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Speaker 1 (00:03):
At least.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on
your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and
Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
And welcome back to our number two of the Drive
here on the Steelers Audio Network. I'm Dale Lolly. He
is the Matt Williamson except no imitations. And Matt, it
is time to do a little mock draft here and
we're using the Pro Football Focus mock draft here today.
And I want to have one caveat here today.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Let's do something a little different.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We're not moving out of the first round. We're not.
We're not we're not trading down in the first round.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
We're picking it to pot at twenty one, no matter what. Okay,
we got a couple of tweets about that over the
last couple of days. Yeah, why I just do one
where you stick and pick at twenty one.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Now, that doesn't mean we can't trade up into the
second round, perhaps trading some future picks. It doesn't mean
we can't move around in later that's spots.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
So we're we're picking somebody.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Picking somebody at twenty one because we kind of want
to do this typically that's what want typically that's what
the Steelers do.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Of course, yeah, I mean just say, oh, we'll just
trade out. You don't get five offers like you and.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
And realistically we've right now, we've only got one and
I'm not interested. We've got three guys and the one,
the one that's offered is at twenty five. And really
there are just looking at it here the players that
would be in consideration for the Steelers. At this point,
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you've got Omari and Hampton, Derek Harmon and Shodoor Sanders.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
The Grant and Nolan are gone.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Granton Nolan are gone.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I don't know I would trade back now.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I'm not trading back taking hard. I think you stick
and you pick Harmon. You know. In fact, to me,
it comes down to Hampton or Harmon versus Hampton. I
think I don't think. I don't think Sanders is in consideration.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I don't either. I think we differ on this a
little that I think Hampton the fine prospect, but compared
to the three d tackles, I think there's a big gap.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I think there's a big I think those other guys
and somebody asked that on the message board, would wouldn't
you be better off taking Hampton and then you can
just fill your needs on defensive line later in the draft.
I'm like, I'm looking for my potential long term replacement
for Cam Hayward, his.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Labs always I went to tow It, I went the
Hayward even like chance of find that in the third.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Round, I can get a nose tackle later in a draft.
And everybody knows my ty Robinson love but he's but
he's not. He's not. He's not the next stuff on
Twit or Cam Hayward. No, No, he's a good player. Yeah, Yeah,
like they're not. Nolan might be. Yeah, those guys aren't changing,
you know, immediate starters. Potentially, they're gonna be rotational players
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in the early inner career. Maybe they become starters down Yeah,
but they're not.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
That getting one of those three to me is a
lot better start than Hampton. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
So I'm gonna go ahead and draft Harmon here. Yeah,
which we've been pretty consistent with over the last oh
I don't know, eight weeks that we're taking the defensive
tackle there, and Harmon has kind of been the guy
here that's centered in on.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Now, all right, if they take Harmon at twenty one,
like that's exactly how it goes.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And I screwed that up again. I didn't hit seven rounds.
But okay, we'll go back.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
We can restart it.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I can restart it, and we're gonna do the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
get the same settings here.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Assuming he's available.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I imagine he will be. Yeah, Kenneth Grant went one
pick ahead of ours, so that just makes it even
more so.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Denver's a sneaky spot for a detackle too.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
They might say I'm gonna wait in round two for
Henderson or Judkins.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
All right, we are now into round two. Do we
ended up with Harmon? We ended up with Harmon. The
Giants are on the clock at thirty four. I'm gonna
hit resume here. We'll see where it goes. I don't
think any of the other running backs nobody went.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I mean, I'm not interested in treating a first round
pick to get into the early no second.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
No, okay, Now we're down to forty four and the
running back o'mari and Hampton went thirty four actually to
the Giants, which would make some sense. Absolutely then Colston, Loveland, Darius, Alexander, Jack,
Becky Tullik, Williams, Nick Emuwari, Brayden Swinson, the edge rusher
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out of LSU. It's a little early for.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Him, but these are ones that went.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, Xavier Wats, a safety had a Notre Dame, Trey
Amos the cornerback out of Mississippi, and Maxwell Harriston at
forty three cornerback out of Kentucky. So the running backs
are largely still untouched.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, I'm not super excited about trading premium future picks
for a running back.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
All right, I'm gonna let Bill Roe is also still
say I.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Would do it for a quarterback. Yeah, but not a
running back. All right.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Hit, Okay, we're now within We're down to pick fifty four,
and Jayden Higgins went from Iowa state wide receiver J. T.
Twomloa the edgress right of Ohio State. Landon Jackson the
edgdresser from Arkansas, Chavon Revel cornerback from East Carolina. TJ.
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Sanders defensive lineman from South Carolina, Omar Norman Lott defensive
lineman from Tennessee. A Zeri A. Thomas cornerback from Florida State.
Prince Au edg rusher from Mississippi. Cam Scatabow went at
fifty two, running back from Arizona. Donovan Jackson went at
fifty three.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I don't see a massive need unless you really want
to get crazy on Milroe or shopping.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
We're about thirty, we're about thirty picks away.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, well you suggested the trade up for.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Back quarterback or yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I'm redundant with it, but I would love their first
two picks to be one of those three D tackles
in Milroe. Yeah, and the rest of stuff I can
fill in.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
My question would be none of the teams. So cam
Ward went one. Still, cam word the Dark I believe
let's see here, Sanders has gone to the Browns, the
Giants haven't taken a quarterback, the Saints haven't taken a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
The teams that Dart's still there. Yeah, okay, I mean
if Dark art the third round, I'd be interested. Yea,
that's what I think he is.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I'm going to resume. Yeah, that's fine. All right, we're
within eighteen picks. Now, we're the top of the third round,
and your guy is still there, as are Caleb Johnson.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Went certainly happy with that in the third Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Okay, so do we think the Giants take a quarterback here.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, but they don't take three of them.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
They don't take true enough. All right, so you want
to let it run, all right? Now we are within
ten picks. So they did take Jackson Darket's start at
sixty five, which that's where he belongs, that's where he.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Should go with that. That's great, And we don't say
a lot of great things about Dart. You take him there.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Good, here's the problem. Yeah, Traveon Henderson then went at
sixty six to the Chiefs, Dylan Samson went at sixty
eight to the Raiders, and Quinn Shawn Judkins went at
sixty nine to the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Okay, there's two two quarterbacks still out there. Were picking
ten picks, right, yeah, what are the running backs out there?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Well, you're looking at guys that didn't like the Neil
Hart into this second tier of right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, so that's what we're gonna do. That's the way.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, I'm not I don't now, I don't want to
trade right.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Right, there's all pretty similar Martinez or you know.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, all right, I'm gonna let it run. Okay, we
are up. Well, guess what, Jaylen Miller went to the Colts,
not the craziest thing I ever heard that late Shuck
still there, Schuck is still there. At running back, you're
looking now at R J. Harvey, Damian Martinez, DJ Gidden's
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Devin Neil.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I like all those guys all would be fine.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
At what else will we look at their coin cornerback
you're looking at Dorian Strong, Jacob Parrish.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I don't love that, not for my second pick.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
No defensive line. You're looking at Vernon Broughton. He would
be a little redundant. Jamary Calbwell, I'm interested. I think
Jamary Caldwell might go a little bit earlier.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I think there's some buzz on him right now too.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, because he can actually rush the passer.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
He's very active.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And if you take you go Calbwell and Harmon, Harmon
the Oregon D line. Yeah. Now we do have some
trade back offers. The Broncos are on the phone. They've
got pick eighty five. This is eighty three, this is
eighty three. So we're not going to get a premium
pick here, but we're going to get the pick back
that we've.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I'll take the extra pick, which could end to be
in the reading move.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Back to spots. I'm not happy with anybody that's in
that Are they coming up to get shocked? I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I doubt it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So if they're going to give us eighty five, I'm
gonna one.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Maybe we can throw in a seven and get a
five or something.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Well, they got another pick coming at one twenty two.
If I give them pick one eighty five, can I
get up to one eighty two? Sixty five percent chance.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
That that would be joy moving back two spots to move.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Back to spots, I would give up eighty three and
one eighty five for eighty five and one twenty two.
I would do that. They accepted it, okay, all right?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Who they won?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I'm just curious they came up to get Jalen Royals,
which would make them sense they could use Yeah, they
could use them, all right. Andrew mccooba also went, So,
now we're making we're faced with the same question here
do we take at eighty five.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I'm cool with Caldwell. I like the backs. I would
definitely take shock. I think there's a big difference between
him and Howard roar Well.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Then the next question is what becomes now that we've
got eighty five, one twenty two, one twenty three can
we move one of the Let's say we move our
fourth rounder next year or a fifth runner next year,
because we're gonna have two of them, right, I got
no problem moving though, to change one twenty two to
move up to get two of those guys.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah. Now, I'm not sure the backs will fall that.
I mean there's four or five of the backs, right,
we could get three of those guys. My point right,
if we stay put took shock, then.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
We don't pick again. Running one twenty three is what
we have. If I can, If I can flip say
one twenty three and next year a fourth or a
fifth next year to move up to ninety.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I'm mentioned in that, I feel a lot better I can.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Then I feel good about taking shuck here, knowing that
I'm also.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Going to get come up for a noser running back.
Those are a running back without losing the other picking
the one twenty which will be the other position.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Right, Yeah, I'm cool with that, So let me take again.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I have no problem getting rid of a next year
fifth or something like that.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
The giants. The Giants have picked ninety nine. They're on
the phone right now. They want to move up here
to eighty five. I don't want to trade eighty five.
I don't want to I don't want to do that.
But I'm going to talk to the Rams have picked
ninety and they don't have many picks, okay, so I'm
going to talk to them. I'm going to say, hey, Rams,
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what if we give you one three and next year's
four to come up to ninety. And they're saying no,
So all right, we'll go on to the next one.
It's the Ravens. We're not going to trade with them.
The Seahawks. However, if we go, they're saying no to that.
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Will we offer a three next year for that? I
don't want to go. I don't want to do that.
I don't want to do that.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
There's not a prospect out there. I'm going I have
to have.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I can't believe if I offer them one, if I
offer the third next year, they're going to take it. Sure, sure,
But I'm if I'm offering a third next year, I
want to give them like one fifty six this year,
and they would do that. Did we already take shocked
or not? We have not yet. We haven't made a
pick yet. Okay, I'm just I'm just feeling out offers
here while we're on the phone deciding whether we take
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shock or not. So what they would do if we
give up next year's three and pick one fifty six
this year, we can get ninety two and probably something
else from them, And we could if I could flip,
if I can get there four next year.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
And that's fine. I mean, I don't mind giving up
a three with four coming back.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Right that has a sixty sixty five percent chance. So
we would get ninety two in the rams fourth round
pick next year, and we're giving up our third round pick,
so maybe we're going to have a compensatory.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Pick next year, right right, We'll still have a third.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
One fifty six in our third next year.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I'm cool with it that.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
They accepted it, all right, So now I think you
take the quarterback, do yeah, because you've effectively you got
other resources to deal with stuff. Yeah, all right, So
Tyler shuck it is okay. And now we're up at
one ninety earth our.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Future picks only a third turned into a four.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, okay, all right, the picks in between that one
we got shock or're Jalen Noel m hmm, Oladaijo jonas
I Vania Jared Wilson Center out of Georgia, Elijah Roberts
the edge rusher out of SMU.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
We already got that, and the Ravens stock R J. Harvey.
Would you consider nol I mean, I like the running
back conversation. He's there.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
They'd be wide receivers available next year. They're always available.
I think in this situation, grab Caldwell. I think you
take the nose tackle here. He's going to start for you.
Gonna play a lot one way or the other. Yeah,
I think he ate Jamari.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Colwall here, double down on Oregon D line.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
They can room together.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
They'll be buddies.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
So we get the quarterback. We get that, and we
still got picks one and twenty three. We'll get a
running back.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
We'll get a back. Yeah, I'm not worried about the back.
They'll get Martinez or well he just went to the Browns. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
So okay, Higgins, I'm gonna let it run here, all right.
So we're now up at one twenty two.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
The running got a little confusing for listeners. Right now
we have a nose a d n in a quarter.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Right now, we have Derek Harmon, Tyler Shuck, Jamari Caldwell Okay, cool,
that's what we got. We're up now at pick one
twenty two. Here's the problem though, the running backs available.
Jaden Blue, No, that's not what I'm after, Trevor atn No,
Jarquez Hunter maybe, maybe, Brichard Smith, No, he doesn't. All
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these small backs, Kalel Mullins, he's not good enough for that.
Cale mcgonagay, I think you don't force it. Baychhelle Touton
is there.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
But I would take Tooton over the rest of those guys.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Now, if I look at the other positions, just best available,
you're looking at Kyle Williams.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Oh I do that?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
We get the next pick coming to save On Jones,
R J. Mickens the safety at a Clemson. Isaac Tesla
the wide receiver out of Arkansas, Torery Hohrton, Jonash Sanker
the safety at of Virginia Gunner Helm. Is there an
offensive lineman there that you would.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Always consider a lineman?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
But Kyle Williams being there to me as a gift.
Let's look at the interior to so you get Seth
McLachlan the center out of Ohio State, Jalen Rivers, attackle
out of Miami Brandon Crenshaw Dixon, the tackle out of Florida,
Willie Lampkin, the guard out of North Carolina, Logan Brown
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offensive tackle from Kansas, Chase Lunt, tackle from Connecticut, as
Johnny Cornelius from Oregon, Luke Candra, guard from Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I like Lunton Brown, but I think I take Kyle Williams. Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It's a value. Yeah, and we've got another pick here
coming real soon, right right now, Okay, so we don't
pick again until two twenty nine. You take Touton here,
I think you, guys, I think you have to. I
think you take Touton, which.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I'm I'm happy with him still being there. The other
I didn't like the rest of the backs.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, that works out. Okay. Now, now we have another
pick coming at two twenty nine. That's our last one,
and that's our last one.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Okay, I consider secondary help. I'd consider a guard.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
All right, guys, still available. Jordan Hancock, safety out of
Ohio State. He does more than just that though, good player.
Yeah yeah, Canada Momfield the safety or i'm sorry, wide
receiver from pitt We took the receiver though. Jared Harrison Hunt,
the defensive lineman from SMU. That's not horrible. Yeah. Andrew Armstrong,
wide receiver from Arkansas, ZOFH. Frasier cornerback from UTSA. Jalen
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Travis the offensive lineman from Iowa State. He's massive, He's
a big dude. Yeah. Elijah Badger wide receiver, Florida. Nico
Reid cornerback from Oregon.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I'm out of the receiver.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I think he's just take an offensive lineman and be
happy about it. And looks like the Iowa State guy
is the only one here. And that's the interesting Iowa
State runs a lot of zone is what you're looking for. Yeah,
and that's kind of what you're looking for. He might
be a guard, he might be a tackle.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I would certainly like to add an offense.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
But he is a monster. Yeah six seven?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Why not? Yeah? Sign up develop them for a year
and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Okay, So in this mock draft, we ended up with
Derek Carmon in the first round. We stayed it. We
moved down from eighty three.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, we weren't.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Weren't allowed to move in brown one and took Tyler's
chuck at eighty five.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
We moved up into ninety two and took Jamari Calbwell.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Okay, the lion got nice shot in the arm.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Then at one twenty two in the fourth round, we
took Kyle Williams, the wide receiver out of Washington State.
We also took Bayshell Tooton, the running back out of
Virginia Tech at one twenty three.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Two big play guys.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
And then we got Jalen Travis, the offensive tackle out
of Iowa State in round seven, and.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
We went back around and next year.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, yeah, we traded a three four three for four.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I like it. I don't on the door. I mean
there's been mox I like better, there's mox I like worse.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I mean, just looking at the first five picks, you
got Harmon Schuck Caldwell Williams touton.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
It's pretty nice. It's pretty nice.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah. Yeah, I think you helped yourself out, But then
you miss out on all the stuff late.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah, yeah, all right. I might even still be on
the phone with the Dobbins or something like that too.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
If you came out of five picks in the top
one twenty three you get Harmon Shock Caldwell Williams.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Touton, it's pretty strong, it's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
You had a pretty good da Yeah, yeah, draft.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
And they fit what you're after. And there's a lot
of actually, there's a lot of high end potential of
those guys because they're pretty high ceiling players. Yeah, there's
a lot of athleticism, a lot of speed for each
for their respective position. Caldwell's really active. Him and Harmon
are buddiest room together. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good haul. Yeah,
and then a project alignment. You know, I don't dislike it. No,
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I don't dislike it either.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah. Interesting. Anyways, let's get to a break. That is
our latest mock draph.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Quick question, yes, yes or no? They will trade a
future pick during this draft. They might get one back,
but I bet I say yes, I bet they moved.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Something right now. As it stands, the get eleven picks
next year. Yeah, they are not going to make eleven
picks next year. And even if you trade one a
future pick next year to move up spots this year
to get somebody that you desire. Let's say again, you
move up from one twenty two to get to one
one oh five.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, yeah, all right, that's worth a fifth round picks
exactly exactly. You know, it's it's great to have all
those picks to maybe move up in the first round
for a quarterback, But future sixth and fifth don't get you.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
That's not going to get it done. It doesn't get
you at ten, you know, right, yeah right.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
I would say this like, it's not like if seventh
round picks are worth a penny, one hundred of them
don't equal a first round pick. Yeah right, you know
they don't. Just not the way it works, right, I
don't need fifteen seventh round.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
And one of the things that Omar Khan has done
a great job of is if he does let's say
he moves a five for next year, yeah, he almost
always gets another later pick. Something, something he gets let's
throw something into the mix.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah, what might be? Yeah, and they might have more
this time next year. We might be like, oh, they
got a lot of compics for twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah. Somebody who was asking me today, well, I thought
they had multiple seventh round picks this year. I'm like, yeah,
they flipped one for a six round pick in the
Metcalf deal.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
He does it all the time. He did with pick It,
and he did it with Johnson to every trade. At me,
let me move on one round.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I want to make that deal, but how about we
just little something these late round picks.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, I love it, Yeah, I love those guys.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Just throw toss that in.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I mean, if you basically have a done deal and
then you come in and say let's just do that, no,
one's just say no.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Rights are already spreading about what they're going to do
with that pick. It's like it's like going, you know,
to the car dealer and okay, but toss me in
those those floor mats.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Right exactly. We already got a deal. We know you're
getting the car.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I want to get the car. I'm going to give
you the place match right.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
You know. Yeah, DK metcalf found a home. That's and
I'll gladly give you.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
The we got you two. Okay, we'll toss that in.
We'll give you I'm.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Going to say that's that's not going to make you
stop the deal.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Right Yeah. Anyways, let's get there a break. He is
Matt Williamson, I'm Dale Lolly. We'll be back with more
right after this.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
He's The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on
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Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
And we are back. I am Dale Lolly, he is
the Matt Williamson and Matt. Bucky Brooks has put together
a list here from the In his opinion, the All pros,
Pro bowlers are future All Pros, pro bowlers, and overachievers
in this particular draft class. Okay, guys he thinks will
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be All pros someday within the next three years, pro
bowlers within the next three years, and then his overachievers.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
And as we say, all pro and pro bowler two different.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Things, two completely different things.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
So think the All Pro list is gonna be short
for me?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
At least it would be for me, but it's not
for Bucky is well, Bucky has five guys on that list.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Okay, instead of Genty.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Genty is ho there he is Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
I get it. But because he's so unique, can he
get All Pro votes if he's only playing seventy five
percent of the snaps at one position? It almost has
to be a full time And then to me.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
It has to be a cornerback because he's not going
to get All Pro wide receiver. He's just not.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
It's it's so this leg right, I forget, but it
might have been Daying there's four all pro spots, right exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
You're not getting one of those, not.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I mean, you'd have to play every snap and be
a full time receiver.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
And hit it be better than oh, I don't know,
Chase and Jefferson, and it's just not going to happen, right.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
So I mentioned I was listening to Dane today and
they was talking about Hunter, and in his opinion, he
thinks Hunter can be a top three NFL corner, right,
and a top ten NFL receiver. I think the competition
at receiver's.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Harder, way harder, way harder.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Right, Yeah, but Pro Bowl, I mean that's what we're
talking about. All pros here. Ten doesn't get it done? Yeah,
you know, three does.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
He thinks Abdull Carter can be an all Pro and
I don't. I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Is it better Max Crosby?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Right, because he can't at tough time getting he can't
get there.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Right, right, I mean Max Crosby's gotta be dot Garrett Bosa, Parsons, Watt.
I mean I don't see that from Carter.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
No, I don't either. Gent is number three. I see that.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Takuan and Henry are gonna last forever to.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Tyler Warren the tight end. Maybe here's the thing with
the tight ends. And I again, we did our top
ten list. It'll come out next Monday on Steelers dot
Com top ten offensive players, and I put Warren and
Loveland in the top ten in my top ten because
I bet I will too. They are safe picks and
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they could be really good based on where But it
depends on where they go, what team they go to.
Do you use the tight end? Do you not use
the tight end? Are you gonna Are you gonna feature
them like the Raiders did with brock Bowers If you're
gonna do that.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
So that's how Penn State used Warren, right, I mean
they featured him to no end. Is a new team
going to dedicate that, That's why I might doubt.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I mean, look at what happened and this year in Detroit,
like all of a sudden, now they have multiple wide
receivers that are catching the ball.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
And yeah, back to Warren being at all pro though,
I mean Kelsey and Kittle will fade away, Yeah, fine,
Powers is in fade away. No, And I don't know
the Warren's much better off than the Laporters of the world.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
But if again, if he landed in the right spot,
like right now, Trey McBride. McBride's ahead of him is
the right because he gets the ball all the time,
right right, he's a number two receivers, number one, number one. Yeah,
not that he's he's not a better player than many
of the other tight ends in the league. He's in
a great situation.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Situation, right, Yeah, And Warren gets Warren worries me just
because there's so many manufactured touches in the Penn State offense.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Is that going to happen at the NFL level?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Right? I think Loveland's better at getting open on his own.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Like if Warren went Let's say Warren goes to New
England for example, Kay, he might get the touches there.
I like that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I mean if they have to trade back or whatever,
something weird happens, they take him at ten.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
That would actually make a lot of sense for them.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
But may would love it. Yeah, McDaniels is that he
knows exactly what to do with those dudes and pick
up more picks, right, Yeah, I like that. But if
he ends up in Chicago or Indy like he's been
rumored to, or the.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Jets, he catches sixty balls a year. He's not going
to be All pro.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
No, no, no, I mean I think Lovelin might have better
chance to be All Pro than more because if.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
He hits, I think he could hit bigger. Yeah, and
statistically like for fantasy, and he might because he's going
to go maybe a little bit later, goes to a charger,
goes to a better team.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah, yeah, better quarterback, better just yeah, maybe they would
be all pros for me, not or Pro bowlers, not
all pros.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
His fifth guy on this list is Jaylen Walker. If
he's an edge, yeah, could he be All Pro as
an inside backers and off the ball back chance because
he goes out and gets seven sacks? Yeah, as a
Kendrell Bell like rookie year or something like that. And
he goes and gets eight sacks as a rookie. And
could he be Zach Bond, who was right an All
Pro this year? Yeah, I could see him see that. Yeah,
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that wouldn't blow me away. That's how I would use him.
I mean Bond was an edge until a year ago. Yeah,
now he's kind of both, you know, yeah, his Pro
Bowl guys, this isn't that hard to get to, right,
This is a little bit easier. This means they're probably
going to be in their top ten at their position
in three years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mason Graham is his
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first guy on there. That's a tough nut to crack too.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeh. I say there's some serious.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I understand Cam Hayward's getting older, Chris Jones is getting older.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Right right, right, But I mean Jansen Carter isn't. Well,
everybody is, but I mean he's not going away.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeahster Lawrence, those guys aren't going anywhere. I mean some
of those over the next three years, right, like like
even in the Edge we didn't even talk about like Hutchinson.
I mean the guys that didn't finish the season, like
Lawrence got hurt. Those guys stay healthy. You're not cracking
those guys out there. He does have Colston Loveland on
that list.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I'm cool with that. I could see that I would
have both tight ends on that.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah. I assume that the guys who are on the
All Pro lists are also on This is Will Campbell
and Arman Membo. Can they be top ten tackles.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Campbell could be a top ten guard.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
He could be top ten guard.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I think Membo can be a top ten tackle.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
He's a top ten right tackle.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah. I don't know if that matters with the voting.
I don't know how much Bucky thought about right vers
left and all that.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I think it does. It matters like souls on his
own is on his own right because he's Tim and
Lane Johnson every year. Yeah, you know, right, but Lane
won't be wrong. But they don't necessarily look at that
when they're voting for the panel thing.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah thing, but there are some good young ones, the worfs,
and yeah, they're not going away. Yeah, those guys last
a long time.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Uh. Number five, here's Jihad Campbell, the linebacker from Alabama.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Linebacker might be easy, I could see that. Yeah, I
mean the Walker conversation he has. He gets sacks and
big plays.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Will Johnson and John A. Barron on the list.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Possible, but it's tough for us take the ball away,
make some big plays. Yeah, okay, he has Shador Sanders
and cam Ward on you. I was about to say, quarterbacks,
it's so easy all you have to I mean because
Josh all the good ones bow out. Well.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
If he's saying top ten though, you're they take three yeah,
three from each conference. That means you have to be
one of the first two alternates to go to the
Pro Bowl. That's a tall test to ask for a
young quarterback.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I don't think either one of them is in that neighborhood. No.
Maybe Ward hits, but he's gonna have a tough time.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
He's gonna have Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Yeah, yeah, But David Garrard went and high.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I understand that.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, you know, come on, being voted there, I'm not
I'm not. Yeah, being voted there is much different than
being than showing up in the game. I'm the ninth,
ninth guy that decided to go right right.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Everybody in the playoffs side, they don't want to play
body hurts. They're playing the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Walter Nolan, Oh yeah, could Yeah. His last guy on
there is Omari in Hampton.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I think that's pretty solid. Yeah. Is he a top
ten back, Baby, as soon as next year he's your
top ten back. It might be a top six or
seven back next year.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah. His red stars, which are guys that he thinks
are guys that he would pound the table for if
he were in a draft roan right now. His number
one guy is Shador Sanders.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
I understand why people like him I just don't.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
He has him as his top ranked player at quarterback reward. Wow,
I don't see it.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
He's not alone. I've heard some analysts say that. I've
heard others say they got Jackson Dart ahead of them.
I know, based on the mobility factor. I've heard people
in the not think Dark's going to go ahead of
him on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, based on the mobility factor. Sador Sanders is a
pocket passer, right, I mean like this, not that he's
a bad.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Athlete, it's not bad, but he's not a trump card.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah he never did. He never ran.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I mean, if it's if it's Saints are picking, but
if this was Saints Nation Radio, I might take Dart
over Sanders, you know with Kellen Moore is my guy
and where I'm.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
At, and he's a better athlete. Yeah, I don't love either,
but yeah I don't either. Number two on airs, Mason
Taylor the tight end out of lsu get.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I mean, the more we talked through the tight ends,
Oh never mind, this isn't a Pro Bowl and all
pro this is the guys he likes. Okay, sure I
get that. Yeah, I'm not going to tell Bucky who
he likes. You and who doesn't. Yeah, No, you don't
really like him.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
He is Donovan azer Echo, the edge wretcher at a
Boston college unner, and I like him a lot.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
He's a good run suffer too. Yeah, he was in
my top five and today.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
When we were doing I heard an interview with him
somewhere recently. I'm like, that's I think he's got a
good bress. He got a good head on his shoulder.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Steps some of those edge guys don't. Yeah, he's pretty safe.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah, although, as Greg Lloyd once had this on his tea,
you're not hired to play edge rusher for you just disposition.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
No, you're absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
You're hired to go.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
At a different conversation day about Shador, they're like, oh,
people think he's cocky. I'm like, I don't hold that
against No. I want to be cock Ben was cocky,
Brady's cocky. I mean, like that's what I want. Yeah,
I don't want them to lack confidence.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I don't want to have to hear from his dad
every time, right and something happens.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I wish he was faster, and you know, I wish
that's an issue.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I wish he didn't take as many sacks as he
did right and hold the ball.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I don't care that he's cocky or yeah, that does
turn in your program around. That's what I want, right,
You better be cocky. If you're not, you're in the
wrong business. That doesn't bother me at all. In fact,
I want all my players to be cocky, right. I
want them all to think that they're really good. I
even said if his name is Shadoor Williamson, would they
would have a problem with it. I mean it's just
because I understand Dad's prime time and you know, like
they just don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Uh, Cam Scatibo, he has on this list pretty easy
to like. Well, there's a lot, yeah, definitely out there
to like. And he's he's a tough one.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Like he's not. For me, to be honest with you, I.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Don't think he fits necessarily what the Steelers want in
their running back right now. I think he's really talented,
but he's you think he's super talented. He's a between
the tackles runner. I think he's really talented. If you
want a guy that's going to grind out yardage for you,
oh yeah, yeah, he's nausey Harris.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
If you want to if you're looking for a direct
replacement for Nause, that's he'll looking for something different, and he.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Might be he might end up being better at that.
I think he has better contact balance and vision than
has Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Definitely better vision, and they're probably equally or who's harder
to tackle? Is neither one fun?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Neither one is fun? Right right? Yeah? But in this
particular draft like draft, there weren't any the running back
that year was not good.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
No, and we all agree Nase he had a good
career here. But if he was coming the Alabama version
of Nause, he's coming out in this draft. I don't
think he'd end up as a Steeler.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
I think he'd be a second or third run draft.
I think were Scatabogo somewhere in there exactly.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I think it'd be like, but he wouldn't be the
kind thereafter. Right, you know?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
The final guy on his list here is Darius Alexander.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Hmmm. I don't problem with that either.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
No, I think he's I think he's a good player.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I think I would like to have seen more dominance
at Toledo. Not like it was bad, but yeah, it
wasn't like he was just a grown men throwing people
all round. You know, I would have liked a little
more than that.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
He's really good at the Senior Bowl, right, and there's
a lot of tools there too.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, he's going to be a good player.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
He is heavy, heavy hands.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yes, I don't think he's the next step onto it,
but I think he's different than Ty Robinson, you know
what I mean, He's better than like that group you
know that we like, we like all those guys.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, so that's Bucky's lister. Good interesting. Yeah, from that perspective,
I don't know if there's anybody whould add are there's
some maybe some guys that would take off of that list,
But yeah, all pro's tough. All pros is a tough
nut to crack. Do you get five All pros out
of one draft? Right, it's a pretty good draft. I
forget what tackles?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Did he have? Membo and Campbell one all pro?
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I meant to say this when when you brought those
names up. I mean, Fuaga Fatan who lath them? Alt?
I mean there was a lot of tackles drafted that
maybe haven't shown their true colors yet. Some of the
master yet the column.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, some barely played last are going to be in
the league as long as those guys, and they're already there.
They're already there, right, and they're just basically the same
agency's got.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
That's I mean, like they're gonna have to compete with
those six immediately, let alone while Lane Johnson's flu worse
and all those dudes.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Right, Yeah, it's gonna be tough. Yeah, Trent Williams still exists, right, Yeah,
So anyways, let's get to a break. He is the
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Speaker 2 (36:17):
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Speaker 1 (36:33):
And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is the
Matt Williamson and Matt Jackson. Dart has changed his mind
and will not attend the twenty twenty five NFL Draft.
Oh really, you think that's because he got news that
he wouldn't be taken in the first round.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Thank You's must be the family.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I wouldn't this is me, but it wouldn't be for me.
I would much rather be with my parents, wife, family friend.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
He was one of three quarterbacks who were going to
be at the draft. Cam Ward obviously, Jalen Milroe is
going to be there. Yeah, I know that should Or
Sanders was not invited. Turned it down, Okay, Dart I
said yes and then change his mind. MIKEL. Williams also
changed his mind on that.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I wouldn't look too much into it. I think it's interesting,
especially from a quarterback perspective. Yeah. Do you think if
I said you have to pick one or the other,
Dart will be a first round pick. I'm saying you
would take him. Do you think he goes in the
top thirty two. I'm going to lean towards yes.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I'm going to lean towards yes.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
I don't pay trade back or something like that.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I don't think that there are more than three quarterbacks
taken in the first round.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
I think there'll be three.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
I think it'll be three.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Like if I if I was playing the over under
for Vegas.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
And a half or three and a half, I'd go
under a Rover.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah, let's do that real quick quarterback we just did
running back is I think it's just there's three the
over unders two and a half.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah, but Henderson's over under is like at twenty.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah, I think i'd go under that.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
You'd go under two and a half, yeah, or you
go under, you go over Henderson's.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I would go over on Henderson because I don't think
he goes in the first round. I think it's two
and a half.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
I'm gonna I think there's three, but I might end
up with more than thirty two when we had them
all lot that's.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
The problem right right wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
I would go we sold Hampton goes like I could
see why someone might want Henderson and not Hampton.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
In the draft. We mark draft we just did. He
did not go till round two.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, I don't know that there'd be Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
I think it's I think I would go under two
and a half.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Okay, I think there'll be three.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Wide receiver two. I think it's two.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I think two are a sure thing. I'd probably said
it a two and a half.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
I might set it three and a half just to
be and I'd go under. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
But last year was weird, like get Pierce, all those
guys worthy they all went at the end of playoff teams. Yeah,
you know, someone trades up the ground. That was a
different different now it was a deeper. But I'm just
saying good teams might be like I just seed one,
give me Burden as my number two dude.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, but I would still go. I think there's two yeah, yeah,
two tight ends.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I don't think a third gets in, although I could
see Kansas City maybe may taking it that shot.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
But a two and a half, I'm going under.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Let's just say offensive line in general. I'm gonna say
maybe with the name though, Zabel, Yeah, Booker, I'm a
positive book.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
To Top two tackles, Top two Tackles I think Jackson
goes and I think Simmons goes. Simmons, I'm sorry, Simmons.
I would say Jackson or book are not both. Yeah,
I don't see both Banks. Yes, that is the seven Campbell,
Membo Banks, Simmons, Zabel, I'm missing a tackle, Booker, I'm
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definitely missing a tackle. See Baron or that you said
Banks and I said Banks. I think there's four tackles.
Four tackles.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I'm gonna say four tackles and two interior linement that
gets you just six.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Gets you six. If it was six and a half,
I might go under. But O line always goes more
than you think.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Ye, interior defensive line. I'd said it a three and
a half.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yes, I think all four deserve it. That the most.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I could see Grant being the one that falls out
of the first round, or Nolan because of maybe something
I don't I just think he goes. But I think
Grant as a nose tackle first, maybe falls out of.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
The first rounds. Yeah, it might be like I can
ten picks and get Tyler Williams or two rounds and
get called well right, three and a half.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
The number edge might edge might be like seven.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Real quick on Detackle. Would you go over three and
a half or under? I probably go over, but it's.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
The right line, it's the right line. Yeah, yeah, edge edge,
Carter's going yeah. I think both Georgia guys are going yeah.
Not what do you depend what do you consider Walker?
Speaker 3 (41:18):
I consider him an edge, but you put him.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Here's the thing though with with that. So let's say
the team that drafts him, so we're gonna play him
off the ball. Yeah, do you then lose your right
and him and Campbell aren't that much different, they really aren't, right,
but Ones looking at his linebacker, Ones looked at an edge.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Yeah, I think Green's going Yeah. I think Pearson ezeriqe
are fifty to fifty. Stuart Stewart's probably going six. I
would go over six. Yeah, it's always a position the
man too. Yeah. Probably the number should be like six
and a half. Yeah, I mean the Eagles could screw
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up your bat with the.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Last pick easily, easily easily they probably will.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Yeah, you know two of.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Below there or something?
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yeah, yeah, anybody right, Yeah, Yeah, I think six and
a half is the number. I think it's like one
off the ball linebacker again, depending on Walker and edge
and Campbell linebacker.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
It depends on what you call those guys. And again,
if you're if you're actually putting money on that, I
would want to know what happens.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Does it matter what the commissioner comes out of his
mouth or not? Or they just calling these guys what
they are? Right? So one or two depending how.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
We call it corners I think you're looking at I
would say three. I would put the number like four
and a half.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
They always there's always gonna be more than you think. Yeah,
but can ravel go in there? Benjamin? Those are major
ways I can't be imagine.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Could is Eerie A Thomas somebody take that? I don't.
I don't see it, but you never know. The Tucky
dude could, Yeah he could, Amos could Johnson Baron? And Hunter?
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Well, I wasn't thinking about Hunter then? Yeah, and quick Hunter.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
That would be the other thing I want to clarify.
Are they saying he's he's definitely a cornerback, he's definitely
a wide receiver or it doesn't count as both right
or yeah?
Speaker 3 (43:20):
I don't know how they do.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Is it how the commissioner announces these guys? If he
announces because Hunter is told he wants to be announced
as a cornerback, wide receiver. But if they don't do that,
does that effect or if they do do it?
Speaker 3 (43:32):
I mean thirty three guys were take in the first
round for betting reason there you go.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
I don't know that, but.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
I would say, what five corners if we count hunter, Yeah,
I think that's a good number.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
I think that's a good number, and then two safeties.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Yeah, but I'm not positive they both go.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
I put the number at one and a half and say,
and I would take the over, Yeah, two and a half.
I take the under, right, I mean it's that's two
and a half an easy under it. That's why I
think it would be said at one and a half.
I haven't looked at any of this stuff, right, right, right,
there's no way there's will be three. Right, we know
that no kickers.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
The one and a half would have to be and
then maybe waited a little bit. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
I bet if we add it up, but there's more
than thirty two.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Probably, yeah, but it should it should be in this draft, yeah, yeah, yeah,
because that's just a lot. You know, we may have
thirty eight guys on there if I did the math
on it, but I.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Don't know if Vegas does that or not. When they
add up all their positions, is it equal thirty two
or is it just probably the money wherever they can
make the most money.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Is how they hear about that?
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Right? They're not trying to get it right, Yeah, they're
trying to get your money, yes, and they do it well.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Anyways, that's going to do it for our shows this week, Matt.
When we come back next week.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Draft Week is Draft Week? Only three shows next week though.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
That is true. We're only on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. We
do have a special show with Mike Persuda on Wednesday
night on WDV.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
We also you can find us other places.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Oh yes, and we will have plenty of shows on
Steelers Nation Radio Draft Day then or all weekend. We
will have shows cover the entire time that the draft runs.
We have a little previews each day that we start
to show. We started an hour early both days I
think Monday, even Thursday and Friday, and we'll take you
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all the way through till the last pick.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Absolutely, that's what we do here. You and I'll be
doing a lot of legwork.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Absolutely. But for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller
here on site running the Justin Miller Hotline. And Justin
will be logging a lot of hours.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Yeah, he's got a long couple days coming to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
And for Tyler.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Okay, okay, yeah, just a marathon.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
And Ford Tyler Vitmeyer making sure our video gets up
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At least.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on
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Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
And welcome back to our number two of the Drive
here on the Steelers Audio Network. I'm Dale Lolly. He
is the Matt Williamson except no imitations. And Matt, it
is time to do a little mock draft here and
we're using the Pro Football Focus mock draft here today.
And I want to have one caveat here today.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Let's do something a little different.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
We're not moving out of the first round. We're not.
We're not we're not trading down in the first round.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
We're picking it to pot at twenty one, no matter what. Okay,
we got a couple of tweets about that over the
last couple of days. Yeah, why I just do one
where you stick and pick at twenty one.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Now, that doesn't mean we can't trade up into the
second round, perhaps trading some future picks. It doesn't mean
we can't move around in later that's spots.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
So we're we're picking somebody.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Picking somebody at twenty one because we kind of want
to do this typically that's what want typically that's what
the Steelers do.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Of course, yeah, I mean just say, oh, we'll just
trade out. You don't get five offers like you and.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
And realistically we've right now, we've only got one and
I'm not interested. We've got three guys and the one,
the one that's offered is at twenty five. And really
there are just looking at it here the players that
would be in consideration for the Steelers. At this point,
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you've got Omari and Hampton, Derek Harmon and Shodoor Sanders.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
The Grant and Nolan are gone.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Granton Nolan are gone.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
I don't know I would trade back now.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I'm not trading back taking hard. I think you stick
and you pick Harmon. You know. In fact, to me,
it comes down to Hampton or Harmon versus Hampton. I
think I don't think. I don't think Sanders is in consideration.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I don't either. I think we differ on this a
little that I think Hampton the fine prospect, but compared
to the three d tackles, I think there's a big gap.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I think there's a big I think those other guys
and somebody asked that on the message board, would wouldn't
you be better off taking Hampton and then you can
just fill your needs on defensive line later in the draft.
I'm like, I'm looking for my potential long term replacement
for Cam Hayward, his.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Labs always I went to tow It, I went the
Hayward even like chance of find that in the third.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Round, I can get a nose tackle later in a draft.
And everybody knows my ty Robinson love but he's but
he's not. He's not. He's not the next stuff on
Twit or Cam Hayward. No, No, he's a good player. Yeah, Yeah,
like they're not. Nolan might be. Yeah, those guys aren't changing,
you know, immediate starters. Potentially, they're gonna be rotational players
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in the early inner career. Maybe they become starters down Yeah,
but they're not.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
That getting one of those three to me is a
lot better start than Hampton. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
So I'm gonna go ahead and draft Harmon here. Yeah,
which we've been pretty consistent with over the last oh
I don't know, eight weeks that we're taking the defensive
tackle there, and Harmon has kind of been the guy
here that's centered in on.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Now, all right, if they take Harmon at twenty one,
like that's exactly how it goes.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And I screwed that up again. I didn't hit seven rounds.
But okay, we'll go back.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
We can restart it.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I can restart it, and we're gonna do the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
get the same settings here.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Assuming he's available.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
I imagine he will be. Yeah, Kenneth Grant went one
pick ahead of ours, so that just makes it even
more so.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Denver's a sneaky spot for a detackle too.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
They might say I'm gonna wait in round two for
Henderson or Judkins.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
All right, we are now into round two. Do we
ended up with Harmon? We ended up with Harmon. The
Giants are on the clock at thirty four. I'm gonna
hit resume here. We'll see where it goes. I don't
think any of the other running backs nobody went.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
I mean, I'm not interested in treating a first round
pick to get into the early no second.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
No, okay, Now we're down to forty four and the
running back o'mari and Hampton went thirty four actually to
the Giants, which would make some sense. Absolutely then Colston, Loveland, Darius, Alexander, Jack,
Becky Tullik, Williams, Nick Emuwari, Brayden Swinson, the edge rusher
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out of LSU. It's a little early for.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Him, but these are ones that went.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, Xavier Wats, a safety had a Notre Dame, Trey
Amos the cornerback out of Mississippi, and Maxwell Harriston at
forty three cornerback out of Kentucky. So the running backs
are largely still untouched.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, I'm not super excited about trading premium future picks
for a running back.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
All right, I'm gonna let Bill Roe is also still
say I.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Would do it for a quarterback. Yeah, but not a
running back. All right.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Hit, Okay, we're now within We're down to pick fifty four,
and Jayden Higgins went from Iowa state wide receiver J. T.
Twomloa the edgress right of Ohio State. Landon Jackson the
edgdresser from Arkansas, Chavon Revel cornerback from East Carolina. TJ.
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Sanders defensive lineman from South Carolina, Omar Norman Lott defensive
lineman from Tennessee. A Zeri A. Thomas cornerback from Florida State.
Prince Au edg rusher from Mississippi. Cam Scatabow went at
fifty two, running back from Arizona. Donovan Jackson went at
fifty three.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
I don't see a massive need unless you really want
to get crazy on Milroe or shopping.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
We're about thirty, we're about thirty picks away.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, well you suggested the trade up for.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Back quarterback or yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I'm redundant with it, but I would love their first
two picks to be one of those three D tackles
in Milroe. Yeah, and the rest of stuff I can
fill in.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
My question would be none of the teams. So cam
Ward went one. Still, cam word the Dark I believe
let's see here, Sanders has gone to the Browns, the
Giants haven't taken a quarterback, the Saints haven't taken a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
The teams that Dart's still there. Yeah, okay, I mean
if Dark art the third round, I'd be interested. Yea,
that's what I think he is.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I'm going to resume. Yeah, that's fine. All right, we're
within eighteen picks. Now, we're the top of the third round,
and your guy is still there, as are Caleb Johnson.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Went certainly happy with that in the third Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Okay, so do we think the Giants take a quarterback here.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, but they don't take three of them.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
They don't take true enough. All right, so you want
to let it run, all right? Now we are within
ten picks. So they did take Jackson Darket's start at
sixty five, which that's where he belongs, that's where he.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Should go with that. That's great, And we don't say
a lot of great things about Dart. You take him there.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Good, here's the problem. Yeah, Traveon Henderson then went at
sixty six to the Chiefs, Dylan Samson went at sixty
eight to the Raiders, and Quinn Shawn Judkins went at
sixty nine to the Patriots.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Okay, there's two two quarterbacks still out there. Were picking
ten picks, right, yeah, what are the running backs out there?
Speaker 1 (07:31):
Well, you're looking at guys that didn't like the Neil
Hart into this second tier of right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, so that's what we're gonna do. That's the way.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, I'm not I don't now, I don't want to
trade right.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Right, there's all pretty similar Martinez or you know.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, all right, I'm gonna let it run. Okay, we
are up. Well, guess what, Jaylen Miller went to the Colts,
not the craziest thing I ever heard that late Shuck
still there, Schuck is still there. At running back, you're
looking now at R J. Harvey, Damian Martinez, DJ Gidden's
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Devin Neil.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I like all those guys all would be fine.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
At what else will we look at their coin cornerback
you're looking at Dorian Strong, Jacob Parrish.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I don't love that, not for my second pick.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
No defensive line. You're looking at Vernon Broughton. He would
be a little redundant. Jamary Calbwell, I'm interested. I think
Jamary Caldwell might go a little bit earlier.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I think there's some buzz on him right now too.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, because he can actually rush the passer.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
He's very active.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
And if you take you go Calbwell and Harmon, Harmon
the Oregon D line. Yeah. Now we do have some
trade back offers. The Broncos are on the phone. They've
got pick eighty five. This is eighty three, this is
eighty three. So we're not going to get a premium
pick here, but we're going to get the pick back
that we've.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I'll take the extra pick, which could end to be
in the reading move.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Back to spots. I'm not happy with anybody that's in
that Are they coming up to get shocked? I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I doubt it.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So if they're going to give us eighty five, I'm
gonna one.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Maybe we can throw in a seven and get a
five or something.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Well, they got another pick coming at one twenty two.
If I give them pick one eighty five, can I
get up to one eighty two? Sixty five percent chance.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
That that would be joy moving back two spots to move.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Back to spots, I would give up eighty three and
one eighty five for eighty five and one twenty two.
I would do that. They accepted it, okay, all right?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Who they won?
Speaker 1 (09:37):
I'm just curious they came up to get Jalen Royals,
which would make them sense they could use Yeah, they
could use them, all right. Andrew mccooba also went, So,
now we're making we're faced with the same question here
do we take at eighty five.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I'm cool with Caldwell. I like the backs. I would
definitely take shock. I think there's a big difference between
him and Howard roar Well.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Then the next question is what becomes now that we've
got eighty five, one twenty two, one twenty three can
we move one of the Let's say we move our
fourth rounder next year or a fifth runner next year,
because we're gonna have two of them, right, I got
no problem moving though, to change one twenty two to
move up to get two of those guys.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Yeah. Now, I'm not sure the backs will fall that.
I mean there's four or five of the backs, right,
we could get three of those guys. My point right,
if we stay put took shock, then.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
We don't pick again. Running one twenty three is what
we have. If I can, If I can flip say
one twenty three and next year a fourth or a
fifth next year to move up to ninety.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I'm mentioned in that, I feel a lot better I can.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Then I feel good about taking shuck here, knowing that
I'm also.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Going to get come up for a noser running back.
Those are a running back without losing the other picking
the one twenty which will be the other position.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Right, Yeah, I'm cool with that, So let me take again.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I have no problem getting rid of a next year
fifth or something like that.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
The giants. The Giants have picked ninety nine. They're on
the phone right now. They want to move up here
to eighty five. I don't want to trade eighty five.
I don't want to I don't want to do that.
But I'm going to talk to the Rams have picked
ninety and they don't have many picks, okay, so I'm
going to talk to them. I'm going to say, hey, Rams,
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what if we give you one three and next year's
four to come up to ninety. And they're saying no,
So all right, we'll go on to the next one.
It's the Ravens. We're not going to trade with them.
The Seahawks. However, if we go, they're saying no to that.
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Will we offer a three next year for that? I
don't want to go. I don't want to do that.
I don't want to do that.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
There's not a prospect out there. I'm going I have
to have.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
I can't believe if I offer them one, if I
offer the third next year, they're going to take it. Sure, sure,
But I'm if I'm offering a third next year, I
want to give them like one fifty six this year,
and they would do that. Did we already take shocked
or not? We have not yet. We haven't made a
pick yet. Okay, I'm just I'm just feeling out offers
here while we're on the phone deciding whether we take
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shock or not. So what they would do if we
give up next year's three and pick one fifty six
this year, we can get ninety two and probably something
else from them, And we could if I could flip,
if I can get there four next year.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
And that's fine. I mean, I don't mind giving up
a three with four coming back.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Right that has a sixty sixty five percent chance. So
we would get ninety two in the rams fourth round
pick next year, and we're giving up our third round pick,
so maybe we're going to have a compensatory.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Pick next year, right right, We'll still have a third.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
One fifty six in our third next year.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
I'm cool with it that.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
They accepted it, all right, So now I think you
take the quarterback, do yeah, because you've effectively you got
other resources to deal with stuff. Yeah, all right, So
Tyler shuck it is okay. And now we're up at
one ninety earth our.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
Future picks only a third turned into a four.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, okay, all right, the picks in between that one
we got shock or're Jalen Noel m hmm, Oladaijo jonas
I Vania Jared Wilson Center out of Georgia, Elijah Roberts
the edge rusher out of SMU.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
We already got that, and the Ravens stock R J. Harvey.
Would you consider nol I mean, I like the running
back conversation. He's there.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
They'd be wide receivers available next year. They're always available.
I think in this situation, grab Caldwell. I think you
take the nose tackle here. He's going to start for you.
Gonna play a lot one way or the other. Yeah,
I think he ate Jamari.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Colwall here, double down on Oregon D line.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
They can room together.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
They'll be buddies.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
So we get the quarterback. We get that, and we
still got picks one and twenty three. We'll get a
running back.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
We'll get a back. Yeah, I'm not worried about the back.
They'll get Martinez or well he just went to the Browns. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
So okay, Higgins, I'm gonna let it run here, all right.
So we're now up at one twenty two.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
The running got a little confusing for listeners. Right now
we have a nose a d n in a quarter.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Right now, we have Derek Harmon, Tyler Shuck, Jamari Caldwell Okay, cool,
that's what we got. We're up now at pick one
twenty two. Here's the problem though, the running backs available.
Jaden Blue, No, that's not what I'm after, Trevor atn No,
Jarquez Hunter maybe, maybe, Brichard Smith, No, he doesn't. All
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these small backs, Kalel Mullins, he's not good enough for that.
Cale mcgonagay, I think you don't force it. Baychhelle Touton
is there.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
But I would take Tooton over the rest of those guys.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
Now, if I look at the other positions, just best available,
you're looking at Kyle Williams.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Oh I do that?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
We get the next pick coming to save On Jones,
R J. Mickens the safety at a Clemson. Isaac Tesla
the wide receiver out of Arkansas, Torery Hohrton, Jonash Sanker
the safety at of Virginia Gunner Helm. Is there an
offensive lineman there that you would.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Always consider a lineman?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
But Kyle Williams being there to me as a gift.
Let's look at the interior to so you get Seth
McLachlan the center out of Ohio State, Jalen Rivers, attackle
out of Miami Brandon Crenshaw Dixon, the tackle out of Florida,
Willie Lampkin, the guard out of North Carolina, Logan Brown
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offensive tackle from Kansas, Chase Lunt, tackle from Connecticut, as
Johnny Cornelius from Oregon, Luke Candra, guard from Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I like Lunton Brown, but I think I take Kyle Williams. Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
It's a value. Yeah, and we've got another pick here
coming real soon, right right now, Okay, so we don't
pick again until two twenty nine. You take Touton here,
I think you, guys, I think you have to. I
think you take Touton, which.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I'm I'm happy with him still being there. The other
I didn't like the rest of the backs.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Yeah, that works out. Okay. Now, now we have another
pick coming at two twenty nine. That's our last one,
and that's our last one.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Okay, I consider secondary help. I'd consider a guard.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
All right, guys, still available. Jordan Hancock, safety out of
Ohio State. He does more than just that though, good player.
Yeah yeah, Canada Momfield the safety or i'm sorry, wide
receiver from pitt We took the receiver though. Jared Harrison Hunt,
the defensive lineman from SMU. That's not horrible. Yeah. Andrew Armstrong,
wide receiver from Arkansas, ZOFH. Frasier cornerback from UTSA. Jalen
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Travis the offensive lineman from Iowa State. He's massive, He's
a big dude. Yeah. Elijah Badger wide receiver, Florida. Nico
Reid cornerback from Oregon.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I'm out of the receiver.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I think he's just take an offensive lineman and be
happy about it. And looks like the Iowa State guy
is the only one here. And that's the interesting Iowa
State runs a lot of zone is what you're looking for. Yeah,
and that's kind of what you're looking for. He might
be a guard, he might be a tackle.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I would certainly like to add an offense.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
But he is a monster. Yeah six seven?
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Why not? Yeah? Sign up develop them for a year
and see what happens.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Okay, So in this mock draft, we ended up with
Derek Carmon in the first round. We stayed it. We
moved down from eighty three.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, we weren't.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Weren't allowed to move in brown one and took Tyler's
chuck at eighty five.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
We moved up into ninety two and took Jamari Calbwell.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Okay, the lion got nice shot in the arm.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Right.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Then at one twenty two in the fourth round, we
took Kyle Williams, the wide receiver out of Washington State.
We also took Bayshell Tooton, the running back out of
Virginia Tech at one twenty three.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Two big play guys.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
And then we got Jalen Travis, the offensive tackle out
of Iowa State in round seven, and.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
We went back around and next year.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Yeah, yeah, we traded a three four three for four.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
I like it. I don't on the door. I mean
there's been mox I like better, there's mox I like worse.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
I mean, just looking at the first five picks, you
got Harmon Schuck Caldwell Williams touton.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
It's pretty nice. It's pretty nice.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Yeah. Yeah, I think you helped yourself out, But then
you miss out on all the stuff late.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah, yeah, all right. I might even still be on
the phone with the Dobbins or something like that too.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
If you came out of five picks in the top
one twenty three you get Harmon Shock Caldwell Williams.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Touton, it's pretty strong, it's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
You had a pretty good da Yeah, yeah, draft.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
And they fit what you're after. And there's a lot
of actually, there's a lot of high end potential of
those guys because they're pretty high ceiling players. Yeah, there's
a lot of athleticism, a lot of speed for each
for their respective position. Caldwell's really active. Him and Harmon
are buddiest room together. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good haul. Yeah,
and then a project alignment. You know, I don't dislike it. No,
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I don't dislike it either.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah. Interesting. Anyways, let's get to a break. That is
our latest mock draph.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Quick question, yes, yes or no? They will trade a
future pick during this draft. They might get one back,
but I bet I say yes, I bet they moved.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Something right now. As it stands, the get eleven picks
next year. Yeah, they are not going to make eleven
picks next year. And even if you trade one a
future pick next year to move up spots this year
to get somebody that you desire. Let's say again, you
move up from one twenty two to get to one
one oh five.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah, yeah, all right, that's worth a fifth round picks
exactly exactly. You know, it's it's great to have all
those picks to maybe move up in the first round
for a quarterback, But future sixth and fifth don't get you.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
That's not going to get it done. It doesn't get
you at ten, you know, right, yeah right.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
I would say this like, it's not like if seventh
round picks are worth a penny, one hundred of them
don't equal a first round pick. Yeah right, you know
they don't. Just not the way it works, right, I
don't need fifteen seventh round.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
And one of the things that Omar Khan has done
a great job of is if he does let's say
he moves a five for next year, yeah, he almost
always gets another later pick. Something, something he gets let's
throw something into the mix.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Yeah, what might be? Yeah, and they might have more
this time next year. We might be like, oh, they
got a lot of compics for twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah. Somebody who was asking me today, well, I thought
they had multiple seventh round picks this year. I'm like, yeah,
they flipped one for a six round pick in the
Metcalf deal.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
He does it all the time. He did with pick It,
and he did it with Johnson to every trade. At me,
let me move on one round.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I want to make that deal, but how about we
just little something these late round picks.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Yeah, I love it, Yeah, I love those guys.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Just throw toss that in.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
I mean, if you basically have a done deal and
then you come in and say let's just do that, no,
one's just say no.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Rights are already spreading about what they're going to do
with that pick. It's like it's like going, you know,
to the car dealer and okay, but toss me in
those those floor mats.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Right exactly. We already got a deal. We know you're
getting the car.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
I want to get the car. I'm going to give
you the place match right.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
You know. Yeah, DK metcalf found a home. That's and
I'll gladly give you.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
The we got you two. Okay, we'll toss that in.
We'll give you I'm.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Going to say that's that's not going to make you
stop the deal.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Right Yeah. Anyways, let's get there a break. He is
Matt Williamson, I'm Dale Lolly. We'll be back with more
right after this.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
He's The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on
your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and
Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
And we are back. I am Dale Lolly, he is
the Matt Williamson and Matt. Bucky Brooks has put together
a list here from the In his opinion, the All pros,
Pro bowlers are future All Pros, pro bowlers, and overachievers
in this particular draft class. Okay, guys he thinks will
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be All pros someday within the next three years, pro
bowlers within the next three years, and then his overachievers.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
And as we say, all pro and pro bowler two different.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Things, two completely different things.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
So think the All Pro list is gonna be short
for me?
Speaker 1 (22:47):
At least it would be for me, but it's not
for Bucky is well, Bucky has five guys on that list.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Okay, instead of Genty.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Genty is ho there he is Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
I get it. But because he's so unique, can he
get All Pro votes if he's only playing seventy five
percent of the snaps at one position? It almost has
to be a full time And then to me.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
It has to be a cornerback because he's not going
to get All Pro wide receiver. He's just not.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
It's it's so this leg right, I forget, but it
might have been Daying there's four all pro spots, right exactly.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
You're not getting one of those, not.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I mean, you'd have to play every snap and be
a full time receiver.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
And hit it be better than oh, I don't know,
Chase and Jefferson, and it's just not going to happen, right.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
So I mentioned I was listening to Dane today and
they was talking about Hunter, and in his opinion, he
thinks Hunter can be a top three NFL corner, right,
and a top ten NFL receiver. I think the competition
at receiver's.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Harder, way harder, way harder.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Right, Yeah, but Pro Bowl, I mean that's what we're
talking about. All pros here. Ten doesn't get it done? Yeah,
you know, three does.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
He thinks Abdull Carter can be an all Pro and
I don't. I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Is it better Max Crosby?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Right, because he can't at tough time getting he can't
get there.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Right, right, I mean Max Crosby's gotta be dot Garrett Bosa, Parsons, Watt.
I mean I don't see that from Carter.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
No, I don't either. Gent is number three. I see that.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Takuan and Henry are gonna last forever to.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
Tyler Warren the tight end. Maybe here's the thing with
the tight ends. And I again, we did our top
ten list. It'll come out next Monday on Steelers dot
Com top ten offensive players, and I put Warren and
Loveland in the top ten in my top ten because
I bet I will too. They are safe picks and
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they could be really good based on where But it
depends on where they go, what team they go to.
Do you use the tight end? Do you not use
the tight end? Are you gonna Are you gonna feature
them like the Raiders did with brock Bowers If you're
gonna do that.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
So that's how Penn State used Warren, right, I mean
they featured him to no end. Is a new team
going to dedicate that, That's why I might doubt.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I mean, look at what happened and this year in Detroit,
like all of a sudden, now they have multiple wide
receivers that are catching the ball.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
And yeah, back to Warren being at all pro though,
I mean Kelsey and Kittle will fade away, Yeah, fine,
Powers is in fade away. No, And I don't know
the Warren's much better off than the Laporters of the world.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
But if again, if he landed in the right spot,
like right now, Trey McBride. McBride's ahead of him is
the right because he gets the ball all the time,
right right, he's a number two receivers, number one, number one. Yeah,
not that he's he's not a better player than many
of the other tight ends in the league. He's in
a great situation.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Situation, right, Yeah, And Warren gets Warren worries me just
because there's so many manufactured touches in the Penn State offense.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Is that going to happen at the NFL level?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Right? I think Loveland's better at getting open on his own.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Like if Warren went Let's say Warren goes to New
England for example, Kay, he might get the touches there.
I like that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
I mean if they have to trade back or whatever,
something weird happens, they take him at ten.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
That would actually make a lot of sense for them.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
But may would love it. Yeah, McDaniels is that he
knows exactly what to do with those dudes and pick
up more picks, right, Yeah, I like that. But if
he ends up in Chicago or Indy like he's been
rumored to, or the.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
Jets, he catches sixty balls a year. He's not going
to be All pro.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
No, no, no, I mean I think Lovelin might have better
chance to be All Pro than more because if.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
He hits, I think he could hit bigger. Yeah, and
statistically like for fantasy, and he might because he's going
to go maybe a little bit later, goes to a charger,
goes to a better team.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Yeah, yeah, better quarterback, better just yeah, maybe they would
be all pros for me, not or Pro bowlers, not
all pros.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
His fifth guy on this list is Jaylen Walker. If
he's an edge, yeah, could he be All Pro as
an inside backers and off the ball back chance because
he goes out and gets seven sacks? Yeah, as a
Kendrell Bell like rookie year or something like that. And
he goes and gets eight sacks as a rookie. And
could he be Zach Bond, who was right an All
Pro this year? Yeah, I could see him see that. Yeah,
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that wouldn't blow me away. That's how I would use him.
I mean Bond was an edge until a year ago. Yeah,
now he's kind of both, you know, yeah, his Pro
Bowl guys, this isn't that hard to get to, right,
This is a little bit easier. This means they're probably
going to be in their top ten at their position
in three years. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mason Graham is his
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first guy on there. That's a tough nut to crack too.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeh. I say there's some serious.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I understand Cam Hayward's getting older, Chris Jones is getting older.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Right right, right, But I mean Jansen Carter isn't. Well,
everybody is, but I mean he's not going away.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeahster Lawrence, those guys aren't going anywhere. I mean some
of those over the next three years, right, like like
even in the Edge we didn't even talk about like Hutchinson.
I mean the guys that didn't finish the season, like
Lawrence got hurt. Those guys stay healthy. You're not cracking
those guys out there. He does have Colston Loveland on
that list.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
I'm cool with that. I could see that I would
have both tight ends on that.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah. I assume that the guys who are on the
All Pro lists are also on This is Will Campbell
and Arman Membo. Can they be top ten tackles.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Campbell could be a top ten guard.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
He could be top ten guard.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I think Membo can be a top ten tackle.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
He's a top ten right tackle.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
Yeah. I don't know if that matters with the voting.
I don't know how much Bucky thought about right vers
left and all that.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
I think it does. It matters like souls on his
own is on his own right because he's Tim and
Lane Johnson every year. Yeah, you know, right, but Lane
won't be wrong. But they don't necessarily look at that
when they're voting for the panel thing.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah thing, but there are some good young ones, the worfs,
and yeah, they're not going away. Yeah, those guys last
a long time.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Uh. Number five, here's Jihad Campbell, the linebacker from Alabama.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Linebacker might be easy, I could see that. Yeah, I
mean the Walker conversation he has. He gets sacks and
big plays.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Will Johnson and John A. Barron on the list.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Possible, but it's tough for us take the ball away,
make some big plays. Yeah, okay, he has Shador Sanders
and cam Ward on you. I was about to say, quarterbacks,
it's so easy all you have to I mean because
Josh all the good ones bow out. Well.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
If he's saying top ten though, you're they take three yeah,
three from each conference. That means you have to be
one of the first two alternates to go to the
Pro Bowl. That's a tall test to ask for a
young quarterback.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
I don't think either one of them is in that neighborhood. No.
Maybe Ward hits, but he's gonna have a tough time.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
He's gonna have Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Yeah, yeah, But David Garrard went and high.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
I understand that.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, you know, come on, being voted there, I'm not
I'm not. Yeah, being voted there is much different than
being than showing up in the game. I'm the ninth,
ninth guy that decided to go right right.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Everybody in the playoffs side, they don't want to play
body hurts. They're playing the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
Walter Nolan, Oh yeah, could Yeah. His last guy on
there is Omari in Hampton.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I think that's pretty solid. Yeah. Is he a top
ten back, Baby, as soon as next year he's your
top ten back. It might be a top six or
seven back next year.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Yeah. His red stars, which are guys that he thinks
are guys that he would pound the table for if
he were in a draft roan right now. His number
one guy is Shador Sanders.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
I understand why people like him I just don't.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
He has him as his top ranked player at quarterback reward. Wow,
I don't see it.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
He's not alone. I've heard some analysts say that. I've
heard others say they got Jackson Dart ahead of them.
I know, based on the mobility factor. I've heard people
in the not think Dark's going to go ahead of
him on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Yeah, based on the mobility factor. Sador Sanders is a
pocket passer, right, I mean like this, not that he's
a bad.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Athlete, it's not bad, but he's not a trump card.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah he never did. He never ran.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
I mean, if it's if it's Saints are picking, but
if this was Saints Nation Radio, I might take Dart
over Sanders, you know with Kellen Moore is my guy
and where I'm.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
At, and he's a better athlete. Yeah, I don't love either,
but yeah I don't either. Number two on airs, Mason
Taylor the tight end out of lsu get.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I mean, the more we talked through the tight ends,
Oh never mind, this isn't a Pro Bowl and all
pro this is the guys he likes. Okay, sure I
get that. Yeah, I'm not going to tell Bucky who
he likes. You and who doesn't. Yeah, No, you don't
really like him.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
He is Donovan azer Echo, the edge wretcher at a
Boston college unner, and I like him a lot.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
He's a good run suffer too. Yeah, he was in
my top five and today.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
When we were doing I heard an interview with him
somewhere recently. I'm like, that's I think he's got a
good bress. He got a good head on his shoulder.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Steps some of those edge guys don't. Yeah, he's pretty safe.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yeah, although, as Greg Lloyd once had this on his tea,
you're not hired to play edge rusher for you just disposition.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
No, you're absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
You're hired to go.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
At a different conversation day about Shador, they're like, oh,
people think he's cocky. I'm like, I don't hold that
against No. I want to be cock Ben was cocky,
Brady's cocky. I mean, like that's what I want. Yeah,
I don't want them to lack confidence.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I don't want to have to hear from his dad
every time, right and something happens.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I wish he was faster, and you know, I wish
that's an issue.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
I wish he didn't take as many sacks as he
did right and hold the ball.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I don't care that he's cocky or yeah, that does
turn in your program around. That's what I want, right,
You better be cocky. If you're not, you're in the
wrong business. That doesn't bother me at all. In fact,
I want all my players to be cocky, right. I
want them all to think that they're really good. I
even said if his name is Shadoor Williamson, would they
would have a problem with it. I mean it's just
because I understand Dad's prime time and you know, like
they just don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Uh, Cam Scatibo, he has on this list pretty easy
to like. Well, there's a lot, yeah, definitely out there
to like. And he's he's a tough one.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Like he's not. For me, to be honest with you, I.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Don't think he fits necessarily what the Steelers want in
their running back right now. I think he's really talented,
but he's you think he's super talented. He's a between
the tackles runner. I think he's really talented. If you
want a guy that's going to grind out yardage for you,
oh yeah, yeah, he's nausey Harris.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
If you want to if you're looking for a direct
replacement for Nause, that's he'll looking for something different, and he.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Might be he might end up being better at that.
I think he has better contact balance and vision than
has Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Definitely better vision, and they're probably equally or who's harder
to tackle? Is neither one fun?
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Neither one is fun? Right right? Yeah? But in this
particular draft like draft, there weren't any the running back
that year was not good.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
No, and we all agree Nase he had a good
career here. But if he was coming the Alabama version
of Nause, he's coming out in this draft. I don't
think he'd end up as a Steeler.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
I think he'd be a second or third run draft.
I think were Scatabogo somewhere in there exactly.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I think it'd be like, but he wouldn't be the
kind thereafter. Right, you know?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
The final guy on his list here is Darius Alexander.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Hmmm. I don't problem with that either.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
No, I think he's I think he's a good player.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
I think I would like to have seen more dominance
at Toledo. Not like it was bad, but yeah, it
wasn't like he was just a grown men throwing people
all round. You know, I would have liked a little
more than that.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
He's really good at the Senior Bowl, right, and there's
a lot of tools there too.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Yeah, he's going to be a good player.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
He is heavy, heavy hands.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Yes, I don't think he's the next step onto it,
but I think he's different than Ty Robinson, you know
what I mean, He's better than like that group you
know that we like, we like all those guys.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Yeah, so that's Bucky's lister. Good interesting. Yeah, from that perspective,
I don't know if there's anybody whould add are there's
some maybe some guys that would take off of that list,
But yeah, all pro's tough. All pros is a tough
nut to crack. Do you get five All pros out
of one draft? Right, it's a pretty good draft. I
forget what tackles?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Did he have? Membo and Campbell one all pro?
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I meant to say this when when you brought those
names up. I mean, Fuaga Fatan who lath them? Alt?
I mean there was a lot of tackles drafted that
maybe haven't shown their true colors yet. Some of the
master yet the column.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, some barely played last are going to be in
the league as long as those guys, and they're already there.
They're already there, right, and they're just basically the same
agency's got.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
That's I mean, like they're gonna have to compete with
those six immediately, let alone while Lane Johnson's flu worse
and all those dudes.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Right, Yeah, it's gonna be tough. Yeah, Trent Williams still exists, right, Yeah,
So anyways, let's get to a break. He is the
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back to finish up the show, right, after this.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt
Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the
Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is the
Matt Williamson and Matt Jackson. Dart has changed his mind
and will not attend the twenty twenty five NFL Draft.
Oh really, you think that's because he got news that
he wouldn't be taken in the first round.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Thank You's must be the family.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I wouldn't this is me, but it wouldn't be for me.
I would much rather be with my parents, wife, family friend.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
He was one of three quarterbacks who were going to
be at the draft. Cam Ward obviously, Jalen Milroe is
going to be there. Yeah, I know that should Or
Sanders was not invited. Turned it down, Okay, Dart I
said yes and then change his mind. MIKEL. Williams also
changed his mind on that.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
I wouldn't look too much into it. I think it's interesting,
especially from a quarterback perspective. Yeah. Do you think if
I said you have to pick one or the other,
Dart will be a first round pick. I'm saying you
would take him. Do you think he goes in the
top thirty two. I'm going to lean towards yes.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
I'm going to lean towards yes.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
I don't pay trade back or something like that.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I don't think that there are more than three quarterbacks
taken in the first round.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
I think there'll be three.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
I think it'll be three.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Like if I if I was playing the over under
for Vegas.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
And a half or three and a half, I'd go
under a Rover.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
Yeah, let's do that real quick quarterback we just did
running back is I think it's just there's three the
over unders two and a half.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Yeah, but Henderson's over under is like at twenty.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah, I think i'd go under that.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
You'd go under two and a half, yeah, or you
go under, you go over Henderson's.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
I would go over on Henderson because I don't think
he goes in the first round. I think it's two
and a half.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
I'm gonna I think there's three, but I might end
up with more than thirty two when we had them
all lot that's.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
The problem right right wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
I would go we sold Hampton goes like I could
see why someone might want Henderson and not Hampton.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
In the draft. We mark draft we just did. He
did not go till round two.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, I don't know that there'd be Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
I think it's I think I would go under two
and a half.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Okay, I think there'll be three.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Wide receiver two. I think it's two.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I think two are a sure thing. I'd probably said
it a two and a half.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
I might set it three and a half just to
be and I'd go under. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
But last year was weird, like get Pierce, all those
guys worthy they all went at the end of playoff teams. Yeah,
you know, someone trades up the ground. That was a
different different now it was a deeper. But I'm just
saying good teams might be like I just seed one,
give me Burden as my number two dude.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Yeah, but I would still go. I think there's two yeah, yeah,
two tight ends.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I don't think a third gets in, although I could
see Kansas City maybe may taking it that shot.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
But a two and a half, I'm going under.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Let's just say offensive line in general. I'm gonna say
maybe with the name though, Zabel, Yeah, Booker, I'm a
positive book.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
To Top two tackles, Top two Tackles I think Jackson
goes and I think Simmons goes. Simmons, I'm sorry, Simmons.
I would say Jackson or book are not both. Yeah,
I don't see both Banks. Yes, that is the seven Campbell,
Membo Banks, Simmons, Zabel, I'm missing a tackle, Booker, I'm
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definitely missing a tackle. See Baron or that you said
Banks and I said Banks. I think there's four tackles.
Four tackles.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
I'm gonna say four tackles and two interior linement that
gets you just six.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Gets you six. If it was six and a half,
I might go under. But O line always goes more
than you think.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
Ye, interior defensive line. I'd said it a three and
a half.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yes, I think all four deserve it. That the most.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I could see Grant being the one that falls out
of the first round, or Nolan because of maybe something
I don't I just think he goes. But I think
Grant as a nose tackle first, maybe falls out of.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
The first rounds. Yeah, it might be like I can
ten picks and get Tyler Williams or two rounds and
get called well right, three and a half.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
The number edge might edge might be like seven.
Speaker 3 (41:03):
Real quick on Detackle. Would you go over three and
a half or under? I probably go over, but it's.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
The right line, it's the right line. Yeah, yeah, edge edge,
Carter's going yeah. I think both Georgia guys are going yeah.
Not what do you depend what do you consider Walker?
Speaker 3 (41:18):
I consider him an edge, but you put him.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Here's the thing though with with that. So let's say
the team that drafts him, so we're gonna play him
off the ball. Yeah, do you then lose your right
and him and Campbell aren't that much different, they really aren't, right,
but Ones looking at his linebacker, Ones looked at an edge.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Yeah, I think Green's going Yeah. I think Pearson ezeriqe
are fifty to fifty. Stuart Stewart's probably going six. I
would go over six. Yeah, it's always a position the
man too. Yeah. Probably the number should be like six
and a half. Yeah, I mean the Eagles could screw
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up your bat with the.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Last pick easily, easily easily they probably will.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
Yeah, you know two of.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Below there or something?
Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yeah, yeah, anybody right, Yeah, Yeah, I think six and
a half is the number. I think it's like one
off the ball linebacker again, depending on Walker and edge
and Campbell linebacker.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
It depends on what you call those guys. And again,
if you're if you're actually putting money on that, I
would want to know what happens.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Does it matter what the commissioner comes out of his
mouth or not? Or they just calling these guys what
they are? Right? So one or two depending how.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
We call it corners I think you're looking at I
would say three. I would put the number like four
and a half.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
They always there's always gonna be more than you think. Yeah,
but can ravel go in there? Benjamin? Those are major
ways I can't be imagine.
Speaker 1 (42:52):
Could is Eerie A Thomas somebody take that? I don't.
I don't see it, but you never know. The Tucky
dude could, Yeah he could, Amos could Johnson Baron? And Hunter?
Speaker 3 (43:06):
Well, I wasn't thinking about Hunter then? Yeah, and quick Hunter.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
That would be the other thing I want to clarify.
Are they saying he's he's definitely a cornerback, he's definitely
a wide receiver or it doesn't count as both right
or yeah?
Speaker 3 (43:20):
I don't know how they do.
Speaker 1 (43:20):
Is it how the commissioner announces these guys? If he
announces because Hunter is told he wants to be announced
as a cornerback, wide receiver. But if they don't do that,
does that effect or if they do do it?
Speaker 3 (43:32):
I mean thirty three guys were take in the first
round for betting reason there you go.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
I don't know that, but.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
I would say, what five corners if we count hunter, Yeah,
I think that's a good number.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
I think that's a good number, and then two safeties.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
Yeah, but I'm not positive they both go.
Speaker 1 (43:48):
I put the number at one and a half and say,
and I would take the over, Yeah, two and a half.
I take the under, right, I mean it's that's two
and a half an easy under it. That's why I
think it would be said at one and a half.
I haven't looked at any of this stuff, right, right, right,
there's no way there's will be three. Right, we know
that no kickers.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
The one and a half would have to be and
then maybe waited a little bit. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
I bet if we add it up, but there's more
than thirty two.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Probably, yeah, but it should it should be in this draft, yeah, yeah, yeah,
because that's just a lot. You know, we may have
thirty eight guys on there if I did the math
on it, but I.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Don't know if Vegas does that or not. When they
add up all their positions, is it equal thirty two
or is it just probably the money wherever they can
make the most money.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
Is how they hear about that?
Speaker 3 (44:27):
Right? They're not trying to get it right, Yeah, they're
trying to get your money, yes, and they do it well.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
Anyways, that's going to do it for our shows this week, Matt.
When we come back next week.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Draft Week is Draft Week? Only three shows next week though.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
That is true. We're only on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. We
do have a special show with Mike Persuda on Wednesday
night on WDV.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
We also you can find us other places.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Oh yes, and we will have plenty of shows on
Steelers Nation Radio Draft Day then or all weekend. We
will have shows cover the entire time that the draft runs.
We have a little previews each day that we start
to show. We started an hour early both days I
think Monday, even Thursday and Friday, and we'll take you
(45:13):
all the way through till the last pick.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Absolutely, that's what we do here. You and I'll be
doing a lot of legwork.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Absolutely. But for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller
here on site running the Justin Miller Hotline. And Justin
will be logging a lot of hours.
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Yeah, he's got a long couple days coming to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
And for Tyler.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
Okay, okay, yeah, just a marathon.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
And Ford Tyler Vitmeyer making sure our video gets up
there onto YouTube. Check it out, give us the thumbs up,
leave us your replies and all that good stuff. I'm
Dale Lollie. We thank you for listening to this edition
of the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.
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