Evict the Narc Within: Breaking Free from Internalized Shame with Emma Lyons

In this powerful episode of The Mindful Living, host Sana sits down with Emma Lyons, trauma-informed healer and creator of The Trauma Matrix, to decode the “inner narcissist”—the shaming voice many of us mistake for self-discipline or self-improvement. We explore how this internal critic often operates like a covert narcissist, subtly eroding our confidence and fueling cycles of perfectionism, burnout, and shame. Emma shares her signature “BREAK” framework that helps people dismantle this voice, reclaim their power, and thrive authentically. Whether you're stuck in overthinking, people-pleasing, or feel imprisoned by internal shame, this episode invites you to break the trance and come back home to your true self. This is not just a conversation—it’s a call for radical self-liberation.

About the Guest – Emma Lyons: Emma Lyons is a trauma-informed healer and founder of The Trauma Matrix. Known for her bold take on internalized shame, Emma empowers women to dismantle the inner narcissist—the toxic shame voice disguised as self-discipline. She offers a transformative lens on trauma, emotional patterns, and healing beyond traditional therapy, helping clients evict shame and live with radical freedom.

Key Takeaways:

• Emma introduces the concept of the “inner narcissist”—a shame-driven inner voice that mimics the traits of covert narcissism rather than being a wounded inner child.

• Common therapy suggests empathizing with this voice, but Emma warns it often fuels self-destruction rather than healing.

• She shares her BREAK framework:

  • B: Break the trance of shame

  • R: Refuse to engage using the DEEP method (Don’t Defend, Engage, Explain, or Personalize)

  • E: Expose the lie

  • A: Anchor in your body to feel safe

  • K: Kick it out—physically and energetically

• Emma emphasizes that shame is a cultural tool used to suppress individuality and risk-taking. It’s often passed down unconsciously through family dynamics and social conditioning.

• The path to healing? Refuse to feed the inner narcissist, stop explaining yourself, and thrive on your own terms.

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