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Speaker 1 (00:03):
At least.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on
your twenty four to seven home of the Black and
Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he
is the Matt Williamson and Matt Steelers continuing with their
prospect visits.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yah.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah. Three more guys in today. That would be Kansas
State running back DJ Giddensky interesting player, Texas A and
M outside linebacker Shamar Stewart huh and SMU defensive tackle
Jared Henderson Hunt.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Don't know a lot about him.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
He's in Miami transfer who was one of the guys
that you know, showed up at the SMU last year.
Got the prerequisite size, like six thirty three inch armed,
all that, you know.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah, yeah, he fits the bill.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah later on pick later on guy, Yeah go go
ahod the idea that they're bringing in Stewart, if you
look at the first round guys in Stuart's one of those. Yeah.
I think the first round type prospects that they have
brought in, it's kind of run across the gamut, and

(01:18):
it got me to thinking today, I'm like, there's no
way that they're interested in all of these guys no, right, right, right,
But that doesn't mean that somebody else won't be And
so you put that out there, you bring the guy
in for a visit, kind of put this funny. You
said the colonel out there that hey, maybe we'll take
this guy and you might get somebody to trade up
into that spot at twenty one. Who really wants this guy?

Speaker 3 (01:41):
It's really funny he brought that up, because I was
thinking the same thing of the last twenty four hours,
but only through the quarterback lens. They if they aren't
going to take a quarterback at twenty one, they want
every quarterback they can can to fall in the top twenty. Right,
So if the Giants or Brown Brown's want Darter Sanders,
you want them to trade ahead of you to take, yeah,

(02:01):
because so that they fall so and oh, by the way,
you might be playing against that guy twice the year
in Cleveland, you know. And it's never a bad idea
to dude, due diligence on a quarterback, and maybe they
do love one of them.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Stuart kind of feels the same way. Yeah, I wonder
about Hampton. He's the only the only outside linebacker prospect
that they brought in.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Right, I mean, and he's bigger than the typical Steeler guys,
and they could sell it that they think he's a
three four end when it's all said and done, or
he's Leal or somebody like this.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
He's an outside Linebacker's how he was described.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Okay, and for the press release there's no press release.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah. Yeah, they view him as an outside linebacker, which
is what he is. And I look at the same
way with bringing in Matthew Golden. Yeah, I look at
Stuart similar maybe cornerbacks, right, you know, like I can't
see them taking some of these guys in the first round,
but you put that out there and think, well, maybe
there is another one.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
That's a perfect example.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, some of these somebody who might want to get
one of those guys starts looking at it, going maybe
the Steelers will take him. We might want to trade up.
And the whole goal is to get them drafted before
twenty one, or to get somebody thinking you're gonna take
them at twenty one, so they think, okay, we're gonna
we're gonna trade up to twenty one to take them.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
And Steay yah, yeah, yeah, I've been thinking the same
thing all along because a lot of their visits didn't
add up. And I'll be honest, i've been Business Mornings.
That's the first I've heard Stuart. And then he said that,
I'm like Mike, but I've been thinking about this quarterback situation.
They want guys to go ahead of them. Yeah, I
very much think that's the case.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
I think it's, you know, just playing a little poker here. Yeah, yeah,
and you know, put in what's what's his hand? I
don't know. I don't know what the hand is. He's
been a lot of weird moves here, like he's got
a good hand, But does he you know? And maybe
you and I are off base with their detackled love. Maybe,
but I don't think so. I bet not.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
I kind of trust us to know these things. And
how would we build a team. What do they truly need?
And they haven't been in right harmon Harmon was okay.
And that doesn't exactly show your hand either. I mean,
it doesn't mean you have to take him.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
It's all the guys who you think might be in
that fifteen to twenty five rings and it's such a
gray draft too.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah, you know, well, if they're interested, and maybe I
could do have to move up three spots to get
the guy or whatever. I was saying the same thing,
but just with the quarterbacks. But Emuari Stuart, I don't
know how they could take them at twenty one, right,
you know, especially that second round pick.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
But somebody else might look at him go well, I
really like the traits, so I better go get him.
If I want him, I got to go get him.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Then again, I think they want those dudes to fall
before twenty one or have someone make them an offer
a twenty one yeah, which all that adds up.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, And I've seen some stuff lately where some speculation
regarding this draft is that you could see more movement
because teams are gonna have everybody's gonna have these guys
great a difference.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And so maybe someone's just standing out
on your board after people are going like he's way
better than everybody.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
The speculation and the way we feel about it as well,
is that you know that top five is the top five,
and then there's maybe twelve guys that are true blue
chipper first rounds. That's how teams view it there.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah, I'm not even sure four and five are blue chippers, right.
You know what I mean, I think if you're the Patriots,
Like so I was kiding this round on a podcast
today too, Like, if you're the Giants at three and
Hunter and Ward are gone, Carter is the best player,
But do you really want to trade Thibodeau on you know,

(05:43):
cents on the dollar, or if you really want a quarterback,
could you convince Carolina to come to three or and
then take your quarterback there at eight or nine, or
the Bears or the Niners or a team like that
to go get Carter. That wouldn't change the Steelers out
look much, but I think you'd want I personally would
want a quarterback to fall before twenty, you know, or

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in the top twenty.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
It makes me think maybe we should do a mock
draft where we make all the picks for the teams
and we entertain all the trade offers that go along
with that, because I think there could be some extreme movement. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
I mean, the more we get, the closer we get
the I originally thought it's gonna be kind of a
boring draft, but I don't know that it will.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
And I think the Giants and.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Browns hold such huge keys if they're going to try
to pick their guy and then come back for the quarterback, right,
what are they willing?

Speaker 1 (06:37):
And to that point, there are certain positions that are loaded.
There are other positions that aren't right, and so it's
gonna maybe put more of a premium on some of
those guys. Maybe Amori is so much high rated, so
much higher than the rest of the strong safety prospects
and he's clean or whose State guy or something like that.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
That Miami has a huge say, yeah, you know, there's
only two that they want and one goes all of
a sudden, Well, maybe we need to get aggressive and more.
We have Ami way higher than everybody else. I mean,
if you're a testing team you like him. Yeah, Yeah,
I mean I think that that is all interesting. And
again I really thought that way with not that they
should not have or Sanders in, but I mean it's

(07:20):
they definitely should and should consider them at twenty one. Yeah,
but you definitely want the world to know or to
think that you love them.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah. They've essentially now outside of of cam Ward, have
you either met with or been.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
At the pro day of They've showed a pretty blatant
interest of all the guys.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
The quarterbacks in this draft. Yeah, that are that are
going to be draftable. That's not an accident.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
That's not an accident because they probably are considering drafting
one of them and.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
They then they probably I mean, you're going to take
four to camp.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
There's definitely been additions to this.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
So you're going to bring a young quarterback to camp,
right right, whether that's a draft pick or whether that's
a you know, undrafted free agent.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Are you willing to spend it on which guys? And again,
I think it depends on I don't. I think you're
trying to cover your tracks a little bit here too,
and that's a good way of doing it. Yeah, I
just I just see it.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Just I was thinking about it today when when you
know Stewart was one of the visits, I'm like, they're
not taking an outsideline, no way first.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Rounds and not think of safety either, right, I mean
it's just not I'm not sure on running back, you know,
I mean, I'm not sure on receiver.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
I mean it'd be a tough receiver, would be. You
kind of understand people who still have them taking a
receiver and that has that's not as prevalent as you
to know you spent your second round draft pick was
spent on a.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Receiver receiver, right, I mean, Pickings would almost have to
go for it to makes sense.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
And I don't know if that's the plan either, you know,
I don't think it is, right.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
So I again, I was kind of thinking the same
thing that there was some cat and mouse stuff going
on here. And even like in mcshay's draft we went
over yesterday, he have them taken Nayari And one of
his logics was this team in the first round usually
draft somebody that's in their building. Well, maybe people, I mean,
maybe they realize, well, if I start bringing in different

(09:07):
people in my building, will be a little less transparent.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
You know. Yeah, And and and in recent maybe I
know enough about Nolan or whatever, you know, in recent years,
they I mean, they didn't hide their love for Nausee Harris.
They didn't hide that they were, you know, in the
in the quarterback market in twenty one, right, right, I
should say they they had looked at all those guys,
well they're taking a quarterback, and you know.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
They're definitely not hiding their quarterback interest, right interest.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yeah, yeah, you know, unlike unlike that that year was
like five guys that they were, you know, the five
guys who were considered the top five the least year.
They've they've covered the gamut. Yeah, they've they've looked at
them all. But I just said interest in taking action
or two different things. You know, I'm interested. I want
to learn quarterbacks in particular. I know, I went there
scouting report to be vast, you know, because we are

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going to play against them. Is there something I don't
know about them that puts them over the edge that
I do want them or I just want in the
world to think I want a quarterback. I just think
one of the things that Mike Tomlin always talks about
is being thoughtfully non rhythmic.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, And for those two years, they weren't very thoughtfully.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
No, they were pretty rhythmic and pretty easy to figure out.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
You know. This year it seems like they're they're saying, Okay,
we've done this the last few years, last year, the
last couple of years. But well they're you know, they're
very interested in the offensive tackles. That was no, that's
no secret exactly. Now it's like, okay, what are the
Steelers taking? You see it all over the quarterback We
saw I mean, wari we've seen wide receivers. We've seen
cornerbacks in the first round.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, I won't say. It doesn't even make them look bad.
But he texted me yesterday he's a friend of the
show and he's kind of a national dude, and asked,
what do you think the Steelers are doing at twenty one?
You know, and a real chance it's a quarterback. And
I'm like, but it's gonna be a defensive tackle. He's like,
and he wrote back, It's like, oh, that adds up

(10:56):
so much. It wasn't as transparent to me because I'm
not so close to the team and I don't know
it's one hundred percent could be defensive tackle. But it
didn't take any convincing. When I wrote DT back to
him in attacks, He's like, Yep, that makes all of
sense in the world. That's who the team is.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
That's what's the sweet spot in the draft.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
And it was good to hear from an outsider like, yeah,
you're not You guys aren't crazy doing that over and over?

Speaker 1 (11:18):
You know, No, and again, if you look at the
roster right where's the hole?

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Where could you not?

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yes, quarterback is sort of a hole right.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Now, and I can't fit with a third round pick.
I mean I can add to it, I can put
some dirt in that hole, but it's not going to ye.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Assuming Aaron Rodgers signs, then it's not a hole, right right, right,
But you still have a whole defensive end or defensive whichever,
one of the defensive.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Linemen of some sort a prominent member in that room
if not to.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I mean, I'm looking on our lads the other day
and like they have Isaiah louder Milk listed as a
Steeler starter is end. Would anybody and that's no offense
to Isaiah would exact be happy if Isaiah louder Milk
open the season is starting defensive end.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
No, and Cam Heyward misses a week or two, that
was like, oh no, yeah right, it's a disaster if
I maybe this is something we should do between now
and the draft too. Kind of like our twenty one list.
If I were ranking needs, DT one would be number one,
d T two might be number two.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah, I mean, why we've taken two and a lot
of right, you know, and maybe it's a true nose
tackle right right, you know, but you want to get both.
Ideally could get that one player, but I think you
still want to take another guy who's a depth piece.

Speaker 3 (12:32):
I do too. I mean, I think even if I
have Nolan or Harmon or whoever, I'm going to have
a hard time to turning down another defensive tackle. I
like a lot for a running back, a developmental quarterback.
I mean, I'm a coord type or something like that,
and certainly anything else on defense.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, I mean, I just think that's the way this
whole thing aligns. And it just seems to me that
the Steelers are being very thoughtfully non rhythm Yeah. Visits, Yeah, Yeah,
it's all over the place.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
You can try to read what we're doing, but there's
a lot of smoke here.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
I tend to say the same thing. It's funny you
brought that up because I thought I thought I was
gonna bring that on you from the quarterback perspective. Not
that they dislike Sanders or Dart or any of those guys,
but I think you want the world to think you
want them.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, you know, and again when you've when you've been
so transparent with your with what you've done the last
few years, now you switch it up a little bit,
and that's you know, yeah, zigging when everybody else is
zagging and Steelers want Wait a second, they brought in
like six first round guys, but they're all different position.

Speaker 3 (13:37):
They're all different, right you any direction, they're a wild
card where they're me mother, we're taking and we don't
want to be that, you know, stucking stone, but they're
taking defense bag. Yeah, and maybe I mean even taking
a step further. Maybe you could make a push a
division rival Cleveland to spend more than they should to
get Sanders or dart or something like that.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Yeah, drafts where there's where they're a bunch of picks
to go up and get a quarterback all the way eighteen.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
You can't do it at twenty five, Cleveland, you better
act out get ahead of the Steelers.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Got to get ahead of Steelers.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
So now you're short other resources. Yeah, it's it's the flat.
Maybe this isn't the segment, but the Flacco signing is
a little weird to me too.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
That doesn't move the need of it all from me. Well,
I just wonder how it affects Cousins. I thought's for
sure it would be cousins pickings and a pick. I
think it takes them out of the Cousins market.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
I think it absolutely does.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, and all of a sudden, his market is where
do they just hang on to him and wait for
somebody camp or something like that, or they hope for
a Sam Bradford deal.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Or is Aaron Rodgers going to retire and Cousins coming here?
I mean that crossed my mind, you know, like, now
what happens to Kirk? Or is he just going to
be the falcons backup for the year. The bron just
wanted to take the bird in hand. They Hey, we've
had We've had Joe in the building. Yeah, you know,
he knows the offense. It's not going to be I mean,
I would prefer cousins if I were them, but maybe

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the Falcons aren't moving them or I don't know. I
thought that was an odd move to happen today.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah, well, I just think they wanted to get that
out of the way and they could still draft one.
I mean, they only have two quarterbacks on the roster right.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Them and the Giants are really similar. I mean, I
don't think their quarterback rooms are all that different, and
they both could still pick one.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah. So anyways, let's get to a break. He is
the Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lollie, You're listening to
the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and
I will be back with more right after this.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
At least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt
Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the
Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
And we are back Guy and Dale Lolly. He is
the Matt Williamson and we forgot to do the Twitter questions.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Oh yeah, they've been rolling the ex.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Twitter immediately I put the thing out today. And what
is Twitter? Why do you insist on calling it Twitter
when it's ext it's Twitter. It's like calling I'm gonna
go get something xeroxed.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
I still call it Twitter?

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Do you know? It's just what what you do? I mean,
there's still people that won't call Actucer Stadium acrocur Stadium
right right right.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
I almost said that. I'm like, I'll get in trouble
if I say that. But it's.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
So I put the pull out or the questions out earlier.
Batagm when people come around the bad signal out there.
So we got some questions here. Let's roll through some
of these here in the first hour. If Aaron Rodgers
doesn't sign in Sanders and Harmon slash Nolan are both there.
Who do you think Tomlin pushes for? And if he

(16:42):
does do the wrong choice and take Sanders, I wonder
who this person ones. Do you think the Steelers should
trade future picks to get back to Nolan or Harmon.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
That's why I think you take the d tackle and
you trade back to get a Millrow or a Shock
or something like that. Yeah, I don't know. If Rogers
doesn't sign, I think they'll be heavily in on Cousins
or car.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
I think they know. I think they know what's going
to happen. They know right, even though it's not leaked. No,
the Steelers aren't a leak organization. Some organizations are right right,
but they are not. And you know, I don't think
that scenario is going to happen. I think somebody will
have taken Sanders by pick twenty one.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
I think that as well. I think there's a really
good chance Starts gone by twenty one by the sound
of things too, which again I hope happens. To be
very honest with you, partially because I don't want I
also don't want all the naysayers three years from now,
when one of them ends up being a good quarterback, Williamson,
you were stupid. You should take them a twenty one,
which be the case. I actually do root for them.

(17:49):
I want them to be fine, but I think it's
some veteran, probably Rogers Rudolph, probably a late pick, you know,
I mean in a de tackle at round one.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
When evaluating the defensive tackles, how much do you factor
in the unit as a whole. For example, Grant, Harmon
and Nolan were all part of stacked defensive fronts, and
we're never the guy facing double teams. Also, do recent
Michigan bus Jenkins Maze Smith affect opinion on Grant, Well,
first of all, I don't know. It's still probably too

(18:24):
early to call Jenkins a maze Smith A, Yeah, it's definitely.
Frankins played one year and I think he.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Had some injuries last year, and he's gonna be a
starter for them this year, so let's see. I hadn't
realized this though. They've never had a defensive tackle in
my lifetime that's been a good, high quality player from Michigan.
I don't put too much into that.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
I don't either because people used to say, well, there's
big twelve quarterbacks never hit Hello Patrick the Big ten quarterbacks,
they don't work right by Tom Brady.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Right in Penn State as that thing going, and Hi
State had it forever too. Yeah maybe, I mean so,
I don't look too much into that, but I do
find it odd. As great as Michigan football has been
for our lifetime, there's not a prominent defensive tackle in
the league. It's had a good career. As for the stack,
that's a great question.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
It's it's been a question for years about Alabama and
Georgia players.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Right, I mean, the best d lineman go to a
handful of schools.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
Yeah, that's just the reality of it, you know. So
I look at it. We have tape of Harmon, for example,
playing somewhere else. We have tape of Nolan playing some
and Nolan's.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Nolan played good players too in A and M.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
You know Nolan. Yeah, I look at Nolan and say, well,
he went from Texas A and M, which had the
number one defensive line class in the nation that year,
and he was number one, was part of it. He
went to Mississippi. You're telling me he didn't get doubled
at Mississippi.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
Of course, But I do think you have to watch
the tape and realize, you know, if we were truly
doing this as a a scouting staff in the league,
you'd watch every one of their snaps right and be like, well,
how's he hold up against doubles? He doesn't get doubled
nearly as much someone like CJ. Weston Indiana is the
only show in town. Yeah, his job's harder, you know, Alexander,

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he's not playing against as good as O lines guys
like that. But you definitely have to factor it is.
You look at it, right, and there's no question. Yeah,
it's definitely a factor. Those guys have edge dudes that
the backs are helping or you.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Know, so here's a question. Steelers thirty visits are often,
but not always, indicators of the team's interest in a place. Yeah, yes,
can you break down all confirm players by position if
you think the player is a good fit and if so,
roughly what round would the Steelers would target them? Well,
we're not going to do that now because they've still
got more visits. Yeah yeah, I mean they're only like

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twenty three.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Now and we've brought up a bunch of them.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, as they've as they've come through, and we.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Also kind of addressed this in the first segment that
I think a lot of these first rounders are not
going to be considered it twenty one.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, I don't think so either.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Have been in.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Steelers are doing a lot of homework on quarterbacks. Have you, gentlemen,
tried a mock draft that prioritizes selecting quarterbacks in round
one and two, assuming a slight trade down in round one.
We've done it a lot, we have, but we haven't. Moment.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
You and I don't jump on Dart at twenty one.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
No, no, because we just don't. We don't like that
player at that spot.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, I don't like that pick. Yeah, I mean we
could try it one time, force ourselves to take Dart
at twenty one.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Pretty.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
The rest won't be nice.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
The rest is not pretty. Yeah, they really won't. I mean,
we've done this basically the same thing by taking a
running back at times in the first round, and it's
not It just doesn't work out as well, it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
I mean, the path of least resistance or best results
always starts to tackle.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
If the team trades back or somehow gets another Day
two pick, is there a position to look at or
just best available? Well, I think if you're trading to
get another Day two pick. I think you like one
of those running backs, or there's a defensive lineman there
that you got to have, or you want to get
a quarterback.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah, I mean where they have six picks as we speak,
they probably at most will get the seven. I mean,
I don't think they're going to get eight or nine
and one or two of those late rounders. I'm not
going to prioritize for a specific spot. No, so you
probably end up with four or five picks where you're
looking at it, of these are where they're going to go.
At least one's going to be D line, at least

(22:22):
one's going to be running back. A second D line
I think is absolutely possible. An no linement of some sort.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
We've taken cornerbacks, Yeah, I say a corner or receiver
is a maybe you know, and then I don't see receiver.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
You don't think they'd pick one period? I don't think so, Yeah, surprise.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Me not high. Any updates on Cameron Johnston's rehab. Will
there be a battle at the punter position or is
it his to lose if he's healthy? Well, I've seen
Cameron Johnston a lot around the facility. H he is healthy.
Mike Tomlin was asked about that at the at the
meetings two weeks ago now and said he's healthy as well.

(23:03):
It's Cameron Johnston's job.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Yeah, he's phenomenal. Yeah, and Weightman did really well. It
was nicer than you could expect. But Johnston's better. Yeah,
he's under contract. He was signed for a reason. He
looked great before the injury. He was super impressive at camp.
I think he upgraded a punter too. I mean, we
often talked about last year's rookie class coming in even
get anything out of Well, you also have a semi

(23:25):
close to a Pro Bowl punter coming back, you know, right?

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Yeah? R J. Porio says, not a question. But I
love the show. Haven't missed the show in legitimately two years.
Thanks for all the great insight and honest opinions on
the team here. That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, I appreciated that. Me exclamation point. Are Ian's comfortable
with Mason being quarterback? One with a vet like Flacco
or Wentz? Is the backup? Both of those guys are signed,
are they not? Now?

Speaker 3 (23:55):
I'm not sure about Wentz?

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Black signed today? Uh?

Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yeah, No for me.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
No, I'm not comfortable with that at all. We have
enough talent to have a top five offensive line this year.
Top five is pretty lofty, I would say lofty. Probably
not if you can get into the top twelve, you know,
ten to twelve okay yeah yeah yeah. And finally, best
Sheets mto item.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
I don't hit there enough.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
I stop at Sheets every day because they just built
one down the road from my house on my way here.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
But you're not getting Sammy so not.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Usually if if I get something in the morning on
my way to the facility, I'll get like a cream
cheeste bagel.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
I mean bit Johnstown that we'd run the sheets. Yeah,
that was a late night thing, very good campus, a
ton of stuff to pick from either.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Yeah, it wasn't like it is now.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Right, and that was like revolutionary for the day. Yeah,
I remember. There's a guy that I'm open to suggestions though,
if anyone wants to say, try this at sheets, I'll try.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Guy that I worked with in Washington, Mark Lazarus. I
think he works for the Chicago Sun Times now covers
the Blackhawks, and he moved here from New York to
come work at the Observer Reporter and I kept telling
him like, look, you got to stop at sheets and
get the mt O. I can't. It's gas station food.
I'm like, it's not gas station food. And then after

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about four or five months, when me telling it kept
telling him that he had to stop at chet, he
finally stopped at the sheets. Now when he comes back
to Pittsburgh to visit, he goes to Sheets specifically every
single time.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
We're a commercial here for Sheets fan, I like all
those you know, now you travel more than I do.
But yeah, gas station food has come along.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
With you're not gas station hitting the button and then
opening the door, right Sam, which has been in there.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
For four the US. Right now there's actual good cold cuts,
et cetera. Open tell me your favorite Sheets orders.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
I'll give a shot, Dan asked, since it gets mentioned
frequently per p PFF. The most likely trade down partners
of the Packers twenty three and eighty seven, the Texans
twenty five and seventy nine, the Bills at thirty and
fifty six, the Chiefs at thirty one, sixty three, and
sixty six at twenty one. One of the better wide
receivers or ots might be enticing enough, are your marks better?

(26:14):
When the Steelers trade down a so freaking lootly almost
always every time.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, I mean because of the extra pick, but you
often get your dude in a trade down too that
you would have taken. However, I'm leaning towards I like
all three of those defensive tackles, there's no question. But
I think just in the last forty eight hours or so,
I think Grants might clear third, just because I think

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the Bill doesn't go quite as well. And I know
he's not a true nose, but I like him a lot.
Those other guys just influenced the passing game more now,
you know, as a situational pass rusher in twenty twenty
five contribution, I think ideally, and it would worry me
if Nolan has already gone.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
A city is an interesting one, and I mentioned yesterday
the Chiefs potentially taking a tight end in the first
round and taking the third tight end the yeah yah round.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
But what if they can get Loveland.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, what if Colston Loveland is there and they've got
those two they got to pick sixty three and sixty
six and they say, you know what, we want to
get in before the Chargers get them, keep them out
of the division. That would add up, we're going trade
up with the Steelers, get Colston Loveland. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Away from the Chargers, you move back ten spots, You
move back ten, get the second if not more.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
You're getting in one of those second round but draft picks.
Whether it's sixty three or sixty six, I don't care
which one. And I'm still going to get potentially who
I wanted to get at twenty one, and I get
that second round draft pick.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
I throw one other team at you too, because no
one's really talking about the Lions. We always just kind
of brush over their pick when we do a mock draft.
That's usually on edge. Sometimes it's a guard or whatever.
But they're a really aggressive organization. They have quite the
history of trading up with this regime. And if the
edge rushers start going and there's one they love, or

(27:54):
maybe it's a Connerly or I keep thinking about Simmons.
The Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Tak is a wild card in this STrenD.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yeah, because Decker's up in age he did and you
get a franchise left tackle.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Simmons did position workouts at the Ohio State Pro.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
Date, so he's back doing stuff.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Yeah, it's just a question of is he going to
be ready for the regular season or will he be
ready for training camp?

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, okay, because I'm sure the Lions the way they're
built in their philosophy is they want to keep a
strength of strength on the O line. And maybe that's
just not sitting there waiting at the end of the
first round.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
But the Chiefs to me or the want to make
it great chiefs are one. Because they have those two
second round picks. Could they move thirty one and say
sixty six knowing that they still have sixty three or
vice versa, Yeah, or something, say hey, we're still going
to have a second round draft pick. We're going to
go get the guy that we want, guy that we need. Yeah,
we really the big time dude. Yeah, that's a great one.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Some other trade downs or Minnesota and Atlanta though they
need picks. Yeah, they're the ones that need pick.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah. During the Josiah Jones asked during the Aaron Rodgers visit,
does anybody know if he tried to super Steelers soon?

Speaker 3 (28:57):
I saw that one. I haven't been told he's crazy
not to.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
On Tuesday and they had the beef Barley, which is
my personal face. That's your number one, Huh. It's good.
They make a great beef barley soup. Tyler, do you
have a favorite?

Speaker 3 (29:13):
The Steeler soup, Super Steel soup, Oh, the super legendary.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
You're missing it.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
You may not have been around, but I went on
my Supersteero super rant. It's gonna they're gonna sell it
all over and supply they.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Do a lot of good soups, right, you know. And
then Mike Pursuit they also had the stuffed pepper, and
Pursued is a huge fan of that, so he had
the stuffed pepper and as I was eating, they're.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
High on both of your lists. I didn't. I didn't
sup it up.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
This to the wedding. Great clam chowders great, All the
chowders are the bisks, all that stuff. The bisc is unbelievable.
It's like being in a five star restaurant with their soups.
So my answer to the question is he must not
have or he would have signed by now that's true.
Or maybe he's not a soup guy. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Maybe super Steero Soup, the Supersteeos eat, the Benefiting Pittsburgh
Suit Kitchen, make it happen to you.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Oh, Michael Odessos, if when Rogers assigned, who's going to
be his short yardage slash underneath? Guy love DK and Pickens.
But it's not their strength, Nor is Calvin. Nor is
it Calvin Austin's seems like a lot of trust put
on Roman Wilson. Is there a free agent to bring
in or maybe a wide receiver like Estrepo? How much
tight ends?

Speaker 3 (30:21):
I say, I'm screaming for Friarmoth.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Friar mooth, and I think that's the kind of receiver
that Wilson is.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Yeah. I also, especially once Rogers signs in the draft goes,
I might just call keenan Allen, maybe, what do you
want on a one year deal? You know, you're a
lot different than the dus we have, You're a veteran,
Come play with Rogers.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
Guys are both cow guys, even though at the same time,
I don't think it'd be expensive. He doesn't play a
ton of snaps, so not in three receiver sets a lot,
but dude runs routes. Yeah, we'll get to one more
here before we get to the break. What's your guys
draft coverage schedule look like for the actual draft? Well,
we're at the Steelers facility we're over at the up

(31:03):
MC Sports Complex, and largely we are on the radio
the entire time. I am on, although I have to
I have some writing duties that I got to do
in things of that nature. How these guys fit with
the team that will go up on Steelers dot Com.
But we'll be on there. Mike Pursudo will be on there.
Jerry Duleck will be on there. Rank Rob Kings on
the schedule for this year.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
I don't know the schedule like the back of my hand,
and I don't know the hours we start. Yeah, but
if there's coverage, I will be on the air.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
West Rulers uh there with us. Tom Offerman's coming down
for some for some stuff.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Now we'll have it covered.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Max Starks is going to be in Green Bay. Oh
is it going stuff for I believe ESPN. I wonder
if he'll remotely join us here and there.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Probably not.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
If he's going to be on the air the entire time,
I don't. Oh, okay, he's not part of our coverage.
But agree, I got you, I don't. We were talking
about that at the when we were at the meetings,
like a couple of weeks ago, and I'm like Max,
I don't envy you having to go to Green Bay
for the draft for this weekend, right like that, the
population of Green Bay is going to swell by three times.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Yeah, people renting out their kids bed there are not
enough rooms, the tents and pop up trailers and stuff
like that.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
People are going to be staying all over the place. Yeah,
it's going to be nuts.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
Yeah, but no, we will have you guys covered like crazy.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah, and again I'm tuned into the usually don't miss
a minute. You can either listen through Steelers Nation Radio.
You can listen on the app. You can also listen
on the you know through iHeart on the nine to
seventy Fox Sports Pittsburgh as well. But we have wald
to wall draft coverage, talk about every pick, make our
picks as they're coming up, who we would take in

(32:41):
those situations. So, yeah, break it all down, break it
all down. We even get we get players who come in,
we get coaches that, you know, after they make the pick,
they come and sit down with us.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
With us or you know, even coordinators or coach Donlin
or whoever. We've had mister Rooney on during the draft.
We've had Joey Porter the day after he got picks
comes in joy at.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
A lot of the players come in and sit down
with where they'll call in immediately after making a pick,
which did lead to some like when they took Bud
Dupree in the first round back in twenty fifteen. I
think it was twenty fifteen. They'll run together now, but maybe, yeah,
I think it was. And I was talking about how
I didn't like the pick because I didn't like his

(33:22):
instincts at the Thomas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is not
a day. Remember this is going to help you right away.
This he's a developmental player in the first round.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
It took him a while.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
We get to think, oh, he's on the phone right now,
and I'm.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Like, okay, you know, but welcome.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Yeah, it's probably listening to me going this diet tribe values.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
And that's not the great pick it turned out.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
I mean, not that it wasn't a good pick, but
I said it was going to take time for him
to develop into what they needed him to be in
that project. That turned out to be the case. It
was absolutely which kind of like Samar Stewart to be honest.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Yeah, there's some similarities there too. Yeah, I mean Stewart
doesn't make many plays in the run game, right, I mean,
it's not like this sack. Only his run stuff so
questionable too.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Yeah, but let's get to a break. We'll get back
to more questions when we return. He is Matt Williamson.
I am Dale LOLLI. You're listening to the Drive here
on the Steelers Audio Network.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson
on your twenty four to seven home of the Black
and Gold car Steelers Nation Radio.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
And we are back. I'm Dale Lolly here with the
Matt Williamson and we're rolling through some of my questions
here on the next Twitter and Dakota Smith asked, would
you trade into the top ten to draft Sanders? If so,
what would that cost? And I would not do that.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
I wouldn't think you can consider.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
It largely, not just because I don't think he's a
top ten player. If you identify him as the quarterback,
that's fine, But to move into the top ten from
where they're at now, from twenty one and you don't
have a second round pick already, right right, you're trading
future picks, probably your future one.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
I'd say, probably a future one, or a bevy of
you know your three this year, two.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Next year.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
Right, I absolutely would not. Now, I am a huge believer.
If there's one you adore, it doesn't matter what the
cost is, right, No one cared what the Chiefs paid
to get my homes, you know, I mean, or the
Buffalo traded up to get Alan. I just don't see
that in this draft.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
Yeah, I don't see that kind of Yeah talent there.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
I mean, I have a hard enough time taking them.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
At twenty one, Joe Marcusik asks, you guys are my
favorite Steelers podcast? Well, thank you for that. Nice What
do you think of TJ wats Instagram post of him
in a Steelers uniform holding up two fingers like he's
saying peace. I think has more much to do about nothing.
But what say you? Well, I covered that in today's
five for Furday. At the end of the season, he

(35:51):
said he wants to retire, he wants to be part
of the solution here with the Steelers, wants a new
you know, he wants to be here. Just two weeks
ago at the owners meetings, both Mike Tomlin and Omar conson, Yeah,
no question. So I do think it's much Nobody knows.
There were no there were no words there with the
instagram no, Right, it could have been any number of

(36:13):
things that he just put an Instagram post about. Right,
people try to read into things you.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Know better than me. But I think he's a man
of few words. Yeah, I mean to say the least.
And I heard some people say speculating they have a
second child on the way.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
I don't know. I mean it could be any number
of things, right, Yeah, you just don't know. And speculation
about well he wants a new contract, and it sparked
the whole thing. Is he worth forty million dollars? You're
worth whatever somebody is willing to pay you.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Yeah, yeah, it's a going rate.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
The cap is going rate going up like crazy, right,
and it's not your money that you know. Would you
pay TJ wat forty million dollars? That's a silly question
because how many people out there that you're asking that
question to have forty million dollars? Right? It really just
comes down to what percentage of the.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Cap do you think he's worth?

Speaker 1 (36:57):
That's the big thing, right, what percentage I bet is
his next contract will be a smaller percentage of the
cap than this one, right, because the CAP's going up
so cap has gone up incredibly. It's annie asked. If
Rogers decides not to sign or is still undecided, is
there any impact on the Steelers drafting a quarterback this year? Also,
if they give me an eight carret diamond ring and

(37:19):
a prenup, giving me everything, please let the Steelers know
that I am all in. She was listening yesterday, good stuff,
and we appreciate that. I think that they know what
Aaron Rodgers is going to do, and I don't think
it impacts necessarily what the Steelers do at quarterback this
year in terms of the draft. They're going to probably

(37:40):
draft one at some point because they're going to have
a fourth quarterback in camp, you know. I just think
that they know what's going to go on with Rogers
here and they have a pretty good idea.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
That's my hunch as well. And I don't think that
decision should change the way. I mean, you're great.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Still, you still view these guys right right.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
It shouldn't change at all, whether no Ben walks through
those doors or mahomes or you have nothing, you know,
I mean, it's still the grades of grade and are
they worth it?

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah? Scotty p says, which of these two options. Do
you like better Jaln Milroe in the first round or
will Howard in the third round? Both are rich to me? Yeah,
I mean to me, Milroe might be the answer.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Howard to me is very Rudolph asked, a little bit
better Athleteward.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
I have less of a problem with Howard in the
third round. I guess I don't love either because I
think you're only giving you know, you're you're talking about
the difference between you know, two mid round draft picks.
As oppose Jalen Milroe in the first round it picked
twenty one, right.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
I think both are too rich. Yeah, and Howard doesn't
really blow my scart up either. To be honest with you,
I think he's a good player in the right system,
a facilitator, really good from the neck up. But I
think he's a Rudolph Lake.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
I think he's a better athlete, better butter player.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
But I bet that's his career path.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
You know, Heshian says. With the Brown signing Flacco, and
my guess is drafting Milrow either at thirty three or
moving up a little. Kenny Pickett's head explode on the
thought of actually having to compete again.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Maybe maybe I mean the league. The league's telling us
what you think of Picket. I mean that they think
he's a two or you know, I would imagine Flacco's
the leader in the clubhouse to start over.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Him, thank you point, you know, I mean he started
games for them in the past, and they were.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
Kenny frankly doesn't Mike most quarterbacks doesn't have any right
to complain. He's competing for a job, right, You're just.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Trying to at this point hold on, you know. Andrew
Quakowski asks, can you see TJ watch extension coming in
or above forty million dollars a year? Seems to be
the talk around the media, But don't know if that's
just agents speak, what speculation based on what Miles Garrett got,
ye and what Micah Parsons is going to get.

Speaker 3 (39:54):
Parcels will get more than both, Yes, based on age.
I mean he's worth.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
More, right, but that's you know, the going rate is
to go.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yeah, yeah, it's just the cost of doing business. It'll
be in that neighborhood, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Yeah, I don't know if it's going to be above
forty million dollars a year, but.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
That was in that raunch. I would be in that range.
He's about the same age as Garrett. He's, you know,
the same level player.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
That came out in the same draft, in the same draft.
I mean, yeah, yeah, So maybe it's structured different. You know,
where the money kicks in and where the bonus is
and all that. You know, yeah, there are bonuses that
push things different ways.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
Where's the guaranteed money and all that, but it should
be in that neighborhood. He's one of the best players.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Like steel Warrior fifty five asked question to both, what's
your favorite Steeler's memory or moment. I'm gonna do us
a long time. M hmm, what's my favorite moment of
the last thirty three years?

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Like mine is I was very young. I was like
seven or eight years old, and we were going to
Disneyland and for whatever reason, the Steelers were in the
terminal on their way to San Francisco and that was the.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Year that they were the only feet the Niners.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Yeh, yeah, this is like early early eighties, whatever sounds
about right. I've been ten or eleven in that neighborhood
and Jack Lambert was on crutches with his turf toe,
and I went up to him and asked him, we're
an autograph, and he said say please, and almost foot
myself and then he signed it and then he went
on a one. So that I'll go with that For

(41:21):
my favorite memory.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with this one. So
it's my first training camp in ninety three and we're
standing out in front of the old dorms and at
that point, all the media, everybody, we all stayed in
that same dorm. So Mike Persuda, who was at that
time probably twenty six twenty seven years old, he was,
he's a few years older than me. Uh. The Steelers

(41:42):
had drafted three Michigan State guys Jim Miller and Pursuita
pulls up into in his Toyota Celica. It was a
nice Yeah, it was a convertible Toyota Celica, but it
was a Toyota Celica. Yeah, pulls up in front of
it in the front of the dorms to unload his stuff.
At that point, it was it was reporting day. He
starts unloading his stuff and his Pursuita will do He's

(42:04):
wearing all of his Michigan State gear, sure, which he does.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
And one of the photographers was a long time ago,
A long time ago. Yeah, it's important note for the story.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
One of the photographers who was there shooting for somebody
I don't even know, who might have been the Latrobe
bulletin or something like that, who doesn't cover the team
on a regular basis, runs out and starts shooting pictures
of pursuita unloading his stomach of his car because he
thought he was.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Jim Mller right, the next quarterback, right, And we.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Were all just chuckling about it, this pursuit of which
I had known Mike from before before I started covering
the team. We had a mutual friend and so we
had we'd had beers a couple of times before that.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
But yeah, and I can't stress enough that this is
a long time ago to make the believability of this.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Back in the days when I was still mistaken for
a player, when I was walking Dound campus, you know,
they just people saw a young, somewhat fit you, right, yeah,
bigger kind of guy, and they said, you know, and
I know sometimes you know, take the photos of me
next to you and Max for example, that two weeks ago,
people well they al must be a little guy. No,
I'm six one and one hundred and ninety five. Everybody

(43:09):
looks small, Max, but that that's one of my favorites.
That's a good one. Yeah, first one that you know.
I can also remember interviewing Jerome Bettis in front of
the same dorms and he's up against the wall with
his with looking out over the fields and the Blue
Angels came over. That's cool, and you couldn't hear them.
You saw them before you heard them, because they're they're moving.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
It soon, you know, because they're moving so fast.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
And they were doing a show at the La Trobe
at the Yeah, at the air. Yeah, they're coming in
information upside down, I believe, right at us like this.
You couldn't hear him, and all of a sudden, Jerome's
eyes went boom because they're coming right at us.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
That's a pretty cool memory.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
And then you heard them as they went over. It's
like whoa.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
Yeah, there's some Sharky's memories. I probably won't throw.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
A few of those. Two. Yeah, that I'm not going
to mention on here. Carmstrong ass. Let me start by saying,
I love the show and the insights you both offer.
You're both very knowledgeable and I don't miss a show. Well,
we appreciate that. With that said, can you please stop
interrupting Matt? I dare you to listen to your shows
and count the number of times you interrupt him. I
think I interrupt you. It's funny because a lot of
people complain about both of us interrupting each other.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
I've had a million co hosts, and you're still my
favorite of my podcasting radio career. And I always think
one of my bigness weaknesses I interrupt my my co
host too often.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
We both I think it's just being excited. We do
so many shows together. It's just you know, and we
talk off the air and text each other just I
have a lot of the same thoughts and me.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Just spit them out whenever we're ready.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
I always try to make this and have done it
since the show started. Conversational. Yeah, Like Matt and I
are sitting at the bar talking. That's that's what we
do with the show. Ye.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
So you know, I've got a lot of feedback along
those lines too. It's like you guys are just kind
of hanging out at Charky's.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
You know, that's what the show is supposed to be about. Yeah. Yeah,
A lot of times we don't. I don't script anything out.
We just we just oh and talk like we would have,
like we're having a normal conversation. Hi, guys, says Chris Maxwell.
If you had to rank the Steelers OC's starting from
Todd Haley until present, how would you rank them? In
my opinion, Haley is clearly number one, and it's not
even close. Arthur Smith is next to last, with him

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barely ranking above Canada. Well, I disagree with that.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Canada would be last.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
I mean there's only.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Been Fourner, Canada, Smith, Haley. Yeah, okay, I would probably
go Haley, Smithner Canada.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
I think I would go the same way we have.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
One year of Judge Smith, they.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
Averaged almost five points a game more than what they are.
I guess you could throw Eddie Faulkner and you know
that as well, but they averaged almost five points more
per game this past season than they had the previous season.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
I'd be a heck a lot better coordinator with Ben
in his prime. Then that helps a lot too, with
Duck Hodges too. Ab right, Yeah, a young Juju and
Vi on Bell And I'm not avoiding the subject just
to like be PC, but judging any assistant coach is
really hard from even where we sit. Yeah, I mean,
so much happens behind the walls.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
Matt to say the psycho a Cicco, I should say,
asks excluding Rogers, as there one current free agent out
there that each of you guys could think would still
be a good signing for the Steelers. I think you've
mentioned it with Keenan Allen.

Speaker 3 (46:24):
Yeah, something I'd be interested in certainly be one that
would be I've brought up JK. Dobbins a few times, Chubb.
I'm sure there's a corner or a tight end or
somebody that's super cheap that's going to be hanging around
that you might want to throw in a camp or
maybe another offensive lineman.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
You know. He also says, keep up the great work
into the trolls. Maybe you can challenge them to a
spelling beat spelling contest. But you know, I get to
what you're saying there. Matt Short Junior says, favorite thing
about working together and least favorite thing about working together.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
I'm a fan of it.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Yeah, I mean we enjoy it. I mean Matt and I,
even though we went to our same college, Matt and
I did not know each other no before we started
doing the show together, and I consider Matt one of
my good friends. Now, yeah, you know, we work together
every day, and maybe that's the thing that's that's the
least favorite thing about doing this, is it we do
this every day. There's a lot and there are some

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times of the year where it gets a little different.
We see each other and it's not like I'm unhappy
to see you, but all right, let's go see Sean
Fagus says, all the quarterback talk has become tiresome. If
Rogers throws a curve and ends up retiring, how much
does that change the Steelers draft strategy after.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
They first round? Y?

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Yeah, over that? How different? Ask Gasper Echos? How different
is this year's quarterback? This year's pre draft quarterback chatter
from twenty twenty two and pundits were discussing Milik will
Willis and Desmond Ritter's first round picks. Is it possible
that only one quarterback will be drafted in the first round.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
It's possible, It's possible, But I think this class is
noticeably better than that one.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Yeah, And I think if you look back, and I.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
Mean no one's going one, I mean that makes it
different already.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
If you look back at that draft as well in
twenty twenty two. There were fewer teams at that point
that had a real true need quarterbacks, so they were
I mean, if there had been five or six teams
that needed quarterback, that had to have a quarterback that year,
maybe those guys would have gone higher.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
And it's not because they flopped, but I'll take Milroe
or Shuck over that version of Ritter or Willis or
certainly Corral And I think it was lost about that
class is Everyone's like it was only for one first
round quarterback and it was all the way at twenty
there was no second round quarterbacks, right zero. Yeah, I
mean you even have a hard time convincing me that if

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Milroe is still around the second round, he doesn't go.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
And most of those guys all started off as backups,
all of them, None of them started from day one
because nobody really needed, right, they weren't high petted, you guys,
and that that's a bad class. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Nas Costco asked what is the most shocking pick you
can remember remember from the Steelers in the last fifteen years? Shocking?

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Edmunds took me a back.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
I had heard some buzz about him in the days,
in the days leading maybe even the hours.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Yeah to the draft that this am so focused, include
myself on vander ash and Roque one. That was the
linebacker draft and they all went, say yeah, they all went,
they were all gone.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Who are other ones? I think Ziggi Hoobe was kind
of a surprise to me just because he didn't that's
that was close eight. That's that's the timeframe. Maybe nine. Yeah,
oh eight was men that Hall, which was kind of
a surprise as well.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Yeah, I mean it's a stupid one, but like a Wolokon,
I didn't see them taking a second quarterback.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
By the seventh. Then I packed through it.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
And I mean there's some of those. I'm sure you're
talking about early pick.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Yeah. We got two questions left here. This is another
one from nas Costco. If shuck falls around four, main
because of age, do you sprint to turn the card
in Yeah, yeah, yeah, unless you've already taken one, but
at that point you may have already taken shock. I
would sprint it in round three. Yeah. And then finally,
Joey Baggadnut says, if they draft a wide receiver this year,
would that mean they have no faith in Roman Wilson

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being a contributor anytime soon.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Depends where they take him, And I don't know it's
a direct reflection on nothing. No matter what they do.
I mean, even if they would end up with Betch
or Ilumina or or someone like that, that's a lot
different style. Yeah, Yon day two. That doesn't mean they
think Wilson's a boster can't play.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
No, No, I don't think they'll take a receiver that
looks like him though. No, they're not going to take
another one that's it's in the same mold as Austin
and Wilson. Right, you're not taking its pure slot.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Right, Like I don't think Noel was that. I think
he's more.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Austin can play outside too, right, He's shown that. But
I don't know if Wilson can play outside because I
haven't seen it. He did in college.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
There's nothing they could do in the draft that would
make me think, oh, they think Roman Wilson stinks. No,
you know what I mean, Yeah, unless they drafted three
of them or something that would signal that. But anyways,
that's some good questions on there.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Once again, we appreciate those keep trying to do that
here as the year goes on if I remember to
send it out on Thursdays.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
But let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.
I'm Dale Lolly. That's going to do it for our
number one of the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.
Matt and I'll be back with our number two right
after this