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Strange mysteries, unexplained phenomena.
And the shadows in between.
This is The InBetween Official Podcastwith your host,
Carol Ann!
22,000 feet ofsacred stone that no one has ever climbed.
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Not because they can't,but because the mountain won't let them.
Compasses spin wildly.
Storms appear from nowhere.
And those who venture too highseem to age years in a single day.
Welcome to The InBetween.
I'm Carol Ann, and todaywe're unraveling the mysteries of Mount
Kailash.
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If you've watched this channel
for any length of time,you know we are quite fond of triangles.
But today we're going to switch things upa bit and instead look at
what is probably the world'smost mysterious rectangle.
That's right.
This mysterious four sided wonder,better known as Mount Kailash,
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Kailash Parvat or “The Stairwayto Heaven,” has been a focal point
of the Himalayan mountainrange for centuries.
Maybe not the focal point.
I think that designationrightfully belongs to Mt.
Everest,but a focal point in its own right.
Now, if you're likeme, I'd never heard of this place
until it was brought to my attentionby a couple of our InBetweeners.
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So let me catch everyone up to speed.
Mount Kailash is a pyramid shaped mountain
in the transHimalayan range in southwestern Tibet,
which is a mountain rangethat runs parallel to the Himalayas,
just north of where Tibet, Nepal and Indiaall meet.
As mountainsgo, it's tall, standing at 21,778
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feet or 6638 meters, so
well above the need extra oxygen zone.
But don't be too impressed.
It doesn't even make the top 100 listof tallest mountains.
And despite its sheer
appearance, it's been ratedas not the most difficult to climb.
It's kind of a man mountain.
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So why has no one ever made it to the top?
Close to 7000 people have summited
Everest and it's 50% taller.
Well, the answer's pretty simple:
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Pretty bold statement.
I know.
But there is enough high strangenesssurrounding this place
that I think it just might be true.
First of all, it loves the number four.
The mountain has four facesthat face each direction of the compass,
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north, south, east and west,almost perfectly.
It is the source of four major riversthat come from each of those directions.
the Indus River, which flowsnorth, the Sutlej, which flows west,
the Brahmaputra,which flows east, and the Karnali River,
which flows south tuning into the Ganges.
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And it is the holiest of holy placesfor four religions,
three of which are in the topten largest faiths.
Hindus believe this is the homeof the God of destruction, Shiva
and his wife, Parvati.
Buddhists believe that it is the residenceof the embodiment
of supreme bliss, the Buddha Demchok.
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Jains, another ancient Indianreligious group, believe
that the first Jain to reachenlightenment, Rishabhanatha, did so here.
For the Bon people,the mountain is the home of their sky
goddess Sipaimen, and all four believe
that the mountain servesas a gateway between Heaven and Earth
and that it is the center of the universe,or what they call the Axis Mundi.
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The Hindus saythey can actually see the face of Shiva
on the side of the mountainand a swastika,
which has long been a symbol of life,good fortune and eternity for all four
religions, is said to appear
on the south facewhen the sun sinks low enough in the sky.
not to mention that on the top
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of the mountain,the snow pattern takes the shape of “om”,
the most important symbol in the Hindureligion,
representing supremeabsolute consciousness. “Om”
Yeah, that ohm!
but let's leave the spiritual for a momentand turn to the more scientific.
Mount Kailash is actually madeof something called Black Rock,
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which is a nicknamefor the dark metamorphic rock, gneiss
and schistthat make up the majority of the mountain.
But interestingly, Kailash is rock
is different from the rocksmaking up its neighbors.
Many trekkers reportthat compasses are useless
because the needle just spins around.
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And there isn’t really any plant lifeto speak of.
The higher elevations of its neighbors
don’t have any either,but at least they have some plant life
closer to their bases,whereas Kailash has nothing.
Also, Kailash’s south sidehas more snow than the north side.
Most south-facing mountains,at least those in the northern hemisphere,
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have less snowdue to their exposure to the sun,
but just the oppositeseems to be true on Kailash.
In 2015, Dr.
Rajesh Kumarand his team on a joint research project
between India and Nepal,found unusually high levels of negative
ion concentrations around the mountain,which they say might contribute
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to the resilienceand health of both the flora and fauna
of the surrounding areain spite of the harsh conditions.
Chinese researchers found that pilgrimsclimbing the mountain experienced
fewer symptoms of altitude sicknessthan expected,
and other studiesshow minor wounds heal faster.
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Japanese studies discuss large scaleformations on the mountain surface
that can't be explainedby natural phenomena.
An international Geological Congress team
discovered anomalieswithin the mountain's internal structure.
I have no idea what those anomalies are,but in 2012, Russian scientist Dr.
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Sergei Kuchokov found that the mountainhas an unusually high magnetic field,
powerful enough that it can disruptcompasses and other electronic devices.
He thinks these magnetic anomaliesmight come
from unknown materialswithin the mountain itself.
In 2016, Chinese Professor Zhahn Le Bai,
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replicated the Russian study’s findings,confirming that the magnetic fields inside
the mountain are not only strong,but irregularly distributed.
His team even detectedgravitational anomalies in some areas,
which have since been corroboratedby even newer research.
In 2019 and 2021.
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Attached to Kailash,both geographically and spiritually
are the twin lakes of Manasarovarand Rakshas Tal.
I call them the Twin Lakes
because they sit right next to each other,but they are anything but.
“we’re twins.
That's right.”They're more like yin and yang.
Manasarovar is one of the world’shighest freshwater lakes,
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full of aquatic life with a surface
that is almost always smooth and peaceful.
It’s constant intake of meltingglacial water means it
never freezes over,no matter how cold it gets.
Rakshas Tal, also known as
the Demon Lake, is a saltwater lake,with no life
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and a surfacethat is almost always full of waves.
It does get fed freshwaterfrom Manasarovar through a small channel,
but it is an endorheic lake, meaningit has no outlets.
So these two lakes are just complete
opposites of each other even thoughthey sits right next to each other.
Manasarovar is thought of as the light,and Rakshas Tal, the dark.
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Tradition holds
that if you are on your way to MountKailash for a spiritual pilgrimage,
you must first stop and cleanse yourselfin the peaceful waters of Manasarovar.
I wonder what happensif you make a mistake and scrub up
in the Demon Lake instead?
And, people camping nearthese lakes have claimed to hear strange
voices and wailing will echoing around,and that there are often
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mysterious splashes or the sounds ofsomething moving in the water,
and that the ghosts of past sagescan be seen bathing in the lake.
A completely different kind of weirdnesslies in the fact that Mount Kailash
supposedly sits exactly 6666
kilometers from Stonehengeand the North Pole,
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and exactly twice that distance,or 13,332 kilometers from the South Pole.
But let's get backto whether or not Kailash is climbable.
It's not that peoplehaven't tried to climb it.
That's the problem.
They have.
They just can't seem to get to the top.
In 1926, Hugh Ruttledge, Colonel R. C.
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Wilson,and their Sherpa Tseten made their way
around the base looking for a placeto climb up the mountain.
Tseten tells the men,the southeast ridge is climbable.
The men say, “Great, let's go.
” They start climbing,and when they get about 1,500
feet from the top,the weather changes on a dime,
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and they have no choicebut to climb back down.
And the bad weather stays bad, until theyare off that mountain, then it clears up.
In 1936, Herbert Tichy rolls on up,wanting to climb it.
When he asked the localswhether Kailash was climbable,
their response was, “Only a man
entirely free of sin could climb Kailash.
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And he wouldn't have to actually scalethe sheer walls of ice to do it
– he'd just turn himself into a birdand fly to the summit”
Editor's note There is no clarificationas to whether good Sir
Tichy tried to climbor just turned around and went home.
There isn't a lot of informationfrom the thirties to the eighties.
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But keep in mind that when the Chinesetook over Tibet in the 1950s,
they didn't let anyone into the area sono one could get close enough to climb it.
Those restrictions were relaxed over time,but in the 1980s,
China made climbing Kailash ano no for real,
with the occasional exceptionfor scientific purposes, out of respect
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for the wishes of the over billion peoplewho see the mountain as a sacred place.
But of course, since they made the rules,they can break the rules.
And in the early eighties,they decided to take a stab at flying
a helicopter of scientistsover the mountain to study it.
Reports say that the trip there was great,filled with spectacular views,
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but again,the weather unexpectedly turned sour.
Their instruments went nutsand forced the helicopter to retreat.
Supposedly,this is what led to the Chinese government
declaring the area around Kailashas restricted airspace around 1985.
The Chinese extended an invitationto world renowned mountaineer
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Reinhold Messner.
Now, just in case you don't know whothis guy is, he's an Italian mountaineer
who is the first person to soloclimb Everest.
The first guy to climb Everestwithout oxygen and the first guy
to summit all 14 mountains over8,000 meters,
or 26,247feet, known in the climbing community
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as the 14 eight-thousanders,All of them without oxygen.
Just to namea few things off of his resume.
“We're not worthy.
We're not worthy.” Messner acceptedthe invitation, came to Tibet and explored
the Kailash area for a while,but declined the offer to actually summit
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the mountain dueto its religious significance, saying,
If we conquer this mountain, thenwe conquer something in people's souls.
Now, rumor has itthat also in the eighties,
a group of Americansattempted to summit the mountain.
According to the story, withinjust a few hours
of starting their ascent,they noticed that their hair
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and fingernailswere growing at an accelerated rate.
Understandably freaked out,they said, “Screw this”, turned around
and headed back down.
By the time they reached the bottom,their hair was allegedly stark white
and they had visibly aged years.
In 1999, award-winning and well-publishedscientist Dr.
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Ernst Muldashevled an expedition of experts in geology,
physics and history, organizedby the Russian Geographical Society,
to Tibet to explore Mount Kailash.
In preparation for the expedition,apparently he chatted with a Siberian
climbing teamthat had recently tried to summit Kailash
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and also expereinced this rapidaging process, and the story goes
that they died of old age within a yearafter their return.
As far as Dr.
Muldashev’s expedition goes,according to him, they didn’t grow old
or anything, but they heard some weirdsounds coming from inside the mountain,
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like somethingor someone was living inside.
In an academic paperhe published about the trip
and his experiences, Muldashevsays, “In the silence of the night,
there often were strange, gaspingsounds in the belly of the mountain.
One night, both my colleaguesand I distinctly heard the noise
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of a falling stonethat undoubtedly came from the interior.
“ Muldashev became absolutely
convinced that MountKailash was not a regular mountain,
but instead, an huge, hollowed outpyramid created by ancient superhumans.
And that Mount Kailash is surroundedby smaller pyramids
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and that all of them have a connectionto the pyramids in Giza and Teotihuacan.
He's not the only researcherto come to this conclusion.
Summarizing his thoughts on Mount Kailash,Muldashev wrote,
“It is hard for me to discuss this topicfrom a scientific point of view,
but I can quite positively saythat the Kailash complex
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is directly related to life on Earth.”
What he’s talking about is the Tibetanlegend of a city called Shambhala,
or the City of Gods, a place where
only the purest of heart can find the way.
According to legend, the city is a kind ofreservoir of the human gene pool
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that preserves the genes of peoplefrom ancient civilizations.
And Muldashev was convinced itexisted underneath Kailash.
Muldashev is not the first personto think that Mount Kailash
has to be the gateway to,or at least a beacon for, Shambhala.
In Buddhism, Shambhalaa mythical kingdom of enlightenment
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and peace, is hiddensomewhere in the Himalayan region.
Kailash and the area surroundinghas been studied pretty thoroughly
by the Chinese, who found an extensivesystem of tunnels in the mountain’s base.
Not that unusual.
Lots of mountainshave evidence of past volcanic activity.
Except Kailash was not createdby volcanic activity.
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The entire Himalayan and trans Himalayanranges are a result of tectonic plate
movement, with the Indian platecrashing into the Eurasian plate. Hmm.
Maybe the tunnels being the entranceto Shambala isn't such a far fetched idea.
In 2001, a Spanish teamrequested to climb the peak.
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China says nope!
Then in 2007, Russian climber SergeiCistiakov
and his team were granted permission.
they get to the mountainand get ready to climb.
But as soon as he'sstanding in front of the mountain, ready
to take his first steps of the ascent,his heart starts to pound in his chest.
Here he is, the same place
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so many before him have failed.
He feels weak and terrified he'sgoing to fail,
that the magic of the sacred placewill be stronger than he is.
Well,maybe he's just psyching himself out.
So he and his buddies start to climb.
Within just a couple of hours,they all start getting headaches.
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Not exactly a surprise when you're upthat high and the oxygen is so thin.
So they just bite the bulletand keep climbing.
But the headaches don't go away.
Instead,the climbers legs start to feel heavy
and hard to moveand they can barely crawl.
And this isn't even the tough partof the climb yet.
Sergei feels extremely weak and becomesfixated on the idea
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that they have to go back down,that they don't belong here.
He decides to turn aroundand go back down.
But when he tries to let his teammatesknow that he's going back, he can't talk.
His jaw is completely locked shut.
Well, his mates must have all hadthe same thought
because they all turn aroundand start going back down.
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And as soon as they do,Sergei feels all of his muscles relaxing
and a sensation of freedomand weightlessness washes over him.
And he feels this strong energyof beneficence, of goodwill envelop him.
So much so that by the timehe gets back down the mountain,
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he doesn't give a crap about failingto summit the mountain.
He's just high on life.
Later, Sergei writes, I am convincedthat the warnings of Tibetan writings
are not mere figments, and the experiencesthat dozens of climbers
have experienced overthe years are not just coincidences.
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There are too many
signal that here lies a mystery.
Most likely,a man is not yet ready to understand.
Sergei is not the only oneto feel the wrath of Mount Kailash
for daring to climb her.
Other hikers have reportedsimilar feelings of illness,
unexplained rainstorms and blizzards.
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Some climbers have even reported thatwhile they were hiking up the mountain,
they all of a sudden figure outthat they're hiking down the mountain
like the mountain had turned around right
under their feetwithout them even knowing it it.
Now to be fair,there is a story of one person making it
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to the top of Mount Kailash, an 11thcentury Buddhist monk named Milarepa.
The legend says that Milarepais confronted by Naro Bonchung,
a follower of the Bon religion, which,if you remember, is
one of the four religionsthat hold Mount Kailash sacred.
So here is Milarepa and Naro Bonchung,
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both wanting to provethat their religion is the best religion.
So they decide to raceto the summit of Mount Kailash.
The winner would prove the superiorityof their spiritual practice.
Naro Bonchung uses his magical drumto ascend the mountain,
while Milarepa relies on his profoundmeditative powers.
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As Naro Bonchung nearsthe summit, Milarepa pauses,
then swiftly soars to the topusing the power of his meditation.
To mark his victoryand respect the sacredness of Kailash,
Milarepa does not step foot on the summit.
Instead, he leaves a handprint in the rock
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as a sign of his presenceand ultimate victory.
Milarepa’s actions symbolize humilityand reverence for the sacred, teaching
that Mount Kailashis not a place for human domination
but for spiritual enlightenment.
So today, instead of trying to climbthe mountain, pilgrims
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come from all over the world to embark onwhat is called the Kailash Kora,
a 32 mile hike all the wayaround the base of the mountain.
It is said that one trip around dissolvesa lifetime of sins,
108 trips around,
secures the path to Nirvana.
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Now, what would this video bewithout at least mentioning the one
the only “Welcome to the Himalayas.”That’s right!
Our good friend Yeti, also knownas the Abominable Snowman In 1951,
about 375 miles southwest down the roadfrom Mount Kailash,
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a mountaineer by the name of Eric Shiptonwould snap a photograph
that would go downinto the annals of Bigfoot history.
The photograph is a beautifully crisp,clear photo
of a roughly 13 inch footprintin the snows of the Himalayas.
Eric wasn't thereto find evidence of Yeti.
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He and his mates were there to finda route to the top of Everest from Nepal.
In fact, the things they learned fromthis expedition helped Edmund Hillary
and Tenzing Norgaymake the first successful recorded
ascent of Mount Everesttwo years later in 1953.
But motivations aside, therethey were staring down
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at this huge, weird human looking print.
So they took pictures.
Pictures that are still the subjectof heated debate today.
Are they real?
I don't know.
I was 100% in until I saw this picture.
But before I show it, I feelI must give an obligatory, gnarly warning
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because there is no other wayto describe these feet
as anything but gnarly.
This is a picture of the feetof a Nepalese highlander
with a foot abnormalitythat makes all his toes go wonky.
Now if you look at the Shipton pictureagain, looks a little different, right?
And I hear you barking, Carol Ann!
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Someone would have to be barefootto make that track. Yup.
And guess what?
People living in cold conditionscan develop something called cold induced
vasodilation where the blood vesselsin the arms and legs and hands
and feet dilate in cycleswhen exposed to the cold.
So they open up for a while,letting warm blood reach those parts,
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then constrict back down for a while,then open back up again.
So now that I know about that,I'm not so sure about the footprint.
The prevailing, not Bigfoot theoryis that it's a regular print
that has been enlargedby melting from the sun.
Except being from Minnesota,I can tell you
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what happens to footprintsas they melt in the sun.
That ain't it.
Melting footprints don't get biggeruniformly, like the one in this picture.
They start melting around the top edges,especially early on,
whatever edge the sun is hitting it.
So it looks like it's spreading out.
But this print looks crisp.
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I don't think that's meltinggoing on there.
And there are certainly more picturesof unknown things
captured in the regionand plenty of stories to go with them.
From Pliny the Elder, a Roman authorwho wrote about a creature similar
to a yeti seen in India around 300 BC.
This account is among the earliestrecorded mentions of such a creature.
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To the 1960s in Nepal,when Sonam Hisha Sherpa
encountered a yeti while tending to heryaks in the mountains.
An eight-foot-tall creature attacked her,
hurling her to the groundand killing two of her yaks.
Edmund Hillary himself saw trackswhile his compadre, Tenzing Norgay,
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actually saw a tall, hairycreature walking upright in 1954.
And now that the debunking doorhas been opened just a little bit,
let's just throw it open
and take a look at some of the otherthings we've talked about so far.
Going all the way back to the beginningwith the mountain itself.
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First of all, the idea that it is 6,666kmfrom both Stonehenge
and the North Pole is not really accurate.
It’s actually 6,934km from Stonehenge
and 6,562 to the North Pole
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and 13,443 to the South Pole
instead of the 13,332that it's supposed to be.
They're close. I’ll give ‘em that.
But the precision of the claim, it'sjust not there.
Now, let's talk about the ideathat this is a manmade
pyramidbecause of the perfectly aligned sides.
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Well, I got to say,if this was a pyramid built by men,
they certainly sent the B teamfor this one. Yes.
The sides roughly coordinatewith the four cardinal directions.
But when you see it from the top,you can see that it's far from being even
close to resembling any of the othermanmade pyramids we talk about today.
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We also talked about how the south facegets more snow
than the north face, which is the oppositeof what it should be.
Well,turns out that the Indian monsoon clouds
had this directionevery year with warm, moist air.
When those wet clouds hit the south face,they get forced upward,
condensing the moisture in the colder air,and dump their snow
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on the south face beforethey can make their way over the top.
So basically, many of you haveheard of lake effect snow.
Well, this is monsoon effect snow.
Okay.
Let's talk about airplanes not being ableto fly over Kailash is airspace.
First of all,that airspace is not restricted airspace.
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The planes just choose not to fly there
And there certainly could besomething funky going on with compasses.
But the real reason airplanes don't fly
there is because the ground is sittingtoo high.
The Himalayan region is nicknamedthe roof of the world.
That's because if you were to shave offall of the mountains,
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the ground at the bottomis still sitting at a staggering
roughly 12,000square feet above sea level.
So if an airplane cabin loses pressure
and the oxygen maskscome down from the ceiling.
Pilots have about 15 to 20 minutesto get that plane down
to under 10,000 feet before that oxygenruns out.
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Well, if you're flying over the areawhere Kailash is located
or anywhere in the Himalayan, transHimalayan range, your options for finding
a safe place to land that planein the next 15 minutes are pretty limited.
So pilotsdo the same thing and just go around.
Okay.
Let's go back to the mountain itself,the swastika.
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I tried as hard as I could,but I don't even see it.
Maybe it's easierto see at different times of the day,
but in my humble opinion,that one is really a stretch.
The face of Shiva. Okay.
I can see a face there.
To me, it's an obvious case of pareidolia.
But hey, you, do you.
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At leastthere's something to see on this one.
As far as the only symbol on the top.
Well, again, Pareidolia.
But this one is so coollooking that I prefer to think of it
as a happy accident.
One thing scientistshave not been able to account
for is the fact that MountKailash is made of different
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than all of its neighbors.
Now, the really bad newsthat I can't find anything
to substantiate the claims made aboutthe research expeditions.
However, that could bejust because I didn't have
the right spelling of the namesor because Google
seems to be only returning search resultsthat are politically correct.
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I don't know.
Some of the actual storiesare pretty widely circulated
by people who are realwith Wikipedia pages and everything.
But some of them, like the two teamsthat experienced rapid aging,
are widely circulatedbut have nothing to back them up.
So those kind ofhave to fall into the legend category.
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But since we have nothing to loseat this point,
let's take a closerlook at the rapid aging phenomenon.
According to Einstein's
theory of relativity,time is not the same everywhere you go.
according to him, the closeryou are to Earth, the slower time moves
And, powerful gravitational and energyfields
can cause distortions in the flow of time.
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Ok, if we take that at face value,I still doubt that the height
the climbers were at would be high enoughto age them decades in a span of hours.
However,if you add in quantum electrodynamics
and the magnetic monopole theory,
people way smarter than mesay these theories show
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how magnetism can disrupt time itself.
I'm not even going to pretendto know how that works.
But if that 2012, researchconducted by Dr.
Sergei Kuchokov and the 2016 researchconducted by Professor Zhahn Le Bai
that found thatthe mountain has an unusually high but
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random magnetic field, is real,maybe those climbing teams
just hit the mountainon a bad magnetic day.
So where does all of this informationleave us?
Is the magic of Mt.
Kailash real or merely legendary?
Well, I have to say thatas far as evidence goes,
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there's not really much to go on.
I'm not one of those peoplewho buy into mathematical equations
written down on paperas proof of something actually existing.
And that's about all we have,other than a collection
of disparate researchand anecdotal stories.
However, I did see a testimonial froma person who traveled to the mountain,
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not even on a true pilgrimage,but more of a sightseeing adventure.
And he said the moment he stepped foot
off that bus and looked at that mountain,
his spiritual existence was changedat its very core.
So who knows?
Maybe that big, beautiful
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black and white rock is magical.
And if you take the journey to see it,it might just rock your world to.
Special thanks to granvillegraves6522,
bronsonbrown8300, and Djjoeyd1167for suggesting this topic.
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and I get to go diving into new rabbitholes
and learning all kinds of new things.
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