Product Journeys

Product Journeys

We are Product Managers based in Wellington, New Zealand. We want to inspire Product Managers on their product journey. Every couple of weeks we invite a product person to tell us about how they got into product and to share some gold nuggets they have found on that journey. Opinions expressed are solely our own and do not express the views of our employers.

Episodes

December 22, 2024 54 mins

The final episode for Season 2 featuring Andrew "Tokes" Tokeley in conversation with Fran and Lauchlan. Enjoy our take aways and final thoughts from the 10 episodes in Season Two.

Thank you to all our guests and listeners!

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We are Fran and Lauchlan, both Product Managers, and we are discovering the diverse skills and experience that are out there in the product world...

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In today's episode with Elizabeth Griffiths, CEO of NFT.Storage, we dive into web3 and how product management can be applied to a emerging space.

Elizabeth explains the evolution of the internet to Web3, emphasizing the significance of owning digital assets and the decentralized ledger system of blockchain. The discussion also touches upon the potential societal benefits of these technologies, such as improving voting systems and m...

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In this episode we chat to Ross Howard, CPO at Tradify.

Ross brings his graphic design and creative director background as a lens to Product Management. He talks about his experience with products that fail and when you know to pull the plug. We focus mostly on innovation and why it's so important to design processes that are specific to your company, your culture and your product.

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    I'm sure we've all read these great product books and thought I wish that's how my company operated. In today's episode with Bridget Cowie we explore how leaning into the messy and fast paced aspects of a job could be exactly how bringing 'ideal product management' to life feels.

    We explore how being pragmatic with your approach and being okay to iterate and make changes over time is key to building trust and helping a growing busi...

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    Listen to our episode with Para Muraleedharan, who currently leads two product companies under the Evercommerce portfolio: Timely in ANZ and SalonBiz in the US.

    Para walks through the product ladder from PO to PM to GM to CPO. Her insights are invaluable as she describes the changes she experienced at each step, with the biggest being GM to CPO level. This is a great round-up to previous episodes in the season, bringing back simila...

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    Today we're talking with Bec Sweeney, an amazing product leader about how curiosity can be an incredible tool for you to focus on.

    "That feeling of being in the grey is a good thing, and the more we can try and navigate it through kind of solid curiosity, and again, harnessing that curiosity, I think is where the magic lies"

    Some key points:

    • We'll explore how deliberate curiosity plays are role in a product leaders success.
    • We...
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    Today we have the pleasure of sharing with you our conversation with Product Leadership Coach Andrew Tokeley, known by everyone as "Tokes".

    Tokes is well known in the Aotearoa Product Community. He launched ProductTank Wellington and is chair of Product Aotearoa. His claim to fame is being the first Product Manager at Xero back in the day. He is currently focusing on Product Leaders in Aotearoa and developing a network of CPOs acro...

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    In this episode we welcome Corinna Stukan to talk about the topic of data! Corinna is the author of The Insights Driven Product Manager: Master Product Metrics And Uncover True Data Insights.
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    We have an amazing conversation that explore some of the many complexities around making great decisions as a product person using data.

    Some key areas we explore are:

    • Understanding the v...
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    In this episode of Product Journeys, we speak to Product Leader and Consultant Anthony Marter. on the topic of business acumen and his work to bring Product Leaders in Aotearoa together.

    Anthony is chair of Product Aotearoa and co-founder of ProductTank Auckland. Anthony spoke at ProductTank Auckland with Melissa Firth, who we interviewed in Season 1, Episode 42. Listen to their talk: World Product Day - Getting real on commercial ...

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    In this episode of Product Journeys, hosts Fran Gleisner and Lauchlan Robertson go on a journey with Andy Hovey, from Xero to Xerra (but not yet Xerox), and dipping into the Andes on the back of a bike.

    Andy has worked on websites, apps and software for over two decades. He’s currently the Chief Product Officer at Starboard, a ~25 person company making geospatial maritime software that governments buy to tackle issues like illegal ...

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    Welcome to the first episode of Season 2!

    In this episode of Product Journeys, hosts Fran Gleisner and Lauchlan Robertson kick off the second season with an engaging conversation with Ben Pujji, the Chief Product Officer at atomic.io. We talk about influence and how important it is for building to build credibility and keep showing up. Ben brings a wealth of knowledge from his extensive career in Product management and other...

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    July 14, 2024 5 mins

    This episode is an intro to our season two!


    We are Fran and Lauchlan, both Product Managers, and we are discovering the diverse skills and experience that are out there in the product world. We aim to inspire product people on their journeys. Opinions expressed are solely our own and do not express the views of our employers.

    Get in touch: productjourneyspodcast@gmail.com

    Presenters: Fran Gleisner, Lauchlan Robertson
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    Here is a rerun of an episode with Elina. We had a lot of fun chatting to her, so we hope you enjoy this throwback.

    Elina is a co-founder of Storyo, a platform that shares the journeys of women and gender diverse people in Aotearoa. With 170+ stories in the bag, Elina does a lot of advocacy work around diversity, equity, inclusion and storytelling. She works as an Experience Designer in the health sector, with a background in produ...

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    Today we have a rerun of an early episode talking to Ramanan Moorthy.

    Ramanan is a Product Manager at Xero and has been with the company nearly 4 years. Ramanan is a pragmatic product leader who subscribes to modern product management practices. In the recent past, he contributed to the product community via Product Tank Auckland; by connecting NZ product people with international product thought- leaders. His career goal is to hel...

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    Here is a re-run of Season 1 Episode 30. We hope you enjoy this episode with Tanya Johnson.

    Tanya has worked in product teams for 20+ years, with leadership roles spanning across strategy, product management, design, and software development. Specialising in high growth fast-scaling technology and SaaS companies, Tanya strives to create diverse team environments - championing the development of innovative products that reflect our ...

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    We are back with a rerun of our conversation with Chloe Leon.

    Chloe is an empathetic product leader with a passion for creating elegant solutions that solve real-world problems. Her background is in technology consulting which led to her to the world of Product Management. Chloe prides herself in continuous learning and building structures that lead to high performing, empowered product teams.

    Here are some of the things we discuss...

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    In this Episode, Fran and Lauchlan reflect upon season one. They focus on the things that surprised them, the learnings they took away and some of the key points that resonated.

    They would love to know what surprised you, what you learnt and what has resonated for you. And if you could choose one episode to re-run which episode would that be?

    Our rapid fires:

    • Do you have any books or articles you would recommend?
    • Do you listen...
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    December 31, 2023 34 mins

    In this Episode, the final episode of Season 1, we talk to Melissa Firth.

    Melissa Firth is an experienced software executive and product & CX leader with 25+ years in digital media, product development & innovation in B2C, B2B, SaaS and public sector. She’s currently working as a “fractional executive” helping kiwi tech companies realise their growth goals.

    Here are some of the key points we talked about:

    • Experi...
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    In this Episode we talk to Penny Wildash.

    In March 2008, as an accountant and mum looking to return to work, Penny sought a role that provided flexibility and, unwittingly joined a very hectic early stage Xero as part of customer team. 5 years later she moved into the product team as a BA, following into PO, PM & finally the Snr Group Product Manager role. She describes it as a very personal journey of growth, and baptism of fi...

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    In this Episode we talk to Adam Wright. This is part 2 of 2:

    Adam began his product journey as a leap from QA, and gained experience at Flux federation building energy management software, before heading to Xero, a stint at a digital conferencing startup, before returning to Xero and now at Kiwi edtech Education Perfect. Adam has learned a tonne along the way and seen the good bad and the ugly and learned a lot about operati...

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