In the last episode of the season, DJ Jazzy Jeff and Crissle West talk to co-showrunners T.J. Brady and Rasheed Newson about the highlights of season one, and get a sneak peek at what’s coming in season two. Watch tensions explode as Will finally gets answers about his dad on the season finale of Bel-Air, streaming now on Peacock.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bellaire the Official Podcast is produced by I Heart Podcast
Network and Peacock. Hey, we're back with episode eight of
bell Air the Official Podcast. I am d J Jazzy Jeff,
and I'm Chrystal West. I'm so glad to be back
here with you. Jeff. We just watched the season finale
of Bellair. I can't believe the season is already over
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and flew by. What did you think? I am so
angry that this is over? But this has been an
amazing journey. I mean, these episodes are packed with everything.
It was filled with a lot of drama. Things were
emotional from the very beginning. We saw Will and Philip
Vill's art event Steel reconnecting with his brothers. Will telling
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Lisa how he felt. Did you see that coming? No?
I didn't see it coming, and I was excited because
it seemed like she was trying to receive it. And
then all hell broke loose. M yes, and speaking of hell,
we have got to talk of Lou. That was such
a build up to this reveal. I would love to
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get your thoughts on it, Jeff. Was this what you
thought it would be like between Lou and Will? Well?
I didn't know, and I think that was a good
sign of me just really curious of what this weird
dynamic that everybody was hiding from Will about. Lou I
thought it was really great at how complex they made
his character, you know, like his own father had been
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in jail and you know that had been so you know,
destructive to his relationship with his dad that he thought
staying away from Will was for Will's betterment, you know,
instead of you know, Will thinking that he's the dead
beat dad. It kind of showed two sides of the coin. Yeah,
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Will is dealing with the feeling of having been abandoned
by his father, um and then learning that there's more
to the story than just that. But you know, this
is a sticky situation. Lou has been gone for a
long time. He still has his feeling he's maybe not
emotionally mature enough to deal with Will's on you know,
feelings and anger and all that. So when the conversation
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shifts towards Vide and Loui is really critical of Vibe,
that's where Will was like, Okay, what you're not, don't
doubt about that's what you're dude. I'm grateful last never
appreciate watch your mouth talking about my mom one of
the truth. Boy, what's up? Being with your mama was worse?
Misteakot and made in my life better fun out talking
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my my mom like that. You better back up, take
that base out your voice or something jumping. Could you
touch him, Luke, I didn't come here to be disrespecting.
You earned the respect. I think you're the one that
came looking for me. Remember if I had him, would
you have showed up? She was one? Yeah, you're not
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gonna talk about her? And that was real because you
kind of saw them bonding a little bit that you
almost thought like, ok, you know now that Will knows
a little bit more of the truth, you know, maybe
he'll be a little bit more open to accepting his
dad in But once his dad crossed that line, he lost.
It was not trying to hear that at all. Such
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an incredible moment, and you know, as you as someone
who was part of the original cast, you know probably
better than anyone that's seen in the original show. Where
Will unleashes all that anger and hurt at his father
in that speech to Uncle Phil after Lou walked out
yet again, it was just such a seminal moment in
the series. What was it like for you to watch
Jabari Banks have his own version of that moment here?
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And do you think it was different seeing him being
able to direct that anger straight at Lou instead of
having Uncle Phil be that barrier for it. I think
definitely on this one. This wasn't the sitcom version. This
was the real life version. This is what would happen
in real life. You know, of these were raw emotions.
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You know that they were showing towards each other. I'm
not even gonna just give it to Will but lose perspective,
you know, right or wrong. Lou was showing that perspective
to Will, Will was showing it back. It was exactly
how it would be in real life, which I commend
this show for dotting eyes and crossing tees, you know
when it comes down to the realism of how these
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situations will be. Yeah, and a lot more custom than
you can get away with on network TV in the nineties. Yes, scene,
oh yeah, Will did not hold back well. Today we
will be looking back at highlights from this season and
getting a sneak peek of what we can expect in
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season two. That's right, Jeff, So let's start with you.
What were some of your favorite moments from the season, Well,
I mean I had a couple of them. I enjoyed Jazz,
of course. I enjoyed Jazz the fact that he had
his own record store. Um. I enjoyed the fact that
Jazz got to pursue his relationship with Hillary, and also
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that he kind of showed that he is this calming force.
It seems like with everybody, you know, I'm I'm gonna
check Hillary and tell her, you know, that she's better
than that and she needs to be, you know, doing more.
And I'm gonna pull Will aside and give will some
sound advice, whether it be on a basketball court, you know,
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or overlooking the city. You know. He has shown that
he's been there. Um. So I really enjoyed that relationship.
I agree. I think for me, can I say everything
because I have enjoyed so much of this, Yes, But
I think what has struck me the most is, as
crazy as it might sound to say, Carlton. Carlton was
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a character I could not from the very beginning, From
the very beginning with the Book of Sugar and everything,
I was like this boy. But what was so interesting
about Carlton was that although I could not stand the character.
I also felt like I could understand where he was
coming from, and I loved that he wasn't just a
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one note bad guy, you know, here to be the
villain and and rain on Will's parade. For the entire season,
we got to see the growth in Carlton, him overcoming
that initial jealousy and getting now to a place where
he is in a space of questioning his father, which
is something he probably was never really comfortable doing before,
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kind of would have just always taken his dad's word
for things and always trying to please him, always trying
to gain his approval. And now we see Carlton looking
his father dead in the eyes, hearing him tell a lie,
and choosing to go off and and help Will. And
when Will stormed out, slipping that money clip in his
pocket like like a loving cousin would do, it was
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just I think seeing Carlton's growth and progress has has
truly been one of the best things about this this season.
For me. Yeah. Yeah, It's It's a true sign of
a great actor or actress when fans don't like them
because of their performance, and you know, and Carlton was
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the one that no one liked and didn't realize that
you probably like him more than anybody else. I mean,
and we didn't like him for a good reason, but
you know, he had the chance to redeem himself and
I'm so glad he did. Um Well. Today, we are
so excited to welcome back co showrunners t J. Brady
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and Rashid Nusson, who are the perfect guest to have
for the finale because not only can they give us
some insight into some of these great moments from the season,
but also let us know what we can expect in
season two. They might be a little tight lipped, but
you know, just give us a little something. Oh yeah,
we can we even ask, you know. T J and
Rashid have been writing partners since two thousand eight. Together,
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they've written for and produced such shows as The one
hundred Army Wives, Shooter and The Shy Bellaire. Is their
first job as co showrunners, and we had great conversations
with these two on previous episodes. So I cannot wait
to talk to these guys again because I'm gonna find
out something about what's coming up in season two and
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I want to dig into that scene with Lou and Will.
So without further ado, here's our conversation with t J
and Rashid. We are so excited to be joined today
by t J. Brady and Rashid Newsom are show runners
of bel Air, and I have to say, first and
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foremost so impressed. Jeff, would you like to talk just
a little bit about that, since you know you were
part of the relation, just being being from the original cast,
not really knowing what to expect and then getting this.
It has so far exceeded any of my ex spectations.
This is you know, I've said this and saying it
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very honest. This is the best show on television right now.
And I am I am, I am extremely honored and
happy to have any kind of participation in this. This
would be the show that I would be watching and
binge watching every week. So to be able to watch
it and then talk about it is amazing, amazing. Congratulations
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to you guys. Thank you. I'm hearing that from you.
Jeff is is meta on Meta on Meta dream come true. Um,
thank you so much. Rashid and I have a great
team around us, from you know, him being on my team,
from our our partners and producing partners, to the entire crew.
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Everybody made this happen and I just feel blessed that
we could be a part of it. We had a
wonderful advantage that I didn't know we could count on.
But everybody who worked on this show, so the Fresh
Prince of bel Air, nobody was already a fan of
the original series of Betimes. You're on a show and
people aren't rowing in the same direction. They've got different
ideas about what the show should be and why we're here.
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And sometimes you have people want to show they're just
here for a paycheck, they're indifferent to what they're working on,
just just clocking in on clocking out. Everybody cared and
it showed and everyone's work. That's interesting because I was
just gonna ask what your experience has been like working
on the show with Morgan and the whole cast, and
it sounds like because everyone was a fan from the
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original Fresh Prince of the nineties, that things kind of
went in a more seamless direction than they would have otherwise. Well,
you mentioned working with Morgan. Morgan's trailer that went online
provided a visual template, a tone, a vibe did Most
shows struggle for half a season to find if they
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ever find it at all. We had it right out
the gate. Huge advantage, huge advantage. I mean, he gave
birth to the idea of this show, but he also
helped us, you know, with so many things right off
the bat that are up for debate that we're never
up for. Morgan's passion was contagious. I mean, everybody was,
everybody felt that they were working on something special. Um
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during the auditions, I had to stop watching the slates
because people people would be making a personal appeal about
I've got to play this character. I've got to play
this role. I was born to do this. God told
me in a dream, this role with Yea that I
just had to stop wat we heard, we heard those
d you know, you can only pick one person. But
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but people and every department came to this. It was
a passion project, and you normally don't get an entire
cast and crew that feels that way about what they're making. Yeah,
but I also think that, you know, that's great to
have that in the beginning, but then to deliver on that,
like from the very first episode, you guys delivered it,
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and it was it was eye popping that you know,
I'm watching this and asking myself, have I ever seen
anything this authentic on television, you know, especially me coming
from Philly, me being one of the original cast. I'm
looking at a real life version of the Fresh Prince
of bel Air. Yeah, I mean, that's why it was
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important to us to go to Philly. I mean, you
see six in market right up there on this. I
mean we were at market and right off the side
of where the camera is pointing. I mean, the community
came out and supported. They couldn't be more excited and
just engaging that community from the beginning and not not
faking it, you know, letting everybody know this is Philly,
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this is West Philly. We were not trying to paper
over that. We are here sweating because it was hot.
I'm glad we went, but a little behind the scenes.
That was not an easy call in the middle of
a pandemic. I mean, you got it, you. I mean
the meetings we had to have about Okay, we're gonna
take number one on the call sheet to Philadelphia. What
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are you gonna do if he catches COVID and what
I mean we're supposed to come back to l A
and start shooting on Monday. What are you gonna do
if he gets if he if he catches COVID, what's
our backup plan? And and so you're just talking about
all these protocols to keep him safe, to keep everybody safe,
the crew. It was a very risky move, but artistically
we had to argue we've got to go there. We
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just I mean, if we try to shoot Philadelphia on
the back, loot in l all the audience right, and
you're already in the hole. Yeah, And the authenticity is
very much appreciated. It shines through in the series over
and over. So if we can, I would love to
dive into this finale. It was not short on the trauma,
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the mess, the excitement. A lot of that is surrounding
lou Will's dad, who, of course, in the original Fresh
Prince didn't appear until a few seasons, And I'd love
to hear why you why you guys decided to introduce
him now and at such a moment for Will Well,
I mean, you know, a lot goes into that discussion,
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A lot of mention had been made here and there.
You know Will not having a father, you know, right
in the beginning in the pilot, him looking at Phil
going I'm not your son, you know, like letting us
know in subtle ways that this was a core wound
for this character that maybe you know, explained a lot
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of things and actions he was doing, um, and bringing
it to a head of he's in a good place
with the bank's family. Um. But then the scab gets
ripped off of that core wound and he finds out
that you know, his history, that that history he's been
given is not the truth. And what's he going to
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do with that? We just thought is storytellers, there was
a good place to shift the rama of getting this
young man to a good place where the family and
find out that they haven't been given him the real
truth all these years. It's also a way to continue
that the story we're telling about will shifting identity. I mean,
this is this is still a fish out of water story.
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This is still a story about a young man who's
learning who he is and that definition is expanding. So
in the beginning he's saying, I'm from West Philly, I'm
not bel Air. Well, through the season we get him
to reconcile that another thing he believes about himself is
my father abandoned me and and and left me. Well,
we've got to flip that on its head too. He
has to redefine who he is, and it gives us
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something to work on going into season two. I mean,
we were very lucky to have a two season order.
It meant that we knew we'd be able to continue
storylines beyond this this first ten episodes, and so Lose
great for us because it really supercharges us. I mean,
we have to come back next season and put this
family back together, and we'll have to put him elf
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back together. So it gives us a great way to
kind of end the season. I thought it was great because,
you know, in the original version of the show, the
moment with Will and Uncle Phil and his father was
so iconic, like that resonated with everybody. How much of
that scene was in your mind when you kind of
scripted Jabari because Jabari went ham on his dad, he
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went I was sitting in like wow. I mean it
shows it shows how much hurt and pain, sense of
loss had been in that the character of that young
man all these years. It was also a lot of
in the room. I mean we I mean this, we
knew what we were playing with, and we you know,
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as you go through the episode, there's a moment where
they're kind of getting along like they're bonding and we're going, well,
what's going to be the trip wire? And it's like, oh,
well he should say something about his mother, like, well,
not gonna stand for that. You're not gonna You're not
gonna bad mount my mama. It's also not taking responsibility,
like she's the one who pushed me to household. She's
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the one who did. Like even like he couldn't take
responsibility for the choices he made to put him in prison,
for the choices he made to not see his son
or reach out to his son all these years. And
then he's going to put it on you know, Will's
mom wrong answer, and we wanted to do it, but
we also knew we had to put our own spin
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on it. So what's great about the one where when
Ben Vereen comes in and plays Will's dad is it
leads to this great hug between Uncle Phil and Will.
It's it is their bonding moment. Yeah, that's not what's
happening in this episode. You know, he's like, I'm actually
pissed at you out too. You should be, I mean
I want you to be. I want everybody to be upset.
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It's kind of like the thing I'll say is if
you look at how we started the season with Carlton
and the way it made people feel, and you start
to see the shift to how people are starting to
feel about Carlton right about now. It's different. Like I
said in an interview the other day, as storytellers, our
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enemy is apathy. We want people to feel something, whether
it's happy, sad, anger, joy, whatever, it is the biggest thing.
I mean, I find myself turning off shows in the middle.
You know, I'll be watching someone with my wife, I'll
turn off and I'll just I'll say, I just don't care.
But if you're mad, you care. We relished working on
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these scenes and put a lot into them. I have
never worked on any set of pages that got more
scrutiny all around me. Everybody from the studios to the network.
We're reading these pages between Will and lou and questioning
what are we doing and investing and it was saying, oh, man,
are we really gonna blow this family up? And yet
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to remind everybody, we're coming back next season. We can
put it back together, all right. And some people were saying, well,
should Will really be mad at them? And I loved
it because we had a meeting and I can't. I
think it might have been Morgan who just sort of said,
Will is a seventeen year old boy. Yes, he gets
to be angry, he gets to displace his anger. Maybe
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in you know, season two, he'll realize I overreacted, but
for this moment, he can be mad at everybody. Yes,
and yeah he right. First of all, he was he
did not hold back um. And also I love that
we got to see a teenage black boy let his
emotions out without grown people swinging on him or you know,
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stepping out of you know, I feel like we have
a lot of conversations about children staying in a child's place,
but adults are the ones who need to know their places. Like,
you're the adult here, You're the one whose brain is
fully formed. You're the one who needs to have, you know,
self control. Catty was great about that because you know,
when he kind of going at them in the foy,
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you know, I talked to her and she was like,
you know, she goes, what makes this moment hurt? Is
I have to eat this? Yeah? Yeah, yeah for ten
years I did. I mean, I have to just sit
in this even though it's really hard to hear and
I think she plays it so beautifully. And she says
that her character Viv says to Lou after he goes off,
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goes off and drops some really hard language at Lou.
She says, Lou, he's just a boy. If you care
about him, to give him a little time and talk
to him again. And of course, the character we set
up in Lou like he made his choice. He's got
to live with the consequences because Lu is not in
a place. You know, at that point, Lou is really
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not mature enough to accept that you know his son's feelings.
So we talked about that in the room too. I mean,
you know you can't. It's hard to just show up
and just start being a parent. I mean, this is
like you've been gone for a long time. You know.
You gotta put that working day and day out year
after year, and so Lu doesn't really have the capacity
to be who will needs him to be. And you're
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not showing up to a parent the four year old
that you left. This is a boy who's almost grown
and and has been through a lot without you. And
I love that you all switched it up from Lou
just being a deadbeat like he was in the original
to him having a more complex story here, a story
that Will himself even felt a lot of empathy for
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his dad. You know, he was in jail. He had
these priors that made it harder for him to stay out.
His own dad had been in jail, which hurt their relationships.
So he didn't want Will to see him like that.
Why did you all decide to go this route with
the character? And do you do you think we'll see
him again? Because honestly, to me, that last line of
you know, he'll have to deal with the consequences, I
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felt a little ominous. I was like, now, wait a minute,
you just gotta give him a little time. Came here
to make things right for that boy, but he made
his choice. Now he's gonna be the one that has
to live with the consequences, not me. I think over
the course of you know, hopefully five six, seven seasons. Oh,
we want to see him. First of all, we love
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Marlon is a person and an actor, and working at
him was fantastic. That reveal was great. I was a
little nervous because he walked in and you couldn't tell
who it was until he turned around, and it was
just like, that's lou hopefully we'll see him again. That's
that's all I can say, and making no promises, but
in our hearts would love to love to see him again.
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But I'll just as a peek behind the curtain. There
was even a story like the one we had. There
was a great deal of debate in the writer's room
and and all along the chain, because there's a version
of the story we talked about doing where v decided
I'm not taking my little boy down to the prison
to see his father behind glass. That she was the
one who said, I'm not I'm not gonna put that.
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I'm not gonna have that in his head. And we
went back and forth between what that meant and who
would be to blame, and that version sort of took
Lou off the hook if I was the one to say, well,
I'm gonna disconnect you from your son, and we wanted,
we wanted Lou to own more of what he'd done.
So that's why we landed where we landed. So was
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that the point of making lose character and his back
story so much more complex than he was in the original.
Was it to kind of get Will to see that
things weren't always as he thought and you know, even
the people that he thought he could trust the most
had sort of been lying to him all this time,
Like what was what was the reason for that development?
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We wanted to give everybody a compelling reason to make
a tough choice. Um, you know, you don't want to
have to tell a four year old, well, your daddy's
in prison and he doesn't want to see you, right,
I mean, what how will he handle that? So it
was sort of easier to just let it drift away.
He's gone, baby, and I don't know when he's coming back.
But when you tell that lie, how do you will?
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At what age do you go? Hey, seven year old,
you know what I told you? When you well, your
dad is actually in jail and he doesn't want to
see Well, seven is still a little young, right, Like
that would be hard for a seven year old to take.
Let's wait a few more years, and you keep waiting
and waiting and waiting and wait. And that's what happened
with Viv v and Phil. I mean, that's why we
have those debates. When Vai came out to visit and
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she said to Viv, I think I might tell him
about his father. They said, well, he might hate us.
You know. Well, I mean, and that it's interesting because
I don't think there's any good age to tell a
kid your father would prefer to not see you. Um,
but I love that, you know. You guys also made
it that Lou had been out of jail for three
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years and so had the opportunity to find at some
point over these past three years and simply did not
do it. So again it comes back on Lu, like,
why are you making these decisions and needing to be
accountable for what he has done? It? It's complicated. Yeah,
what hopefully back is pride. His pride gets in the
way of him doing what he's supposed to do, which
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is not unlike his son. We're in Will is living
in bel air because pride led him out to that
basketball course, because you just let it go. So as
much as Will may rail against his father, there there
are connections between them. But you know, Will is at
least seventeen, so right, I mean the thing. The thing is,
so we wanted to make it complicated and messy because
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real life is complicated and messy. Um. You know, in
a sitcom you have to make it quick, you have
to make it clearly understandable. We need things in a
drama that take a while to figure out and take
a while to unpack. And and you know, we're not
doing a crime procedural drama where every forty two minutes
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we find the killer and put him in jail. You know,
we gotta go on and on and on, and so
all these issues were talking about right now are conversations
that are going to continue into the second season because
good news, people, we got our second season. Yeah, it's happening.
And one of the things we do with characters like Lou,
because it's very easy to look at Lou through Will's eyes,
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are the people we know. But you have to ask yourself,
what's the story. Lou tells himself, what's the heroic version
of this? Lou, in his mind thinks, I did my
son a favor. I did not burn him with this legacy.
I did not burn him with having to see me
like this, which is what my father did to me,
and I feel that it held me back. I cut
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you say, cut you loose, I say, I cut you free.
That is what he believes, and so that gave us
a lot to work with in those scenes. And that's real,
that is real, that happens a lot of times that
two people you know, believe that they're doing the right thing,
and they're doing completely different, opposite versions of that thing
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that you know, each of them say that the other
is wrong. It was born out of a real We
got one of the writers in our room, right, Rashid
from his father was a prison guard who had seen
this type of thing where people don't bring the child
back here, but my heart can't take it, and I
don't think they should see it either, don't bring the
child back down here. Well, yeah, so difficult conversations that
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you know are leading to a lot of drama and fireworks.
This episode had so much of that, plus this great
cliffhanger where we don't know what Will's next move is
gonna be um and it also touched on so many
of the themes and relationships that we have been talking
about throughout the season. So I want to switch to
Phil and Viv and talk about them a little bit.
The episode starts off showing us how their dynamics have come,
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you know, full circle in a way. She's shining as
an artist and he just gets to kind of sit
back in the background and and beam and be proud
of her and support her. We see his friendly exchanges
with his alpha bros. And he seems to kind of
come back to remember who he used to be, you know,
when he was Yamacra, before he was you know, the
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man he has become. So can you all talk about
the journey that Phil and Viv have gone through the season,
both individually and as a unit. I mean, as a unit,
they've basically swapped places. When the season started, Viv was
in the background and Phil it was his fundraiser. He's this,
you know, the candidate, and people are donating and he's
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going to do all these great things. By the end,
Viv is the center of attention and he's in the
back and you know, people asking him because remember the
episode before he stepped down out of the d A
Race two preserve the secret of what he did for
will and to protect his family. I can say this,
I mean, Phil is still a little in shock from
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that in this episode unfamiliar. This is a man who
has never lost in his life, you know, and even
though he got out of the race willingly, he did
not accomplish his goal. And so there's gonna be a
lot for us to unpack going into season two. With
that feeling in his soul and with Viv taken off
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like a rocket. I think it's been fun to watch
them navigate. They're they're competing ambitions, and I think we're
having a very honest conversation about the fact that it's
hard for both of us. Can't go out there and
be the lead singer. Somebody got sing back up, Ye,
Who's who's it comed be? And some marriages they take
turns and some somebody kind of always is the lead.
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It's been great to watch I think this evolution. I mean,
these are the little things that we kind of geek
out on as a writer. But when you look at
Phil's party, it was during the day, it was outside,
brightly lit, and it wasn't a fun party. Everybody kept
telling you it wasn't a fun party. Whereas this one
with with on Viv, it's at night, it's indoors, it's sexy,
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it's dark, and it's artwork and there are stars there.
Everybody is ignoring themselves, and so I just I love
that flip that they went to a world that was
a little bit it had more soul than the one
they had been inhabiting. And that's also a sort of
a metaphor for Will walking into their life. We were
we were sort of somewhere sterile and artificial before he
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got here, and now we're back to our roots were
tapped in again. Yeah, but you know, I did my
heart broke for Will, just because the sheer number of
emotions he went through, and then that feeling of like
maybe a little bit of hopefulness when you see him
and lou on the couch and it looks like, you know,
they're bonding over the sixes game and maybe things are
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gonna be okay, And then Loose starts talking about Will's
mother and all hell breaks loose, and so you know,
he ends up feeling not just rejected by his father
or betrayed by his father, but also lied to, but
all by all the adults that he loves and trust
who are supposed to be looking out for him. So
maybe you all can't talk about it too much, but
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I would love to know, like the impact of this
moment meeting his father and and and the reject from
the parentals, how much of that are we going to
discover and and dive deeper into in season two. It's
where we have to pick up the story because here
was this young man who came to them very guarded,
and he let his guards down. He let himself become
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a part of this family, and he trusted them in
ways that he had not trusted probably anyone except his mama.
And now I found out you've been playing me, you
lie to me, Um, I think it's gonna be very
hard for them to rebuild those bonds and to re
earn that trust again. And let's not forget there came
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a time over the course of the season they had
decided we'll just not tell him, We'll just not tell him.
There were a couple of times over the season he
asked his aunt and uncle and his mom point blank,
what's the deal with my father? And they did not.
I mean, as a seventeen year old, he asked them,
looking them in the eye, and they had a chance,
and they didn't. I mean, Phil went so far as
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to fire Jeffrey insanity. And now they know, now they
know that this wasn't a family emergency. And and you know,
and Phil directly to Carlton's face too. And when Carlton
looked him in the eye just like Will did and
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received that lie back from his dad, I think that
was a huge moment, and it was really reflective of
how Carlton and Will's relationship has changed so much over
the season. My god, Carlton public enemy number one when
we started the season. Yeah, yeah, and so can we
talk a little bit about that relationship and the changing
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dynamics between them? Yeah. I mean, look, when when Will
showed up at that party, we all remember the look
on Carlton's face. Pilot uh and talking to Lisa and
just you know, push his Will in the pool at
the end of the pilot because he's with Lisa and
they hate each other and fist fight, and by the end,
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Carlton is that Lisa's door with tears in his eyes,
begging her to help him get Will back. I need
you to help me find Well, he's gone missing. Missing. Yeah,
he left a few hours ago and no one knows
where he is. He stood me up today, Carlton, after
he told me he loved me. He stood me up.
His dad showed up at the house today. Oh my god. Yeah.
And it was bad, Lisa, it was so bad. It's
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like everything that he was afraid of about his father
is true, but it's somehow worse because my parents had
been lying to him this whole time. I think it
was all too much for him to take. And so
he ran away and and I don't know if he's
going to come back, so you have to help me
find him. Lease. He never turned his back on me,
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and I needed that and I needed that. No, so
please please help me find him, please Jesus. Also, Carlton
is the one who delivers when you say, well goes
are out asking this question, who is my father? Who?
If I asked Jeffrey, Jeffrey gets fired. Carlton is the
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one who carries that ball across across the goal line.
He's the one who says, here, I'm putting the answers
in your hand. I am defining my father. I'm in
his office. I am getting this for you, and I
know it's gonna be rough, but here you go. I mean,
Will takes it and says I don't want to open this,
and Cardon does you gotta? I mean, he gives he
He does the thing that that I think Jeffrey told
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fails to do, which is you should have given him
the encouragement to open this thing. Carlton comes through for well.
I love that, Yes he does. So we feel that's
that whole relationship has taken on an amazing arc and
hopefully the viewers on an amazing ride with how they
feel about carl the character of Carlton, oh completely, because
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I couldn't said, yeah, listen, I've always said when you
don't like a character, that means they're doing their job,
because that's not actually who you know. Only is for
everyone to have this hatred In the first few episodes
of Oh my God, I hate Carlton. I hate Carlton.
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I hate Carlton, and then you see the sentiment just
kind of change. You know, well, Carlton is going through
some things and to watch this go full circle is
absolutely amazing. Yeah, and we we love him as a
person as an actor and just he has shown amazing
poise and strength of character dealing with a lot of
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the crazy that has been thrown at him online and
uh like a pro. Like a pro because he is
a pro. And it is exciting because now we're at
that point where we can play the friendship of it
all like they can be ado. I'm looking forward to
season two where you can put you know, Will, Carlton
and Jazz together out there, like just have the three
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of the and and tearing out. I mean like now,
like it's like, oh, now we get to tell those stories,
and it feels think a little earned because you know,
you know, they've been through some things now, I mean
they've been between nine and ten, they were really there
for each other, and I think that bond now allows
us to have a great place to go in season two.
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We have to talk about Jazz and Hillary. We absolutely
have to talk about Jazz and Hilly. So I was
it was mind blowing to see them kiss earlier in
the season. I was kind of like, Okay, didn't get
a chance to do that, but I get it. Um.
But we see the way that Jazz supports, you know,
Hillary in her career and pushes her to be you know,
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like be your true self. Um. At the end of
the episode, she takes advice and it looks like this
is gonna pay off. What was the decision to finally
bring these two together? Um? And I'm really curious, you know,
once again, since we talked about season two, um, where
that relationship is going to go. Well, I mean one
of the reasons that happened, I mean we were we
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had talked about teasing it. The chemistry between Coco and
Jordan's was so good. We were like, we can't run
away from this. Yeah, yeah, I mean because we're not
playing for laughs, like we're playing for drama and intrigue
and people leaning forward. That's where it went. You know,
we hadn't meeting like the in Jazz's record store, and
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you know, we had a couple of scenes and we
wanted to just sort of have a little bit of
chemistry and fun. But it was so good you're like, oh,
we we we can't, we can't not go there. It
also was great to have a relationship that in a
lot of ways on paper looks like it shouldn't work.
And I won't even get into people online like the
height difference people, and so I kind of enjoy watching
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this couple that you go, well, why does this work?
But it works? And we also though it works, but
we want people to ask how long can this work?
You know, her background, his background, where she lives, what
she does, where he lives, what he does. You know,
they're gonna have fun, but there are when you get
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in a relationship and you get past the brand new phase,
there are things to figure out, and that's where it's
going in season two. Yeah, I mean I like playing
with just thinking of like who are their exes? And
what does that look like? Hillary is active. I mean,
it's private planes, it's trips to Dubade, you know, and
and and it's like, you know, you kind of go
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with your Jazz, Well, how long is she gonna be
happy with me taking her too? You know Roscoe's chicken
and water, Like when does she you know? And and
it's it's kind of nice to maybe have Hillary say, well,
actually I love this. I know you think I want that,
but I'm happy here. Um. I think We've got a
lot of story to tell with them. I'm really excited
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about them in season two. Yeah, and I love that
we get more of Jazz as a character. We see him,
like Jeff was just saying, pushing Hillary um to be
more independent, um, more forthright too, to see herself as
like an equal player in this influencer game, and to
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not feel so intimidated by Karachi's character. And then also
at the end of the episode, when Jazz and Will
are looking out over l A and and Jazz, you know,
they bring up the whole part about not letting l
A forget who you are. But then also like you
can also reconcile. You know where you came from, where
you are now, and you can take this opportunity to
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have this life that can be better than what it
was before. And that theme of achieving success while staying
true to who you are has really been at the
heart of the show this season. How do you think
that pushing poll has affected Will throughout the season and
some of the other members of the family like Hillary
or viv It never goes away, particularly I think if
you're I think if you're black, I mean, the higher
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you go, it's still a pushing pull of you know,
how much of my authentic self can I get to be?
Or you know, I'm trying to I'm trying to get
over I'm trying to achieve. Should I tone this down?
Should I hold this back? Am I always going to
speak my mind? Those questions never go away. And it's
great to meet somebody young and talented and to watch
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him navigate that every time he sort of moves up
in life. I mean, so, I think that is a
series long theme and struggle for the character. We see
it all the time. I mean, you know, most of
the people of our generation, Rashid who we work with
and stuff nobody's from l A, you know, and so
you get a lot of people there's a fun push
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and pull of discussion, people just constantly repping their hometown
all the time, but living here, um, you know, I
find myself doing that sometimes and then I'm like, if
it's so great, why am I hearing? How did I
leave you? I'm in that min order of people who
eagerly shed where I came from. I was like, I
don't mean, but never speak of India. I mean, but
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it's like, I love where I come from, but I
don't live there, So there's something, you know. Yeah, And
so it's because I need to be who I really
am and I and do what I want to do,
and I couldn't do that there. And it's just so
I can still be myself and proud of who I
am as a person, but I don't need to to
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stay in one place geographically to feel authentic. And that's
what it takes the maturity to figure that out. I think, yes,
it does well. The other thing I think is hard
is you're from a place at a particular time, enough
years go by, you're a stranger to that land too.
All the stories are gone at some point the connection
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probably dies and that's hard to admit and reconcile, but
that's how time works. It just you know you're You're
from Warwick, graduated high school and nothing. Oh man, well, gentlemen,
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I have to say again, what an incredible job on
season one. We are so looking forward to season two
and since this was the finale, we do want to
share some love from the Fantasist season. One person on
Twitter said they need to just clear bell Air for
five seasons. Jeffrey needs a spinoff. I want to see
him go on missions. They might have taken that from
my Twitter because I feel like Jeffrey's a secret agent
(42:29):
because we can. I want to find out more about
how Jeffrey got all the links, all the connections and
can seem to do anything. People love that character and
I we want to explore that to Jimmy is great
as an actor, and the trick of that role is
he's not actually telling you that much. He's not revealing
that much, but you can feel all of this playing absolutely.
(42:51):
You also got some love for the dramatic reimagination of
the series. This one says Bellair is well done. A
reimagined shouldn't be a mimicry at an homage and an evolution.
It's a different show, but the roots of tenderness and
family are clear. The spirit is there, and I love
its nuanced portrayal of black masculinity. Could not agree more. Yes,
(43:12):
thank you for reading that. Yeah, I was gonna say
those people peered into my heart. I mean, that's exactly
what we hope to do. I know for a fact,
Rashid and I all the time talk about how grateful
we are for people's reaction to this show, and and
and grateful that the people tuned who tuned in wanting
to hate it I have come around and admit, you know,
(43:37):
is pretty good. Give it a chance. That's the thing
I'm most proud of. It's hard to overcome that initial barrier.
And because of the cast we have, the team we have,
and and you know, Morgan's vision and and everybody up
and down the chain, we were able to do it.
It's rare thing in Hollywood. I'm gonna savor every second
of it. Yeah, and we love and respect the fans
(43:59):
of the show. Is it's it's a big commitment. Thank
you for giving us ten hours of your time. Yes,
I mean you could certainly know, you had a lot
of options, and it's that we're glad people invested in
the show and continue to invest in this show. Let
me just say that All Pro linebacker Khalil Mack said
he was watching bel Air when he found out he
(44:20):
was being traded to the Chargers like and he and
he called it a strange coincidence. So you know, you
have everybody watching this show and on the edge of
their seats. And what I will say is every episode
had its thing. Episode eight, nine, and ten, oh you
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smacked it out the park. I felt. I really felt
like nine could have been the season finality, and I
was saying, I need to see what they're going to
do intend And the way that you round it tend
up the fact that one of the early scenes was
Jazz and Will overlooking l A and Jazz telling him
(45:01):
not to lose himself. That in scene with Jazz saying
the exact same thing, I was like, oh my god,
talk about a full circle moment. Did you hear the
song playing? Yes, I know what I said, It's gonna
be dreams of Nightmares. But the flip side of it,
at the beginning, you know we're playing you know, yes,
(45:23):
playing the wait a minute part and this started with
our piano, you know, and that iconic song for that
iconic moment, not back to Philly. I mean, it just
it felt really good. You live for moments like that
in a room like we kind of knew we had
that in our pocket, and you just I mean, it
becomes this whole thing where you're just waiting months. You
(45:44):
can't wait for the rest of the world to see it.
We're finally here. Yeah, Well, speaking of how bad we
can't wait to see it, is there anything I mean,
just give us a drop, any kind of tease we
can get for season two, please the people that thirsty.
I think we've got to reassemble this family. I think
you're gonna see a family having to pull it back together.
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I think you're gonna see Will sort of regressing a
little bit. He's he's a little angry, he feels he's
been hurt, and um, I think we're gonna bring I think,
I mean, what we're always trying to do is sort
of expand our canvas and meet more people in the
lives of the Bank's family. So I think we'll have
some great cameos and some great appearances in season two.
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And I would like to say, um, We're going to
continue to explore some iconic locations in l A, but
different parts of l A than we've seen this season.
That's all I'm gonna say. Okay, okay, well you know
I'm gonna be thinking a lot about it till season two.
It's us again on Peacock. Rashid Nussen, t J Brady,
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thank you so so much for your time today and
for your excellent work on this series. Gradually incredibly well done.
Oh man, Jeff, what a great conversation we have with
t J and Rashid. I'm so excited for what is
to come. It has been such an honor and such
a pleasure to work with you, the icon himself, the
(47:08):
DJ Jazzy Jeff on this show. Um, as you as
part of the original cast and hearing your perspective in
your opinion on things, this has just been such a
fulfilling experience. Yeah, this has been amazing for me. Um,
just being a part of the original show, not really
knowing what they expect and then getting your socks blown
off basically from the quality the authenticity of this show.
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And to be a part of the podcast. Listen, I
am I'm in heaven right now. I just can't wait
to season two because season one knocked it out of
the park. Yeah, I cannot wait to see what they
do going forward. If you have not already, you can
check out all episodes of bell Air season one streaming
now on Peacock. Bellair, the official podcast is produced by
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I Heart Podcast Network and Peacock. This show is ho
did by me, DJ Jazzy Jeff and by Me Chris
the West, supervising producer Mike Coscarelli, producer and mastering engineer
by he Crazier. Executive producers from My Heart are Nicky Etre,
Hona Stump, and Miles Gray. Executive producers from Peacock are
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Lindsay Vogelman and Amber Ferguson. And special thanks to Will
Pearson from I Heeart and Michael Scoggin from PECAU
Bellaire the Official Podcast is produced by I Heart Podcast
Network and Peacock. Hey, we're back with episode eight of
bell Air the Official Podcast. I am d J Jazzy Jeff,
and I'm Chrystal West. I'm so glad to be back
here with you. Jeff. We just watched the season finale
of Bellair. I can't believe the season is already over
(00:21):
and flew by. What did you think? I am so
angry that this is over? But this has been an
amazing journey. I mean, these episodes are packed with everything.
It was filled with a lot of drama. Things were
emotional from the very beginning. We saw Will and Philip
Vill's art event Steel reconnecting with his brothers. Will telling
(00:43):
Lisa how he felt. Did you see that coming? No?
I didn't see it coming, and I was excited because
it seemed like she was trying to receive it. And
then all hell broke loose. M yes, and speaking of hell,
we have got to talk of Lou. That was such
a build up to this reveal. I would love to
(01:04):
get your thoughts on it, Jeff. Was this what you
thought it would be like between Lou and Will? Well?
I didn't know, and I think that was a good
sign of me just really curious of what this weird
dynamic that everybody was hiding from Will about. Lou I
thought it was really great at how complex they made
his character, you know, like his own father had been
(01:26):
in jail and you know that had been so you know,
destructive to his relationship with his dad that he thought
staying away from Will was for Will's betterment, you know,
instead of you know, Will thinking that he's the dead
beat dad. It kind of showed two sides of the coin. Yeah,
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Will is dealing with the feeling of having been abandoned
by his father, um and then learning that there's more
to the story than just that. But you know, this
is a sticky situation. Lou has been gone for a
long time. He still has his feeling he's maybe not
emotionally mature enough to deal with Will's on you know,
feelings and anger and all that. So when the conversation
(02:08):
shifts towards Vide and Loui is really critical of Vibe,
that's where Will was like, Okay, what you're not, don't
doubt about that's what you're dude. I'm grateful last never
appreciate watch your mouth talking about my mom one of
the truth. Boy, what's up? Being with your mama was worse?
Misteakot and made in my life better fun out talking
(02:30):
my my mom like that. You better back up, take
that base out your voice or something jumping. Could you
touch him, Luke, I didn't come here to be disrespecting.
You earned the respect. I think you're the one that
came looking for me. Remember if I had him, would
you have showed up? She was one? Yeah, you're not
(02:52):
gonna talk about her? And that was real because you
kind of saw them bonding a little bit that you
almost thought like, ok, you know now that Will knows
a little bit more of the truth, you know, maybe
he'll be a little bit more open to accepting his
dad in But once his dad crossed that line, he lost.
It was not trying to hear that at all. Such
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an incredible moment, and you know, as you as someone
who was part of the original cast, you know probably
better than anyone that's seen in the original show. Where
Will unleashes all that anger and hurt at his father
in that speech to Uncle Phil after Lou walked out
yet again, it was just such a seminal moment in
the series. What was it like for you to watch
Jabari Banks have his own version of that moment here?
(03:37):
And do you think it was different seeing him being
able to direct that anger straight at Lou instead of
having Uncle Phil be that barrier for it. I think
definitely on this one. This wasn't the sitcom version. This
was the real life version. This is what would happen
in real life. You know, of these were raw emotions.
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You know that they were showing towards each other. I'm
not even gonna just give it to Will but lose perspective,
you know, right or wrong. Lou was showing that perspective
to Will, Will was showing it back. It was exactly
how it would be in real life, which I commend
this show for dotting eyes and crossing tees, you know
when it comes down to the realism of how these
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situations will be. Yeah, and a lot more custom than
you can get away with on network TV in the nineties. Yes, scene,
oh yeah, Will did not hold back well. Today we
will be looking back at highlights from this season and
getting a sneak peek of what we can expect in
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season two. That's right, Jeff, So let's start with you.
What were some of your favorite moments from the season, Well,
I mean I had a couple of them. I enjoyed Jazz,
of course. I enjoyed Jazz the fact that he had
his own record store. Um. I enjoyed the fact that
Jazz got to pursue his relationship with Hillary, and also
(05:02):
that he kind of showed that he is this calming force.
It seems like with everybody, you know, I'm I'm gonna
check Hillary and tell her, you know, that she's better
than that and she needs to be, you know, doing more.
And I'm gonna pull Will aside and give will some
sound advice, whether it be on a basketball court, you know,
(05:23):
or overlooking the city. You know. He has shown that
he's been there. Um. So I really enjoyed that relationship.
I agree. I think for me, can I say everything
because I have enjoyed so much of this, Yes, But
I think what has struck me the most is, as
crazy as it might sound to say, Carlton. Carlton was
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a character I could not from the very beginning, From
the very beginning with the Book of Sugar and everything,
I was like this boy. But what was so interesting
about Carlton was that although I could not stand the character.
I also felt like I could understand where he was
coming from, and I loved that he wasn't just a
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one note bad guy, you know, here to be the
villain and and rain on Will's parade. For the entire season,
we got to see the growth in Carlton, him overcoming
that initial jealousy and getting now to a place where
he is in a space of questioning his father, which
is something he probably was never really comfortable doing before,
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kind of would have just always taken his dad's word
for things and always trying to please him, always trying
to gain his approval. And now we see Carlton looking
his father dead in the eyes, hearing him tell a lie,
and choosing to go off and and help Will. And
when Will stormed out, slipping that money clip in his
pocket like like a loving cousin would do, it was
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just I think seeing Carlton's growth and progress has has
truly been one of the best things about this this season.
For me. Yeah. Yeah, It's It's a true sign of
a great actor or actress when fans don't like them
because of their performance, and you know, and Carlton was
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the one that no one liked and didn't realize that
you probably like him more than anybody else. I mean,
and we didn't like him for a good reason, but
you know, he had the chance to redeem himself and
I'm so glad he did. Um Well. Today, we are
so excited to welcome back co showrunners t J. Brady
(07:36):
and Rashid Nusson, who are the perfect guest to have
for the finale because not only can they give us
some insight into some of these great moments from the season,
but also let us know what we can expect in
season two. They might be a little tight lipped, but
you know, just give us a little something. Oh yeah,
we can we even ask, you know. T J and
Rashid have been writing partners since two thousand eight. Together,
(07:59):
they've written for and produced such shows as The one
hundred Army Wives, Shooter and The Shy Bellaire. Is their
first job as co showrunners, and we had great conversations
with these two on previous episodes. So I cannot wait
to talk to these guys again because I'm gonna find
out something about what's coming up in season two and
(08:20):
I want to dig into that scene with Lou and Will.
So without further ado, here's our conversation with t J
and Rashid. We are so excited to be joined today
by t J. Brady and Rashid Newsom are show runners
of bel Air, and I have to say, first and
(08:42):
foremost so impressed. Jeff, would you like to talk just
a little bit about that, since you know you were
part of the relation, just being being from the original cast,
not really knowing what to expect and then getting this.
It has so far exceeded any of my ex spectations.
This is you know, I've said this and saying it
(09:04):
very honest. This is the best show on television right now.
And I am I am, I am extremely honored and
happy to have any kind of participation in this. This
would be the show that I would be watching and
binge watching every week. So to be able to watch
it and then talk about it is amazing, amazing. Congratulations
(09:27):
to you guys. Thank you. I'm hearing that from you.
Jeff is is meta on Meta on Meta dream come true. Um,
thank you so much. Rashid and I have a great
team around us, from you know, him being on my team,
from our our partners and producing partners, to the entire crew.
(09:49):
Everybody made this happen and I just feel blessed that
we could be a part of it. We had a
wonderful advantage that I didn't know we could count on.
But everybody who worked on this show, so the Fresh
Prince of bel Air, nobody was already a fan of
the original series of Betimes. You're on a show and
people aren't rowing in the same direction. They've got different
ideas about what the show should be and why we're here.
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And sometimes you have people want to show they're just
here for a paycheck, they're indifferent to what they're working on,
just just clocking in on clocking out. Everybody cared and
it showed and everyone's work. That's interesting because I was
just gonna ask what your experience has been like working
on the show with Morgan and the whole cast, and
it sounds like because everyone was a fan from the
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original Fresh Prince of the nineties, that things kind of
went in a more seamless direction than they would have otherwise. Well,
you mentioned working with Morgan. Morgan's trailer that went online
provided a visual template, a tone, a vibe did Most
shows struggle for half a season to find if they
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ever find it at all. We had it right out
the gate. Huge advantage, huge advantage. I mean, he gave
birth to the idea of this show, but he also
helped us, you know, with so many things right off
the bat that are up for debate that we're never
up for. Morgan's passion was contagious. I mean, everybody was,
everybody felt that they were working on something special. Um
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during the auditions, I had to stop watching the slates
because people people would be making a personal appeal about
I've got to play this character. I've got to play
this role. I was born to do this. God told
me in a dream, this role with Yea that I
just had to stop wat we heard, we heard those
d you know, you can only pick one person. But
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but people and every department came to this. It was
a passion project, and you normally don't get an entire
cast and crew that feels that way about what they're making. Yeah,
but I also think that, you know, that's great to
have that in the beginning, but then to deliver on that,
like from the very first episode, you guys delivered it,
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and it was it was eye popping that you know,
I'm watching this and asking myself, have I ever seen
anything this authentic on television, you know, especially me coming
from Philly, me being one of the original cast. I'm
looking at a real life version of the Fresh Prince
of bel Air. Yeah, I mean, that's why it was
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important to us to go to Philly. I mean, you
see six in market right up there on this. I
mean we were at market and right off the side
of where the camera is pointing. I mean, the community
came out and supported. They couldn't be more excited and
just engaging that community from the beginning and not not
faking it, you know, letting everybody know this is Philly,
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this is West Philly. We were not trying to paper
over that. We are here sweating because it was hot.
I'm glad we went, but a little behind the scenes.
That was not an easy call in the middle of
a pandemic. I mean, you got it, you. I mean
the meetings we had to have about Okay, we're gonna
take number one on the call sheet to Philadelphia. What
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are you gonna do if he catches COVID and what
I mean we're supposed to come back to l A
and start shooting on Monday. What are you gonna do
if he gets if he if he catches COVID, what's
our backup plan? And and so you're just talking about
all these protocols to keep him safe, to keep everybody safe,
the crew. It was a very risky move, but artistically
we had to argue we've got to go there. We
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just I mean, if we try to shoot Philadelphia on
the back, loot in l all the audience right, and
you're already in the hole. Yeah, And the authenticity is
very much appreciated. It shines through in the series over
and over. So if we can, I would love to
dive into this finale. It was not short on the trauma,
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the mess, the excitement. A lot of that is surrounding
lou Will's dad, who, of course, in the original Fresh
Prince didn't appear until a few seasons, And I'd love
to hear why you why you guys decided to introduce
him now and at such a moment for Will Well,
I mean, you know, a lot goes into that discussion,
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A lot of mention had been made here and there.
You know Will not having a father, you know, right
in the beginning in the pilot, him looking at Phil
going I'm not your son, you know, like letting us
know in subtle ways that this was a core wound
for this character that maybe you know, explained a lot
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of things and actions he was doing, um, and bringing
it to a head of he's in a good place
with the bank's family. Um. But then the scab gets
ripped off of that core wound and he finds out
that you know, his history, that that history he's been
given is not the truth. And what's he going to
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do with that? We just thought is storytellers, there was
a good place to shift the rama of getting this
young man to a good place where the family and
find out that they haven't been given him the real
truth all these years. It's also a way to continue
that the story we're telling about will shifting identity. I mean,
this is this is still a fish out of water story.
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This is still a story about a young man who's
learning who he is and that definition is expanding. So
in the beginning he's saying, I'm from West Philly, I'm
not bel Air. Well, through the season we get him
to reconcile that another thing he believes about himself is
my father abandoned me and and and left me. Well,
we've got to flip that on its head too. He
has to redefine who he is, and it gives us
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something to work on going into season two. I mean,
we were very lucky to have a two season order.
It meant that we knew we'd be able to continue
storylines beyond this this first ten episodes, and so Lose
great for us because it really supercharges us. I mean,
we have to come back next season and put this
family back together, and we'll have to put him elf
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back together. So it gives us a great way to
kind of end the season. I thought it was great because,
you know, in the original version of the show, the
moment with Will and Uncle Phil and his father was
so iconic, like that resonated with everybody. How much of
that scene was in your mind when you kind of
scripted Jabari because Jabari went ham on his dad, he
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went I was sitting in like wow. I mean it
shows it shows how much hurt and pain, sense of
loss had been in that the character of that young
man all these years. It was also a lot of
in the room. I mean we I mean this, we
knew what we were playing with, and we you know,
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as you go through the episode, there's a moment where
they're kind of getting along like they're bonding and we're going, well,
what's going to be the trip wire? And it's like, oh,
well he should say something about his mother, like, well,
not gonna stand for that. You're not gonna You're not
gonna bad mount my mama. It's also not taking responsibility,
like she's the one who pushed me to household. She's
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the one who did. Like even like he couldn't take
responsibility for the choices he made to put him in prison,
for the choices he made to not see his son
or reach out to his son all these years. And
then he's going to put it on you know, Will's
mom wrong answer, and we wanted to do it, but
we also knew we had to put our own spin
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on it. So what's great about the one where when
Ben Vereen comes in and plays Will's dad is it
leads to this great hug between Uncle Phil and Will.
It's it is their bonding moment. Yeah, that's not what's
happening in this episode. You know, he's like, I'm actually
pissed at you out too. You should be, I mean
I want you to be. I want everybody to be upset.
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It's kind of like the thing I'll say is if
you look at how we started the season with Carlton
and the way it made people feel, and you start
to see the shift to how people are starting to
feel about Carlton right about now. It's different. Like I
said in an interview the other day, as storytellers, our
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enemy is apathy. We want people to feel something, whether
it's happy, sad, anger, joy, whatever, it is the biggest thing.
I mean, I find myself turning off shows in the middle.
You know, I'll be watching someone with my wife, I'll
turn off and I'll just I'll say, I just don't care.
But if you're mad, you care. We relished working on
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these scenes and put a lot into them. I have
never worked on any set of pages that got more
scrutiny all around me. Everybody from the studios to the network.
We're reading these pages between Will and lou and questioning
what are we doing and investing and it was saying, oh, man,
are we really gonna blow this family up? And yet
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to remind everybody, we're coming back next season. We can
put it back together, all right. And some people were saying, well,
should Will really be mad at them? And I loved
it because we had a meeting and I can't. I
think it might have been Morgan who just sort of said,
Will is a seventeen year old boy. Yes, he gets
to be angry, he gets to displace his anger. Maybe
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in you know, season two, he'll realize I overreacted, but
for this moment, he can be mad at everybody. Yes,
and yeah he right. First of all, he was he
did not hold back um. And also I love that
we got to see a teenage black boy let his
emotions out without grown people swinging on him or you know,
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stepping out of you know, I feel like we have
a lot of conversations about children staying in a child's place,
but adults are the ones who need to know their places. Like,
you're the adult here, You're the one whose brain is
fully formed. You're the one who needs to have, you know,
self control. Catty was great about that because you know,
when he kind of going at them in the foy,
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you know, I talked to her and she was like,
you know, she goes, what makes this moment hurt? Is
I have to eat this? Yeah? Yeah, yeah for ten
years I did. I mean, I have to just sit
in this even though it's really hard to hear and
I think she plays it so beautifully. And she says
that her character Viv says to Lou after he goes off,
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goes off and drops some really hard language at Lou.
She says, Lou, he's just a boy. If you care
about him, to give him a little time and talk
to him again. And of course, the character we set
up in Lou like he made his choice. He's got
to live with the consequences because Lu is not in
a place. You know, at that point, Lou is really
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not mature enough to accept that you know his son's feelings.
So we talked about that in the room too. I mean,
you know you can't. It's hard to just show up
and just start being a parent. I mean, this is
like you've been gone for a long time. You know.
You gotta put that working day and day out year
after year, and so Lu doesn't really have the capacity
to be who will needs him to be. And you're
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not showing up to a parent the four year old
that you left. This is a boy who's almost grown
and and has been through a lot without you. And
I love that you all switched it up from Lou
just being a deadbeat like he was in the original
to him having a more complex story here, a story
that Will himself even felt a lot of empathy for
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his dad. You know, he was in jail. He had
these priors that made it harder for him to stay out.
His own dad had been in jail, which hurt their relationships.
So he didn't want Will to see him like that.
Why did you all decide to go this route with
the character? And do you do you think we'll see
him again? Because honestly, to me, that last line of
you know, he'll have to deal with the consequences, I
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felt a little ominous. I was like, now, wait a minute,
you just gotta give him a little time. Came here
to make things right for that boy, but he made
his choice. Now he's gonna be the one that has
to live with the consequences, not me. I think over
the course of you know, hopefully five six, seven seasons. Oh,
we want to see him. First of all, we love
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Marlon is a person and an actor, and working at
him was fantastic. That reveal was great. I was a
little nervous because he walked in and you couldn't tell
who it was until he turned around, and it was
just like, that's lou hopefully we'll see him again. That's
that's all I can say, and making no promises, but
in our hearts would love to love to see him again.
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But I'll just as a peek behind the curtain. There
was even a story like the one we had. There
was a great deal of debate in the writer's room
and and all along the chain, because there's a version
of the story we talked about doing where v decided
I'm not taking my little boy down to the prison
to see his father behind glass. That she was the
one who said, I'm not I'm not gonna put that.
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I'm not gonna have that in his head. And we
went back and forth between what that meant and who
would be to blame, and that version sort of took
Lou off the hook if I was the one to say, well,
I'm gonna disconnect you from your son, and we wanted,
we wanted Lou to own more of what he'd done.
So that's why we landed where we landed. So was
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that the point of making lose character and his back
story so much more complex than he was in the original.
Was it to kind of get Will to see that
things weren't always as he thought and you know, even
the people that he thought he could trust the most
had sort of been lying to him all this time,
Like what was what was the reason for that development?
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We wanted to give everybody a compelling reason to make
a tough choice. Um, you know, you don't want to
have to tell a four year old, well, your daddy's
in prison and he doesn't want to see you, right,
I mean, what how will he handle that? So it
was sort of easier to just let it drift away.
He's gone, baby, and I don't know when he's coming back.
But when you tell that lie, how do you will?
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At what age do you go? Hey, seven year old,
you know what I told you? When you well, your
dad is actually in jail and he doesn't want to
see Well, seven is still a little young, right, Like
that would be hard for a seven year old to take.
Let's wait a few more years, and you keep waiting
and waiting and waiting and wait. And that's what happened
with Viv v and Phil. I mean, that's why we
have those debates. When Vai came out to visit and
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she said to Viv, I think I might tell him
about his father. They said, well, he might hate us.
You know. Well, I mean, and that it's interesting because
I don't think there's any good age to tell a
kid your father would prefer to not see you. Um,
but I love that, you know. You guys also made
it that Lou had been out of jail for three
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years and so had the opportunity to find at some
point over these past three years and simply did not
do it. So again it comes back on Lu, like,
why are you making these decisions and needing to be
accountable for what he has done? It? It's complicated. Yeah,
what hopefully back is pride. His pride gets in the
way of him doing what he's supposed to do, which
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is not unlike his son. We're in Will is living
in bel air because pride led him out to that
basketball course, because you just let it go. So as
much as Will may rail against his father, there there
are connections between them. But you know, Will is at
least seventeen, so right, I mean the thing. The thing is,
so we wanted to make it complicated and messy because
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real life is complicated and messy. Um. You know, in
a sitcom you have to make it quick, you have
to make it clearly understandable. We need things in a
drama that take a while to figure out and take
a while to unpack. And and you know, we're not
doing a crime procedural drama where every forty two minutes
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we find the killer and put him in jail. You know,
we gotta go on and on and on, and so
all these issues were talking about right now are conversations
that are going to continue into the second season because
good news, people, we got our second season. Yeah, it's happening.
And one of the things we do with characters like Lou,
because it's very easy to look at Lou through Will's eyes,
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are the people we know. But you have to ask yourself,
what's the story. Lou tells himself, what's the heroic version
of this? Lou, in his mind thinks, I did my
son a favor. I did not burn him with this legacy.
I did not burn him with having to see me
like this, which is what my father did to me,
and I feel that it held me back. I cut
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you say, cut you loose, I say, I cut you free.
That is what he believes, and so that gave us
a lot to work with in those scenes. And that's real,
that is real, that happens a lot of times that
two people you know, believe that they're doing the right thing,
and they're doing completely different, opposite versions of that thing
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that you know, each of them say that the other
is wrong. It was born out of a real We
got one of the writers in our room, right, Rashid
from his father was a prison guard who had seen
this type of thing where people don't bring the child
back here, but my heart can't take it, and I
don't think they should see it either, don't bring the
child back down here. Well, yeah, so difficult conversations that
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you know are leading to a lot of drama and fireworks.
This episode had so much of that, plus this great
cliffhanger where we don't know what Will's next move is
gonna be um and it also touched on so many
of the themes and relationships that we have been talking
about throughout the season. So I want to switch to
Phil and Viv and talk about them a little bit.
The episode starts off showing us how their dynamics have come,
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you know, full circle in a way. She's shining as
an artist and he just gets to kind of sit
back in the background and and beam and be proud
of her and support her. We see his friendly exchanges
with his alpha bros. And he seems to kind of
come back to remember who he used to be, you know,
when he was Yamacra, before he was you know, the
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man he has become. So can you all talk about
the journey that Phil and Viv have gone through the season,
both individually and as a unit. I mean, as a unit,
they've basically swapped places. When the season started, Viv was
in the background and Phil it was his fundraiser. He's this,
you know, the candidate, and people are donating and he's
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going to do all these great things. By the end,
Viv is the center of attention and he's in the
back and you know, people asking him because remember the
episode before he stepped down out of the d A
Race two preserve the secret of what he did for
will and to protect his family. I can say this,
I mean, Phil is still a little in shock from
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that in this episode unfamiliar. This is a man who
has never lost in his life, you know, and even
though he got out of the race willingly, he did
not accomplish his goal. And so there's gonna be a
lot for us to unpack going into season two. With
that feeling in his soul and with Viv taken off
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like a rocket. I think it's been fun to watch
them navigate. They're they're competing ambitions, and I think we're
having a very honest conversation about the fact that it's
hard for both of us. Can't go out there and
be the lead singer. Somebody got sing back up, Ye,
Who's who's it comed be? And some marriages they take
turns and some somebody kind of always is the lead.
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It's been great to watch I think this evolution. I mean,
these are the little things that we kind of geek
out on as a writer. But when you look at
Phil's party, it was during the day, it was outside,
brightly lit, and it wasn't a fun party. Everybody kept
telling you it wasn't a fun party. Whereas this one
with with on Viv, it's at night, it's indoors, it's sexy,
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it's dark, and it's artwork and there are stars there.
Everybody is ignoring themselves, and so I just I love
that flip that they went to a world that was
a little bit it had more soul than the one
they had been inhabiting. And that's also a sort of
a metaphor for Will walking into their life. We were
we were sort of somewhere sterile and artificial before he
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got here, and now we're back to our roots were
tapped in again. Yeah, but you know, I did my
heart broke for Will, just because the sheer number of
emotions he went through, and then that feeling of like
maybe a little bit of hopefulness when you see him
and lou on the couch and it looks like, you know,
they're bonding over the sixes game and maybe things are
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gonna be okay, And then Loose starts talking about Will's
mother and all hell breaks loose, and so you know,
he ends up feeling not just rejected by his father
or betrayed by his father, but also lied to, but
all by all the adults that he loves and trust
who are supposed to be looking out for him. So
maybe you all can't talk about it too much, but
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I would love to know, like the impact of this
moment meeting his father and and and the reject from
the parentals, how much of that are we going to
discover and and dive deeper into in season two. It's
where we have to pick up the story because here
was this young man who came to them very guarded,
and he let his guards down. He let himself become
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a part of this family, and he trusted them in
ways that he had not trusted probably anyone except his mama.
And now I found out you've been playing me, you
lie to me, Um, I think it's gonna be very
hard for them to rebuild those bonds and to re
earn that trust again. And let's not forget there came
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a time over the course of the season they had
decided we'll just not tell him, We'll just not tell him.
There were a couple of times over the season he
asked his aunt and uncle and his mom point blank,
what's the deal with my father? And they did not.
I mean, as a seventeen year old, he asked them,
looking them in the eye, and they had a chance,
and they didn't. I mean, Phil went so far as
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to fire Jeffrey insanity. And now they know, now they
know that this wasn't a family emergency. And and you know,
and Phil directly to Carlton's face too. And when Carlton
looked him in the eye just like Will did and
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received that lie back from his dad, I think that
was a huge moment, and it was really reflective of
how Carlton and Will's relationship has changed so much over
the season. My god, Carlton public enemy number one when
we started the season. Yeah, yeah, and so can we
talk a little bit about that relationship and the changing
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dynamics between them? Yeah. I mean, look, when when Will
showed up at that party, we all remember the look
on Carlton's face. Pilot uh and talking to Lisa and
just you know, push his Will in the pool at
the end of the pilot because he's with Lisa and
they hate each other and fist fight, and by the end,
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Carlton is that Lisa's door with tears in his eyes,
begging her to help him get Will back. I need
you to help me find Well, he's gone missing. Missing. Yeah,
he left a few hours ago and no one knows
where he is. He stood me up today, Carlton, after
he told me he loved me. He stood me up.
His dad showed up at the house today. Oh my god. Yeah.
And it was bad, Lisa, it was so bad. It's
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like everything that he was afraid of about his father
is true, but it's somehow worse because my parents had
been lying to him this whole time. I think it
was all too much for him to take. And so
he ran away and and I don't know if he's
going to come back, so you have to help me
find him. Lease. He never turned his back on me,
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and I needed that and I needed that. No, so
please please help me find him, please Jesus. Also, Carlton
is the one who delivers when you say, well goes
are out asking this question, who is my father? Who?
If I asked Jeffrey, Jeffrey gets fired. Carlton is the
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one who carries that ball across across the goal line.
He's the one who says, here, I'm putting the answers
in your hand. I am defining my father. I'm in
his office. I am getting this for you, and I
know it's gonna be rough, but here you go. I mean,
Will takes it and says I don't want to open this,
and Cardon does you gotta? I mean, he gives he
He does the thing that that I think Jeffrey told
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fails to do, which is you should have given him
the encouragement to open this thing. Carlton comes through for well.
I love that, Yes he does. So we feel that's
that whole relationship has taken on an amazing arc and
hopefully the viewers on an amazing ride with how they
feel about carl the character of Carlton, oh completely, because
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I couldn't said, yeah, listen, I've always said when you
don't like a character, that means they're doing their job,
because that's not actually who you know. Only is for
everyone to have this hatred In the first few episodes
of Oh my God, I hate Carlton. I hate Carlton.
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I hate Carlton, and then you see the sentiment just
kind of change. You know, well, Carlton is going through
some things and to watch this go full circle is
absolutely amazing. Yeah, and we we love him as a
person as an actor and just he has shown amazing
poise and strength of character dealing with a lot of
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the crazy that has been thrown at him online and
uh like a pro. Like a pro because he is
a pro. And it is exciting because now we're at
that point where we can play the friendship of it
all like they can be ado. I'm looking forward to
season two where you can put you know, Will, Carlton
and Jazz together out there, like just have the three
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of the and and tearing out. I mean like now,
like it's like, oh, now we get to tell those stories,
and it feels think a little earned because you know,
you know, they've been through some things now, I mean
they've been between nine and ten, they were really there
for each other, and I think that bond now allows
us to have a great place to go in season two.
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We have to talk about Jazz and Hillary. We absolutely
have to talk about Jazz and Hilly. So I was
it was mind blowing to see them kiss earlier in
the season. I was kind of like, Okay, didn't get
a chance to do that, but I get it. Um.
But we see the way that Jazz supports, you know,
Hillary in her career and pushes her to be you know,
(36:36):
like be your true self. Um. At the end of
the episode, she takes advice and it looks like this
is gonna pay off. What was the decision to finally
bring these two together? Um? And I'm really curious, you know,
once again, since we talked about season two, um, where
that relationship is going to go. Well, I mean one
of the reasons that happened, I mean we were we
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had talked about teasing it. The chemistry between Coco and
Jordan's was so good. We were like, we can't run
away from this. Yeah, yeah, I mean because we're not
playing for laughs, like we're playing for drama and intrigue
and people leaning forward. That's where it went. You know,
we hadn't meeting like the in Jazz's record store, and
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you know, we had a couple of scenes and we
wanted to just sort of have a little bit of
chemistry and fun. But it was so good you're like, oh,
we we we can't, we can't not go there. It
also was great to have a relationship that in a
lot of ways on paper looks like it shouldn't work.
And I won't even get into people online like the
height difference people, and so I kind of enjoy watching
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this couple that you go, well, why does this work?
But it works? And we also though it works, but
we want people to ask how long can this work?
You know, her background, his background, where she lives, what
she does, where he lives, what he does. You know,
they're gonna have fun, but there are when you get
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in a relationship and you get past the brand new phase,
there are things to figure out, and that's where it's
going in season two. Yeah, I mean I like playing
with just thinking of like who are their exes? And
what does that look like? Hillary is active. I mean,
it's private planes, it's trips to Dubade, you know, and
and and it's like, you know, you kind of go
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with your Jazz, Well, how long is she gonna be
happy with me taking her too? You know Roscoe's chicken
and water, Like when does she you know? And and
it's it's kind of nice to maybe have Hillary say, well,
actually I love this. I know you think I want that,
but I'm happy here. Um. I think We've got a
lot of story to tell with them. I'm really excited
(38:47):
about them in season two. Yeah, and I love that
we get more of Jazz as a character. We see him,
like Jeff was just saying, pushing Hillary um to be
more independent, um, more forthright too, to see herself as
like an equal player in this influencer game, and to
(39:09):
not feel so intimidated by Karachi's character. And then also
at the end of the episode, when Jazz and Will
are looking out over l A and and Jazz, you know,
they bring up the whole part about not letting l
A forget who you are. But then also like you
can also reconcile. You know where you came from, where
you are now, and you can take this opportunity to
(39:31):
have this life that can be better than what it
was before. And that theme of achieving success while staying
true to who you are has really been at the
heart of the show this season. How do you think
that pushing poll has affected Will throughout the season and
some of the other members of the family like Hillary
or viv It never goes away, particularly I think if
you're I think if you're black, I mean, the higher
(39:53):
you go, it's still a pushing pull of you know,
how much of my authentic self can I get to be?
Or you know, I'm trying to I'm trying to get
over I'm trying to achieve. Should I tone this down?
Should I hold this back? Am I always going to
speak my mind? Those questions never go away. And it's
great to meet somebody young and talented and to watch
(40:13):
him navigate that every time he sort of moves up
in life. I mean, so, I think that is a
series long theme and struggle for the character. We see
it all the time. I mean, you know, most of
the people of our generation, Rashid who we work with
and stuff nobody's from l A, you know, and so
you get a lot of people there's a fun push
(40:36):
and pull of discussion, people just constantly repping their hometown
all the time, but living here, um, you know, I
find myself doing that sometimes and then I'm like, if
it's so great, why am I hearing? How did I
leave you? I'm in that min order of people who
eagerly shed where I came from. I was like, I
don't mean, but never speak of India. I mean, but
(41:01):
it's like, I love where I come from, but I
don't live there, So there's something, you know. Yeah, And
so it's because I need to be who I really
am and I and do what I want to do,
and I couldn't do that there. And it's just so
I can still be myself and proud of who I
am as a person, but I don't need to to
(41:22):
stay in one place geographically to feel authentic. And that's
what it takes the maturity to figure that out. I think, yes,
it does well. The other thing I think is hard
is you're from a place at a particular time, enough
years go by, you're a stranger to that land too.
All the stories are gone at some point the connection
(41:45):
probably dies and that's hard to admit and reconcile, but
that's how time works. It just you know you're You're
from Warwick, graduated high school and nothing. Oh man, well, gentlemen,
(42:07):
I have to say again, what an incredible job on
season one. We are so looking forward to season two
and since this was the finale, we do want to
share some love from the Fantasist season. One person on
Twitter said they need to just clear bell Air for
five seasons. Jeffrey needs a spinoff. I want to see
him go on missions. They might have taken that from
my Twitter because I feel like Jeffrey's a secret agent
(42:29):
because we can. I want to find out more about
how Jeffrey got all the links, all the connections and
can seem to do anything. People love that character and
I we want to explore that to Jimmy is great
as an actor, and the trick of that role is
he's not actually telling you that much. He's not revealing
that much, but you can feel all of this playing absolutely.
(42:51):
You also got some love for the dramatic reimagination of
the series. This one says Bellair is well done. A
reimagined shouldn't be a mimicry at an homage and an evolution.
It's a different show, but the roots of tenderness and
family are clear. The spirit is there, and I love
its nuanced portrayal of black masculinity. Could not agree more. Yes,
(43:12):
thank you for reading that. Yeah, I was gonna say
those people peered into my heart. I mean, that's exactly
what we hope to do. I know for a fact,
Rashid and I all the time talk about how grateful
we are for people's reaction to this show, and and
and grateful that the people tuned who tuned in wanting
to hate it I have come around and admit, you know,
(43:37):
is pretty good. Give it a chance. That's the thing
I'm most proud of. It's hard to overcome that initial barrier.
And because of the cast we have, the team we have,
and and you know, Morgan's vision and and everybody up
and down the chain, we were able to do it.
It's rare thing in Hollywood. I'm gonna savor every second
of it. Yeah, and we love and respect the fans
(43:59):
of the show. Is it's it's a big commitment. Thank
you for giving us ten hours of your time. Yes,
I mean you could certainly know, you had a lot
of options, and it's that we're glad people invested in
the show and continue to invest in this show. Let
me just say that All Pro linebacker Khalil Mack said
he was watching bel Air when he found out he
(44:20):
was being traded to the Chargers like and he and
he called it a strange coincidence. So you know, you
have everybody watching this show and on the edge of
their seats. And what I will say is every episode
had its thing. Episode eight, nine, and ten, oh you
(44:40):
smacked it out the park. I felt. I really felt
like nine could have been the season finality, and I
was saying, I need to see what they're going to
do intend And the way that you round it tend
up the fact that one of the early scenes was
Jazz and Will overlooking l A and Jazz telling him
(45:01):
not to lose himself. That in scene with Jazz saying
the exact same thing, I was like, oh my god,
talk about a full circle moment. Did you hear the
song playing? Yes, I know what I said, It's gonna
be dreams of Nightmares. But the flip side of it,
at the beginning, you know we're playing you know, yes,
(45:23):
playing the wait a minute part and this started with
our piano, you know, and that iconic song for that
iconic moment, not back to Philly. I mean, it just
it felt really good. You live for moments like that
in a room like we kind of knew we had
that in our pocket, and you just I mean, it
becomes this whole thing where you're just waiting months. You
(45:44):
can't wait for the rest of the world to see it.
We're finally here. Yeah, Well, speaking of how bad we
can't wait to see it, is there anything I mean,
just give us a drop, any kind of tease we
can get for season two, please the people that thirsty.
I think we've got to reassemble this family. I think
you're gonna see a family having to pull it back together.
(46:05):
I think you're gonna see Will sort of regressing a
little bit. He's he's a little angry, he feels he's
been hurt, and um, I think we're gonna bring I think,
I mean, what we're always trying to do is sort
of expand our canvas and meet more people in the
lives of the Bank's family. So I think we'll have
some great cameos and some great appearances in season two.
(46:26):
And I would like to say, um, We're going to
continue to explore some iconic locations in l A, but
different parts of l A than we've seen this season.
That's all I'm gonna say. Okay, okay, well you know
I'm gonna be thinking a lot about it till season two.
It's us again on Peacock. Rashid Nussen, t J Brady,
(46:47):
thank you so so much for your time today and
for your excellent work on this series. Gradually incredibly well done.
Oh man, Jeff, what a great conversation we have with
t J and Rashid. I'm so excited for what is
to come. It has been such an honor and such
a pleasure to work with you, the icon himself, the
(47:08):
DJ Jazzy Jeff on this show. Um, as you as
part of the original cast and hearing your perspective in
your opinion on things, this has just been such a
fulfilling experience. Yeah, this has been amazing for me. Um,
just being a part of the original show, not really
knowing what they expect and then getting your socks blown
off basically from the quality the authenticity of this show.
(47:33):
And to be a part of the podcast. Listen, I
am I'm in heaven right now. I just can't wait
to season two because season one knocked it out of
the park. Yeah, I cannot wait to see what they
do going forward. If you have not already, you can
check out all episodes of bell Air season one streaming
now on Peacock. Bellair, the official podcast is produced by
(47:56):
I Heart Podcast Network and Peacock. This show is ho
did by me, DJ Jazzy Jeff and by Me Chris
the West, supervising producer Mike Coscarelli, producer and mastering engineer
by he Crazier. Executive producers from My Heart are Nicky Etre,
Hona Stump, and Miles Gray. Executive producers from Peacock are
(48:17):
Lindsay Vogelman and Amber Ferguson. And special thanks to Will
Pearson from I Heeart and Michael Scoggin from PECAU
Host
DJ Jazzy Jeff
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