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Good morning, Welcome to Friday. You know, we used to
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Jeffrey and I both had the great pleasure of working
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late late after Monson. Yeah, it was awful because Los
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That's why I don't leave my Williamson County. Usually they're
used to parking on the roads. I'm gonna be like
the the the older people in the old days, they
would pack a sack lunch to go into the city,
you know, like we may not we may not survive.
But yeah, we're really excited about this weekend. And I
hope your team won. We had opening day of baseball.
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Let me start with that. I think, you know, I'm
not supposed to play favorites like with kids, but I
have some favor cities and the euro Morning Show family.
I think for Cleveland, you better get excited because I
think the Guardians are for real. Now. My Yankees won,
but I think we're gonna claw our way to the
middle of the division if we're lucky. I don't know,
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I might be surprised. Maybe the one year I think
there's nothing. There'll be something, but you know, I'm eyebaling things.
I think the Guardians look pretty good for getting to
the World Series this year, as do the Dodgers, who
barely beat Detroit last night. I thought that the Tigers
were going to come back, but so it was hurt
Tiger's loss, but everybody else. I think run the Cards
beat the Twins five to three, Guardians won seven to four,
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of the Royals, Diamondbacks loss. You Cubs beat your ten
to six, and the Nats lost to the Phillies seven
to three. The Padres won the Giants one. I think
for your morning show, Cities, we had a very good
opening day of baseball. The All SEC Nightmare Final four
scenario is still alive and well, and at some point
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I got to look at the eye and say, it's
not just alive and well, it's leaning likely. Don't worry
about All Miss. But I don't I know Michigan State.
You know, I had such high hopes for Michigan State,
and you know I haven't been playing that outstanding. Here
comes o a Miss. That just that's that team that
nobody forgot to tell them you're not supposed to win,
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and they just start hitting the trees. Yeah, so I'll
hold my breath for Sparty tonight. Uh. Tennessee and Kentucky
ought to be a great game. Let me tell you
some Kentucky might beat Tennessee. No listen, I'm a Kentucky fan,
but I'm telling you Tennessee could could get into the
mouth of Jaws and find of grab victory out of
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its mouth, so that that'll be close. But the presumption
is whoever wins is an SEC team going to the
Elite eid Michigan and Auburn ought to be a dandy
to the victor, Gallian Tail to the Victor, and then
Purdue in Houston. So I'm looking at my bracket, the
great Seer of c years and four teams that have
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advanced to the lead eight. It'll be Florida a one
seed versus Texas Tech a three seed, just as I
have it in my bracket. And then it'll be Number
one versus Number two Duke versus Alabama. Boy, the way
Alabama pulled away in the second half, you know, could
they give Duke a ride? Time will tell. But all
four that advanced I had, so my Elite eight is
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on the road to being perfect now tonight. These are
going to be some interesting matchups. I mean, the seeding
would suggest Auburn will advance. That puts three in place
for an all SEC Final four. But here's the bottom line.
The storyline is SEC had its night last night and
it was pretty impressive. They do that tonight, you better
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gear up for potentially I Hate Tournament part two. Yeah,
that would be I think that would be so bad
for basketball. But I think everybody's underestimated the Big Ten.
I look for Michigan and Michigan State to show up
tonight and play very well. But it is the turn.
As the Sweet Sixteen marches towards the Elite Eight, we
actually led with sports we've never done. I'm looking at it.
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to talk about the King of Late Night. I mean,
everything you think you know about Johnny, it's all in
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It was in the story at the making of the book.
It's almost as extraordinary as the man it's covering. So
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of Carson the Magnificent, that's coming up for you next time.
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Just watching some of the footage seven point seven earthquake,
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and the earthquake is just emptying the pool like a waterfall.
The visuals are unbelievable, but I as dramatic as the
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It was it was actually and you know it pains
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of my television with Fox, so I always telling him
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feature last week and we look forward to presenting it
to you this week. It's our Spotlight Interview, You of
the week. If you loved Johnny Carson, you don't want
to miss this interview in fact, as I've said many times,
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the making of this book, there ought to be a
movie about that. It's almost as interesting as the man
it covers. Mike Thomas is the author of the amazing biography.
I've read it. I highly encourage any fan of Johnny
Carson to read it. It's called The King of Late
Night Carson, The Magnificent Mike, Good morning, Hey, how are you.
(18:33):
I'm doing great. I'm a huge obvious Johnny Carson fan.
Oh great, here. I'm also a fan of your work.
You've done bios on Andy Kaufman, Reaches, Philbin, Jay Leno,
Phil Hartman, among others. But this particular project, I don't know.
We almost need a book about the making of the
book because what the prologue is. Yeah, there's like two
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great stories here went into making this book and then the.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Man who lived the life worthy of this book. Yeah, well,
thanks for noticing that. It was kind of an epic
getting into this. It was I, you know, I did
those books that Andy Kaufman, Jay Leno reagis with Bill
Zamy in the Sinatra book. Actually back in the day
when I was like in my twenties, I was his
research assistant, and then I went off and had a
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fifteen year career at the Sun Times and then started
doing books on my own, including Phil Hartman and Second
City Book. And then when this came along, it was
kind of the perfect full circle moment. I mean, you know,
obviously it was horrible that Bill died in twenty twenty three,
but I said, what can I do to honor my
late friend? And it was finishing finished the book. So yeah,
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because you know, anybody.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Can remember that's a function of the mind, but honoring
is a function of the heart. But you know, let's
go through that function with the audience. Explain to them
why this was important to Bill. It starts with an
exclusive interview, right, and then the notes of that and
the audio of that interview, and then a contract to
write a book, book that didn't quite get finished until
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you decided to finish it. So walk them through that
whole extraordinary story. Yeah, So, you know, Bill had been
a Carson fanboy. Really, I think he would describe himself
that way since he was in his early teens in
South Holland, a suburb of Chicago, And you know, he
would watch Johnny in the seventies on his little black
and white television you know, he got it as a
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birthday gift when he was fifteen. He would lock himself
in the room and not just be entertained by Johnny,
but study Johnny how he did what he did, and
he retained that fascination as his writing career started blossoming,
you know, and once he got to Rolling Stone in
the late eighties early nineties, he had enough of a
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profile there to make an ask of Johnny when Johnny
was in his last year of doing the show in
ninety one ninety two, And so I found the letter
that Bill wrote to his editor and then Joan Winner,
the publisher of Rolling Stone, wrote on Bill's behalf to
the Carson camp, asking if Johnny would sit down for
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kind of an exit interview with Bill. He wasn't able
to do that because Johnny was inundated, you know, that
last year. But Bill was able to get backstage, hang out,
talk to people, see Johnny do his thing in and
out of makeup, stuff like that, to write an appreciation
for Rolling Stone. It wouldn't be for another ten years
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after Johnny retired in ninety two that Bill would actually
get a long sit down with Johnny. Luckily, three years
before Johnny's passing.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Luckily three years before Johnny's passing, but Bill had tried.
He had made inroads little by little by little. He
was a very patient guy, played this, played the long game.
He got to know Johnny's assistance, you know, people who
helped him out at his post retirement offices in Santa Monica.
He would pop in every now and then once in
a while, Johnny would be there. And and Bill had
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also been writing a lot about Late Night, about Leno,
about Letterman, about Kimmel, about all these guys were the
Late Night firmament ed McMahon. He wrote a piece about sidekicks.
So he was very plugged into that world. And I'm
sure Johnny noticed that, and he finally got a chance
to interview him in two thousand and two over a
long lunch in Santa Monica.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
So that was the story of Bill's journey to Johnny.
That's amazing. I remember growing up, and I grew up
in Arlington Heights, a suburb of Chicago, and we would
watch two things I remember from my childhood. One sitting
at McDonald's that was connected to the Burger The Burger
Kings shared a parking lot with McDonald's. McDonald's would be packed,
and we would sit there and eat. I'd look at
my father and I'd point to the one guy eating
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at Burger King and going, who eats at Burger King?
And you'd had that same feeling watching the Tonight Show? Right,
Who's watching Dick Cavott? You know? I mean, Johnny was
bigger than life. He is still the greatest. He is
still the king of talk even after his death. That's funny.
Dick Cavot was Burger King, Yeah, he was Burger King.
Carson the Magnificent is the book started by Bill's Amy
and then now being finished by Mike Thomas and just
(22:56):
in time. And by the way, I'm so distracted you
got the Tonight Show curtain behind you. But oh yeah,
I figured, you know, why not Johnny? You know, in
the making of this interview, in the making of this
book and the book that you would finish for your
mentor so many things from fame to divorce, to the
death of his son to being perceived as a private person.
(23:18):
I would think one of the biggest things is Johnny
would never take the bait and do what all the
late night host show hosts are doing now and being political.
I mean, there are so many Where do you begin
to tell the story of the magnificence of Johnny Carson.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, you know, Johnny was occasionally political, but it was always,
you know, whatever was funny. It was never really a
partisan thing. And it was a lot gentler too.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Back in the day.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Johnny always wanted to retain the widest possible audience, and
he did, you know, because part of Carson too, and
I think this is why people still have an emotional
connection to him to this day, is that he put
you to sleep at night. He didn't get you all
wound up. It was this like almost of a new tomorrow.
You know, Johnny's there. He's the last image flickering on
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your brain, and that makes such a positive imprint that
lasts for decades and decades. I'm sorry I got off
the the.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Main idea you were asking, Well, I mean, just where
do you begin to tell his story? I mean, get
for all of us that are fans, I get the
PDF of it, so I've already got to read it.
But I'm trying to let you tell the story. I
want them to know. If you love Johnny Carson, this
is a unique view of Johnny Carson. You're going to
see some things you've never seen before, and then there
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are some things you know about him that get more
in depth. It's yeah, it was quite a man.
Speaker 10 (24:38):
It was.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It was a life of triumphant tragedy. It was.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
He's a complicated guy, like any good you know, biography.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Figure is.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
He had been written about before, but a lot of
what had been written was you.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Know, unfair, a raw deal.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Well, I don't know if yeah, it was, it was
you know, the mean Johnny, the cruel journey the I
I'd like to think this is a much more nuanced
portrait written by a person and building most of the
writing in this who was a true fan who truly
appreciated Carson's art form and it was an art form.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
So you get a lot of that in the book.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
You get a lot of bills, you know, sort of
picking apart Johnny's you know, monologues and everything else, you know,
talking about how he did what he did. But there's
also the more emotional Johnny and the softer side of
Johnny that I had never seen before, especially after his
son dies in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
When they came up in the final episode, because he
featured him those and all the Comeback Guard.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
He did feature his son in the final episode, but
also before that, when he came back, he did a
five and a half minute eulogy for his son on
the air. And he never saw Johnny emotional like that
on the air, wearing his heart on his sleeve, and
he did that one time.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
And there's various other scenes about.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
When his son died that make you realized, Okay, this
wasn't just a cold, robotic person.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I mean, he was a guy who had a depth
of emotion. Yeah. By the way, Mike Thomas is the
co author. He's finishing the job of his mentor and friend,
Bill's Amy and Carson the Magnificent. I encourage you to
get the book everywhere great books are sold. You know this.
I remember as a child watching it, and I remember
Johnny's mother and father were in the audience, and you
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could see the awkwardness in Johnny discussing his mother. That's
something that comes out in your in Bill's interviews and
in this book. If there is a cold side of
Johnny Carson, it's kind of what he got from mom
and never was able to shake. I hate when people
blame their parents for things At some point at sixty
(26:45):
years old. It's on you.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
But I don't think Johnny ever really recovered from the
cold upbringing Diddy.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
No, I don't think he did.
Speaker 8 (26:52):
She.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I mean, even at the highest point of his fame,
she acted unimpressed with what's happened.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
To remember the Jimmy pearsall store. Are you proud of me?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
You're proud of me?
Speaker 11 (27:02):
Yet it's I'm just the thing and talk. I don't
know if that's just her way, because she did. Ultimately,
she saved the whole scrap book of his clips from
when he was coming up that they found in his
closet at some point, So obviously she was proud of him.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
She just couldn't fully express it.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Who know who knew if that was from her upbringing
or if it was a Nebraska thing. They were very
reserved Midwest people. They didn't wear their hearts on their sleeve,
you know, So it was not a warm and fuzzy household.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Johnny often joked about divorces on the show, but that
was a big part of the disappointment of his life.
I don't think that he took any of those divorces lightly.
I think the first your your opinion would be hurt
the most.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, I think so too, you know, and it just
but you know, his behavior would bry them apart. He was,
you know, stepping out, he was drinking, he was you know,
so he bore a lot of that that burden. And yeah,
I mean he was married four times. You know, it's
still married to his last way. From what I understand,
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they weren't you know, in great shape at the end.
But you know, Johnny was not in great shape health wise.
But yeah, he he didn't get divorced the fourth time.
I think he told people because he didn't want to
be a four time loser. He just but he had
to get married. There was this I think Sinatra had
the same sort of thing going on where he had
to be with someone and not just a girlfriend. He
needed to be married some you know, it's that mentality.
(28:28):
I have seen this before. Some people just need to
be married to have the thrill of cheating. I don't
know if that's it, but it's something bizarre in that close.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, it was. It was bizarre. Mike Thomas is joining us.
Carson the Magnificent, He really was.
Speaker 10 (28:42):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I was watching the movie about Saturday Night Live and
you think if if Lauren Michaels doesn't take the chance,
if that original cast doesn't pull off the impossible. I mean,
what movies would we have watched in the eighties and nineties,
let alone since then, you know, and beyond, if not
(29:02):
for Sartay Night Live. And then you think of Johnny Carson,
who I don't know if in your research you did it,
but his thesis paper was on comedy and it's brilliant
and no wonder his heroes were Groucho Marx and Jack Benny.
This guy got the science of comedy and he made
comedians on that show. And without those comedians, you don't
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have the sitcoms. Without those comedians, you don't have the movies.
I know, you can make a case without those comedians
and the whole fight for Johnny to hang on to
Saturday Night you don't get or you do get Saturday
Night Live. There are so many webs to this, isn't
there There are tons?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I mean, yeah, you could say that, you know, Johnny
really formed comedy in the seventies, eighties, nineties and beyond
as we know it. And yeah, if not for Johnny
wanting more time off and wanting to pull reruns from
Saturdays and put them on a weekday like there wouldn't
have been a slot for Saturday Night Live, and so
Lauren Michaels would not have been able to exactly revolutionize
(29:57):
comedy as he did, and Lauren revered John. I mean
there's in the New Lorn book which is terrific Carson
has sprinkled all over it. So yeah, they both in
their own ways, formed the final minute.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I think the best part of the story is how
you finish this book for your mentor, I really do.
But beyond that to the story itself, what's the lesson
of Johnny Carson's life? What was the one thing you
took away when you hit the end?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I think Johnny was, you know, a great appreciator of comedy,
a great practitioner of comedy. But he was far better
at comedy than he was at life. And I don't
think that's atypical for a lot of performers. You know,
they pour everything they have into whatever art form it is.
They're the movies, TV, and a lot of other stuff
(30:42):
goes by the wayside.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Sometimes making the right career choices is making all the
wrong life choices, isn't it? Sometimes depends. Maybe that's why
it took me till sixty to get a national show.
Speaker 10 (30:53):
Tell it.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I'll stick with my wife and kids. Congratulations, Carson the
Magnificent get it everywhere books, great books are sold. Mike Thomas,
and good job finishing this for your mentor Bill. It's
a great story. Thanks Michael, I really appreciate it. God
bless you and your curtain behind you. Thank you. I
appreciate it. Thanks author Mike Thomas. You really need to
get the book. He's a great guy. I loved our visit.
(31:14):
That's why it's our Spotlight Interview of the week. This
is your morning show with Michael del Chrono. Your top
five stories of the day, Starting with the FAA is
telling Congress it must do more to ensure flying remains
safe after mid air collision over Washington, d C that
killed sixty seven people. Mark Mayfield fills us in.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
The agency's acting administrator, Chris Rushlo, told a Senate hearing
on Thursday, we have to get smarter about how we
use data.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Something was missed at the DCA crash. I take that seriously.
I take that upon myself.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
Investigators have highlighted eighty five close calls around Reagan Airport
over three years before the crash, but Russlo admits the
alarming trend was missed.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
I'm Mark Mayfield and Trump is appointed Georgia State Senator
Brandon Beach to become his new US Treasurer.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
The sixty three year old Beach was elected in twenty twelve.
As US Treasurer, Beach will oversee the US Mint, the
Bureau of Engraving and Printing, and Fort Knox, while working
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brand and helped us secure a massive and historic victory
for our movement in the great state of Georgia. I'm
(32:26):
me Sa Taylor.
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Well Signal Gauge Mental Gate. Three out of four Americans
think the Trump administration using signal group chat to discuss
military plans that might be a serious problem.
Speaker 9 (32:36):
That includes sixty percent of Republicans, according to a UGOV pole.
That pole was taken after it was revealed this week
that high ranking officials, including Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, national
Security Advisor Mike Waltz, an Intelligence chief Telsea Gabbard, talked
about plans to carry out attacks on Yemen in a
group chat that accidentally included the editor in chief of
the Atlantic who reported on the breach.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
I'm Tammy Trheo. Ariana Grande has released a deluxe edition
of her hit album Eternal Sunshine with six new tracks
on it. Eternal Sunshine debuted at number one on the
Billboard two hundred chart last year, spawned two chart topping singles.
Grunday is also releasing a Brighter Days Ahead short film
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that she co directed to a company. Today's release of
the deluxe addition and in Sports four have advanced to
the Lit eight. The Tide rolled Big One thirteen eighty
eight over BYU Florida pulled away in the second half
eighty seven to seventy one to survive The Scare of Maryland,
Duke survived Arizona one hundred and ninety three, and the
Cinderella came up short. A slipper short Arkansas loses to
(33:41):
Texas Tech eighty five to eighty three. Tonight Ole Miss
Michigan State, Kentucky, and the Tennessee Balls Michigan, Auburn and
Purdue in Houston for those final four spots in NBA Action,
If we could get some sneakers please. The Cavs beat
the Spurs one twenty four one sixteenth thunder up the
grizz one twenty five one oh four, Kings won one
twenty eight one oh seven over the Blazers, and the
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Lakers lost to the Bulls by two one nineteen one
seventeen on the Heisen Hockey Red Wings lost four to
three to the Senators, Blues beat the Preds, Lightning struck
big eight zip over Utah, and the Kings shut out
the Abs or lost to the Abs and got shut
out for nothing. Base of ball, it was a bit
of bit of good to the Cardinals opening day at Bush.
They beat the Twins five to three, Guardians seven to
(34:25):
four over the Royals. NAT's lost seven to three to
the Phillies, Cubs took down the d Backs ten to six,
and the Padres won seven to four over the Braves
and the Giants six to four over the Reds. Birthdays today,
Lady Gaga is thirty nine years old, the Great Reba
McIntyre seventy years old, and actor Vince Vaughn. Favorite Vince
Vaughn movie, Well he was in Rudy People forget that
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wedding crashers pretty high on that list. A couples retreat,
really good four Christmases, maybe the best of them all.
Vince Vaughn is fifty five years old today. We're all
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About you, but no place i'd rather be Rise and shine,
Good morning, Welcome to Friday. You know, we used to
talk about this all the time. When we first started.
Jeffrey and I both had the great pleasure of working
for another company and this one's just like it, only
completely different Radio Prison. So there there was a time
where you know that meant something, Oh it's Friday. Because
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we hated who we worked for, we hated what we did.
The only thing we had was the liking of some
of the people we did it with. But I mean
it was just a miserable existence. And like an idiot,
I stayed there sixteen years. It was sterile. And now,
of course, you know, we work with each other or
a family we worked for, I mean Julie Talbot, I
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mean every now and then, I still think we have
Russia's old boss. How that happens. But I mean, but
we work for the smartest people Chris Berry and do
Maay and have the lowest egos. I mean, it's just
it's such a delight that unfortunately our aggravation. You know
that gre when a pilot tells you, well, now that
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the safest portion of your day is over right now,
the dangerous part getting in your car. You know, it's
just we're thrilled to be here. It's the aggravation of
our life after we get off the air. But you know,
I know what it's like to be in a job
like that. And and so for you, we say, hey,
it's Friday, and you got March Madness going on, major
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League Baseball starting. There's a lot to a lot to
make some memories with. I had that experience, Yesterdy. My
brother came in from New Orleans. It took me longer
to get from Franklin, Tennessee to the b NA Nashville
Airport that it did for him to fly on Southwest
from New Orleans here middle of the afternoon. Oh well yeah,
late late after Monson. Yeah, it was awful because Los
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Angeles all moved here and now we're like Los Angeles.
That's why I don't leave my Williamson County. Usually they're
used to parking on the roads. I'm gonna be like
the the the older people in the old days, they
would pack a sack lunch to go into the city,
you know, like we may not we may not survive.
But yeah, we're really excited about this weekend. And I
hope your team won. We had opening day of baseball.
(02:51):
Let me start with that. I think, you know, I'm
not supposed to play favorites like with kids, but I
have some favor cities and the euro Morning Show family.
I think for Cleveland, you better get excited because I
think the Guardians are for real. Now. My Yankees won,
but I think we're gonna claw our way to the
middle of the division if we're lucky. I don't know,
(03:12):
I might be surprised. Maybe the one year I think
there's nothing. There'll be something, but you know, I'm eyebaling things.
I think the Guardians look pretty good for getting to
the World Series this year, as do the Dodgers, who
barely beat Detroit last night. I thought that the Tigers
were going to come back, but so it was hurt
Tiger's loss, but everybody else. I think run the Cards
beat the Twins five to three, Guardians won seven to four,
(03:35):
of the Royals, Diamondbacks loss. You Cubs beat your ten
to six, and the Nats lost to the Phillies seven
to three. The Padres won the Giants one. I think
for your morning show, Cities, we had a very good
opening day of baseball. The All SEC Nightmare Final four
scenario is still alive and well, and at some point
(03:56):
I got to look at the eye and say, it's
not just alive and well, it's leaning likely. Don't worry
about All Miss. But I don't I know Michigan State.
You know, I had such high hopes for Michigan State,
and you know I haven't been playing that outstanding. Here
comes o a Miss. That just that's that team that
nobody forgot to tell them you're not supposed to win,
(04:18):
and they just start hitting the trees. Yeah, so I'll
hold my breath for Sparty tonight. Uh. Tennessee and Kentucky
ought to be a great game. Let me tell you
some Kentucky might beat Tennessee. No listen, I'm a Kentucky fan,
but I'm telling you Tennessee could could get into the
mouth of Jaws and find of grab victory out of
(04:39):
its mouth, so that that'll be close. But the presumption
is whoever wins is an SEC team going to the
Elite eid Michigan and Auburn ought to be a dandy
to the victor, Gallian Tail to the Victor, and then
Purdue in Houston. So I'm looking at my bracket, the
great Seer of c years and four teams that have
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advanced to the lead eight. It'll be Florida a one
seed versus Texas Tech a three seed, just as I
have it in my bracket. And then it'll be Number
one versus Number two Duke versus Alabama. Boy, the way
Alabama pulled away in the second half, you know, could
they give Duke a ride? Time will tell. But all
four that advanced I had, so my Elite eight is
(05:25):
on the road to being perfect now tonight. These are
going to be some interesting matchups. I mean, the seeding
would suggest Auburn will advance. That puts three in place
for an all SEC Final four. But here's the bottom line.
The storyline is SEC had its night last night and
it was pretty impressive. They do that tonight, you better
(05:46):
gear up for potentially I Hate Tournament part two. Yeah,
that would be I think that would be so bad
for basketball. But I think everybody's underestimated the Big Ten.
I look for Michigan and Michigan State to show up
tonight and play very well. But it is the turn.
As the Sweet Sixteen marches towards the Elite Eight, we
actually led with sports we've never done. I'm looking at it.
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(08:39):
to talk about the King of Late Night. I mean,
everything you think you know about Johnny, it's all in
there in great detail, and a lot of things you didn't.
It was in the story at the making of the book.
It's almost as extraordinary as the man it's covering. So
if you missed our interview with Mike Thomas, co author
of Carson the Magnificent, that's coming up for you next time.
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Half hour Sounds the day Jeffrey was raving off the
year about it, Elon Musk and the entire Doge team
with an exclusive interview with Brett Barron Fox. We have
some clips from that. What if the Democrats really don't
believe wokeness and political correctness is dead and they doubled
(09:21):
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Always revealing, often entertaining Sounds of the Day are coming
your way, of course, Roy O'Neil and our White House
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And let me see what's today. We mentioned it's Friday, right, yeah, Friday,
So from Signal Gate to the Russian ceasefire talks, presidents
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It's your morning show with Michael del Chno.
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Just watching some of the footage seven point seven earthquake,
really rough, after shocks and bangcocks. They have one shot
of a I presume that's like a residential with the
pool is on like the fortieth floor. It's a high rise, right, yeah,
and the earthquake is just emptying the pool like a waterfall.
The visuals are unbelievable, but I as dramatic as the
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damage is. Jeffrey, what's amazing is so far only two
reported depths. That's just one of our top stories. Waking up.
I'm lucky for you have all your top stories. Twenty
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as we say, into business. Here's what you need to know.
We were just talking about, come on, let's not get
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professional now. We were talking about Elon Musk and the
entire Doge team on Fox last night with Brett bar
It was it was actually and you know it pains
me to say anything good about Fox too. In fact,
every morning, for some reason, Jeffrey's like twenty seconds ahead
of my television with Fox, so I always telling him
the same thing. Hey, let me know in they age
(11:04):
and turn it out to look up. But we were
talking about the fascinating sit down with the entire DOGE
team and Elon Musk at one point you'll hear some
in our sounds today mentioned he doesn't think he'll be
working at the Department of Government Efficiency much longer. Mark
Mayfield has that top story.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Speaking to Fox News, Musk says he believes DOSH will
reach their goal amount of government waste and fraud removed
within his one hundred and thirty day mandate.
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We are cutting the waste import in real time, so
every day thought passes. Our goal is to produce the
waste forward by four billion dollars a day, every day,
seven days week.
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One hundred and thirty days is the legal time frame
given to a special government employee to stay on the job.
He believes he can cut the deficit by one trillion
dollars within that time that started in November.
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I'm Mark Mayfield. President Trump says he's asking his nominee
for US Ambassador to the United Nations to stay in Congress,
Brian Shook as More.
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Trump said it's essential that New York congress Woman Elised
Stephonics stay in the House as Republicans need every seat
they can get, and Texas Senator John Cornyan agrees.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Elie Stefhonic should be congratulated by putting the greater good
ahead of her personal ambition.
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Cornan serves on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which conducted
Steffonic's confirmation hearing back in January. The President said Stefanic
has been vital to pushing forward his administration's agenda.
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I'm Brian Schuk. Meanwhile, President Trump is appointed Georgia State
Senator Brandon Beach to become the US Treasurer.
Speaker 8 (12:35):
The sixty three year old Beach was elected in twenty twelve.
As US Treasurer, Beach will oversee the US Mint, the
Bureau of Engraving and Printing, and Fort Knox, while working
closely with the Federal Reserve. His position is appointed and
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Brandon helped us secure a massive and historic victory for
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So you don't know what the sample size was, you
don't know what the makeup of the sample was. You
don't know exactly how the question was asked, but you
get the headline that I think the left media wants
three out of four Americans field Trump administration using signal
group chat to discuss military plans is a serious problem.
(13:17):
Tammy Trichello has more.
Speaker 9 (13:18):
That includes sixty percent of Republicans, according to a Yugov pole.
That pole was taken after it was revealed this week
that high ranking officials, including Defense Secretary Pete Haigseth, national
Security Advisor Mike Waltz, an Intelligence chief Telsea Gabbard, talked
about plans to carry out a tax on Yemen in
a group chat that accidentally included the editor in chief
of the Atlantic, who reported on the breach.
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I'm Tammy TRICHEO. Now it's also worthy of note a
lot of people think, isn't that the kind of stuff
that should happen in a situation room? And if they
think that way, that would explain those results, and that
would explain why that's what Donald Trump keeps saying. Well,
the average tax refund in twenty twenty four was three
thousand dollars, So how do you make the most of
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For many people, tax refunds provide a once a year
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The older you are, the more you should be putting
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you should also be thinking of planning. Am I going
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I saving for a home?
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It's sports. The Tide rolled Bama one p. Thirteen eighty
eight over BYU Gator's Chopped pulled away in the second half,
eighty seven to seventy one over the Maryland Trips. Duke
survived Arizona one hundred and seventy three and Cinderella came
up just short. Arkansas lost to Texas Tech eighty five
to eighty three. So for advance to the lead. Eight
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tonight Old Miss Michigan State, Kentucky and Tennessee, Michigan, Auburn
and Purdue in Houston. In the NBA Caves beat the Spurs,
Thunder up the Grizz, Kings one over the Blazers, and
the Lakers lost to the Bulls on the ice. Red
Wings lost at home four to three to the Senators.
Blues beat the Preds three to two, Lightning eight zip
in Utah. The Kings lost to the Abs four to nothing. Birthdays,
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Oh we had to baseball yet, Cardinals beat the Twins,
Guardian's one over the Royals, NAT's lost seven to three
to the Phillies, Cups ten six over the Dbacks, Padres
seven to four over the Braves, and the Giants won
six to four over the Reds. Now Birthdays Lady Gaga
thirty nine years old, Riba McIntyre. Anybody want to guess ye,
(16:39):
they arranged for Reba to meet my mother because my
mother loves Reba McIntyre. What is the light?
Speaker 2 (16:43):
She was?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Happy birthday to Riba McIntyre seventy years old today and
one of my favorites, Vince Vaughn, is fifty five. If
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it is, we need Red well ride sid a little
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feature last week and we look forward to presenting it
to you this week. It's our Spotlight Interview, You of
the week. If you loved Johnny Carson, you don't want
to miss this interview in fact, as I've said many times,
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the making of this book, there ought to be a
movie about that. It's almost as interesting as the man
it covers. Mike Thomas is the author of the amazing biography.
I've read it. I highly encourage any fan of Johnny
Carson to read it. It's called The King of Late
Night Carson, The Magnificent Mike, Good morning, Hey, how are you.
(18:33):
I'm doing great. I'm a huge obvious Johnny Carson fan.
Oh great, here. I'm also a fan of your work.
You've done bios on Andy Kaufman, Reaches, Philbin, Jay Leno,
Phil Hartman, among others. But this particular project, I don't know.
We almost need a book about the making of the
book because what the prologue is. Yeah, there's like two
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great stories here went into making this book and then the.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Man who lived the life worthy of this book. Yeah, well,
thanks for noticing that. It was kind of an epic
getting into this. It was I, you know, I did
those books that Andy Kaufman, Jay Leno reagis with Bill
Zamy in the Sinatra book. Actually back in the day
when I was like in my twenties, I was his
research assistant, and then I went off and had a
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fifteen year career at the Sun Times and then started
doing books on my own, including Phil Hartman and Second
City Book. And then when this came along, it was
kind of the perfect full circle moment. I mean, you know,
obviously it was horrible that Bill died in twenty twenty three,
but I said, what can I do to honor my
late friend? And it was finishing finished the book. So yeah,
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because you know, anybody.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Can remember that's a function of the mind, but honoring
is a function of the heart. But you know, let's
go through that function with the audience. Explain to them
why this was important to Bill. It starts with an
exclusive interview, right, and then the notes of that and
the audio of that interview, and then a contract to
write a book, book that didn't quite get finished until
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you decided to finish it. So walk them through that
whole extraordinary story. Yeah, So, you know, Bill had been
a Carson fanboy. Really, I think he would describe himself
that way since he was in his early teens in
South Holland, a suburb of Chicago, And you know, he
would watch Johnny in the seventies on his little black
and white television you know, he got it as a
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birthday gift when he was fifteen. He would lock himself
in the room and not just be entertained by Johnny,
but study Johnny how he did what he did, and
he retained that fascination as his writing career started blossoming,
you know, and once he got to Rolling Stone in
the late eighties early nineties, he had enough of a
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profile there to make an ask of Johnny when Johnny
was in his last year of doing the show in
ninety one ninety two, And so I found the letter
that Bill wrote to his editor and then Joan Winner,
the publisher of Rolling Stone, wrote on Bill's behalf to
the Carson camp, asking if Johnny would sit down for
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kind of an exit interview with Bill. He wasn't able
to do that because Johnny was inundated, you know, that
last year. But Bill was able to get backstage, hang out,
talk to people, see Johnny do his thing in and
out of makeup, stuff like that, to write an appreciation
for Rolling Stone. It wouldn't be for another ten years
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after Johnny retired in ninety two that Bill would actually
get a long sit down with Johnny. Luckily, three years
before Johnny's passing.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Luckily three years before Johnny's passing, but Bill had tried.
He had made inroads little by little by little. He
was a very patient guy, played this, played the long game.
He got to know Johnny's assistance, you know, people who
helped him out at his post retirement offices in Santa Monica.
He would pop in every now and then once in
a while, Johnny would be there. And and Bill had
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also been writing a lot about Late Night, about Leno,
about Letterman, about Kimmel, about all these guys were the
Late Night firmament ed McMahon. He wrote a piece about sidekicks.
So he was very plugged into that world. And I'm
sure Johnny noticed that, and he finally got a chance
to interview him in two thousand and two over a
long lunch in Santa Monica.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
So that was the story of Bill's journey to Johnny.
That's amazing. I remember growing up, and I grew up
in Arlington Heights, a suburb of Chicago, and we would
watch two things I remember from my childhood. One sitting
at McDonald's that was connected to the Burger The Burger
Kings shared a parking lot with McDonald's. McDonald's would be packed,
and we would sit there and eat. I'd look at
my father and I'd point to the one guy eating
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at Burger King and going, who eats at Burger King?
And you'd had that same feeling watching the Tonight Show? Right,
Who's watching Dick Cavott? You know? I mean, Johnny was
bigger than life. He is still the greatest. He is
still the king of talk even after his death. That's funny.
Dick Cavot was Burger King, Yeah, he was Burger King.
Carson the Magnificent is the book started by Bill's Amy
and then now being finished by Mike Thomas and just
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in time. And by the way, I'm so distracted you
got the Tonight Show curtain behind you. But oh yeah,
I figured, you know, why not Johnny? You know, in
the making of this interview, in the making of this
book and the book that you would finish for your
mentor so many things from fame to divorce, to the
death of his son to being perceived as a private person.
(23:18):
I would think one of the biggest things is Johnny
would never take the bait and do what all the
late night host show hosts are doing now and being political.
I mean, there are so many Where do you begin
to tell the story of the magnificence of Johnny Carson.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, you know, Johnny was occasionally political, but it was always,
you know, whatever was funny. It was never really a
partisan thing. And it was a lot gentler too.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Back in the day.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Johnny always wanted to retain the widest possible audience, and
he did, you know, because part of Carson too, and
I think this is why people still have an emotional
connection to him to this day, is that he put
you to sleep at night. He didn't get you all
wound up. It was this like almost of a new tomorrow.
You know, Johnny's there. He's the last image flickering on
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your brain, and that makes such a positive imprint that
lasts for decades and decades. I'm sorry I got off
the the.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Main idea you were asking, Well, I mean, just where
do you begin to tell his story? I mean, get
for all of us that are fans, I get the
PDF of it, so I've already got to read it.
But I'm trying to let you tell the story. I
want them to know. If you love Johnny Carson, this
is a unique view of Johnny Carson. You're going to
see some things you've never seen before, and then there
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are some things you know about him that get more
in depth. It's yeah, it was quite a man.
Speaker 10 (24:38):
It was.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
It was a life of triumphant tragedy. It was.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
He's a complicated guy, like any good you know, biography.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Figure is.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
He had been written about before, but a lot of
what had been written was you.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Know, unfair, a raw deal.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Well, I don't know if yeah, it was, it was
you know, the mean Johnny, the cruel journey the I
I'd like to think this is a much more nuanced
portrait written by a person and building most of the
writing in this who was a true fan who truly
appreciated Carson's art form and it was an art form.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
So you get a lot of that in the book.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
You get a lot of bills, you know, sort of
picking apart Johnny's you know, monologues and everything else, you know,
talking about how he did what he did. But there's
also the more emotional Johnny and the softer side of
Johnny that I had never seen before, especially after his
son dies in nineteen ninety.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
When they came up in the final episode, because he
featured him those and all the Comeback Guard.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
He did feature his son in the final episode, but
also before that, when he came back, he did a
five and a half minute eulogy for his son on
the air. And he never saw Johnny emotional like that
on the air, wearing his heart on his sleeve, and
he did that one time.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
And there's various other scenes about.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
When his son died that make you realized, Okay, this
wasn't just a cold, robotic person.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
I mean, he was a guy who had a depth
of emotion. Yeah. By the way, Mike Thomas is the
co author. He's finishing the job of his mentor and friend,
Bill's Amy and Carson the Magnificent. I encourage you to
get the book everywhere great books are sold. You know this.
I remember as a child watching it, and I remember
Johnny's mother and father were in the audience, and you
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could see the awkwardness in Johnny discussing his mother. That's
something that comes out in your in Bill's interviews and
in this book. If there is a cold side of
Johnny Carson, it's kind of what he got from mom
and never was able to shake. I hate when people
blame their parents for things At some point at sixty
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years old. It's on you.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
But I don't think Johnny ever really recovered from the
cold upbringing Diddy.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
No, I don't think he did.
Speaker 8 (26:52):
She.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I mean, even at the highest point of his fame,
she acted unimpressed with what's happened.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
To remember the Jimmy pearsall store. Are you proud of me?
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Right?
Speaker 1 (27:02):
You're proud of me?
Speaker 11 (27:02):
Yet it's I'm just the thing and talk. I don't
know if that's just her way, because she did. Ultimately,
she saved the whole scrap book of his clips from
when he was coming up that they found in his
closet at some point, So obviously she was proud of him.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
She just couldn't fully express it.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
Who know who knew if that was from her upbringing
or if it was a Nebraska thing. They were very
reserved Midwest people. They didn't wear their hearts on their sleeve,
you know, So it was not a warm and fuzzy household.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Johnny often joked about divorces on the show, but that
was a big part of the disappointment of his life.
I don't think that he took any of those divorces lightly.
I think the first your your opinion would be hurt
the most.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, I think so too, you know, and it just
but you know, his behavior would bry them apart. He was,
you know, stepping out, he was drinking, he was you know,
so he bore a lot of that that burden. And yeah,
I mean he was married four times. You know, it's
still married to his last way. From what I understand,
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they weren't you know, in great shape at the end.
But you know, Johnny was not in great shape health wise.
But yeah, he he didn't get divorced the fourth time.
I think he told people because he didn't want to
be a four time loser. He just but he had
to get married. There was this I think Sinatra had
the same sort of thing going on where he had
to be with someone and not just a girlfriend. He
needed to be married some you know, it's that mentality.
(28:28):
I have seen this before. Some people just need to
be married to have the thrill of cheating. I don't
know if that's it, but it's something bizarre in that close.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah, it was. It was bizarre. Mike Thomas is joining us.
Carson the Magnificent, He really was.
Speaker 10 (28:42):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
I was watching the movie about Saturday Night Live and
you think if if Lauren Michaels doesn't take the chance,
if that original cast doesn't pull off the impossible. I mean,
what movies would we have watched in the eighties and nineties,
let alone since then, you know, and beyond, if not
(29:02):
for Sartay Night Live. And then you think of Johnny Carson,
who I don't know if in your research you did it,
but his thesis paper was on comedy and it's brilliant
and no wonder his heroes were Groucho Marx and Jack Benny.
This guy got the science of comedy and he made
comedians on that show. And without those comedians, you don't
(29:23):
have the sitcoms. Without those comedians, you don't have the movies.
I know, you can make a case without those comedians
and the whole fight for Johnny to hang on to
Saturday Night you don't get or you do get Saturday
Night Live. There are so many webs to this, isn't
there There are tons?
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I mean, yeah, you could say that, you know, Johnny
really formed comedy in the seventies, eighties, nineties and beyond
as we know it. And yeah, if not for Johnny
wanting more time off and wanting to pull reruns from
Saturdays and put them on a weekday like there wouldn't
have been a slot for Saturday Night Live, and so
Lauren Michaels would not have been able to exactly revolutionize
(29:57):
comedy as he did, and Lauren revered John. I mean
there's in the New Lorn book which is terrific Carson
has sprinkled all over it. So yeah, they both in
their own ways, formed the final minute.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I think the best part of the story is how
you finish this book for your mentor, I really do.
But beyond that to the story itself, what's the lesson
of Johnny Carson's life? What was the one thing you
took away when you hit the end?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
I think Johnny was, you know, a great appreciator of comedy,
a great practitioner of comedy. But he was far better
at comedy than he was at life. And I don't
think that's atypical for a lot of performers. You know,
they pour everything they have into whatever art form it is.
They're the movies, TV, and a lot of other stuff
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goes by the wayside.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Sometimes making the right career choices is making all the
wrong life choices, isn't it? Sometimes depends. Maybe that's why
it took me till sixty to get a national show.
Speaker 10 (30:53):
Tell it.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I'll stick with my wife and kids. Congratulations, Carson the
Magnificent get it everywhere books, great books are sold. Mike Thomas,
and good job finishing this for your mentor Bill. It's
a great story. Thanks Michael, I really appreciate it. God
bless you and your curtain behind you. Thank you. I
appreciate it. Thanks author Mike Thomas. You really need to
get the book. He's a great guy. I loved our visit.
(31:14):
That's why it's our Spotlight Interview of the week. This
is your morning show with Michael del Chrono. Your top
five stories of the day, Starting with the FAA is
telling Congress it must do more to ensure flying remains
safe after mid air collision over Washington, d C that
killed sixty seven people. Mark Mayfield fills us in.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
The agency's acting administrator, Chris Rushlo, told a Senate hearing
on Thursday, we have to get smarter about how we
use data.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Something was missed at the DCA crash. I take that seriously.
I take that upon myself.
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Investigators have highlighted eighty five close calls around Reagan Airport
over three years before the crash, but Russlo admits the
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I'm Mark Mayfield and Trump is appointed Georgia State Senator
Brandon Beach to become his new US Treasurer.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
The sixty three year old Beach was elected in twenty twelve.
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for our movement in the great state of Georgia. I'm
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me Sa Taylor.
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Well Signal Gauge Mental Gate. Three out of four Americans
think the Trump administration using signal group chat to discuss
military plans that might be a serious problem.
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That includes sixty percent of Republicans, according to a UGOV pole.
That pole was taken after it was revealed this week
that high ranking officials, including Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, national
Security Advisor Mike Waltz, an Intelligence chief Telsea Gabbard, talked
about plans to carry out attacks on Yemen in a
group chat that accidentally included the editor in chief of
the Atlantic who reported on the breach.
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I'm Tammy Trheo. Ariana Grande has released a deluxe edition
of her hit album Eternal Sunshine with six new tracks
on it. Eternal Sunshine debuted at number one on the
Billboard two hundred chart last year, spawned two chart topping singles.
Grunday is also releasing a Brighter Days Ahead short film
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that she co directed to a company. Today's release of
the deluxe addition and in Sports four have advanced to
the Lit eight. The Tide rolled Big One thirteen eighty
eight over BYU Florida pulled away in the second half
eighty seven to seventy one to survive The Scare of Maryland,
Duke survived Arizona one hundred and ninety three, and the
Cinderella came up short. A slipper short Arkansas loses to
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Texas Tech eighty five to eighty three. Tonight Ole Miss
Michigan State, Kentucky, and the Tennessee Balls Michigan, Auburn and
Purdue in Houston for those final four spots in NBA Action,
If we could get some sneakers please. The Cavs beat
the Spurs one twenty four one sixteenth thunder up the
grizz one twenty five one oh four, Kings won one
twenty eight one oh seven over the Blazers, and the
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Lakers lost to the Bulls by two one nineteen one
seventeen on the Heisen Hockey Red Wings lost four to
three to the Senators, Blues beat the Preds, Lightning struck
big eight zip over Utah, and the Kings shut out
the Abs or lost to the Abs and got shut
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of bit of good to the Cardinals opening day at Bush.
They beat the Twins five to three, Guardians seven to
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four over the Royals. NAT's lost seven to three to
the Phillies, Cubs took down the d Backs ten to six,
and the Padres won seven to four over the Braves
and the Giants six to four over the Reds. Birthdays today,
Lady Gaga is thirty nine years old, the Great Reba
McIntyre seventy years old, and actor Vince Vaughn. Favorite Vince
Vaughn movie, Well he was in Rudy People forget that
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wedding crashers pretty high on that list. A couples retreat,
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Vince Vaughn is fifty five years old today. We're all
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