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April 18, 2025 34 mins

End of the world update, Sounds of The Day and the 30-year anniversary of the OKC bombing.

Where gambling, Environmental whackos, California and Harvard have taken us!

Always revealing and often entertaining, it’s The Sounds of The Day! 

It has been 30 years since the Murrah Federal Building was bombed, and a new docuseries marking the anniversary has been produced by National Geographic. OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING: ONE DAY IN AMERICA looks at the events leading up to the bombing, what happened that day, and the threat of domestic terrorism. The director of the series, Carrie Isfryn, is available to discuss what she learned about the tragedy and how the Oklahoma City bombing continues to impact America thirty years later.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, it's me Michael.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Enjoy the podcast starting your morning off right. A new
way of talk, a new way of understanding, because we're
in this together. This is your morning show with Michael
O'Dell charn where in something together today. Some might call
it hell. I was Friday. It's a good Friday.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Well it will be. Today's about suffering and dying. Victory
is coming. I was twenty two years old and I
was doing a morning show with my father in New Orleans,
and I'm sitting watching Lawrence Walk and it was painful
with my grandmother. I don't it was a generational thing,

(01:11):
and I didn't get it.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Bobby and Assisium and all that. When all of a sudden,
my whole life went inside.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Out, and my grandmother begins to convulse and I panicked.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
I ran into the kitchen. I dialed nine point one.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
The operator asked me the address. I didn't know it.
I know how to get to it, but I know
the exact day she goes, don't worry about it. I
actually can see your address. The ambulance is on its way.
I mean, I was just freaking out and she was
having a massive stroke, and I watched these two individuals
get there. It seemed like seconds and just boom came through,

(01:54):
slamming through the door, and I just watched them bring
my grandmother back to life, throwing sofas, reclining chairs, just
moving you know, stuff around, and it changed my life forever,
and that I knew it was important. What those people
do is important. Radio doesn't compare now. We provide a service,

(02:18):
but it's not life and death. So if you could
see Jeffrey right now, it's been an absolute nightmare this
morning from a technical standpoint, and you know, it's been
a huge distraction and we've been dealing with it, and
I'm sure it's affecting your local station. My guess is
you're at least a break behind. And who knows that

(02:38):
things are timing out. Who knows if you're even hearing
this right now, but I just remind everybody take a
deep breath.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
It's just radio. Nobody's going to die because of this.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
And for those that are hearing things as they should
be heard, well, we stay in the moment for you.
So if you're just waking up nine minutes after the hour,
welcome to Good Friday. As to why we call it
a good Friday, a day when Christ suffered and died,
we'll address in our State of the Easter address in
the third hour. It's also the thirtieth anniversary of the
Oklahoma City bombing. I was in my office. I wasn't

(03:10):
on the air at the time when it happened in
the morning, but certainly our news staff responded immediately, and
our news director headed straight to Oklahoma City. I think
to this day he would tell you it was his
most meaningful work in his very decorated fifty year career,
or whatever it ended up being. I can't believe we're

(03:30):
all this old and it was more than a news story.
It was our fellow citizens who went to work just
like we did, only didn't get to live. There were
children in daycare I think thirty years later, there's a
lot of people. You know, there's certain events that happened.
I think, you know, New Orleans would relate to life

(03:51):
before Katrina and after Katrina. I think America can relate
to life before nine to eleven and after nine to eleven.
And that's certainly the case in Oklahoma and thirty years later,
we remember that we're going to have coming up later
in the next half hour, Kerrie Isfrin is going to
be joining us. She worked hard on the Oklahoma City

(04:16):
bombing One Day in America documentary for National Geographics, and
we'll remember that tragedy and that senseless violence thirty years ago.
Today it's also Friday, which means Friday with forty seven.
Can't have your morning show without your voice?

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Are we going to?

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Can we play these talkbacks? I don't know what you're
capable of and not capable of. I feel like in
the movie Apollo thirteen. Let's start all over into a
systems check. What on this aircraft is operational?

Speaker 1 (04:43):
I do have I do have your talkbacks? All right,
let's get those, and then we're going to have our
first end of the world update. All right, cool, here
we go.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Absolutely a great open today Michael big John, wonderful.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Well, it's the open that wouldn't close, right, because I
just began that. I was in formed you can't take
a break. That was like that moment in the movie
Bronx Tail Now you can't leave.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
I don't like it when our eyes locked like that
and we're both helpless.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
No, but it wasn't that I can talk forever, sure,
you know, I mean, I never forget. The first time
I did stand up comedy, the guy was like how
many minutes he got? And I'm like, I'm asking you,
how many minutes do I got?

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Know?

Speaker 1 (05:21):
How many do you have?

Speaker 3 (05:22):
And of course I didn't realize in the comedian world
it's your material length. And so I said, I go,
what do you want me to do? Thirty minutes an hour?
What do you want me doing? The guy look at
me like, I goes, not like who am I Jerry Seinfeld.
I'll just keep going. He goes once to twenty, and
so I just went until the light came on. So
that's kind of how I am. It's not that I
don't have things to talk about. It's just that I'm
finally going. And then the computer kicks in and takes

(05:44):
the breaks me up. Yeah, next caller, all right, good.

Speaker 6 (05:48):
Morning, Michael. I was just calling to say, have a
good Friday. I guess people don't really say that, but
I guess.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
I just did. We'll get to that.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
About the senators going to El Salvador. I think all
the Democratic senators should go there and book a room
and stay down there for about three years. Then they
could probably figure it out. Anyway, have a good day
and a happy weekend and all that stuff. Chase eggs
around and all that. See you later. Goodbye toast.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Was that everybody that called before I do my shameless club?

Speaker 1 (06:16):
No, I've got one more for you. One more, Okay,
one more?

Speaker 7 (06:18):
All right, Michael D. Thanks for my morning show. See
you from Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Got a riddle for you. What do you call it?

Speaker 7 (06:25):
Twenty eight minute straight dialogue from Michael de Jorna give up, glorious, Hey,
keep up the good work, buddy.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Thank you. Grace here too, kind that's grace, that's mercy.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
We had a morning host in tuls Oklahoma, John Earling,
and I never considered myself this boss. He was a
complete being in and of himself. He is along with
my father, and I think John records. Land Decker uh
probably one of the three greatest talents I ever saw.
And he had a line one time and we went

(07:02):
in and had and made a plaque and put it
on the wall. Are these commercials absolutely necessary? And of course,
you know when he said that in like nineteen ninety one,
of course they're necessary, or we don't make a living.
But that's how important he thought. Everything he was saying
was why do we even take commercial breaks?

Speaker 1 (07:21):
But yeah, that was a half hour of commercial.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
That was almost fifty minutes of NonStop talk due to
technical difficulties.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
So back to back. I thought you were going to
go all Tory Booker and go twenty five hours.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
I can go twenty five hours, not on the nonsense
he was talking about, but on other things. We used
to do this update almost daily in local radio. We
haven't really found a way to make it work in
this And then Red and I were looking at this
week and we just came to this conclusion. Where has gambling,
environmental wackos, the state of California and Harvard University taken

(07:54):
us this week?

Speaker 1 (07:55):
And the answer is to an end of the world
updating you out there. But I deal five fine. I
mean who needs horse racing. That's where it all began

(08:15):
for me.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
I went to handicapping school at nine years old at
Arlington Park Racetrack with my father. Well, my dad was
a morning man and he was off by nine am.
He had a lot of time to kill and me
I like to skip school, so together we'd find ourselves
at the racetrack. Rudy Arena was one of the guys
with the big cigar class.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Of the race, bop six horse sads raising, you know,
and I'd be always like, what about the speed. It's
only five furlongs, you know.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
So I went through hand keep school, but I'm forget
horse racing, which is kind of where it all began.
Now we've moved on to we bet everything. I have
a nephew that came to visit me. I get up
in the middle of the night to do this radio
show and he was up and I said, what are
you doing? I put ten dollars on such and such.

(08:59):
I said, what could possibly be playing in the middle
of the night. Oh, this is cricket in India. You
might have a gambling problem, young man. But I thought
to myself, what don't we gamble on? And I thought
I heard of everything until this week. A new competition

(09:21):
is headed for one of Los Angeles' most well known arenas,
complete with live streams, stats, leaderboards, instant replays, and of course,
the ability to bet. However, you're going to need a
microscope to see the competitors. It might come as a
bit of a surprise to many that the organizers of
what is billed as the world's first competitive sperm race

(09:46):
are teenagers. A startup called Sperm Racing run by four
teenage entrepreneurs from the US. I cannot tell you how
hard I work to have nothing left at the end
of every month, literally not a penny.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
And then I watched my wife.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
My son had thirty five cents change the other day,
and she's just like just reaching on the table grabbing him.
This is my tip for all the cleaning and laundry
this week. I mean, we're like scavengers over here. The
joke of this is, you watch, these fourteens will be billionaires.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
Heck, they may.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Be onto something as big as Google, for all I know.
Four teenage entrepreneurs from the United States said it had
raised one point five million dollars to stage the event
at the Hollywood Palladium, and it happens this April twenty fifth.
The inaugural event will pit samples taken from two healthy

(10:45):
young university students against each other on a racetrack roughly
eight inches long. The model of it is the female
reproductive system. Of course, these are young teenagers, so don't
expect this to be anything mature. Once the samples are taken,

(11:05):
they will be placed in and injected into a microfluid
device in the center of the palladium I think concert venue.
A live video feed magnified forty times to display is
it spermaso? What do we call them? An individual? I
don't even know. And the event will run over three

(11:28):
races and there's expected to be a crowd of four
thousand people to watch this event. They even have play
by play and commentary, instant replay, and leader boards. This
is where gambling has taken us to sperm racing.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Maybe that in the world that I feel fine.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
In a college were high school valedictorians and students with
above perfect grade scores and out of sight testing scores.
Harvard University comes this story arguably one of America's most
elite universities, one of the worlds it now offers, for

(12:21):
the first time, remedial math. The school's math department is
providing a new scaled back math class for freshmen who
are apparently arriving to campus lacking foundational skills in high
school math. Blame it on SATs, Blame it on acts,
blame it on co COVID. Harvard is quick to blame

(12:43):
these math gaps on pandemic learning laws, but in truth,
administrators brought this mess on themselves by scrapping standardized testing
requirements during the pandemic, all in the name of of course,
equity political correctness. It arrives at Harvard University in the
form of remedial math.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
And I don't know if it's anything like LSU. And
I don't know how.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
I know this wink wink, but I'm guessing it's in
the basement.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
I once.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
I know, I know you feel find I once did
a bit one time, and I had a brain injury
at the time. I didn't have to go for technical difficulties,
but I went twenty minutes into an instant skit a
takeoff on Silence of the Lambs, only it was called
the Farting of the Lambs, because if you're an environmental waco.
Those lambs passing gas, that's the problem. Well, it didn't

(13:47):
take far for the left to catch.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Up with me.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Dogs have extensive gas, which creates environmental impacts, disrupting.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Wildlife, polluting water.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
And contributing to carbon emissions, according to new research.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
In fact, an.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Australian review of existing studies has argued that the environmental
impact of owning dogs is far greater, more insidious, and
more concerning than is generally recognized.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Well, that was the whole point of my skit.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
You drive whatever car they tell you, You never leave
your home, you turn everything off and sit in darkness.
You have an impact according to their carbon theories, the
problem one tenth of one degree. No, if you really
want to get to this, you got to get rid
of all the animals because they're passing gas. And when

(14:39):
you're done with them, you got to get rid of
all the human beings.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Because we're passing gas too. But I got news for you.

Speaker 3 (14:46):
If you're going to start with any animal to try
to sell this, why would you pick dogs? In Catlright,
I know I'm rushing.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
I'm rushing. We should have done so much on technical difficulties.
This is my favorite. I'll do a short.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
Version of it because I don't want to throw you
off on timing after you finally have everything technically fixed.
But in California they solved the problem of affordable housing.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Do you remember my analogy.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
If you came home and sewage had backed up all
the way to your ceiling, and somebody suggested to you
the solution is, well, let's just raise the roof six
inches so you have twelve inches that aren't filled with
human feces.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
You'd take it out right. That's not a solution.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Well, in California they have a similar mindset, and I
wish I could tell you this is the bevelon b
It's not progressive Democrat lawmakers in the state of California
trying to figure out the housing crisis, especially for students,
have a simple bajarring remedy. Let's just let them sleep
in their cars.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
You can't make this stuff up.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Bolts, Drug's stupid, It's no way to go through life.
Dave Warmer was right, that is thanks to gambling, environmental
wackos California and Harvard.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
You're into the world update for this Good Friday.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
This is David Peterson in Columbia, Tennessee, and my morning
show is your morning show with the Michael del jarna.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
It's Michael reminding you that your morning show can be
heard live each weekday morning five to eight Central, six
to nine Eastern in great cities like Nashville, Tennessee, tu Below, Mississippi,
and Sacramento, California. We'd love to be a part of
your morning routine and take the drive to work with you,
but better late than never. We're grateful you're here now.
Enjoy the podcast.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Moron why we call it good Friday in our state
of the Easter. Address next hour and it's Friday, so
look for forty seven to join us in about thirty
five minutes from right now. Can't have your morning show
without your voice. Wouldn't want to have your morning show
without your voice. The talk back line we go Gabe,
formerly of Saint Louis, now of Florida.

Speaker 8 (17:01):
Bro Jeffrey Well, I hate to break the news here.

Speaker 9 (17:05):
They didn't start with catching dogs.

Speaker 8 (17:06):
If you remember maybe.

Speaker 9 (17:07):
About ten twenty years ago in Jermany that we're talking
about doing it.

Speaker 10 (17:13):
Cows too much cat?

Speaker 2 (17:15):
You want to put bags on him to catch it
or catch the farmers for it.

Speaker 11 (17:20):
Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
Yeah, but coming after dogs and cats, I think Tom
Poppa does a great stand up routine and he's like,
what if we weren't supposed to be eating these animals?
Do you think they are like angels going back up
to heaven and reporting to God, Hey, God, we got
a problem down there.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
They're eating everything.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
And in the bit he goes, you know, he doesn't
understand why what we picked to eat, but somewhere along
the line not this one, and they grabbed the dog
and the cat. We make pets out of them, but
we eat everything else. Corey the yard boy, that's right
here in Nashville.

Speaker 8 (17:50):
Good morning, Michael, This is Corey. I just want to
tell the audience out there that may be new to
Michael del Giorno, there's nobody better to have when you
have a technical problem that can talk straight through the
commercial breaks. Oh then, Michael del Jorno, great job, Jim,
keep up a good word gas.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
At my last station, I was known to talk through
them and we weren't having technical difficulties.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Jimmy suits from hobvyd Yoad. They might get serie shirt
from Harvard.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
I feel like the ostridge from Boxmore Lakehorn with my
hitting the saying after that three about HAVD. I thought
that might trigger you. I should trigger the end of
the World update every time, Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
So it's cost a raw. Nuke talks are tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
You might want to between Good Friday and Easter Sunday,
pray for a miracle there. That is probably one of
the most predictable threats to mankind. And then the US
Marco Ruby making it clear if there's not some progress
made by Ukraine or Russia, we're gonna step away from
these talks. I guess they just need to die some
more and fight some more. And we had another shooting,

(18:57):
this time at Florida State University. The suspect twenty year
old son of a sheriff's deputy. We don't even know,
I think yet for sure, although from everything I've read
it looks pretty obvious to me. Read I think he's
an FSU student. But as far as motive, we don't
know a whole lot. Was it something with another student?

(19:19):
You got the leftist media, you know, already beginning with
the talks of being a white supremacist, although that could
just mean he voted for Donald Trump, you know, to them,
so we have no idea what the motive is. He
opened fire at Florida State University on Thursday, killing two
people that weren't students, wounding several others. Police identified this
respect as Phoenix Ickner, twenty years old, the son of

(19:40):
a sheriff's deputy. The shooting began at about eleven fifty
a m. Eastern time. Police said the shooter had a
shotgun with him, but they could not confirm whether it
was used. It seemed to be one of the revolvers
that probably belonged logically to the sheriff's deputy mother. Two
people were killed, six others were injured. All so patients

(20:00):
wounded during the shooting are in fair condition, according to
Tallahassee Memorial Hospital, and the suspect was also wounded. And
that's about all we know as of this moment. And
if you're just waking up.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
These are your sounds of the day.

Speaker 12 (20:15):
He's got to stopped.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
I really don't know what he says at the end
of this.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
It's very hard to get everything in today, having been
delayed by our technical difficulty that we're all solved by
Jeffrey Lyons three.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
How do you like my garbage?

Speaker 3 (20:31):
Love your garbage, jock. All right, let's start with sounds
of the day.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Florida state shooting.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
The news got to the White House while the President
was signing an executive order with the press in the
Oval office. Of course, the press only knows how to
blame the gun. Here was the President's response, Well.

Speaker 12 (20:48):
I'm going to have this.

Speaker 9 (20:49):
Look.

Speaker 12 (20:49):
I'm a big advocate of the Second Amendment. That happened
from the beginning. I protected it, and these things are terrible.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
But the gun doesn't do the shooting. The people do.

Speaker 12 (21:00):
It's you know, a phrase, it's used probably too often.
I will tell you that.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
It's a shame.

Speaker 12 (21:08):
I'm just hearing about it now.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
I just hear about it.

Speaker 12 (21:11):
I know the area very well, I know the school
very well, know everything about It's Florida, and we'll have
more to say about.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
It later on. There will be more to say about it, only.

Speaker 13 (21:22):
In terms of what happened. As far as legislation.

Speaker 12 (21:25):
Is concerned, this has been going on for a long time.
I have an obligation to protect the Second Amendment. I
ran on the Second Amendment, among many other things, and
I will always protect the Second Amendment.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
You know what I loved most about that piece of sound.
Joe Biden was famous for immediately calling for gun legislation,
and he didn't know any facts of the shooting whatsoever.
It's reckless to do that. You're sitting in an office
doing what you're doing, you find out something happened, you

(21:58):
know nothing, and these reporters want a resolution and a
conclusion to immediately be made. I don't care if you
love Donald Trump. I don't care if you hate Donald Trump.
I love the fact that he's not tricked by reporters.
This doesn't change who I am, what I believe, and

(22:20):
I know nothing about this story. I know whatever it is,
it's tragic and it's awful, but I'll wait till I
know more. Boy, that's nice to hear. This is the
President taking questions along with the leader of Italy from
the Oval Office, and a lot of people are talking

(22:42):
about this one because he brings up Jimmy Carter.

Speaker 13 (22:44):
Listen, and President said, in some cases we're smart, but
they didn't understand business, or they didn't like business, or
you know, it wasn't like a priority. And then you had,
like the last administration, the only thing they all good
at it was cheating an elections it's about all that
could do.

Speaker 12 (23:00):
They couldn't do anything that were useless.

Speaker 13 (23:01):
They were in the common worst administration in the history
of our country, worst than Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carler died
a happy man. You know why, because he wasn't the
worst president. Joe Biden was.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
So everybody is going to be on this all day long.
The truth of the matter is whether you think it
was appropriate to say it or not. I think Jimmy
Carter traditionally is at the bottom of the list of
modern day presidents as the worst, and I do agree
Joe Biden will surpass him and be the worst. Of course,

(23:36):
the worst part about Jimmy about Joe Biden is history
will remember him as not even being the president and
one of the greatest political hoaxes in American history that
took place.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
We had.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
I got to do this real quick. In terms of summary,
I believe the Democrat Party has a two front war.
They're first at war with themselves and then they're at
war with our republic not even Republicans. They just are
in the way, and Republican voters, deplorable Republican voters are
really in the way. The first time the Socialist Justice

(24:11):
Democrats made a play for the White House. They would
have succeeded twenty sixteen with Bernie Sanders. He would have
gotten the nomination, but the DNC got involved to rig
it for Hillary using super delegates and other shenanigans. Then
in twenty twenty he was going to be Bernie again,
and they cut a deal in South Carolina and rigged
it for Joe Biden, who was fourth in Iowa, seventh

(24:33):
in New Hampshire. And the plan there was to get
him in and then shuffle him off and get their
real candidate, Kamala Harris, who they couldn't get elected because
she was the first one out of the primary and
a terrible candidate. But it was a shenanigan to get around.
They couldn't have the socialist twenty two percent of their
party get control of the nomination. What's different this time?

(24:54):
And you know the shnanigan they played in twenty twenty
four hanging on to Joe, then exposing Joe and after
all the primary votes were in, switched to Kamala without
their voters having a say. So three times they outsmarted
the Socialist Democrats who would have won their primaries. This
time they're doing it again. They have passed the role

(25:16):
of AOC onto Crockett. Crockett is now being placed and
presented as some kind of stateswoman, and the torch has
been passed from Bernie to AOC and she will win
the Democratic nomination if she runs in twenty twenty eight
unless the DNC does what it did in twenty twenty four,
twenty twenty and twenty sixteen, some kind of Shenanigan to

(25:39):
steal it from him. But they have a big problem
this time. David Hogue, a twenty five year old survivor
of the Parkland shooting, an activist who's going to be
raising millions of dollars to defeat Democrats in the primary process.
And so we said, what do you think somebody like
establishment James Carvel thinks of David Hoague, Because here comes
the same place play all over again, only this time

(26:02):
with AOC, and this time with the vice chairman of
the DNC, the wolf in the henhouse.

Speaker 1 (26:07):
Here was the answer to that question from James Carpel, the.

Speaker 14 (26:11):
Vice chair of the Democratic National Committee.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
David Hogg, the young.

Speaker 14 (26:15):
Activist from Parkland, has announced that his organization, which is
called Leaders, We Deserve is launching a twenty million dollar
effort to start primary ing incumbent Democratic officials, who he
says are quote failing to meet the moment right now.
Hank says he would only target districts that are safe
for Democrats.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
What do you think of that?

Speaker 9 (26:35):
Well, I don't know, Jacob. I went to Lost school
a long time ago. He is an officsh of the
Democratic National Committee. I think am I to look it
up and talk to life. He has a fiduce share
duty and so he's had a fu shared duty to
the Democratic Party and he's going to raise twenty million
dollars in primary Democrats. Does he really think the problem
that we'll face in the United States today is because

(26:57):
of we got sixty five year old Democrats and office?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
But why don't you take on the Republic?

Speaker 3 (27:02):
No, it's not sixty five, it's eighty five. And don't
act like James Carville. You don't know what socialist justice
Democrats are up to. You know their game is to
dismantle your party, take it over, get rid of the
electoral college, and then get rid of the Republic. And
you know exactly what they're doing with Hoag. Now you've
got a vice chairman, a wolf in the Henhouse. How

(27:25):
are you going to block it this time? Claim me
as a fiduciary responsibility and the fight is on to
remove him from the DNC prior to the primary process.
Everything is happening just as I'm telling you it is happening,
and the race is on for AOC to get the
nomination if the process isn't messed with or them insert

(27:48):
Wes Moore and Ronnie Manuel the way they inserted Joe Biden,
inserted Hillary Clinton. Now I ask for somebody that may
run for president going to al Salvador to meet with
an MS thirteen wife beating human trafficking, violent drug lord

(28:13):
and then also wanting to run for president. Never mind
the legalities of the case. What on earth politically is
Chris van Holland thinking? We find out from brit Hume.

Speaker 10 (28:26):
It's a bit of a mystery to me, Brett, why
Chris van Holland, who I think would like to run
for president, is racing down to l Salvador to try
to get a Salvadoran man who is illegally in the
United States out of jail down there. Now, the courts,
you're dealing with the question of whether he should have
been put there and whether he should be brought back
for due process or whatever. But in political terms, it's

(28:49):
hard for me to imagine that many Americans will look
at this guy and think he's a sympathetic victim. The
administration has put forward a lot of information about the
likelihood he was a gang member and a dangerous one
of that, and that he'd apparently beaten his wife and
so on, and so I guess what we think these
Democrats think is that they that they are looking at

(29:12):
a mandate from their most active ast constituent.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Hmmm, that old chestnut, Well, how will it play? We
always love to feature Harryett, and because he's right on
CNN as they're trying to sell a false narrative, he's
telling them how it's not working.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
They just don't want to hear it.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Apparently, so supporting a gang member in prison where he
belongs in his home country, how might that be playing
in America that views Donald Trump's service to immigration and
border security in such a positive way. He tries to
explain to the CNN host who doesn't understand, stay here

(29:52):
with this.

Speaker 14 (29:52):
Compare where he is on immigration to where Biden was
we know that this was why he landed immigration so much.

Speaker 11 (29:59):
Yes, this is a big reason why. So take a
look here this is on immigration.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
What track?

Speaker 11 (30:03):
Are we on the right track or the wrong track?
Look in December, look at the percentage who said we
were on the wrong track sixty two percent of Americans
when Joe Biden was in office, compared to just fourteen
percent who said that we were on the right track.
Flash forward to April, well, hello, forty five percent say
we're on the right track, compared to forty two percent.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Who say were on the wrong track.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Joe Biden, sixty two percent were on the wrong track,
fourteen percent were on the right track. It went right
track fourteen percent to forty five percent with Donald Trump
from wrong track sixty two percent to forty two percent.
And can you imagine if you ask the question more
specifically about a gang lord who was in our country
illegally back in his home country that doesn't want terrorists
on the streets. You see why it's always revealing and

(30:47):
often entertaining when we do the sounds of the day.

Speaker 9 (30:53):
People who majored in online activision with a minor and puberty,
bob a little bit, you'd be you and the.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Media clearly missed the art of the deal. It's going
to work out in a world of lies.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
And a notion of wrong voices, sometimes the memes stand
out is the only form of truth.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
That's kind of how it sounds the day are. This
is your Morning Show with Michael del Chuno.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
It's been thirty years since the Myra Federal Building bombing,
and a new DOCU series marking the anniversary has been
produced by National Geographic. Oklahoma City Bombing, One Day in
America looks at the events leading up to the bombing,
what happened that day, the threat of domestic terrorism as
it exists today, and the director of the series is
Carrie Isfrin, and she joins us now in the liveline.

(31:40):
You know, I live this, and everybody that I know
that lived that. I have a dear friend who was
there doing grief counseling at another dear friend who is
there covering it for news. Their lives aren't the same
thirty years later for what they witnessed. I'm kind of
wondering what your life is like now compared to before
you started this project.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
What did you learn?

Speaker 4 (31:59):
Yeah, I think the reason I want to take on
this product initially was because you know, I'm from the
generation who were around but perhaps too young to actually
fully understand the gravity of what happened that day. So
for me, it was about really trying to you know,
bring this story, the important story of what happened that

(32:20):
day and as you say, the impact that so many
people still feel to day, to that new generation, so
that you know, they can learn not only about the
dangers of extremism, but also about, you know, just how
resilient people can be when it comes to living through
something like this. And I would say that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
I learned come and spend time in Alahoma City and
spent time with some of the people who lived through
that day, was actually just how extraordinary that resilience was
and still continues to be.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Yeah, and I don't know why it surprises us. The
expression is time heals all wounds. Well, Noah doesn't. Is
the truth of the matter. Some things are never the same,
and there's a there's a desire to have a victim
mentality and just you know, remember and move on. Well,
remembering is a function of the mind, Honoring is a
function of the heart, and to ensure it never happens again.

(33:14):
The eye you can't take your eye off the ball,
and I think, you know, part of this remembering is
about coming to some conclusions so we can honor and
prevent it from happening again. And I know that was
one of the goals of the series.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah, I think it's really important for me to put
the advoices of of you know, the people of.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
Oklahoma front and center of this series.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Because I do think that actually by understanding the human
impact of the terrorist acts, like it's not just you know,
the policy of the potic of it, understanding what it means.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
On a human level for those people affected, I think
it's the best way to learn from it. And so
it was really very much about putting those appearances front
and center.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Along with just using archive from.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
That day itself.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
And you know, it is a horroring watch, but I wanted.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
People to understand what it would likely.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
To be there that day and in the days that followed.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
Because you know, like I said, I think it only
by concerning.

Speaker 5 (34:12):
The horror of what happened that you really appreciate.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Just how remarkably strong the city and people were in
the aftermath and continue.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
To be so well.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
I look forward to seeing your work carry and National
Geographics always does a terrific job. They can find that
on the National Geographics channel or is it available elsewhere
like Netflix and other places.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
It's on Didney Place and Hulu streaming now.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah, Hulu streaming now. It is Oklahoma City bombing one
day in America. Director Kerrie is Fred, thank you so
much for joining us.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
We're all in this together. This is your morning show
with Michael hild Show Now
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