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Walter (00:00):
Welcome back to another
episode of Stepping in Faith,
where, together, we explore theimportance of having a
relationship with God and howthat relationship with God can
impact the relationship you havewith others.
I'm your host, walter.
I'm joined here alongside mylovely wife.
Shanea (00:14):
Shanea.
Walter (00:15):
This is episode don't
know 20.
Episode 20.
20.
You got that right out, huh.
So we are believers and welcomeback 20 episodes.
Eight more episodes to gobefore the season ends out.
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Yeah, eight more episodes.
How do you feel about that,babe?
Shanea (00:42):
It's actually been a
blessing, because I didn't think
we was going to make it thisfar.
Walter (00:51):
You didn't think we was
going to make it this far.
Shanea (00:53):
No, wow.
No, I didn't think we was goingto make it this far.
You thought we was just goingto quit in midway.
I don't know.
So it was hard to start.
It was Just in general it.
It was hard to start.
It was Just in general, it wasreally hard to start, so I'm
actually very proud of this.
Walter (01:11):
It is only by.
It's only by the grace of God,the grace of God that we have
been going this long, becausethere has been moments in time
and you know I don't like to bein front of a camera or anything
, I like to be behind the cameraSame.
So you know I don't like to bein front of a camera or anything
, I like to be behind the camerasame.
So you know this ain't me atall.
But to God be the glory.
The greatest thing is that it'sbeen being a blessing to others
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, so, and it's been blessing us.
Hearing how it's been blessingothers and then hearing the
stories of different people inthe comment section has been
been amazing so you okay yeah,okay, my eye is jumping a little
bit, I can't tellit's cool, you were just asking
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me what was wrong okay, so uh, Iguess do you want to open up in
prayer?
Did I pray last week?
Shanea (02:04):
I don't remember
actually I don't remember
anything that happened last week.
Walter (02:09):
I think I prayed.
Shanea (02:10):
Did you?
Walter (02:12):
Yes.
Shanea (02:13):
You sure?
Walter (02:14):
Positive.
Shanea (02:15):
Okay.
Maybe, I don't know, you sure.
Walter (02:20):
I did pray.
It's your turn, I remember now.
I did pray.
Shanea (02:23):
Okay.
Walter (02:23):
I had a little bit of a
long-winded prayer.
Shanea (02:26):
Okay, I don't remember,
but it doesn't matter.
Walter (02:31):
So we like to open up in
prayer and sometimes we forget
who prayed last, but I believeit was me, and my wife is an
amazing prayer warrior, so we'regoing to let her open us up in
prayer.
Shanea (02:47):
Sure, holy Spirit, we
invite you into this place.
We thank you, holy Spirit, forproviding us with guidance and
understanding.
We thank you, father, forallowing us to be a vessel and a
voice to others, to spread yourword boldly.
So we ask, father, god, thatyou will open up their ears and
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their eyes to hear and see yourheart.
In the mighty name of Jesus, wepray Amen.
Walter (03:17):
Amen.
That was a short prayer.
Shanea (03:19):
Was it.
Walter (03:20):
Yes.
Shanea (03:21):
It was a good prayer.
Walter (03:25):
It was short, though.
Okay, is it quiet?
Shanea (03:26):
Yes, it was a good
prayer.
It was short, though, okay.
Walter (03:27):
Is it quiet on the set?
Shanea (03:31):
Do you hear stuff?
Walter (03:32):
Maybe I hear the lights,
I hear something.
Shanea (03:35):
I don't hear anything.
Walter (03:36):
I hear everything.
It's my engineering ears fromback in the day.
So what is the name of thisweek's episode?
Hearing the voice of thisweek's episode hearing the voice
of god.
No pun intended.
Hearing the voice of god.
How did this come, come up?
Do you remember how this cameabout?
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Um me hearing the voice of godin the bathroom, possibly.
Shanea (04:03):
I think you were in the
shower, yeah.
Walter (04:07):
Possibly.
Shanea (04:09):
I think you were in the
shower and you called me
upstairs.
Walter (04:14):
I did yes, to tell you
about what God was saying to me.
Yes, I do that a lot.
Shanea (04:20):
Yes.
Walter (04:21):
You did.
Let's not start that, becausethey're going to say we're
arguing.
Lord, have mercy, listen,before we even get started on
this episode.
Please stop bleeding on us.
Please stop bleeding on us.
And Micah says something that'sso true.
Micah Turnbull, yeah, he's aprophet, and one of the things
he said is you need to bemindful of what you say about
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other people, because whateveryou say when you speak, negative
things the enemy literally willcome and vomit that up.
Demons will come and vomit thatup on that person that you're
speaking out against and,unfortunately, especially within
the body of Christ, there arepeople who are very religious
and they are very judgmental andthey are very judgmental, and
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so I would say please don'tspeak on things that you know
nothing of.
My wife and I, our marriage, isnot up for discussion.
We are here doing what God hastold us to do, and it's simply
because of that.
That's it.
We are absolutely fine with ourmarriage.
I love my wife, you love me,babe.
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I'm just saying I'm happy, I'mvery happy.
You may not understand ourchemistry sometimes because of
the type of relationship we have, but we like to have fun.
Shanea (05:38):
Yeah.
So sometimes, sometimes we justsarcastic, yeah, Like why are
you all?
Why are you all in my business?
Walter (05:45):
I'm a very sarcastic
person in the first place.
I have a very sarcastic familyand my family.
I remember us growing up andthey would just poke fun at each
other.
Shanea (05:55):
Oh yeah, and especially
I'm from up north, so we clown
each other all the time.
I come from a whole area ofjust clowning, so please don't
blame on us.
Walter (06:06):
Please get healed.
We have episodes, I believe,that we touched on healing,
bleeding, all of those differentthings.
Please listen to those episodesbecause I've seen some of the
comments in the comment sectionand it has not been good.
Shanea (06:18):
The assumptions is
ridiculous well, that's because
people um you interpret thingsfrom your, your own, your own
perception, that you have yourown perception of what um things
are or aren't, based off ofyour experiences true so if
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you're used to experiencingtrauma, you're going to see
trauma everywhere you know.
Walter (06:44):
Which is not good.
Shanea (06:46):
No, it's not.
Walter (06:47):
It's not good at all, so
things will trigger you.
Shanea (06:51):
If you're watching
something or you're hearing
something and it's triggeringyou, you got to go to God and
say God, why is this triggeringme?
Yeah, and what you're sayingmight be true or it might not be
.
Walter (07:03):
Most likely, it's not.
You just got to be careful, andI don't understand this.
Shanea (07:10):
But my thing is, what
even compels people to just
comment?
Walter (07:17):
It's the generation that
we're in.
Shanea (07:19):
And I think it's because
people don't respond back to
people that they feel like theycan just comment Like I can't
see your comment, yeah, it'slike.
Walter (07:29):
And the thing that we're
saying, and the reason we're
saying this, is that itself initself can become a distraction
to others, or you can allow theenemy to distract you from what
God is wanting you to hearExactly.
And this is not for everyone.
This is for a remnant.
Shanea (07:42):
We're not here for the
majority, we're here for a
remnant.
Walter (07:46):
We're not here for the
majority, we're not.
We're here for the remnant,literally.
So please stop, please stop umspewing um hate and negative
words on our marriage, please.
We're asking that you stop that.
If you don't have anythingpositive to say and if you don't
feel like this is for you, youcould simply keep scrolling like
you don't even have to commentit.
Shanea (08:07):
I've seen one comment
and it was like the first few
minutes I thought they werearguing and I couldn't even
continue to watch this, so Imight not watch it at all.
And it's like well, why do youeven comment?
Why you know?
Walter (08:21):
what people be doing.
Shanea (08:22):
Why are you here?
Walter (08:23):
don't let the enemy
distract you, because we're not
going to stop having ourrelationship the way that we
have it, and I love my wife, Irespect my wife, I submit to my
wife, um, and I honor my wife,and so and also this is this is
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our house, this is our couch.
Shanea (08:46):
Yeah, we are.
We have invited you into ourhome every single week.
Yes.
Walter (08:50):
Because God told us to.
Shanea (08:52):
Yes.
Walter (08:53):
It was.
It was a struggle.
Shanea (08:54):
We have invited you so
welcome.
For that disclaimer.
Walter (08:58):
Let's get started, babe.
I saw a comment and there'sbeen quite a few comments that,
especially on that one aboutmarriages and a lot of people
want to know the million dollarquestion is this person that I'm
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with for me or not?
And I think this episode isespecially important and I hope
people listen to it.
Hearing the voice of God Now,this is.
There is also the differentways that God speaks, but we're
not talking about that this week.
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We're literally talking abouthearing the voice of God.
So one of the things to thinkabout is this right here, right,
sometimes we believe thathearing the voice of God is
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limited to pastors or prophetsor apostles or leaders, and we
don't understand that, if we arebelievers, we should be able to
hear God's voice for ourselves.
Because how do we go throughoutlife without hearing the Father
, how do we go throughout lifewithout communicating with Jesus
(10:19):
, without allowing the HolySpirit to reveal truths to us
and revelations to us?
And so sometimes, babe, what doyou think about that?
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Because I'm about to gosomeplace and I'm about to dive
right in.
Shanea (10:43):
What do I think about
what what?
I just said because I'm aboutto go someplace and I'm about to
dive, right in.
Walter (10:44):
What do I think about
what?
What I just said, our idea ofit only being the pastor or the
prophet that can hear God'svoice.
Shanea (10:52):
No, I think you're right
.
And when I was going throughthe comments, people were like,
what you're saying is heresy,this isn't in the Bible and
where is the scripture at forwhat you're saying?
And's like well, why do you goto church?
Because they don't just quotescripture.
Your preachers don't just quotescripture, they don't.
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They give you theinterpretation of the word,
which is what we did, is what wedo?
What we do is give you theinterpretation of the word,
because we we have the spirit ofthe lord in us that can help
you have the holy spirit thatand that's one of the ways that
you speak to is throughrevelation right.
So because we we have the holyspirit dwelling in us, he can
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interpret, he can help usinterpret what the word is
saying, because the bible is amystery.
You can't just read scripturewithout the holy spirit yeah,
because it's we.
Walter (11:44):
We talked about this in
one of the earlier episodes and
this was from Apostle Selmanearlier on.
There is the historical aspectof the Bible, there is a
theological aspect of the Bibleand there is the Spirit, and so
a lot of people they believe thehistorical.
We have evidence showcasingthat different events in the
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Bible has taken place, but theyonly get as far as a theological
perspective Bible school,seminary and all those things.
Yet the meat of the word liesin being able to interpret the
scripture by way of the Spirit.
Without that, you are missingout on what the Bible really is.
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At that point you're at mostjust reading something and going
based off of a man'sinterpretation, which could be
challenging, because we knowthat, depending on where you are
are you can if your soul istainted, you could misinterpret
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from a tainted soul or even atainted spirit.
So, um, this is good.
Right here, I can't see you'refine no, it's okay, it's just
bothering me.
We speak against the enemy.
It's just just distractions.
What time is it 1124?
Shanea (13:06):
Yeah, it's almost.
Walter (13:07):
It's not one, two and
when, like so we're talking
about hearing the voice of Godand we're not going to get
sidetracked.
But so there's also sensingwhat's taking place in the
spirit, so you could see throughvisions.
Sometimes I'll see throughvisions.
Sometimes I'll see with myactual eyes what's going on.
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Sometimes, through dreams, Ican sense it, I can hear.
There was times that I prayedand I could hear the demons
screaming in my ear as I wasgoing through battle and warfare
, as you kind of go throughdifferent things.
But you know my wife she canfeel what is taking place.
Shanea (13:54):
God has given me a very
sensitive gift of discernment.
Where I can smell, I can smell.
I have certain smells, like inthe bible, and and I think I'm
probably jumping ahead a littlebit but um, in the bible they
said jesus christ, he, you know,he has a smell, he has a scent.
Walter (14:16):
Um, and if you ever
smell the scent of god, it is
amazing yeah, it's like it'sunexplainable sweet aroma, right
they're probably gonna thinkwe're crazy, but it is an
amazing scent but there's sense.
Shanea (14:29):
So, like if I don't know
.
This sounds crazy, but I knowI'm not the only one.
Who, who smell, who has a senseof smell?
I think, um, even um, stephanieikey.
She talks about it in her dreambook, about the different ways
God speaks, or the differentwhat's the name of her?
Book.
It's called the Power of yourDreams.
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Okay.
And I think she kind of breaksdown how God can speak to you.
And so I'm a feeler.
I have a very sensitive gift ofdiscernment.
Feeler have a a very sensitivegift of discernment which and I
use all my god has given me um agift that I can sense things
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through all my senses.
So I I sense stuff through myactual physical body, so like if
there is a, so I can like sensethe presence of the enemy or I
could sense the presence ofdemons yeah, um, because
something will start.
I'll start twitching, or notbecause I have demons, but
because of the atmosphere, right, and so, um, or I'll get like
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poking or stuff like that, or II can smell.
I'll smell different smells,like vomit or tobacco or
different perfumes or certainweird smells, and I'll ask the
Holy Spirit and he'll tell meexactly what it is.
And then I'll go and I'll I'mlike, has anybody else ever had
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this before?
And I'll look and I'll findother people that's going
through the same thing.
I can see well, sometimes withmy natural eye, but with my
spiritual eye I don't even know.
Walter (16:12):
Don't go too deep,
because this is something we're
going to dig into later on.
Shanea (16:16):
But I can see visions.
So I see visions, I have dreams, and God speaks to me audibly
and through scripture.
Walter (16:24):
And so these are just
the different ways that God
speaks to me audibly and throughscripture.
And so that's, these are justthe different ways that God
speaks to us.
And so, getting it started off,I want to start off here.
What if there and this issomething that I want to I want
everyone to think about what ifthe reason we struggle to hear
God isn't because he isn'tspeaking, but because we haven't
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learned how to be still or howto be close?
And so, to really dig into this, let's look at 1 Corinthians 2,
verse 10 through 15.
We're also going to look at 1samuel 3, 1 through 2, and john
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15, verse 4 through 10.
So can you get to, uh, firstsamuel 3, 1 through 2 for me,
and I'll get to firstcorinthians.
We're going to get into a fewscriptures tonight.
Shanea (17:20):
Uh, let me see you want
me to go to what I?
I'm sorry.
Walter (17:24):
First, samuel, 3, 1
through 2.
And I'm going to go to 1Corinthians, 2, 10 through 5.
Shanea (17:32):
Okay, first Samuel 3.
Walter (17:34):
Yeah, and they're doing
something outside or whatever.
So First Corinthians, 2.
And let me get to that.
We always read NLT.
Sometimes my wife will read NewKing James Version, but this is
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in the NLT.
It says but it was to us thatGod revealed these things by His
Spirit, for His Spirit searchesout everything and shows us
God's deep secrets.
No one can know a person'sthoughts except that person's
own spirit, and no one can knowGod's thoughts except God's own
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spirit.
And we have received God'sspirit, not the world's spirit,
so we can know the wonderfulthings God has freely given us.
When we tell you these things,we do not use words that come
from human wisdom.
Instead, we speak words givento us by the Spirit, using the
Spirit's words to explainspiritual truths.
But people who aren't spiritualcan't receive these truths from
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God's Spirit.
It all sounds foolish to themand they can't understand it.
For only those who arespiritual can understand what
the Spirit means.
So, and actually let's go intothis, for who can know the
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Lord's thoughts?
Who knows enough to teach them?
But we understand these things,for we have the mind of Christ.
So many times people questionhow to hear the voice of God.
Well, it starts by having arelationship with God and having
the Holy Spirit At the core ofit.
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You have to have the HolySpirit that dwells in you,
because it's only through theHoly Spirit that you can
interpret what the Father isspeaking, and so this is what 1
Corinthians is talking about.
1 Corinthians 2.
Paul was saying to the churchof Corinth that in order to have
an understanding of what'sgoing on in the spirit, it is by
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way of the spirit of God, andif you don't have the spirit of
God, when we speak of things ofthe spirit, it will sound
foolish.
So even when you are trying tointerpret something that God has
given to someone for you, orsomething that you're reading in
the scriptures, it soundsfoolish.
Shanea (20:02):
Right, Because they
don't.
They don't have anythinghelping them interpret.
Walter (20:08):
No.
And it's only by way of thespirit Right.
What's wrong?
Nothing.
Okay, so first Samuel three onethrough two.
Shanea (20:20):
Meanwhile the Lord
speaks to Samuel, meanwhile the
boy Samuel served the Lord by byassisting eli.
Now, in those days, messagesfrom the lord were very rare and
visions were quite common,uncommon.
One night, eli, who was almostblind by now, had gone to bed.
The lamp of god had not yetgone out and samuel was sleeping
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in the tabernacle near the arkof God.
Suddenly the Lord called out toSamuel.
Yes, samuel replied what is it?
He got up and ran to Eli here Iam, did you call me?
I didn't call you.
Eli replied Go back to bed, hesaid.
Then the Lord called out againSamuel.
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Again, samuel got up and wentto Eli here I am, did you call
me?
I didn't call you my son you'rea little too far oh, I'm sorry.
I didn't know what you wanted meto stop.
I'm like he gonna tell me youwant to stop, no verse uh one
through ten but that's okay.
You said one through ten, Imean one through two.
Walter (21:22):
I'm sorry, oh okay so
we're gonna go back to there,
but a few things I didn't touchon right.
Shanea (21:26):
Okay.
Walter (21:27):
Okay, because I don't
want to move too quick and I
know a lot of people talk about,a lot of people ask us about
this, so we're going to try totake our time through it.
So, before we even get to youpositioning yourself, let's
start here.
We know that we need the spiritto understand the voice of God,
right?
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So, going back to 1 Corinthians, 2, 10 through 15, what it
shows us is that God revealshimself through the Holy Spirit.
Shanea (21:58):
Okay.
Walter (21:59):
Right.
And the natural man can'tcomprehend the things of God.
They're spiritually discerned.
So when hearing that, whatcomes to mind with you?
Because I think that's such animportant aspect?
A lot of times when people arequestioning things, they're
trying to explain it with theirnatural mind.
Shanea (22:21):
Well, God's ways are
higher than ours.
Walter (22:24):
Which is, I think we
have that scripture.
But yeah, his ways are not ourways.
He's not a man he's not going.
Shanea (22:30):
We're not wired to think
like him because of the fall of
man right because of the fallof man, but that's why we have
the helper the holy, which isthe holy spirit, which is his
spirit, by way of Exactly, andso if we are allowing the Holy
Spirit to lead us and guide us,then we will know the mind of
Christ.
That's what Paul said We'llknow the mind of Christ, we'll
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know his will for us, becausethe Holy Spirit is truth, so he
will reveal it to us.
Yeah.
He will reveal all truth to us.
Walter (23:02):
So you can't do this
without the Holy spirit, because
man doesn't have the mind ofchrist so at this, in this, in
this simplest form, a lot oftimes, um, what takes place is
and this is something that godwas dealing with me on in 2023,
beginning of 2023.
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I told you when he said thatthere are many that, uh, confess
with their mouth, but theydon't believe in their heart,
and so what happens a lot oftimes is, when you confess with
your mouth and you believe inyour heart, you be, you do get
saved.
But what should?
What should take?
Whether it takes placeimmediately or at some point,
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you have to be filled with theHoly Spirit.
Shanea (23:47):
Yeah.
And when you say confess withyour mouth and believe in heart,
when we're talking about heart,we're talking about your mind.
Walter (23:55):
Your subconscious, your
conscious.
Shanea (23:57):
So, like all your
decisions that you make, they
should represent what Christstands for.
Walter (24:13):
What is a conviction we
see with?
I think it was Peter in Actswhen he was teaching, and the
Bible says that it pierced theheart of men and they came to
him and said what must we do tobe saved?
Yeah, so it's getting to thatpoint and I think the
unfortunate thing is especiallyin america, which we're going to
see a shift in in these comingdays.
Shanea (24:30):
um, especially in
america, it's all about the
numbers of people giving theirlife to god, but it's not really
a major focus on a heart yeah,so I think, and even when we
touched on this, when I lookedup what heart means so in hebrew
, they're really just talkingabout your mind.
So, basically, when peter wasum, peter was speaking and acts,
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he like blew their minds.
Yes, their minds were blown andthey were like what it wasn't
like, it wasn't their heart,heart, heart, right.
It was their mind, theirthoughts.
He blew their mind.
Walter (25:06):
Yeah, and when we're
speaking and touching on the
heart, we're referring to thesubconscious.
It's the deepest part of man.
Because we know our heart andwe have an episode on this but
we know our heart is nothingmore than a muscle.
Yeah, but it's that.
So we go back to that because alot of times, unfortunately,
people don't receive the HolySpirit.
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Yeah.
And the Holy Spirit is whatallows change to come forth.
It's the power of the Spirit ofGod, because if we look at the
scriptures, when we look atJesus, the Bible says that Jesus
received the Spirit of Godwithout limits.
Yet after Jesus was baptized,the Bible says that the spirit
of God descended upon him like adove and he was immediately
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ushered into the wilderness bythe spirit of God to receive to
fast for 40 days and 40 nightsand be tempted by the enemy, and
so he was immediately usheredinto a wilderness experience by
the Holy Spirit, and the Biblesays that once he finished that
experience he left with power.
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So many Christians don'texperience that.
Right.
And this is what leads to youbeing able to hone into hearing
the voice of God.
Yeah.
So that's why we say the naturalman can't comprehend the things
of God.
They're spiritually discernedand the Holy Spirit is the
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spirit of truth and the revealerof all truths.
So we just have to come to apoint of understanding in the
West.
Right, it's impossible for youto understand God through logic.
We need the spirit of God.
Yeah.
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We need the spirit of God.
Now this goes into reflection.
I like this.
Are we trying to understand godwith our head, with the help of
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the holy spirit?
Shanea (27:21):
well, many are trying to
understand with their head.
That's why they keep askingwell, how, how do I?
Know, how do I know?
How do I know?
Walter (27:30):
it's just annoying.
It's just annoying.
But so here's the thing, and Idon't even think, because it
shifts some stuff in here.
But there's some stuff I wantedto really touch on.
It's not in here, so we'regonna go back and I don't like
that.
But to god, god, be the glory,let me see.
So we touched on this.
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We have some notes here, right,and you may not have the notes.
I'll send them to you, okay.
Shanea (28:00):
And I know app has just
been trying us.
Walter (28:06):
So one of the things I
want to touch on is this, right
here, before we go any further.
Okay, and we're going to dosome.
I'm going to do some readingbecause it's important to dig
into this.
So we talked about this earlieror late last week or late last
week.
We look at God asone-dimensional instead of
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multi-dimensional, which causesus to confine God and his power
to stories of the old or oldfolktales, and so many of us use
the Bible to box God in,meaning that it's hard for us to
imagine a God that movesoutside the confinements of the
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scripture.
So whatever God has done wasdone in the Bible, and while we
say we believe God can domiracles or that God still moves
, in reality we don't.
It's just a myth.
Shanea (29:10):
It's a folk tale.
Walter (29:11):
Yes, so when you dig
into one-dimensional right, it
generally means something thathas only one aspect or lacks
depth or complexity.
So in character or ideas it'sused to describe something or
someone overly simple or shallow.
For example, a one-dimensionalcharacter in a story might lack
personality or complexity.
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So we think god isone-dimensional and because of
us have we.
Shanea (29:39):
Even when we approach
christianity, we approach it
from this perspective it'sreligious yes, religious versus
relationship exactly, it'sreligious and traditional and
that's why you're not seeing themiracle signs and wonders to
understand that god is still thegod of the old and the greatest
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miracle that you could ever seeis a changed life.
Walter (30:03):
Yeah, is the power to
overcome sin, which is what
romans touch on so much withPaul, with his letters to Rome.
The greatest power of the HolySpirit is the power of a changed
life.
Shanea (30:18):
Yeah, but a lot of times
in church you don't see that
because everyone's trying to beperfect and put on this front
and then, when they're at home,their true selves come out, and
so they don't change.
They're the same person.
This person at home is the sameperson going to church.
Walter (30:36):
Yeah, it's unfortunate,
but it's the reality.
And so now what we have to do,even before we get to everything
we talked about right, when wetalk about 1 Corinthians 2,
verse 10 through 15, we have tounderstand that God is
multidimensional.
So what that means is havingmany aspects, features or layers
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, something that is complex,rich and not limited to just one
perspective.
So when you look at it from acharacter or idea, a
multi-dimensional person orconcept is complex, and God is
very complex and with depth,variety and different sides.
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So that's like when you thinkof a character in a movie.
It shows their vulnerability,it shows their strength, their
humor and fear, and it makesthem into this multi-dimensional
, complex person.
But we have to understand thatGod is multi-dimensional, he's
not, he don't fit into your box.
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You can't put God into a box,and so that's our biggest issue.
We serve a multidimensional God, yet treat him like he's one
dimensional, which limits ourability to hear the voice of God
.
And I don't know if it has it inhere, but that comes from and I
may be jumping ahead.
I did jump ahead, but okay, Ihad to put that part in, so
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let's continue.
So we was just talking about 1Samuel 3, 1 through 2.
So the reason, and I'll readthat again real quick to refresh
the memory of the listeners Areyou still there at 1 Samuel?
Yeah.
Read verse 1 through 2 again forme please.
Shanea (32:27):
Meanwhile the boyuel
served the lord by assisting eli
.
Now, in those days, messagesfrom the lord were very rare and
visions were quite uncommon.
One night eli, who was almostblind by now, had gone to bed uh
go to verse three.
I'm sorry the lamp of god hadnot yet gone out and samuel was
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sleeping in the tabernacle nearthe ark of god that part.
Walter (32:54):
There we go, and then
verse four suddenly the lord
called out samuel I feel likewe're in church right now, but
this part we've read this somany times right, the greatest
thing about this is that whatthe scripture shows us is that
samuel was in the position ofthe most holies of holies.
He was in the deepest placethat one could be of the
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tabernacle.
He was beat like, literallyinterchords all the way, like at
the ark of god, right at the.
Essentially, one could say thatsamuel was at the feet of god,
yeah, right.
And so by him being positionedin the whole, the most holies of
holies, right, he was able tohear the voice of god clearly.
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So this is good.
God did not, god didn't callout to someone randomly walking
by, he called the one who wasclose.
So when we think of the ark atthis point, we know that the our
bodies is the temple of theholy spirit, right, it's the
temple of god, the temple of thespirit of god, and the ark was
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the temple of the spirit, or itwas what held the spirit of God.
The tabernacle was what heldthe spirit of God.
And so our ark, at this point,is the secret place.
And so when people say, how doI hear the voice of God?
You have to position yourselfin the secret place.
So when saying that, what comesto mind for you as far as how
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to do that?
Shanea (34:32):
Positioning yourself in
a secret place, hearing the
voice of God.
That means being in the place,being in close proximity with
God, being in the presence ofGod, and that only comes by
spending time with him inscripture, because you can hear
his voice in prayer and inmeditation, maybe meditating on
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the word or just sitting silentand listening for him.
Walter (35:02):
And I'm going to say
something that's going to be a
little bit.
It may be a little bitcontroversial, Yet I just have
to be honest.
I would recommend againstjumping into your Bible first.
I would recommend praying first, because a lot of times we jump
into the Bible and we don'tknow what we're reading.
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And people will tell you tojump into the scripture and read
the scripture, but you don'tknow what the scripture, what,
what the scripture means.
And when it comes to studyingthe scripture or studying the
Bible, I tried doing it withoutthe Holy spirit.
It was very complicated.
Shanea (35:39):
Yeah, I think the thing
is is anytime you want to try
and build a relationship withsomeone, you don't go read a
book about them.
No, I mean, you can go read abook about them.
No, I mean you can go read abook about them, but then you
always you, you already havethis presumption of who they are
, and so now you kind of, and sonow you've kind of capped you
know them at their abilitiesbecause you only see, you know
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what, what, what people in thebible have told you.
Walter (36:07):
You're experiencing them
through or you're experiencing
that person and we can justspeak to God.
You're experiencing God throughthe encounters of other men
with God.
Shanea (36:15):
Exactly so, like you
have your own form perception of
God, so now you're kind of likeblocking ways of communicating
with him because you only thinkthat he communicates with you in
a certain type of way.
Walter (36:30):
And it's so important
we're not saying don't read your
scriptures because, we stay inour scriptures.
We're saying that we wouldrecommend I would recommend
praying first, seeking Godthrough prayer first.
And God led me to thescriptures, and God led me to
the scriptures.
Shanea (36:49):
Yeah, no same.
Like I said in the previousepisode about how, after I
converted that, the things thatI would do where the Holy Spirit
would reveal to me, I wouldjust look it up in the Bible.
It would just be there.
And more recently, like theother night, when he will reveal
to me, I would just look it upin the Bible.
It would just be there.
And more recently, like theother night when he was speaking
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with me and he told mesomething and he's like, look
this up and I'm like, oh, thisis exactly what you just told me
.
Walter (37:22):
And that's the other
thing that happened.
God would speak and saysomething to you, and you will
come across a scripture thatconfirms what God was always
saying.
So when people ask, how do Iknow this is God, god never
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deviates from his word.
Shanea (37:44):
No.
Walter (37:44):
So God's word is always
going to match with God's word.
So God's word is always goingto match with God's word.
So God's rhema word is alwaysgoing to match what God's
written word is what we'resaying.
So, when he speaks to you, it'salways going to match with the
scriptures.
And then you know, I think Ihave this in here but, just in
case, this is something that Iwould say is another nugget, and
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I believe we have it in hereand if we do, we'll go over it
again and I'm going to try to bemindful of time.
So, galatians 5, people, wetalked about this and we spoke
about this before.
Galatians 5, verse 16 throughverse 24, right?
So for those who are saying Iwant to know if this is God, is
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it flesh or is it spirit, dowhatever you believe you're
hearing.
Does it lead you to the thingsof the spirit or does it feed
your flesh?
Does it benefit the spirit ofGod or does it benefit your
flesh?
Does it benefit the spirit ofGod or does it benefit your
flesh?
That's already a cheat code,and we see here, verse 16
through verse 26, the starkdifference between the two.
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What are your thoughts on thatbeing a cheat code that they can
use, babe?
Shanea (39:09):
I think that because
people's wants are not God's
wants.
Walter (39:13):
So but it's a clear,
it's a so here's a, it's a clear
difference, right Like okay,let's say relationship.
I really want to be with thisperson.
I really want to be with thisperson.
I'm attracted to them.
I love the way they look.
I love the way they treat me,so I want to be with them.
I want to be with them so bad,because I love.
I to them I love the way theylook.
I love the way they treat me,so I want to be with them.
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I want to be with them so bad,because I love them.
I love spending time with them.
I love these things about them.
I love the way they make mefeel.
I love the way they touch me.
I love this.
I love that, that's flesh,that's not spirit.
Shanea (39:46):
People will say well
then, what's the difference?
What am I supposed to feel?
Walter (39:52):
If God is that goes to,
and I think we may have this in
here.
Let me see, I'm looking at thescripture because I like to give
people scripture.
Babe, do we have that what I?
Shanea (40:08):
don't know what, you
what, I don't know what, I don't
know what.
I can't see your brain rightnow.
Walter (40:13):
So and we're gonna keep
going.
But, um, I want to give youthis real quick.
So, uh, what's the scripture?
When david was and we had thatlast week, right, we touched on
that last week david and samuel,and so it was literally when
dave, when samuel was lookingfor the king and david saw, I
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mean, and samuel saw the, he sawdavid's older brother.
Yeah, he fit that, he was tallyeah, he was tall, dark and
handsome surely he's king?
No, god told samuel that Idon't judge by the outward
appearance.
Men judge by the outwardappearance, but I judge by the
inward.
I judge by what's in the heart,right.
So the cheat code is if youwill only focus on that person's
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outward appearance, I wouldtake that back to God, because
God is never going to putsomething in you that's going to
cause your flesh to rise.
He's going to always.
It's going to always besomething within that person.
Shanea (41:14):
It's going to be like.
It's going to be somethinginner.
It's going to be something morebeautiful, something pulling
you from the inside and then out.
And so it wouldn't be.
I'm attracted to this person.
Yes, you should be attracted tothis person, but not in a way
that you are looking at, not inthe way that your eyes can see
them physically.
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It's not a physical attraction.
Walter (41:37):
No.
Shanea (41:38):
It's an inward
attraction and it's really hard
to explain, but it is, but itisn't.
It's like you know how you meetpeople and you're just like
dang, we just clicked, you know,we just really really clicked
and I don't know.
But it's something about him,it's something about her and I
just really can't put my fingeron it.
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And it's not because they'repretty or they're handsome or
they're fine or they look goodit's really something else.
Walter (42:13):
And I just really don't
know what it is and it's
confusing me and that's uh, andwhat we we're referring to is
first samuel 16, chapter 16 andverse 7, if you want to read
that, and it just says but thelord said to samuel don't judge
by his appearance or height, forI have rejected him.
The lord doesn't see things theway you see them.
People judge by outwardappearance, but the Lord looks
at the heart.
Shanea (42:28):
Right Humans always look
at the outward appearance.
That's why they tell you hey,if you're not initially
attracted to this person, thenyou shouldn't be with them.
Walter (42:39):
And that's not
necessarily the case.
Shanea (42:40):
That's not true.
Walter (42:41):
So, moving on, abide in
me and I in you.
I was, I was taking the notesdown for this episode and that's
what I heard.
Abide in me and that's, Ibelieve that's John 15, four
through 10.
Shanea (43:01):
Okay.
Walter (43:03):
And this was Jesus
speaking.
Okay.
John 15, verse 4.
And he says this is NLT Remainin me and I will remain in you,
for a branch cannot producefruit if it is severed from the
vine, and you cannot be fruitfulunless you remain in me.
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Yes, I am the vine, you are thebranches.
Those who remain in me and I inthem will produce much fruit,
for apart from me, you can donothing.
Yeah, me and my words remain inyou.
You may ask for anything youwant, and it will be granted
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when you produce much fruit.
You are my true disciples.
This brings great glory to myFather.
I have loved you, even as theFather has loved me.
Remain in my love.
When you obey my commands, youremain in my love, just as I
obey my Father's commandmentsand remain in His love.
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Part of and we have an episodeon this part of drawing near and
abiding in Him is remainingobedient.
Being obedient.
Shanea (44:24):
Yeah, following His
commandments.
Walter (44:26):
Following His
commandments.
That's how you show you loveHim.
That's how you remain in him.
So when we talk about actuallywanting to experience and hear
the voice of God, part of thatbeing the case is actually being
in a space.
What is that?
A plane, I?
Shanea (44:42):
don't know, it could be
a train.
Walter (44:46):
Okay, so part of
actually experiencing all of
this is through obedience,consecration, holiness,
sanctification.
We sound like a broken record,but Jesus is saying it right
then.
And there you were saying, ooh,what was you getting from that?
Shanea (45:03):
as you was reading, I
got ooh when verse six where it
says anyone who does not remainin me is thrown away like a
useless branch and withers.
Such branches are gathered intoa pile to be burned.
I just thought about the lakeof fire.
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I thought about hell.
Walter (45:28):
It sucks.
Shanea (45:30):
I mean that's you.
Don't want that to be thecase's you don't want to be that
.
Walter (45:32):
You don't want that to
be the case.
I don't want to be a burntbranch and so here's the thing,
and because saul came to mindand that it was like that was
dropping the spirit, saul, paul,that people would use that
because he did hear jesus whenhe was in the midst of what he
was dealing with, yeah, but it'slike.
Here's the thing.
God may interrupt your life,like he did, sauls, but clarity
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and relationship come from, comefrom remaining.
It didn't stop there.
That wasn't like the end.
All be all when saul wasconverted into paul.
No saul.
Paul had a lifelong pursuit.
He was consistently pursuingGod.
He was consistently pursuingJesus Consistently.
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And that's where it comes tobeginning to hear the voice of
the Father.
Hear and recognize the voice ofyour Lord and Savior is through
consistent pursuit.
It's through consistent pursuit.
Shanea (46:39):
So the thing is,
remaining is a daily decision,
not an emotional moment.
Right, you have to do it, evenwhen you're scared, even when
you're tired, when you're hungry, when you're sad, when you're
angry.
It's hard to do.
Walter (46:57):
Religion is based off of
emotions or based on emotions.
Relationship is based upon adecision.
No matter how I feel, I'm stillyour husband.
I've still been called to beyour husband.
I'm not able to be moved by howI feel.
No matter how I feel, I'vestill been called to love you as
Christ loves the church.
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No matter how I feel, I'vestill been called to approach
you in such a way to where I dieto self.
So that's not based upon whatyou may or may not do.
I mean, I feel like doing it,but that's what.
God has called me to.
The problem comes in place whenwe get caught up in our
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feelings and our emotions.
That's very soulish.
That's why the Bible tells usto be angry but sin, not Right.
You can recognize that theemotion is there, but it's the
difference between recognizingit is there and being moved by
it.
Shanea (47:55):
Right, you have your
emotions, so you can.
They are levels of discernment,you know.
Walter (48:02):
So fruitfulness and
hearing comes from consistency.
You got to show up every day.
The disciples walked with Jesusfor years before they became
friends.
Shanea (48:15):
Yeah, and this is a hard
word to hear because people are
just like I just want to knowdo I get with this person, do I
move to this day, how do I know?
And it's like not an easyquestion, because you have to
literally sit in the presence ofgod and know his voice.
Um know, how he speaks to you,and you can't do that unless you
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spend time with him, and it'snot, you know, you pray.
You get up in the morning, youpray, you thank god, and then
you pray before you go to bed atnight.
Walter (48:46):
No, we, we grown now and
you can go ahead and read the
next point.
Shanea (48:52):
What's the next point,
segment?
Walter (48:53):
four, because you're
already digging into that.
Shanea (48:56):
Oh, stillness unlocks
sensitivity.
Yeah, it's true.
That first point says what Bestill and know that I am God.
Walter (49:09):
Psalms 46 and 10.
Psalms 46 and 10.
Be still and know that I am God.
Psalms 46 and 10.
Psalms 46 and 10.
Be still and know that I am God.
I will be honored by everynation.
I will be honored throughoutthe world.
Be still and know that I am God.
This is what you're talkingabout just now.
The stillness.
That's what people don'tunderstand.
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It's very important to get intothat place of stillness.
Uh, isaiah 40 and 31, and thisis all nlt.
But those who trust in the lordwill find new strength.
Now I I don't want, let me donew king jane version, because
that's what I'm looking for.
New king.
It says uh, nlt.
New I mean mean the New KingJames Version.
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Isaiah 40, verse 31,.
It says but those who wait, onthe Lord shall renew their
strength.
They shall mount up with wingslike eagles.
They shall run and not be weary.
They shall walk and not faint.
Shanea (50:11):
Wait.
You have to wait and it's hardto do, because we live in this
world where it's just go, go, go, go, go, do, do, do, do, do, or
you get no results Right.
And so when it's time for us toget into our word, when it's
time for us to spend time withthe father, we're on his time,
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not on our time, and so it canbe very hard and difficult
sometimes to sit still, becausewe're taught that we're taught
this All of our relationshipsare transactional, everything's
transactional.
It's like you know, if I domore work, I'll get more results
Right.
If I spend more time here, thenI'll get more results here.
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And it's not like that with God, and so we can get real
restless when we're waiting onGod, because we're like dang,
I've been sitting here for like15 minutes.
I don't hear anything.
I don't hear anything.
Okay, I've been and I'm likedang, what else am I supposed to
be doing right now?
I don't hear anything.
I don't hear anything.
Okay, I've been and I'm likedang.
What else am I supposed to bedoing right now?
I don't know.
You feel empty or you feel likelike what you're doing it's
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pointless.
Walter (51:21):
Yeah.
Shanea (51:22):
Because you're not
getting the results that you
think you should be gettingbecause of your experience in
the world.
But it's like God's ways arenot our ways and we're on, we're
not, we're not.
We're on his timeline not ours.
Walter (51:38):
It's understanding that
strength and revelation are
renewed.
In waiting, the key thing isbeing still and waiting, waiting
on God, understanding, like youwere saying, god is not on your
time.
No.
God is on God's time Right.
Shanea (51:54):
We serve him, he don't
serve us Exactly, and that is
also just one of the issues thatwe have here.
Walter (52:05):
And so we'll say this
and we're going to try to move
on, because I think we I don'tknow this may have to become a I
don't know what time did westart because we already heavy
in um.
I want to say this right uh,excuse me, stillness isn't just
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physical, it's spiritual.
It's about being tuned into godinstead of your thoughts or
environment.
Yeah, and that only comes bybeing, from being still and
waiting upon the lord.
Yeah, that comes from silencingyour thoughts.
I think there's a scripture inhere that touches on that.
Later on and this is probablygoing to be a two-part segment
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that we jump back into next weekand then also possibly dive a
little into how god speaks aswell but, um, yeah we touched on
that so I think we touched onreally being still, not being
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distracted.
Shanea (53:15):
And being still means
being in a place where you can,
where the Holy Spirit guides youinto the wilderness.
The wilderness places you in aplace of isolation, and
isolation is silence.
There's nothing else around,it's just you, right?
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If you think of the wilderness,there's.
there's no one there, but youand the trees, and the air and
maybe a few furry animals, butat the end of the day, it's just
I know you ain't over herethinking about a Cinderella
movie or something like that.
No, I'm not thinking about noCinderella movie, and none of
those movies are good.
They're all trash, they'retrash, they are, they're trash,
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they are.
Walter (54:02):
There's a movie that is
good, but people might get mad
if we spoke on a series, so Iwon't say nothing.
Okay, they say it's demonic,jesus a series, so I won't say
nothing.
Okay, they say this demonicjesus, give us strength.
Shanea (54:20):
We are so closed-minded,
we're so religious, but what I
was saying was it's um beingisolated, and it's hard for
people to be isolated, andthat's why people don't
experience god.
That's why people don'texperience god.
That's why people don't can'thear god, because they're used
to trying to take god into theworld.
They're, they're not willing togo into the wilderness to
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experience, to experience him.
They just kind of want to stayon the outskirts, just like the
children of israel.
They wanted to experience god,but they still wanted to stay in
Egypt.
Walter (54:51):
Here's the thing,
everyone, and this is what just
came to me.
Thank you, holy Spirit.
So, in order to get to a point,like you know, when you think
of Peter and I think we havethat in here as an example, yeah
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, matter of fact, let's we this,we're skipping over around,
we'll come back to god is alwaysspeaking and we'll come back to
the one dimensional.
But touching on what you'resaying, matthews 14, 22, 22
through 31, and I'm gonna readthis, or, babe, if you want to
go there, matthew, chapter 14,verse 22 through 31, nlt.
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But what was coming to me isthat the wilderness experience
and going through that processof learning the voice of God in
the wilderness, where it's justyou and God, or you and Jesus,
right, you and the Holy Spirit,you in the Holy Spirit.
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It places you in a position towhere you learn how to hear and
recognize the voice of God inthe midst of chaos.
And so what happens a lot oftimes?
Everyone is you.
What's the word?
You forego the wildernessexperience and now you have the
chaos of life, distractions,what may have you, and you're
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trying to hear the voice of God,but you never learned how to
hear the voice of God, whichcomes from being in a space of
the wilderness where everythingis silenced, there's nothing
around you.
That's what you learn how tocommunicate with the father.
That's what you learn how towalk with the father.
Right, you have to go throughthe wilderness experience first,
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and because we are in a societythat's it's almost like a
microwave society.
Yeah, the enemy wants to keepus busy.
Shanea (56:47):
Yes, and distracted.
So the wilderness season is apoint for you to let go of all
of these distractions.
Right, and that might be.
You might have to quit your job, you might have to stop talking
to people, you might have tostop talking to your family, you
might have to stop doing allthese things that you decided
that you wanted to do.
Right, in order to hear thevoice of God, so that when you
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do come out of this wildernessseason and you step back into
the world right, because thosesame distractions are going to
be there, but now you have thepower to overcome these
distractions and you can heargod's voice through the
distractions because you'vespent so much time with him.
Walter (57:28):
Yeah, and that's where
this is and everyone can read.
It is verse 22 through 31.
And for time's sake, it's justreally well, let's read it.
Shanea (57:40):
What Jesus walks on
water.
I'll read it so.
This is Matthew 14, 22 through30.
Immediately after this, jesusinsisted that his disciples get
back into the boat and cross tothe other side of the lake while
he sent the people home.
After sending them home, hewent up into the hills by
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himself to pray.
Night fell while he was therealone.
Meanwhile, the disciples were introuble, far away from land,
for a strong wind had risen andthey were fighting heavy waves.
About three o'clock in themorning, jesus came toward them,
walking on the water.
When the disciples saw himwalking on the water, they were
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terrified.
In their fear they cried outit's a ghost.
But Jesus spoke to them at once.
Don't be afraid.
He said.
Take courage, I am here.
Then Peter called to him Lord,if it's really you, tell me to
come to you walking on the water.
Yes, come, jesus said.
So Peter went over the side ofthe boat and walked on the water
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towards Jesus.
But then, but when he saw thestrong wind and the waves, he
was terrified and began to sink.
Save me, lord, he shouted.
Jesus immediately reached outand grabbed him.
You have so little faith, jesussaid.
Why did you doubt me?
Walter (59:06):
So the thing that you
know that really stood out when
I this is what came to mind as Iwas putting the notes together
is the storm represented chaos,and so a lot of times with us
and we just touched on theimportance of the wilderness so
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you can recognize God's voice ofthe wilderness, so you can
recognize God's voice.
Yeah, digging into even agreater area that we struggle in
is being able to focus in onGod's voice in the midst of the
storm in the midst of the chaos,and the thing that we can kind
of look at Peter with as anexample is that the minute he
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started focusing on the chaosaround him, he started to sink,
and that's what happens a lot oftimes with us in life, so we
have to be careful.
Um, I know we're pressed fortime, but I think this is going
to be a two-part segment becausewe still got a bunch of stuff
to get through.
Uh, so next week.
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This sucks, but it's just we.
We.
I don't want to keep them forum, because we always we we got
to get through.
God is always speaking, um, andyeah, we got.
Shanea (01:00:24):
We got like four or five
more segments and then we got
it.
Walter (01:00:27):
We got to get through,
uh, watching to see what god
will say, which is a really goodpoint.
Um, it's some stuff that I wantto get to the people that's
really important.
So here's what we'll do.
Um, because we are pressed fortime, I think we're going right
into an hour a little over anhour now.
Um, next week we're going tofinish this out, but what we're
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going to also touch on is someof the ways that God speaks to
us, which I think would bereally good for everyone.
Shanea (01:01:02):
Yeah, because, like I
said in the beginning, there's
so many different ways that hecan speak.
He also speaks to me in numbers.
Walter (01:01:10):
Yeah, there's different
ways that he can speak.
He also speaks to me in numbers.
Shanea (01:01:12):
Yeah, there's different
ways.
There's a.
There's a a numerous amount ofways that God speaks to you.
Walter (01:01:16):
So what we'll do is
we'll, and if you haven't gotten
um Joshua Giles book.
Shanea (01:01:21):
What's?
Walter (01:01:22):
the name of it.
When, when God speaks.
When God speaks, the latest oneprobably should get that.
Yeah.
So yeah, so we'll finish nextweek Definitely.
Get that everyone, becausethere's some important things
that Joshua Giles is talkingabout.
I think that the remnant needto know, need to be mindful of
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we in this season we really needto uh press into the voice of
god to hear what god is sayingyeah, uh, to his people, to the
nation, uh, to those in america,to those in the surrounding
countries.
What is it that god is saying?
What is it that's taking placein the spirit?
because there's a, there'sthings taking place in the
spirit yeah, we're in sometumultuous times right now and
it's um very important that weknow the voice of god don't be
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deceived god can see god andrecognize that this is god and
this is not god yeah um becausethere's a heavy level of
deception that is coming, that'salready here, but um and
there's some things that you'reabout to face that's going to be
very trying, especially, uh,for those here in america, and
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so you want to be in a positionto hear god and have wisdom on
how to prepare for, for the daysahead and, and please, you know
, once again get the book thatmy wife recommended with Joshua
Giles.
We will probably put a link init in the bio, to have you pick
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that book up.
Shanea (01:03:00):
Yeah.
Walter (01:03:00):
It's very important.
He's one of the very few peoplethat we listen to, that we know
like God is with him.
A lot of the things that Godhad been dealing with us on he
confirmed.
Emma is another one.
Shanea (01:03:14):
Yeah, Emma Stark.
Walter (01:03:16):
She's another one that's
heavy Once again, when
everybody else is sayingsomething left and we know what
we've been hearing God say.
For some time now, both partieshave been on one accord.
Shanea (01:03:29):
And remember, just
because the majority says it
doesn't make it true.
Walter (01:03:33):
When you look at the
prophets in the Bible, they
always, the words that God gavethem, always went against the
majority.
That's why the people didn'tlike to hear them when it came.
Shanea (01:03:42):
Absolutely.
Walter (01:03:43):
It wasn't a good word
that they would bring majority
of the time.
Shanea (01:03:46):
No, and we're talking
about a remnant, so it's not
going to be the majority, but ifit resonates with you, then I
would say that's a good thing.
Walter (01:03:57):
Yes, yes, and I would
say prepare Stock up.
Shanea (01:04:04):
Yeah, God has been
showing us some things.
That has also been confirmedthrough Joshua, through Emma,
through other men and women ofGod that we speak to.
Walter (01:04:16):
So, for those that
resonate with, please prepare.
Ask God to give you wisdom.
Hear me saying what I'm saying.
Without me saying what I'msaying, stock up, stock up for
what's ahead.
Shanea (01:04:29):
Don't buy any big
purchases right now be mindful
re-route your money get stuffinvested in things that and only
god can give you wisdom on this.
Walter (01:04:43):
but there's people, and
this is why we're referring you
to giles, because, um, he's,he's an anointed man of god.
He's an anointed man of God,he's a leader, and God has given
him a grace to provide wisdomon how to approach the days
ahead.
And this is not fear.
This is just the reality ofwhat has always taken place.
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When we look at the Bible andwe see the different encounters,
there was always moments andtimes of judgment there was
always moments and times ofrestructuring.
There was always, and in orderfor restructure to take place,
in order for new things to bebirthed forth sometimes old
things have to be done away with.
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Broken have to be broken down,things have to be broken, and
this is a very uncomfortableperiod to go through when you're
going through those things.
Yet, you know, for those whoknow God, for those who have a
relationship with God, this iswhat we press in even the more,
and we trust in God that even inthe midst of chaos, he will
keep us, that he will protect us, that he will provide us with
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the wisdom on how to moveforward.
Like when we look at Joseph.
Joseph was really in a periodwe talk about how Joseph rose,
but we don't understand thatJoseph rose because there was a
famine that was coming.
Joseph was placed in thatposition because of the famine
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that God wanted to use him tonot only preserve the children
of Israel, but to preservealmost over half of the world.
Shanea (01:06:19):
Right.
Walter (01:06:20):
So for even believers,
you're not just called to other
believers.
That may not be what God isjust calling you to.
God may be calling you to be aJoseph.
Yeah.
Which is why it's so importantthat you hear the voice of God,
because what is it that Godwants you to do that you're not
hearing him tell you that hewants you to do?
To preserve others, to keepothers.
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Not only yourself, not onlyyour family, but to keep others.
Shanea (01:06:46):
Yeah, and I think it's
hard too, because people are so
used to this prosperity teachingand it's really just very
selfish based and you know, whenGod speaks it's really always
for correction and for preparingyou for a new season or a new
way of life.
Walter (01:07:07):
He will prosper you, but
it won't.
But it's not how it's.
It's not how people portray itto be.
I'm sorry, everybody has notbeen called to be a
multimillionaire or amillionaire.
No, you can find um security inwhatever you make.
Shanea (01:07:27):
Right and a lot of times
, many people won't be able to
handle that and God's not goingto give you something that's
going to make you sin.
Walter (01:07:33):
And you don't want the
warfare associated with it.
No, you don't want the warfareassociated with it.
And so we're saying this andthis digs back in, or it kind of
ties into hearing God.
Cause, even now it's importantthat you hear God.
Don't just go by what we hear.
God, hear God.
We're not your, I'm not yourGod.
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I'm not my wife's God, my wifeis not my God.
We, both still have to hear God.
You know your leaders they'renot your God.
Your pastors they're not yourGod.
God is your God, that's whyit's important.
As believers, you know that youcan hear the voice of God.
And so, babe, is there anythingyou want to add before we?
Shanea (01:08:15):
No, because I don't want
to go on and on, and on.
Walter (01:08:18):
Okay, so next week we
will finish up on hearing the
voice of God and we willactually also explore or touch
on how God speaks.
Don't know how far we're goingto go with it, but we'll touch
on how God speaks.
Give a few examples of how Godhas spoken to us and some
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examples in the Bible of how hespoke.
So you want to do the endingyou always do.
Shanea (01:08:49):
Thank you guys for
listening.
Oh my gosh.
No, we appreciate you guys forsticking around with us.
Uh, for these last 20 episodesso we do appreciate you and we
thank you for being obedient andlistening to god's word and
what he has been speaking andsharing with us, um, and so,
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honestly, we just reallyappreciate you and we thank you
and we are so glad that you'rehere with us, joining us on this
journey, and so, yeah, I don'thave anything else to say except
for thank you, like, subscribe,share.
You know that whole thing, ordon't Comment all that good
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stuff.
Comment Because, at the end ofthe day, like we're not trying
to get you to bring us morefollowers, Whoever this is for,
they get to.
Yeah, it's going to get towhoever needs to get to.
Walter (01:09:47):
Yeah, if you feel like
this is something that you know
someone needs to hear.
Shanea (01:09:52):
Absolutely share it with
them share it with them if
anyone comes to mind, you shouldtotally share it with them,
even if you don't even talk tothem anymore.
Walter (01:10:00):
Just share it yeah, this
is all about the remnant and we
don't know how many that'sgoing to be no, this is all
about saving God's children,building a community of people
who really just desperately wantto experience and encounter God
.
Yeah, and who's done with thenorms or the religious?
Shanea (01:10:21):
Or they know there's
something more and they just
haven't experienced it becausethey haven't come in contact
with the right people.
Walter (01:10:29):
Yeah.
Shanea (01:10:31):
So yeah, so.
Walter (01:10:32):
We appreciate you all,
of course, and we will see you
next week.
Bye-bye, goodbye.