Relationship Covenants

What if your relationships could reflect the divine blueprint they were meant to follow? Join us as we uncover the profound spiritual significance of covenants in both personal and divine contexts. Through a detailed exploration of biblical narratives and spiritual agreements, we promise insights into how these sacred bonds shape the foundation of our relationships. From the creation story of Adam and Eve to the union of Boaz and Ruth, we discuss how God's intentions for humanity are woven into the fabric of our relationships and the importance of aligning with His divine design.

This episode is a call to prioritize a spiritual connection with God, allowing His wisdom to guide relationship decisions and prevent the spiritual and emotional turmoil that arises from unions not sanctioned by His will.

We want to reignite your relationship with God, exploring the enduring nature of His covenants. You'll gain an understanding of how Christ's new covenant unites us all, transcending old divisions and fulfilling divine promises. Let us inspire you to deepen your faith journey, learning from the spiritual truths embedded within ancient covenants with figures like Abraham, Noah, and David. Through understanding these divine agreements, you will enrich your spiritual life and align your relationships with eternal truths that offer renewal and hope.

Ready to dive deeper? 🎧 Join us on YouTube for the full video podcast where we explore faith, love, and relationships through a Christian lens. Whether married, single, or seeking spiritual growth, our episodes offer practical advice and profound insights to strengthen your walk with Jesus. Don’t forget to subscribe and hit the notification bell so you never miss a powerful episode. Let’s grow together in faith and purpose!
👉 Watch the full episode on YouTube now!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to another episode of Stepping in
Faith, where together we explorethe importance of having a
relationship with God and howthat can impact the
relationships you have withothers.
I'm your host, Walter.
I'm joined here alongside mylovely wife.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Shania.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
You're so extra.
So this week's episode, babe,what is well?
First of all, this is episode.
Seven.
Seven, and what's the title ofthis week's episode?
Relations is well.
First of all, this is episodeseven.
Seven, and what's the title ofthis week's episode?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
relationship covenants relationship covenants
.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Simple, sweet so we.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
All of our titles are simple yeah, because we don't
we don't choose what our titlesare going to be, because we
would totally change all of themwe, we probably would, but this
is not podcast.
It's not.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
This belongs to God.
So that leads into the firstthing I would love to say is
that we are believers.
This podcast does not belong tous.
We are doing this simplybecause God told us to, and so
the way we start these podcastsoff is by prayer, and I know you
prayed last week, so it's myturn.

(01:06):
Yeah, all right, let's do this.
Dear Heavenly Father, as wecome before you this afternoon,
we are so grateful for your love, your mercy and your grace, and
we pray that your perfect willbe carried out with this week's
episode.
God, Let it reach those thatyou've called for it to reach.

(01:26):
Spirit of God, we thank you forleading and guiding us.
Let your glory fall down likenever before.
Let your fire fall down.
Lord Jesus, we welcome you in.
Lead and guide us, direct us,so this becomes something that
is coming from you.
Speak through us, breathethrough us.
We thank you even now, and it'sin Jesus name we pray.

(01:49):
Amen.
Amen.
So relationship covenants.
I guess the great way to startoff with this is well, we did
you.
I guess we both wanted todiscuss covenants earlier on,
right?
Mean or was it just me thatdesired it more than anybody?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
maybe you didn't care no, I mean I knew we were going
to talk about it, but not in acovenant type of way, more in
like a.
We would kind of just get to itwhen we were talking about some
different subjects.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
So not like actually having an entire episode
centered around really ourcovenants.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, even as we weredoing the research and just kind
of listening in, it's so muchinformation centered around
covenants in the Bible.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
So why were you talking about covenants?

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Like I said, it was something that was written down
earlier on because we'vediscussed covenants before.
It's so important and I waspraying on what we should
discuss this week and God waslike OK, you can go in and talk
about covenants.
Ok, and I'm like bet, let's dothis.
Ok.
And so the scriptures that cameto mind, of course, is when
Jesus touched on covenants.

(03:04):
So the scriptures that came tomind, of course, is when Jesus
touched on covenants what Godhas joined together, let no man
or no one can split apart.
Nothing or no one can splitapart.
I'm paraphrasing.
That's not the exact words.
Yeah.
And then also, what came to mindis the communion.
We don't realize that's also acovenant that we are

(03:25):
consistently recognizing.
That's a covenant that has beenmade with us in Christ.
So, yeah, I think the perfectplace to start is the definition
of covenant.
You want to start us off withthat, babe.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Sure.
In biblical terms, a covenantis an agreement or contract,
especially one that is divinelyordained.
A covenant between god and manis meant to be sacred, binding
and unbreakable and I think umwhat comes to mind is adam, adam
and eve.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
That's one of the most, that's the earliest
examples of we that we've seenthis like.
Are you saying between the most?
That's the earliest examplesthat we've seen in this life?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Are you saying between the two of them?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yes, the covenant that God made with them.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
What was that covenant?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
We are jumping ahead.
But it was an entire covenantthat was centered around the
fact of them becoming one.
Jesus touched on that covenant,that covenant, what God has
brought together, let no mansplit apart.
So we saw an example of Goddoing that.
It was a relationship covenant.
God said it wasn't good thatman should be alone with Adam,

(04:33):
and then God actually made Adama helper from Adam and he
brought her to Adam, that's Eve.
So that was the first exampleof a covenant that God
recognized between men and God.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
And so yeah, it's like a condition, Like the other
definition I have, for likewhat the purpose of a covenant
is is a sacred agreement betweenGod and individuals or humanity
, often involving promises,often involving promises,
conditions and signs.
Yes, so it's like a condition.

(05:12):
It's still a part of a covenant, because a covenant is a
promise.
Covenant is a promise, acondition and sign.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
You can put your mic back some.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Oh, am I talking too loud?

Speaker 1 (05:25):
No, you just was.
You was directly in it oh butum, yes, that's true, and so we
see multiple examples ofcovenants in the bible, but
specifically, I think the focusis on relationship covenants,
because this is a relationshippodcast, so I don't think people

(05:47):
realize that you can createcovenants within relationships
yeah, or just given like anoverall view of what god, what
we see in the bible as god'scovenant with man, and how not
honoring those covenants orhonoring those covenants, what

(06:10):
will come?

Speaker 2 (06:11):
come about.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
And so I think let's start there, something that we
can go ahead and unpack.
Every sexual relationship formssome type of covenant, and so
each time you engage in a sexualrelationship, whether casual or
committed, you create acovenant, an agreement that

(06:36):
binds you to that personspiritually, emotionally and
physically, and relationshipsoutside of god's design can
create spiritual entanglements.
So we could start there right.
Um, I don't think we realize inin a culture that's just so

(06:59):
open to casual, especially nowwe have what they call the
hookup culture.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, so we have-, I guess, if that's still what they
call it.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
I don't know, we're so far removed, but I know that
it was situationships, yeah,instead of relationships.
So it's like you're not in acommitted relationship but you
get some of the benefits of that, and so it is similar to like a
hookup culture.
I don't know what they call itnow, but it's just the idea of

(07:27):
having casual sex.
And so what people don'trealize is when you partake in
casual sex, you are creatingcovenants and because we're so
far removed from the spiritualaspect of things, we don't
realize the spiritualimplementations and how that
negatively impacts us yeah,because you're coming out of
agreement with god's word andwhat he says, because I think

(07:48):
it's in leviticus where he talksabout sexual relationships.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
It's a whole chapter.
I don't really remember what umchapter or verse it was, but he
talks um.
God specifically speaks againstall type of sexual acts that
you should not commit, and Ijust lost my train of thought.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
No, it's, it's.
The Bible says what I thinkit's in Hosea.
I might be wrong, but we canalways put cliff notes or put
notes in.
It says my people perishbecause of the lack of knowledge
, right.
So with that we don't realizethat even if you don't know

(08:29):
right, you're still heldaccountable.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
You're still held accountable.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
We were just reading that last night and I don't
remember.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Hosea 4 and 6 is where it says that.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Was it.
Yeah Well, my people perish, mypeople perish because of lack
of knowledge.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
King James Version says my people are destroyed of
lack of knowledge.
King James Version says mypeople are destroyed for lack of
knowledge.
Because thou hast rejectedknowledge, I will also reject
thee that thou shalt be nopriest to me, seeing thou hast
forgotten the law of thy God, Iwill also forget thy children.
And so that was King James.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
What came to me was what we were talking about
yesterday, where Paul wasspeaking about just because you
didn't know and I was talkingabout the covenant with Jesus.
What was that?

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Was that Ephesians that we was reading, I think
that was Ephesians.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
That was Ephesians.
Ephesians 6.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I think that was.
Ephesians, that was.
Ephesians, ephesians 6.
I believe it was.
Did we write it down as anexample?

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I don't think so.
I think we were just talking.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Continue your thought .
I'll find it, because it wassomething that I came across.
Well, what he was saying wasjust because you didn't know the

(10:13):
laws, it didn't make you exemptfrom the consequences, or
you're able to like, repent andreconcile with God so that the
Holy Spirit can write those lawsand everything on your heart
and your mind instead of beingwritten on stone.
You're referring to Ephesians 2, verse 11, started verse 11.
This is NLT.
It says don't forget that yougentiles used to be outsiders.
You were called uncircumcisedheathens by the jews, who were
proud of their circumcision,even though it affected only

(10:34):
their bodies and not theirhearts.
In those days, you were livingapart from christ.
You were excluded fromcitizenship among the people of
israel and you did not know thecovenant promises god had made
to them.
You lived in this world withoutGod and without hope, but now
you have been united with ChristJesus.
Once you were far away from God, but now you have been brought

(10:54):
near to him through the blood ofChrist, and we do have.
There is the scripture thattalks about the law being
written on your heart.
Yeah.
But that we was talking aboutthat last night, about the law
being written on your heart,yeah, but that we was talking
about that last night and whatwe was referring to and was
skipping ahead.
It was just simply that youknow these covenants still exist
.
Yeah.
Whether you realize them or not.

(11:15):
Yeah.
The covenant still exists, and Ithink the challenge becomes
sometimes we don't realize thatthe enemy is obsessed with being
like God.
So there's illegal covenantsthat you can create with the
enemy as well, and so that digsinto the next part.
Marrying someone outside ofGod's will forms an illegal

(11:38):
contract or covenant If you'rein a marriage that God never
intended for you.
This covenant holds no divinerecognition, and instead it is
recognized by Satan.
Right, that is a lot.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, and we see that a lot in the Bible.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
That is a lot.
That is a think about that,because unfortunately we have
culture and we touched on thisbefore.
We have culture that teaches usyou can get married to whomever
.
Right and.
God will recognize it.
And the scripture that they useout of context is Paul, when
Paul touched on marriages andrelationships.

(12:16):
And what's that scripture?
Let's find that and read that.
Go ahead, babe.
What are your thoughts on that?
As I look for that scripture,no, you're right.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Your thoughts on that as I look for that scripture.
No, you're right.
It's crazy that last part thatI said out that your covenant
holds no divine recognition andinstead is recognized by Satan.
So in the spirit realm yourmarriage might be physical like
you have a physical, naturalmarriage, right but it's not
recognized in the spirit and soyou're with someone that God
didn't intend for you to be with, and so that gives the enemy

(12:49):
legal rights to say, hey, thesetwo aren't supposed to be
together.
They're doing things they'renot supposed to be doing.
So I'm just going to wreakhavoc.
And we see multiple examples ofrelationships or marriages in
the Bible that is recognized bySatan and not recognized by God

(13:10):
and punished Like Solomon, rightKing Solomon, when he had all
those wives the promise was tiedto God's covenants Like Solomon
would have been blessed, hisdescendants would have been
blessed if he would have stuckwith the covenant but he decided

(13:34):
not to and he started marryingall these different women
outside of who were worshippingother gods, which is something
that God asked us not to do.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Well, I think what we don't understand is that simply
because things are permitted,and you can do.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
It doesn't mean that it's okay.
No, absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
We have to look back to the original design of how
God intended for things to be,and we have to also understand
that there is a God, little g,of this world.
The Bible refers to him as theprince of this world.
Satan and that he is obsessedwith being like God, and so

(14:24):
everything is the same, becauseit's the spirit.
So if God is creating covenants, then the enemy can too.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, because anything outside of God's will
is agreement with the enemy.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
And God's original design for us was to be fruitful
and multiply.
And you touched on this beforehe wanted us to uh create
children, offsprings, that werelike us that worshipped him
uh-huh and so the enemy createdin his image exactly so.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
The enemy desires for us to do the opposite so we
start creating little satan'srun around here, creating in his
, created in his image we don'trealize it because it's like we
don't say hell sat Satan oranything like that.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
But unknowingly, when you're selfish, when you're
doing all of these things thatyou're doing, the Bible tells us
who your father is.
Even with us, when we were inthat, the Bible tells us who our
father was who we looked up to.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
And so.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
But God gives us these covenants and these
promises and conditions so thatwe won't fall into the hands of
the enemy.
Yes, because I was reading evenin the Bible.
God said that even in thebeginning in Genesis, before the
flood.
He was talking to Noah, but Iknow he was saying that even

(15:42):
won't go forward completelysubmitting ourselves into evil,
wickedness.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Well, I think so.
Here's the thing, and I'm notgoing to read all this, but I
wanted to do this before I moveon.
Uh, people read because it'stoo much to read.
Read, um, first corinthians 7.
If you read first corinthians 7this is what you were talking
about earlier it'll let you knowthat there are instances where

(16:39):
pa is stating that it's Paulspeaking and not God.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Right and that was a revelation that I got Was that
last year, when we were readingit, and we read it so many times
.
But I was like, oh, this isPaul speaking.
This isn't God speaking.
This isn't coming from God,it's just the wisdom of Paul.
You know, and I mean, allwisdom comes from God, but Paul
made it clear that he didn'thave it when Paul was saying

(17:02):
that this was Paul speaking andnot God.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
what he was saying is I don't have a revelation on
this- Right.
This isn't something that isgiven to me directly by God.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Right, so you keep bugging me.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
So I will speak on it , because you keep asking me
about it, right?
But I don't have a revelationon relationships, right?
The revelation on relationshipscan be found in Genesis 1 and 2
.
Genesis 2, specifically, that'sthe revelation on relationships
.
We moved away from it, and whenyou move away from it, you get
caught up in other stuff, sothat digs back into everything

(17:33):
that we're talking about as faras illegal covenants versus
covenants that were designed andcalled by God.
Right.
Right that were designed andcalled by God Right, and it's
hard to so what we're not saying.
You have to have the wisdom ofGod.
This is specifically for thosewho aren't married Basically

(18:01):
just kind of saying hey, it'sreally important that we
prioritize being mindful ofbeing led by the spirit of God
in all that we do.
The first thing that you shoulddo is focus on having a
relationship with God, becauseit's such an important decision
and you can't get it wrong.
There's one person out therethat God has called you to.
There's so many people that hehas not and his consequences
associated with going the wrongroute.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Absolutely, and we've seen it time and time again,
whether you witness or not.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Those are all of the examples.
We'll get into that, but thisis another part.
Having children with someonewhom God did not intend for you
to marry creates additionalillegal covenants.
This is significant becausethese covenants not only bind
you and your spouse.
This is significant becausethese covenants not only bind
you and your spouse, but alsoinvolves the next generation in

(18:43):
a spiritual contract that is notfrom God.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Right.
So you end up birthing ageneration that's divided
between the kingdom of light andthe kingdom of darkness, just,
like Abraham and Sarah, and youhave examples of that, if you
want to get into that.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Relationships, are we jumping ahead?
Relationships, examples ofrelationships ordained by God
versus relationships that werenot ordained by God, because I
know you did a deep dive intothat.
What do you mean?
You did a deep dive intorelationships that were not
ordained by God.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
Oh yeah, I did and the confusion it caused.
I did.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Abraham being one with Ishmael.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Abraham birthed a child through Hagar.
And it was outside of God'splan and birthed Ishmael.
And.
Ishmael was a direct rival ofIsaac, who was God's promise.
So you have light and you havedark.
But then there's, I think, allhope is is not lost, even though

(19:46):
he got caught up because youknow I I mean ishmael was still
blessed no, I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
I'm referring to david and uh basheba yeah,
solomon yeah david was notsupposed to be with basheba no,
he was supposed to be withabigail yes, but God still
allowed the grace of him, of God, to fall upon Solomon, and he
still blessed Solomon comingfrom them.
So there are still examples towhere it can be, but it's just

(20:11):
you get into the thick of itwhen you start making decisions
outside of God, and so we haveplenty of examples of those that
made decisions outside of God,versus a few examples of those
that made decisions based off ofGod when you make those
decisions.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Outside of God there's no protection, there is
no favor there.
But in those descendants,children that you have, if they
do follow God, then there willbe provision.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
They can access the covenants, yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
But if they don't, then everything that was cursed
in that family from thebeginning is going to continue.
Yeah, and it's just going toget worse.
And we saw that if you read inKings 1 Kings, 2 Kings, all the
kings who were disobedient toGod, their child, it would say

(21:04):
that they were even worse thantheir father in God's eyes.
And then the next one would beeven worse and worse and worse
in God's eyes.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Well, I think we know that it's very important that
we understand covenants, and sothere was something I was
thinking about that came to mewith regard to children.
Continue with the comeback.
Okay, the comeback.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Children.
Being you mean like adescendant from an ungodly
relationship.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
I'll come back to it okay we'll continue with your
thought.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
I'm done with my thought.
It's just so much information.
I just honestly, and you'reprocessing through all of it.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
I'm processing through all of this and it's
only about so much that can begiven in an hour podcast
absolutely like there's.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
there's so much disobedient relationships.
I hear Abraham and Hagar.
You have Solomon and hisforeign wives, then you have,
you know, samson and Delilah.
Delilah was actually aPhilistine and so, oh, we talked
about this.
I need to go back all the wayto the covenant.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
You even have his wife before Delilah that he
married that was also aPhilistine.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Was she a Philistine too?
She was a a philistine.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Okay, it's the ungodly kingdom yes um the
canaanite he just wentcompletely against god, he saw
it.
That's what I was saying.
Oh yes, thank you, holy spirit.
So, um, what happens?
Right, and it's so simple.
But we make fleshly decisionsand when you make fleshly
decisions, you place yourself upunder that fleshly contract.

(22:45):
So you think of strife, youthink of discord, you think of
all of the things that Galatians5 speaks of Correlation.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
sexual immorality.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
And what you do is now you open yourself up to all
of those things.
You open your child,unfortunately, up to all of
those things because you areoutside of God's perfect will
for your life.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Right.
So there's no protectionExactly For you or your child or
your children's children, oryour children's children, until
unless they they make a newcovenant.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Under Jesus Christ Right, and it's just like you
fall into the grace and mercy ofGod.
Begging God for mercy, Godbegging.
God for mercy we saw Davidbegging God for mercy when he
impregnated Bathsheba afterunaliving her husband, and so,
unfortunately, the child wastaken right and David had to get

(23:35):
up and keep moving.
He did have Solomon withBathsheba afterwards, but we see
that from a simple point thereis no protection.
God don't have to protect that.
God don't have to protectanything that's outside of his
perfect will.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Right, and you saw what happened.
When Solomon did not followGod's commandments, he fell.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, that's, very true.
And all his children, so we candig into, because I know a lot
of people use this Mm hmm, hefell yeah, that's very true and
all his children.
So we can, we can dig into,because I know a lot of people
use this Matthew 19, one throughsix, and we read this before
Right, and people use this a lotand I think it's also Mark two.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Mark 10 is the same thing.
When God has joined together,let no one separate.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Exactly so.
Do you want to read that?
Or Matthews 19, 1 through 6, ordo you want me to read it?

Speaker 2 (24:28):
You could read it if you got it pulled up, because I
already have a split.
My screen is split.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Okay.
So Matthew 19,.
Beginning at verse 1.
When Jesus had finished sayingthese things, he left Galilee
and went down to the region ofJudea east of the Jordan River.
Large crowds followed Him thereand he healed their sick.
Some Pharisees came and tried totrap Him with this question

(24:54):
Should a man be allowed todivorce his wife for just any
reason?
Haven't you read the Scripture?
Jesus replied they record thatfrom the beginning, god made
them male and female, and hesaid this explains why a man
leaves his father and mother andis joined to his wife, and the
two are united into one, sincethey are no longer two but one.

(25:16):
Let no one split apart what Godhas joined together.
So the problem that we find inthis is we have people in
marriages and people inrelationships that claim that
God has joined together that hehas not.
It's not.
When Jesus, he referred back tothe beginning, the original

(25:36):
plan that God had for marriagewith Adam and Eve.
And so when we dig into therelationship with Adam and Eve,
we see that God said it was notgood for man to be alone and
that God created.
He said I will find you ahelper.
That's what the scripture saysin Genesis 2.
He said I will find a helperthat is suitable for you.
And then the Bible says thatGod, he allowed a deep sleep to

(26:00):
fall upon Adam and he removedthe rib from Adam and he created
Eve and then he brought Eve toAdam.
So this is the plan of God.
God's plan is for him to bringsomeone to you.
God's plan is for him.
One of the things that Goddealt with me on here he gave me
a dream In 2023, I believe andin the dream I saw different

(26:21):
boxes Like you know, the matchshows, the matchmaking shows and
there was different men anddifferent women in different
boxes and it was like differentboxes will light up with the
same color and, as God was, itwas like it was a matchmaking
game show, and what God wasdealing with me on was that he
makes the decision on who comestogether as one.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
He chooses what husband goes or what man goes,
or what woman he blesses it.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
He blesses it once he chooses it.
It's not supposed to be ourchoice.
It's supposed to be his choice.
And he was dealing with me.
But hey, yeah, that's anotherstory.
And he was dealing with me.
But hey, yeah, that's anotherstory.
And so, with that being thecase, people use the scripture
and say, hey, because you aremarried, god has joined that
together.
And no, god has not joined thattogether, you joined that

(27:11):
together.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Right, and then you ask God to bless it, and then
you ask God to bless it, and hedoes not have to bless it.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
No, because he didn't join it.
And you wonder why you havecertain issues and problems
within your marriage, which iswhy we say from the beginning
you have to stop bringing God intowards the middle or the end.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
You have to have a faithful prayer life.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
You have to have a revelation too.
There has to be revelation.
We read scripture withoutrevelation.
We read scripture without beingled by the spirit of God, so we
miss these nuggets.
It's very simple.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
It's right there and you just want to do what you
want to do.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yes, which goes back to the fact that you don't make
Jesus your Lord and Savior.
You just want him to be yourSavior and you want him to be

(28:12):
Lord over some things, but noteverything thing.
And so that scripture, it onlyis, it's only.
How can I put this?
This scripture is only relevantwhen you actually fall into the
perfect will of God.
Outside of the perfect will ofGod.
God hasn't joined that together.
That's an illegal contract.
And if that's an illegalcontract and God hasn't joined
that contract together, then whojoined it?
Right.
If it's not God, then it's theenemy.
Right.
It's just the reality of whatit is, Whether we accept it or

(28:34):
not.
We are in a world where you areconsistently influenced by
something.
You're influenced by thekingdom of God or you're
influenced by the kingdom ofdarkness.
Right.
We know through scripture, whichis why I believe you should
study your scriptures, but itshould be under the inspiration
of the Holy spirit.
We know through scriptures, wesee examples of what solidifies

(28:57):
people who are being led by Godversus people who are not.
So people who are being led byGod versus people who are not.
So we touched on this thecovenant between God and man.
Right, I think it's reallyimportant that we express or and
I say this into the camera it'sreally important that we

(29:18):
understand the importance ofthat scripture emphasizing what
God joins together.
Yeah.
What God joins together.
If God has not joined ittogether, then God don't have to
bless it.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Right, just because you get married and you go
before a pastor and you have itwritten on paper, that doesn't
mean that you actually reallypresented this to God if you
don't have a relationship withhim.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
No, because God will guide you to that and it comes
from Adam, and we have toremember this.
Because men go out seeking forwives.
Adam wasn't seeking foranything.
Adam was complete in who he was.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah Well, you would know God will bless it before
you even get to the actualmarriage date.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
We have to get back to him leading.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
Like Isaac and Rebecca.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Yes, we have to get back to him leading, leading us
to that, leading not us doing,not us going the way we want to
go.
And we're spending a lot oftime on this because a lot of
people get this wrong.
Yeah, and there's so manydysfunctional families because
you're in relationships withpeople that God never intended.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
God didn't intend for you to have.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
And unfortunately, sometimes within the church
because of culture.
We hear so many leaders teachyou just get married.
As long as you're a Christianand she's a Christian, you're
fine.
Right, it's not true.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
No, it's not true, no , it's not true.

Speaker 1 (30:42):
No, and I'm sorry, your pastor can't bring two
people together because he's notGod.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
No, and nobody can bring two people together.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Your mom, your dad.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Your mom, your dad, you going on these dating shows?
Pop the balloon.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
It ain't happening Married at first sight, I'm
sorry.
None of that mess.
If it ain't, if it is notorchestrated or ordained by God,
it is not going to be somethingthat he will bless.
And you will deal with somestuff.
You will deal with some things,even if you don't think you're
dealing.
People go through a lot ofstuff.
It's so, especially asbelievers.

(31:16):
Why even try to go through lifewithout the grace and the mercy
and the glory of God?

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Without God.
Yeah, you just make out heremaking decisions on your own.
Exactly, you're moving, justlike the world.
We're supposed to be set apart.
And being set apart is beingled by the Holy Spirit.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
And that I think is guided by, and that I think this
being guided by God.
So I like this right here.
Listen to this Genesis 2, 18through 25.
Mm-hmm.
And we let's read this realquick, and then I'll jump into
this point, because that'sreally good.
I like that.
I like the way that's worded.
I like that.
So Genesis 2, verse 18, it saysThen the Lord God said it is

(32:03):
not good for the man to be alone.
I will make a helper who isjust right for him.
So the Lord God formed from theground all the wild animals and
all the birds of the sky.
He brought them to the man tosee what he would call them, and
the man chose a name for eachone.
He gave names to all thelivestock, all the birds of the
sky and all the wild animals,but still there was no helper

(32:25):
just right for him.
So the Lord God caused the manto fall into a deep sleep.
While the man slept, the LordGod took out one of the man's
ribs and closed up the opening.
Then the Lord God made a womanfrom the rib and he brought her
to the man At last.
The man exclaimed this one isbone from my bone and flesh from

(32:46):
my flesh.
She would be called a womanbecause she was taken from man.
This explains why a man leaveshis father and mother and is
joined to his wife and the twoare united into one.
Now the man and his wife wereboth naked, but they felt no
shame.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Two things here, and we can't dig into all of this
because no, but we dug into itin the first and second episodes
we did so you can go back tothe other episode, but I wanted
to read that because the pointthat was being made, and thanks
for keeping me on point.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
God created Eve as a helper for adam demonstrating
that marriage was initiated bygod.
This wasn't a human choice butgod's will, showing that the
proper covenant is one that isformed under God's design and
authority.
I love that, that is so good,that is so good, that is so.
I could just eat off of thatright, like by itself.

(33:45):
So for those who are like oh, Iwant to get married, I want to
do this, I want to do this, Iwant to do this.
Literally, the scripture showsus that a proper marriage is one
that was initiated and designedby god right he was the first
one to initiate marriage.
Adam didn't go to god saying,god, I want to be somebody adam

(34:07):
was pretty content with where hewas.
He didn't even realize that itwas anything missing, because he
had God.
God said that.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
And so now you know that God created marriage and
you're out here and you'refeeling like a piece of you is
missing because it is.
Because that's the way Goddecided.
But it's not an initiation foryou to go out and find this
missing piece.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
No, you completely immerse yourself in God and God
will get to a point of sayingyou know what.
You don't need to be alone.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
You don't need to be alone.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
I need to bring to you who I call to be in your
life, and there's two thingsthat we touched on this, I
believe, in the previous episode.
When you come to that personthat God has called you to be
there's women that man will beable to speak life into you.
God will show him who he'scalled for you to be.
He will have visions about you.

(35:05):
He will have dreams about whereGod wants you to go and what
God wants you to do in your life, because Adam spoke vision into
her.
He spoke life into you.
The second thing is men.
The bible tells us that, um,that a man that finds a wife, he
finds a treasure.
I think that's nlt.
Yeah, and he obtained favorfrom favor from god.

(35:27):
So, men there we have tounderstand as we go throughout
life.
There is a part of you that'sinside that woman that God
purposely placed there, that youare capped at what you can do
outside of her, because Adamlost a piece of himself, which
is why, when Eve was brought toAdam, the two became one.
He was reunited with a piece ofhimself.

Speaker 2 (35:50):
And there's grace in that relationship.
So you'll be able to deal withthose hardships that the world
deals with.
But there's grace there.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
You deal with it flawlessly.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
It's not even like a problem.
It's something that you can do.
You don't have to quit or giveup or do any of those things
Under the power of God?

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Yeah, because he extends that grace to that.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Right.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
So that's so good.
So, bae, we have a few examplesof relationships that's
ordained by God.
Do you want to go over those?
And you don't have to, you canjust give them the scripture
reference.
Oh, okay, right.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
I already talked about Abraham and Sarah, um
Isaac and Rebecca.
So Abraham sought, sought Godum God's guidance for finding a
wife for Isaac.
And um that union was blessedby God, producing Jacob right
and Esau.
Um, then you have Boaz and Ruth, who God ordained that marriage

(36:57):
also, god blessed that marriage.
They sought his approval and heblessed it, and that's the
bloodline of Jesus Christ comingthrough because they birthed
that bloodline birthed David,which birthed Jesus, birth that
that bloodline birth david,which birthed jesus.

(37:18):
Um, and so it's it's importantthat and we talked about this
last time is that we all have apurpose, right and so me and you
, we have a purpose.
God's put us together becausewe're supposed to birth
something, right, um?
And it's like, if you are outthe perfect, if you're outside
the perfect will of God in arelationship, you can birth
something that is not holy.

(37:40):
Yes, you can birth somethingthat's ungodly, and we see it in
relationships.
We see children, we see alltype of all things.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Generational curses yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
All things outside of God's perfect will, you can
birth.
We're not just talking about aphysical child.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Yeah, From a spiritual perspective, all
things you deal with theconsequences your birthing
idolatry, your birthing sexualimmorality, your birthing anger
your birthing, pride yourbirthing, All these things are
not of God.
Because you're moving outsidethe will of God.
Right, and I think you dug intoexamples of disobedient

(38:21):
relationships.
Abraham and Hagar yeah, theybirthed forth Ishmael.
Yeah, because Abraham and Sarahwas not willing to wait on the
promise.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
They got impatient and ishmael's descendants um
were.
They did a lot of ungodly nastythings um when you go
throughout history and read thebible and then you have esau
marriages.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Uh, this is genesis 26, 34 through 35.
Abraham and hagar is genesis 16, if you want to read it, boaz
and ruth is ruth 2 and ruth 4.
Isaac and Hagar is Genesis 16.
If you want to read it, Boazand Ruth is Ruth two and Ruth
four Isaac and Rebecca isGenesis 24.
Abraham and Sarah is Genesis17,.
Verse 15 through 19.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Continue, babe, so you have Esau marriages as well
right, you have Esau's marriagesand I have um going to detail,
Cause I really don't remember,Cause there's so many.
I was just up all night justgoing through all these
covenants that was made in theBible.
But then you have Solomon andall his wives.
Which we're very familiar withyeah, first Kings in 11.

(39:28):
Then you also have Ahab andJezebel.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Ahab- was the king of Israel, and jezebel.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
And jezebel is huge.
Right, she was a phoenicianprincess, so completely outside
of the perfect will of god, incomplete and she wreaked havoc
she did?
she wreaked havoc withworshiping bell bow yeah, yeah,
but this all but that, that allcame from.
And I talked about this lastnight with Noah and his son, him

(39:58):
, when he cursed him, son.
Canaan which birthed theBabylonian kingdom, which all
these, which which is basicallythe kingdom of darkness.
And so you have all these menand women of God, men of God
right Marrying these women whoare from that kingdom.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
And side note as well , when we speak on Baal, this
isn't just a statue.
These gods are real.
They're demons.
They're deities, they're real.
They're not fake, they're real,but continue.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Oh, no Good.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
And so these are different examples of uh
covenants that were created,that were ordained by god yeah
versus covenants that werecreated that weren't ordained by
god right and it created somuch division that we still see
to this day a lot of division.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
It birthed something really, really nice.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
It birthed kingdoms that were, that were just
downright nasty and disgustingand it was so interesting
because um isaac and rebecca isone of the earliest examples,
the servant of isaac I mean theservant of, uh, abraham.
He consulted with god becausehe's like, abraham gave him the
duty of finding a wife for isaac, and he's like I don't know how

(41:10):
to do this.
Yeah, and so he's like god, ifyou have, can you give me a sign
?
Right, and God gave him a signwhich led to Isaac being married
to Rebecca.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
So I thought that was so important that even in those
instances just leaning on thespirit of God.
But you have to be very careful, because people ask for signs
all the time.
Yeah Right, and so withAbraham's servant who asked God
for a sign, it was still withinthe confinements of the covenant
that God made with Abraham.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Yeah, it was because he went to the specific people.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Because he went to his specific people.
He didn't get anyone from theCanaanites because they were
ungodly.
And so just because you ask Godfor a sign and you get a sign,
you have to go back to theorigin, like what does this sign
actually mean?
What is it representing?
Because the enemy can come andget exactly because the enemy

(42:04):
can come and give you a sign allthe time.
He gives signs all the time.
He gives signs all the timepeople like I know.
This is of god, god we got thesame chain on, we were in the
same place, we went to the sameschool.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Oh you, gotta be, and it's just that feeling inside,
and then you dig into what it is.
Now you got to begin to diginto the meat of it, okay.
So what is it that attractedyou to her?
Oh, she was sexy.
That's a red flag.
Yeah.
Because the Bible tells us whatGod doesn't judge by the outer
appearance, he judged by theheart.
So that's a flag.
Now you start digging intosaying, okay, is this something

(42:39):
that was of God?
Yeah.
Which is another conversation,another episode, but okay that's
good.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
I just thought it was important to point that out.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Because he did ask for a sign and God gave him
exactly what he asked for, butit was only in the confinements
of God's covenant that hepromised to.
Abraham that he would have onlydescendants in that land.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Of Canaan, but not with the Canaanites.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
So I think we can now move on Misunderstanding our
role in marriage.
We often think that we have theliberty to choose who we marry,
or that God will bless anyrelationship we bring before him
.
This is a misunderstanding.
Just as God brought Eve to Adam, it's God's will that we should

(43:28):
guide our choices in marriage.
Why are you looking like that?
Like what.
You're smiling, you guys wantto say no, I mean, we were just.
You know, we were talking aboutthat we were yeah, but just
kind of to bring it in.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
I like that yeah, you like the way you worded it.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Yes, I like that.
Um, I like that because it isand it's just an example in
general, but speaking, speakingin terms of relationships, we do
think that we just have controlto do whatever we want to do.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yeah, I think that's.
The unfortunate thing is thatwe think that we can do whatever
we want to do.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
And we can't.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
No.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
And so I thought that was that was really good.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
No, our life is not our own.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
The thing is, and this is so dangerous, our life
is not our own.
The thing is, and this is sodangerous.
This is the next point.
Once a covenant is formed, itis a spiritual binding or it is
spiritually binding, even if weenter into a marriage or

(44:36):
relationship outside of God'swill.
The spiritual implementationsare serious, creating illegal
covenants that can lead tospiritual consequences, and
because we aren't tapped intothe things of the spirit.
We don't realize how seriousthat is.
We just you know what we seethe natural right Women.
You get married to a man.
That's abusive Right.
Consequences of that you have achild with him.
He started abusing the child.
All right Now you begin tocreate a generational curse,

(45:00):
amongst other things, and how hewas abusive to you, he could be
even more abusive to that saidchild and people don't like to
use the word generational curse,but it's the reality of what it
is.
It's a curse.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
It's like if it's something that happens to
everyone in the family.
That is a curse, that'ssomething in your bloodline,
even everyone in the family.
It's a curse that is agenerational curse.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
That's something in your bloodline.
Even when I look at mybloodline, I could trace back in
my bloodline example afterexample, after example of abuse
or whatever may have you.
Every single person wentthrough it, yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Every single time Saying rape in minds.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Yeah, it's just the reality of what it is.

Speaker (45:32):
Great-great-grandmother , mother, sister.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
We have to be really careful because there are
serious consequences to thecovenants that we bind ourselves
to.
And the enemy is so connivingthat he's like, oh, it's just
sex, it's not that serious,you're not married to him,
you're just having sex and youcan have protective sex Right,
so you're good and it's likethat serious?

Speaker 2 (45:56):
You're not married to them, you're just having sex
and you can have protective sexRight, so you're good and it's
like no and nothing's going tohappen to you.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Nope, you didn't get pregnant.
You're good, but you don't knowwhat you've set yourself up as
far as from a spiritualperspective, no because now you
opened yourself up to shame nowconnects to you, and you have a
covenant that the enemy is goingto eventually try to collect on
.
Yeah, so that's something thatwe have to be really mindful of.

(46:23):
And so you want to read thatnext point, bate.
What.
The need for alignment withGod's will.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Yeah, so it's crucial to seek God's guidance when
entering into a marriage or acommitted relationship.
Marriage is not merely apersonal or social contract, but
a spiritual covenant thataligns God's design for our
lives.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
We have to realize how important marriage is.
So I think the most importantdecision you can make is
accepting Jesus as your Lord andSavior.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yes, next to that I believe it's you getting married
and who you get married toMarriage is so important because
, if it wasn't, I don't believethat the Bible would refer to
the church as Christ's bride.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Refer to the church as Christ's bride, and also in
Ephesians 4, I believe, orEphesians 5, refer to the
importance of understanding thatwe are a reflection.
Your marriage is a reflectionof that relationship between
Christ and the church Right.
So it's very vital, it's very,very important, and the enemy
knows this, which is why heattacks it.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
He attacks relationships, starts them very,
very important, and the enemyknows this, which is why he
attacks it.
He attacks relationships,starts them very, very early.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
He knows it.
That's why he attacks it somuch, because he knows how
important it is to the design ofeverything.
Yeah.
To the design of everything isvery important.
You're honestly.
We touched on this before.
What you're doing isreplicating what God already did
.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Right, you're being fruitful and multiplying.
It's just where are you beingfruitful and multiplying?

Speaker 1 (48:03):
at.
But that's why and we talkedabout this before in a previous-
episode why the enemy attackedEve before she got impregnated,
before she was able to bringforth a seed Right.
So every single seed after thatwas tainted.
Yep, he negatively impactedwhat God had, and even Adam
allowed him to do that, and hestill tries to do that to this

(48:24):
day.
He tries to get to you beforeyou get to where God has called
you to be.
So he can negatively, or so hecan taint that when it's still
God's desire for us to bringforth seeds that worship him,
seeds that know him, seeds thathave a relationship with him, to
spread forth his kingdom onearth.
Yeah.
And the enemy knows that and hefights against it he does, but

(48:46):
God forewarns us every time.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
He forewarned Eve and Adam.
Don't eat from that tree, heforewarned Cain.
He always forewarned us.
We just don't eat from thattree, he forewarned Cain.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
He always forewarned us, we just don't listen.
He always tells us, likethere's always some type of
forewarning, and then we have toalso dig into the fact of this.
The Bible says my people perishbecause of the lack of
knowledge.
Paul talked about the covenantsthat exist.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Yeah, just because you don't know that the
covenants don't exist, it stillit still applies to you the
consequences of not followingthese covenants, because it's
right here in the bible itstarted way at the very, very
beginning of time.
Just because you didn't knowdoesn't mean that you, you, um,
don't suffer the consequencesyeah if, if I drive without a

(49:34):
license and I didn't know I wassupposed to have it and I get
pulled over, I'm going to jail.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah, Unfortunately you can't say oh, I just didn't
know the law and then like it'sthe law.
And so now I think we dig intothe new covenant and we're not
going to.
You got to be mindful of thisbecause that I think the new
covenant with Christ is such alengthy conversation that you

(50:03):
can have you what Christ did,the covenants that still exist,
the fact that it gives youaccess to those covenants
through Christ Jesus, becausebefore those covenants was only
accessible by the children ofIsrael, the Jews.

(50:24):
Post Christ dying and rising,post his death and resurrection,
his crucifixion, it uh, what.
One of the things it did is itopened it up for the gentiles to
have access to that covenant aswell.
And by accepting jesus as theirlord and savior and creating a

(50:47):
new covenant and this touches onthis right it says that with
christ's death on the cross, anew covenant was established,
but it did not nullify theprevious covenants God made with
Abraham, noah, moses, david, etcetera.
The key change is that itprovided access to God's
covenant through faith in JesusChrist, both Jews and Gentiles

(51:09):
can can be united, united inchrist, breaking down the walls
of division.
And so what christ did was soimportant that I think for me
there's something that came tomind, there's something that was
dropped in my spirit, that wehad to touch on a covenant that
was set in place during thecrucifixion, during Christ's

(51:35):
death, burial and resurrection,and so through that Jesus, he's
made peace between Jews andGentiles by creating one new
people.
That's Ephesians 2 and 15.
And this new unity is foundonly in Jesus Christ, who
reconciled both groups to Godand to one another.

(51:56):
And one of the main things thattook place through Christ is he
reconciled God to men, men toGod.
Right.
So, even as I'm touching on that, what are your thoughts on all
of this?

Speaker 2 (52:24):
thoughts on all of this.
No, it's just a um, a um youhave to have.
It's just an important piece oflife, just in general, going
through life, that there, thereare these covenants that god
created with humanity.
Because we know the purpose ofcovenants with, through humanity
and through individuals God cancreate a covenant with.
And, like we said before, justbecause you didn't know doesn't

(52:48):
mean you aren't held accountable.
But now you know, and now,through Jesus Christ, you can
help fulfill those promises thatgod, god had created with man
in the beginning and I thinkit's really important that we
understand covenants,specifically in relationships.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
I believe we should, especially for those who are.
You know.
We read some of the commentsand there are those who are
beginning their walk with Godagain, they're coming back to
God and so we are grateful forthat, that this podcast is
really placing a desire in youto reestablish a relationship

(53:30):
with God.
Or for those who did not knowGod and will come to know who
God is, I believe it's reallyimportant that, as we go on this
journey, we dig into the thingsthat we have access to and
understanding how differentthings work within the spirit
realm.
Yeah, from a biblicalperspective.

(53:51):
Yeah.
By, once again and I have toconsistently say this through
the inspiration of the holyspirit right.
Catch this by the spiritbecause we've said on so many
occasions the last episode wetouched on there are those and
that's religion who knowscripture but they lack
relationship right and if youknow scripture and you lack

(54:12):
relationship now, you lack thepower of God.
Right.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Because it's only through relationship.
You don't understand the powerof God Exactly.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
It's only through relationship that you have
access to the revelations.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Right and not to stare away from spiritual things
, because God is spirit, he's aspirit.
The Holy Spirit is a spirit.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Everything is accessible in the spirit.
The Bible touches on inGalatians 5, I believe.
The fruit of the spirit, yeah,spirit.
Yeah, spirit.
And so we know the scripturetouches on the spirit of fear.
We know the scripture toucheson the different spirits of God
the spirit of understanding, thespirit of knowledge, the spirit

(54:54):
of power, the spirit of the air.
Yeah, so it's all of thesethings, it's a spiritual thing,
right, and so I think that thekey thing right, because we were
jumping ahead, right is, andyou can read that, babe, the
covenants of God still stand.
Do you want to touch on that?

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Right.
The covenants of God stillstand.
So God's promises to Abraham,um, God's promises to Noah,
David, Moses, and you can goback and read all these
covenants, I believe Abraham,the covenant that God had with

(55:38):
Abraham you could find that inGenesis 12, 1 through 3, Genesis
15, Genesis 17.
And then with Noah, God made acovenant with Noah that he would
never destroy the earth byflood again.
That's why we have rainbows sothat we can remember that he

(55:59):
won't destroy us.

Speaker 1 (56:01):
When he come again, it will be by fire.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Right, that's why he said by flood.
He didn't say he wouldn'tdestroy us.
Again, he said that he wouldn'tdestroy us by flood, and that's
Genesis 9.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
And I was reading that and it was so interesting.
He said that he wouldn'tdestroy us by flood, and that's
Genesis 9.
And I was reading that and itwas so interesting because he
said, because people could say,well, there's floods that take
place, he said he wouldn'tdestroy all of mankind.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
All of mankind?
He wouldn't destroy all ofmankind, so all living creatures
he would not destroy by flood,yeah, but yes, it will probably
be through fire.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
No, the Bible says it probably be through fire.
No, the bible says it will beyes and so, um, I see we also
have generational impacts ofcovenants and we, as we're
touching on all this, we we'regiving you, I guess, kind of
like homework.
Just if you want to read it,you can yeah we recommend
reading it.
It just would for us to digthrough all of this.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
We would be here it would be so much we could do.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
This could be a series in itself.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
It could be and we maybe possibly in the future do
like some bible study orsomething like that.
But I mean, this is prettyin-depth, I think.
As far as a relationshippodcast goes, yeah, but
generational, you can seegenerational um impacts on
keeping God's covenants or beingobedient to his word all

(57:18):
throughout the Bible, and Ithink the one that I was really
touching on last night was thefamily after Adam and Eve, which
was Noah Um, and so God blessedNoah and his sons Um, but then

(57:44):
Noah cursed his son, him, which,because him was being
dishonorable, he didn't honorhis, his father Um, and because
he didn't honor his, his fatherum, and because he didn't honor
his father.
And we know that's a, that's acovenant agreement, a condition
that we have.
I'm your father and motherbecause if you don't, then um, I
think in the bible it says yourdays will be shortened, but

(58:05):
it's other things there's otherthing that there's.
I think there's two um passagesor two verses that speaks on
honoring your mother and fatherand what will happen to you and
your family if you don't.
And so when Noah cursed his son, grandson, his grandson, he

(58:26):
cursed his son.
Okay, by cursing his grandson,oh okay.
He couldn't curse him becausehim was already blessed by God
because he was part of God'scovenant.
Yeah, but he cursed his son bycursing his grandson.
He couldn't curse him becausehim was already blessed by God
because he was part of God'scovenant, but he cursed his son
because him didn't honor him.
And you can go back and readwhat happened.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Cursed his grandson.
He cursed his grandson, yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
Because his son didn't honor him.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Noah was on that.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Noah was like I'm going to curse you honor him.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
No, it was on that noah was like I'm going to curse
you.
She and I think that digs intoalso let's be careful with our
words, especially as believers,because our words carry power.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
They do and for noah to curse his son at the
beginning of time.
It still is care.
That curse is still carrying iton, because from noah's
grandson, canaan, he birthed theBabylonian kingdom, which was
always in odds with God's people.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
And that's the beauty of the blood of Jesus Christ,
that's the beauty of the newcovenant with Christ.
But you have to, because thenew covenant does away with
curses Once you, but it's aprocess you have to go through
to free yourself of those curses.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Yeah, but the thing is is that God is greater?
Because when Noah cursed hisgrandson, he said that his
grandsons will always be aservant to the descendants of.
How do you say Japheth?
I don't know how to say hisname but, his other two sons,

(59:55):
but his other two sons, shem andJapheth.
So all of Canaan's descendantswill always be servants.
But so that knows that.
That tells you that God's poweris greater.
But there will always be abattle, because that servant is
trying not to be a servant toyou.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
And so I think takeaway from this is covenants
are so important.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Honoring covenants and being obedient.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Being obedient to God is so important.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Because there's blessings and curses.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Yeah, yeah, and whether you realize it or not,
you still fall under it, whetheryou realize it or not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Your family falls under it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
And the conniving thing about the enemy is he
knows that, which is why hetries to consistently place us
in a position of beingdisobedient to God, because he
knows the ramifications of whatkind of lies within that.
And so I think it's alsoimportant that we also touch on

(01:01:04):
the fact again that the enemy,while there's covenants that you
can make with God, that Godmake with man, there's also
covenants the enemy make withman too.
Right.
Because he's obsessed with beinglike God.
So he's mimicked the kingdom ofGod.
We touched on this in theprevious episode, or, I think,
two episodes ago.
He mimicked the kingdom of God.
So the kingdom of darkness isbasically a carbon copy of the

(01:01:30):
kingdom of God, without thepower, because he's not as
powerful as God is, he's limitedand it's an illegal contract,
it's like a backdoor and so,yeah, I think how would you
summarize this, babe, as we arecoming to an end, because we
touched on a bunch of greatstuff today?

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
We did, we did, we did.
I think it's important to, Iguess, emphasize the importance
of prayer and discernment whenyou're choosing a partner,

(01:02:10):
because you don't know if you'regoing to be birthing blessings
or you're going to be birthingcurses.
And so we see an example, likewith Abraham, and sent his
servant, prayed and asked Godhey, you know, can you find me a
wife for my son Isaac?
And they birth blessings, right, um, I think.

(01:02:35):
I think that's my takeaway,honestly.
Um it's submitting everythingto repenting and seeking.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
God's grace Um but it's not become illegal
covenants also.
Yeah, but don't become heavilyfocused on um marriage.
Yeah, but don't become heavilyfocused on marriage.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
No, the main thing is having a relationship with
Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
And being focused on that.
And as you focus on that,everything else will flow
accordingly.
Right Because then your prayersWill mimic what he wants for
you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Yeah, your prayers will be a desire of what God
designed for you to have, and italso will give you discernment.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Yes, god will give you wisdom and discernment so
that whenever, whenever he isspeaking to you, you know that
it's him speaking and you knowthat it's not the enemy so you
would desire what god desire,and then, when you hear god
speaking or when you hear avoice because the enemy will
speak to you too you will beable to recognize the voice of
your father.
You'll be able to recognize thevoice of your Lord and Savior,
jesus Christ, versus the voiceof the enemy.

(01:03:38):
Voice is the voice of theprince of this world versus the
voice of the culture which isled by the prince of this world.
Yeah.
So we have to be really carefulin having that relationship with
the Father, accepting Jesus asour Lord and Savior and allowing

(01:04:00):
him to be Lord over every areaand every part of our lives.
So, yeah, I think that's a goodplace to end.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
I think so.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Okay, well, thank you for tuning in this week.
I pray that this has been ablessing to you all.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
I know it was a lot to unpack and we're still
processing all of thisinformation.
Yeah, we knew.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
I think it's interesting because you said
four episodes and I thought fourepisodes is what it would take
if we were to try to unpack this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Yeah it would take four episodes to kind of get
through all of this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Yes, because it's so much information Like really
just get to the meat of it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
We kind of just summarize some of the things.

Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
It's so much more stuff that we Kind of glossed
over.

Speaker 2 (01:04:40):
But the main takeaway is to not get into a
relationship unless God calledyou to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Yes.
But you won't know that unlessyou are in a relationship with
him, with guys, and this buildsoff everything else that we've
been discussing over the pastfew episodes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Since we started this , so also go back and listen to
those.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
They're beneficial.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
They are.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
And so thank you again for tuning in, and until
next week one of the things Iwould say that if this is
something that's blessing you,let other people know about it.
Yeah.
We we're not really concernedwith how many people follow or
things like that.
We're concerned when we getinto the right people.
Yeah.
So, if this is being a blessingto you, let people know about
it, share it with them, and ifthis is being a blessing to you,

(01:05:27):
definitely blessing to you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
definitely subscribe, yeah, so you can you know, be
um tapped in what was going on.
Yeah, anything you want to add,babe?
No, because god is speaking tous.
We are not doing this on ourown.
No, we aren't doing this forviews.
We're not doing this to getpaid it was not our, it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
It wasn't what we had planned for our lives is what's
what God told us he wanted usto do.
And like I said at thebeginning of the episode, we
struggled with it for quite sometime.
We as well, in a way, walked indisobedience and we had to
repent for that because westruggled with doing this.
But we understand theimportance of doing this.
And so we will be committed tothat.

(01:06:08):
So yeah, until next week.
You all enjoy your week.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
All right, bye-bye.