Hearing The Voice of God: Part Two

Have you ever wondered why you struggle to hear God's voice despite your devotion? In this eye-opening episode, Walter and Shanea challenge the limiting belief that God only speaks through Scripture. With refreshing candor and spiritual insight, they explore how believers often serve a multidimensional God while approaching Him as if He's one-dimensional.

The couple navigates powerful biblical examples demonstrating God's diverse communication methods from dreams and visions to inner knowings and angelic messengers. Drawing from Habakkuk, Paul's Damascus road encounter, Joseph's prophetic dreams, and Ezekiel's spiritual transportations, they illustrate how God's voice has always transcended conventional understanding.

Walter and Shanea provide practical guidance for discerning authentic divine communication from other voices. They emphasize that God's voice will always align with His character and the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:16-26), bringing peace rather than fear or chaos. Their conversation extends beyond spiritual theory to address how true connection with God should naturally cultivate compassion for justice, the poor, and marginalized communities.

This episode offers spiritual depth and practical application, helping listeners develop their unique relationship with God rather than experiencing Him solely through others' encounters. Whether you're new to faith or have been walking with God for years, this conversation will challenge you to create space for divine communication and recognize His voice in whatever form it takes.

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Episode Transcript

WALTER (00:00):
Welcome back to another episode of Stepping in Faith,
where, together, we explore theimportance of having a
relationship with God and howthat relationship with God can
impact the relationship you havewith others.
I'm your host, walter, and I'mjoined here alongside my lovely
wife.

SHANEA (00:15):
Shanea.

WALTER (00:16):
How did that sound?
I guess it's cool.
What do you mean?
I don't know.

SHANEA (00:22):
So you want to do it over again.

WALTER (00:23):
No.

SHANEA (00:24):
Oh, okay.

WALTER (00:26):
Just wondering.
So this is episode.
Wait, I'm going out of order.
Typically, we start off withprayer, and we start off with
prayer because we're believersand, yeah, that's where we're
going to go first.
You okay, no but I'm going tobe fine.

(00:50):
Okay.
So you prayed last week right.

SHANEA (00:54):
I think so, but I really don't remember, honestly.

WALTER (00:57):
I can't hear you.

SHANEA (00:59):
I really don't remember, honestly.

WALTER (01:04):
Okay, all right, so I believe you did so.
I'll pray, all right.
Father god, as we come beforeyou this afternoon, we are
grateful for your love, yourmercy and your grace, and we
pray that your perfect will willcontinue to be carried out in

(01:25):
our lives, in the lives of thelisteners, in the lives of your
people.
Holy Spirit, we yield to youand we submit to you.
Lord Jesus, not only do weacknowledge you, but we welcome
you.
Father God, we thank you foryour perfect will.
We thank you for your love,your mercy, your grace, your

(01:46):
kindness, your joy and yourpeace.
Let this podcast episode reachthose that you've called for it
to reach.
Let it touch them, open theirears so that they will hear what
you have to say.
Spiritually, god, help them tosee God spiritually.
Help them to hear spiritually,father God, help them to develop
a closer and more intimaterelationship with you.

(02:08):
We thank you even now, in thename of Jesus.
We pray Amen.
Amen what.

SHANEA (02:16):
Nothing.

WALTER (02:18):
You'd be looking like you'd be having something to say
.

SHANEA (02:19):
No.

WALTER (02:22):
So this is episode what 21.

SHANEA (02:26):
21.
Episode 21.

WALTER (02:28):
The devil is a liar 21.
I speak against that right now.
So this is episode 21.
We have been doing this for 21weeks now.
Yeah.
Lord have mercy.
What is the title of thisweek's episode?

SHANEA (02:49):
Hearing the Voice of God Part 2.

WALTER (02:52):
You have a different type of energy today.
Huh, Did you have candy orsomething?

SHANEA (02:58):
I had that donut.

WALTER (03:00):
Oh okay, I did Okay.
When my wife has sweets,sometimes she gets a sugar rush
yeah.

SHANEA (03:09):
I'm like a little kid.
I do yeah, because I don'treally eat sugar like that.
You do I don't you over thereeating all the sugars and stuff?

WALTER (03:18):
Listen, Jesus.
We already know he likes to eatthe sugar.
So listen, that's my Lord andsugar, so listen, that's my lord
and savior and that's my bigbrother so hey and that's cool.

SHANEA (03:30):
I'm just not used to eating sweets like that, so
sometimes yes and you gottaspeak louder because you're
whispering.

WALTER (03:38):
You have to get.
God already told you that yougot to project I.

SHANEA (03:41):
I have to project my voice.

WALTER (03:43):
Yes, you got to be bold in what you're saying, and so
Thank you for reminding me.
You're welcome.
I will consistently be mindfulof reminding you of the
importance of being bold in whatthus says the Lord.
So, episode 21, hearing thevoice of God, part two.

(04:04):
Last week we touched on a fewthings.
Right, we spoke about it.
We're going to revisit thatagain the fact that sometimes we
look at God as beingone-dimensional.
We touched on a few things,basically, just kind of digging
into the importance of hearingthe voice of God and positioning

(04:31):
yourself in such a way whereyou can hear that said voice.
What's wrong?
Nothing.
Sure, okay, okay, and so are you.
Okay, lord have mercy.

SHANEA (04:52):
I'm fine, I'm fine.
One donut we have feeling onthe inside so I have feeling on
the inside, please forgive us.

WALTER (05:07):
Please forgive us.
You're seeing my wife in herrare form okay so, um, we just
really touched on the importanceof understanding.
I believe we touched on thefact that god is always speaking
.
We may have touched on that,I'm not sure, but we touched on
the fact that God is alwaysspeaking.
We may have touched on that,I'm not sure, but we touched on

(05:29):
a few things Actually.
No, let me go back, I'm in thewrong section.
So we touched on the fact thatyou need the Spirit to
understand the voice of God.
We touched on your position,which determines your perception
.
We talked about Samuel andwhere he was positioned when he
heard the Lord speaking, and wetalked about, or we discussed,

(05:50):
the importance of remaining, notjust visiting, right, so, and
we touched on a little bit theimportance of stillness, being
still and knowing that he's Godbeing still the importance of
that stillness waiting still andknowing that he's God being
still, the importance of thatstillness waiting upon the Lord.
But to really, you know,familiarize yourself with this

(06:12):
week episode, go back and listento that last week episode first
and then listen to this weekepisode if you haven't heard it
yet.

SHANEA (06:18):
Okay, what's wrong?

WALTER (06:19):
No, you kind of whistling a little bit.

SHANEA (06:21):
What's wrong?
No, you're kind of whistling alittle bit.

WALTER (06:23):
I don't know why.

SHANEA (06:24):
It's cool.

WALTER (06:25):
You'll fix it in post, mm-hmm.
So this is where we are.
Let's get started.
Talk about we stated that thisweek, not only will we finish up
last week episode, but we wouldalso dig into the different

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ways that he speaks.
So where do we begin?
Some of the scriptures that wewill be reviewing this week.
There's more, I believe, butthis first corinthians 2, that's

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chapter 2, verse 10 through 15.
First samuel, chapter 3, verse1 through 2.
John 15, verse 4 through 10.
Romans 8, verse 5, revelation,chapter 1, verse 8.
So let's dig into this.
I wanted to revisit the idea ofone-dimensional versus

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multi-dimensional, because Ibelieve we get in trouble with
that that.
So really just to revisit thisone dimensional is essentially
just saying we a lot of times welimit God, how God moves, how

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God speaks.
One of the greatest issues thatwe have within the body of
Christ is we think that God isstill stuck in the Bible.
We see the Bible as this bookthat contains God and that the
things that took place was onlyfor that period of time.
The only way God can speak to usis through the Bible.
The only way that we can hearhis voice is through the Bible.

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The only way that we can learnwho he is is through the Bible.
So we no longer encounter himfor ourselves and we don't
understand that God ismulti-dimensional, right, and we
touched on this before.
So let me see, we touched onone dimensional meaning

(08:44):
something that has only oneaspect, aspect or lack depth or
complexity, and we touched onmulti-dimensional being is
having many aspects, features orlayers, something that is
complex, rich and not limited tojust one perspective.
So what are your thoughts onthat, babe?

SHANEA (09:06):
No, I think you're absolutely right.
I know we get a lot of commentsand people debating us about
how we hear God, because theyonly see God through the Bible
or through the words of otherpeople in the.

(09:26):
Bible, and so it's like theycan't hear God for themselves.

WALTER (09:32):
Yeah, and you have to be really careful because you
start seeking other people.
You start trying to seek God'svoice through prophets or
through your pastors, throughyour leaders, which is not
necessarily wrong, but thereshould be confirmation.

SHANEA (09:50):
Right, I think the thing is, is that this is your life
and so, while you do have theBible as a guide, your Holy
Spirit is.
The Holy Spirit is your helper.
Like God holds your blueprint,like your blueprint isn't like
it's found.
There's guidelines in the Bible, but you have your own personal

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Testament.
You have your own personal book.
You know, you have your ownpersonal revelation and you can
only get that by way of the HolySpirit, you can only get that
through having a relationshipwith God.

WALTER (10:26):
Yeah.

SHANEA (10:42):
And the simple fact that , yes, you your own natural mind
, because you don't have apersonal relationship with god,
whose spirit helps youunderstand the scripture yeah,
it's only by um and that digsinto.

WALTER (10:58):
I believe that's first or second.
Timothy that talks about itdiscusses how the scriptures is
inspired by the Holy Spirit.
And.
God was dealing with me on thatback in 2023.
And he was saying how can youunderstand the scriptures if you
don't have the Holy Spirit?
Yeah, when the scripturesthemselves were inspired by the

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Holy Spirit.
Right.
So let's dig into the Romans 11,33, verse 36.
And this is really just kind ofexploring and gaining an
understanding to the fact thatGod is very complex, extremely
complex.
So 11, and this is the NLTversion, verse 33, it says and

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who has given him so much thathe needs to pay it back, for
everything comes from him andexists by his power and is
intended for his glory.
All glory to him forever.
Amen.
We have to understand that Godis greater and bigger than the
Bible.
We also and we say this a lotand I'll continue to say it

(12:23):
because I think it's importantthat we really grasp what this
means the scriptures is nothingmore than different men and
women encounters with God.
So we have to get out of thisposition of trying to experience
God through other peopleencounters.

(12:45):
Right.
The scriptures is meant to actas a tool that leads you back to
God, so that you can have yourown encounter with God.

SHANEA (12:57):
Right.
It's like how people grow up inthe church, or you grow up at
home and you only know God orJesus through the lens of your
parents or the lens of yourpastor, and you're wondering why
you're struggling.
And it's because you don't haveyour own personal relationship,
you're just following tradition.

WALTER (13:18):
And it's just as simple as this God's ways are deeper
than our understanding.
Simple as this God's ways aredeeper than our understanding
God's ways are deeper than ourunderstanding.
When you think about that it'slike whoa.
Yeah, seriously, his ways aredeeper than we cannot even

(13:41):
fathom Like.
Even even if we was to try tounderstand God ways, it would
blow our minds.

SHANEA (13:49):
Yeah, that's why we have a helper called the Holy Spirit
to help communicate what it isthat God is actually saying
Exactly.

WALTER (13:59):
And we often and we touched on this last week we
often reduce God to stories ofthe past and ignore how he wants
to speak.
Now that was good.
I got to say that one more time.
We often reduce God to storiesof the past and ignore how he
wants to speak right now.
We limit him, which is why werarely experience him or even

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have an understanding of whathe's saying to us.
That's the difference betweensomeone who can clearly hear the
voice of God consistentlyversus someone who struggles.
You have to dig in and say okay, is it something that I am
doing that is limiting him?
Or maybe he's speaking and Idon't understand.

(14:48):
Exactly Because of where I am.
Yeah.
So Isaiah 55, verse 8 through12, or 8 through 11, I guess we
went to 13.
What do you mean?

SHANEA (15:06):
Oh, 8 through 11, I guess we went to 13.
What do you mean?
Oh, 8 through 13.
You want to read that.
Isaiah 55.
My thoughts are nothing likeyour thoughts, says the Lord,
and my ways are far beyondanything you could imagine.
For just as the heavens arehigher than the earth, so my
ways are higher than your ways.

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Did you read oh, continueground to water the earth.
They cause the grain to grow,producing seed for the farmer
and bread for the hungry.
It is the same with my word.

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I send it out and it alwaysproduces fruit.
It will accomplish all I wantit to and it will prosper
everywhere I send it.
You will live in joy and peace.
The mountains and hills willburst into song and the trees of
the field will clap their hands.
Where once there were thorns,cypress trees will grow.

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Where nettles grew, myrtleswill sprout up.
These events will bring greathonor to the Lord's name and
they will be everlasting signsof His power and love.

WALTER (16:25):
Being an everlasting sign of his power and love.
Being an everlasting sign ofhis power and love.
God's thoughts is nothing likeours.

SHANEA (16:37):
As you was reading that that part, I stood out, though I
.

WALTER (16:40):
Yeah, that's why I emphasized the I.
It will accomplish all I wantit to.
Yes.
And it will prosper everywhere.
I send it.
Yes, the lord speaking, yes,that's a message within itself.
Yes, people, y'all want to dowhat you want to do.
The scripture lets us know youcan try, but god is sovereign
and he gonna do whatever he wantto do, because how he wants to

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do it, because once again.

SHANEA (17:05):
And you have to fall into submission.

WALTER (17:08):
Here's the thing that we have, and we're not going to
get off subject but God don'tserve us, we serve him.
God does not serve us, we servehim.
So we have to stop looking forareas in our lives where we
think god is submitted unto us.

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That is a very that's pride.
That's pride that those areaswhen you have, though, that
thought process, you'restruggling with pride in that
particular area of your life andyou need to work on that.

SHANEA (17:43):
It's not good.
Not good or idolatry.

WALTER (17:45):
Idolatry as well.

SHANEA (17:46):
Yes.

WALTER (17:48):
But back on to subject.
This scripture was so importantbecause it shows his ways are
nothing like our ways.
His thoughts are nothing likeour thoughts, which is why we
have to submit ourselves to him,so he can guide us in what's
taking place and what needs tohappen and how we should move,
how we should go, because a lotof times you get stuck looking

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for God to speak in a particularway based on the way he spoke
before, and he may be speakingto you in a different way now.

SHANEA (18:18):
Right, or you're looking for him to speak to you like a
particular person in the Bible,when you don't have those same
gifts that that person has.

WALTER (18:29):
So he speaks to you in a different way.

SHANEA (18:31):
Right.

WALTER (18:33):
And so this is why we have to stop being in this
position where we attempt toencounter God through other
people encounters, or attempt tounderstand God, or look for God
to speak in our lives throughother people encounters.

(18:53):
Right.
You got to have your ownencounter with God, your own
relationship.
Daniel's relationship with Godcan't sustain you.
Zachariah relationship with Godcan't sustain you.
Ezekiel relationship with Godcan't sustain you.
Zachariah relationship with Godcan't sustain you.
Ezekiel relationship with Godcan't sustain you.
Paul relationship with Godcannot sustain you.
John, we can go on and on.
Ruth, we can go on and on.
They can't sustain you, and sowe're going to move on.

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So here's the thing that wehave to be mindful of the
demonic realm operates withspiritual awareness the thing
that we have to be mindful ofthe demonic realm operates with
spiritual awareness.
Shouldn't we be even morediscerning if the demonic realm
is operating within the spiritrealm?
And they understand how thespirit realm works, we should

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too absolutely even the morebecause God created the spirit
realm.

SHANEA (19:47):
Exactly.

WALTER (19:48):
And we are directly connected to God by the way of
the spirit of God that dwells inus through the gift of the Holy
Spirit given to us, based onwhat Christ did.
Mm-hmm.

SHANEA (20:01):
Yeah, but Christians are too afraid to touch that realm,
and so we don't experience hisglory, we don't experience his
presence and um, and this is whypeople can't recognize his
voice, because they don't knowhim yeah because god is spirit

(20:24):
and truth and we can't worshiphim in spirit and truth if we
don't live in the spirit realmexactly, and so what I would
want you all to think about aswe move forward.

WALTER (20:37):
you gotta ask yourself do you truly believe whether
god's?
Do you truly believe whetherGod's?
Do you truly believe God stillspeaks today, right, and are you
allowing religion or culture?

(20:57):
or fear, or fear or tradition tomute your sensitivity to the
Holy spirit, mm hmm that'ssomething that we really have to
think of.
I've been there, my wife hasbeen there.
We've been in those positions.
I can speak for myself.
I've been in a position where Iwas super religious, had no
understanding of how God spoke,did not understand scripture,

(21:18):
didn't even know what I wasreading.
Right.
No one even taught me.

SHANEA (21:23):
Or you're thinking you know what the Holy Ghost is, but
you don't, you're catching theholy ghost at church, but you
don't have a feeling.
You don't understand spiritualthings, yeah, you don't walk in
the spirit, yeah, and so how doyou even know when the holy
spirit is moving?

WALTER (21:42):
read that quote right there, babe which.
Which quote babe Under theone-dimensional.
We serve the quote oh we servea multi-dimensional God, but

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worship him like he'sone-dimensional.
We serve a multi-dimensionalGod but, worship him like he's
one dimensional.
Yeah, that is so good, becausewe do.
I would go further and say thatnot only do we worship him like
he's one dimensional, but weapproach him like he's one

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dimensional.

SHANEA (22:27):
I was about to say we approach him like he's one
dimensional.
I was about to say we approachhim like he's one dimensional,
Like you can't find him.
You can only find him in theBible.
And it's so crazy to me becauseyou're reading about prophets,
men and women of God who did nothave scripture.

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I mean, they had the laws ofMoses, but even before Moses,
how were they experiencing andhearing God?

WALTER (23:02):
for themselves.
Where do you think thescriptures came from?

SHANEA (23:04):
Yeah.

WALTER (23:05):
They encountered God.

SHANEA (23:06):
Where did the law of Moses come from?
Moses didn't come up with thison his own.
He didn't come up with this onhis own.
How did these men and women ofGod form relationships with God,
the father, and God the son,before the Bible was even

(23:28):
written?

WALTER (23:30):
We don't think about that and the fact.
Listen on that.
Job 33, 14 through 16.
For God speaks again and againthrough, though people do not
recognize it.
Yeah.

SHANEA (24:10):
So God speaks in many ways dreams, visions, a whisper
and a knowing.
But we're still limiting him toone way of speaking, and that
is through men and other men andwomen's encounter, or actually
his him speaking in the bible tothem and we don't the.

WALTER (24:23):
The challenge is we haven't even truly been taught
how we are supposed to studyscripture, so we are
misinterpreting the scripturethat we read because we don't
realize that multiple scripturestied to the same thing.
Oh, absolutely they tie back tothe same thing, it's saying the
same thing, it's tied together,you know, and so that it really

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hit me when you know I washaving my moment with God and he
let me know, for example, thatthe Lord prayer, thy kingdom
come, thy will be done, tiesback to Psalms 139.
When it talks about how his thebooks that he has that he's
written for us every single dayof David's life.

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He was saying it's already beenwritten in your book.
You know every move I'm goingto make before I make it, which
is why, in the Lord's prayer,jesus told us to pray that God's
kingdom will come, that hiswill will be done here on earth
as it is in heaven, because healready knows what's best.
So what Jesus was saying to usis that in everything we do, we

(25:30):
need to pray that we are in theperfect will of God, based on
what he's already called for ourlives.

SHANEA (25:33):
Yeah, and then, even more so at the end of the prayer
where forgive us our trespassesas we forgive those who
trespass against us, which isforgive those, forgive others,
so that my father in heaven willforgive you also.
That also has to be a part ofthat prayer which you could find
in a number of scripture whereit references that you have to

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forgive.

WALTER (25:54):
Which is why you have to be led by the spirit of God
even as you study the scriptures.
But yeah, so our cultureteaches skepticism.
We must retrain our spiritualhearing, because science seeks
logic, but God often speaksoutside our understanding.

(26:18):
Yeah.
Pastor Mike Signorelli.
What's wrong.
Why are you looking like that,mike Signorelli?
What's wrong?

SHANEA (26:29):
Why are you looking like that?
Oh no, I was just wondering ifyou rewrote this, because I put
my little two cents in there.

WALTER (26:33):
No, I didn't.
Oh okay, I don't think I did,but he touched on how he's happy
he was joking, but it wassomewhat serious that he's not
this extremely logically basedperson.

(26:55):
Yeah.
Because the more advanced youare, the more wise you are from
a worldly perspective, the morechallenging it becomes to
understand things of the spirit.

SHANEA (27:08):
Yeah, the more educated you are.

WALTER (27:10):
Because you try to explain stuff away so you're not
able to experience God Right?
That's another challenge thatwe face a lot of times that when
you are in that, when you havea logical perspective, when
you're trying to explain it andyou're overthinking and you're
heavily science-based and all ofthese things, it becomes a
struggle to experience thethings of the spirit.
Right.

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Because it's unexplainable.
Right, it really is.
And so we touched on this lastweek.
Discernment grows in silence,in scripture in silence,
scripture in silence, and eachbeliever must learn their own

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voice print of God, how heuniquely communicates with them.
That's the issue.
Yeah.
And you touched on that beforethat a lot of times we're
looking at how God communicatedwith Daniel, we're looking at
how God communicated with John,we're looking at how God

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communicated with Jesus, when itliterally just showcases, or
even Mary, jesus' mother.
There's a multitude of examples, job, we can go on and on.
We multitude of examples, butliterally what it showcases.
The Bible shows us that there'sa vast array of ways that God

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can speak to us.
Right.
Like it showcases that God isreally complex in how he speaks,
you know.
So from there we can go to thiswatching to see what God will
say, but I want to dig more intohow God speaks, and what are

(29:06):
your thoughts?
Do you want to add something in, babe, as we're going through
this process?

SHANEA (29:10):
Yeah, no, I had.
Um, if I I had notes, I had putnotes on this, but they're not
here, so I was just trying to goback to what I had in regards
to science.

WALTER (29:26):
Cause.
I think, Okay, is this fromlast week episode that you had
it in there, or you put it infor this week?

SHANEA (29:43):
I put it in there for this week, for the second half,
and I think that I think it, butit's okay.
What were you saying?
Do you remember what you wasgetting?

WALTER (30:00):
before yeah.

SHANEA (30:05):
Okay, go ahead.
Uh, I was saying that how umscience tries to uh explain away
what god had already revealedto us through the prophets in
the bible, like the importanceof dreams and visions on
unexplained like sense andsensations and stuff like that.
Um so science often seeks toyou got it.

(30:28):
Yeah, well, kinda I had waymore stuff.
I put it on your iPad, so Ididn't put it on mine okay, I
think it's right here.

WALTER (30:39):
I will send it.
It was under the God is alwaysspeaking side.

SHANEA (30:42):
I put it under God is always speaking, and then I put
it under I had a couple otherthings.

WALTER (30:51):
So I don't know.

SHANEA (30:52):
But I don't really remember, but it's fine.

WALTER (30:55):
We will continue.
I don't want to get go ahead.
What were you saying?

SHANEA (31:03):
No, no.
So one of my notes is justsaying that how science often
seeks to rationalize or explaindifferent phenomenas through
logic, data and observablepatterns.
But God has already revealedthe spiritual meanings behind

(31:30):
many of these experiencesthrough his word and testimonies
of the prophets, like dreamsand visions, like, for example,
when job said he basically isgetting nightmares um but
science will tell you oh, it'snormal, or um, you just probably
ate something bad before youwent to sleep or um, then they
have all these dream apps to tryand interpret what your dreams
mean, when the only person thatcan interpret those dreams are
god, which is god exactly?

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exactly.
And then, um, I think I wastalking about the, the different
ways you can discern god orlike, if he gives you, like a,
if you have a certainunexplained scent, or something
like that or fragrance.
You, you, you, um, you cansmell, but you that you can

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smell flowers, but there's noflowers in the room, and so
science will try to explain in away like, oh, it's just in your
imagination, um, or somethinglike that.
Or you just have like a, apeace come over you, um, that's
unexplainable after praying.

WALTER (32:27):
But science will try to explain in a way like, because
they don't have, there's norevelation there they're
approaching it from the worldperspective, the world wisdom
which that came into place, uh,with the fall of man, right,
with adam and eve and it's notthat science is bad because I'm
a, you know I have my master'sin nursing, so my entire life

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has been nothing but science.

SHANEA (32:52):
Science is actually my favorite subject, but it
definitely can reveal God'swonderful creations, right, but
it doesn't really replace thespiritual truth behind it.
It's always trying to figureout the truth, like why does
this happen?

WALTER (33:09):
But never related back to god yeah, they try to explain
the way they try to explain godaway, but there's certain
things that you still justcannot explain no, because faith
doesn't require you to haveproof yeah, and so I do remember
all of that being there yeahbut yeah, my bad it's cool, but
that's good stuff, yeah that'sgood.
I mean because you do have tolook at it from a scientific or

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scientific perspective andunderstand that there are those
part of the reason that theystruggle with hearing the voice
of god is because they're veryscience-based or logically based
, so they're trying to explainwith their mind and it's that
would negatively impact you.
You, because it becomes asituation where you're saying I
have to be able to explain whatI see or what I'm hearing.

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Yeah.
Or you will explain away thatstill voice, you will explain
away those visions you're having.
You'll explain away thosedreams that you're having.
You'll explain away the sensesand all those things or voices.
And so it's just the reality ofwhat it is, but that's good.

SHANEA (34:13):
Right, or you're getting visions and you're like the
doctor's going to put you onmedication.
But here in the Bible we seeGod gives people visions all the
time.

WALTER (34:21):
Yes, I mean it was full of.
The Bible is full of peoplereceiving visions, dreams.
The Bible is full of peoplereceiving visions, dreams.
Even as I was looking throughit, it's example after example
of the angels of the Lord goingto actually interpret the dreams
for them and to present themessages of God to them.
And so this is just what it was.
But I believe part of thereason it was the way it was
during that period of time isbecause they weren't distracted.

SHANEA (34:43):
Yes, and they didn't while science existed.
It was not the end, all be allright.
It wasn't like, um, your, yourjob wasn't contingent on whether
or not you have visions or not.
But here in the bible they werelike yeah, you see, you can see
.

WALTER (34:59):
Okay, I gotta put you on my team yeah, because you had
seers that actually aided thekings.
Yeah, but here, women of god,they aided the king here in the
world.

SHANEA (35:09):
It's like you see, okay, I'm gonna put you on medication
.

WALTER (35:12):
Yes, and I'll put you in to try to explain it.
I'm gonna put you in a mentalinstitution and then a lot of
times, um, the very thing thatand this is good for you all the
very thing that, um, god isgiving you as a gift, the enemy
will attack.
Oh, yeah, and so when you're aseer, for example, you see
demons a lot.
You're terrorized by demons.

SHANEA (35:33):
Yes.

WALTER (35:34):
You're terrorized by quote, unquote, all of this
stuff.
Seeing what's going on, Hearingvoices.
Exactly, it's the enemy tryingto really put you outside of
your mind.
Right To where you're not ableto really hone in on that to
understand.

SHANEA (35:48):
Dig in from God.

WALTER (35:49):
So if you see demons, you should also be able to see
angels, and you can also be ableto experience visions and the
glory of God.
So that's good, and now we'llcome back to watching to see
what God says.
Let's go into how God speaks,because we're still we're
already talking about that, okay.
So what we need to understandis God speaks in many different

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ways, and each of us must learnhow he uniquely speaks to us.
Yes, we touched on this lastweek and we have scriptures, but
God can speak to you through astill small voice.
He can speak to you throughdreams and visions.
He can speak to you, to you,through an inner knowing.
He can speak to you throughimpressions.

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he can speak to you through, uh,others, whether it be a
prophetic word, whether it besermons, whether it be, movies
whether it be a song, whatevermay have you right um your
mother your mom or your dad cancome and say a word without even
knowing it, and it's somethingthat God is using them to speak
to you about.

SHANEA (36:55):
Right or a stranger.
A stranger, whatever may haveit A person at the coffee shop,
exactly.

WALTER (37:01):
I don't even think I'm touching on all of the different
ways that God can speak to you.

SHANEA (37:04):
No.

WALTER (37:05):
You know it goes even further than that.
I mean all of your senses smell.

SHANEA (37:13):
Yeah, touch, smell, touch, taste.
Yeah, all of your senses.

WALTER (37:17):
God can utilize that to speak to you, and so there's a
vast like.
God can literally take you upin the vision, and we have
examples of this in thescriptures.
He can literally have it.
They don't like to say this,but by the power of the Holy
Spirit, your spirit can travel.
God can take your spirit andtransport it somewhere we saw it

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with Ezekiel.
And so I think a lot of timeswhen we read the scriptures we
think, oh, this is justscripture and it's like no,
these are men and womenencounters with God, and we have
to get that through our head.

SHANEA (37:48):
Right, but it's hard because, like we said, it's the
logic that people can't get bybecause we live in a world where
it's like oh, you're crazy ifyou think your spirit is
traveling.
You're crazy if you thinkyou're hearing voices.
You're crazy if you thinkyou're seeing visions, or you're
crazy if you think you'refeeling or discerning different

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spirits.

WALTER (38:11):
And I mean it's all here , though, and we have quite a
few scriptures to go through andwe may not read them all, but I
wanted to give them examples.
Babe, these were scripturesthat was just coming to me as I
was kind of like okay, paul, forexample, paul came to mind it's
acts, chapter nine, uh,beginning at verse three, and it

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says, uh, as he was approachingdamascus on this mission, a
light from heaven and paul willbackdrop and we'll read.
We'll read all of it, chapterone, I mean verse one.
Meanwhile, saul was utteringthreats with every breath and
was eager to kill the Lord'sfollowers.
So he went to the high priest.
He requested letters addressedto the synagogues in Damascus

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asking for their cooperation inthe arrest of any followers of
the way he found there.
He wanted to bring them, bothmen and women, back to Jerusalem
in chains.
As he was approaching Damascuson this mission, a light from
heaven suddenly shone downaround him.
He fell to the ground and hearda voice saying to him Saul,

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saul, why are you persecuting me?
Who are you, lord?
Saul asked, and the voicereplied I am Jesus, the one you
are persecuting.
Now get up and go into the cityand you will be told what you
must do.
The men with Saul stoodspeechless, for they heard the
sounds of someone's voice butsaw no one.

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Saul picked himself up off theground, but when he opened his
eyes he was blind.
So his companions led him bythe hand to Damascus.
He remained there, blind forthree days and did not eat or
drink.
That was an open vision thatSaul had.
Not only was it an open vision,but it was an open vision that

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those that were around him thatalso experienced.
They experienced that openvision.
That's one of the ways that Godcan speak to you.
God can speak you through anopen vision, right to where your
eyes are open like our eyes areopen right now and god can
really show you something, asyour eyes are open right, like
as I'm looking at you right nowI can also see in this vision or

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in the spirit realm.
And it is possible.
I've experienced it, my wifehas experienced.
I've seen angels and, as myeyes were open, I've seen the
angel, and anyone that's seen anangel, they will always explain
it to you this way the angel ofthe Lord is always bigger than
the room, yet they fit in theroom.

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It is nothing but light.
It is nothing but light.
It is nothing but light, and sothat's one way God speaks open
visions.
And then we dig further inverse 10.
Now there was a believer inDamascus named Ananias.
The Lord spoke to him in avision calling Ananias yes, Lord

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.
He replied.
The Lord said go over toStraight Street, to the house of
.
So now this is another example.
In this example, once again,Ananias had a closed vision.

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So these few scriptures, we'realready seeing someone who
experienced an open vision andsomeone who experienced a closed
vision.
Babe, do you want to go toGenesis 37, verse 5 through 11.
Okay sure.

SHANEA (41:49):
Genesis 37, verse 5 through 11.
One night, joseph had a dream,and when he told his brothers
about it, they hated him morethan ever.
Listen to this dream, he saidwe were out in the field tying
up bundles of grain.
Suddenly, my bundle stood upand your bundles all gathered

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around and bowed low before mine.
His brothers responded.
So you think you will be ourking, do you?
Do you actually think you willreign over us?
And they hated him all the morebecause of his dreams and the
way he talked about them.
Soon Joseph had another dreamand again he told his brothers
about it.
Listen, I have had anotherdream, he said.

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The sun, moon and eleven starsbowed low before me.
This time he told the dream tohis father as well as to his
brothers.
But his father scolded him.
What kind of dream is that?
He asked Will your mother and Iand your brothers actually come
and bow to the ground beforeyou?
But while his brothers werejealous of Joseph, his father

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wondered what the dreams meant.

WALTER (42:59):
This is an example of God foretelling of the future to
Joseph in dreams.
This is showcasing that Godspeaks to us in dreams too.

SHANEA (43:07):
Yeah, but it's hard because it just reminded me of a
story, or a lot of stories thatwe've heard, where children
have dreams or they see demons,or they see things that other
people can't see, and so theirfamily members try to quench

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their gift because it'ssomething that they don't
understand, and it's so sad.

WALTER (43:38):
Yeah, I mean, it's just the reality of what it is, and
we see that here.

SHANEA (43:42):
God clearly was speaking to Joseph, but his family was
like no.

WALTER (43:48):
Yeah, well, I mean, the family understood what was
taking place, but his brothers,as we know, were jealous of
Joseph.
So we know that was the case.
But, yeah, you also.
It showcases that you got to becareful of who you tell your
dreams to.
Yes.
You got to be careful of who youallow into what God is showing
you to.

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Yes, you got to be careful ofwho you allow into what God is
showing you.
And we see and, for time's sake, we have Genesis 42, chapter 42
, 42, verse 14 through 36.
This is Joseph's spiritualknowing.
That's an example of Josephactually having the conversation
with Pharaoh, and there's a fewthings that we can mention here

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.
First of all, joseph made itclear and you all can read this
at a later time, he made itclear that God interprets all
dreams, because dreams come fromGod.
Leave interpretation to God,because God is the one who gives
us the dreams.
Yet what we notice is that notonly did Joseph interpret the
dreams by way of the power ofthe Spirit of God, the Holy
Spirit, the Spirit of God butthere was also wisdom.

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There was a knowing of how tohandle the forewarning of the
drought that was going to takeplace in the land, the famine
that was going to take place inthe land, in the land, the
famine that was going to takeplace in the land.
There was wisdom that josephprovided too, which digs into
the fact that god can speak tous through a knowing, through

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just automatically insertingwisdom and information into us
right.

SHANEA (45:17):
It's like that little light bulb that goes off in your
head yeah, and so which?
Is it's called, it's revelation?

WALTER (45:24):
yeah and he, he revealed revelation or produced or
provided revelation to Joseph.
So, that's another example.
And then we have here Ezekiel,chapter 8, verse 1 through 17.
That's an example that speakson the dry bones, where Ezekiel
was taken up by the spirit ofthe Lord, his spirit.

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That touches on an example ofyour spirit traveling by way Now
, because you do have people inthe world, their spirit travel,
but we're not talking about youdoing this in your own might, in
your own strength.

SHANEA (45:58):
That's very demonic, which is what people in Satan's
camp do.

WALTER (46:01):
But we are talking about traveling by way of the Holy
Spirit.
Yeah, so a lot of times youwould have people even in the
church that would tell you thatspirit travel is demonic.
It's not demonic because thisis what happened in Ezekiel,
chapter 8, verse 1 through 17.
That's what took place.
He was transported and Ibelieve that.

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Let me make sure because Idon't want to misquote, but I
believe this is the example ofthe dry bones.
I just want to make surebecause he traveled before Yep,
chapter eight, verse two.
I saw a figure that appeared tobe a man.
From what appeared to be hiswaist down, he looked like a
burning flame.
From the waist up he lookedlike gleaming amber.

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He reached out what seemed tobe a hand and took me by the
hair.
Then the spirit lifted me upinto the sky and transported me
to jerusalem in a vision fromgod.
I was taken to the north gateof the inner courtyard of the
temple where there is a largeidol.
Oh no, this is somethingdifferent.
This isn't of the dry bones,but the dry bones is of an

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example is an example.
This is, uh, what we talked onbefore.
I'm glad I checked that.
This is something different.
This isn't of the dry bones,but the dry bones is an example.
This is what we talked onbefore.
I'm glad I checked that.
This is when he was taken intothe temple of God and you know
he showed them all of the thingsthat was going on in the temple
of God the idolizing, theworshiping of other idols just
the mess, the craziness thatthey was doing before he
destroyed them.

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But this is an example of beingtransported in the spirit.
Daniel 9, 20 through 23.
That's chapter 9, verse 20through 23.
That provides us with anexample of an angel of the Lord
delivering a message from God toDaniel.
That's another way that Godspeaks.
He has sent forth an angel todeliver a message that he wants

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to get to you.
Luke 1, chapter 1, verse 26through 38.
That's the example of theencounter that Mary had with the
angel of the Lord that foretoldof the birth of Jesus, once
again God speaking to her by wayof an angel.
There's so many differentscriptures in the Bible.

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That proves everything thatwe're talking to you all about.
The problem is we read theBible and we just think that
we're reading stories, which iswhy we once again limit how God
moves in our lives.
And I think the takeaway fromthis is we don't choose how God
speaks.
Right.

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We recognize and respond when hedoes.

SHANEA (48:32):
Right, just like Samuel in the temple.

WALTER (48:36):
We don't choose how he speaks to us.

SHANEA (48:39):
He didn't ask God to give him a word or to speak to
him.

WALTER (48:42):
He was just in position.

SHANEA (48:43):
Right.

WALTER (48:44):
He was just, without even knowing it, he was in
position.
So, um, now that we have thatright, I think we can go back to
watching to see what god willsay.
Uh, babe hebeka, chapter two,verse one do you want to read
that?
Uh, where are we going?

SHANEA (49:05):
abaca chapter two, verse one no, I mean what section are
we uh watching to see what godwill say.
Section eight okay you got ituh, two verse, one right.

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I will climb up to mywatchtower and stand at my guard
post there.

WALTER (49:39):
I will wait to see what the lord says and how he will
answer my complaint the thing iswith this scripture is so
interesting because he stated Iwill wait to see what the lord
says.
Not I will hear right he said Iwill wait to see see right

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right right and that really justit really kind of mess with me,
because even how we approach,when we hear god speaks or hear
god speak to us, many timeswe're witnessing something,
we're seeing something he'sgoing to get your attention.

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Yes, because that's the way thatwe function we see right, we
see but as we see, we hear fromwhat we see.
If that makes this, is it abetter way that you can explain
that to where?
Don't confuse, because I knowwhat I'm saying.

SHANEA (50:44):
Right, it's um we.
Oh my gosh, it's on the tip ofmy tongue.

WALTER (50:52):
Okay, so here's the thing God often speaks visually
in dreams, pictures, impressionsand visions.
So, even like when I get themessage of what it is that we're
going to speak about, it's likeyou hear what God is saying,
but it's like you see what Godis saying.

SHANEA (51:13):
You see the thought.

WALTER (51:15):
Yes.

SHANEA (51:16):
You see the thought, like I know what I'm going to
say before I say it, but it'snot my voice who's speaking
Exactly, so it's not like yousometimes.
Yes, you can see with yourvisual eye.
He'll give you a vision, he'llgive you a dream, he'll show you
numbers, synchronicities, he'llshow you pictures, or you'll
have an unexplained attention toa color a particular color,

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You'll notice a certain color.
All those things are ways Godcan communicate with you, but
it's not God he can speakaudibly to you.

WALTER (51:55):
Well, see, if you read further down right, verse two,
it says Then the Lord said to mewrite my answer plainly on
tablets so that a running cancarry the correct message to
others.
This vision is for a futuretime.
It describes the end and itwill be fulfilled.
If it seems slow in coming,wait patiently, for it will

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surely take place.
It will not be delayed.
So God basically gave him avision after telling him write
this down.
And if we look at the Bible,many times God is speaking, but
he's speaking through visions,he's speaking through dreams,
he's speaking through all ofthese things.
You do have the audible voiceof God, yes, but it's to

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showcase something to you, andso, when Rebecca is saying this,
what's really being said is Iam waiting to see, I'm waiting,
I'm waiting, I'm open.
I'm open to the vast ways thatGod can speak.

SHANEA (52:57):
Right, I'm waiting to see what it is that you're going
to say, because there's so manydifferent ways that you can
come to me.

WALTER (53:05):
Yeah.

SHANEA (53:05):
So I'll just sit here and wait.

WALTER (53:07):
So you have to be your mind, your heart, which is your
subconscious, has to be open tosaying I'm sitting here,
positioning myself on top of mywatchtower, which is from a
place of prayer.
It's from a lifestyle ofprayers, from a lifestyle of
worship, it's from a lifestyleof consecration, it's from a
lifestyle of holiness.

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So, I can see how God speaks, toreceive, whatever the message
may be.
However that message may be,whether it be through a dream,
whether it be through a vision,whether it be through a knowing,
whatever it may be, I am opento see what the Lord has to say.
So hopefully that makes sense.
So and this is what they weresaying and we touched on this

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this requires spiritualawareness and this is developed
through prayer, fasting andintentional stillness.

SHANEA (54:04):
Yeah.

WALTER (54:04):
You got to wait on God.
Yeah.
We touched on that last weekand you have to understand that
God doesn't always speak audibly.

SHANEA (54:13):
uh, you have to be open to however god speaks, right
spiritually but that's not toknock that if you are hearing
voices, they may not be from god, but that is for you to go to
god to say hey God, I'm hearingthis.
What is this I'm hearing?
Why am I hearing this, Insteadof just shutting it out

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completely or shutting visionsout completely because they're
demonic?
It seems like.

WALTER (54:39):
And we're going to dig into that next too.
But I want to ask, I want thissomething.
I want this to be somethingeveryone reflects on and it's
something for us to even thinkabout.

SHANEA (54:52):
Do we give God enough quiet space to show us something
?
No, many times we don't.
And I know he was talking to meabout that this week.
Well, was it this week?
It just started this week, solast week.
Last week I asked him aparticular question and I was
frustrated because I hadn't beengetting the answer that I
wanted.
And he's like well, whose faultis that?

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And I'm like, um, it's my fault, why is it your fault?
And I'm like, dang, because Ihaven't been sitting and
listening for the answer um,long enough.
He's like yeah, you have notbeen sitting and listening, you
have not been waiting for me, soyou need to spend more time
with me in order to find out theanswer.

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And I'm like, yeah, you'reright, it's my fault.

WALTER (55:39):
Because God don't work on our time.

SHANEA (55:41):
Yeah.

WALTER (55:41):
He work on his.

SHANEA (55:42):
It's my fault.

WALTER (55:43):
And it's not that God is being mean or anything, it's
just he's teaching us theimportance of developing a
relationship.
When you develop a relationshipwith someone, you spend time
with them, and I know it's hardsometimes because life is busy,
but that's how you develop arelationship with someone is
through time, through time, andso this is where we can kind of

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go into this next point.
This is key and this is soimportant, babe.
And if you want to pull upgalatians 5, 16 through 26,
where you going, babe uh,segment nine.
So god's voice will nevercontradict his word or character
.
We're talking about how Godspeaks, we're talking about how

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to hear the voice of God, but wehave to be mindful of the fact
that my wife just said that thatother voices could speak to you
, and we touched on in anotherepisode that you have the voice
of the enemy, you have the voiceof God, you have the voice of
others, which can be influencedby the enemy or God, right?
You have the voice of theculture, which can be influenced

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by the enemy or God, right.
So you have all of thesedifferent voices, but when we
look at it and we kind of justpeel back all of the layers, we
have the kingdom of darkness andwe have the kingdom of light.
And so galatians 5, uh, verse16 through 26 I really wanted to
put this in as something, and II ask everyone, please take

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these, these scriptures down,especially this this could be a
gauge of how to really decipherbetween whether it's God
speaking or the enemy.
Yeah, and babe, do you want toread that?

SHANEA (57:33):
You want to read all of it.

WALTER (57:34):
Yes.

SHANEA (57:35):
Okay, we're going to read all of it.
Okay, you guys Living by theSpirit's power, galatians 5, 16
through 26.
So I say, let the Holy Spiritguide your lives, then you won't
be doing what your sinfulnature craves.
The sinful nature wants to doevil, which is just the opposite
of what the Spirit wants.

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And the Spirit gives us desiresthat are the opposite of what
the sinful nature desires.
These two forces are constantlyfighting each other.
So you are not free to carry outyour good intentions, but when

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you are directed by the Spirit,you are not under obligation to
the law of Moses.
When you follow the desires ofyour sinful nature, the results
are very clear sexual immorality, impurity, lustful pleasures,
idolatry, sorcery, hostility,quarreling, jealousy, outbursts
of anger, selfish ambition,dissension, division, envy,

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drunkenness, wild parties andother sins like these.
Let me tell you again, as Ihave before, that anyone living
that sort of life will notinherit the kingdom of God, but
the Holy Spirit produces thiskind of fruit in our lives love,
joy, peace, patience, kindness,goodness, faithfulness,

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gentleness and self-control.
There is no law against thesethings.
Those who belong to ChristJesus have nailed the passions
and desires of their sinfulnature to the cross and
crucified them there.
Since we are living by theSpirit, let us follow the
Spirit's leading in every partof our lives.

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Let us not become conceited orprovoke one another or be
jealous of one another so weknow that that's a lot to hear,
but that's the cheat codeeveryone.

WALTER (59:40):
Uh, whenever you are being led by the spirit of god,
god will never move you orencourage you to do something
that goes against what he standsfor.
He would never.
And then we have James 4, 1through 10, another example, and
it's just really once againgiving us example of what God

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stands for versus what God doesnot stand for, right.
So this talks about drawingcloser to God, and the greatest
thing about this is it tells us,as we draw closer to God, god
will draw closer to us.
James 4, chapter 4, verse 8says Come close to God and God
will come close to you.

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It says wash your hands, yousinners.
Purify your hearts, for yourloyalty is divided between God
and the world.
Yes, and so God will never drawyou closer to the world.
God will always draw you closerto him and his ways.
So if God is speaking to you,it will always be something that
draws you closer to him and hisways.
So if God is speaking to you,it will always be something that

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draws you closer to him and hisways.
If we are in relationships andI'm just saying, and you're
married to someone, but they'reconsistently trying to draw you
further away from the things ofGod.
That's not God.
That's not God If it'sconsistently trying to encourage
you not to pray, not to be inyour word, not to fellowship,

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not to have a relationship withGod.
That is not God.

SHANEA (01:01:14):
Right, or you're constantly quarreling, or you're
jealous, or there's outburstsof anger, there's selfishness
there, there's jealousy there,there's division there.
You're out encouraged to gothere, you're out encouraged to
go drink or go to parties or dothings that are not, uh,

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producing the fruit of thespirit.
It's time for you to just takea little step back and say, hey,
you know what?
I don't see any fruit yeah Idon't see the fruit in this, so
let me take a minute.
Let me take a break and seewhat the lord is saying about
all of this.

WALTER (01:01:48):
And this is these are scriptures that we really want
you to read.
That's good for you.
2 Timothy 1 through 7, andwe're going to try to speed
through.
This is another example, forGod has not given us a spirit of
fear and timidity, but of power, love and self-discipline.
So anything that creates fearin your heart, it's not of God
and timidity, but of power, loveand self-discipline.
So anything that creates fear inyour heart, it's not of God and

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there's a difference, becausewe talked about this before when
we was putting the notestogether.
Whenever you see the angels ofthe Lord, come in.
Even with Jesus, there weremoments in time after his
crucifixion, death, burial andresurrection.
He's told them what.
Don't be afraid.

SHANEA (01:02:29):
The angels of the Lord will constantly say fear not.
Right.

WALTER (01:02:31):
But when you're dealing with the enemy, he always wants
to instill fear inside you.

SHANEA (01:02:35):
He wants you to be fearful.

WALTER (01:02:36):
So, as you're dealing with stuff where you're having
decisions that you have to makeand it's making you fearful and
it's making you all of thesethings and anxiety and all of
that stuff, you want to takethat to God, because God is not
going to put you in a situationwhere he's going to stress you
out.
God is not going to put you ina situation where it's going to
cause fear to where you'reafraid.

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Even when we look at movies,demonic movies, horror movies,
all of this stuff, what does itdoes?
It feeds on your fear.
It tries to create fear.
So a few points God's voicealways aligns with scripture and
God will not call you tosomething that serves your flesh

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over your spirit.
And if it causes fear, chaos orpride, it is not God.
Let me say this again If itcauses fear, chaos or pride,
that is not God.
Let me say this again If itcauses fear, chaos or pride,
that's not God.
Right.

SHANEA (01:03:33):
And then if you do think that you are hearing God ask
more questions, it's okay.
I think I need to move to NewYork.
I think I need to move toMaryland.
Ask God, why?
Why do I need to move here?
What's my purpose in being inthis place?

WALTER (01:03:50):
He may not tell you.

SHANEA (01:03:51):
He may not tell you.

WALTER (01:03:53):
But you would get some type of confirmation, but you
ask more questions.

SHANEA (01:03:56):
Well then, what do I need to do?
Can I have more confirmation on?
Can you send me someone to tellme?
Can you put an impression on me?
Can you give me another sign?
So, you can always ask more.

WALTER (01:04:10):
When you're dealing with this.
These are two things I want youall to think about Does it
reflect the fruit of the Spiritand does it align with God's
character?
God is not going to have you dosomething that will go against
the fruit of the Spirit or goagainst God's character.

SHANEA (01:04:29):
Or cause you to sin.

WALTER (01:04:30):
Or cause you to sin, and so this is good.
The Bible is not just history.
It's a mirror and a measure.

SHANEA (01:04:45):
A measurer.
Explain that part, measurerbeing something.

WALTER (01:04:49):
What do we use a measurer?
Explain that part measure beingsomething.
What do we use a measure for?
What do we use a ruler for?
What do we use that for?
To measure what's thedefinition of a measure?

SHANEA (01:05:00):
I don't know, I have to look I actually have to.

WALTER (01:05:02):
We measure length.
We can measure a lot of things.
Time.

SHANEA (01:05:11):
I don't know what the definition of measure is.

WALTER (01:05:12):
So when you think of this right, okay, it's a mirror,
because it's a reflection, it'ssomething that you could look
into.
It's almost like you're lookinginto a mirror, right To measure
, to say, okay, this is how Godmoved, this is how God speaks.
This is how God moved.
This is how God speaks, this ishow God.
These are the encounters theyhad with.
God.
How does what I am dealing withline up with this?
So when we think of Godspeaking we spoke about this

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before we have the rhema word,which is God speaking to us.
However, god may speak with us.
And then we have this scripture, the word of God.
So we can measure that rhemaword and we can compare it to
the scripture and say do it lineup?

SHANEA (01:05:54):
And if it, don't line up with the scripture.
It ain't God.

WALTER (01:05:58):
Right, it doesn't measure.
There you have it, and so Godisn't hiding, he's inviting
anyone can draw near.
Intimacy with God is foreveryone, and I'm gonna just
leave it there.
Intimacy with God is not justfor prophets and pastors.

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We talked about this last weekand leaders no, he poured out
his spirit on everybody.
And preachers and teachers andevangelists.
The Bible says in the last dayI will pour out my spirit, my
anointing, upon all flesh, all,both men and women.
Also, for men out there thatwant to come, for women who are

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leaders in the body of Christ,prophets, etc.
And say that God has nevercalled for a woman to be a
leader.
Why don't you read your Bibleand look into Aaron's sister
that the Bible referred to as aprophet of the Lord?

Speaker 3 (01:07:04):
And the Bible talked about how she led the women into
song.

WALTER (01:07:07):
That's the beginning.
I came across that and I waslike, oh, that was as early back
as I think that was in Exodus,I believe, is where I found that
at.
So all throughout the Bible wehave examples and this is going
off on a tangent All throughoutthe Bible we have examples of
women being leaders.
Yeah, I mean, he poured hisspirit out on all he was doing

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it even before christ came iswhat I'm saying, because the
bible said that she was aprophet of god.
The bible says aaron's sister,the prophet, yeah, but moving
forward, to end this out a fewthings.
We need the spirit of God tounderstand God.

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Yeah.
We must position ourself inholiness and stillness.
God is multidimensional andspeaks in many ways.
His voice always reflects hisword and his nature and

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everything, and this is so good.
Everything begins and ends withproximity.
Anything you want to add, babe.
Anything you want to add, babe.
You could read revelation oneand eight, which is a very

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powerful scripture yeah, I amthe alpha and the omega.

SHANEA (01:08:39):
Who is, who was and who is to come.
The almighty, what did thatscripture have to do the
almighty Mm-hmm.
What did that?

WALTER (01:08:50):
scripture have to do he always will be Right.

SHANEA (01:08:57):
he's never changing.

WALTER (01:08:58):
I am the alpha and the omega, the beginning and the end
, says the Lord God.
I am the one who is, who alwayswas and who is still to come,
the almighty one.

SHANEA (01:09:10):
Right, god is alive and he still speaks.

WALTER (01:09:12):
To this day.

SHANEA (01:09:14):
He still speaks.
He still speaks the way hespoke to everyone else in the
Bible.

WALTER (01:09:18):
Yes, he does, and he can speak to you that way.
And the thing is, not only ishe alive and he still speaks,
but he desires to speak to us,he desires a relationship with
us.

SHANEA (01:09:32):
And it's important to hear him, especially in these
last days.
There's so much going on.

WALTER (01:09:38):
So I think we touched on a lot.

SHANEA (01:09:43):
Yeah, I mean, hopefully this was helpful.

WALTER (01:09:47):
Yeah, preferably this was helpful to everyone, because
it's a lot of stuff going on inthe body of Christ that we see
that we aren't going to speak on, but we believe it's very

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important that you know God foryourself, because there are
leaders out here who don't knowGod who are leading so many
people astray.
There are leaders out here whodon't understand or have the
heart of Christ, the heart ofGod so the very things that God
cares about.
They hate, they don't care about, contrary to popular belief.
God cares about our immigrationpolicies.

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God cares about us feeding theless fortunate.
God cares about the housingcrisis.
God cares about the fact thatwe have, uh, those struggling in
the world.
We have the middle class thatare now becoming homeless.

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Uh, we have the rich that'sgetting richer and those who
aren't.
That is a larger gap takingplace.
God cares about all of this.

SHANEA (01:11:04):
Yeah, and we see that.
Um, if you that, if youactually read the book of Isaiah
, you will see everything Godcares about and everything he
hates.

WALTER (01:11:14):
And so when you have leaders that go against the very
things that God is close to, weknow the scripture.
We found the scripture.
I forgot what scripture it was.
You can look it up real quickif you have time.
It touched on how, when youbless the poor, that you're

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lending to God.
When you bless the poor, you'relending to God.
When you give to the poor,you're lending to God.
That's in the Old Testament,and so it's very important that
we understand what God loves.

SHANEA (01:11:53):
Proverbs 19, 17,.
Whoever is generous to the poorlends to the Lord, and he will
repay him for his deed.

WALTER (01:12:03):
Exactly so.
There are a lot of thingsthat's taken place in our
culture, in our world.

SHANEA (01:12:10):
In Matthew 25, 40,.
Whatever you did for one of theleast of these, you did it for
me.

WALTER (01:12:17):
That's Jesus speaking, so you can even see that Jesus
was also for it.
And so, and we see it, withinthe 5,000 men plus the women and
children we don't know how manywere there women- and children.
That after Jesus had broughtthem out and he spoke to them
not trying to go up against anychurch, I'm just being honest

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Jesus didn't collect theoffering he fed them.
The disciples was like listen,we don't need, we don't, we
wouldn't have.
Even if we worked up for a year, we wouldn't have enough wages
to feed these people.
Jesus took the few pieces offishes and bread he had, he

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lifted it up and he blessed itand he started giving it out.
And the Bible says, I believethey collected about what 12
baskets or some multiple basketswere left.
How many baskets did theycollect, can you see?
And so we see example afterexample of God's heart being for
those who are less fortunate.
So you can't tell me that youare a believer and you are a

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follower of Christ, but yourheart is not for those who are
less fortunate.
Your heart is not for those whoare coming to this country
seeking asylum.

SHANEA (01:13:33):
Your heart is not for those it was 12 baskets, 12
baskets, yeah, and leftover yourheart is not for those who
desperately need help.

WALTER (01:13:41):
Your heart is not for creating policies that aid those
.
Your heart is not for those.
This is not a political channel, yet we have to understand that
there are things that God caresabout, and this is why, once
again, I will say to you knowGod for yourself, because there

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are many leaders out here thatare leading people astray that
don't know him.
They serve the God of self.
Self-gratification.
That's what they serve, the Godof self-gratification.

SHANEA (01:14:13):
Yeah, and there is abundance and provision when you
bless others, when you aren'tgreedy.

WALTER (01:14:20):
Yes, so we?
We could say a lot, but we'llsay that and that's just in
general.
God is not a God of injustices.
If you are an unjust person, ifwe have unjust systems, if we
have corrupt systems, God is noton the side of the corrupt

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systems.
God is on the side of thoseseeking justice and anyone that
tells you otherwise are wrong.

SHANEA (01:14:51):
Right.
And I also want to say justbecause you have close proximity
to church meaning you go tochurch every Sunday, you listen
to gospel music in the car thatdoes not mean you have a close
proximity to God, meaning youhave a relationship with god,
because you're not spending timewith him.

WALTER (01:15:13):
You're spending time with your pastor and you gotta
be real careful because youdon't want your pastor to become
your god right and a lot ofpeople.
Their pastors are their godsand they idolize their pastors
and they worship their pastorsno, they're there to disciple
you they should be there todisciple you and lead you to
christ so that's our two centyeah, and a lot of this stuff is

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going on and we're going toleave it at that, so we are
grateful.
Um, you want to end this outbig like comment and subscribe?

SHANEA (01:15:53):
no, we thank you guys for um tuning in and sticking
with us this long, and if youare new here, we welcome you.
Um, we hope that you willcontinue to ride along, tag
along with us on this journeywith Christ.
Yeah, and if you have anyquestions or comments or

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thoughts, please let us know inthe comments.
Please send us a DM onInstagram, send us an email I
think that's really it.
Share with us your testimonieshow this has been blessing you,
if this has changed anything inyour lives, so yeah, yeah, I

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think that's it we are.

WALTER (01:16:38):
this is episode 21,.
So we're seven episodes awayeveryone, and we will be going
on a hiatus.

SHANEA (01:16:44):
Although we are working on another channel right now.

WALTER (01:16:51):
And we will be back I think.
I think it's going to be aboutthree months that we'll have in
between, uh, starting the nextseason after the 28th episode.
Um, I believe it's three monthsthat we'll have and we'll be
working on some other stuff inthe mean in between time yes so,
yeah, well, yeah, well,everyone be blessed.
We appreciate you and we praythat this has been a blessing to

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you.
Enjoy the rest of your week andhappy belated resurrection
Sunday.
Forgot about that.
Very important.
Yes, happy belated resurrectionSunday.

SHANEA (01:17:22):
Yes, that's also so yeah , every day is a resurrection
day, amen.

WALTER (01:17:28):
If you didn't get a chance to take communion, please
do your communion.
Please do your communion.

SHANEA (01:17:31):
You can do communion at home.
You don't have to do it once ayear yes, you can do it every
month or as often as you need torenew your covenant amen
alright, until next week.

WALTER (01:17:42):
Y'all be blessed bye bye .