October 28, 2024 • 48 mins
Sorry in advance to the Beyhive.... Beyoncé Giselle Knowles, welcome to the Cancelled courtroom!
Look, this ain't Texas, and thank goodness for that, because their rules are slightly more intense than ours.
Alright, Queen Bey, we’re not here to trash your talent (because let’s face it, her fans would hunt us down) and why would we? Your voice is Irreplaceable. But from failing to ref a family smackdown to the conspiracy theory that brought us to tears (yep, really), there's a lot Bey has to answer for.
So, is Beyoncé to blame for everything? Definitely not! But, you know, maybe just a little?
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
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Speaker 3 (01:36):
Knows, she knows, she knows.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
She knows, like I know she knows. Do you know?
I know the sound? But I don't know what she knows.
You don't. I don't know what she knows. She knows
something and it will make sense in time. But I
need you to have that suck in your head, okay,
because I've had that song suck in my head for
a week. It's why you've been gonna weird later. And
it's tangentially related to Beyonce. Okay, cool cool? Who's that song?
(02:02):
By jackol Okay? Okay cool cool? Hello, and welcome to Canceled.
It is a lazy girl's guide to bizarre so pretty cancelations.
I am Jesse Stevens. I'm joined by Claire Stephens. Claire,
I asked you for this episode to not watch any
Beyonce tiktoks and that wasn't so hard because for context,
I am on a book deadline, so I have been
(02:25):
I've done that thing where I've deleted TikTok from my
like home screen, but it's still there. If I just
swipe an extra screen so you try not to go
on TikTok. So I'm like, oh my god, no social media,
no social media. And then next minute I'm in the
shower watching tiktoks. Yeah. Shit, that's when you know things
have gotten dire. But I'm not on Beyonce. Ta okay,
good good. Today's episode is all about Beyonce, Giselle Noles Carter.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Crazy holds are cut down, down, down now.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So I don't really get to gangster.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
But I am a businesswoman and I quiet gangster.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I should say, I'm so glad we haven't done her before,
just because we can now do her with a conspiracy theory.
And that's fine. Exactly our previous canceled producer, Telissa. She's
gone off to have a baby. Yeah, while she's in
the Bee Hive, she would never have led us do
(03:33):
such a thing. She can't stop it. As a push present,
we're doing Beyonce to upset her, to cause her distress
at one of her more vulnerable time Dedicated to Telissa.
Beyonce is an American singer, songwriter, and businesswoman. She rose
to fame in the late nineteen nineties as part of
Destiny's Child, and yeah, we know we were there. We
(03:54):
were I remember the film clip the Nun Survivor. I'm
not going yeah anyway, they're wearing army gear. You're very Michelle, very,
You're very Michelle. No, I'm not. Who's the other one? Oh? Note,
that's Michelle. Who's the other Kelly Kelly? Okay, you're not
Kelly Michelle in order of importance that goes beyond like
(04:15):
Kelly Kelly. Everyone knows that. Claire. Would you like to
hear about when her singing voice was discovered? Hmmm? Was
she like too? She was in a dance class as
a young girl when a dance instructor was just humming
a song and Beyonce finished it off and she hit
the high note effortlessly. She won a school talent show
at seven where she sung Imagine by John Lennon. I
(04:37):
would have brought everyone to tears, which I too have
performed to try out for a choir when just at Skull,
not recently, not adult years, but at school, I sung
if you can't sing, don't sing that. It's not it's
not it's not good because imagine, there's no it's a
(04:59):
very one note. Didn't get in with that one, but
she did. Rolling Stone has named her the world's greatest
living entertainer and one of the greatest vocalists of all time.
And she's simultaneously considered wildly overrated and wildly underrated, which
is what happens when you are a woman doing your job. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
She's married to jay Z and has Blue Ivy, who
is twelve, and twins Roomy and Sir, who are seven.
It makes me sad that I remember pregnant and I
remember her being pregnant with Blue Ivy. Oh my goodness. Yeah,
because you know how pregnancy post with Rumy and so
was the most liked image ever on Instagram up until
that moment. And that was the one where she was
sitting there and it was like the whole thing. But
(05:40):
the Blue Ivy one, she was on stage, she was
performing and then she just got out of bump. It
was so classy. My favorite Beyonce songs personally, ah if
I were a boy, oh stn in Halo yep, irreplaceable,
in box the Left. I've been known to sing a
halo on carry karaoke. And of course I'm a big
(06:00):
fan of Texas Hold him Baal like the country album.
I thought it was a bit of fun. I think
that was a misstep. Okay, I don't like I've said everyone, No,
I don't like Joline. Well, Joline comes up. My structure
for today is as follows. Questionable lyrics, Becky with the
good hair and Solange in a lift that's actually one subheading,
(06:23):
jay Z being an Awards guy, huh, and the Beyonce conspiracy.
I just think that the Beyonce conspiracy is so fun. Alright,
I'm really looking forward. Okay, that questionable lyrics. In twenty thirteen,
Beyonce was canceled by astronauts. Did you know this? No,
I hate when you get canceled by astronauts. I didn't
(06:43):
think they had Wi FI a lot of the time. Oh,
like literal astronauts who were currently in space. I don't
know if they are currently in space, but they're very important.
Like for them to take issue with Beyonce would hurt.
She released this song It's called XO and I'm going
to play you the beginning my controllers. You're looking very
carefully at the situation.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Obviously a major malfunction.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Did you hear those words at the beginning? A malfunction?
There's been a malfunction, Claire. That is a sample from
the nineteen eighty six Space Shuttle Challenger explosion, which killed
all seven crew members on board. Some media didn't understand
its relevance because XO is a love song, and astronauts
as well as the loved ones of some crew members,
(07:26):
voiced their discomfort with the sampling. So what that beginning
says is basically what the voiceover was saying when they
realized that the Challenger was going to explode. Yeah. Wow,
it's almost like it's not like this, but you know
when you go to the nine to eleven Museum in
New York and you hear the phone calls, Yeah, the
people may Yeah, it's a little bit that. It's a
(07:46):
little I wouldn't sample them in pop music. No, And
one astronaut said to me it seemed to be totally
irrelevant and the use of it insensitive. I have to
agree with the irrelevance point. I don't see how it's
relevant to a love song beyond them exactly to XO.
And Look, I've actually interviewed a few astronauts whenever I'm
doing a project and they say we've got an astronaut
on oh hi, I stopped my feet. I get so excited,
(08:10):
I go. I have so many questions about stuff and
the universe. Imagine being like astronaut. We're looking for an
astronaut for your opinion on Beyonce. What a surprise, Like, Oh,
I've literally seen the world from above. Yeah, I know
more about space than you can possibly imagine. Yeah, yeah,
but what do you think of this sampling in this song?
(08:30):
The widow of Dick Scobie, who died in the disaster, said,
the moment included in this song is an emotionally difficult one, right,
So pretty universally people were like, this is jarring. Do
you think Beyonce knew what it was? What it was? Yes?
So Beyonce then comes out and she's like, hang on,
there's a reason I use this audio. She said. The
(08:51):
song XO was recorded with the sincerest intention to help
heal those who have lost loved ones and to remind
us that unexpected things happen. So love and appreciate every
minute that you have with those who mean the most
to you. And a bunch of critics in like really
well respected magazines and papers were then like, hang on,
this song is actually about mortality and how things can
suddenly go horribly wrong, and by then I think the
(09:13):
astronauts were in space or something like. This story is done.
We do have other removed priorities. But there was friction
between Beyonce and NASA. Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean when
you're Beyonce, you get a little bit put down by
people thinking that your art is lowbrow. And perhaps what
she was trying to do there with some highbrow art. Yes,
(09:36):
exactly right. She was trying to make a point, she
was trying to double in history. I understand her defense.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Another lyric controversy Monica Lewinsky. In the same year, Beyonce
releases the song Partition, and this is one of the lyrics.
He popped all my buttons and he ripped my blouse.
He Monica lewinskied all on my gown, Claire, Can you
see anything wrong with this? A lyric in terms of
the choice of verb, Monica Lewinsky isn't a verb, but
(10:05):
it is being used as a verb. Yeah, to think
about it. Think about it? No, I know, grammatically, do
you think it works? No, because Monica Lewinsky didn't Monica Lewinsky, Yeah, exactly.
Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton on Monica Lewins. Lewinsky took grammatical
issue with the lyrics because technically he clinton all over
(10:26):
my gown. Yeah. In twenty twenty two, Beyonce released her
album Renaissance, and on the song Heated, she included a
word that is considered by some to be an able slur.
I say considered by some because in other certain contexts
it actually refers to partying a bit hard right. Nevertheless,
(10:47):
when the backlash emerged, Beyonce was like, look, I'm actually
I'm Beyonce. I might just change it. It's not what
I intended. I'm just going to change the lyric. And
I was like, go you, Beyonce. And then Lewinsky tweeted
and was like, while you're there, yeah, while you're making edits.
Why are you making edits because there's just a piece
of paper just here. I'd like you to make a
quick edit on. And Beyonce said, not you, not you, Monica.
(11:10):
I actually really like my line about Monica. Lewinsky doesn't
have the same thing, and it's a bit clunky. It's clunky.
We all knew what she meant. It doesn't have to
make sense. It's like everyone says about the song Ironic
by Alarnast Morrison. Oh none of irony. Well, it doesn't matter.
It just's vibe and it's like, well, that is what
irony is now, Yeah, you know it doesn't make sense,
(11:30):
like I can't define irony, but I know the lyrics
to that song. So Becky with the good hair and
Solange in a lift? Who is Becky and why it's
her hair? So I love me. I've thought a lot
about Becky with the good hair, right, and it's like,
I can picture the hair. What do you see? It's
sorry to the blondes out there, it's brown yep, could
(11:53):
be auburn, okay, but I see it as brown. I
see it as shiny and thick. What would you say
if I said in my notes right now, I do
possess an image of who I believe to be Becky
with the good hair, as in celebrity wise, the real
Becky with the good hair. Who is it? Well, I'm
going to show you if you do, but it features
the hair, So I'm just interested in what you're saying. Okay, well,
(12:15):
I've got a very clear image of the hairk Okay.
It all begins in twenty fourteen at a met Gala
after party, when CCTV footage is published from inside the
elevator at a fancy hotel in New York. In it,
we see Solange Knowles, Beyonce's younger sister, attacking a jay
Z in an elevator. Do you remember not attacking a
jay Z? Yes? Yes, no, I do. Yes. It was
(12:37):
described as clawing and kicking. Okay, it's weird that we've
kind of forgotten this culturally, have we though?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Well?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Did you recall that Beyonce was also in the lift
and Beyonce didn't do a single thing. Mm, she just watched.
I feel like he was almost so chaotic that we're like,
do not process, move on. Yeah. I didn't really lean
into this story that much. I was kind of like,
let them have their issues, Let them have their issues,
and we all know what it's about. So they ended
(13:05):
up releasing a statement being like Lolsorroy worked it out.
Nothing to see here, and the internet was like na
na na na na. Jay Z cheated on Beyonce, yes,
and I was we simply must know more details because
we are invested now. Ever since we saw them fighting
inside the elevator that we caught together, we're all in
(13:26):
elevated together. Were you caused a ruckus. We're gonna need
to know underlying cause of the ruckus. It's also, in hindsight,
quite relatable in that if your husband cheated on you,
you might be broken. I'm ready to hit you, are ready,
I'm ready to attack and or claw. I can do
(13:47):
that for you situations. I've thought about cloring your husband.
He hasn't even cheated, He's just annoyed me. And elevators
are You're trapped? You trapped? A security guard pulled her off.
There were lots of divorce rumors, but nothing was confirmed.
Then in twenty sixteen, Beyonce releases the album Laminade. It
tells the emotional journey that she experienced after the infidelity
(14:09):
of her husband with Becky with the Good Jay z
aka Sean Cory Carter. On the track Sorry, she says
death to side chicks, and she sings, he only want.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Me when I'm not.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
You better call beg you with the cool hair. You
better call beck you with the good hair.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
As a result of my thorough investigating, I have deduced
that Becky with the Good Hair was a side chick
and Beyonce, they did not like it. Okay, people think
Becky in this context is a white woman, and good
hair can refer to long, straight hair and black communities.
There were rumors that Becky was reader Aura, but she
promptly shut those rumors down. But then fans stumbled upon
(14:59):
designer Rachel Roy, who has had a lot of business
dealings with jay Z. The name Rachel is giving Becky.
Do you know what I mean? Rachel and Becky name
which exist in the same universe, to me, absolutely have
exactly the same energy. Yep yep. Around the time of
the Lemonade release date, this, Rachel Roy posted something on Instagram.
(15:20):
She posted good hair, don't care, but we will take
good lighting for selfies or self truths. Always live in
the light hashtag no drama queens. So like, did you
have sex with jay Z once? Or like three times? Yeah?
The post has since been deleted because the Beehive aka
our former producer Toelyssa swarmed and predictably got a little intense. Also,
(15:45):
right before the lift incident, apparently at the met gala,
Solange yelled at Rachel Oh was Rachel there? She was
there because she's a designer. Okay, Claire, I present to you,
Rachel Roy. Tell me what you notice about her. She
has good hair. Okay, so what I noticed? Yeah, that's
the hair I pictured. It is thick, yeah, shine, beautiful color,
(16:08):
a dark hair, beautifully. Yeah. You look at her and
say she has great hair, you would, you would. She's gorgeous.
She has lovely hair. Beyonce also has lovely hair while
we're here, it's lunge lovely hair. But I think this
is Becky with the good hair. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
In the years since, jay Z has admitted to cheating
on Beyonce in his music but also in interviews. Then
this year, Beyonce releases Cowboy Carter and she's like, you
know what, I still fucking hate Becky. Yeah. I like
that They've created so much content out of an affair. Yeah,
that's what people need to do. If if you get
cheated on, you cry, your sister does an attack, and
(16:45):
then you create content that you can monetize. So she
does a remake of Joline where Dolly Puton opens the
song with hey.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Miss Honeybee, it's darly.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
B you know about Horsey with the good hair you
sing about reminded me of someone on you back Win,
except she has flame and LOKs of auburn hair.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Bless your heart, just a hair of a different colors,
just the scene.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Beyonce tweeked the lyrics to basically be like, bitch, stand back,
leave jay Z alone, or I will talk about your
hair again. Firstly, imagine being this widely known for having
great hair. If I were her, I would identify myself.
I would make a hair CareLine. It's actually called with
good hair. It's quite passive aggressive, or it's like quite
(17:34):
like a compliment in disguise. The Beyonce's like, I hate
you beyond hair, but I'm not gonna say you don't
have good hair because you do. It would sound mean
if she called o Becky with the bad hair, yeah, yeah, heady,
it wouldn't be queen behavior. But to call o'becky with
the good hair, it's like, you have good hair, You're
still ah that. Secondly, the reason Beyonce has copped it
(17:59):
is because meanwhile her and jay Z are making albums together,
they're raising their kids, They've repaired their relationship. But when
she brought it back for Joline and was still like
fuck Becky, the criticism was like, Becky, isn't your husband?
Why we're still talking about Becky? Why are we still
dragging her. Why are we fighting over a man? Do
you have any comments about jay Z's hair? Because I
(18:20):
cannot picture j Z's hair. I don't know if he
has hair. Yeah, yeah, with not as a culture dissected
his hair enough. No, I mean the man's profited off
his own affair. I read that he'd written all these
songs about it. I was like, I don't want to
know what jay Z has to say about Becky as
a family, they've done well off of this affair. I
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Speaker 3 (19:48):
Enjoy.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Jay Z is an awards guy and I get it
because I'm also an awards guy. You're an awards guy.
Sometimes we need external validation. Arrest us. We're nominated in
the Australian Podcast Awards. We are We're not going to
win in the comedy category. We will not win. But
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(20:26):
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Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yes, yes yes.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
In being an awards guy, though he has really dragged
Beyonce into it. At the twenty twenty four Grammys in February,
Beyonce was nominated for Album of the Year and she
lost to Taylor Swift for Midnights. While jay Z was
accepting the Doctor Dre Global Impact Award, he called out
the ceremony. He started by talking about the history of
black artists at the Grammys, and then he said.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
We want you to get it right, at least get
it close to right. And obviously it's subjective. You don't
got to clap at everything. Obviously obviously is subjective because
you know, as music and his opinion bass.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
He looks at Beyonce, Oh no, and he says.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I don't want to embarrass this young lady, but she
has more Grammys than everyone and never one album of
a year. So even by your own metrics, that doesn't work.
Think about that, the most Grammys, never one album of
the year. That doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I can't overstate how pissed off jay Z is that
Beyonce has never one album and it keeps them out
up at night. Okay, so this is the thing, this
is the hole in the argument. You've won more Grammys
than anybody else, and yet you haven't won enough, so
you go more Grammy, Grammy, and it's not fair. But
(21:46):
it's not fair that you haven't won more. Yeah, you've
won more Grammys than anyone else. We haven't won that Grammy. Therefore,
the Grammy discriminates against Beyonce, who's one of the most
Grammys out of everyone you know, who has been nominated
for the most Grammys. Who jay Z, the man fucking
loves the Grammy. He really really care. You just know,
they get really excited. They get really excited. I reckon
(22:08):
they drink too much in the first time minutes because
they just they were looking forward to it. Hey, they do.
They really look forward to it. They do a lot
of strategy, a lot of planning, a lot of imagine
to be a fly on the wall. You are jay
Z and Beyonce, and Beyonce has lost album over the year.
Again you go home, bottle of red. What is said
over that table? I would that storning and invite Solange?
(22:33):
She had something, Yeah, that is these you want me
to hit Solange, not hitting. We're just bitching. We're just bitching.
Let's bitch about every artist in that because you know,
we're bitching about Taylor, We're bitching about Harry's house, We're
bitching about that Adele. Yeah, but most of all we're
bitching about Beck. Let me tell you about Beck. Okay.
(22:54):
In an interview in twenty twenty three, jay Z was like,
it wasn't just about her losing for the album Lemonade.
She lost to Adele, but he said, but also when
beck won over her, I was like, oh, you'll missed it.
I think it was also Kanye who got really pissed
off that Beck. That would have been a lot. I
think that was like twenty sixteen, yeah, something like that,
(23:15):
maybe twenty fourteen. Yeah, there's a bit I have to say,
what did becken for? I remember him having this song
that was good. Yeah, but is an album of the year. Yeah,
it's hard, it's not objective. Jay Z said to himself,
there's a bit of tension over Beyonce and Grammys because,
as you were saying, she's won more Grammys than anyone
else in history, So is she being snupped? But the
last time a black woman one Album of the Year
(23:37):
was twenty five years ago, so that plays into a
lot of this frustration. But it's unclear if this bothers
Beyonce as much as it bothers Jay z Or Is
Beyonce in his ear? Is she the squeaky will? Okay?
Is she that person who just looks very gracious and
came from has a great losing face. She's so humble,
(24:00):
she has it's incredible humility. When she's on stage winning something,
She's lovely, but then low key she's like, this is bullshit.
Because maybecause I'm this bullshit. Yeah, because she's bitching so much.
That's why Kanne got up. She's winding every well behind
the scenes, correct and she's going, it's a conspiracy. They're
not giving me another Grammy. The men around her are
(24:20):
getting wound as we saw. You'll remember in the two
thousand and nine VMAs when Taylor Swift won in the
Best Female Video category over Beyonce's single Ladies. I Love
How now history sees it as there were only two nominees, yeh,
Beyonce and Taylor. I looked up who else was in
the running, and I bet you that Kelly Clarkson was
(24:42):
sitting there being like, my life would suck without you.
Was also a great video, and perhaps the greatest of
all time. Would anyone like to defend anyone. When Kanye
went up, she was like, there he goes, there he
goes defending me again. My life would suck without you
made history. Can't remember that video for the life of me,
but great song. Pink was also there. I think Lady
(25:03):
Gaga was also there. Anyway, Taylor one, Kanye gets on
stage and says, Yo, Taylor, I'm really happy for you.
I'm let you finish one.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Of her best videos of all time.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
The Council one of the best podcasts of all time,
one of the best podcasts of all time, repeated Did
you know after that that Pink got in Kanye's face
and apparently they exchanged some heated words. Oh, the cameras
were turned on. Oh then I missed this. As if
I didn't already have enough respect for Beyonce, She called
Taylor back on stage after Beyonce won an award that night.
(25:35):
So what happened?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I did know this, I did this. Insider said that
he's backstage, Taylor is crying and her mother is crying
because they're so upset by what has happened, and Taylor
needs to go and perform. She still had her performance
ahead of her Beyonce was backstage with her dad and
Beyonce's in tears and he's like, what are we going
to do? And he's never done this before. This insider
loved Kanye. Kanye fucked it. Sorry, sorry, I do not
(26:01):
love Kanye, but Kanye in that moment is very a
six year old boy hitting everyone with six and then
disappearing and everybody's hurt. Yeah, and he doesn't know why
he has no friends, and it's like, you've upset everyone
because you keep hitting people. You've sown the seeds of chaos.
And now what they have to do is do something
totally unprecedented, which is at the insider said to Beyonce,
(26:23):
I'm gonna be real. You're gonna win an award tonight.
You're gonna be up on stage later. Yeah, you're gonna
be up on stage later. Here's my idea. You say
to Taylor, have your moment. So beyoncey came out and
she was like, I remember when I was seventeen, I
won my first Grammy. It was so special to me,
So I'd like for Taylor to come out and have
(26:43):
her moment. And Taylor came out and she accepted the
awarder I was beautiful, and I bet seing that Clay
you created. This is lovely. This is lovely, honey. This
only is happening because of you, and everyone's mad except
for Kelly because she also thinks that award was rigged.
(27:05):
This brings us to the world's most hectic conspiracy theory.
She knows, she knows, She knows. I'm gonna have that
stuck in my head? Are you listening? Can you hear
what I am saying? She knows, she knows. Just say
it again. She knows about It's more than that. It's
(27:28):
more than that. It's more than that. She no, Why okay?
I can't You're okay. So there's another theory as to
why Kanye interrupted Taylor at the VMA's and that said
he wanted to protect her, which, knowing Kanye, doubt it
checks out. Did you want to protect Kelly? No, I
(27:50):
shouldn't win because Taylor didn't know yet that you had
to thank Beyonce? Why do you have to thank Beyonce?
Allow me to explain. She knows, she knows. I'm just
gonna throw that in. Can you hear it? Not yet?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
P Diddy has been charged with sex trafficking racketeering and
transportation to engage in prostitution. You're following, so far, bad bad, bad,
bad bad man. You might have heard about his Freak
Cough parties, which appear to have involved minors and criminal activities.
At those parties, along with literally the rest of Hollywood,
was Beyonce and jay Z, And there are allegations I
(28:27):
don't know where they're from, that some of these parties
were sacrificial. I don't think the Internet knows what sacrificial means.
They just keep going their sacrificial Beyonce is sacrificial. Yeah,
that's lacking context in detail. We simply do not have
time for that. But just what we do on TikTok
is we grab onto words. Okay, so I hold them all.
She knows, we've got sacrificial. We've got she knows, and
(28:51):
we've got Kanye ally to protect Taylor from sacrificial Beyonce. Okay,
we're following. Yeah, you just wait because jay Z's birthday
is December four? Did his birthday is November four? And
Beyonce's birth day is September four? And jay Z has
(29:13):
an album called four four four? So what does that
tell you?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
No, I don't know. I don't know. Something I love
about Internet conspiracy theories is that it's just a bunch
of hand pick numbers. For example, the years that they
were born doesn't matter, no, just that it was all
four and that jay Z had the album for football,
And like you could create conspiracies out of anything, out
of like hand movements numbers. You've got to confidently list
(29:41):
things and then you have to yell yeah see and
circle things in pictures yep. And it's like bay see
what okay? Four? Four four could mean so many different things. Also,
it's like here's a thing, here's a thing. Maybe it's
like Beyonce jay z it. Maybe one of their children
are born on the fourth, you know what I mean?
And maybe that and then I'm seeing Beyonce slashing the
(30:01):
throat of a lamb, is what I'm saying. Okay, all right,
that's not all Because Claire, I present to you this
J Cole classic. Okay, I need I need to I
just this is where it's the payoff is going to
be really exciting for you. She knows, okay, she knows,
but I'm just playing like a little bit before she knows.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
She knows, she knows, and that.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
And that she knows, she knows.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Resahs left Michael jess Chess.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Did you hear rest in peace A leah? What? No?
I didn't rest in peace? Left eye? No? And then
something about Michael Jackson. No, I didn't hear that. Okay,
I heard some beats and I heard she knows. All right,
So it referred to those three deaths. Aliyah died on
the twenty fifth left eye. I don't know. I'm sure
(31:04):
why after only one of their eyes. It's really tragic
that they died. I just don't know who they are.
They also died on the twenty fifth. I haven't verified that.
I'm just going off TikTok and Michael Jackson. You guessed it.
You have to say that on TikTok. What date did
he die? Twenty fifth? Yeah, so I can't that. Here's
the thing, this is the phenomenon that people talk about,
(31:27):
which is the probability wise Okay, so it's like twenty fourth,
twenty first, twenty fourth, all that stuff. It's like, Okay,
there are only thirty to thirty one days, so there
is a one in thirty chance that if you died,
you're gonna die on that date, and it's like the
phenomenon everyone talks about where if you were in a
hall with a munch people and it's like find someone
(31:48):
who shares your birthday, there'd be quite a few people
like you would find someone consenses. Okay, you can try
and explain, they're just wait because you know how she
knows how you know she knows? Okay, she knows. She
sounds like Sean whish is the name of jay Z?
(32:10):
And did he jay Z? Is Sean? I have to
say I didn't know jay Z's first name was Sean
until you said it? Okay? And P Diddy is Sean?
Is Sean? Comes? Yes and like spelt different? But Sean?
And Beyonce's last name is Knowles mm hmmm, because no,
she is it? She knows? Or is it Sean? What
(32:37):
doesn't it make sense? Doesn't even.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Is it.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Sure? Even if it was, what would that mean? Okay,
it would mean both? Okay, both Sean are following you
plus Knolls, You're all four because jay Z had the
album full for four. Not only does she know but Sean.
(33:12):
It still doesn't make crying because I'm so moved by it.
It doesn't make it any Why did at Bece half
a Grammy? Then why did she give her half a Grammy?
You have to thank keeps running around Jesus because everybody's
(33:35):
bitching and then everyone's or you have to thank Beyonce
in your speeches because otherwise otherwise Okay, no, No, the
aforementioned sacrifice, they don't go it. They don't go into it. Recently,
some country artists thank Beyonce fair contribution, and they're all
(33:58):
doing it because they're scared because you know who didn't
thank Beyonce. Amy, Why I've got this from TikTok. I'm
not I'm not bringing this up. I just spent five
minutes in a tik tok and I think Beyonce killed
baby one else. Okay, okay, I need real, I need
(34:21):
to be real. Do you actually no, But for the
purposes of this, I'm honestly only just getting started. You see,
every time Beyonce starts one of her world tours, a
massive music icon dies. So she starts one world tour boom.
Michael Jackson dead. Is that because isn't that just because
every year someone dies? No, it's because Beyonce starts her tours.
(34:43):
Whitney Houston, some guy named Bobby died, hold On Prince died.
What about people who died of natural cause they were
all sacrificed. That's who she's sacrificing. Aretha Franklin, Tina Turner died.
And now, according to TikTok, people are begging Beyonce to
stop touring because he was killing people. She keeps killing
(35:04):
people every time she announces it tour, someone died. Okay,
nobody wants to sit down and just be like, but
why why would she? What is so? The reason why
is because she's actually killing them all before her tour start,
so that she can do a tribute. What Yeah? And apparently,
oh my god, because she was competitive before a flight.
(35:25):
There are more questions and answered, wait didn't she die
in a yeah? Yeah, but she was drugged before the
plane crash. Why would you need to drug her if
she was if the plane was going to crash? Well,
what Beyonce did. It's like being like someone died in
a car accident, but I drugged them before, and it's like,
well the drugging was kind of No, Beyonce drug people. Clear,
(35:48):
she kills people twice. You should have drunk the pilot.
What Beyonce did is she overloaded the plane. Aaliyah saw
that it was overloaded, and she was like, I'm not
going on that plane. It's dangerous. So she went back
to her car, at which stage someone gave her a
sedative and then put it back on the plane. So
she was murdered by Beyonce speaking of everyone on TikTok,
is like, now j colesong had mysteriously disappeared, and I
(36:12):
was like, that's dodgy, And then I went on Spotify
and it's there is the most TikTok thing when people
like have you noticed blah, and then you're like, that's
not true. That's not a true thing. I would another clue.
You know the song she Knows, Yeah, No, there's a
reference to apple Pie, which is a Destiny's Child song.
(36:34):
It's also a dessert, also a dessert. It's also reference
to the American pie. Yeah. Then there's the Sea a tweet.
Have you heard about the Sea? A tweet? No, God, Claire,
please read this tweet by Sea. Okay, baby, everything you own?
Nice cat eats, yeah, kangaroo is dead nowhere and purple
(36:57):
penguins every day my egg, Greg Sea. It just looks
like another innocuous sea A tweet. No, it looks like
a sea a tweet where somebody might actually be like, hey, sweet,
how you going making much sense on your Twitter? You
think that, but luckily TikTok is here to decode it
for you. Turn it over and read what it says
when it's deck coded? Ah my? Or does it say Claire?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Okay, so the first letter of every word spells out
Beyonce kidnapped me? God? Do you need any more evidence?
Absolutely not. I didn't think so you won't believe it.
But allegedly this tweet is not real. Okay, I was
gonna say. She is not known for like unhinged tweets
(37:45):
her Twitter presence necessarily, and I don't know. I had
never heard that, just when you think things can't get
any worse. But I like that they put kangaroo in
there to make it seem like it was her because
she's Australian. Yeah yeah, and the reference to penguins. Have
you seen the Jojo Siwa thing? Mm hmmmm hmm. Okay,
because she'd like to be a part of this. No, okay,
(38:07):
I am not on Beyonce, she talk, I'm not on spiracy.
Tip you on Jojo? Yeah, and what Jojo did was
that Jojo made a funny joke referencing like, oh I
gotta thank Beyonce blah blah blah, and then she hasn't
been seen. I'm pretty sure that TikTok would have made
(38:27):
like two hours after I'll play you. What she said,
I have to say.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Thank you would give the gest community scene.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Play music. We all love to it.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
We all love you anyways so much. I've said it once,
not say it again, Jojo, you need to get off TikTok.
But I love that she was on TikTok so much
that she made like a meta TikTok joke at the awards.
But I don't think she was joking. I think Jojo
is totally invested in the Beyonce conspiracy theory. Really, I
(39:01):
thought she did it as a funny, genuinely quite annoying.
It's genuinely quite funny. That was a funny Jojo. No
when goodwie Jojo, because I'm on TikTok too. What she's
done is she has thrust this Beyonce conspiracy theory into
the mainstream and being like, oh, it's this underground TikTok thing. Yeah,
and now I'm just going to go. No, guys, you
(39:22):
have to thank Beyonce. She's going to kill you. Jojo.
Not helpful. Okay, Well, question has she been seen since?
I haven't seen her since because I'm not on Jojo TikTok.
I think she's fine. I think she's fine too. People
are literally accusing Beyonce being a serial killer, a mass
serial killer, Sean Knowles, Sean Noles, and JoJo's over here
(39:46):
making light of it. Jojo, this is no laughing matter either.
The woman goes to court, we let her be Okay, Yeah,
it is time for charges and sentences. My charge, she's
(40:10):
had a relatively controversy free run. I will say that's
why this episode taking us a long long time to do.
How to wait until there was a conspiracy about her
being sacrificial exactly, sacrificed in order to have enough content exactly.
My charge though, are the brain cells it took me
to get across that conspiracy theory because you know, when
(40:32):
you're learning something like in history, yeah, and you're trying
to get across something complicated, but you're like, essentially this
makes sense because it's a thing that happened. Yes, so
just you get in the helicopter and you go, so
A happened, B happens, C happened, and a cause B COSC.
But the other thing about acquiring knowledge in that way,
and this is something I find often when I'm doing
canceled research, is you need a framework in which to
(40:54):
hang bits of notices. Yeah, okay, So say I'm doing
some research on Chloe Kardashian. I'm like, easy, I could
draw a Kardashian family tree. We got Caitlyn Jenner, We've
got so much right. The hard thing is when you
are trying to hang bits of information on a frame
that doesn't exist, that doesn't exist, and you've got questions,
you don't know who to ask them to know, because
(41:16):
you can very unserious because the conspiracy theorist, what's Ja
Cole got to stup with anything? That's what I was
gonna ask. Why does Ja Cole know that Sean Knowles M? Yeah, yeah,
I have another question. How's Beyonce killing them? Who she killed?
Where does it say that she has to thank them?
(41:36):
What's that got to do with? This? Feels like a
save britished you. A couple of things popped up that
it just clearly photoshopped images of like Beyonce just at
a party. Yeah, I saw a photoshopped one that was
her getting up to accept a Grammy shouldn't win. And
I was like, oh, that's incredibly embarrassing. Yeah, like I
need to find it just wasn't real. No, that's true.
(41:58):
It's really hard to actually research on half of the
dc aren't real, and when there's a lot of context
that doesn't exist because it's all made in a mess
of mud. That yes, But what I've got is a
sense that Beyonce sacrificial my sentences. It's a common one
(42:19):
in the council courtroom. Double jeopardy okay, okay, the internet
Jojo thinks he did it? Did what uncle? Yeah killed
any one? House killed a late a liar? Were you
the pilot? A Liah goes to the car being like,
I don't want to get on the plane. It's just
so many, so many things would have had to do. Yeah,
it's like she's overloaded the plane, she's manipulated the pilot.
(42:42):
She actually knows aeronautical and a plane crash. And then
Alia is like, I don't want to get on the plane,
and Beyonce is sitting in the car. Yes, luckily, Yeah,
thank god, I've got a sedative. Yeah. And the question
is why, why to listen to me? And why? Well,
(43:06):
if you're already sacrificial and you you are already you're
a serial killer in Hollywood, I just do it. What
do you mean everyone believes it? That's my sentence. Oh
my god, you think she's I'm talking. I'm talking double jeopardy, Claire.
I'm talking double jeopardy. You cannot be tried for the
same crime twice. You can't can't be done. I've looked
it up. Oh wow, So she's already been. In the
(43:28):
eyes of Claire. These have been viewed by tens of
millions of people, and I can't tell you how much
they believe their own shit. Okay, yeah, they believe it. Okay,
So I reckon go around in the court of public opinion.
She's already been, she's already done it. Mm hm, next minute. Oh,
where Taylor Swift go? Where did Adele go? Wow? Beyonce
is just full leaning into the conspiracy theory. Yeah, and
(43:49):
run's in a prison in a basement. So bizire. I
think like Taylor Swift didn't thank her, she was going
to kill it. Yeah. Yeah, and that was the thing
is that Kanye got up and was like, I'll just
thank Beyonce, and it's like, yeah, because Kanye has got
a great reputation for making good decisions and defending women,
that's a joke. He doesn't have a reputation for of
(44:10):
those things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Claire, what is your charge?
My charge is simple? Sean knowles Sean what Sean? Okay?
What does that mean? Exactly? What's the sentence? Then? Sure?
I think if we say it enough, that's the thing.
(44:32):
If you say anything enough, it makes sense. Imbune meaning yeah,
if you look at somebody and kind of raise your eyebrows,
then see, she knows is a thing that makes sense.
There are two words in the English language. Actually, sure,
Noles isn't a person.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
I think.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Actually, if you were listening to that song I'm trying
to build a case stick to she Knows, you don't
have to go down. There are all these things on
TikTok that are like, it's like the Aliah there, Michael
Jackson bitt that's like she knows and it's just Beyonce,
Like imagine Beyonce like her renaissance thing, just like a
silhouette of Beyonce being like she knows, and she does
look us because she's mid concert. Yeah, hasn't somebody been
(45:11):
charged Michael Jackson's death? Yeah, six degrees of separation always
leads right back to Beyonce her yeah, because she knows.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
No.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Okay, So seriously, my sentency is not absolutely nothing is
poor man? Poor woman. She's walking around Hollywood and all
these young little TikTokers are looking at her, being like,
stop sacrificing people. Oh I wonder if the live he
is on TikTok. That must be sad to learn that
your mum is sacrificing people by the internet. Yeah, it
(45:39):
would be. And then you know, when you're scared to
ask your mom a question? Yeah, mom, do you sacrifice
people with her? And thank you to Ward if you've
been on TikTok again. Yes, Claire, I have a laser
girl story. Oh yeah, we now soap send us a
voice message to our Instagram, right, yeah, like a voice note, yep,
(45:59):
and laser girls take a minute. Yeah, I think this
could have been months ago. But to listen to a
voice note, Yeah, I got a breastplay. Yeah right, but
I gotta be some we can listen and yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway,
a press the play. I mean tell you what she
told me. Okay, good, she said with her friend. Her
and her friend went to our canceled last year at
the Powerhouse Museum. They're really enjoyed. Yeah, they're laser girls.
(46:20):
They're like sooth has a sprain ankle. Oh no, she
showed herself because lady girls are constantly injured. And her friend,
who was sitting on the couch giggling as she was
sending this voice note, she has a sore hip okay,
and wrist. I'm god, I've got a saw risk. I
think I have a ganglion. Okay. I think her friend
does too, because she's gone to the chemist to buy
(46:41):
like a strap for her wrist, which I reckon is
actually a whole lazy girl story in it. Yeah self, yeah,
because nothing gets you out of something like a strap
yep on your wrist. And she's not being to the
doctor anything. She doesn't plan to. She doesn't think it's
actually sprain or anything.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
It's just saw.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
We just need medical accessors. Yeah, yeah, and her hip's
not great anyway. They're sending this voice message and they're
about like thirty centimeters away from each other, and they
were both in paint because the wrist and the hip
and the ankle, and and they were looking at one
of their phones, but so kept looking at her friend's phone,
and she didn't have the energy to go and scroll
(47:18):
on her phone, so she kept just gesturing, ah, yes,
to be like scroll, keep scrolling, keep scroll, keep scroll,
keep scroll. And they were sitting there giggling at themselves
and how lazy they were. And the third voice note
that they sent was just them laughing, going no, no, no,
they'll find it funny. They'll find it funny. They're lady girls.
And then they just did the impression of lazy girls
over and over again. Yeah. I really enjoyed it. Guys,
(47:40):
that's really fun because lazy girls always injured because they're
not doing things correctly, like lifting. We have weak joints.
We have weak joints. Honestly, the risk thing is from scrolling.
I'm not kidding. Look that's a bloody ganglion. Yeah, I've
got a ganglion. Two h Thank you so much for
joining us on this episode of Canceled. Canceled is produced
by Kimberly Bradish with audio production by Leah Porges. For
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Before we begin, I'm just gonna start with she.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Knows, she knows, she knows.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
She knows, like I know she knows. Do you know?
I know the sound? But I don't know what she knows.
You don't. I don't know what she knows. She knows
something and it will make sense in time. But I
need you to have that suck in your head, okay,
because I've had that song suck in my head for
a week. It's why you've been gonna weird later. And
it's tangentially related to Beyonce. Okay, cool cool? Who's that song?
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By jackol Okay? Okay cool cool? Hello, and welcome to Canceled.
It is a lazy girl's guide to bizarre so pretty cancelations.
I am Jesse Stevens. I'm joined by Claire Stephens. Claire,
I asked you for this episode to not watch any
Beyonce tiktoks and that wasn't so hard because for context,
I am on a book deadline, so I have been
(02:25):
I've done that thing where I've deleted TikTok from my
like home screen, but it's still there. If I just
swipe an extra screen so you try not to go
on TikTok. So I'm like, oh my god, no social media,
no social media. And then next minute I'm in the
shower watching tiktoks. Yeah. Shit, that's when you know things
have gotten dire. But I'm not on Beyonce. Ta okay,
good good. Today's episode is all about Beyonce, Giselle Noles Carter.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Crazy holds are cut down, down, down now.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
So I don't really get to gangster.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
But I am a businesswoman and I quiet gangster.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
I should say, I'm so glad we haven't done her before,
just because we can now do her with a conspiracy theory.
And that's fine. Exactly our previous canceled producer, Telissa. She's
gone off to have a baby. Yeah, while she's in
the Bee Hive, she would never have led us do
(03:33):
such a thing. She can't stop it. As a push present,
we're doing Beyonce to upset her, to cause her distress
at one of her more vulnerable time Dedicated to Telissa.
Beyonce is an American singer, songwriter, and businesswoman. She rose
to fame in the late nineteen nineties as part of
Destiny's Child, and yeah, we know we were there. We
(03:54):
were I remember the film clip the Nun Survivor. I'm
not going yeah anyway, they're wearing army gear. You're very Michelle, very,
You're very Michelle. No, I'm not. Who's the other one? Oh? Note,
that's Michelle. Who's the other Kelly Kelly? Okay, you're not
Kelly Michelle in order of importance that goes beyond like
(04:15):
Kelly Kelly. Everyone knows that. Claire. Would you like to
hear about when her singing voice was discovered? Hmmm? Was
she like too? She was in a dance class as
a young girl when a dance instructor was just humming
a song and Beyonce finished it off and she hit
the high note effortlessly. She won a school talent show
at seven where she sung Imagine by John Lennon. I
(04:37):
would have brought everyone to tears, which I too have
performed to try out for a choir when just at Skull,
not recently, not adult years, but at school, I sung
if you can't sing, don't sing that. It's not it's
not it's not good because imagine, there's no it's a
(04:59):
very one note. Didn't get in with that one, but
she did. Rolling Stone has named her the world's greatest
living entertainer and one of the greatest vocalists of all time.
And she's simultaneously considered wildly overrated and wildly underrated, which
is what happens when you are a woman doing your job. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
She's married to jay Z and has Blue Ivy, who
is twelve, and twins Roomy and Sir, who are seven.
It makes me sad that I remember pregnant and I
remember her being pregnant with Blue Ivy. Oh my goodness. Yeah,
because you know how pregnancy post with Rumy and so
was the most liked image ever on Instagram up until
that moment. And that was the one where she was
sitting there and it was like the whole thing. But
(05:40):
the Blue Ivy one, she was on stage, she was
performing and then she just got out of bump. It
was so classy. My favorite Beyonce songs personally, ah if
I were a boy, oh stn in Halo yep, irreplaceable,
in box the Left. I've been known to sing a
halo on carry karaoke. And of course I'm a big
(06:00):
fan of Texas Hold him Baal like the country album.
I thought it was a bit of fun. I think
that was a misstep. Okay, I don't like I've said everyone, No,
I don't like Joline. Well, Joline comes up. My structure
for today is as follows. Questionable lyrics, Becky with the
good hair and Solange in a lift that's actually one subheading,
(06:23):
jay Z being an Awards guy, huh, and the Beyonce conspiracy.
I just think that the Beyonce conspiracy is so fun. Alright,
I'm really looking forward. Okay, that questionable lyrics. In twenty thirteen,
Beyonce was canceled by astronauts. Did you know this? No,
I hate when you get canceled by astronauts. I didn't
(06:43):
think they had Wi FI a lot of the time. Oh,
like literal astronauts who were currently in space. I don't
know if they are currently in space, but they're very important.
Like for them to take issue with Beyonce would hurt.
She released this song It's called XO and I'm going
to play you the beginning my controllers. You're looking very
carefully at the situation.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Obviously a major malfunction.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Did you hear those words at the beginning? A malfunction?
There's been a malfunction, Claire. That is a sample from
the nineteen eighty six Space Shuttle Challenger explosion, which killed
all seven crew members on board. Some media didn't understand
its relevance because XO is a love song, and astronauts
as well as the loved ones of some crew members,
(07:26):
voiced their discomfort with the sampling. So what that beginning
says is basically what the voiceover was saying when they
realized that the Challenger was going to explode. Yeah. Wow,
it's almost like it's not like this, but you know
when you go to the nine to eleven Museum in
New York and you hear the phone calls, Yeah, the
people may Yeah, it's a little bit that. It's a
(07:46):
little I wouldn't sample them in pop music. No, And
one astronaut said to me it seemed to be totally
irrelevant and the use of it insensitive. I have to
agree with the irrelevance point. I don't see how it's
relevant to a love song beyond them exactly to XO.
And Look, I've actually interviewed a few astronauts whenever I'm
doing a project and they say we've got an astronaut
on oh hi, I stopped my feet. I get so excited,
(08:10):
I go. I have so many questions about stuff and
the universe. Imagine being like astronaut. We're looking for an
astronaut for your opinion on Beyonce. What a surprise, Like, Oh,
I've literally seen the world from above. Yeah, I know
more about space than you can possibly imagine. Yeah, yeah,
but what do you think of this sampling in this song?
(08:30):
The widow of Dick Scobie, who died in the disaster, said,
the moment included in this song is an emotionally difficult one, right,
So pretty universally people were like, this is jarring. Do
you think Beyonce knew what it was? What it was? Yes?
So Beyonce then comes out and she's like, hang on,
there's a reason I use this audio. She said. The
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song XO was recorded with the sincerest intention to help
heal those who have lost loved ones and to remind
us that unexpected things happen. So love and appreciate every
minute that you have with those who mean the most
to you. And a bunch of critics in like really
well respected magazines and papers were then like, hang on,
this song is actually about mortality and how things can
suddenly go horribly wrong, and by then I think the
(09:13):
astronauts were in space or something like. This story is done.
We do have other removed priorities. But there was friction
between Beyonce and NASA. Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean when
you're Beyonce, you get a little bit put down by
people thinking that your art is lowbrow. And perhaps what
she was trying to do there with some highbrow art. Yes,
(09:36):
exactly right. She was trying to make a point, she
was trying to double in history. I understand her defense.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Another lyric controversy Monica Lewinsky. In the same year, Beyonce
releases the song Partition, and this is one of the lyrics.
He popped all my buttons and he ripped my blouse.
He Monica lewinskied all on my gown, Claire, Can you
see anything wrong with this? A lyric in terms of
the choice of verb, Monica Lewinsky isn't a verb, but
(10:05):
it is being used as a verb. Yeah, to think
about it. Think about it? No, I know, grammatically, do
you think it works? No, because Monica Lewinsky didn't Monica Lewinsky, Yeah, exactly.
Bill Clinton, Bill Clinton on Monica Lewins. Lewinsky took grammatical
issue with the lyrics because technically he clinton all over
(10:26):
my gown. Yeah. In twenty twenty two, Beyonce released her
album Renaissance, and on the song Heated, she included a
word that is considered by some to be an able slur.
I say considered by some because in other certain contexts
it actually refers to partying a bit hard right. Nevertheless,
(10:47):
when the backlash emerged, Beyonce was like, look, I'm actually
I'm Beyonce. I might just change it. It's not what
I intended. I'm just going to change the lyric. And
I was like, go you, Beyonce. And then Lewinsky tweeted
and was like, while you're there, yeah, while you're making edits.
Why are you making edits because there's just a piece
of paper just here. I'd like you to make a
quick edit on. And Beyonce said, not you, not you, Monica.
(11:10):
I actually really like my line about Monica. Lewinsky doesn't
have the same thing, and it's a bit clunky. It's clunky.
We all knew what she meant. It doesn't have to
make sense. It's like everyone says about the song Ironic
by Alarnast Morrison. Oh none of irony. Well, it doesn't matter.
It just's vibe and it's like, well, that is what
irony is now, Yeah, you know it doesn't make sense,
(11:30):
like I can't define irony, but I know the lyrics
to that song. So Becky with the good hair and
Solange in a lift? Who is Becky and why it's
her hair? So I love me. I've thought a lot
about Becky with the good hair, right, and it's like,
I can picture the hair. What do you see? It's
sorry to the blondes out there, it's brown yep, could
(11:53):
be auburn, okay, but I see it as brown. I
see it as shiny and thick. What would you say
if I said in my notes right now, I do
possess an image of who I believe to be Becky
with the good hair, as in celebrity wise, the real
Becky with the good hair. Who is it? Well, I'm
going to show you if you do, but it features
the hair, So I'm just interested in what you're saying. Okay, well,
(12:15):
I've got a very clear image of the hairk Okay.
It all begins in twenty fourteen at a met Gala
after party, when CCTV footage is published from inside the
elevator at a fancy hotel in New York. In it,
we see Solange Knowles, Beyonce's younger sister, attacking a jay
Z in an elevator. Do you remember not attacking a
jay Z? Yes? Yes, no, I do. Yes. It was
(12:37):
described as clawing and kicking. Okay, it's weird that we've
kind of forgotten this culturally, have we though?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Well?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Did you recall that Beyonce was also in the lift
and Beyonce didn't do a single thing. Mm, she just watched.
I feel like he was almost so chaotic that we're like,
do not process, move on. Yeah. I didn't really lean
into this story that much. I was kind of like,
let them have their issues, Let them have their issues,
and we all know what it's about. So they ended
(13:05):
up releasing a statement being like Lolsorroy worked it out.
Nothing to see here, and the internet was like na
na na na na. Jay Z cheated on Beyonce, yes,
and I was we simply must know more details because
we are invested now. Ever since we saw them fighting
inside the elevator that we caught together, we're all in
(13:26):
elevated together. Were you caused a ruckus. We're gonna need
to know underlying cause of the ruckus. It's also, in hindsight,
quite relatable in that if your husband cheated on you,
you might be broken. I'm ready to hit you, are ready,
I'm ready to attack and or claw. I can do
(13:47):
that for you situations. I've thought about cloring your husband.
He hasn't even cheated, He's just annoyed me. And elevators
are You're trapped? You trapped? A security guard pulled her off.
There were lots of divorce rumors, but nothing was confirmed.
Then in twenty sixteen, Beyonce releases the album Laminade. It
tells the emotional journey that she experienced after the infidelity
(14:09):
of her husband with Becky with the Good Jay z
aka Sean Cory Carter. On the track Sorry, she says
death to side chicks, and she sings, he only want.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Me when I'm not.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
You better call beg you with the cool hair. You
better call beck you with the good hair.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
As a result of my thorough investigating, I have deduced
that Becky with the Good Hair was a side chick
and Beyonce, they did not like it. Okay, people think
Becky in this context is a white woman, and good
hair can refer to long, straight hair and black communities.
There were rumors that Becky was reader Aura, but she
promptly shut those rumors down. But then fans stumbled upon
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designer Rachel Roy, who has had a lot of business
dealings with jay Z. The name Rachel is giving Becky.
Do you know what I mean? Rachel and Becky name
which exist in the same universe, to me, absolutely have
exactly the same energy. Yep yep. Around the time of
the Lemonade release date, this, Rachel Roy posted something on Instagram.
(15:20):
She posted good hair, don't care, but we will take
good lighting for selfies or self truths. Always live in
the light hashtag no drama queens. So like, did you
have sex with jay Z once? Or like three times? Yeah?
The post has since been deleted because the Beehive aka
our former producer Toelyssa swarmed and predictably got a little intense. Also,
(15:45):
right before the lift incident, apparently at the met gala,
Solange yelled at Rachel Oh was Rachel there? She was
there because she's a designer. Okay, Claire, I present to you,
Rachel Roy. Tell me what you notice about her. She
has good hair. Okay, so what I noticed? Yeah, that's
the hair I pictured. It is thick, yeah, shine, beautiful color,
(16:08):
a dark hair, beautifully. Yeah. You look at her and
say she has great hair, you would, you would. She's gorgeous.
She has lovely hair. Beyonce also has lovely hair while
we're here, it's lunge lovely hair. But I think this
is Becky with the good hair. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
In the years since, jay Z has admitted to cheating
on Beyonce in his music but also in interviews. Then
this year, Beyonce releases Cowboy Carter and she's like, you
know what, I still fucking hate Becky. Yeah. I like
that They've created so much content out of an affair. Yeah,
that's what people need to do. If if you get
cheated on, you cry, your sister does an attack, and
(16:45):
then you create content that you can monetize. So she
does a remake of Joline where Dolly Puton opens the
song with hey.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Miss Honeybee, it's darly.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
B you know about Horsey with the good hair you
sing about reminded me of someone on you back Win,
except she has flame and LOKs of auburn hair.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Bless your heart, just a hair of a different colors,
just the scene.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Beyonce tweeked the lyrics to basically be like, bitch, stand back,
leave jay Z alone, or I will talk about your
hair again. Firstly, imagine being this widely known for having
great hair. If I were her, I would identify myself.
I would make a hair CareLine. It's actually called with
good hair. It's quite passive aggressive, or it's like quite
(17:34):
like a compliment in disguise. The Beyonce's like, I hate
you beyond hair, but I'm not gonna say you don't
have good hair because you do. It would sound mean
if she called o Becky with the bad hair, yeah, yeah, heady,
it wouldn't be queen behavior. But to call o'becky with
the good hair, it's like, you have good hair, You're
still ah that. Secondly, the reason Beyonce has copped it
(17:59):
is because meanwhile her and jay Z are making albums together,
they're raising their kids, They've repaired their relationship. But when
she brought it back for Joline and was still like
fuck Becky, the criticism was like, Becky, isn't your husband?
Why we're still talking about Becky? Why are we still
dragging her. Why are we fighting over a man? Do
you have any comments about jay Z's hair? Because I
(18:20):
cannot picture j Z's hair. I don't know if he
has hair. Yeah, yeah, with not as a culture dissected
his hair enough. No, I mean the man's profited off
his own affair. I read that he'd written all these
songs about it. I was like, I don't want to
know what jay Z has to say about Becky as
a family, they've done well off of this affair. I
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Speaker 3 (19:48):
Enjoy.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Jay Z is an awards guy and I get it
because I'm also an awards guy. You're an awards guy.
Sometimes we need external validation. Arrest us. We're nominated in
the Australian Podcast Awards. We are We're not going to
win in the comedy category. We will not win. But
if we win, where awards going? And if we don't
we storm? Yeah? No, we should storm, Yeah, we should storm.
(20:26):
I'm going to say, I'm gonna let you finish. But
Canceled was the best podcast of all time? Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yes, yes yes.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
In being an awards guy, though he has really dragged
Beyonce into it. At the twenty twenty four Grammys in February,
Beyonce was nominated for Album of the Year and she
lost to Taylor Swift for Midnights. While jay Z was
accepting the Doctor Dre Global Impact Award, he called out
the ceremony. He started by talking about the history of
black artists at the Grammys, and then he said.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
We want you to get it right, at least get
it close to right. And obviously it's subjective. You don't
got to clap at everything. Obviously obviously is subjective because
you know, as music and his opinion bass.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
He looks at Beyonce, Oh no, and he says.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
I don't want to embarrass this young lady, but she
has more Grammys than everyone and never one album of
a year. So even by your own metrics, that doesn't work.
Think about that, the most Grammys, never one album of
the year. That doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I can't overstate how pissed off jay Z is that
Beyonce has never one album and it keeps them out
up at night. Okay, so this is the thing, this
is the hole in the argument. You've won more Grammys
than anybody else, and yet you haven't won enough, so
you go more Grammy, Grammy, and it's not fair. But
(21:46):
it's not fair that you haven't won more. Yeah, you've
won more Grammys than anyone else. We haven't won that Grammy. Therefore,
the Grammy discriminates against Beyonce, who's one of the most
Grammys out of everyone you know, who has been nominated
for the most Grammys. Who jay Z, the man fucking
loves the Grammy. He really really care. You just know,
they get really excited. They get really excited. I reckon
(22:08):
they drink too much in the first time minutes because
they just they were looking forward to it. Hey, they do.
They really look forward to it. They do a lot
of strategy, a lot of planning, a lot of imagine
to be a fly on the wall. You are jay
Z and Beyonce, and Beyonce has lost album over the year.
Again you go home, bottle of red. What is said
over that table? I would that storning and invite Solange?
(22:33):
She had something, Yeah, that is these you want me
to hit Solange, not hitting. We're just bitching. We're just bitching.
Let's bitch about every artist in that because you know,
we're bitching about Taylor, We're bitching about Harry's house, We're
bitching about that Adele. Yeah, but most of all we're
bitching about Beck. Let me tell you about Beck. Okay.
(22:54):
In an interview in twenty twenty three, jay Z was like,
it wasn't just about her losing for the album Lemonade.
She lost to Adele, but he said, but also when
beck won over her, I was like, oh, you'll missed it.
I think it was also Kanye who got really pissed
off that Beck. That would have been a lot. I
think that was like twenty sixteen, yeah, something like that,
(23:15):
maybe twenty fourteen. Yeah, there's a bit I have to say,
what did becken for? I remember him having this song
that was good. Yeah, but is an album of the year. Yeah,
it's hard, it's not objective. Jay Z said to himself,
there's a bit of tension over Beyonce and Grammys because,
as you were saying, she's won more Grammys than anyone
else in history, So is she being snupped? But the
last time a black woman one Album of the Year
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was twenty five years ago, so that plays into a
lot of this frustration. But it's unclear if this bothers
Beyonce as much as it bothers Jay z Or Is
Beyonce in his ear? Is she the squeaky will? Okay?
Is she that person who just looks very gracious and
came from has a great losing face. She's so humble,
(24:00):
she has it's incredible humility. When she's on stage winning something,
She's lovely, but then low key she's like, this is bullshit.
Because maybecause I'm this bullshit. Yeah, because she's bitching so much.
That's why Kanne got up. She's winding every well behind
the scenes, correct and she's going, it's a conspiracy. They're
not giving me another Grammy. The men around her are
(24:20):
getting wound as we saw. You'll remember in the two
thousand and nine VMAs when Taylor Swift won in the
Best Female Video category over Beyonce's single Ladies. I Love
How now history sees it as there were only two nominees, yeh,
Beyonce and Taylor. I looked up who else was in
the running, and I bet you that Kelly Clarkson was
(24:42):
sitting there being like, my life would suck without you.
Was also a great video, and perhaps the greatest of
all time. Would anyone like to defend anyone. When Kanye
went up, she was like, there he goes, there he
goes defending me again. My life would suck without you
made history. Can't remember that video for the life of me,
but great song. Pink was also there. I think Lady
(25:03):
Gaga was also there. Anyway, Taylor one, Kanye gets on
stage and says, Yo, Taylor, I'm really happy for you.
I'm let you finish one.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Of her best videos of all time.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
The Council one of the best podcasts of all time,
one of the best podcasts of all time, repeated Did
you know after that that Pink got in Kanye's face
and apparently they exchanged some heated words. Oh, the cameras
were turned on. Oh then I missed this. As if
I didn't already have enough respect for Beyonce, She called
Taylor back on stage after Beyonce won an award that night.
(25:35):
So what happened?
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
I did know this, I did this. Insider said that
he's backstage, Taylor is crying and her mother is crying
because they're so upset by what has happened, and Taylor
needs to go and perform. She still had her performance
ahead of her Beyonce was backstage with her dad and
Beyonce's in tears and he's like, what are we going
to do? And he's never done this before. This insider
loved Kanye. Kanye fucked it. Sorry, sorry, I do not
(26:01):
love Kanye, but Kanye in that moment is very a
six year old boy hitting everyone with six and then
disappearing and everybody's hurt. Yeah, and he doesn't know why
he has no friends, and it's like, you've upset everyone
because you keep hitting people. You've sown the seeds of chaos.
And now what they have to do is do something
totally unprecedented, which is at the insider said to Beyonce,
(26:23):
I'm gonna be real. You're gonna win an award tonight.
You're gonna be up on stage later. Yeah, you're gonna
be up on stage later. Here's my idea. You say
to Taylor, have your moment. So beyoncey came out and
she was like, I remember when I was seventeen, I
won my first Grammy. It was so special to me,
So I'd like for Taylor to come out and have
(26:43):
her moment. And Taylor came out and she accepted the
awarder I was beautiful, and I bet seing that Clay
you created. This is lovely. This is lovely, honey. This
only is happening because of you, and everyone's mad except
for Kelly because she also thinks that award was rigged.
(27:05):
This brings us to the world's most hectic conspiracy theory.
She knows, she knows, She knows. I'm gonna have that
stuck in my head? Are you listening? Can you hear
what I am saying? She knows, she knows. Just say
it again. She knows about It's more than that. It's
(27:28):
more than that. It's more than that. She no, Why okay?
I can't You're okay. So there's another theory as to
why Kanye interrupted Taylor at the VMA's and that said
he wanted to protect her, which, knowing Kanye, doubt it
checks out. Did you want to protect Kelly? No, I
(27:50):
shouldn't win because Taylor didn't know yet that you had
to thank Beyonce? Why do you have to thank Beyonce?
Allow me to explain. She knows, she knows. I'm just
gonna throw that in. Can you hear it? Not yet?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
P Diddy has been charged with sex trafficking racketeering and
transportation to engage in prostitution. You're following, so far, bad bad, bad,
bad bad man. You might have heard about his Freak
Cough parties, which appear to have involved minors and criminal activities.
At those parties, along with literally the rest of Hollywood,
was Beyonce and jay Z, And there are allegations I
(28:27):
don't know where they're from, that some of these parties
were sacrificial. I don't think the Internet knows what sacrificial means.
They just keep going their sacrificial Beyonce is sacrificial. Yeah,
that's lacking context in detail. We simply do not have
time for that. But just what we do on TikTok
is we grab onto words. Okay, so I hold them all.
She knows, we've got sacrificial. We've got she knows, and
(28:51):
we've got Kanye ally to protect Taylor from sacrificial Beyonce. Okay,
we're following. Yeah, you just wait because jay Z's birthday
is December four? Did his birthday is November four? And
Beyonce's birth day is September four? And jay Z has
(29:13):
an album called four four four? So what does that
tell you?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
No, I don't know. I don't know. Something I love
about Internet conspiracy theories is that it's just a bunch
of hand pick numbers. For example, the years that they
were born doesn't matter, no, just that it was all
four and that jay Z had the album for football,
And like you could create conspiracies out of anything, out
of like hand movements numbers. You've got to confidently list
(29:41):
things and then you have to yell yeah see and
circle things in pictures yep. And it's like bay see
what okay? Four? Four four could mean so many different things. Also,
it's like here's a thing, here's a thing. Maybe it's
like Beyonce jay z it. Maybe one of their children
are born on the fourth, you know what I mean?
And maybe that and then I'm seeing Beyonce slashing the
(30:01):
throat of a lamb, is what I'm saying. Okay, all right,
that's not all Because Claire, I present to you this
J Cole classic. Okay, I need I need to I
just this is where it's the payoff is going to
be really exciting for you. She knows, okay, she knows,
but I'm just playing like a little bit before she knows.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
She knows, she knows, and that.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
And that she knows, she knows.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Resahs left Michael jess Chess.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Did you hear rest in peace A leah? What? No?
I didn't rest in peace? Left eye? No? And then
something about Michael Jackson. No, I didn't hear that. Okay,
I heard some beats and I heard she knows. All right,
So it referred to those three deaths. Aliyah died on
the twenty fifth left eye. I don't know. I'm sure
(31:04):
why after only one of their eyes. It's really tragic
that they died. I just don't know who they are.
They also died on the twenty fifth. I haven't verified that.
I'm just going off TikTok and Michael Jackson. You guessed it.
You have to say that on TikTok. What date did
he die? Twenty fifth? Yeah, so I can't that. Here's
the thing, this is the phenomenon that people talk about,
(31:27):
which is the probability wise Okay, so it's like twenty fourth,
twenty first, twenty fourth, all that stuff. It's like, Okay,
there are only thirty to thirty one days, so there
is a one in thirty chance that if you died,
you're gonna die on that date, and it's like the
phenomenon everyone talks about where if you were in a
hall with a munch people and it's like find someone
(31:48):
who shares your birthday, there'd be quite a few people
like you would find someone consenses. Okay, you can try
and explain, they're just wait because you know how she
knows how you know she knows? Okay, she knows. She
sounds like Sean whish is the name of jay Z?
(32:10):
And did he jay Z? Is Sean? I have to
say I didn't know jay Z's first name was Sean
until you said it? Okay? And P Diddy is Sean?
Is Sean? Comes? Yes and like spelt different? But Sean?
And Beyonce's last name is Knowles mm hmmm, because no,
she is it? She knows? Or is it Sean? What
(32:37):
doesn't it make sense? Doesn't even.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Is it.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Sure? Even if it was, what would that mean? Okay,
it would mean both? Okay, both Sean are following you
plus Knolls, You're all four because jay Z had the
album full for four. Not only does she know but Sean.
(33:12):
It still doesn't make crying because I'm so moved by it.
It doesn't make it any Why did at Bece half
a Grammy? Then why did she give her half a Grammy?
You have to thank keeps running around Jesus because everybody's
(33:35):
bitching and then everyone's or you have to thank Beyonce
in your speeches because otherwise otherwise Okay, no, No, the
aforementioned sacrifice, they don't go it. They don't go into it. Recently,
some country artists thank Beyonce fair contribution, and they're all
(33:58):
doing it because they're scared because you know who didn't
thank Beyonce. Amy, Why I've got this from TikTok. I'm
not I'm not bringing this up. I just spent five
minutes in a tik tok and I think Beyonce killed
baby one else. Okay, okay, I need real, I need
(34:21):
to be real. Do you actually no, But for the
purposes of this, I'm honestly only just getting started. You see,
every time Beyonce starts one of her world tours, a
massive music icon dies. So she starts one world tour boom.
Michael Jackson dead. Is that because isn't that just because
every year someone dies? No, it's because Beyonce starts her tours.
(34:43):
Whitney Houston, some guy named Bobby died, hold On Prince died.
What about people who died of natural cause they were
all sacrificed. That's who she's sacrificing. Aretha Franklin, Tina Turner died.
And now, according to TikTok, people are begging Beyonce to
stop touring because he was killing people. She keeps killing
(35:04):
people every time she announces it tour, someone died. Okay,
nobody wants to sit down and just be like, but
why why would she? What is so? The reason why
is because she's actually killing them all before her tour start,
so that she can do a tribute. What Yeah? And apparently,
oh my god, because she was competitive before a flight.
(35:25):
There are more questions and answered, wait didn't she die
in a yeah? Yeah, but she was drugged before the
plane crash. Why would you need to drug her if
she was if the plane was going to crash? Well,
what Beyonce did. It's like being like someone died in
a car accident, but I drugged them before, and it's like,
well the drugging was kind of No, Beyonce drug people. Clear,
(35:48):
she kills people twice. You should have drunk the pilot.
What Beyonce did is she overloaded the plane. Aaliyah saw
that it was overloaded, and she was like, I'm not
going on that plane. It's dangerous. So she went back
to her car, at which stage someone gave her a
sedative and then put it back on the plane. So
she was murdered by Beyonce speaking of everyone on TikTok,
is like, now j colesong had mysteriously disappeared, and I
(36:12):
was like, that's dodgy, And then I went on Spotify
and it's there is the most TikTok thing when people
like have you noticed blah, and then you're like, that's
not true. That's not a true thing. I would another clue.
You know the song she Knows, Yeah, No, there's a
reference to apple Pie, which is a Destiny's Child song.
(36:34):
It's also a dessert, also a dessert. It's also reference
to the American pie. Yeah. Then there's the Sea a tweet.
Have you heard about the Sea? A tweet? No, God, Claire,
please read this tweet by Sea. Okay, baby, everything you own?
Nice cat eats, yeah, kangaroo is dead nowhere and purple
(36:57):
penguins every day my egg, Greg Sea. It just looks
like another innocuous sea A tweet. No, it looks like
a sea a tweet where somebody might actually be like, hey, sweet,
how you going making much sense on your Twitter? You
think that, but luckily TikTok is here to decode it
for you. Turn it over and read what it says
when it's deck coded? Ah my? Or does it say Claire?
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Oh my god?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Okay, so the first letter of every word spells out
Beyonce kidnapped me? God? Do you need any more evidence?
Absolutely not. I didn't think so you won't believe it.
But allegedly this tweet is not real. Okay, I was
gonna say. She is not known for like unhinged tweets
(37:45):
her Twitter presence necessarily, and I don't know. I had
never heard that, just when you think things can't get
any worse. But I like that they put kangaroo in
there to make it seem like it was her because
she's Australian. Yeah yeah, and the reference to penguins. Have
you seen the Jojo Siwa thing? Mm hmmmm hmm. Okay,
because she'd like to be a part of this. No, okay,
(38:07):
I am not on Beyonce, she talk, I'm not on spiracy.
Tip you on Jojo? Yeah, and what Jojo did was
that Jojo made a funny joke referencing like, oh I
gotta thank Beyonce blah blah blah, and then she hasn't
been seen. I'm pretty sure that TikTok would have made
(38:27):
like two hours after I'll play you. What she said,
I have to say.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Thank you would give the gest community scene.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Play music. We all love to it.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
We all love you anyways so much. I've said it once,
not say it again, Jojo, you need to get off TikTok.
But I love that she was on TikTok so much
that she made like a meta TikTok joke at the awards.
But I don't think she was joking. I think Jojo
is totally invested in the Beyonce conspiracy theory. Really, I
(39:01):
thought she did it as a funny, genuinely quite annoying.
It's genuinely quite funny. That was a funny Jojo. No
when goodwie Jojo, because I'm on TikTok too. What she's
done is she has thrust this Beyonce conspiracy theory into
the mainstream and being like, oh, it's this underground TikTok thing. Yeah,
and now I'm just going to go. No, guys, you
(39:22):
have to thank Beyonce. She's going to kill you. Jojo.
Not helpful. Okay, Well, question has she been seen since?
I haven't seen her since because I'm not on Jojo TikTok.
I think she's fine. I think she's fine too. People
are literally accusing Beyonce being a serial killer, a mass
serial killer, Sean Knowles, Sean Noles, and JoJo's over here
(39:46):
making light of it. Jojo, this is no laughing matter either.
The woman goes to court, we let her be Okay, Yeah,
it is time for charges and sentences. My charge, she's
(40:10):
had a relatively controversy free run. I will say that's
why this episode taking us a long long time to do.
How to wait until there was a conspiracy about her
being sacrificial exactly, sacrificed in order to have enough content exactly.
My charge though, are the brain cells it took me
to get across that conspiracy theory because you know, when
(40:32):
you're learning something like in history, yeah, and you're trying
to get across something complicated, but you're like, essentially this
makes sense because it's a thing that happened. Yes, so
just you get in the helicopter and you go, so
A happened, B happens, C happened, and a cause B COSC.
But the other thing about acquiring knowledge in that way,
and this is something I find often when I'm doing
canceled research, is you need a framework in which to
(40:54):
hang bits of notices. Yeah, okay, So say I'm doing
some research on Chloe Kardashian. I'm like, easy, I could
draw a Kardashian family tree. We got Caitlyn Jenner, We've
got so much right. The hard thing is when you
are trying to hang bits of information on a frame
that doesn't exist, that doesn't exist, and you've got questions,
you don't know who to ask them to know, because
(41:16):
you can very unserious because the conspiracy theorist, what's Ja
Cole got to stup with anything? That's what I was
gonna ask. Why does Ja Cole know that Sean Knowles M? Yeah, yeah,
I have another question. How's Beyonce killing them? Who she killed?
Where does it say that she has to thank them?
(41:36):
What's that got to do with? This? Feels like a
save britished you. A couple of things popped up that
it just clearly photoshopped images of like Beyonce just at
a party. Yeah, I saw a photoshopped one that was
her getting up to accept a Grammy shouldn't win. And
I was like, oh, that's incredibly embarrassing. Yeah, like I
need to find it just wasn't real. No, that's true.
(41:58):
It's really hard to actually research on half of the
dc aren't real, and when there's a lot of context
that doesn't exist because it's all made in a mess
of mud. That yes, But what I've got is a
sense that Beyonce sacrificial my sentences. It's a common one
(42:19):
in the council courtroom. Double jeopardy okay, okay, the internet
Jojo thinks he did it? Did what uncle? Yeah killed
any one? House killed a late a liar? Were you
the pilot? A Liah goes to the car being like,
I don't want to get on the plane. It's just
so many, so many things would have had to do. Yeah,
it's like she's overloaded the plane, she's manipulated the pilot.
(42:42):
She actually knows aeronautical and a plane crash. And then
Alia is like, I don't want to get on the plane,
and Beyonce is sitting in the car. Yes, luckily, Yeah,
thank god, I've got a sedative. Yeah. And the question
is why, why to listen to me? And why? Well,
(43:06):
if you're already sacrificial and you you are already you're
a serial killer in Hollywood, I just do it. What
do you mean everyone believes it? That's my sentence. Oh
my god, you think she's I'm talking. I'm talking double jeopardy, Claire.
I'm talking double jeopardy. You cannot be tried for the
same crime twice. You can't can't be done. I've looked
it up. Oh wow, So she's already been. In the
(43:28):
eyes of Claire. These have been viewed by tens of
millions of people, and I can't tell you how much
they believe their own shit. Okay, yeah, they believe it. Okay,
So I reckon go around in the court of public opinion.
She's already been, she's already done it. Mm hm, next minute. Oh,
where Taylor Swift go? Where did Adele go? Wow? Beyonce
is just full leaning into the conspiracy theory. Yeah, and
(43:49):
run's in a prison in a basement. So bizire. I
think like Taylor Swift didn't thank her, she was going
to kill it. Yeah. Yeah, and that was the thing
is that Kanye got up and was like, I'll just
thank Beyonce, and it's like, yeah, because Kanye has got
a great reputation for making good decisions and defending women,
that's a joke. He doesn't have a reputation for of
(44:10):
those things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Claire, what is your charge?
My charge is simple? Sean knowles Sean what Sean? Okay?
What does that mean? Exactly? What's the sentence? Then? Sure?
I think if we say it enough, that's the thing.
(44:32):
If you say anything enough, it makes sense. Imbune meaning yeah,
if you look at somebody and kind of raise your eyebrows,
then see, she knows is a thing that makes sense.
There are two words in the English language. Actually, sure,
Noles isn't a person.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
I think.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Actually, if you were listening to that song I'm trying
to build a case stick to she Knows, you don't
have to go down. There are all these things on
TikTok that are like, it's like the Aliah there, Michael
Jackson bitt that's like she knows and it's just Beyonce,
Like imagine Beyonce like her renaissance thing, just like a
silhouette of Beyonce being like she knows, and she does
look us because she's mid concert. Yeah, hasn't somebody been
(45:11):
charged Michael Jackson's death? Yeah, six degrees of separation always
leads right back to Beyonce her yeah, because she knows.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
No.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Okay, So seriously, my sentency is not absolutely nothing is
poor man? Poor woman. She's walking around Hollywood and all
these young little TikTokers are looking at her, being like,
stop sacrificing people. Oh I wonder if the live he
is on TikTok. That must be sad to learn that
your mum is sacrificing people by the internet. Yeah, it
(45:39):
would be. And then you know, when you're scared to
ask your mom a question? Yeah, mom, do you sacrifice
people with her? And thank you to Ward if you've
been on TikTok again. Yes, Claire, I have a laser
girl story. Oh yeah, we now soap send us a
voice message to our Instagram, right, yeah, like a voice note, yep,
(45:59):
and laser girls take a minute. Yeah, I think this
could have been months ago. But to listen to a
voice note, Yeah, I got a breastplay. Yeah right, but
I gotta be some we can listen and yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway,
a press the play. I mean tell you what she
told me. Okay, good, she said with her friend. Her
and her friend went to our canceled last year at
the Powerhouse Museum. They're really enjoyed. Yeah, they're laser girls.
(46:20):
They're like sooth has a sprain ankle. Oh no, she
showed herself because lady girls are constantly injured. And her friend,
who was sitting on the couch giggling as she was
sending this voice note, she has a sore hip okay,
and wrist. I'm god, I've got a saw risk. I
think I have a ganglion. Okay. I think her friend
does too, because she's gone to the chemist to buy
(46:41):
like a strap for her wrist, which I reckon is
actually a whole lazy girl story in it. Yeah self, yeah,
because nothing gets you out of something like a strap
yep on your wrist. And she's not being to the
doctor anything. She doesn't plan to. She doesn't think it's
actually sprain or anything.
Speaker 4 (46:57):
It's just saw.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
We just need medical accessors. Yeah, yeah, and her hip's
not great anyway. They're sending this voice message and they're
about like thirty centimeters away from each other, and they
were both in paint because the wrist and the hip
and the ankle, and and they were looking at one
of their phones, but so kept looking at her friend's phone,
and she didn't have the energy to go and scroll
(47:18):
on her phone, so she kept just gesturing, ah, yes,
to be like scroll, keep scrolling, keep scroll, keep scroll,
keep scroll. And they were sitting there giggling at themselves
and how lazy they were. And the third voice note
that they sent was just them laughing, going no, no, no,
they'll find it funny. They'll find it funny. They're lady girls.
And then they just did the impression of lazy girls
over and over again. Yeah. I really enjoyed it. Guys,
(47:40):
that's really fun because lazy girls always injured because they're
not doing things correctly, like lifting. We have weak joints.
We have weak joints. Honestly, the risk thing is from scrolling.
I'm not kidding. Look that's a bloody ganglion. Yeah, I've
got a ganglion. Two h Thank you so much for
joining us on this episode of Canceled. Canceled is produced
by Kimberly Bradish with audio production by Leah Porges. For
(48:03):
more from us, follow us on Instagram. At the Twins
Undersquare thoughts. Oh, you can find us on TikTok At
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