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Andrew Garfield is a British actor known for playing Spiderman, until he didn't, which is something we get to in this trial.
What has he excelled at? Films like The Social Network, The Amazing Spider-Man, and that memorable Chicken Shop Date with Amelia Dimoldenberg. So, what brings him here? We're looking into his departure from the Spider-Man franchise, some method acting misunderstandings, and that moment when he left us feeling a bit strange in our spidey senses.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
You're listening to a MoMA Mia podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Mom and Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and
waters that this podcast is recorded on Hello and welcome
to Canceled. The Lazy Girl's Guide to the ZAR Celebrity Cancelations.
I'm Claire Stephens and I'm Jesse Stephens. And today's episode
(00:38):
does not do what I just introduced. Our podcast us shit. Okay,
it's one where we virtually choose someone who's uncancellable, but
for the lulls. Actually that's a lie. It kind of
does go into things that are a bit cancled. I've
seen him get in trouble. I've seen it and get
in trouble. He's not untouchable. Well, anyone who's famous is
being concurrently canceled. Everyone knows that always. But I will
(00:59):
say it makes me sad that culturally, the people who
seem uncancellable, that's usually just God for men. Yes, and
we will say data point, just to put on the
table here a bit of an insight into the BTS.
No one ever asked for this, but we love you.
Hang it. Yeah, yeah, Kerby. Women who are on canceled
perform better than former, enormously better than men, because women
(01:22):
allegedly are fun to hate. Yeah, they're a lot more
fun to hate than we do a man. And everyone's like, eh,
he seems he just seems fine. He's just doing his best.
What men are allowed to be complex and eccentric and
fuck up? Yep, but have it still fold into who
they are as humans. Whereas women people just find them
a little bit annoying for reasons they can't articulate. That
(01:43):
reason is usually misogyny. Yes, you are about to enter
the canceled courtroom. The defendants are celebrities, the chargers are petty.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
The rulings are final.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Now I have been down an Andrew Garfield rabbit hole.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I want Andrew Goethor to smash a laptop on my tits.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Andrew Garfield, you too have a Spice Girl's connection. Didn't
someone didn't a lovely lady, A lovely lady. Didn't she
ask you out through the medium of the Spice Girl's music?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yes, thank you very much. How did you know that?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
You must have told somebody?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Only my deeply intimate praise Andrew Garfield is thick and
woke to the best things to be. If I am
in fact thick, my God, that's the dream. Because when
I was a kid, I was I was a streak
of piss. As you might say, I'm not visibly on
social media. I have a couple of secret accounts watching
(02:57):
you all talk your shit. My first kiss, I also
kissed sixteen other people that same night.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I like him. It started with his chicken shop dight.
Did I just friend zone? This is I.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Shouldn't have done that unless that's what you want.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
No, I don't know what I want.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Okay, I'm young to know what you want. You have
my number, do I?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yes? I ask for my number at I did, which
we'll get to. But then there was something deeper. Now, Jesse,
I host another podcast called but Are You Happy, which
is very different to this show tone wise, and we
talk about meaning and purpose and emotions enough, the very
heavy reality of the human experience, and a few listeners
(03:43):
we're just going to give but Are You Happier plug
on my watch. Well, a few listeners of that show
were messaging me being like, you have to listen to
this podcast with Andrew Garfield. It would be right up
your alley because I was like, okay, and it's an
episode of modern love where the idea is that it's
part interview, part someone reading a modern love essay from
the New York Times. And I've seen clips of this,
(04:06):
but I haven't actually watched it. Highly highly recommend. It
is beautiful.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
My wife hasn't worn a bikini for six years and
probably never will again. She says she's too old, which
makes me sad. She's a beautiful woman with gray and
her hair. My parents no longer drive at night.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Sorry, when you feel less like giggling and more like
contemplating the very essence of our existence, go listen to it.
But I do actually feel quite emotionally connected to Andrew Garfields.
I'm just putting that on the table. That's an important Yes,
it's about grief and longing and love and the idea
of accepting how limited we are email time on Earth. Okay,
(04:44):
what I'm going to bring right now is id' his
friends with Jamie DORNERA. Oh what a hot friendship. I
know he's actually in a really hot friendship group. Yeah, Okay,
who else I read about it? I feel like he's
semi friends with Tom Holland, both British, and they both
played Spider Man. Tom Holand is a little bit younger,
hang on. Let me find who else, because I just
(05:05):
Jamie Dornan is another man I connect. I'm looking at
a photo because everyone says he's got a hot group
of friends. Jamie Dornan is one of them. I guess
they're from like the same corner of the world. Not really.
Andrew Garfield grew up in Surrey, whereas Jamie Dorner. But
what I am seeing in this picture is that he
(05:26):
is with Lynn Manuel Miranda, so I'm going to assume
that very close friends. Yeah, okay, well he's friends with
Lynn Manuel because he was in Tictic Boom. Anyway, onto
the Lolls. He was also pictured with bo Burnham. Ah,
that is on a double date. He's a very hot
group of men. Andrew Russell Garfield didn't see that coming. No,
we're all shocked by the Russell is a very sexy boy.
(05:48):
Speaking of Garfield, we did a thing recently. We played
this game where everyone had to put a name into
a hat. Then you had to guess who would put
it in. So like you might put in Jennifer Lopez,
or you might put in Anthony Albeneasy, someone put in Garfield.
Fuck it got me like Garfield the cat. Yeah it
was so random. Yeah, I could not guess who'd done it. Yeah,
(06:08):
Garfield like someone I hadn't thought about in a while
as man as Nandy Say Garfield the Cat, Yes, what
was Garfield? Was it meant to be funny anyway? Andrew
Garfields has been in movies like The Social Network, The
Amazing Spider Man, The Amazing Spider Man Too, where he
played spider Man Hacksaw Ridge Never Let Me Go, great film.
(06:29):
He was very young. Tick Tick Boom, which I really
want to see. So he's a good singer, right, Oh
he can see the man yea flawless, flawless and tik
tic Boom was directed by Lynn Manuel Miranda. And that's
who his other friend is. His other friend was in
Lame Is Eddie Redmain. That's the other whole Wow, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, what a lovely group of men. Garfield became
interested in acting at the age of sixteen when a
(06:50):
friend convinced him to take theater studies for his A levels,
which is the equivalent of like khsa eta as they
were one student short of being able to run the class.
And you just know that friend is like I could
have been Andrew Garfield if I just asked Boris to
join that class instead, but instead I asked Andrew Garfield.
You know when you're like he walked in and just
(07:10):
was a full thespion. Yeah, you know when you're like, hey, hey, Tarlie,
come join the netball team, and then Tarlie is the
best person on the netball team and you're like, well
that wasn't fucked her actually happened. You were meant to
just be a fill in. Yeah. Yeah, now you're better
than me, which is not difficult. My structure for today
is as follows, Spider Man method, acting, a meet, cute
(07:32):
times too, the most romantic date of all time, and
the moment the Internet broke spider Man. Andrew Garfield was
cast as Peter Parker in The Amazing Spider Man Got
a Knife the real Life. Yes, it's a real knife.
My weakness it's small knives. Wasn't my Spider Man was
Troby mcguith. Yes, yes, but I am a big fan
(07:53):
of every single Spider Man. I think you can't watch
Spider Man enough. I don't like it's it's a shared
interest of me and my husband's. Yeah, I feel like
it's a bit one. No, like you get bit by
spider and it stresses me out having your web No,
and then you do the web thing and it sticks
to places. Yeah, and then you just Spider Man. You
(08:14):
save things, and you go up against a goblin like
I just feel as though some pace. Sometimes there's an
Emma stone, Sometimes there's a cursed in Dunce. Sometimes there's
a Zendaya you just never know. Was his stone. And
they fell in love, I thought so. And they dated
for years. Yeah, they were together for quite a while,
and they're a bit on and off. But even last
year he went to the premiere of Poor Things, and
(08:35):
there's a video of the moment she spots him in
the audience and is really excited. Okay, she's married with
a child. To continue, Well, I'm just saying that they're
still on good terms. So what does that say? AnyWho?
He said many times that he had worn Spider Man
costumes when he was three, and he studied the movements
of athletes and spiders to get into the part and
did yoga and polates. That first movie well received. Things
(08:57):
are looking great. He's meant to be in like a
slew of Spider Man movies, right, He's meant to be
the next Spider Man after Toby McGuire. I love the
visual of him studying spiders just in a gutter, just
crouching in a scudder. Look at this and then it's firing.
But you know it's just sitting there or scurrying, which
I know how you No, does that that is that
helping your practice? I don't think so. Then the Amazing
(09:20):
Spider Man two comes out in twenty fourteen, and it's
got mixed critical reviews, and while it does very well
at the box office, in terms of the franchise, it's
like a box office low Okay, Yeah, so Spider Man
is low West, it's just not one of the lowest. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So it's not Kirston Duns and Toby maguire kissing upside down. No, no, no, no. Now.
(09:42):
He was meant to be in future installments of Spider Man. Yeah,
but they went in a different direction casting Tom Holland.
Oh I think I've seen a Tom Holland. Yeah, Spider Man. Yeah. Zendaya.
Now you might remember the infamous Sony hack of twenty
fourteen where they leaked a whole bunch of emails.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Well, the then head of Sony was mad at Andrew
Garfield because he didn't turn up for an event in
Brazil where the Amazing Spider Man three was meant to
be announced because he was sick. The email read here,
we are about one hour away from our gala, and
Andrew decides he doesn't want to attend. He has a
(10:19):
rather scruffy beard and he just wants to be left alone.
So that email got leaked by the head of Signy sick.
He's sick, the man leave the bead alone. I know
I have to say when my husband, when my husband
isn't well, he looks awful. I've always said it about
your husband. He does not wear sickness or tiredness.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Well.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
No, no. In a twenty sixteen interview with The Guardian,
Garfield was asked if he was fired from the role
after that after being a bit naughty and not coming
to the Brazil and he said no, I don't think so.
What I'll proudly say is that I didn't compromise who
I was. I was only over myself and that might
have been difficult for some people. We ain't yourself. You're
a spider yeah, win, he told The Daily Beast in
(11:03):
twenty fourteen. I think what happened was through the pre production,
production and post production. When you have something that works
as a whole and then you start removing portions of it,
because there was even more of it than was in
the final cut, and everything was related. I have no
idea what, but you're sounding very Demota Johnson on Madam
Webb and the through LINEID Spider Movies, Spider Movies send
(11:29):
us bit cuckoo. Yeah, he said, once you start removing
things and saying no, that doesn't work, then the thread
is broken. It's very syry. Yeah, and it's hard to
go with the flow of the story. What he was
saying he was making a comment on the creative process, right,
which is, you've got this great story, Spider Man, how
can it go wrong? Yeah? And I think he's trying
to say, throughout the production process it can go wrong.
(11:50):
We've got some plot holes, we've got some weirdness. Yeah.
And maybe he's saying the amazing Spider Man two was
not a work of art. Do we think Spider Man's done?
Absolutely No, which I will get to. I feel as
though you always think it's done and then there's a
new Spider Man and then you go to see it
at the movies, and it is excellent. It is highly entertained.
(12:12):
In one of Variety's Actors on Actors sessions, he admitted
that he was heartbroken by the experience of not getting
cast in future Spider Man's I don't think he's Spidery.
I look at Toby Maguire Spidery. I look at Tom
Holland Spidery, then Andrew Garfield, and maybe it's because I'm
thinking of the cat, but he's more catty. Well, this
(12:35):
was actually criticism. People said he was too hot, he's
too too he's a bit snaky, he's long and he's thin,
and that's not what Spider Man is. Okay, I disagree,
but it is a criticism. He told Amy Adams. I
signed up to serve the story and serve this incredible
(12:55):
character that I've been dressing as since I was three,
and then it gets compromised and it breaks your heart.
I got heartbroken a little bit. Tom Holland, who took
over the role, has since said that he regrets not
calling Garfield after being named as the new Spider Man.
And what I love about this story is that if
this were women a bitch fight, there'd be a cat
(13:16):
fight and it would be sex in the city, who
hates who you took her role? Blah blah blah. But
because it's men, we allow them the dignity. Yeah, of
peace and privacy, yes, Tom holand what they are all adults,
all they are all adults, and sometimes life goes this way. Yeah,
no drama there. I just need to have a chat.
I will, They'll move on. Kim Catrell, on the other hand,
(13:39):
absolute bit. Not really, not really. Tom Holland said, I
was nineteen when I got cast. I was so caught
up in getting the role that I never took any
time to think about what it must have been like
for him. If I'd made my second movie and it
didn't necessarily deliver in the way it should have done,
and they recast me, I would really struggle to bounce back.
Andrew bounce back in the most unbelievable way. I just
(14:01):
wish I'd called him and said, you know, I can't
turn down this opportunity. Man wasn't a believable spider crime.
He river, He's got more opportunities. It's fine, He's fine.
And of course, Dobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland
all united for Spider Man No Way Home in twenty
(14:21):
film which you have you not seen it.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I'm Peter Parker. I am Spider Man in my world.
But then yesterday I was I was just hearing Jesse.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You don't go and see spider films that lou standing cinema.
The scene, how how can they all coexist? Because there
were different universites. It was the multiverse. They're in a
room and the three of them addressed spiders. They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
And it's so funny and they're doing They're funny the thing. Yeah,
and it's super meta and self for a factional No, no,
(14:56):
it's really funny having the three of them. Okay, okay,
sounds finn. The dynamic was great. I think in those
films sometimes you can see in the eyes of the
people playing the characters in this film, not Spider I
saw a movie recently with some superhero I had to
watch it, the look in Paul Rudd's eyes. Oh, we
sold out. It's the end of his tether. Yeah. No,
(15:18):
but Spider Man, different story. Friends, We are doing a
live event canceled live at the University of Sydney. You
can come and see us in Real Life at the
Alumni Festival the University of Sydney on Saturday, November the thirtieth.
The event is free, but you have to register for tickets,
(15:39):
so we'll pop a link in our show notes for
that is just so lazy girl that we don't expect
you to pay. We would never know. Well, we shouldn't
say never, because one day we might like to profit,
but not now. Today is not that day. I think
it's going to be quite a almost an emotional event
because you and I both went. The last time we're
at Sidney UNI was when we were at Sydney UNI. Yeah,
(16:00):
what was when I was graduating. We were studying there. Yeah,
we're doing all of our courses in celebrities. Yeah, we
studied a degree in pop culture cancelations. We did, and
they offer that they don't. It's not off very good degrees.
There are a bunch of other events happening across the day.
They're not just putting the festival on for us. Oh
they might be. You would we call ourselves headliners? No,
(16:22):
because doctor Carl's going to be there, Oh my god. Yeah, yeah,
there are some brilliant events on. Go and have a look.
It is university of Sydney, November the thirtieth, See you There,
(16:47):
method acting. The man is a fan of method acting,
and he's got in trouble before for playing into stereotypes
when he's going method. In twenty seventeen, he was cast
as Prior Walter in the play Angels in America at
the National Theater in London. He was nominated for the
Lawrence Olivier Award for the role, but there was controversy
(17:10):
because his character is a gay man with aids and
Garfield is a straight man. He was criticized for taking
the role when people said it should have gone to
a member of the lgbt QI community. Was Matthew McConaughey
criticized for Dallas bias class I think so it wasn't
very loud. Maybe it was just a different time, at
a different time, and that criticism snowballed when Garfield was
(17:32):
asked how he prepared for the role, and in an
interview he said he'd watched documentaries, He'd done all this research,
and then he said he had watched every episode of
RuPaul's Drag Race and he said every Sunday I would
have eight friends over and we would watch rue. That's
my life outside of this play. I'm a gay man
right now, just without the physical act. That's all. A
(17:55):
lot of people in the lgbt QI community were like,
it's not about RuPaul, it's not about RuPaul. And I
will say that the lived experience of being a gay man,
of walking down the street holding hands with your boyfriend,
even in the most progressive countries in the world, it
can be really dangerous. I don't think I know any
gay man who hasn't experienced homophobia. I will say, I
(18:17):
do not know a gay man who has not watched
RuPaul's drive. I know, and that is two things can
be true. It's art, yes, now they did say it's
quite a reductive way to look at our identity. But
in an article in The Guardian, a journalist argued it's
not quite as bad as it sounds, because Garfield was
saying that in the context of saying that when he
(18:38):
was offered the role, he struggled with the fact that
he felt like he had no right to play that character,
and he clearly wasn't ignorant of what he was doing,
and he did a whole lot of research. He also
played a Jesuit priest in a twenty sixteen movie called Silence,
(19:00):
and he did all this research and learned about the
Jesuit lifestyle. So his idea of method is obviously not
like you and Jim Carrey. It's not Jim carry It's
just like you do a whole lot of research so
that you really feel like you know the character. Oh,
that's not method, that's just research. Well, he says, there
have been a lot of misconceptions about what method acting is.
(19:22):
He said, it's not about being an asshole to everyone
on set. Is actually about living truthfully under imagined circumstances
and being really nice to the crew simultaneously and being
a normal human being and being able to drop it
when you need to and staying in it when you
want to tell Jared that. Well, he said, I'm kind
of bothered by the misconception. I'm bothered by this idea
(19:44):
that method acting is fucking bullshit. Why did you go
on this round about method acting because he met Jim
Carrey of Robert pat who's one of his friends. Yeah,
but Robert Pattinson was being really dirty on method acting,
was he? Yes, so Pattinson, who has also tried and
practiced this technique cla when I read about the Guy Gang. Yeah,
(20:06):
I'm putting it together. It was Jamie Donnan, it was
Eddie Redmain, and it Robert patters Well, which surprised me.
He was the one who said actors try this approach
when portraying asshole characters. And he's not wrong though. No,
he said, I always say about people who do method acting,
you only ever see people do the method when they're
(20:27):
playing assholes. True. I need to know when you're on
stage and when you're off stage. I need to know
that between action and cut. That's the thing, that's the
safe space. I need to know there's a cut coming
and then I'll feel safe. It just feels like you
can't get out. That's when you go crazy. I think
that these two men are in agreement. Yeah, probably probably
(20:49):
if we had on the podcast. So we've done Jim Carrey,
Jared Leto, Yeah, both method actors. I think Leo goes
a little bit method. Who was Stany Dow Yes, he
went stanky. Yeah. And then Joaquin Phoenix is also known
as a method actor. I thought we haven't done him
on the show before, but maybe we will because there
was that stunt hunt that I don't think anyone understands,
(21:12):
including him. Just think we thought we'd understand it later
and we don't know. Moving on to why we're all
here and meet cute times too, Finally we get to
talk about Amelia de Moldenburg and Andrew Garfield. Now, for
those unaware, Amelia de Moldenberg is a British comedian who
is the creator and host of the web series Chicken
(21:33):
Shop Date. She's been doing for ten years. She has
During the dates, she interviews celebrities in fried chicken restaurants
with her very specific style of humor, and the idea
is that they are interviews framed as dates. She is
known for asking bizarre questions and leaning into the awkwardness
of these interactions. Because of the viral success of Chicken
(21:53):
Shop Date, she's interviewed people like Jennifer Lawrence, Paul Mescal,
Lewis Capaldi, Phoebe Bridges, and she's done presenting work on
red carpets and during one of those red carpet events,
she met a certain Andrew Garfield. Have you seen this video?
Have I seen this video? Yes? Well? In an interview
for British JQ, she interviews Garfield and she is very
(22:17):
surprised and excited when he knows who she is.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
You're great. You're kidding me, sho.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I've been trying to get a date with you for
I have not I'm asking you out right now. She
says he looks good, and he says she looks beautiful.
You just take the compiment.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yes, it's dress, but it's like kind of leather rope,
it's made of rubber robber. Wow.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Okay. As he's leaving, he's like, lovely to meet you,
and then he kind of hovers and he says, seriously
lovely to meet you. Yeah, I've never seen more chemistry
between her because he says lovely to meet you. Because
it's weird what you do. Weird is in good and
I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
No, brilliant, because it's weird you do. It's weird as
in good, very specific and unique, and.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I appreciate. I appreciate you. Enjoy bye, see ya. That
is compliment. If somebody looked at me and said it's weird,
you're weird and I like it, I'd be like, I
feel so seen, I feel seen. I feel like I'm
finally understood. Yeah, it is. It is what she does.
It is very weird what she does you know the
(23:38):
other thing? The reason I feel think it's weird what
we do, it is, it is what we do. It's
weird what he does. Yeah, it is weird what he does.
What's the hardest thing you've ever gone through? I was
a bad spider. Yeah weird. No one understands. Yeah, no
one understands. They vibed and the chemistry was there. Then
they see each other at the Golden Globes and they're
(23:58):
giggling straight away. There's this moment of recognition and she,
she very rarely breaks breaks around him. Yeah, she breaks
around and she sees him, and he has a joke
about like, oh, you saw me in like winced and
she's like, no, I didn't, I saw it. Like She's
like yeah. Now she says, we must stop meeting like this,
and he says, I only ever.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Want to see you.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
That's what.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
I don't ever want to see you in these kinds
of situations.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
What about other kind of situations? Not interested? Actual sense.
I was going to write to my birthday party, where's
your birthday party? That's your the January. Actually I'm an Aparius, that's.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Your If you have a sun sign, that's the same
as the moon sign as someone else.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
It's not good. No, it's good. That was good. Why
is an issue?
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Well, because I don't I don't think we should explore this.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Okay, well I'm not even asking.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
To you, I know, but I'm just like, you want
to state you're obsessed with me.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
I'm scared of what it could turn into.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I'm not ready for that time.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I'm not ready for it.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Oh okay, well I am. She's like, you're obsessed with me? Yes.
She starts asking a serious question and he's like you're
not going to ask a serious question right now? And
she's like, yes, I am. And he can't keep a
straight face and he's like are you seriously going to
ask this? And she's asking about like you play a
lot of religious role like like mate, just go on
(25:29):
a day. Then yes. Then he's like he's like, no, no,
go ask a question, and she's clearly so flustered that
it's just a stapement. This is her question. She's like,
you play lots of religious characters and he's like that's
not a question, and then she looks at him and goes,
why it's just a vibe. Yes, it's just a vibe.
(25:51):
So that is to meet you, Yes, the perfect which
is how we are imagine it's gonna go when we
find ourselves on a red carpet with a microphone. Yes,
and we sit there and we go when he walks past,
he is going to go, oh my god, it's the
love of my life. You're beautiful, And instead what happens
is you say, can we speak to this person? They
(26:13):
say no, it doesn't want to speak to you, and
you go, I'm going to cry. O lovely. Now. The
reason we can't look away is because there is something
slightly uncomfortable about it. Yeah, it's awkward, yeah, but is
that because they're truly in love? Yes, which takes us
to the most romantic date of all time.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
I think we'd have a really nice time without the camera.
We just enjoy each other's company. Maybe not fuck.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
It, Jess, have you watched the date? I haven't watched
the date before, not yet. I've only watched clips, I
mean beyond okay, as I've been on Beyonce tik tok oh. No.
I know now the clips you've seen, that's your bad.
There is just so much chemistry and I can tell that.
Andrew Garfield is clearly like, would we be on a
date if it weren't for all this, all these lights
(26:58):
and all these people here, would you really go on
a date with me? And she's clearly like, well, I
don't know, because she's trying to like act cool. It's like,
is anything said? No? Is he interviewed? Absolutely not. Do
we get anything out of it?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
No?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Only vibes only, and I've never got more. Okay, I'm
going to do a recap. Okay, it's an eleven minute video. Wow,
I've watched it several times. Okay, they're at Sam. It's
the home of great tasting chicken. Yes, she loves like
a chicken out. I have more comments about saying later
on Okay, because there's a lot of b roll of
Sam throughout. Well, I would imagine that they've given free chicken. Yeah.
(27:37):
They begin by making a joke that the vibes were
so strong he was avoiding her for two years after
those red carpeting directions. So hot. Yeah, he says, I
don't like games, Amelia. Don't say her name. It's disquieting. Yeah,
it makes me feel funny when you say her name. Well,
you know why they couldn't go on this date because
he had a girlfriend. He had a girlfriend, and is
it a coincidence that they've only gone this date now
(27:59):
that he and the girlfriend are broken up? I think not.
She's like, ah, your spidy sense is tingling right now,
and he's like hot, you get one of those and
no more, but then another one and it's like, yeah,
he wants a real talk because he wants to connect
with you emotionally. Yeah. She asks him snog, marry, avoid
Toby tom Amelia demoldover I love it, And he's like,
(28:25):
I don't want to avoid anyone, but I guess you
And she's like what, and he looks at her.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
And says, this is called flirting.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Why am I smiling? Why am I blushing? As an aside,
I want to go to Sam's. Okay? Do they look good?
As does the soft drink? It looks chilled appropriately. Does
it look like that they would have extra chicken salt?
I get to this later on, but yes, okay, they're
having ginger beer, and I think she says during it
that she doesn't like ginger beer anyway. She asks do
(28:56):
you kiss on a first date? And then she glances
to the camera. She breaks the fourth wall. There's then
footage of the person working there trying to stand the
little packet of chips up on the like silver tray
and they keep and I'm like, whoever has edited this
is a creative genius. He says he thinks it's sexy
and really hot that she goes for what she wants
(29:17):
in terms of dating, and she says, that's what I think.
She's like, sometimes I worry about how much I get rejected,
but I put myself out there more than everyone else.
That's why I get rejected so much. Correct. He gives
her a high five for her courage love it. He's like,
what do you try and do to make it happen romantically?
And she's like, you just try to get with them.
(29:39):
And then he does an impersonation of her physically trying
to get with someone, and she's like, exactly, but she's
actually laughing. She's actually and does not break. She does
not break, And she's like, oh, that's funny. She asks
if he has ever been on a date to see
his own movie. His answer is no, actually, well he
(29:59):
pretends yes, then he says no, he's aware of all
her moves, like he's kind of like analyzing her as
she goes, yeah, yeah, and she says, I knew you'd
do this. She says it's fun He's like, does it
frustrate you? And stop blurting? She says, I like it
because it's funny someone seeing what I do. And he
(30:19):
says and naming it. Okay, this is so mad. Okay,
this is just basically like fifty shades, says. He then says,
and you go slightly red and she's like what she
goes slightly red? Now back to Sam's. Sam's chicken giving
caves is it? Is it the menu board? Oh, they
(30:40):
have chicken burgers with cheese, Oh, little boxes? It looks
really good? Does it genuinely great ad for Sam's if
anyone loves new SAMs? And then in terms of the chips,
what's the thickness? It looks like I'd say they're between
a McDonald's chip and a KS chip. Maybe not quite
(31:02):
as thick as KFC chips, but looks excellent. And I
see the salt. No, but the crispiness of the chicken
suggests that there's chicken salt. He asks how her thirtieth
was because on the red carpet she had made a
joke about her thirtieth, and she's like, did you like
being thirty? Can you remember? Because he's in his early forties, Okay,
(31:22):
you're old? Yeah, yeah, And he's like, bitch. He says,
you're funny. You're a funny person, and she says you're
funny too, and he says, eh, you're funnier and then
she accepts it, which I love. Why is this the
biggest compliment? He's like, I appreciate that quality in you.
And in a date, she's like, I think that we
(31:43):
there's something going on?
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Do you actually think that?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
For the I do think it's interesting that we if this.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Wasn't here, do you think we'd actually have it go
on a day? This has sucked up the fact that
we could have actually gone on a date at some point. Maybe.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
He's like, I actually believe maybe we could have without
all of it? But why? She why is chalking in
past tense? They're both think it changes? Okay. She says
he's afraid of it. Okay, I love it. That's so hot.
He says, I'm a very private person in my private life.
She says, I'm more private than you. Actually, have you
ever seen me with anyone? And he says that doesn't
(32:16):
mean you're private. It just means you're not with anyone,
which was a real nag. Yeah, And it was also
like I just wanted to come in and go. It's
also because she's not nearly as famous. I don't think
she's being packed. No. No, Also it's her job to
go on date. Yeah. He asks, do you want to
be married? Do you want to have children? Yeah? Like,
what are your ultimate longings? I love that they're proper chatting.
(32:39):
He refers to it as an interview, and she's like,
stop calling it an interview, it's a date. She asks,
So you've been nominated for an Oscar, you've not won
when you're gonna win an Oscar, which is exactly what
you want to ask everyone. Hey, you, why haven't you
won one of them big awards? Yeah? He says, like
I wanted to win, and now like I don't know,
maybe it's just not gonna happen. And she says, probably
(33:00):
when you stop caring is what it will happen. Apparently
that's what happens with love as well. Then she says,
that's why I've been so relaxed today, because I actually
just given up. He says, I don't think you can
give up with intention. He says, would you be more
attracted to me if I had the Academy Award? And
(33:21):
she says yeah, And he's like, fuck, my longing is
back for it. She says, sounds it's okay, you're already
kind of hot. He says, I think we'd have a
really nice time without the camera. We'd enjoy each other's company, okay.
And she's like, you have my number? And he's like
do I? And she's like, yes, you asked for my
(33:43):
number at a party and he says I did. He says,
this should be a practice round. Then what is this
just a stick?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
We're just being set up here because I don't have
time for it. I don't have time to get this
investor in something. No, but I for eleven minutes straight,
I simply smiled at my score. One of those people
is a method actor, so we'll just write him off. Yeah.
The other one has a stick, but isn't a method actor.
And the thing is that in this date, she breaks,
(34:16):
she breaks, She never So what do we know about
what's happened? Since? Oh we don't? Okay, all right, I
think it's a private but all right, but what we
do have is reactions? All right, my head, they're performers,
my heart their so mate, That's exactly how I feel,
exactly it. What are some of the comments? This one
has thirteen point three thousand likes. I'm telling my kids
(34:39):
this is the Royal couple. Love more chemistry, I'll because
they're British too. Yeah, this has seven and a half
thousand likes. I'm not even being remotely dramatic when I
say this is the greatest eleven minutes and forty seconds
of media I have ever consumed. I actually completely agree.
And then someone who's a brand well played has written,
so when's chicken shop wedding? Yeah, they need a wedding
(35:01):
in a chicken shop. Imagine getting catered from a chicken shop,
how happily, I guess would be great meals for a wedding.
There is an Instagram comment that says, no, you don't
underst And I've had this on loop for an hour
straight and I can't stop smiling and blushing. Yes, I
think people are getting physical reactions to this. Hard relate. Now,
can you describe the text and the expression in this meme?
We've got a shopped cat and it says it's called flirting, Amelia,
(35:23):
It's called flirting, and the cat is so shooken. And
then we've got this is a tweet. Chicken Shop Date
twenty twenty four starring Andrew Garfield and Amelia de Moldenberg
is the best rom com of the year. It's so true.
They're got all the tension, it's got all the steaks.
It's just bloody beautiful. Are you going to bring the
(35:51):
witch to the table or am I going to bring
the witch to the table? Witch? Oh my gosh, you
forgot about the witch. Andrew Garfield dated a witch? Oh no,
So her name is Kate to Mars. She's an academic.
She has a PhD. So that's doctor Kate to Mass
to you, she's a doctor in being a witch. She's
(36:12):
not technically a doctor and being a witch. That is unrelated.
Doctor Kate to Mass describes herself as a professional witch
and spiritual mentor. She has a PhD in theology from Oxford.
From the podcast I've listened to with him, from the
little research I have done into him, the fact that
he would date someone of the PhD does not surprise me. Continue. Yeah,
(36:34):
So basically they were photographed out with Bo Burnham and
Phoebe Bridges. I think maybe he was doing the Broadway
version of Inside, like bo Burnham's Inside. I think I
might have read that. I might have not, who knows. Okay,
they're photographed, and then what happens is on Instagram someone
comments on Kate's one of her posts being like, Tellandrew
(36:55):
Garfield I love him or something, and she's like, we're
actually not dating anymore, but he'd love to know that.
So he's always on good terms with the exits. Don't
know why they broke up. Why. So she has been
posting a lot of stuff since October seven, right, and
she said like, if you have a public platform, I
really think you need to post, and you're being a
coward and blah blah blah, and a lot of people went,
this is awkward because Andrew Garfield is not posting yep.
(37:18):
And then there was an article that went up that
was like, we think the reason that they've broken up
is because of he's not politically progressive enough for her,
and then she screenshot that article and put it in
her stories with a tick next to her is why
that broke up? But then in the last few weeks
(37:39):
he was interviewed, yep in a very public situation. Yes,
and he brought up Palestine. He did exactly right, And
a lot of people said, it's easy to look at
this and think it's not a lot. Yeah, but in
the context of Hollywood, Yep, it actually is. Yeah. So
he has kind of started speaking since they've yeah, since
(38:01):
they've split. Interesting, very and she got ruthlessly trold because
she was dating Andrew Garfield and she wasn't a famous person.
So I think a lot of people were making fun
of her being a witch. Oh okay, but it's like,
let her be a witch, you know. Yeah, I want
a friend who's a witch. Me too, Jesse. It is
time for charges and sentences. My charge. You're so serious,
(38:25):
so serious? All right, he's flirting with us? What he's
flirting with us? No he's No, he's not. He's flirting
with Amelia. He's flirting with me. And the date made
me feel weird. Yeah, in my spidy senses, all right, Dingled,
I felt tingles in the space a web hump in
spaces where the web emerges from there's something quite sexual
(38:47):
about the web. I think that they're emerging Freudian about
our obsession with spider Man and how we put white
gears like stuff on walls and then chase it so
you like it. I'm married with a child. Okay, what's
your sentence? Sentence? Well, if you won't date me, date
a million, dat a million. Yeah. I genuinely think watching
(39:11):
the response to this, I know it's like, oh ha
ha ha oh. He's an actor. She knows what she's doing.
This is her bit. Rah rah rah. We live in
a very divided world where things are quite heavy. Yeah.
What we need is to be a part of something, Yeah,
and to be included, yes and involved. Yeah. I need
(39:32):
this to work so that we can be part of
a journey together as a culture. Yeah, in the chicken shop.
In the chicken shop, because I think the journey of
having watched them meat on a red carpet twice and
then knowing that he asked for her number at a
party and then literally watched she had been left out
(39:53):
by that point. We weren't there at the party, and
that pisses me off because because I wished to be
like For some reason, and this may not be true,
I feel like it was the after party of one
of the awards shows. I don't know why. That's fine,
that's fine, And so I'm like, well, I guess it
was slightly off camera, but we saw you earlier in
the day. Yeah, So I genuinely think it would make
(40:13):
us all feel very included. And I think Amelia to Moldenburg,
there's actually something quite profound about what she does and
that I think she represents the every girl, all the funny,
weird girls who felt like when we went on dates,
guys didn't get our jokes and that maybe they were
(40:34):
just kind of looking at us up and down and
wondering why we didn't look like Adriana Lima. Yeah, there
was a bit of that, Yeah, And I think there's
something quite healing about watching a man value a woman
for her sense of humor, especially when that sense of
humor is weird as fuck. Yeah it is, and not
(40:56):
everyone gets it. Yeah, And she doesn't speak to him
like a celebrity. That's what I love is she just
puts them all down and she's like, try and impress me.
And it's genuinely really funny. It is really Funny's so
so good my sentences. I need them to get married,
and I need you to be If they get married,
there's no more fucking chicken shop. Tell you that because
no more day it's because you're married, unless they're polyamorous. Yeah, never,
(41:16):
there's actually do talk about monogamy. In the interview, he
asked if she wants to be a monogamous and I
don't know if she directly so, she's not fussed about
marriage or children. I think she just wants partner in tried. Yeah,
I wanted to be a royal wedding. Yeah, I wanted
to have all the trimmings royal. We got accent with
a reception in the chicken stop can love Okay, my
(41:39):
charge and it has been a recurring theme and it's
probably the only thing we can charge him with in
terms of guilt not being spidery enough. Ah, and he
has been punished for that. Yeah, and that he lost
his bloody job he loved, he lost his job. My
sentence is his proximity to a witch. Mm hmm is
(42:01):
something that I'm not benefiting enough from. If my friend said, oh,
I dated a witch for a few years, more content
out of that. I have some questions. Yeah, I think
witchcraft is a little bit like dating a magician, Okay,
in terms of tell me how he does the trick. Yeah,
so does she do potions? Yeah? You know how in
(42:21):
the movie Witches she doesn't really ties. She just had
a square foot? Is that a thing? She still have
square foot? Yeah? This is what we need to know. Yep.
Did she have a caldron?
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Like?
Speaker 2 (42:30):
I have all of those questions because Kate Tamas you
have to have a six month commitment with her if
you want to work with her as like a witch doctor,
and she will charge you eight thousand dollars a month.
So what's eight thousand time six? It's like fifty thousand dollars.
I'm feeling quite confident about that. So confused about a
(42:51):
witch doctor. Yeah, she's a witch to It's weird because
she is a doctor, not in doctor. No, no, no, she
did like mystresism or something. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so
she's really smart, but she's a witch. And I just
think he could dish more on the witch thing.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
If I was on a date with Andrew Garfield, I'd
be like, tell me about Eric. She sounds interesting. She
sounds very interesting. Great point in the first sentence of
Chicken Shop Date, he's the word curse, which made me worried.
Familiar Oh no, yeh did she is that X is
gonna put a bit of a curse on him one
hundred percent. Oh wow, great point, Jesse. I have a
(43:27):
lazy girl storry for us to round out the show. Okay,
she's a lazy girl. This is from Kate. Hey there,
I have a lazy girl take for you. We all
know about the lazy girl tax. Yes, about the lazy
girl tax before, she said, like the time I left
fifty dollars on a plane and couldn't be bothered calling
to see if they'd found it. Well, you know what
I did is I left my AirPods on a plane,
(43:48):
and I did call to see if they could find it.
And I think they called back, but I didn't answer,
Oh because I'm no number. I no number, And I
was like, I'm not just going to answer some random number.
And I've lost my air pods and they're worth like
two hundred dollars. Yeah, not going to buy another pair,
she said. But being a lazy girl sometimes pays off too,
Like the time I had to quit my job but
procrastinated and they ended up making everyone redundant, so I
(44:13):
got six weeks pay to not work in brackets. Ultimate
lazy girl hack she's a lazy girl. That's actually Jean,
redundancy is such a lazy girl, such a lazy Just wait,
if you wait around enough, you'll probably be made redundant.
You actually will. Yeah, and you get paid for not working.
And that's honestly like the greatest skift.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
No.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
I just think in a lazy girl's life, there is
no better period than when she is not working yet
she is still being paid as salary and benefits and sickly, Ah,
lazy girls should be able to live a redundant, a
life of redundancy. Thank you so much for joining us
on this episode of Canceled. Canceled is produced by Kimberly
(44:57):
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a minute, leave us five star reviews. We would like
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We'll be back next week.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
Bye z
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Mom and Maya acknowledges the traditional owners of land and
waters that this podcast is recorded on Hello and welcome
to Canceled. The Lazy Girl's Guide to the ZAR Celebrity Cancelations.
I'm Claire Stephens and I'm Jesse Stephens. And today's episode
(00:38):
does not do what I just introduced. Our podcast us shit. Okay,
it's one where we virtually choose someone who's uncancellable, but
for the lulls. Actually that's a lie. It kind of
does go into things that are a bit cancled. I've
seen him get in trouble. I've seen it and get
in trouble. He's not untouchable. Well, anyone who's famous is
being concurrently canceled. Everyone knows that always. But I will
(00:59):
say it makes me sad that culturally, the people who
seem uncancellable, that's usually just God for men. Yes, and
we will say data point, just to put on the
table here a bit of an insight into the BTS.
No one ever asked for this, but we love you.
Hang it. Yeah, yeah, Kerby. Women who are on canceled
perform better than former, enormously better than men, because women
(01:22):
allegedly are fun to hate. Yeah, they're a lot more
fun to hate than we do a man. And everyone's like, eh,
he seems he just seems fine. He's just doing his best.
What men are allowed to be complex and eccentric and
fuck up? Yep, but have it still fold into who
they are as humans. Whereas women people just find them
a little bit annoying for reasons they can't articulate. That
(01:43):
reason is usually misogyny. Yes, you are about to enter
the canceled courtroom. The defendants are celebrities, the chargers are petty.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
The rulings are final.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Now I have been down an Andrew Garfield rabbit hole.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I want Andrew Goethor to smash a laptop on my tits.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Andrew Garfield, you too have a Spice Girl's connection. Didn't
someone didn't a lovely lady, A lovely lady. Didn't she
ask you out through the medium of the Spice Girl's music?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Yes, thank you very much. How did you know that?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
You must have told somebody?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Only my deeply intimate praise Andrew Garfield is thick and
woke to the best things to be. If I am
in fact thick, my God, that's the dream. Because when
I was a kid, I was I was a streak
of piss. As you might say, I'm not visibly on
social media. I have a couple of secret accounts watching
(02:57):
you all talk your shit. My first kiss, I also
kissed sixteen other people that same night.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I like him. It started with his chicken shop dight.
Did I just friend zone? This is I.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Shouldn't have done that unless that's what you want.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
No, I don't know what I want.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Okay, I'm young to know what you want. You have
my number, do I?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yes? I ask for my number at I did, which
we'll get to. But then there was something deeper. Now, Jesse,
I host another podcast called but Are You Happy, which
is very different to this show tone wise, and we
talk about meaning and purpose and emotions enough, the very
heavy reality of the human experience, and a few listeners
(03:43):
we're just going to give but Are You Happier plug
on my watch. Well, a few listeners of that show
were messaging me being like, you have to listen to
this podcast with Andrew Garfield. It would be right up
your alley because I was like, okay, and it's an
episode of modern love where the idea is that it's
part interview, part someone reading a modern love essay from
the New York Times. And I've seen clips of this,
(04:06):
but I haven't actually watched it. Highly highly recommend. It
is beautiful.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
My wife hasn't worn a bikini for six years and
probably never will again. She says she's too old, which
makes me sad. She's a beautiful woman with gray and
her hair. My parents no longer drive at night.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Sorry, when you feel less like giggling and more like
contemplating the very essence of our existence, go listen to it.
But I do actually feel quite emotionally connected to Andrew Garfields.
I'm just putting that on the table. That's an important Yes,
it's about grief and longing and love and the idea
of accepting how limited we are email time on Earth. Okay,
(04:44):
what I'm going to bring right now is id' his
friends with Jamie DORNERA. Oh what a hot friendship. I
know he's actually in a really hot friendship group. Yeah, Okay,
who else I read about it? I feel like he's
semi friends with Tom Holland, both British, and they both
played Spider Man. Tom Holand is a little bit younger,
hang on. Let me find who else, because I just
(05:05):
Jamie Dornan is another man I connect. I'm looking at
a photo because everyone says he's got a hot group
of friends. Jamie Dornan is one of them. I guess
they're from like the same corner of the world. Not really.
Andrew Garfield grew up in Surrey, whereas Jamie Dorner. But
what I am seeing in this picture is that he
(05:26):
is with Lynn Manuel Miranda, so I'm going to assume
that very close friends. Yeah, okay, well he's friends with
Lynn Manuel because he was in Tictic Boom. Anyway, onto
the Lolls. He was also pictured with bo Burnham. Ah,
that is on a double date. He's a very hot
group of men. Andrew Russell Garfield didn't see that coming. No,
we're all shocked by the Russell is a very sexy boy.
(05:48):
Speaking of Garfield, we did a thing recently. We played
this game where everyone had to put a name into
a hat. Then you had to guess who would put
it in. So like you might put in Jennifer Lopez,
or you might put in Anthony Albeneasy, someone put in Garfield.
Fuck it got me like Garfield the cat. Yeah it
was so random. Yeah, I could not guess who'd done it. Yeah,
(06:08):
Garfield like someone I hadn't thought about in a while
as man as Nandy Say Garfield the Cat, Yes, what
was Garfield? Was it meant to be funny anyway? Andrew
Garfields has been in movies like The Social Network, The
Amazing Spider Man, The Amazing Spider Man Too, where he
played spider Man Hacksaw Ridge Never Let Me Go, great film.
(06:29):
He was very young. Tick Tick Boom, which I really
want to see. So he's a good singer, right, Oh
he can see the man yea flawless, flawless and tik
tic Boom was directed by Lynn Manuel Miranda. And that's
who his other friend is. His other friend was in
Lame Is Eddie Redmain. That's the other whole Wow, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah, what a lovely group of men. Garfield became
interested in acting at the age of sixteen when a
(06:50):
friend convinced him to take theater studies for his A levels,
which is the equivalent of like khsa eta as they
were one student short of being able to run the class.
And you just know that friend is like I could
have been Andrew Garfield if I just asked Boris to
join that class instead, but instead I asked Andrew Garfield.
You know when you're like he walked in and just
(07:10):
was a full thespion. Yeah, you know when you're like, hey, hey, Tarlie,
come join the netball team, and then Tarlie is the
best person on the netball team and you're like, well
that wasn't fucked her actually happened. You were meant to
just be a fill in. Yeah. Yeah, now you're better
than me, which is not difficult. My structure for today
is as follows, Spider Man method, acting, a meet, cute
(07:32):
times too, the most romantic date of all time, and
the moment the Internet broke spider Man. Andrew Garfield was
cast as Peter Parker in The Amazing Spider Man Got
a Knife the real Life. Yes, it's a real knife.
My weakness it's small knives. Wasn't my Spider Man was
Troby mcguith. Yes, yes, but I am a big fan
(07:53):
of every single Spider Man. I think you can't watch
Spider Man enough. I don't like it's it's a shared
interest of me and my husband's. Yeah, I feel like
it's a bit one. No, like you get bit by
spider and it stresses me out having your web No,
and then you do the web thing and it sticks
to places. Yeah, and then you just Spider Man. You
(08:14):
save things, and you go up against a goblin like
I just feel as though some pace. Sometimes there's an
Emma stone, Sometimes there's a cursed in Dunce. Sometimes there's
a Zendaya you just never know. Was his stone. And
they fell in love, I thought so. And they dated
for years. Yeah, they were together for quite a while,
and they're a bit on and off. But even last
year he went to the premiere of Poor Things, and
(08:35):
there's a video of the moment she spots him in
the audience and is really excited. Okay, she's married with
a child. To continue, Well, I'm just saying that they're
still on good terms. So what does that say? AnyWho?
He said many times that he had worn Spider Man
costumes when he was three, and he studied the movements
of athletes and spiders to get into the part and
did yoga and polates. That first movie well received. Things
(08:57):
are looking great. He's meant to be in like a
slew of Spider Man movies, right, He's meant to be
the next Spider Man after Toby McGuire. I love the
visual of him studying spiders just in a gutter, just
crouching in a scudder. Look at this and then it's firing.
But you know it's just sitting there or scurrying, which
I know how you No, does that that is that
helping your practice? I don't think so. Then the Amazing
(09:20):
Spider Man two comes out in twenty fourteen, and it's
got mixed critical reviews, and while it does very well
at the box office, in terms of the franchise, it's
like a box office low Okay, Yeah, so Spider Man
is low West, it's just not one of the lowest. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So it's not Kirston Duns and Toby maguire kissing upside down. No, no, no, no. Now.
(09:42):
He was meant to be in future installments of Spider Man. Yeah,
but they went in a different direction casting Tom Holland.
Oh I think I've seen a Tom Holland. Yeah, Spider Man. Yeah. Zendaya.
Now you might remember the infamous Sony hack of twenty
fourteen where they leaked a whole bunch of emails.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Well, the then head of Sony was mad at Andrew
Garfield because he didn't turn up for an event in
Brazil where the Amazing Spider Man three was meant to
be announced because he was sick. The email read here,
we are about one hour away from our gala, and
Andrew decides he doesn't want to attend. He has a
(10:19):
rather scruffy beard and he just wants to be left alone.
So that email got leaked by the head of Signy sick.
He's sick, the man leave the bead alone. I know
I have to say when my husband, when my husband
isn't well, he looks awful. I've always said it about
your husband. He does not wear sickness or tiredness.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Well.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
No, no. In a twenty sixteen interview with The Guardian,
Garfield was asked if he was fired from the role
after that after being a bit naughty and not coming
to the Brazil and he said no, I don't think so.
What I'll proudly say is that I didn't compromise who
I was. I was only over myself and that might
have been difficult for some people. We ain't yourself. You're
a spider yeah, win, he told The Daily Beast in
(11:03):
twenty fourteen. I think what happened was through the pre production,
production and post production. When you have something that works
as a whole and then you start removing portions of it,
because there was even more of it than was in
the final cut, and everything was related. I have no
idea what, but you're sounding very Demota Johnson on Madam
Webb and the through LINEID Spider Movies, Spider Movies send
(11:29):
us bit cuckoo. Yeah, he said, once you start removing
things and saying no, that doesn't work, then the thread
is broken. It's very syry. Yeah, and it's hard to
go with the flow of the story. What he was
saying he was making a comment on the creative process, right,
which is, you've got this great story, Spider Man, how
can it go wrong? Yeah? And I think he's trying
to say, throughout the production process it can go wrong.
(11:50):
We've got some plot holes, we've got some weirdness. Yeah.
And maybe he's saying the amazing Spider Man two was
not a work of art. Do we think Spider Man's done?
Absolutely No, which I will get to. I feel as
though you always think it's done and then there's a
new Spider Man and then you go to see it
at the movies, and it is excellent. It is highly entertained.
(12:12):
In one of Variety's Actors on Actors sessions, he admitted
that he was heartbroken by the experience of not getting
cast in future Spider Man's I don't think he's Spidery.
I look at Toby Maguire Spidery. I look at Tom
Holland Spidery, then Andrew Garfield, and maybe it's because I'm
thinking of the cat, but he's more catty. Well, this
(12:35):
was actually criticism. People said he was too hot, he's
too too he's a bit snaky, he's long and he's thin,
and that's not what Spider Man is. Okay, I disagree,
but it is a criticism. He told Amy Adams. I
signed up to serve the story and serve this incredible
(12:55):
character that I've been dressing as since I was three,
and then it gets compromised and it breaks your heart.
I got heartbroken a little bit. Tom Holland, who took
over the role, has since said that he regrets not
calling Garfield after being named as the new Spider Man.
And what I love about this story is that if
this were women a bitch fight, there'd be a cat
(13:16):
fight and it would be sex in the city, who
hates who you took her role? Blah blah blah. But
because it's men, we allow them the dignity. Yeah, of
peace and privacy, yes, Tom holand what they are all adults,
all they are all adults, and sometimes life goes this way. Yeah,
no drama there. I just need to have a chat.
I will, They'll move on. Kim Catrell, on the other hand,
(13:39):
absolute bit. Not really, not really. Tom Holland said, I
was nineteen when I got cast. I was so caught
up in getting the role that I never took any
time to think about what it must have been like
for him. If I'd made my second movie and it
didn't necessarily deliver in the way it should have done,
and they recast me, I would really struggle to bounce back.
Andrew bounce back in the most unbelievable way. I just
(14:01):
wish I'd called him and said, you know, I can't
turn down this opportunity. Man wasn't a believable spider crime.
He river, He's got more opportunities. It's fine, He's fine.
And of course, Dobey Maguire, Andrew Garfield and Tom Holland
all united for Spider Man No Way Home in twenty
(14:21):
film which you have you not seen it.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
I'm Peter Parker. I am Spider Man in my world.
But then yesterday I was I was just hearing Jesse.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You don't go and see spider films that lou standing cinema.
The scene, how how can they all coexist? Because there
were different universites. It was the multiverse. They're in a
room and the three of them addressed spiders. They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa,
And it's so funny and they're doing They're funny the thing. Yeah,
and it's super meta and self for a factional No, no,
(14:56):
it's really funny having the three of them. Okay, okay,
sounds finn. The dynamic was great. I think in those
films sometimes you can see in the eyes of the
people playing the characters in this film, not Spider I
saw a movie recently with some superhero I had to
watch it, the look in Paul Rudd's eyes. Oh, we
sold out. It's the end of his tether. Yeah. No,
(15:18):
but Spider Man, different story. Friends, We are doing a
live event canceled live at the University of Sydney. You
can come and see us in Real Life at the
Alumni Festival the University of Sydney on Saturday, November the thirtieth.
The event is free, but you have to register for tickets,
(15:39):
so we'll pop a link in our show notes for
that is just so lazy girl that we don't expect
you to pay. We would never know. Well, we shouldn't
say never, because one day we might like to profit,
but not now. Today is not that day. I think
it's going to be quite a almost an emotional event
because you and I both went. The last time we're
at Sidney UNI was when we were at Sydney UNI. Yeah,
(16:00):
what was when I was graduating. We were studying there. Yeah,
we're doing all of our courses in celebrities. Yeah, we
studied a degree in pop culture cancelations. We did, and
they offer that they don't. It's not off very good degrees.
There are a bunch of other events happening across the day.
They're not just putting the festival on for us. Oh
they might be. You would we call ourselves headliners? No,
(16:22):
because doctor Carl's going to be there, Oh my god. Yeah, yeah,
there are some brilliant events on. Go and have a look.
It is university of Sydney, November the thirtieth, See you There,
(16:47):
method acting. The man is a fan of method acting,
and he's got in trouble before for playing into stereotypes
when he's going method. In twenty seventeen, he was cast
as Prior Walter in the play Angels in America at
the National Theater in London. He was nominated for the
Lawrence Olivier Award for the role, but there was controversy
(17:10):
because his character is a gay man with aids and
Garfield is a straight man. He was criticized for taking
the role when people said it should have gone to
a member of the lgbt QI community. Was Matthew McConaughey
criticized for Dallas bias class I think so it wasn't
very loud. Maybe it was just a different time, at
a different time, and that criticism snowballed when Garfield was
(17:32):
asked how he prepared for the role, and in an
interview he said he'd watched documentaries, He'd done all this research,
and then he said he had watched every episode of
RuPaul's Drag Race and he said every Sunday I would
have eight friends over and we would watch rue. That's
my life outside of this play. I'm a gay man
right now, just without the physical act. That's all. A
(17:55):
lot of people in the lgbt QI community were like,
it's not about RuPaul, it's not about RuPaul. And I
will say that the lived experience of being a gay man,
of walking down the street holding hands with your boyfriend,
even in the most progressive countries in the world, it
can be really dangerous. I don't think I know any
gay man who hasn't experienced homophobia. I will say, I
(18:17):
do not know a gay man who has not watched
RuPaul's drive. I know, and that is two things can
be true. It's art, yes, now they did say it's
quite a reductive way to look at our identity. But
in an article in The Guardian, a journalist argued it's
not quite as bad as it sounds, because Garfield was
saying that in the context of saying that when he
(18:38):
was offered the role, he struggled with the fact that
he felt like he had no right to play that character,
and he clearly wasn't ignorant of what he was doing,
and he did a whole lot of research. He also
played a Jesuit priest in a twenty sixteen movie called Silence,
(19:00):
and he did all this research and learned about the
Jesuit lifestyle. So his idea of method is obviously not
like you and Jim Carrey. It's not Jim carry It's
just like you do a whole lot of research so
that you really feel like you know the character. Oh,
that's not method, that's just research. Well, he says, there
have been a lot of misconceptions about what method acting is.
(19:22):
He said, it's not about being an asshole to everyone
on set. Is actually about living truthfully under imagined circumstances
and being really nice to the crew simultaneously and being
a normal human being and being able to drop it
when you need to and staying in it when you
want to tell Jared that. Well, he said, I'm kind
of bothered by the misconception. I'm bothered by this idea
(19:44):
that method acting is fucking bullshit. Why did you go
on this round about method acting because he met Jim
Carrey of Robert pat who's one of his friends. Yeah,
but Robert Pattinson was being really dirty on method acting,
was he? Yes, so Pattinson, who has also tried and
practiced this technique cla when I read about the Guy Gang. Yeah,
(20:06):
I'm putting it together. It was Jamie Donnan, it was
Eddie Redmain, and it Robert patters Well, which surprised me.
He was the one who said actors try this approach
when portraying asshole characters. And he's not wrong though. No,
he said, I always say about people who do method acting,
you only ever see people do the method when they're
(20:27):
playing assholes. True. I need to know when you're on
stage and when you're off stage. I need to know
that between action and cut. That's the thing, that's the
safe space. I need to know there's a cut coming
and then I'll feel safe. It just feels like you
can't get out. That's when you go crazy. I think
that these two men are in agreement. Yeah, probably probably
(20:49):
if we had on the podcast. So we've done Jim Carrey,
Jared Leto, Yeah, both method actors. I think Leo goes
a little bit method. Who was Stany Dow Yes, he
went stanky. Yeah. And then Joaquin Phoenix is also known
as a method actor. I thought we haven't done him
on the show before, but maybe we will because there
was that stunt hunt that I don't think anyone understands,
(21:12):
including him. Just think we thought we'd understand it later
and we don't know. Moving on to why we're all
here and meet cute times too, Finally we get to
talk about Amelia de Moldenburg and Andrew Garfield. Now, for
those unaware, Amelia de Moldenberg is a British comedian who
is the creator and host of the web series Chicken
(21:33):
Shop Date. She's been doing for ten years. She has
During the dates, she interviews celebrities in fried chicken restaurants
with her very specific style of humor, and the idea
is that they are interviews framed as dates. She is
known for asking bizarre questions and leaning into the awkwardness
of these interactions. Because of the viral success of Chicken
(21:53):
Shop Date, she's interviewed people like Jennifer Lawrence, Paul Mescal,
Lewis Capaldi, Phoebe Bridges, and she's done presenting work on
red carpets and during one of those red carpet events,
she met a certain Andrew Garfield. Have you seen this video?
Have I seen this video? Yes? Well? In an interview
for British JQ, she interviews Garfield and she is very
(22:17):
surprised and excited when he knows who she is.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
You're great. You're kidding me, sho.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
I've been trying to get a date with you for
I have not I'm asking you out right now. She
says he looks good, and he says she looks beautiful.
You just take the compiment.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Yes, it's dress, but it's like kind of leather rope,
it's made of rubber robber. Wow.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Okay. As he's leaving, he's like, lovely to meet you,
and then he kind of hovers and he says, seriously
lovely to meet you. Yeah, I've never seen more chemistry
between her because he says lovely to meet you. Because
it's weird what you do. Weird is in good and
I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
No, brilliant, because it's weird you do. It's weird as
in good, very specific and unique, and.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I appreciate. I appreciate you. Enjoy bye, see ya. That
is compliment. If somebody looked at me and said it's weird,
you're weird and I like it, I'd be like, I
feel so seen, I feel seen. I feel like I'm
finally understood. Yeah, it is. It is what she does.
It is very weird what she does you know the
(23:38):
other thing? The reason I feel think it's weird what
we do, it is, it is what we do. It's
weird what he does. Yeah, it is weird what he does.
What's the hardest thing you've ever gone through? I was
a bad spider. Yeah weird. No one understands. Yeah, no
one understands. They vibed and the chemistry was there. Then
they see each other at the Golden Globes and they're
(23:58):
giggling straight away. There's this moment of recognition and she,
she very rarely breaks breaks around him. Yeah, she breaks
around and she sees him, and he has a joke
about like, oh, you saw me in like winced and
she's like, no, I didn't, I saw it. Like She's
like yeah. Now she says, we must stop meeting like this,
and he says, I only ever.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Want to see you.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
That's what.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
I don't ever want to see you in these kinds
of situations.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
What about other kind of situations? Not interested? Actual sense.
I was going to write to my birthday party, where's
your birthday party? That's your the January. Actually I'm an Aparius, that's.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Your If you have a sun sign, that's the same
as the moon sign as someone else.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
It's not good. No, it's good. That was good. Why
is an issue?
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Well, because I don't I don't think we should explore this.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Okay, well I'm not even asking.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
To you, I know, but I'm just like, you want
to state you're obsessed with me.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
I'm scared of what it could turn into.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I'm not ready for that time.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I'm not ready for it.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Oh okay, well I am. She's like, you're obsessed with me? Yes.
She starts asking a serious question and he's like you're
not going to ask a serious question right now? And
she's like, yes, I am. And he can't keep a
straight face and he's like are you seriously going to
ask this? And she's asking about like you play a
lot of religious role like like mate, just go on
(25:29):
a day. Then yes. Then he's like he's like, no, no,
go ask a question, and she's clearly so flustered that
it's just a stapement. This is her question. She's like,
you play lots of religious characters and he's like that's
not a question, and then she looks at him and goes,
why it's just a vibe. Yes, it's just a vibe.
(25:51):
So that is to meet you, Yes, the perfect which
is how we are imagine it's gonna go when we
find ourselves on a red carpet with a microphone. Yes,
and we sit there and we go when he walks past,
he is going to go, oh my god, it's the
love of my life. You're beautiful, And instead what happens
is you say, can we speak to this person? They
(26:13):
say no, it doesn't want to speak to you, and
you go, I'm going to cry. O lovely. Now. The
reason we can't look away is because there is something
slightly uncomfortable about it. Yeah, it's awkward, yeah, but is
that because they're truly in love? Yes, which takes us
to the most romantic date of all time.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
I think we'd have a really nice time without the camera.
We just enjoy each other's company. Maybe not fuck.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
It, Jess, have you watched the date? I haven't watched
the date before, not yet. I've only watched clips, I
mean beyond okay, as I've been on Beyonce tik tok oh. No.
I know now the clips you've seen, that's your bad.
There is just so much chemistry and I can tell that.
Andrew Garfield is clearly like, would we be on a
date if it weren't for all this, all these lights
(26:58):
and all these people here, would you really go on
a date with me? And she's clearly like, well, I
don't know, because she's trying to like act cool. It's like,
is anything said? No? Is he interviewed? Absolutely not. Do
we get anything out of it?
Speaker 3 (27:13):
No?
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Only vibes only, and I've never got more. Okay, I'm
going to do a recap. Okay, it's an eleven minute video. Wow,
I've watched it several times. Okay, they're at Sam. It's
the home of great tasting chicken. Yes, she loves like
a chicken out. I have more comments about saying later
on Okay, because there's a lot of b roll of
Sam throughout. Well, I would imagine that they've given free chicken. Yeah.
(27:37):
They begin by making a joke that the vibes were
so strong he was avoiding her for two years after
those red carpeting directions. So hot. Yeah, he says, I
don't like games, Amelia. Don't say her name. It's disquieting. Yeah,
it makes me feel funny when you say her name. Well,
you know why they couldn't go on this date because
he had a girlfriend. He had a girlfriend, and is
it a coincidence that they've only gone this date now
(27:59):
that he and the girlfriend are broken up? I think not.
She's like, ah, your spidy sense is tingling right now,
and he's like hot, you get one of those and
no more, but then another one and it's like, yeah,
he wants a real talk because he wants to connect
with you emotionally. Yeah. She asks him snog, marry, avoid
Toby tom Amelia demoldover I love it, And he's like,
(28:25):
I don't want to avoid anyone, but I guess you
And she's like what, and he looks at her.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
And says, this is called flirting.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Why am I smiling? Why am I blushing? As an aside,
I want to go to Sam's. Okay? Do they look good?
As does the soft drink? It looks chilled appropriately. Does
it look like that they would have extra chicken salt?
I get to this later on, but yes, okay, they're
having ginger beer, and I think she says during it
that she doesn't like ginger beer anyway. She asks do
(28:56):
you kiss on a first date? And then she glances
to the camera. She breaks the fourth wall. There's then
footage of the person working there trying to stand the
little packet of chips up on the like silver tray
and they keep and I'm like, whoever has edited this
is a creative genius. He says he thinks it's sexy
and really hot that she goes for what she wants
(29:17):
in terms of dating, and she says, that's what I think.
She's like, sometimes I worry about how much I get rejected,
but I put myself out there more than everyone else.
That's why I get rejected so much. Correct. He gives
her a high five for her courage love it. He's like,
what do you try and do to make it happen romantically?
And she's like, you just try to get with them.
(29:39):
And then he does an impersonation of her physically trying
to get with someone, and she's like, exactly, but she's
actually laughing. She's actually and does not break. She does
not break, And she's like, oh, that's funny. She asks
if he has ever been on a date to see
his own movie. His answer is no, actually, well he
(29:59):
pretends yes, then he says no, he's aware of all
her moves, like he's kind of like analyzing her as
she goes, yeah, yeah, and she says, I knew you'd
do this. She says it's fun He's like, does it
frustrate you? And stop blurting? She says, I like it
because it's funny someone seeing what I do. And he
(30:19):
says and naming it. Okay, this is so mad. Okay,
this is just basically like fifty shades, says. He then says,
and you go slightly red and she's like what she
goes slightly red? Now back to Sam's. Sam's chicken giving
caves is it? Is it the menu board? Oh, they
(30:40):
have chicken burgers with cheese, Oh, little boxes? It looks
really good? Does it genuinely great ad for Sam's if
anyone loves new SAMs? And then in terms of the chips,
what's the thickness? It looks like I'd say they're between
a McDonald's chip and a KS chip. Maybe not quite
(31:02):
as thick as KFC chips, but looks excellent. And I
see the salt. No, but the crispiness of the chicken
suggests that there's chicken salt. He asks how her thirtieth
was because on the red carpet she had made a
joke about her thirtieth, and she's like, did you like
being thirty? Can you remember? Because he's in his early forties, Okay,
(31:22):
you're old? Yeah, yeah, And he's like, bitch. He says,
you're funny. You're a funny person, and she says you're
funny too, and he says, eh, you're funnier and then
she accepts it, which I love. Why is this the
biggest compliment? He's like, I appreciate that quality in you.
And in a date, she's like, I think that we
(31:43):
there's something going on?
Speaker 4 (31:44):
Do you actually think that?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
For the I do think it's interesting that we if this.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Wasn't here, do you think we'd actually have it go
on a day? This has sucked up the fact that
we could have actually gone on a date at some point. Maybe.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
He's like, I actually believe maybe we could have without
all of it? But why? She why is chalking in
past tense? They're both think it changes? Okay. She says
he's afraid of it. Okay, I love it. That's so hot.
He says, I'm a very private person in my private life.
She says, I'm more private than you. Actually, have you
ever seen me with anyone? And he says that doesn't
(32:16):
mean you're private. It just means you're not with anyone,
which was a real nag. Yeah, And it was also
like I just wanted to come in and go. It's
also because she's not nearly as famous. I don't think
she's being packed. No. No, Also it's her job to
go on date. Yeah. He asks, do you want to
be married? Do you want to have children? Yeah? Like,
what are your ultimate longings? I love that they're proper chatting.
(32:39):
He refers to it as an interview, and she's like,
stop calling it an interview, it's a date. She asks,
So you've been nominated for an Oscar, you've not won
when you're gonna win an Oscar, which is exactly what
you want to ask everyone. Hey, you, why haven't you
won one of them big awards? Yeah? He says, like
I wanted to win, and now like I don't know,
maybe it's just not gonna happen. And she says, probably
(33:00):
when you stop caring is what it will happen. Apparently
that's what happens with love as well. Then she says,
that's why I've been so relaxed today, because I actually
just given up. He says, I don't think you can
give up with intention. He says, would you be more
attracted to me if I had the Academy Award? And
(33:21):
she says yeah, And he's like, fuck, my longing is
back for it. She says, sounds it's okay, you're already
kind of hot. He says, I think we'd have a
really nice time without the camera. We'd enjoy each other's company, okay.
And she's like, you have my number? And he's like
do I? And she's like, yes, you asked for my
(33:43):
number at a party and he says I did. He says,
this should be a practice round. Then what is this
just a stick?
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
We're just being set up here because I don't have
time for it. I don't have time to get this
investor in something. No, but I for eleven minutes straight,
I simply smiled at my score. One of those people
is a method actor, so we'll just write him off. Yeah.
The other one has a stick, but isn't a method actor.
And the thing is that in this date, she breaks,
(34:16):
she breaks, She never So what do we know about
what's happened? Since? Oh we don't? Okay, all right, I
think it's a private but all right, but what we
do have is reactions? All right, my head, they're performers,
my heart their so mate, That's exactly how I feel,
exactly it. What are some of the comments? This one
has thirteen point three thousand likes. I'm telling my kids
(34:39):
this is the Royal couple. Love more chemistry, I'll because
they're British too. Yeah, this has seven and a half
thousand likes. I'm not even being remotely dramatic when I
say this is the greatest eleven minutes and forty seconds
of media I have ever consumed. I actually completely agree.
And then someone who's a brand well played has written,
so when's chicken shop wedding? Yeah, they need a wedding
(35:01):
in a chicken shop. Imagine getting catered from a chicken shop,
how happily, I guess would be great meals for a wedding.
There is an Instagram comment that says, no, you don't
underst And I've had this on loop for an hour
straight and I can't stop smiling and blushing. Yes, I
think people are getting physical reactions to this. Hard relate. Now,
can you describe the text and the expression in this meme?
We've got a shopped cat and it says it's called flirting, Amelia,
(35:23):
It's called flirting, and the cat is so shooken. And
then we've got this is a tweet. Chicken Shop Date
twenty twenty four starring Andrew Garfield and Amelia de Moldenberg
is the best rom com of the year. It's so true.
They're got all the tension, it's got all the steaks.
It's just bloody beautiful. Are you going to bring the
(35:51):
witch to the table or am I going to bring
the witch to the table? Witch? Oh my gosh, you
forgot about the witch. Andrew Garfield dated a witch? Oh no,
So her name is Kate to Mars. She's an academic.
She has a PhD. So that's doctor Kate to Mass
to you, she's a doctor in being a witch. She's
(36:12):
not technically a doctor and being a witch. That is unrelated.
Doctor Kate to Mass describes herself as a professional witch
and spiritual mentor. She has a PhD in theology from Oxford.
From the podcast I've listened to with him, from the
little research I have done into him, the fact that
he would date someone of the PhD does not surprise me. Continue. Yeah,
(36:34):
So basically they were photographed out with Bo Burnham and
Phoebe Bridges. I think maybe he was doing the Broadway
version of Inside, like bo Burnham's Inside. I think I
might have read that. I might have not, who knows. Okay,
they're photographed, and then what happens is on Instagram someone
comments on Kate's one of her posts being like, Tellandrew
(36:55):
Garfield I love him or something, and she's like, we're
actually not dating anymore, but he'd love to know that.
So he's always on good terms with the exits. Don't
know why they broke up. Why. So she has been
posting a lot of stuff since October seven, right, and
she said like, if you have a public platform, I
really think you need to post, and you're being a
coward and blah blah blah, and a lot of people went,
this is awkward because Andrew Garfield is not posting yep.
(37:18):
And then there was an article that went up that
was like, we think the reason that they've broken up
is because of he's not politically progressive enough for her,
and then she screenshot that article and put it in
her stories with a tick next to her is why
that broke up? But then in the last few weeks
(37:39):
he was interviewed, yep in a very public situation. Yes,
and he brought up Palestine. He did exactly right, And
a lot of people said, it's easy to look at
this and think it's not a lot. Yeah, but in
the context of Hollywood, Yep, it actually is. Yeah. So
he has kind of started speaking since they've yeah, since
(38:01):
they've split. Interesting, very and she got ruthlessly trold because
she was dating Andrew Garfield and she wasn't a famous person.
So I think a lot of people were making fun
of her being a witch. Oh okay, but it's like,
let her be a witch, you know. Yeah, I want
a friend who's a witch. Me too, Jesse. It is
time for charges and sentences. My charge. You're so serious,
(38:25):
so serious? All right, he's flirting with us? What he's
flirting with us? No he's No, he's not. He's flirting
with Amelia. He's flirting with me. And the date made
me feel weird. Yeah, in my spidy senses, all right, Dingled,
I felt tingles in the space a web hump in
spaces where the web emerges from there's something quite sexual
(38:47):
about the web. I think that they're emerging Freudian about
our obsession with spider Man and how we put white
gears like stuff on walls and then chase it so
you like it. I'm married with a child. Okay, what's
your sentence? Sentence? Well, if you won't date me, date
a million, dat a million. Yeah. I genuinely think watching
(39:11):
the response to this, I know it's like, oh ha
ha ha oh. He's an actor. She knows what she's doing.
This is her bit. Rah rah rah. We live in
a very divided world where things are quite heavy. Yeah.
What we need is to be a part of something, Yeah,
and to be included, yes and involved. Yeah. I need
(39:32):
this to work so that we can be part of
a journey together as a culture. Yeah, in the chicken shop.
In the chicken shop, because I think the journey of
having watched them meat on a red carpet twice and
then knowing that he asked for her number at a
party and then literally watched she had been left out
(39:53):
by that point. We weren't there at the party, and
that pisses me off because because I wished to be
like For some reason, and this may not be true,
I feel like it was the after party of one
of the awards shows. I don't know why. That's fine,
that's fine, And so I'm like, well, I guess it
was slightly off camera, but we saw you earlier in
the day. Yeah, So I genuinely think it would make
(40:13):
us all feel very included. And I think Amelia to Moldenburg,
there's actually something quite profound about what she does and
that I think she represents the every girl, all the funny,
weird girls who felt like when we went on dates,
guys didn't get our jokes and that maybe they were
(40:34):
just kind of looking at us up and down and
wondering why we didn't look like Adriana Lima. Yeah, there
was a bit of that, Yeah, And I think there's
something quite healing about watching a man value a woman
for her sense of humor, especially when that sense of
humor is weird as fuck. Yeah it is, and not
(40:56):
everyone gets it. Yeah, And she doesn't speak to him
like a celebrity. That's what I love is she just
puts them all down and she's like, try and impress me.
And it's genuinely really funny. It is really Funny's so
so good my sentences. I need them to get married,
and I need you to be If they get married,
there's no more fucking chicken shop. Tell you that because
no more day it's because you're married, unless they're polyamorous. Yeah, never,
(41:16):
there's actually do talk about monogamy. In the interview, he
asked if she wants to be a monogamous and I
don't know if she directly so, she's not fussed about
marriage or children. I think she just wants partner in tried. Yeah,
I wanted to be a royal wedding. Yeah, I wanted
to have all the trimmings royal. We got accent with
a reception in the chicken stop can love Okay, my
(41:39):
charge and it has been a recurring theme and it's
probably the only thing we can charge him with in
terms of guilt not being spidery enough. Ah, and he
has been punished for that. Yeah, and that he lost
his bloody job he loved, he lost his job. My
sentence is his proximity to a witch. Mm hmm is
(42:01):
something that I'm not benefiting enough from. If my friend said, oh,
I dated a witch for a few years, more content
out of that. I have some questions. Yeah, I think
witchcraft is a little bit like dating a magician, Okay,
in terms of tell me how he does the trick. Yeah,
so does she do potions? Yeah? You know how in
(42:21):
the movie Witches she doesn't really ties. She just had
a square foot? Is that a thing? She still have
square foot? Yeah? This is what we need to know. Yep.
Did she have a caldron?
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Like?
Speaker 2 (42:30):
I have all of those questions because Kate Tamas you
have to have a six month commitment with her if
you want to work with her as like a witch doctor,
and she will charge you eight thousand dollars a month.
So what's eight thousand time six? It's like fifty thousand dollars.
I'm feeling quite confident about that. So confused about a
(42:51):
witch doctor. Yeah, she's a witch to It's weird because
she is a doctor, not in doctor. No, no, no, she
did like mystresism or something. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so
she's really smart, but she's a witch. And I just
think he could dish more on the witch thing.
Speaker 1 (43:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
If I was on a date with Andrew Garfield, I'd
be like, tell me about Eric. She sounds interesting. She
sounds very interesting. Great point in the first sentence of
Chicken Shop Date, he's the word curse, which made me worried.
Familiar Oh no, yeh did she is that X is
gonna put a bit of a curse on him one
hundred percent. Oh wow, great point, Jesse. I have a
(43:27):
lazy girl storry for us to round out the show. Okay,
she's a lazy girl. This is from Kate. Hey there,
I have a lazy girl take for you. We all
know about the lazy girl tax. Yes, about the lazy
girl tax before, she said, like the time I left
fifty dollars on a plane and couldn't be bothered calling
to see if they'd found it. Well, you know what
I did is I left my AirPods on a plane,
(43:48):
and I did call to see if they could find it.
And I think they called back, but I didn't answer,
Oh because I'm no number. I no number, And I
was like, I'm not just going to answer some random number.
And I've lost my air pods and they're worth like
two hundred dollars. Yeah, not going to buy another pair,
she said. But being a lazy girl sometimes pays off too,
Like the time I had to quit my job but
procrastinated and they ended up making everyone redundant, so I
(44:13):
got six weeks pay to not work in brackets. Ultimate
lazy girl hack she's a lazy girl. That's actually Jean,
redundancy is such a lazy girl, such a lazy Just wait,
if you wait around enough, you'll probably be made redundant.
You actually will. Yeah, and you get paid for not working.
And that's honestly like the greatest skift.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
No.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
I just think in a lazy girl's life, there is
no better period than when she is not working yet
she is still being paid as salary and benefits and sickly, Ah,
lazy girls should be able to live a redundant, a
life of redundancy. Thank you so much for joining us
on this episode of Canceled. Canceled is produced by Kimberly
(44:57):
Bradish with audio production by Leah Porgess. If you have
a minute, leave us five star reviews. We would like
that some of the reviews are me. We like nice reviews. Okay, lovely,
We'll be back next week.
Speaker 4 (45:08):
Bye z
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