November 29, 2020 • 10 mins
The extended, podcast-only version of the CBS Sports play-by-play announcer Spero Dedes interview with J.P. Shadrick on the Publix Tailgate Show.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Gonna talk to you again, Spirol. Here we are in
week twelve. Somehow, I know, God, it's it's flown by.
Good to be with you, JP. Happy Thanksgiving to you
and UH and to all your listeners as well. Same
to you, and I appreciate your time. Where have you
been the last few weeks since we spoke? Oh? Man,
got these weeks all blend together? Uh? We were Jacksonville
a couple of weeks ago. We got We've had you
(00:21):
guys a ton um, which is always a pleasure to
come to, uh, to Florida, and especially as we get
into the winter months. But you know, we've bounced around,
We've done a ton of Cincinnati. We have the the
unfortunate experience of of doing the Cincinnati game last week
and which, of course Joe Burrow went down with that
just awful injury and it was just such a tragic
way for his season to end. And uh, you know,
(00:44):
tough to be Bengals fan. You you've been searching for
a quarterback for years and years and you finally have
your stud and it's all gone good from that position standpoint,
and then he goes down. So just a brutal sport
unforgiving sport, as you know, but um, you know, it's
just it's just the NFL. You know, some weeks you
get eight games, other weeks you you have to see
something like that. And it's what makes this game so
(01:05):
emotional and and exciting at times and exasperating and all
of the above. So it's been a great year. It's
been a wild year, of course, unlike any other, unprecedented
in so many ways. And we're just happy to be here.
And man, you know, like you and like everyone around
the league, we're just hoping that we can get through
it and get you know, get to the super Bowl
and everything kind of goes off. I was gonna say,
without a hitch, but just get to the finish line.
(01:26):
Let's just get to the end of the season and
then figure out the playoffs from there. You mentioned the
Cincinnati quarterback issue. Of course, they're and and and horrible
to see. Let's transition to the Jaguars quarterback situation now. Well,
Jake Luten through four interceptions last week and just didn't
seem to have it together. It's a tough defense of
the fits for Steelers, of course, but head coach Jack
(01:47):
Moone this week decided to make a change and Mike glennon,
we'll get us first start since twenty seventeen Week four
with the Bears against the Packers that year. It's been
a little while, but that's the state of affairs. You're
in Jacksonville now with Gardner still trying to throw and
figure out the thumb issue. They're trying to give Jake
Luton a little time away. What can we expect from
(02:08):
Mike glenn And I think is the big question, and
it might be a reason why he hasn't started in
a few years. It feels like, yeah, you know, I
think you're getting to the point now in his season
when you're Doug Morone for a team, obviously that is
just kind of playing out the string where you have
to start to make these tough decisions. And I guess
part of me was surprised that that he would make
(02:29):
this change now. Um, but you know, look, this is
this is why being a head coach is so difficult,
and and Doug has had to deal with so many injuries. Um,
you know, obviously with the pandemic like every other team.
Now he's got some assistant coaches he's gonna be without.
This is it's a really tough spot for him. And
and Doug knows his team, and he knows the pulse
(02:49):
of his team better than anyone, and he feels like
it's a good time to allow Jake Lewton to maybe
step back and evaluate what he's seen, what he's experienced
these last three weeks, uh, and and go from there.
And look, you know, Mike Glennon deserves this chance. He's
done everything the coaching staff has asked him to do.
I think there's a reason why he has been where
(03:10):
he's been, and he hasn't had a frontline job the
last couple of years. And and this is his chance
to maybe catch you on, not just with this team,
but but one of the other teams around the league.
And and he's got to perform now. Um, it's difficult
to do that when you've got injuries in front of
you and you're playing with a very young supporting cast,
as we know is the case with this Jacksonville team.
(03:31):
And and we'll see what the future has in store
for him and also for Jake Lewton. You know, at
my partner and I, Adam Arceiletta, were in Jacksonville for
the Houston game for Jake's first game, and you know,
we watched him have that very early success, you know,
the long touchdown pass I think on the second or
third attempt, and we kind of looked at each other
and said, man, you know, maybe there's something with this kid,
(03:52):
and of course lo and behold it. It kind of
went south on him there quickly. But um, you know,
I don't think this spells the end by any stretch
for Jake. I think there's a lot of good air.
You know, he's got the great frame, and he looks
like a legit quarterback prospect, and maybe this is a
chance for him to catch his breath and and to
learn some things and to move that step forward. But
you know, that'll be that'll remain to be seen here
(04:12):
in the next couple of weeks, in the next couple
of years. I think it's obvious. The big picture here
is they're going quarterback earlier in the draft, no matter
who's making the decision. I think that has been determined
over the last few weeks around here that you know,
he just can't put a franchise on these guys shoulders,
at least right now. So that's for an offseason conversation.
Sparreroudidas with a CBS Sports. Now on offense, we stay
(04:35):
with a bright spot. We'll get to all the COVID
issues coming up on defense. But James Robinson has been
fantastic obviously continues to build. He's over a thousand scrimmage
yards this year. You know, he has about a hundred
and seventy two rush attempts this year, only eleven of
those are for negative yardage Bureau. This guy always gets forward,
he always falls ahead, he's finding a crease. He's hard
(04:57):
to hit. And for an undrafted guy to have that
kind of skill set and vision, I don't think I've
seen that in a long time. And it's really if
Now I know they're one at nine, but if they
didn't have James Robinson, where would this offense be. Yeah,
it's such a great story. And and I think when
you really examine James Robinson and his entire football career
(05:19):
high school, uh, collegiately at Illinois State, he he has
had success and he's excelled really at every level. So
you know, I think the people that know James Robinson
the best, his family is certainly his his ex teammates,
his coaches at the high school level, and and brocks
back in that entire staff at Illinois State. I don't
think they're really surprised deep down, you know, we we
(05:40):
had a chance, We had a couple of chances now
to speak with him via zoom. And he's just a
really diligent, hard working kid who I think has had
to earn every opportunity he's gotten, you know, lightly recruited
out of high school. I think Iowa was the only
really major collegiate a him that took a look at him,
(06:01):
and it was very light interest before they kind of
backed away for whatever reasons, and obviously undrafted into the NFL,
he had to earn his way onto a roster spot.
And sometimes those guys are the hungriest prospects that you
find and you get, you know, sometimes the high picks
who who flame out quickly. UM and And I don't
(06:22):
think there's anything about this kid that tells us that
that's going to be the case. And then you start
to break down his numbers JP, it's just it's it's
amazing what he's been able to do UM on really
limited opportunities. You know, behind an offensive line that's had
the issues up front, they don't have a ton around
UM around the running back position is just a lot
(06:42):
of youth on this team, So so defense is now
knowing the success that he's had, they're able to to
key on him a little bit more. But as you said,
he's just able to churn out that yardage even on
players that are breaking down. He always seems to fall forward,
like you said, And there's just very little about this
kid not to like. And and I think he's gonna
be around for a long time. I think he's he's
(07:02):
a building block for this franchise that's really searching right
now for who they're gonna try to build this offense
around over the next couple of years. Spiro Detas with
a CBS Sports has the call of the Browns Jaguars
game today. Let's flip it to the defense. There were
issues anyway, of course, because they haven't been playing well
a lot of the year. There's been a couple of
bright spots. Miles Jack has some moments this year, but
(07:25):
now they're injury issues. Josh Allen's done for an extended period.
It feels like no ligament damage in the knee. That's
the good news. A bunch of the secondary guys are down.
Sydney Jones. C. J. Henderson is on I R. You're
digging deep down the well to get some cornerbacks on
the field this week and then throw on top of
(07:46):
all that Spireau. But the coaching staff all of a
sudden has COVID nineteen issues three defensive coaches earlier in
the week. We're not allowed to go to the practice
field and they won't be allowed at the game today.
That's a lot of games for a defense that was
struggling already, and they've got the monumental task of trying
to slow down this Browns running game today and that's
(08:08):
a lot to ask. With everything that's happened, it's unreal.
And you know, I'm a big Doug Marone fan. I
know he's he's taking his lumps from the media, and
you know, some of it rightfully. So when you don't
win in this league, you're gonna you're gonna, you know,
be the butt of of a lot of criticism. But
we've we've had a chance to meet with him a ton.
We we've done so many Jaguars games over the years,
(08:30):
so you know, we've we've become big fans of his.
And if you're Doug Moron, you just have to throw
your hands up at this point it say, you know
what else could go wrong? Right? I mean, obviously it's
a pandemic, and every team is having to deal with
with COVID cases and and losing coaches. H just last
week we had the Bengals and their defensive coordinator lu
(08:50):
and A Rumo was down two or three assistants, so
he's having to coach the dbs on the sideline in
between defensive series. Everyone's having to adjust. But it just
seemed is like Jacksonville and this defense has, you know,
has just been behind the eight ball right from the snap.
And and I think you know, every team has been
able to deal with the challenges and logistical issues with
(09:13):
the pandemic differently based on how their teams are built.
And I think we all knew because of this Jacksonville
team being so young and inexperienced, they were gonna struggle
without having the traditional offseason, you know, no t O
t A is, no rookie camps, no preseason games, really
the time where young rookie, first, second, and even third
(09:36):
year players really get acclimated. And it's it's affected them,
maybe more than some of the other more veteran teams
around the league, and now I think they're really going
to struggle here down the stretch. You know, you're having
to play guys that have gotten very little reps, very
little snaps in games, and and now suddenly you're without
your defensive coordinator and some of your leading defensive assistance.
(09:58):
It's gonna be a very very challenging day and the
next couple of weeks as they try to close the
season and and desperately try to build on something positively.
Be careful when you ask what else could go wrong?
You just might find out, and I think the Jaguars
have done that this year. I appreciate your time. I
have a great call today and we'll talk to you
(10:18):
again down the line here soon. Thanks JP, I appreciate it.
Gonna talk to you again, Spirol. Here we are in
week twelve. Somehow, I know, God, it's it's flown by.
Good to be with you, JP. Happy Thanksgiving to you
and UH and to all your listeners as well. Same
to you, and I appreciate your time. Where have you
been the last few weeks since we spoke? Oh? Man,
got these weeks all blend together? Uh? We were Jacksonville
a couple of weeks ago. We got We've had you
(00:21):
guys a ton um, which is always a pleasure to
come to, uh, to Florida, and especially as we get
into the winter months. But you know, we've bounced around,
We've done a ton of Cincinnati. We have the the
unfortunate experience of of doing the Cincinnati game last week
and which, of course Joe Burrow went down with that
just awful injury and it was just such a tragic
way for his season to end. And uh, you know,
(00:44):
tough to be Bengals fan. You you've been searching for
a quarterback for years and years and you finally have
your stud and it's all gone good from that position standpoint,
and then he goes down. So just a brutal sport
unforgiving sport, as you know, but um, you know, it's
just it's just the NFL. You know, some weeks you
get eight games, other weeks you you have to see
something like that. And it's what makes this game so
(01:05):
emotional and and exciting at times and exasperating and all
of the above. So it's been a great year. It's
been a wild year, of course, unlike any other, unprecedented
in so many ways. And we're just happy to be here.
And man, you know, like you and like everyone around
the league, we're just hoping that we can get through
it and get you know, get to the super Bowl
and everything kind of goes off. I was gonna say,
without a hitch, but just get to the finish line.
(01:26):
Let's just get to the end of the season and
then figure out the playoffs from there. You mentioned the
Cincinnati quarterback issue. Of course, they're and and and horrible
to see. Let's transition to the Jaguars quarterback situation now. Well,
Jake Luten through four interceptions last week and just didn't
seem to have it together. It's a tough defense of
the fits for Steelers, of course, but head coach Jack
(01:47):
Moone this week decided to make a change and Mike glennon,
we'll get us first start since twenty seventeen Week four
with the Bears against the Packers that year. It's been
a little while, but that's the state of affairs. You're
in Jacksonville now with Gardner still trying to throw and
figure out the thumb issue. They're trying to give Jake
Luton a little time away. What can we expect from
(02:08):
Mike glenn And I think is the big question, and
it might be a reason why he hasn't started in
a few years. It feels like, yeah, you know, I
think you're getting to the point now in his season
when you're Doug Morone for a team, obviously that is
just kind of playing out the string where you have
to start to make these tough decisions. And I guess
part of me was surprised that that he would make
(02:29):
this change now. Um, but you know, look, this is
this is why being a head coach is so difficult,
and and Doug has had to deal with so many injuries. Um,
you know, obviously with the pandemic like every other team.
Now he's got some assistant coaches he's gonna be without.
This is it's a really tough spot for him. And
and Doug knows his team, and he knows the pulse
(02:49):
of his team better than anyone, and he feels like
it's a good time to allow Jake Lewton to maybe
step back and evaluate what he's seen, what he's experienced
these last three weeks, uh, and and go from there.
And look, you know, Mike Glennon deserves this chance. He's
done everything the coaching staff has asked him to do.
I think there's a reason why he has been where
(03:10):
he's been, and he hasn't had a frontline job the
last couple of years. And and this is his chance
to maybe catch you on, not just with this team,
but but one of the other teams around the league.
And and he's got to perform now. Um, it's difficult
to do that when you've got injuries in front of
you and you're playing with a very young supporting cast,
as we know is the case with this Jacksonville team.
(03:31):
And and we'll see what the future has in store
for him and also for Jake Lewton. You know, at
my partner and I, Adam Arceiletta, were in Jacksonville for
the Houston game for Jake's first game, and you know,
we watched him have that very early success, you know,
the long touchdown pass I think on the second or
third attempt, and we kind of looked at each other
and said, man, you know, maybe there's something with this kid,
(03:52):
and of course lo and behold it. It kind of
went south on him there quickly. But um, you know,
I don't think this spells the end by any stretch
for Jake. I think there's a lot of good air.
You know, he's got the great frame, and he looks
like a legit quarterback prospect, and maybe this is a
chance for him to catch his breath and and to
learn some things and to move that step forward. But
you know, that'll be that'll remain to be seen here
(04:12):
in the next couple of weeks, in the next couple
of years. I think it's obvious. The big picture here
is they're going quarterback earlier in the draft, no matter
who's making the decision. I think that has been determined
over the last few weeks around here that you know,
he just can't put a franchise on these guys shoulders,
at least right now. So that's for an offseason conversation.
Sparreroudidas with a CBS Sports. Now on offense, we stay
(04:35):
with a bright spot. We'll get to all the COVID
issues coming up on defense. But James Robinson has been
fantastic obviously continues to build. He's over a thousand scrimmage
yards this year. You know, he has about a hundred
and seventy two rush attempts this year, only eleven of
those are for negative yardage Bureau. This guy always gets forward,
he always falls ahead, he's finding a crease. He's hard
(04:57):
to hit. And for an undrafted guy to have that
kind of skill set and vision, I don't think I've
seen that in a long time. And it's really if
Now I know they're one at nine, but if they
didn't have James Robinson, where would this offense be. Yeah,
it's such a great story. And and I think when
you really examine James Robinson and his entire football career
(05:19):
high school, uh, collegiately at Illinois State, he he has
had success and he's excelled really at every level. So
you know, I think the people that know James Robinson
the best, his family is certainly his his ex teammates,
his coaches at the high school level, and and brocks
back in that entire staff at Illinois State. I don't
think they're really surprised deep down, you know, we we
(05:40):
had a chance, We had a couple of chances now
to speak with him via zoom. And he's just a
really diligent, hard working kid who I think has had
to earn every opportunity he's gotten, you know, lightly recruited
out of high school. I think Iowa was the only
really major collegiate a him that took a look at him,
(06:01):
and it was very light interest before they kind of
backed away for whatever reasons, and obviously undrafted into the NFL,
he had to earn his way onto a roster spot.
And sometimes those guys are the hungriest prospects that you
find and you get, you know, sometimes the high picks
who who flame out quickly. UM and And I don't
(06:22):
think there's anything about this kid that tells us that
that's going to be the case. And then you start
to break down his numbers JP, it's just it's it's
amazing what he's been able to do UM on really
limited opportunities. You know, behind an offensive line that's had
the issues up front, they don't have a ton around
UM around the running back position is just a lot
(06:42):
of youth on this team, So so defense is now
knowing the success that he's had, they're able to to
key on him a little bit more. But as you said,
he's just able to churn out that yardage even on
players that are breaking down. He always seems to fall forward,
like you said, And there's just very little about this
kid not to like. And and I think he's gonna
be around for a long time. I think he's he's
(07:02):
a building block for this franchise that's really searching right
now for who they're gonna try to build this offense
around over the next couple of years. Spiro Detas with
a CBS Sports has the call of the Browns Jaguars
game today. Let's flip it to the defense. There were
issues anyway, of course, because they haven't been playing well
a lot of the year. There's been a couple of
bright spots. Miles Jack has some moments this year, but
(07:25):
now they're injury issues. Josh Allen's done for an extended period.
It feels like no ligament damage in the knee. That's
the good news. A bunch of the secondary guys are down.
Sydney Jones. C. J. Henderson is on I R. You're
digging deep down the well to get some cornerbacks on
the field this week and then throw on top of
(07:46):
all that Spireau. But the coaching staff all of a
sudden has COVID nineteen issues three defensive coaches earlier in
the week. We're not allowed to go to the practice
field and they won't be allowed at the game today.
That's a lot of games for a defense that was
struggling already, and they've got the monumental task of trying
to slow down this Browns running game today and that's
(08:08):
a lot to ask. With everything that's happened, it's unreal.
And you know, I'm a big Doug Marone fan. I
know he's he's taking his lumps from the media, and
you know, some of it rightfully. So when you don't
win in this league, you're gonna you're gonna, you know,
be the butt of of a lot of criticism. But
we've we've had a chance to meet with him a ton.
We we've done so many Jaguars games over the years,
(08:30):
so you know, we've we've become big fans of his.
And if you're Doug Moron, you just have to throw
your hands up at this point it say, you know
what else could go wrong? Right? I mean, obviously it's
a pandemic, and every team is having to deal with
with COVID cases and and losing coaches. H just last
week we had the Bengals and their defensive coordinator lu
(08:50):
and A Rumo was down two or three assistants, so
he's having to coach the dbs on the sideline in
between defensive series. Everyone's having to adjust. But it just
seemed is like Jacksonville and this defense has, you know,
has just been behind the eight ball right from the snap.
And and I think you know, every team has been
able to deal with the challenges and logistical issues with
(09:13):
the pandemic differently based on how their teams are built.
And I think we all knew because of this Jacksonville
team being so young and inexperienced, they were gonna struggle
without having the traditional offseason, you know, no t O
t A is, no rookie camps, no preseason games, really
the time where young rookie, first, second, and even third
(09:36):
year players really get acclimated. And it's it's affected them,
maybe more than some of the other more veteran teams
around the league, and now I think they're really going
to struggle here down the stretch. You know, you're having
to play guys that have gotten very little reps, very
little snaps in games, and and now suddenly you're without
your defensive coordinator and some of your leading defensive assistance.
(09:58):
It's gonna be a very very challenging day and the
next couple of weeks as they try to close the
season and and desperately try to build on something positively.
Be careful when you ask what else could go wrong?
You just might find out, and I think the Jaguars
have done that this year. I appreciate your time. I
have a great call today and we'll talk to you
(10:18):
again down the line here soon. Thanks JP, I appreciate it.
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