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Strange mysteries, unexplained phenomena.
And the shadows in between.
This is The InBetween Official Podcastwith your host,
Carol Ann!
Eight massive spiral
wells plunging 648m beneath the KhafrePyramid.
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Underground chamberslarger than 25 story buildings.
Ancient tunnels that make modern subwayslook primitive.
The pyramid we've been staring at formillennia
is just the tip of the iceberg.
What we're about to explore
will shatter 4500 years of historyand everything archeology thought it knew.
I'm CarolAnn and Welcome to The InBetween.
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On March 15th, 2025,so just a few days ago,
a team of researchers led by CorradoMalanga from the University of Pisa,
Filippo Biondi from the Universityof Strathclyde, and researcher Armando Mei
made an announcement that sent shockwavesthrough the archeological community.
And promisedmore information is on the way.
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Like soon.
But to fully understand what they foundand how they found it,
we're going to have to back upjust a tiny bit.
Most of you,I'm sure, are familiar with traditional
radar that sends out signals and measureshow they bounce back.
Well,there is a specialized version of this
called Synthetic Aperture Radar, or SAR,that does the same thing,
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but specifically with electromagnetwaves from a satellite in space.
SAR was developed around the 1950s,and has been used ever since to map
for everything from military surveillanceto measuring deforestation,
to monitoring the structural integrityof bridges and dams.
It broke into the field of archeologywith its ability to map large hidden
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ground structures in placeslike the Mayan plains of southern Mexico
and northern Guatemala, and AngkorWat in Cambodia,
where the vegetationwas too thick to see anything.
But this team has developed a technologythat doesn't just read
the returning electromagnetic wavesto look for physical structures.
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It detects tiny vibrations.
Everything on Earth vibratesat some level, from wind, from nearby
traffic, from constant micro seismicbackground vibrations of the Earth itself.
Most of these vibrations are so tinywe can't feel them, but they're there.
The satellite radar can detect theseminute vibrations on the pyramid surface,
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and by analyzing how these vibrationstravel through the structure,
the researchers can mapwhat's inside and underneath.
Just like how a doctor uses a sonogramto see inside the human body,
except this is being done from space,looking through solid stone,
and mapping structureshundreds of meters deep.
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The technology is called SyntheticAperture Radar Doppler Tomography,
and it was developedby these same researchers
who first tested iton the Great Pyramid of Khufu,
the biggest of the three Gizapyramids, in 2022.
That 2022 study,published in the respected scientific
journal Remote Sensing, (Notto be confused with remote viewing.
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That's a whole other video.) showedthe technique could successfully identify
known chambers and corridorswithin the Khufu Pyramid.
The fact that they were ableto accurately map known features
before finding new ones is crucial.
It's proof of concept.
Their technology works.
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They then went on from there,discovering a whole slew
of new formations inside the pyramidthat no one knew existed.
And now they've applied it to the Khafrepyramid, right next door.
I have to stop herefor just a tick to clarify
something about those 2022 researchfindings.
I will put a link in the descriptionto that study
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if you want to gotake a look for yourself.
But I need to quickly point something outbecause if we have any Egyptologists
or a Pyramidologists out there,you might get a little confused.
Mario Pincherle, an Italian engineer,who in the 20th century proposed
that the Great Pyramid encasesa preexisting, what he called Zed tower,
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a roughly 300 foot tall granite monolith
supposedly from an Atlantean civilization.
He claimed this Zed was the pyramids core.
The reason I point this outis because in the 2022 research paper,
and in this new information,
these three researchersrefer to a Zed structure as well.
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But it seems as thoughwhat they are calling the Zed structure is
the same thing known to most peopleas the weight relief structure.
That's been a known thing for a while.
So why they're now calling itthe Zed structure, I have no idea.
But I wanted to point that outso people don't get confused.
Now, it's entirely possiblethat I'm the one confused,
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but just know that in this context,when we talk about the Zed structure,
we're talking about that weightrelief structure.
So let's break downexactly what they found, because it's
absolutely mind blowing.
Near the base of the Khafre pyramid,they've identified five
identical structures, eachwith five horizontal levels and sloping
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roofs, all connected by perfectly straightgeometric pathways.
These aren't natural formations.
They appear to be deliberatelyengineered spaces
with precise dimensions and layouts,which to me,
look just like thatZed formation from the Khufu pyramid.
But that's just the beginning.
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Below these surface structures, the scansreveal eight
cylindrical formationsthat appear to be vertical, hollow wells,
each one surrounded by a spiraling
something that descends into the earth.
Think of it like eight massive corkscrewsdrilling deep into the ground,
arranged in two parallel rows, running
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north to south beneath the pyramid.
According to these researchers,these wells extend
down to a depth of 648m, or 2126ft.
Let me put that in perspective for you.
The Empire State Building is 443m tall.
The Eiffel Tower is only 330m.
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We're talking about structuresthat reach nearly twice
the height of the Eiffel Tower....
straight down into the earth....
built thousands of years ago.
At this extreme depth, the eight wells
appear to merge into two enormous
cubic structures,each measuring about 80m on each side.
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Roughly the height of a 25 story building.
And that's not even all of it.
The SAR scans have also revealed a vast
underground complexthat could extend up to two kilometers,
or 1.2miles, beneath the entire Giza Plateau.
If verified, this would completely rewrite
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what we know about ancientEgyptian engineering capabilities.
It would mean that what we seeabove ground at Giza,
as impressive as that is, mightliterally be the tip of the iceberg
and the entranceto something far more extraordinary.
The big question, of course, iswhat was all this for?
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If these structures exist,as the researchers claim, what purpose
did they serve?
The conventional view is that the pyramidswere essentially elaborate
tombs, monuments
to house the remains of pharaohs,and help them journey to the afterlife.
But if these findings are confirmed,
that explanationseems woefully inadequate.
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Who would build an underground complexover a mile
deep just for burial purposes?
The researchers themselveshave some pretty controversial theories
based on their findings at both pyramids.
They suggest the structuresweren't primarily tombs at all,
but sophisticated machinesthat used water and acoustic properties
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to serve some as yet unknown purpose.
For the Khafre structures specifically.
They've drawn analogiesto modern structures like nuclear
reactor cores,which use water for cooling, and offshore
oil platforms,which rely on cylindrical supports
extending deep into the water,To help conceptualize
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how these ancient structuresmight have functioned.
The spiraling pathways aroundthe cylindrical wells could have been part
of an elaborate system to controlor harness groundwater resources.
The Giza Plateau sits near the Nile River,and the water table in the region
has fluctuated over the millennia.
Could these deep wellshave been designed to access groundwater,
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perhaps for some ritualisticor practical purpose?
There's evidence suggestingwater played an important role in ancient
Egyptian structures.
Researchers have noted signs of watererosion
in passagesand chambers of various pyramids.
The nearby Sphinx showssimilar patterns of water erosion
that have puzzled geologists for decades.
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Ancient texts describe boatsbeing used in funeral processions
to the pyramids, despite the sitebeing miles from the Nile today.
Geological evidence suggeststhat the Nile's course has changed over
the millennia and may once have comeright up to where the pyramids are.
The ancient Egyptians were knownfor their sophisticated water engineering.
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They built elaborate irrigation systems,water clocks, and other hydraulic devices.
Is it so far fetched to thinkthat they might have incorporated water
into their most ambitious constructionprojects?
Some researchers have even suggestedthe pyramids might have functioned
as energy devices,harnessing natural forces
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like Earth's vibrations, acoustics,or even electromagnetic energy.
The pyramids geometric precision,their geographical placement
and their internal structureall hint at purposes
way beyond a burial tomb.
The evidence has been staring usin the face for decades,
and with these new discoveries,it becomes nearly impossible to ignore.
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The pyramids of Giza are almostcertainly thousands of years older
than conventional Egyptologywould have us believe.
Let's be clear.
The dating of the pyramids to around2500 BCE
was never based on directphysical evidence.
It was primarily established throughcultural assumptions and interpretations
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of hieroglyphic text, many of whichwere translated long after the fact.
The actual structures themselvestell a different story.
The weathering patterns on the Sphinx,which sits directly adjacent to the Khafre
pyramid, show clear signs of water erosionthat could only have occurred
when the region experiencedheavy rainfall.
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According to climatologists,the last time Egypt had this
kind of precipitation was between 10and 12,000 years ago, placing the Sphinx’s
construction many millenniabefore the rise of dynastic Egypt.
These newly discovered spiral wells,descending
648m beneath Khafre,
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add substantial weightto this alternative timeline.
Such deep structures would extendfar below the current water table, meaning
they only could have been constructedwhen sea levels were much lower.
Precisely the conditions that existedduring the last ice age,
which ended around 11,700 years ago.
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If you've watched our specialone hour deep dive on Atlantis
and the eye of the Sahara,also known as the Richat Structure,
you'll recognize this timelineimmediately.
The destruction of Atlantis,according to Plato's detailed account,
occurred around 9600 BCE, rightas the Ice Age was ending
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and catastrophic flooding was reshapingcoastlines worldwide.
The Richat Structure in Mauritania,
with its concentric rings matching Plato'sdescription perfectly, sits
just 350 miles from the northAfrican coast.
Could engineers from thisnow devastated civilization
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have brought their advanced technologicalknowledge to the Nile Valley?
The evidence increasingly suggeststhey did, or someone did.
These underground structuresbeneath Khafre may represent the most
compelling evidence yet that an advancedcivilization established itself
in Egypt thousands of yearsbefore the first pharaohs.
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Their sophisticatedunderstanding of hydraulics and astronomy
was gradually inherited by laterEgyptian cultures,
who built upon these ancient foundations.
Mainstream archeology continuesto resist these conclusions,
but with each new discovery,
their position is getting harderand harder to maintain.
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If these discoveries are confirmed,the sheer
scale and precision of these undergroundstructures demand we reconsider
not just what the builders knew, but
when they lived and who they really were.
These claims have naturally generatedintense debate.
Many Egyptologists questionwhether SAR technology
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can reliably detect structuresat such extreme depths.
Others point out that these findingscontradict thousands of years
of Egyptian funerarytraditions and textual evidence.
The Egyptian Ministry of Tourismand Antiquities
has not yet issued an official statement,suggesting their caution
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before acceptingsuch revolutionary claims.
I'm sure more evidencewill have to be provided
before they're on board,which makes perfect sense,
as long as they don't slow rollthe process of more testing.
However, one interesting thingabout using this SAR Doppler method
is that it's donefrom an orbiting satellite,
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from a private company,completely non-invasively.
So there's no wayfor the Egyptian government to say no.
And I think, and this is just my opinionat this point until we learn more,
but I think the researchers on this teamare rolling this out directly
to the people, completely circumventing
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the usual archeological discoveryreview process,
which I love.
People are smart.
Give them the data.
If it's wrong,they will not hesitate to let you know.
The research team, now calling themselvesthe Khafre Project,
has provided specific coordinatesfor these structures
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and are calling for additional scansusing complementary technologies.
They've proposednondestructive methods, like
improved muon detection or seismicimaging, to verify their findings
before any physical explorationis attempted.
Any such work would require approvalfrom Egyptian authorities,
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who are understandably protectiveof their historical monuments.
But the researchers believethe potential discovery
is significant enoughto warrant further investigation.
If confirmed, these findings
would revolutionizeour understanding of ancient history.
They would suggest that 4500 years
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ago, human beingsachieved engineering feats
that would still impress us todaywith modern technology.
Or perhaps even more radically,
that these structures date back much,
much further to a timewhen conventional history tells us
that humans were all just huntergatherers, using primitive tools.
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Kind of makes you wonderwhat else is hiding right under our feet.
What other assumptions about our pastare going
to be challenged by new discoveries?
Whether these findings prove accurateor not,
the pyramids continue to challengeour understanding of the past.
After thousands of years of study,
we're still learningnew things about them all the time.
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The beauty of scienceis that it's self-correcting.
These findings will be scrutinized,tested, and either confirmed or refuted.
Either way,they push us to look at familiar wonders
with fresh eyes and ask new questionsabout our ancient past.
For now, the pyramids will keeptheir ultimate secrets hidden,
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as they have for millennia.
But perhaps the veil is slowlybeing lifted, revealing a past
more complex, sophisticated and ancientThan we ever imagined.
if you are into ancient mysteries
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and are curious about how Atlantis ties inwith that Richat Structure
we mentioned, click right herefor an entire episode on it.
Be careful out there.
And I will see you hereagain, on The InBetween.
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I'm Carol Ann.
And until next time, be careful out
there!