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January 10, 2025 35 mins

National Correspondent RORY O’NEILL is covering the wildfires in Southern California and will have the latesest as well as the latest on Donald Trump’s bid delay his sentencing in the New York hush money case.

Free speech and national security are on a collision course as the Supreme Court hears arguments over the fate of TikTok, a phenomenon that roughly half the U.S. population uses for entertainment and information. White House Correspondent – and attorney – JON DECKER will be in the Supreme Court chambers as the Justices hear the case.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
Three starting your morning off right. A new way of talk,
a new way of understanding because we're in this together.
This is your Morning Show with Michael del Choino.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Thank you, Mike McCann. Seven minutes after the hour. On
this Friday, January the tenth, the fires in Los Angeles
have now spread to twenty nine thousand acres. The death
toll has risen to ten. The National Guard is being
deployed to cross Los Angeles to stop looting in neighborhoods
ravaged by fires. Meanwhile, a powerful winter storm hitting the

(00:53):
South and the Midwest, and the future of TikTok is
at stake, and before the United States Supreme Court, We're
going to have more on that next half hour with
John Decker. First things first, before we get to the
Trump sentencing, which is coming up later this morning, Rory,
let's start with the fires. Boy, there was the fires

(01:15):
themselves and the attempts to contain them, and then there
was the firestorm towards leadership. The narratives yesterday were as
out of control as the fires themselves. It was something
extraordinary brewing in southern California yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, not a lot of good news to update you
with this morning. As you said, containment of these fires
remains negligible at best. They did get the helicopters and
airplanes up in the skies again to start spreading water
on some of these fires. I guess the only good
news is that the winds continue to subside, So I
think they were hoping for a lot more progress yesterday

(01:53):
than they were able to make. Hopefully at an update
this morning later this morning, we'll get a better idea
as to just how successful they've been in trying to
stop the spread of these fires. But they've also been
distracted by looters and by arsonists allegedly caught setting new fires.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Makes you wonder what started the original, doesn't it?

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Absolutely, they haven't said, yeah, no determination there yet.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
All right, Speaking of narratives, and I don't want to
make this like talk radio, but you know, one of
the consistent narratives is this is Donald Trump's Supreme Court
well h yesterday and the sentencing will take place today.
But Marshaan has already indicated there won't be any jail time.
Do we know that for sure? We won't know till
we know, right.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yeah, he was a little bit vague, but essentially suggested
that he would have what they called an unconditional discharge.
This is allowed under New York law. That essentially says, well,
complete the case and there are no conditions on your release.
There may be a fine in the works. It could
be up to one hundred and seventy thousand dollars. That's
five thousand per thirty four, So that's a possibility, but

(03:02):
don't expect probation because then you'd have to report to
a probation officer or something. So it looks like they're
just going to go through with the procedure, which though
they also need to go through. I mean, I know
Donald Trump was trying to fight this sentencing hearing, but
you actually can't appeal it until the sentencing is done.
So what the Supreme Court ruled yesterday was only that

(03:23):
the sentencing hearing can move forward. They didn't rule on
the merits of the case, but just said that, look,
by all proper legal means, this case should be allowed
to proceed.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Or I'll be back next half hour. Appreciate it, Rory,
if you're just waking out.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
He's got to the sounds he.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Said at the end of that sentence.

Speaker 6 (03:42):
I don't think he knows what he said either.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
It's got to be a big bitch understanding. I'm going in.

Speaker 7 (03:49):
I'm going in.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
It's like love your garbage truck. Probably doesn't serve me
well in talk radio, but there is something. I had
a lot of bad qualities. Don't get me wrong. I'm
filled with bad qualities. One of my good qualities always
was And it's just it's a natural instinct I have.
I don't when I'm done with somebody, I'm done. I

(04:11):
don't seek to get revenge. In fact, I never even
think of them again. It's as if they never existed.
It's a very Sicilian trait. But I will tell you
that when I don't have anything good to say, I
tend to say nothing at all. When Jimmy Carter, when
his remains arrived at the rotunda at the Capitol, that ceremony,

(04:34):
I had a lot to say about. I thought Senator
Thune's comments were powerful. I thought the speaker's comments were powerful.
I thought even Kamala Harris did a nice remembrance. And
the music was moving, the visuals were moving. None of
that happened yesterday. Jimmy Carter's grandson, pardon Me, stole the show.

(05:02):
He was great, And in terms of sounds of the day,
I play only that one sound for that reason, if
you want me to cut to the chase. I thought
it was extremely moving the friendship that formed between President

(05:26):
Gerald R. Ford and Jimmy Carter, and that they, as friends,
made a pact to eulogize each other at their funerals. Now,
obviously somebody's going to die first, and because gerald Ford
felt pretty strongly it would be him, he had assigned
Stephen to read a letter he prepared. And then Stephen

(05:50):
reveals that letter for the first time in the service.
That was great, and he talks about I can imagine
my father sitting with his yellow p out of paper
and he just starts writing, and then he shared some
of the things that his father will.

Speaker 8 (06:05):
It has said that President Adams's last words were Thomas
Jefferson still survives now, since Jimmy has a good decade
on me, I'm hedging my bets by entrusting my remembrances
of Jimmy to my son.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Steve, who did a terrific job yesterday. Jason Carter, the
grandson of President Carter, app in my mind, completely stole
the show. This is just a twenty two second clip.
But he found the profoundness in tone and the humor
in tone better than anyone.

Speaker 9 (06:42):
Yes, they spent four years in the Governor's mansion and
four years at the White House, but.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
The other ninety two years.

Speaker 9 (06:52):
They spent at home in Plains, Georgia. And one of
the best ways to demonstrate that there are regular folks
is to take them by that home. First of all,
it looks like they might have built it themselves.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
The actual eulogy was done by President Joe Biden. It
was again I'm supprised my instincts say say nothing at all.
It was very weak, very poorly written, and delivered in anger,
and there were certainly moments where he made a political

(07:28):
football out of a former president's casket looking at Donald Trump.
It was awful. I despise the song. Imagine and if
Jimmy's Carter's life boils down to humility and worship of

(07:48):
God and busy about doing his father's business, which is
loving his Lord, thy God with all his heart, all
his soul, all his mind, and loving others as himself.
How could imagine have been his favorite song? I don't know.
Oh but the Garth rendition. I didn't get the funeral
h I'll stick to the grandson and Stephen Ford. Those
are the two good moments. As for Los Angeles, what

(08:09):
a mess? And when the mayor finally returned and was
asked the most important question, do you have any explanation
for the lack of preparedness and execution of your government
in this crisis? Here was her answer.

Speaker 10 (08:27):
We will absolutely do an evaluation to look at what worked,
what didn't work, and to correct or to hold accountable
any body, department, individual, etc. But my focus right now
is on the lives and on the homes.

Speaker 7 (08:45):
Do you think your leadership was effective while responding to
this disaster?

Speaker 10 (08:49):
I just said what I believe is the most important
thing for us to do right now, and that is
going to continue to be my focus.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
That should have been your focus before it happened. These
are regular occurrences. There ought to be plans. Do you
remember in our New Year's Eve address, I did a big,
oldlong section on how prepared people respond to the unexpected,

(09:20):
and this is expected compared to unprepared. I shared that
reporter's frustration. I suspect the citizens of Los Angeles do,
and I think before she evaluates what worked and what didn't,
the voters will, I guarantee you her days are numbered.
And I guarantee you Democrats are probably wondering if they're

(09:41):
going to lose this state and the same amount of
acres that they've lost to fire, all hands on that.

Speaker 10 (09:53):
That is the way we speak, and that is the
way we stand here united Los Angeles will stand united
and stand strong.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
So first of all, all right, so there's your meme. Right,
this is what they do. They sell a government dependency
and a victim mentality. We don't solve problems, we don't
prepare ahead of time for problems. We crisis manage and
we're all in this together and we stand strong. Well,

(10:24):
that's how they normally play, but that isn't how even
their voters were feeling yesterday. Where are the cops? Why
are we citizens directing traffic. Why are we chasing down arsonists?
Where's the National Guard with all these looters? Where's the
planes in the air to put this fire out? Why

(10:45):
is there no water in these beautifully painted fire hydrants?
But she goes on.

Speaker 10 (10:52):
My thoughts are with the thousands of Angelinos who are
impacted by this emergency. As more Angelinos were forced to
make a terrifying decision to evacuate. Our priorities, of course,
are to keep Angelino safe and to protect homes. The
winds continued to be of a historic.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Nature and blame number one historic winds. This just did
Santa Anna. Winds can get strang California can have lack
of rain. That's breaking news. What next?

Speaker 5 (11:30):
Global warming a key factor of this firestorm.

Speaker 10 (11:33):
For much of Tuesday, the unprecedented winds prevented air operations
to continue.

Speaker 5 (11:39):
However, as of yesterday, the winds.

Speaker 10 (11:42):
Have allowed for air operations and that has enabled significant
progress against the fires in Hollywood and Studio City.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Last night, we're at twenty nine thousand acres five individual fires.
Death toll is at ten, no fires in containment. Back
from Africa, the Mirror says that significant progress.

Speaker 10 (12:03):
And as of seven point thirty this morning. Evacuation orders
in Hollywood have been lifted. Angelino's cooperated. The communities stood together,
they evacuated and Angelinos should continue to.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
Proceed with caution.

Speaker 10 (12:19):
Air operations are continuing rapidly in the Palisades, in Silmar
and across our region. We continue to see our heroes
from our LA firefighters and from personnel families, neighbors.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Those that remain. After seventeen million dollars a budget cutterers.

Speaker 10 (12:35):
From across the county and the state, we thank you. However,
we continue to confront a big, one level firestorm. Historic
winds and extensive drought have created a perfect storm that
has driven people from their homes and have taken people's homes,
and that has taken people's lives. I've been in the

(12:57):
fire zones and you can see how fast and devastating
these wind driven fires are. I know people from all
over the nation are asking how they can help.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
So here are two essential ways.

Speaker 10 (13:11):
First of all, support the California Community Foundation Wildlife Recovery
Fund at cowfun dot org. And support the Los Angeles
Fire Department Foundation at support LAFD dot org.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
They're looking for leadership, They're looking for answers, and that's
what they got when they were given this specific question
of why don't the fire hydrants have wake.

Speaker 10 (13:47):
Go right over here in the front.

Speaker 11 (13:50):
Yeah, Josh Haskell, ABC seven, I went to snooze mayor baths.
I've been on the fire lines the last two days.
I've never seen firefighters this desperate at fire hydrants, water
not coming out, the pressure solo, the number one tool
that they use to fight these fires, not there.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
How frustrated are you about that?

Speaker 11 (14:08):
And also I'm getting texts right now from the Palisades
Highlands community were almost forty eight hours after this fire started.
There's not resources up there. The hydrants aren't working. Where's
the National Guard? Where are miles and miles of water tenders?

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Where's the circus music? Adam Carolla summed it up this way.

Speaker 12 (14:25):
The people who live in Malibu, who live in Santa Monica,
who live in the Palisades, those are some of the
most progressive blue voters.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
In the world or in the United States.

Speaker 12 (14:38):
They are a bastion of blue. These they're all sitting
around crying about Karen Bass water pressure. How come the
forest wasn't cleared of all the brush? What's happening with
the infrastructure. You guys all voted for Karen Bass, the
mayor of Los Angeles, who all voted for Gavin Usom

(14:58):
and now.

Speaker 5 (14:59):
You get what you get.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
You do sense and it's sorry it came to lives
and this much property. But there's more than just flames
in the air. There's change in the air in California
and the lack of answers, they're just not acceptable. It's
a circus, nero fiddled. I don't even know what to

(15:26):
call this.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
This is your Morning Show with Michael Deltona.

Speaker 6 (15:32):
There was a segment where they showed gruesome newsom bragging
about taking out four dams and weirs that stopped lamf
for eels from multiplying. Because the lam for eels are
worthless and they should not be in the rivers, but
they are because they come from the ocean, and we
had them in the Great Lakes and they're kept trying
to kill them and neutralize them. But they took out
four dams. The water's going directly to the ocean.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
That's one of their problems.

Speaker 6 (15:56):
Besides, the idiots run in the state, have a good day, and.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Here we are.

Speaker 13 (16:00):
It's just remarkable to see the culmination of all that
hard work, that commitment across time and setbacks, and so
for me, it's you know, it's just a it's a
check in progress report. And I wanted to be here
before us all done, made particular reason one and Hollers.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
I just we're talking.

Speaker 13 (16:19):
We wanted to get up here before it was actually.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah, there he is just bragging about his dams being removed.

Speaker 14 (16:25):
One other caller, real quick, Several posts occurred on x
about some massive police convoy going into LA away from
the fires. Has anyone uncovered the source that they're for that.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, We're going to keep digging. But one of the
things being floated is they're escorting Harrison Ford. They can't
be it, right, This circus can't lead to that, but
it looked like some kind of an escort of a
VIP and it's definitely the visual of a large convoy.
What next from Los Angeles? Break for your local news

(17:01):
and your morning show will continue right after that. Stay
with us.

Speaker 13 (17:04):
This is Shannon Gregory and my morning show is your
morning show with Michael door Jono.

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I'm a land No MoU in Smyrna, Tennessee, and my
morning show is your Morning Show with Michael Dale Journal.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Hey it's me Michael. Your morning show can be heard
live five to eight am Central, six to nine Eastern
and great cities like Jackson, Mississippi, Akron, Ohio, or Columbus, Georgia.
We'd love to be a part of your morning routine
and we're grateful you're here. Now, enjoy the podcast, right, yeah,
the guys here. Thirty five minutes after the hour. Meme. Actually,

(17:45):
headline of the week comes from the Babylon b big
picture of Mark Zuckerberg, guy who said Facebook was not
suppressing free speech, announces Facebook will stop suppressing free Speechly
they left shocking in life is the truth? Boy, It's
been that kind of week. Right, thirty six minutes now

(18:06):
after the hour in the East Coast, you got about
twenty four minutes to be to work on time. The
death toll in the LA fires is up to ten,
the acreage is twenty nine thousand, five different fires, all uncontained,
and now the National Guard being deployed across Los Angeles
to stop looting in the neighborhoods ravaged by fires. There
was a large convoy of police driving away from Los Angeles.

(18:32):
We still don't know the mystery of who was being transported. Meanwhile,
the powerful winter storm is intensifying across the South and
the Midwest, expecting heavy snow, ice and rain, and not
the least. I think. The younger you are listening right now,
perhaps the more interested you'll be in this. But the
fate of TikTok is in the hands of the Supreme
Court and freedom of speech with it. John Decker is

(18:54):
joining us. He's not only our White House correspondent, he's
also a Supreme Court bar attorney, which will be very
handy today. What is the Supreme Court looking at and
how does this case seem to be heading.

Speaker 15 (19:07):
Well, this is a case that pits national security concerns
versus First Amendment rights. It's as simple as that. There
was a law that was passed last year, bipartisan fashion
signed by President Biden, and it dictates that TikTok must
sell itself by January the nineteenth, just a few days
from now, or it will essentially be banned in the US.

(19:30):
TikTok sue. They've lost it every lower level court. Now
it's up to the Supreme Court, and that's their last
hope in terms of surviving as a company. Is the
Supreme Court. They will hear two hours of oral arguments today.
I'll be in the Supreme Court for that, and then
they must turn around and opinion very quickly because of
that January, the nineteenth deadline.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Yeah, there's not much time now. TikTok has a say
in the matter, and of course if they don't sell,
then the ban would go in effect. You go to
these hearings all the time, and you know, you can
tell a lot by the questions the justices asked, what
were you going to be listening for specifically?

Speaker 15 (20:08):
Well, that's right, I can tell a lot by the question.
Doesn't necessarily mean every time I get it right, but
you did get a good feel about how justices feel
about a certain matter that they're hearing. And this is
certainly one of those cases. You know, it's very similar, Michael,
to the Pentagon Papers case that came before the Supreme
Court that too pitted national security concerns versus First Amendment rights,

(20:34):
and First Amendment rights won out in that case before
the Supreme Court in the nineteen seventies. We'll see if
that same thing holds true for this particular case.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Closing moments with John Decker, our White House correspondent. You
and I were texting back and forth when the carriage
that carried the remains of Abraham Lincoln and John F.
Kennedy brought Jimmy Carter the rotunda. I thought Senator Thun,
the speakers, even Vice President Harris's, and the choir, the
naval choir. That whole ceremony was so powerful, so moving.

(21:08):
And then the actual national funeral yesterday. You noticed I
didn't text a lot because I didn't get a lot
I thought. I thought the Stephen Ford was spectacular, that
the friendship between two former presidents there was, and the
story of how they were flying back over the Atlantic
Ocean and began that friendship. And then they vowed to
do each other's eulogy. Of course only one coach fulfill it.

(21:31):
That was great. And then the son delivers the eulogy
that the former president Gerald Ford had written from That
was great. I thought the grandson stole the show and
I didn't get imagined. But other than that, the sendoff
of Jimmy Carter and now he's back where he will
lie in peace next to his wife in Plaines, Georgia.
But your take on yesterday's ceremony, yeah, similar.

Speaker 15 (21:55):
Take as yours in terms of the eulogies that we heard.
You know, and you know Jimmy Carter who chooses the
people that deliver his eulogies. And that's the reason why
we heard from Steve Ford, we heard from Ted Mondale,
who were speaking on behalf of their fathers. And that
was a very interesting aspect of the ceremony that took
place at the National Cathedral yesterday.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Oh and I'll just end with this, Walter Mondale's son
the resemblance to his father's tonning at every aspect. John Decker, Boy,
we had a lot to report this week, glad I
had you a little bit to do it with it.
All right, keep an eye on the Supreme Court and
we'll probably know a lot more on Monday when we talk.
All right, if you're just waking up, these are your
top fine stories of the day. Where to begin? Where

(22:43):
to begin? Oscar nominations, the rams that playoff game has
been moved from so far to Phoenix. The Oscar nominations
are being pushed back because of the California wildfires. Let's

(23:03):
start there with Michael Castner.

Speaker 16 (23:05):
The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences said Wednesday,
it was extending the voting period for this year's Oscars
out of consideration for the many voters who were being
impacted by the Los Angeles area wildfires.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
It said it was.

Speaker 16 (23:19):
Also pushing back the Oscars nominations announcement from Friday the
seventeenth to Sunday the nineteenth. Nearly two thirds of the
Academy voters live in and around the Los Angeles area,
where about one hundred thousand people have had to evacuate
because of the wildfires in Los Angeles. I'm Michael Castner.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
As for the Rams, their evacuation leads to the desert.
Matt Mattinson has more.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
Co league announced Thursday that the game will be played
at State Farm Stadium, home of the Arizona Cardinals. Rams
head coach Sean McVay said at Oppressor that some members
of the team's staff had their homes impacted by the fires.
This isn't the first time an NFL game was moved
to Arizona due to California wildfires. In two thousand and three,
the Miami Offins played the San Diego Chargers at Sun

(24:02):
Devil Stadium in Tempe, as the Chargers stadium was being
used as an evacuation site in Phoenix. I'm at Mattinson.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
As often as the case with these fires, we never
focus on the cause. Where did it start? How did
it start? Did citizens chasing down an arsonist yesterday maybe
give us a clue to the San Fernando Valley we
go in the community of Woodland Hills, Mark Mayfield reports.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
Eyewitnesses told Kofire News that the man was apprehended after
being chased by a group of neighbors in a residential
area near Topanga Canyon Boulevard, not far from Mulholland Heights.
The suspect was cornered in the front yard of a
house on Glendos Street while riding a motorbike and carrying
a lit torch. The three residents who tackled the man
then held him until Los Angeles Police officers arrived. A

(24:47):
detective with the LAPD told KFI they are not prepared
to make a statement about the arrest at this time.
Police say he may be responsible for setting the Kenneth
fire on Thursday afternoon as well. I'm Mark Mayfield.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
When I was young, they saying you're looking smarter than
k Hever. JC Penny, now a merger with a company
that owns several other once bankrupt clothing stores like Forever
twenty one. Brian Shook reports on the latest merger.

Speaker 17 (25:10):
They will form a new company that could hold significant
control over the future of malls in the US. The
century old department store chain filed for bankruptcy in twenty
twenty and was later bought by Simon Mals. The new company,
JC Pennywill Anchor is called Catalyst Brands, combining with other
brands that have faced trouble, including Brooks Brothers, Aeropostle, Lucky Brand,

(25:33):
and Eddie Bauer. I'm Brian Shook.

Speaker 15 (25:36):
Well.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Donald Trump didn't have a good day before the Supreme
Court yesterday, but the current president, Joe Biden did have
a good day, with a federal judge blocking the Biden
administration's attempt to add gender identity into the rules regarding
sex discrimination in schools and Title nine. Lisa Taylor has
to tail.

Speaker 18 (25:51):
It's a victory for groups that have been fighting for
the protection of girls in locker rooms and restrooms. Trying
to include gender identity turns the idea of Title nine
on its head. Sherry Sylvester with the Texas Public Policy
Foundation says that this ruling out of Kentucky will have
a nationwide impact. It follows a previous decision from the

(26:11):
US Supreme Court, which rejected an emergency request from the
Biden administration to protect transgender students from discrimination. I'mle Se Taylor.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Gech four Notre Dame twenty seven to twenty four, beating
Penn State last night in the Orange Bowl. They'll be
in the National Championship. Who will they play? We'll find
out tonight the Cotton Bowl semi final Ohio State and
Texas for the National Football League. And it's not as
easy to know where all the games are anymore. Lions
and Chiefs, bows number one Seeds get a buye. So

(26:41):
Saturday we started three point thirty Central, Chargers and Texans
on CBS. Then the seven o'clock game at night. What
a division rivalry Steelers in Baltimore to take on the Ravens.
That's on Amazon Prime. Three game Sunday CBS at noon, Central,
Broncos and Bills Fox at three thirty, Packers at day,
Eagles NBC six point thirty at night. Probably the one

(27:05):
away dog I think is the most of a shoe
in Commanders, but you never know. Baker Mayfields had a
great year, but Commanders come to Tampa to take on
the Buccaneers, and Monday Night Football on ESPN at seven
pm will be the Minnesota Vikings and the Los Angeles Rams.
That game has been moved to Phoenix. Pistons lost, Caves
won by six over the Raptors, MAVs over the Blazers,

(27:28):
grizz lost to the Rockets, Suns won over the Hawks,
and the Lakers game of course postponed. Kraken lost six
to two on the ice to the Blue Jackets. Stars
beat the Flyers four to one, Lightning one four to
one over the Bruins, and the Blues shot down the
Ducks six to two. Birthdays Today, The Great Rod Stewart
eighty years old, Steely Dan's Donald Fagan seventy seven, The

(27:49):
Champ George Foreman seventy six. And I learned how to
growl inspired by Pat Benattar.

Speaker 8 (27:56):
Right.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
She was singing love is a battlefield, battlefield, and that's
when I first went, Wow, yeah, so it looks like
a cat, didn't she? I Scot little teeny tiny Pat
Bennettar with the big opera and rock and roll voice,
seventy two years old. Good Things come in small packages. Hey,
if it's your birthday, Happy birthday. We're so glad you

(28:19):
were born, and thanks for making your morning show a
part of your big day.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
This is your morning Show with Michael del Chrona.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
We're all waiting for the Great snow Bageddon or whatever
we're supposed to be bracing ourselves for. I have nodules
in my lungs larger than the trace amount of snow
outside my studio door. I got nothing, Red, you got anything,
I got nothing. I got nothing over here downtown Nashville.
I mean I could maybe spell my name and you'd
read it, but I mean I don't even think you

(28:48):
could measure it in a centimeter. Yeah, so so much
for that fire they did get And it continues to
be at five in all now and the death toll
has risen ten. It now covers twenty nine thousand acres.
The footage, I mean, some of the photography and snapshots,

(29:12):
I mean it boggles the mind. But the numbers, the
numbers really do. Roy O'Neil is joining us right now.
Roy I just to put into perspective. And this is
when it was at twenty seven thousand acres. Now it's
at twenty nine thousand acres zero in containment. That's forty
two square miles, an area the size of six miles

(29:36):
by seven miles. The enormity of this, it's ten percent
of the entire area of Los Angeles, which is four
hundred and two square miles. It's twenty thousand football fields,
two thousand structures destroyed and counting ten now counted dead,
one hundred and thirty thousand under evacuation. I mean this,

(29:58):
I think at this point this is bigger than ninety three.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
Right, it looks to be, clearly, and when you add
up the locations in terms of the value of the
real estate, then it certainly would be. But this, if
this had a name, this is going to go down
in the books like Katrina, like Andrew, like Superstorm Sandy,
the kind of event that is a milestone event when

(30:23):
it comes to disasters. And thankfully the winds are continuing
to improve, but really they've only got about a forty
eight hour window to really get the upper hand on things,
because the winds are going to start returning late Sunday.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
They have not only not contained the fire, they haven't
been able to contain the narrative either, And that really
was a firestorm yesterday as well as citizens just trying
to figure out why are we out directing traffic, why
why are these hydrants dry? Why is this neighborhood burning
down if we don't see any fire trucks. And then
in the final finally they had the news conference with

(30:58):
Mayor bas she comes out with all this what we
do always, you know, we're in this together and unity
and this and that, and people were wanting real answers
and they weren't getting them. How do you see that
playing out as well? Yeah, there's a.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Lot of anger, and for a good reason, and you know,
it's one of those stages of grief kind of things.
But because I think people also don't see hope at
the moment, and I think that's feeding a lot of
it because it doesn't seem to be a path out
of this. That's not as if some giant rainstorm is
about to come. This is going to be a long,
slow battle against these fires that I don't think is

(31:34):
going to be ending anytime soon.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Well, because you get a sense of what's the plan,
just let it burn out? And then yesterday so we
finally the winds die down, they can get they can
fight from the air, and then and a plane gets
knocked down by a drone. They had the evacuation warning
system that they were telling everybody keep your eye on,
keep your ear out for and then they missend it
to you know, millions of people that they didn't mean to.

(31:59):
Then they have to send an the other one to
tell them disregard the previous one. I mean, it was.
There has got to be I would think a level
of mistrust now with the voters and their leaders. And
there's a management issue of this crisis as much as
there is the crisis itself, all right, So what give
us some hope? What are some things we can expect

(32:20):
to see some progress with?

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Well, I'm interesting to see on the update this morning,
if they did get a better handle on things, what
operations they could do in the dark of night, which
obviously is a bit more limited, but to see how
much further they could make some progress. We know that
when this all started to unfold, what Tuesday, Wednesday, I
don't know what date it is anymore, it was the

(32:44):
focus was on saving people, which seems they were have
been largely successful in getting people evacuated. You know, bulldozing
roads that were jaying with cars, that kind of a thing,
and the focus has more recently turned to saving buildings,
and you know, and as we hear more and more celebrities,
you know, they get more attention because people know them,
and we start to see that you know, oh, look,

(33:04):
even the Malibu dream house that belonged to Paris Hilton
is burned to the ground. You know, I think the
rest of the nation starts to ask the same questions
as well, that how does this happen? In twenty twenty five?

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Probably, if I had to pick one of the I mean,
the news conference with Mehrbas that was a disaster. But
if I had to pick one thing, it was that
it was citizens that had to chase down somebody who
was trying to set more fires in a neighborhood and
then hold them until police arrived. And that brings questions

(33:37):
of you know what starts it all together? And then
there's you know, like we always talk about Rory, there's
the two worlds, right, the one of legacy media covering
something and then where most of the people are, which
is on the internet really discussing these things. Like this morning,
one of the big topics is what is this caravan?
You know, convoy of police that we're seeing exiting Loss Angelus.

(34:00):
There's even a rumor that they were escorting Harrison Ford.
That can't be it, But well, have you heard anything
about that?

Speaker 15 (34:09):
No?

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Yeah, that word Yeah, So, I mean we're gonna have
to follow that one. But the arsonists. This guy's got
a blow torch. He's trying to start fires in new
neighborhood and makes you wonder the origin of the fire
to begin with, it's just been it's horrific to watch
the loss of life, the loss of property, but the
loss of trust, I think is the story that follows.
Perhaps I don't know, I don't know what else to

(34:31):
make of it. Yeah, you know, but we're hearing that.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
You know, individually, everyone is so appreciative of the sacrifices
these firefighters are making. I mean, you can't you know,
it's not on them, right, And then the size and
scale of the force you've got city, county, state, Now
more states are sending people in from Oregon and Nevada
and Arizona. So the manpower is getting.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
There all right. Coming up on the weekend show, Oh gosh,
we'll do all that.

Speaker 3 (34:59):
Also talk about that bird flu death and have you
have all of your friends been telling you about that
stomach bug that's got them driving the porcelain bus. We're
gonna update that neurovirus outbreak and then the big problems
with the upcoming crisis of an elevator repair shortage.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
And I am thoroughly convinced there's a little bit of
neurovirus mixed with some flu viruses, with some RSV. It's
all intermingling and going around. I think I managed to
get all of them. I'm blank on the name of
the show again. Ah, The Weekend Dive. The Weekend Dive
with Rory O'Neil. Find it on your iHeartRadio. We have
great reporting. We'll talk again next week Rory when we
come back. It's Friday forty five, joins us. If he

(35:41):
makes me laugh too hard, I might lose consciousness. It's
next after your local news.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
We're all in this together. This is your morning show
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