March 19, 2025 • 52 mins
Bobby Bones and Matt Cassel start with players working through offseason training and recovery and how wives can play a part. Texans WR Nico Collins drops by with an update on his hamstring and the process of installing a new offensive coordinator. Nico relives playing at Michigan under Jim Harbaugh then being drafted into the NFL. What expectations does Nico have for this season in Houston?
After talking about the craziest fanbases in the NFL, we play 'What Were They Like' with Matt telling a fun story about Doug Flutie and his drop kick PAT. Bobby chimes in with his Bear Grylls experience.
Bobby and Matt begin a 'Sports Movie Draft' by drafting their leader of the teams, followed by their athletic freaks and enforcers.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is
a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
We got lots to say, We got.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Lost to say.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
What a begger here?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
And we hope you stay because we got lost to say, yeah,
we got lost to say, now.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Here's Bobby that?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
What's up? Everybody? Welcome to another episode coming up. We
have wide receiver Nico Collins, who is just a straight stud.
We'll talk to him about his upcoming season with Texans
and mostly if he's like back from being injured. It's weird, Matt, Like,
when you're injured and you're a pro athlete, there's a
fine line of pushing it but also stopping so you
(00:56):
can get back as fast as possible. Do you ever
hit that line exactly right? Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
You know, I think it's probably something that every individual's
a little bit different. But you're always trying to push
yourself so you can get back as quick as possible
and get back into like the OTAs the off season training,
and it's based on your injury and also the feedback
that you have to give and be very open with
with your trainers, the medical staff and everything like that.
(01:22):
But the minute you do start pushing too hard and
then you set yourself back. Well, that's what you're trying
to avoid at all costs. So there's a happy medium
because obviously the recovery and these injuries now that used
to be nine months, You see guys coming back in
four to five months, and so the methods of training
(01:43):
and recovery has changed dramatically, and also the different details
that they use and the sports science and everything else
has evolved.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
So you're absolutely.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Able to see guys come back at a much quicker rate,
But you just don't want to ever sacrifice that into
injuring yourself again and setting yourself back in the process.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, I feel like if it were a contract year,
like there are probably a lot of variables. If it's
your first year in a new contract, you're probably handling
it different based on your security. Would there be accuracy
in that statement.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
One hundred percent? I mean, if you're coming up on
a contract year. I remember, even when I was in
New England, I sublux my kneecap, which means it came
out of place and went back in And I already
had surgery on this thing when I was in college
because I did just that. But my knee was swollen
like crazy, but I knew I got to play that year.
Things went well, thought I might be up for a
(02:38):
bigger contract, so I wasn't going to say anything because
they were saying that you potentially need to go get
a scope, do this, that and the other. But I
was like, no chance, because if all of a sudden,
you go in and you have that injury that you
can get through but it's not significant to where you
have to have surgery, then you try to fight that
because you don't want teams to look at you and go, well,
(03:00):
he's got the injury, so we're not going to pay him,
or we were going to go a different direction because
he's injured. You have to kind of work through some
of that stuff, and then after you get that contract,
it might be a little bit different. You might be
able to take a little bit more time because you
don't feel like that sense of urgency the rush because
you've been paid, and that's just that's human nature.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
My last contract in media with the company iHeartRadio because
my last deal was a five year deal before the
one that I'm in now, which is similar, but I
was in the last year of my deal and it's
This is something I haven't talked about a whole lot,
but it's similar in that I didn't want them to know.
But I woke up one morning, and this is probably
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sixteen months before my deal was up, but the negotiation
starts with over a year left, because there are so
many small details inside of it, and so I didn't
want them to know. But I woke up and I
couldn't read one morning, meaning I remember like nothing happened
to me except for when I opened my eyes that
(04:01):
morning and I open my computer to start working on
the show on the radio show, which I wake up
at like three thirty or four in the morning. I
couldn't read the screen, and I thought, well, this is bizarre.
I have a terrible vision anyway, my ride eye doesn't work,
so I just thought maybe this is a vision thing.
I get to work, I still can't read. My thoughts
aren't really connecting, and I remember going to my coast
(04:23):
and going, hey, you have to cover something. Draw in
my eyes, like that's what I said, just to get
through it. And so she's like cool, and so she
covers me the whole show. I call my doctor and
he's like, hey, I think you should go see a neurologist.
So I go to neurologist and they do all this
stuff to me on these tests, and he says to
me at the time, he says, hey, I think you
had a seizure in your sleep and this could happen
(04:44):
at any time. And I'm like, well, that sucks in
my sleep and it could happen at anytime, Like what
led to this seizure in my sleep? And he's like,
there's one hundred variables, he said, so let's just knock out,
you know, make sure you're eating right. It's very general
because this neurology wasn't like my close doctor. So okay, cool.
(05:06):
I slowly, it takes about three weeks to where I
can actually read words on a page again, I could
get them a little bit. I still I wasn't not
my brain wasn't connecting, and I wasn't telling anybody who
worked about this because I again, it's basically a contract here.
And so it happens again. And I remember saying on
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the show, I was like, I have a crazy brain fog.
Now this is like twelve months now, this is a
few months, four or five months later, I had crazy
brain fog. I said it on the air, and I
think I was struggling a little with communication. And there
were things at the time, not everything, but there were
things like I would see this yellow thing on the
table and I would go, I know what that's called.
I just can't place it. This yellow thing was a banana, right,
(05:50):
It's something that we see all the time every day.
But I didn't know the name of the banana. And
so I was like, man, this is bizarre. Maybe I
had another seizure in my sleep. At the time, I
was doing idle and they asked me to go and
be on Dance with the Stars, and so I go over,
I want to Dance with the Stars, and I remember
(06:11):
I couldn't remember any steps on the show the whole time,
Like I couldn't remember I have a pretty good memory,
but I could remember no steps. Wasn't a good dancer anyway,
But I had to muscle memory everything, which means two
or three hours for somebody turned in like nine or
ten for me. Because whatever your brain does to memorize things,
I didn't have it. I couldn't rememberple's names. So it
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happens one other time and my wife, who we had
just started dating, and I was telling her about this
because one had happened a few months prior to meeting her.
She was like, hey, that ain't normal. This has happened
three times. I'm like, yeah, but I can't. I don't
want to tell work because I don't want them to
think this guy that we're paying a lot of money
to be able to think and create and be compelling
and be funny, that he can't do it. So I'm
(06:55):
hiding the injury basically, just like someone uh with a
hurt knee like you mentioned with you and so we
connect with the neurologists, like my agent's like, hey, I
know somebody whose dad's in a URALA. Just turns out
I had blood clotting in my brain. I had three
small strokes over like five years, and oh my gosh, exactly.
I didn't know that because I wasn't trying to even know,
because I was like, if I don't know, I'm not
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holding back and all my company to know. And so I,
you know, got on medicine. I still a little bit
doal with it. I can tell the I'm having really
bad days, but I hid it because I did not
want my company to know I had had these three
they're called a schemias, blood clotting in my brain, many
strokes to where they would go, well, we don't think
we can pay them what we think for the same
(07:40):
exact freaking reason, because I thought they're gonna think that
I don't have the capacity to perform at a high
level the high level I've been performing yet, so I
hid the crap out of it. Now, had this been
year one of my contracts, I'd have been like, I'm
having strokes. I'm having strokes. It's I need out it
here for four months. But that's tough. That's that's the
(08:02):
closest I've ever been to a pro athlete trying hide
a kne injury right there.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
I mean, that's a little bit more serious.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
When you can't remember what a banana oh yeahs or
the names of people, that's pretty weird and at the
same time really scary, and that would make me like
super afraid, like what's going on here? At the same time,
like you said, when it comes down to these corporate
groups or a team or anything like that, any little
thing that they can put a liability claim or something
(08:28):
like that into your contract that says if he has
another one, we don't have to pay him, or he
has to pay back the moneys that we've already paid him,
or something like that, where you're just trying to avoid
that at all costs because you're right there at the
finish line to finish the contract, and you're like, well,
I don't want them, obviously to hold anything back because
I've earned this, but I do have a little bit
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of something here, a little baggage in your case, little
strokes that might impact that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, I didn't want them to go, Hey, we love
you and you've outperformed your last contract, but we don't
feel in all good faith we can pay you as
much as we would have with this quote injury that
you have now, because if I were the corporation, I
would do the same thing I was worried about them
doing to me. So yes, understood it just hit it
(09:16):
and I'm basically a pro bowler.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
That's what we're getting to, basically recovered, and we're all
good now and they are very happy. Now, did you
ever actually tell them about any of this or this
is going to be the first time they're hearing it.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
It could be the first time they're hearing it. I've
only talked about it once or twice ever. But I'm
so deep in this contract now. But what it turned
out because that all this gray matter in my brain
that was all jacked up. It was just from sleep.
I didn't sleep for years and years and years. And
oh man, my doctor was like, hey, I can see
like the exact maybe not dates, but those how long
it's been since the last ones because of my brain?
(09:50):
They showed me on a scan and he was like,
I bet you had one like seven months ago. I
bet you had one because of again the gray or
white matter. And now but I got like years left.
So if they were to say something now, I'd be like, ah,
what are you gonna do? Yeah? I got three years after.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
This, dell. Yeah, I can't remember a banana?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Who exactly? How many time we talking about bananas every day?
You know what I mean? My wife does. She like
keeps me in line though, Like if I'm starting to
even feel it, like she kind of cracks the whip.
How was your wife with you playing ball?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
In?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
That?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Was she? Because my wife's super supportive. But also if
I'm like overdoing something, she knows that my goal is
to be the best version I can be professionally, and
she'll go, you're overdoing yourself. You're not going to be
as good as you want to be because of what
you're doing right now. What was that relationship like, well.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
She understood the athlete's mindset her also, her one rule was, look,
if you go down, you get up if you can,
regardless of how bad that injury is. If you can
get up, then get up, like don't sit on the field.
And there was only really one time I can remember
that I didn't get up. I got a concussion against
Baltimore where I got knocked out, and she understood that
(11:00):
it was something a little bit more serious. But even
when I broke my foot, I got up, abble to
the sideline even though it was super painful, and got up.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
And so that was her one world.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
She's kind of a badass in that circumstance, Like the
almost reminded me of the girl from any given Sunday.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Like you're the goddamn quarterback, you know the team and.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Stuff like that. So she just she pushed me to
be the best. But she was also on me about
my nutrition and this, that and the other, and was
always there anytime I need her, even in the off
season when we go to a new team or something
like that.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
She would quiz me the plate. So I'd give her
the list of plays.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I'd be like, look, I need to get quizz on
these because I need to be able to say this
and regurgitate in the huddle. And so she'd quiz me.
So she was she was on board. She was down
for whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
D one athlete wife, that's awesome. Where for me, my
wife great athlete, but like she has like a family
where I didn't. So I was like, if I don't
need to take care of myself, like if I something
happens to me, who cares? Where she was like, how
your wife was instilling what she knew because she was
in that life as well. My wife was doing that
as all, Like, hey, you now have a family, you
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more on, Like you need to take care of yourself
because if not, you're gonna be dead and you're gonna
leave us all here. So yeah, here's the good women.
If we had something to toast, we toast good women
right here.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
But where's the women?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yes, we're coming back with Nico Collins. We'll take a
quick break. Nico Collins in just a second wide receiver, Houston, Texans.
(12:39):
Nico Collins, how are you feeling physically. Where are you now?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I'm in Houston, man, I just got back yesterday, starting
the off season program, cranking back up. So feeling great.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
How's the hamstring? Like you still able to run on
a FOLI now?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, I'm good, feeling great. I can't wait for this year, man.
I feel it's a great year, starting your five new OC.
You know, a great team, you know, so Kny Kane
wait to get started when they're energy right now.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Is nice when there's a new ROC. Like how how
much installation happens preseason versus how much once you guys
all get together like early ball.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, it's a lot. I feel like when the when
the OC first comes, you know he's want to get
the base foundation started, you know, you want to get
the run game, you know, the past game situation. So
I feel like the first OTAs man is really just
getting the foundation started, you know, the quick game, you know,
the intermedia routes, the meetium routes, you know, just getting
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stuff down pay you know, really found the rhythm of things,
you know, and really see how team is going to
be ran. You know, once we transitioned from OTAs to.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Camp, when the transition happens. Do they ever keep some
of the language so it's not you know, a full
installation or or since he's there now, I mean, did
he change all the language?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
No? I think now is he's I think now they
meet in to see what we're going to keep in
the house and what you know, what he was want
to run as well. So I feel like now is
what we you know, go through and see what fits
us and what we're gonna work use throughout the season.
So I feel like now it's ota is we used
that time to see like I would pretty much see
(14:17):
like what what plays and what you know, type of style,
type of offense we're gonna be heading into the twenty
twenty twenty six season. And so I feel like during camp, man,
you that's when you're really going into your bag and
really you know, bring out your your best plays, you know,
because you're getting ready for the season. You know. I
feel like now it's you know, you're trying to get
the foundation started and you know, get the main details down.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Like last year you went off like no doubt, you
went off. You stayed off until until you got hurt
a little bit, but you went off. So when when
a new oc comes in. Are you are you concerned
at all? Or are you just like we're gonna amplify
what we did with the new guy.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I feel like we when I win, you know, a
new new coach come in. You know, I feel like
we just gotta we we build on what we did
last year. You know, just you know, putting me, putting
me in positions you know that that fits. You know
the best things I do, you know, so and just
anybody you know me to pull in the white house,
to running back, you know, just putting guys in the
right position for us to you know exceed, you know great,
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you know, make plays for the team. Man. So you
know I'm incited for this year, man, excited for you
know the offense and you know the energy. You know
we're gonna bring this year. Man, I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Some of my friends up play pro basketball. They talk
about when they're on, like the rim looks like it's
ten feet wide, and you know they can't miss. Like
when you're on, ain't missed? Like what's the what's the
difference with you? Does the ball look bigger? Does it
like softer? Do the players look slower?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
And man? Everything I think when I'm on like the ball.
Everything is moving slow motion, like everything the ball's coming slow. Guys,
just look slower. Yeah, it's just like action figures out there.
You know, it's just a bag drill. That's kind of
what it feels like. You know, it's just routs on there.
You know you're not seeing nobody. Everything's just moving. You
know you're blocking out the noise. Man, You're just in
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the moment. Man, I feel like that's no better feel. Man.
Once you when you find that groove, you know, you
know how it is. It is. It's unstoppable the stock
you know. Yeah, that group, it's nice. I love being
that group.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You ever self scout yourself for tendencies, to make sure
that you're not being scouted for tendencies, to make sure
you're not doing things like on the line that they
already know what you're about to do.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I try to. I try to,
you know, modify my game to keep it the same
because I'm a bigger receiver, you know, so it's it's
easier for me. You know, I'm sick for it, so
it's easier for me to you can tell when it's
time for me to detail stop speed up. You know,
it's it's easier, easier indicators, you know. So I feel like,
for me, man, just that's one thing I self scout
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is how can I find ways to make everything look
the same, you know, my tempo changing, or they know
when I come the ball fast, it's either going to
be a deep route or I'm coming off slow might
be a run play, you know. So I feel like
right now I'm at the point of my career where
I need to make everything look the same. And I
feel like that's the thing that I've been chasing, you know,
even when I'm tired, you know for a quarter. You know,
you got to run a post route, you know, or
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you got to run the incut. How can you make
everything look the same? You know, so the the dbs
you know, can't cover. You know, they're smart too, you know,
they great players, and they get paid as well, you know,
so they watch film, you know, they pros, you know,
so they know they know the game, you know, so
they know when when it's a run, playoff pass player.
So I feel like for me, that's that's one step
I gotta take, you know, just making everything look the same,
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you know, keep my pay love alow being phelsical with
a lot of scrimmags, you know which I am, you know,
but I feel like for me to just continue to
work on those stamps.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, you're physical, you're large. Do you like when a
dB comes up to jam you? Is that fun? Like,
let's go, Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
That's trying to football.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I feel like that's that's that brings the energy, you know,
that brings to the competitive in na should I have.
And I love competing, man, Like, let's go. You know,
when God come down to press, you know, that's he's
trying to stop you from making plays, you know, and
for me, it's the team trust me to go make
it play. You know, whatever your numbers called, you got
to make it play in it. So I feel like
for me, man, I love being pressed.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I love competing, you know, because hey, they putting, they
all into that that pressure down, you know, so you
know you beat them off the line, you know a lot.
You know, keep running your reps and you know you can,
you'll know when you take their pridehood.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Speaking of getting your number called, if I'm correct, you
were drafting third round. Well, what are these guys feeling?
What are they feeling right now as we're inching up,
what were you feeling about this point as the draft
was about to happen.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, Man, I was anxious. Didn't know where to go,
you know, I didn't know where I was gonna go,
didn't know what team, you know, believe didn't me like
me enough, you know, just coming from the senior Bowl, man,
you know, it was a lot of emotions. You know
pro day as well. You know, it's a lot of
nervous because you train your whole life to get to
this level where you you know where God's training to
go now, you know, and so when you get to
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this level, man, it's it's it's the best of the best.
You know, guys all right great at this level. Man.
So around this time, man, it was a lot of emotions. Man,
it was. Man, it was hard to explain. Man, it's anxious, nervous,
you know, just just what you know. You never know
if he was gonna get picking out, you know, it's
different coming from high school to college where you get
to pick where school you want to go to. And
but now it's the complete opposite. You know, teams got
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to see if they like you know what I'm saying,
so I feel like that was that was the big
difference for me feeling, you know, just coming into the drive,
you know. So, Man, I end up just being with
my family around the time. Man, you know, getting the
draft house, being with my family, man, being my loved ones.
I feel like that that really helped me out, you know,
and just talking to my mom, my parents. You know,
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it's just been telling me, you know, whatever team get me, man,
just make sure you you go and you know, make
your mard have fun with it, you know, and just
thank God for it all, you know, and just have fun,
you know, the same game be playing your entire life.
You know, it's just at the highest level. You know,
it's something you've been dreaming about your entire life and
it's finally here, you know, So taking a run with it, man,
you know, take advantage of your opportunities.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
What teams did you meet with? And was the Texans
one of those teams you thought might pop up and
draft you.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Actually I was meeting with a lot of teams, man.
I'm met with the Tennessee Titans a lot, Jacksonville, Jacksonville
a couple of times, man, New York Giants, Yeah, Houston.
I ended up meeting with Houston, like it was later man,
and the interview was like five minutes.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
They just asked me how I was doing, how I
was feeling, you know, and it was good. You know,
they like like my game things like that. So it
was short. It was short and sweet.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Man.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
It wasn't nothing, nothing too crazy. But I feel like
just around the time, I wasn't expecting, you know, the Houston, Houston,
Texas to pick ups man, pick me. You know, it
was just it's a blessing you because around that time,
you know, Jacksonville there was you know, they was interviewing
me a lot, you know, like every day it's hard questions,
you know, just things like that. So I kind of thought,
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you know, he's gonna be Tennessee, Jacksonville. Jacksonville is pretty
hard to with the interviews, you know, accident asking me
a lot of questions, you know, asking about the family
and stuff. So I really thought I was gonna either
Jacksonville Tennessee around this time for sure, but not jackson
Is definitely surprised me then, you know, that was my team.
I was not expecting. You know, they kept a short
(21:10):
interview and ended up.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Picking I'm from Arkansas, So for me to go to
school somewhere cold, that would not have been preferred. Now
you're from Alabama, how did you end up in Michigan
because that feels like a whole different climate.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Man, it's night and day, man, I say, Jim Harball. Man,
Jim Harball, he came down to the Big ten, came
down from the Big ten SEC country man and got me.
And I was, I was. I was blessing though to
be highly recruited a lot of teams in the SEC. Man,
pretty much, I had every team in SEC, and Michigan
is my only Big Ten. And it was just something
about coach Harball. Man. He stood out. He was different
(21:43):
from all the other coaches just his his you know,
just way he just came about the game, man. You know,
he cared for the players, you know, on and off
the field, for the families. You know. He was a
real football guy, you know. And it stood out. It
was different from the rest of the coaches in the business.
I went on, you know, So he came down, Man.
I went up there a couple of times for official visits, man,
(22:04):
and love the culture.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Man.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I think that was when they first went to Jordan
and so I just see myself wanting Jordan's I think
it was the first Jordan team college football all that time. Man,
So it was dope. Man. I feel like just me
going up there playing the Amazing Blue was different. You know,
coming from Alabama. You know, a lot of guys didn't
do that. You know a lot of guys normally stayed
in the state, either go to Alabama or Arburn, Georgia,
you know, Florida, they stay in the South. Man. But
(22:26):
I just wanted to do something different, you know, I
just wanted to go up to the north, you know,
playing the big Tin. You know, it's just see what
was different. She was out there, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
What about catching the ball in the cold though, Like
catching the football in the coal, you had to learn Yeah, yeah,
that's that's hard, right.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
It's hard, man, because your hands are numb and the
football as hard as a brick, and it's coming fast.
You got to put your hands up catch it. It's terrible. Man.
I feel like that was my worst experience. Like that
winter in Michigan was probably my worst my freshman year.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Man.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Like I didn't I didn't know how to dress for
the cold. I had jackets. I was not doing it
for the weather man. You need a cold. I didn't
have no boots. I was going through it. Man, My
first win in December was it was they had a
call Mom like, Yo, can you send me like a
care package? I mean showing I need to go shop
for it. I need to stay warm here. But no,
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it was the best decision I ever made, though, Man.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Watching you last season, just watching U the other wide
receivers run the NFL, like there are a lot of guys.
There are a lot of like dudes, but like you
were that dude, Like the whole season like you were
that dude. And everybody started to realize that about about
Game three where it was like, okay, he has separated
himself from everybody. Did you do anything last year leading
into the season there was different or is it just
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a normal maturation process?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah? Yeah, I didn't do anything different. I feel like
I build on I build on last year, my second
coming off my third year, and this year I feel
like I was just building it, you know, just finding
the things that was good for me. My third year,
I did it again. You know, I amped it up,
you know, just taking the games to another level, you know,
just trying to you know, learn stuff, learn from different people.
You know, I had you know, stuff on this joins
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us this year, you know, just learning from him, you know,
just learning, you know, how to be become a great receiver.
I've been watching stuff for years, you know, middle school,
you know, throughout high school. You know, even now, I'm
still watching you know, guys like that man, just leaders,
you know, I lean on, ask some questions the best. Man.
Just find the ways to go about my game.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Man.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So I feel like there's always ways to improve in
your game and there's no seiling. So I feel like
for me, man, just strong for greatness and not gaining
place and not getting comfortable, you know, just because you
had a little you know, success is it's a blessing,
you know. But I feel like for me, you got
to continue to go, continue to remember like your goals
and you know, being worth for s you know, just
saying advantage of every opportunity. You know, that was that
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was what I was doing. You know. You just never
know when the game could be done, you know. And
I feel I just I realized that, man, just flip
the switch. And I'm still continuing to realizing that now.
You know, just enjoying everything you know, because they could
be over them all never know. You know, So like
nah man just having fallen joined the process and love.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Got three final questions. And I'll talk about c J.
Stroud first. I mean Ohio State. So that's you know
a few years ago maybe you guys wouldn't gotten gotten
along so well. But what's he liked the facility? What's
he what's he like on the practice field?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, he was a leader, man. I feel like he
was a born leader from day one since he came in. Man,
just his work at his leadership. He was there. Man,
he came in not even looking like a rookie. Man,
he came ready to lead. You know, because first two
years we was was a winner. You know, this program
it was probably maybe one of winning like five games
two years my first two years I was here, Man,
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it was it was kind of our rebuilt year. It
was kind of hard. But you know, once we drafted CJ.
Will Man and uh Henry Man, I feel like this
entire team, that draft class was nice, bro and I
feel like we stepped it up. That's what we needed.
We needed that that those guys man to come in
and make it their for instance, they did and c J.
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Every day in the building. Man, it's just you can
tell he's on the mission. You know. He he leads
the right way. He be there for you, man, and
there's no better guy to go out there and play.
Play for it.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Man.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
You know he got your back. It's a great guy,
man and humble. He's only calm and collected, that's what
I call him. He's real calm, you know, and precious
high lights getting bright. You know the guy says the same. Man,
I feel like that's that's type we got.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
You need it as a quarterback, right, final two questions.
Did you keep any balls from this season? Any special
moments where you kept the ball?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
For sure? Man, I kept a lot of footballs. Man,
got a thousand yards and kept that first touchdown reception.
I kept that. But else my second, my second touchdown
I scored. I guess I think it was they got
called out first, one second, got a called back. I
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was sick first, I was down, David. I know it
was my mom's birthday, so I had to I had
kept that ball, gave it to her. So it was
a great, great one. Uh, I was gonna keep the
Dallas ball that first play. I came back after my injury.
Uh ended up breaking like a saving the yard six
or nine touchdown got called back sick. So I was
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you know, I still kept that ball because.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
It counted me.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
It's coming back from you know, just missing five games,
you know, and that that game against Dallas, and that's
being the first play batman and no, and they gave
me the ball the first play and you know I
took it to the house. I feel like that was
a it was a great feeling for me, you know,
just coming off injury, you know, good blowing injury, ham stream,
you know, and that being my first play back. Man,
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you know I had to keep that, you know it
kind of it kind of my buoys might not count
nobody else, but you know that's that's something to remember,
you know. But I always keep a lot of my
footballs because you know, it's it's hard to score in
this league.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Man.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Just so like when you look back ten years from now, man,
tear your kids or you know, grand kids. You know,
this is what I was doing back in the day.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Final question, the easy one, like what's the expectation, what's
the ceiling for this year? You know, what's the goal
for sure?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I mean I feel like the ceilings is everybody selling
you know, we gotta get to that super Bowl. You
know it's ceiling. But I feel like our goal, man
is just continue to get better, continue to not be
the same every week, you know, improved, you know, and
it seemed to be us.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
I feel like when were out there having fun, we
play our best ball, not thinking, you know, And I
feel like for us, as that might, that's gonna be
our challenge. Man, who out there having fun you know
and being enoughs man, being nuts and not thinking too much.
I feel like that that's when we had the most
fun and winning games.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Man.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
The potential of this ceiling, this team this year, Man,
I feel like it's great, you know, and I can
feel it right now in the building, just you know,
first second week workout, you know, flowing the mindset from
the coaches to the players, you know, everybody, staff, you know, everybody. Man,
I feel like the energy is there. I feel like
the missions everybody know who the mission is. And we
don't want to have that feeling we had last year,
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you know, getting to the same spot we did twice
two years back to back. End I proceed that, you know,
so we know what we gotta do we know what
it takes to to go to the next level and
go to the next game, you know. So I feel
like for us, it's a great feeling, it's great energy,
and I can't wait for everybody to get back.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
Nick.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I appreciate you your fun to watch man. It's awesome,
awesome to see last year just killing Yeah, rooting for
you guys. So thanks for the time, Nico.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
For sure, oh problem, thank you so much that we
go everybody.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Hey, man, who do you think has the craziest fan base?
Speaker 7 (29:47):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (29:48):
I mean the Bills have to be in there with
the Bills Mafia, there's no doubt about that. Philly Philly,
Philly and the Bills. I'd probably say those two. Maybe
the Las Vegas Raiders with the black Hole and everything.
Seattle Seahawks are it's a good one place to play.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Yeah, I mean because they've got they retired the number
twelve because of the Twelfth Man. That's their big deal
up there, and I think that they have to pump
artificial noise in that stateiument.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
It's wild.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
The twelfth Man is a good one, which I don't
think I would have gone there. I'm glad you did.
Did you ever play in Seattle?
Speaker 7 (30:22):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Yeah, multiple times?
Speaker 4 (30:24):
And it as loud as can be and it's always dreary,
little bit damp, you know. And when they had the
Legion of Boom, that place was rocking. Marshawn Lynch, that
whole group.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
I mean, they were a good, good football team.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
How is it? And I guess I should say where
is it when it is so loud? Like, how is
there a difference in deafening and really loud and just
kind of loud? And does it affect play?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
It does, because communication when it is so loud, particularly
when you get to some of these end zones, like
in Seattle, even New Orleans when they were at their height,
they were so loud, and particularly in the end zones,
that communication because so much is going on, particularly if
you're a quarterback in an offensive unit that you identify
the linebacker to set protections and set the front. That
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everybody's got to be communicating and you're not using cadence.
You're all on silent count because if you use cadence,
everybody's going to jump off sides. And you see it
often if they try to use cadence and it's too loud,
there's just some guy that gets a little bit jumpy,
so you're waiting for that ball to move. So under center,
I literally would slap the center's butt, hed bob his
head and snap the ball. And that was the indicator.
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And then the wide receivers on the outside, all they're
looking at is looking in to see the ball move.
They don't even concentrate on the slap or anything like that.
And then when you're in the gun, you're using a foot,
so you can go silent one, silent two, silent three
in some cases.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
And everybody's got to be on it.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
But it definitely changes your communication because when you're up
at the line of scrimmage you want to change protection.
That's when you see like the old school clips of
Peyton Manning running up and down the line communicating to everybody,
being very demonstrative. Well, that's because communication is key to
getting a.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
When you say you use the foot and shotgun, what
do you mean.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
So when you're standing back there the indicator, you either
have the guard or the center sometimes will look through
his legs and you're literally lifting your leg up one leg.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
And that's silent one. Silent two would be two lifts.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
So you go like this, he goes down, Bob's head
comes up, then he looks back down. Bob's it again,
or you have a guard tap him, And so that's
how you would start the cadence. You would use no
cadence whatsoever. It was all silent count.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
So you're telling me their instance where the guard is watching,
so he can tell the center what the silent count is.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Yes, because I think it's a better method to be
honest with you. Because the sinner controls the front, he's
setting stuff after I will identify, Hey, the middle linebackers here,
so I set it originally, but he's talking to the
guards continuously, and it's getting passed down, like hey, watch
this guy coming down here or the game or whatever.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
It might be.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
So as the center keeps his eyes on the defense,
the guard looks back and all he does is he taps.
He taps the center on the side, and that now
the center knows it's time to go, and so he's able.
They're both able to get their eyes on the defense.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
For the most part, I think I do feel like
I learned something, Like I feel like I'm mildly knowledgeable,
but I didn't know because I've seen the leg lifts
and knew that one or two, but I never knew
there were other eyes. It's like in your neighborhood neighborhood
watch where people are out at night, like we have
the neighborhood. The guard is the freaking neighborhood watch. For
the center of the quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Yeah, you'll see these guys look back like this, and
you'll see them just kind of put their hand out.
Sometimes they'll even put it out in front of their
face like this, So that that's the indicator that we
got to get going.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Another one of the teams I put up for fan
base is the Packers, because one, you got to be
crazy to go to games that cold. They are. They loud.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
They're relatively loud. I mean, the coolest part about it
is a historic value of that place and so much history.
You're walking down all the locker room's green, but then
the Lambeau Leap and everything that they have.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
They're loud.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
But I wouldn't say there is lot as Seattle or
even a Kansas City. When Kansas City's rocking, that fan
base will get after you. There's some really loud stadiums,
There's no doubt about that. But I would say that
they're not as loud as like I said Seattle, Kansas City.
Pittsburgh gets loud too with the terrible towels I mean.
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And the other part about Pittsburgh they travel. We've had
games in Kansas City before where there's more than half
the stadium dressed up in Steelers outfits. I'm like, I
thought this was a home game. What is going on
right now?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
People liked this last week, Let's do another edition of
What Were They Like? Where I just picked somebody that
I think you knew, and you tell me what they
were like. And this week I pick tell me about
Doug Flutey.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Doug Flutey, this guy was a legend when I showed
up to New England. He's forty one years old and
he's not big in stature. I mean, he's probably five
to ten, might be generous five nine, but he had
an absolute cannon for an arm and I'll never forget
come in the first day I'm coming in as a rookie,
I'm walking up and he pulls up in like an
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old school trans aam with an.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
Eagle on the front.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
He lived, he lived in the nineteen eighties, did like
he had the hair flow and he was like a
little kid. I mean, he loved every sport. He'd playing
pickup basketball, he played in a hard ball baseball league
Get forty one in the offseason, and he'd come in
and he'd tell you all of his stats. He was
like a little kid. He'd tell you all of his stats,
how many innings he pitched, the people he stole base
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He'd go out to Finnway and before games he'd go
down there constantly and just shag balls for batting practice,
like he was a legend. And I'll never forget the
It was the end of the year that year. We're
playing Miami at home, and I got to play for
three quarters, and the crowd was getting frustrated because they
wanted to see Flutie. Like it's Boston, Boston College, like
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he's a legend there.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
And so Flutie could do this thing called the.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Drop kick, and it hadn't been done for god knows
how long, you know, thirty years, whatever it was. And
we go down and I throw my first touchdown pass
in my career to Tim Dwight on lower return route.
He falls in well, Doug Flutie runs on the field
and he's going to do this dropkick because Bill's a
big historian, so he's like, can you do this in
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the game, and Doug's like, yeah, I'll do it. So
Doug lines up behind the center in a shotgun snap
and everybody is going wild and the defense doesn't know
what to think because we're in a field goal formation
with just Flutie back there. And he drops it, hits
the ground, kicks it through the uprights for a pat
does the dropkick. So now it's like super Bowl winning
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type stuff. The crowd is all, now I come back
out for the next series for the two minute drill,
and they are booing.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
They're so pissed off Doug Footie is not back in
the game.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I'm like, guys, I mean, he went in for the
drop kick.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
It was awesome, but can I just can you give
me a little bit of support right here? No, no,
they're going flute flutey. It was great.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
But he was a great teammate, funny as hell. I mean,
I will say in meetings he was one of those
guys that's old school, right. He wants to block it
up and throw it down. So we'd be going through
the game plan sometimes and after Britty would get the
gun going through his favorites. They'd get the fluty and
they'd be like, all right, so if you get in
there or if something happens, what do you want me
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to Sorry. He's like, look, just block it up and
call goes.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
I'll make it work. And he was just that kind
of dude. I was laughing my ass off though.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
He's a funny, funny dude.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
All right, you're up.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
All right, Bear Girls, tell me some good Bear Girls stories.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
So Bear Girls has the show, he has many shows,
but he has a Running Wild to Bear Girls, where
he takes out celebrities and takes them all over the
world to places and basically sees, if you can die.
That's what it felt like anyway. And I got a
call and says, hey, do you want to do Running
Wild with Bear Grills on nat gu on Disney Plus.
And I was like, I don't think so, Like I'm
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good God, I don't not for adventure. I had enough
of that my whole life growing up. And they're like, no, no, no,
I don't think you understand, Like he only really asks
famous people and you're not famous, so that would be
cool for you to do. That's that's position. And I
said oh, okay, and so I begrudgingly said yeah, sure,
thinking we would go to like New Orleans or Las
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Vegas into the a dune or something, and they were like,
all right, we're gonna go to Norway. I never been
to Norway, long trip, and it's like you'll be there
for two days. You're in the wilderness, it's cold, but
you'll land and off you go. And so I'm like,
all right, cool. So I got on a flight. We
fly to Norway. Let's like fly to Paris and then
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Amsterdam and then a small town in Norway, and you
get off as beautiful by the way, but you land
and it's just right into the show. As soon as
I land, I throw my bags in a room and
they're like, all right, let's go. I haven't met Bear
or anything, and so I watched a couple episodes on
the way on the flight, just to kind of see
what was going on. And I'd seen a couple a
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few years prior, but it wasn't like I watched all
the Bear Girls episodes. So a little bit had to
reintroduce myself to what was about to happen. And I
didn't like what I was introduced to because I was like,
I don't want to do this stuff. I hate heights.
And so we're in a foreign country and they're like,
just go and I he'll join you. And all of
a sudden, I see a helicopter flying over the top
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and here's bear like hanging off the side of it,
and he's like all right, and the helicopters still running
and he's like, clip on right here, and I'm like,
what is that clip on right here? Nothing not met
him anything, all I here is this guy yelling at me,
and I clip on. All of a sudden, the helicopters
lifted us off right and we're like just hanging from
the freaking helicopter flying over nowhere. I'm like, oh my god,
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I hate heights. And it's little literally a clip from
me falling to my death hundreds of feet. So we
finally land and it's freezing cold and it's raining the
whole time, and my adrenaline is pumping, but I don't
know why, because I don't know what I'm about to do,
and so we just start hiking. We have like twenty
miles to hike that day to get to our end destination,
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and part of it is going through water and again,
it's probably thirty seven degrees and it's raining, and so
we go and it's wet, and I'm telling you, it's
not like there are producers following you around giving you
like TUTSI rolls or blankets. Like it's as legit as
it possibly can be unless you like tap out. And
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so we're going and we're going through marsh and I
like fall and I'm wet. My whole leg's wet. It's
less than forty degrees. Bear's really nice. But again, we're
shooting a TV show and we're trying to get to
our place before dark, and we come across this disgusting
rotted goat and it's floating on the water. And what
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we were looking for were like some birds or some plants,
because he was like, hey, we're gonna try to find
some birds to eat because then we'll cook them and
eat them because he's you know, he was in like
special forces in like the UK. And I'm like, great,
this part no problem with grew up in the woods
in Arkansas, hunting my whole life. Whatever you need. So
we're going through, but it's a rotted goat that's poking
out of this cold water, and so I have to
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go and wade. I don't have any extra socks wade
to this goat. We drag it to the land and
Bear is smart enough to know, well, if that side's rotted,
the other side is going to be perfectly preserved because
the water's cold. So we pull it, we flip it over.
He's absolute right, it's perfectly preserved. And he's like, he's like,
I'll skin this. Cameras are with us, but the cameras
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aren't allowed to like talk with this that we're not
allowed to talk to the cameramen at all. And he's like,
if you ever use a knife, and I'm like, oh,
I can clean this animal. He didn't know that. I'm
like a hillbilly like growing up, and he's like, you can,
you can clear an animal. However, I don't have to
have a good British accent, and so like I freaking
cleaned the goat, like half the goat, and yeah, I
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was able to like to And he was so shocked
by that, and I think a little bit his outdoorsman
respect of me went up a notch. I didn't deserve it,
but it went up a notch and we're like going
off clip. It was miserable. I'm coming off like off ropes.
We're falling off four hundred feet cliffs. And we get
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to the end of the night because you do a
full like twelve hours you sleep out in the in
the wilderness, and then you have another like six hours
the next day to get to the final spot. And
the best part of it was after I would like
I'd like kill myself all day. It felt like and
have died multiple times. It was just Bar and I
sitting at a fire, no cameras. They don't put you
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in a hotel or anything. You literally are out there
in a tent. We just sat around and talked for
like four hours. Was like the greatest dude, like so
generous with the stories, but he's like talking about good
celebrit these difficult celebrities. Was so like open and like vulnerable,
Like I loved the dude. I ended up doing the
show the next season as well, but that whenever we
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were leaving the next day, he was like, you already
get back on the helicopter, And there's a clip of
me getting back on the helicopter and the helicopter being
funny and like doing like one of those go straight
and then jerk and it like swings you and you
see me just swing out of the helicopter. Dude the worst.
He was super kind. I felt like I died many times.
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It came back to live and did it again the
next year. I think there were only two people that
had done it twice. Me and Channing Tatum were very similar,
especially with our shirts off. But he couldn't have been kind.
And we keep in touch, and Bear Girls is as
nice as he seems on the show. So that's my
Bear Girls story.
Speaker 6 (43:54):
Did I love that you did that show? Because I
would watch that show religiously, like.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
I wonder if that would be fun to do. But
it did look like you guys were out in the
elements that I didn't know. It was two full days,
twenty miles of hiking, but they find random.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
Food, You do all that stuff. But it's definitely a
mental grind, without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Well, they also probably know what your weaknesses are and
they challenge you on them. So I hated heights. I
made a mistake of saying that. I was like, yeah,
I'm good everything, but heights. So it was all heights.
It was all freaking heights. It was like, what can
we find to throw him off of that will make
him possibly cry. And so yeah, if anyone's wondering, Bear
Girls and Doug Flutie a plus.
Speaker 5 (44:32):
A plus A plus individuals, We're gonna draft our sports
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movie team.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
I will give you the category. Okay, there'll be five categories.
You draft your position. The first is of your sports
movie team. Your leader. Who do you draft to be
the leader of your team? Mmm?
Speaker 7 (45:11):
The leader of my team.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
I'm gonna go with Roy Hobbs from The Natural, a
movie that you've never seen.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
But I know what I've seen clips. I've seen clips.
I mean he hits into the lights. I thought that
was cool.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
I mean, not only is he a great baseball player,
but he fought through adversity.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Well, I don't know didversity huh? I don't know what's
the audiversity?
Speaker 7 (45:28):
Oh? He got shot.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
Really yeah by a lady on a train that had
like full mental issues wanted to want to be his girlfriend.
But I have no idea what happened, but really set
back his career. But he fought back from that adversity,
made it all the way up to whatever he was
and was a great teammate, great player, great leader, just
all around.
Speaker 7 (45:49):
Good human being Roy Hobbs.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
I'm going with Shane Falco from the replacements.
Speaker 7 (45:53):
I do love that. That's a great call.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
The ultimate underdog quarterback. Nobody believed in Shane Falco. No,
Shane Vacco freaking played though, and he balled. He bald hard,
bald hard good ones. All right, next up your athletic freak.
Speaker 7 (46:11):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
I mean I was thinking about this and I always
remember watching Blue Chips growing up, and then I remember
Shack was the actor in Blue Chips, was the guy
that they paid for to come in be part of
the program.
Speaker 7 (46:26):
Take him to national championship. You know the name?
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Yeah what Booby No, No, no, no, Neon Neon. He
was Neon Neon, Yeah, Neon like boodoh Boudoir, Yeah, Boudoir.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
They way down to the gym and they're in that
sweaty gym and he's just dunking.
Speaker 7 (46:40):
The ball over people.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
Blue Chips was so legit.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
It was a great movie, like a really good inside look.
Penny was in it too, Yeah, Kenny Hardway was baller two.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
They get no freakier in a great way than Shaq. Yeah,
and I had two A plus's on this one. I
don't want to be the guy that picks two. No,
please do Forrest Gump.
Speaker 7 (47:04):
That's a solid pick right.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
There, University of ball Obama.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
Like he just kept gone running kickoffs back gone marathon.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Yes, yes, yes, I mean dog didn't Forrest Gump? Wow,
you get no freaky or athletically.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
No, because he's like weird too and he doesn't even
know he's doing it.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
The other one that was right because I felt really
good about forty Gump.
Speaker 7 (47:28):
Be honestly, I'll say that's all time right there.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Bobby Bouche was number two.
Speaker 7 (47:31):
Bobby Bouche. I thought he'd be a wild card for you.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Because he hits like Ray Lewis on steroids. Like Bobby
Bouche took heads off, Yes he did. But Forrest Gump
has got to be my freek that's a great call,
all right. Next up in the draft, you're a wild
card for any reason whatsoever? Which athlete would you have
on your team?
Speaker 7 (47:51):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (47:51):
Happy Gilmore? Great one, Happy Gilmore? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (47:55):
That's a good one. Well I'm going air Bud. It's
a freaking dog, dude. I got a freaking dog who
can play ball like no nobody else got a dog.
Speaker 7 (48:07):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (48:07):
The funniest part about this When you sent this, my
wife and I had a conversation. This is going to
be a great conversation. And she's like, what about airbud.
I was like, I can't go with the dog, like, Honey,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
I go with the dog. You with the dog, and
I love it.
Speaker 7 (48:24):
Literally had that conversation.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Their bud's legit, Like, I just imagine talk about the
dog that can play ball. They'd be so distracted by
the dog they can't they can't focus.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
Yeah, and not only did that dog play basketball, played volleyball?
Speaker 3 (48:35):
One button the red zone.
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Oh, just go up, get it breaking ankles or biting
ankles one?
Speaker 3 (48:45):
All right, coach? Who's your coach?
Speaker 7 (48:47):
Oh? Man?
Speaker 4 (48:48):
I went with uh oh, Jackie Moon, Will Ferrell. He's
semi pro, he's the owner. He also is a player,
he's pregame announcer, and he fought a bear. I mean,
does it get any better than Jackie Moon?
Speaker 3 (49:03):
It does not, except I'm gonna give you close, not better,
but close. Mickey from Rocky because you need.
Speaker 9 (49:10):
To get up, Get up bones, get up, get up
rock Like he's the guy that because I'm probably gonna
be like and he's like, get up bone, Airbud, get up.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Airbud would knock right.
Speaker 7 (49:23):
He's the only dog that could knock Rocky out.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
And finally, like, you're Enforcer, you're tough guy, who would
you draft there?
Speaker 4 (49:30):
I went was Jean Claude van Dam from blood Sport.
I mean, let's be honest. I know he's not like
your typical team tough guy, but I mean the guy
went for like battle to the death wherever the hell
they were in blood Sport and fought that one guy
who was very intimidating, and he fought blind, I mean
(49:50):
pretty hardcore. He did remember that. Yes, he's like closing
his eyes so underappreciated, could just feel the wind in
his air and just block mind.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Forcer didn't love him, but with definitely accept him on
my team. Ivon Drago from Rocky four, It's great. I
want him roided up. I want every way he cheated
against America to be cheating for America with me and Airbud.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
HGH, steroids and fetamines. I want the whole passage, all
of it. Yeah, and I want the girl that traveled
with him, the blonde that might have been with the
short hair.
Speaker 7 (50:28):
I think she was more intense than he was.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
One of my honorable mentions for the coach was just
se if you know who this is, Gordon Bombay, familiar,
go Gordon Bombay, give it to me mighty ducks.
Speaker 7 (50:39):
Oh, that was a great call. My uh runner up
for a coach was Ted Lasso.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Great call. Didn't even get on my list and I missed.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
That's a that is a great I mean inspiring fun
to play rings your little little cookie treat take treats.
And my other one for runner up of leader was
Roy from Ted Lasso, you know the hardcore.
Speaker 3 (51:04):
My enforcer back up was another rocky clubber lang, which
was mister t. Oh, mister t. That was great. Did
you know, mister t you know all the chains he wore?
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Right?
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Did you know why he wore that? Initially was because
he worked bouncer at a club and people would just
leave stuff at the bar and he's just cool. Collect
him away. I'm on his neck and that's where his
look came from.
Speaker 7 (51:24):
Hey, anyway you can come up, bro, I'm down with that.
Speaker 6 (51:27):
All right.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
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Speaker 3 (00:16):
Lost to say.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
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Speaker 5 (00:31):
Here's Bobby that?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
What's up? Everybody? Welcome to another episode coming up. We
have wide receiver Nico Collins, who is just a straight stud.
We'll talk to him about his upcoming season with Texans
and mostly if he's like back from being injured. It's weird, Matt, Like,
when you're injured and you're a pro athlete, there's a
fine line of pushing it but also stopping so you
(00:56):
can get back as fast as possible. Do you ever
hit that line exactly right? Uh?
Speaker 4 (01:01):
You know, I think it's probably something that every individual's
a little bit different. But you're always trying to push
yourself so you can get back as quick as possible
and get back into like the OTAs the off season training,
and it's based on your injury and also the feedback
that you have to give and be very open with
with your trainers, the medical staff and everything like that.
(01:22):
But the minute you do start pushing too hard and
then you set yourself back. Well, that's what you're trying
to avoid at all costs. So there's a happy medium
because obviously the recovery and these injuries now that used
to be nine months, You see guys coming back in
four to five months, and so the methods of training
(01:43):
and recovery has changed dramatically, and also the different details
that they use and the sports science and everything else
has evolved.
Speaker 6 (01:52):
So you're absolutely.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Able to see guys come back at a much quicker rate,
But you just don't want to ever sacrifice that into
injuring yourself again and setting yourself back in the process.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, I feel like if it were a contract year,
like there are probably a lot of variables. If it's
your first year in a new contract, you're probably handling
it different based on your security. Would there be accuracy
in that statement.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
One hundred percent? I mean, if you're coming up on
a contract year. I remember, even when I was in
New England, I sublux my kneecap, which means it came
out of place and went back in And I already
had surgery on this thing when I was in college
because I did just that. But my knee was swollen
like crazy, but I knew I got to play that year.
Things went well, thought I might be up for a
(02:38):
bigger contract, so I wasn't going to say anything because
they were saying that you potentially need to go get
a scope, do this, that and the other. But I
was like, no chance, because if all of a sudden,
you go in and you have that injury that you
can get through but it's not significant to where you
have to have surgery, then you try to fight that
because you don't want teams to look at you and go, well,
(03:00):
he's got the injury, so we're not going to pay him,
or we were going to go a different direction because
he's injured. You have to kind of work through some
of that stuff, and then after you get that contract,
it might be a little bit different. You might be
able to take a little bit more time because you
don't feel like that sense of urgency the rush because
you've been paid, and that's just that's human nature.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
My last contract in media with the company iHeartRadio because
my last deal was a five year deal before the
one that I'm in now, which is similar, but I
was in the last year of my deal and it's
This is something I haven't talked about a whole lot,
but it's similar in that I didn't want them to know.
But I woke up one morning, and this is probably
(03:39):
sixteen months before my deal was up, but the negotiation
starts with over a year left, because there are so
many small details inside of it, and so I didn't
want them to know. But I woke up and I
couldn't read one morning, meaning I remember like nothing happened
to me except for when I opened my eyes that
(04:01):
morning and I open my computer to start working on
the show on the radio show, which I wake up
at like three thirty or four in the morning. I
couldn't read the screen, and I thought, well, this is bizarre.
I have a terrible vision anyway, my ride eye doesn't work,
so I just thought maybe this is a vision thing.
I get to work, I still can't read. My thoughts
aren't really connecting, and I remember going to my coast
(04:23):
and going, hey, you have to cover something. Draw in
my eyes, like that's what I said, just to get
through it. And so she's like cool, and so she
covers me the whole show. I call my doctor and
he's like, hey, I think you should go see a neurologist.
So I go to neurologist and they do all this
stuff to me on these tests, and he says to
me at the time, he says, hey, I think you
had a seizure in your sleep and this could happen
(04:44):
at any time. And I'm like, well, that sucks in
my sleep and it could happen at anytime, Like what
led to this seizure in my sleep? And he's like,
there's one hundred variables, he said, so let's just knock out,
you know, make sure you're eating right. It's very general
because this neurology wasn't like my close doctor. So okay, cool.
(05:06):
I slowly, it takes about three weeks to where I
can actually read words on a page again, I could
get them a little bit. I still I wasn't not
my brain wasn't connecting, and I wasn't telling anybody who
worked about this because I again, it's basically a contract here.
And so it happens again. And I remember saying on
(05:28):
the show, I was like, I have a crazy brain fog.
Now this is like twelve months now, this is a
few months, four or five months later, I had crazy
brain fog. I said it on the air, and I
think I was struggling a little with communication. And there
were things at the time, not everything, but there were
things like I would see this yellow thing on the
table and I would go, I know what that's called.
I just can't place it. This yellow thing was a banana, right,
(05:50):
It's something that we see all the time every day.
But I didn't know the name of the banana. And
so I was like, man, this is bizarre. Maybe I
had another seizure in my sleep. At the time, I
was doing idle and they asked me to go and
be on Dance with the Stars, and so I go over,
I want to Dance with the Stars, and I remember
(06:11):
I couldn't remember any steps on the show the whole time,
Like I couldn't remember I have a pretty good memory,
but I could remember no steps. Wasn't a good dancer anyway,
But I had to muscle memory everything, which means two
or three hours for somebody turned in like nine or
ten for me. Because whatever your brain does to memorize things,
I didn't have it. I couldn't rememberple's names. So it
(06:33):
happens one other time and my wife, who we had
just started dating, and I was telling her about this
because one had happened a few months prior to meeting her.
She was like, hey, that ain't normal. This has happened
three times. I'm like, yeah, but I can't. I don't
want to tell work because I don't want them to
think this guy that we're paying a lot of money
to be able to think and create and be compelling
and be funny, that he can't do it. So I'm
(06:55):
hiding the injury basically, just like someone uh with a
hurt knee like you mentioned with you and so we
connect with the neurologists, like my agent's like, hey, I
know somebody whose dad's in a URALA. Just turns out
I had blood clotting in my brain. I had three
small strokes over like five years, and oh my gosh, exactly.
I didn't know that because I wasn't trying to even know,
because I was like, if I don't know, I'm not
(07:15):
holding back and all my company to know. And so I,
you know, got on medicine. I still a little bit
doal with it. I can tell the I'm having really
bad days, but I hid it because I did not
want my company to know I had had these three
they're called a schemias, blood clotting in my brain, many
strokes to where they would go, well, we don't think
we can pay them what we think for the same
(07:40):
exact freaking reason, because I thought they're gonna think that
I don't have the capacity to perform at a high
level the high level I've been performing yet, so I
hid the crap out of it. Now, had this been
year one of my contracts, I'd have been like, I'm
having strokes. I'm having strokes. It's I need out it
here for four months. But that's tough. That's that's the
(08:02):
closest I've ever been to a pro athlete trying hide
a kne injury right there.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
I mean, that's a little bit more serious.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
When you can't remember what a banana oh yeahs or
the names of people, that's pretty weird and at the
same time really scary, and that would make me like
super afraid, like what's going on here? At the same time,
like you said, when it comes down to these corporate
groups or a team or anything like that, any little
thing that they can put a liability claim or something
(08:28):
like that into your contract that says if he has
another one, we don't have to pay him, or he
has to pay back the moneys that we've already paid him,
or something like that, where you're just trying to avoid
that at all costs because you're right there at the
finish line to finish the contract, and you're like, well,
I don't want them, obviously to hold anything back because
I've earned this, but I do have a little bit
(08:49):
of something here, a little baggage in your case, little
strokes that might impact that.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, I didn't want them to go, Hey, we love
you and you've outperformed your last contract, but we don't
feel in all good faith we can pay you as
much as we would have with this quote injury that
you have now, because if I were the corporation, I
would do the same thing I was worried about them
doing to me. So yes, understood it just hit it
(09:16):
and I'm basically a pro bowler.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
That's what we're getting to, basically recovered, and we're all
good now and they are very happy. Now, did you
ever actually tell them about any of this or this
is going to be the first time they're hearing it.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
It could be the first time they're hearing it. I've
only talked about it once or twice ever. But I'm
so deep in this contract now. But what it turned
out because that all this gray matter in my brain
that was all jacked up. It was just from sleep.
I didn't sleep for years and years and years. And
oh man, my doctor was like, hey, I can see
like the exact maybe not dates, but those how long
it's been since the last ones because of my brain?
(09:50):
They showed me on a scan and he was like,
I bet you had one like seven months ago. I
bet you had one because of again the gray or
white matter. And now but I got like years left.
So if they were to say something now, I'd be like, ah,
what are you gonna do? Yeah? I got three years after.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
This, dell. Yeah, I can't remember a banana?
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Who exactly? How many time we talking about bananas every day?
You know what I mean? My wife does. She like
keeps me in line though, Like if I'm starting to
even feel it, like she kind of cracks the whip.
How was your wife with you playing ball?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
In?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
That?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Was she? Because my wife's super supportive. But also if
I'm like overdoing something, she knows that my goal is
to be the best version I can be professionally, and
she'll go, you're overdoing yourself. You're not going to be
as good as you want to be because of what
you're doing right now. What was that relationship like, well.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
She understood the athlete's mindset her also, her one rule was, look,
if you go down, you get up if you can,
regardless of how bad that injury is. If you can
get up, then get up, like don't sit on the field.
And there was only really one time I can remember
that I didn't get up. I got a concussion against
Baltimore where I got knocked out, and she understood that
(11:00):
it was something a little bit more serious. But even
when I broke my foot, I got up, abble to
the sideline even though it was super painful, and got up.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
And so that was her one world.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
She's kind of a badass in that circumstance, Like the
almost reminded me of the girl from any given Sunday.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Like you're the goddamn quarterback, you know the team and.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Stuff like that. So she just she pushed me to
be the best. But she was also on me about
my nutrition and this, that and the other, and was
always there anytime I need her, even in the off
season when we go to a new team or something
like that.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
She would quiz me the plate. So I'd give her
the list of plays.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
I'd be like, look, I need to get quizz on
these because I need to be able to say this
and regurgitate in the huddle. And so she'd quiz me.
So she was she was on board. She was down
for whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
D one athlete wife, that's awesome. Where for me, my
wife great athlete, but like she has like a family
where I didn't. So I was like, if I don't
need to take care of myself, like if I something
happens to me, who cares? Where she was like, how
your wife was instilling what she knew because she was
in that life as well. My wife was doing that
as all, Like, hey, you now have a family, you
(12:05):
more on, Like you need to take care of yourself
because if not, you're gonna be dead and you're gonna
leave us all here. So yeah, here's the good women.
If we had something to toast, we toast good women
right here.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
But where's the women?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yes, we're coming back with Nico Collins. We'll take a
quick break. Nico Collins in just a second wide receiver, Houston, Texans.
(12:39):
Nico Collins, how are you feeling physically. Where are you now?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I'm in Houston, man, I just got back yesterday, starting
the off season program, cranking back up. So feeling great.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
How's the hamstring? Like you still able to run on
a FOLI now?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yeah, I'm good, feeling great. I can't wait for this year, man.
I feel it's a great year, starting your five new OC.
You know, a great team, you know, so Kny Kane
wait to get started when they're energy right now.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Is nice when there's a new ROC. Like how how
much installation happens preseason versus how much once you guys
all get together like early ball.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, it's a lot. I feel like when the when
the OC first comes, you know he's want to get
the base foundation started, you know, you want to get
the run game, you know, the past game situation. So
I feel like the first OTAs man is really just
getting the foundation started, you know, the quick game, you know,
the intermedia routes, the meetium routes, you know, just getting
(13:37):
stuff down pay you know, really found the rhythm of things,
you know, and really see how team is going to
be ran. You know, once we transitioned from OTAs to.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Camp, when the transition happens. Do they ever keep some
of the language so it's not you know, a full
installation or or since he's there now, I mean, did
he change all the language?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
No? I think now is he's I think now they
meet in to see what we're going to keep in
the house and what you know, what he was want
to run as well. So I feel like now is
what we you know, go through and see what fits
us and what we're gonna work use throughout the season.
So I feel like now it's ota is we used
that time to see like I would pretty much see
(14:17):
like what what plays and what you know, type of style,
type of offense we're gonna be heading into the twenty
twenty twenty six season. And so I feel like during camp, man,
you that's when you're really going into your bag and
really you know, bring out your your best plays, you know,
because you're getting ready for the season. You know. I
feel like now it's you know, you're trying to get
the foundation started and you know, get the main details down.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Like last year you went off like no doubt, you
went off. You stayed off until until you got hurt
a little bit, but you went off. So when when
a new oc comes in. Are you are you concerned
at all? Or are you just like we're gonna amplify
what we did with the new guy.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
I feel like we when I win, you know, a
new new coach come in. You know, I feel like
we just gotta we we build on what we did
last year. You know, just you know, putting me, putting
me in positions you know that that fits. You know
the best things I do, you know, so and just
anybody you know me to pull in the white house,
to running back, you know, just putting guys in the
right position for us to you know exceed, you know great,
(15:18):
you know, make plays for the team. Man. So you
know I'm incited for this year, man, excited for you
know the offense and you know the energy. You know
we're gonna bring this year. Man, I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Some of my friends up play pro basketball. They talk
about when they're on, like the rim looks like it's
ten feet wide, and you know they can't miss. Like
when you're on, ain't missed? Like what's the what's the
difference with you? Does the ball look bigger? Does it
like softer? Do the players look slower?
Speaker 2 (15:42):
And man? Everything I think when I'm on like the ball.
Everything is moving slow motion, like everything the ball's coming slow. Guys,
just look slower. Yeah, it's just like action figures out there.
You know, it's just a bag drill. That's kind of
what it feels like. You know, it's just routs on there.
You know you're not seeing nobody. Everything's just moving. You
know you're blocking out the noise. Man, You're just in
(16:03):
the moment. Man, I feel like that's no better feel. Man.
Once you when you find that groove, you know, you
know how it is. It is. It's unstoppable the stock
you know. Yeah, that group, it's nice. I love being
that group.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
You ever self scout yourself for tendencies, to make sure
that you're not being scouted for tendencies, to make sure
you're not doing things like on the line that they
already know what you're about to do.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I try to. I try to,
you know, modify my game to keep it the same
because I'm a bigger receiver, you know, so it's it's
easier for me. You know, I'm sick for it, so
it's easier for me to you can tell when it's
time for me to detail stop speed up. You know,
it's it's easier, easier indicators, you know. So I feel like,
for me, man, just that's one thing I self scout
(16:44):
is how can I find ways to make everything look
the same, you know, my tempo changing, or they know
when I come the ball fast, it's either going to
be a deep route or I'm coming off slow might
be a run play, you know. So I feel like
right now I'm at the point of my career where
I need to make everything look the same. And I
feel like that's the thing that I've been chasing, you know,
even when I'm tired, you know for a quarter. You know,
you got to run a post route, you know, or
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you got to run the incut. How can you make
everything look the same? You know, so the the dbs
you know, can't cover. You know, they're smart too, you know,
they great players, and they get paid as well, you know,
so they watch film, you know, they pros, you know,
so they know they know the game, you know, so
they know when when it's a run, playoff pass player.
So I feel like for me, that's that's one step
I gotta take, you know, just making everything look the same,
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you know, keep my pay love alow being phelsical with
a lot of scrimmags, you know which I am, you know,
but I feel like for me to just continue to
work on those stamps.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Yeah, you're physical, you're large. Do you like when a
dB comes up to jam you? Is that fun? Like,
let's go, Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
That's trying to football.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Man.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
I feel like that's that's that brings the energy, you know,
that brings to the competitive in na should I have.
And I love competing, man, Like, let's go. You know,
when God come down to press, you know, that's he's
trying to stop you from making plays, you know, and
for me, it's the team trust me to go make
it play. You know, whatever your numbers called, you got
to make it play in it. So I feel like
for me, man, I love being pressed.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I love competing, you know, because hey, they putting, they
all into that that pressure down, you know, so you
know you beat them off the line, you know a lot.
You know, keep running your reps and you know you can,
you'll know when you take their pridehood.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Speaking of getting your number called, if I'm correct, you
were drafting third round. Well, what are these guys feeling?
What are they feeling right now as we're inching up,
what were you feeling about this point as the draft
was about to happen.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, Man, I was anxious. Didn't know where to go,
you know, I didn't know where I was gonna go,
didn't know what team, you know, believe didn't me like
me enough, you know, just coming from the senior Bowl, man,
you know, it was a lot of emotions. You know
pro day as well. You know, it's a lot of
nervous because you train your whole life to get to
this level where you you know where God's training to
go now, you know, and so when you get to
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this level, man, it's it's it's the best of the best.
You know, guys all right great at this level. Man.
So around this time, man, it was a lot of emotions. Man,
it was. Man, it was hard to explain. Man, it's anxious, nervous,
you know, just just what you know. You never know
if he was gonna get picking out, you know, it's
different coming from high school to college where you get
to pick where school you want to go to. And
but now it's the complete opposite. You know, teams got
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to see if they like you know what I'm saying,
so I feel like that was that was the big
difference for me feeling, you know, just coming into the drive,
you know. So, Man, I end up just being with
my family around the time. Man, you know, getting the
draft house, being with my family, man, being my loved ones.
I feel like that that really helped me out, you know,
and just talking to my mom, my parents. You know,
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it's just been telling me, you know, whatever team get me, man,
just make sure you you go and you know, make
your mard have fun with it, you know, and just
thank God for it all, you know, and just have fun,
you know, the same game be playing your entire life.
You know, it's just at the highest level. You know,
it's something you've been dreaming about your entire life and
it's finally here, you know, So taking a run with it, man,
you know, take advantage of your opportunities.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
What teams did you meet with? And was the Texans
one of those teams you thought might pop up and
draft you.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Actually I was meeting with a lot of teams, man.
I'm met with the Tennessee Titans a lot, Jacksonville, Jacksonville
a couple of times, man, New York Giants, Yeah, Houston.
I ended up meeting with Houston, like it was later man,
and the interview was like five minutes.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
They just asked me how I was doing, how I
was feeling, you know, and it was good. You know,
they like like my game things like that. So it
was short. It was short and sweet.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Man.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
It wasn't nothing, nothing too crazy. But I feel like
just around the time, I wasn't expecting, you know, the Houston, Houston,
Texas to pick ups man, pick me. You know, it
was just it's a blessing you because around that time,
you know, Jacksonville there was you know, they was interviewing
me a lot, you know, like every day it's hard questions,
you know, just things like that. So I kind of thought,
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you know, he's gonna be Tennessee, Jacksonville. Jacksonville is pretty
hard to with the interviews, you know, accident asking me
a lot of questions, you know, asking about the family
and stuff. So I really thought I was gonna either
Jacksonville Tennessee around this time for sure, but not jackson
Is definitely surprised me then, you know, that was my team.
I was not expecting. You know, they kept a short
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interview and ended up.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Picking I'm from Arkansas, So for me to go to
school somewhere cold, that would not have been preferred. Now
you're from Alabama, how did you end up in Michigan
because that feels like a whole different climate.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Man, it's night and day, man, I say, Jim Harball. Man,
Jim Harball, he came down to the Big ten, came
down from the Big ten SEC country man and got me.
And I was, I was. I was blessing though to
be highly recruited a lot of teams in the SEC. Man,
pretty much, I had every team in SEC, and Michigan
is my only Big Ten. And it was just something
about coach Harball. Man. He stood out. He was different
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from all the other coaches just his his you know,
just way he just came about the game, man. You know,
he cared for the players, you know, on and off
the field, for the families. You know. He was a
real football guy, you know. And it stood out. It
was different from the rest of the coaches in the business.
I went on, you know, So he came down, Man.
I went up there a couple of times for official visits, man,
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and love the culture.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
Man.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I think that was when they first went to Jordan
and so I just see myself wanting Jordan's I think
it was the first Jordan team college football all that time. Man,
So it was dope. Man. I feel like just me
going up there playing the Amazing Blue was different. You know,
coming from Alabama. You know, a lot of guys didn't
do that. You know a lot of guys normally stayed
in the state, either go to Alabama or Arburn, Georgia,
you know, Florida, they stay in the South. Man. But
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I just wanted to do something different, you know, I
just wanted to go up to the north, you know,
playing the big Tin. You know, it's just see what
was different. She was out there, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
What about catching the ball in the cold though, Like
catching the football in the coal, you had to learn Yeah, yeah,
that's that's hard, right.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
It's hard, man, because your hands are numb and the
football as hard as a brick, and it's coming fast.
You got to put your hands up catch it. It's terrible. Man.
I feel like that was my worst experience. Like that
winter in Michigan was probably my worst my freshman year.
Speaker 6 (22:58):
Man.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Like I didn't I didn't know how to dress for
the cold. I had jackets. I was not doing it
for the weather man. You need a cold. I didn't
have no boots. I was going through it. Man, My
first win in December was it was they had a
call Mom like, Yo, can you send me like a
care package? I mean showing I need to go shop
for it. I need to stay warm here. But no,
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it was the best decision I ever made, though, Man.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Watching you last season, just watching U the other wide
receivers run the NFL, like there are a lot of guys.
There are a lot of like dudes, but like you
were that dude, Like the whole season like you were
that dude. And everybody started to realize that about about
Game three where it was like, okay, he has separated
himself from everybody. Did you do anything last year leading
into the season there was different or is it just
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a normal maturation process?
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Yeah? Yeah, I didn't do anything different. I feel like
I build on I build on last year, my second
coming off my third year, and this year I feel
like I was just building it, you know, just finding
the things that was good for me. My third year,
I did it again. You know, I amped it up,
you know, just taking the games to another level, you know,
just trying to you know, learn stuff, learn from different people.
You know, I had you know, stuff on this joins
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us this year, you know, just learning from him, you know,
just learning, you know, how to be become a great receiver.
I've been watching stuff for years, you know, middle school,
you know, throughout high school. You know, even now, I'm
still watching you know, guys like that man, just leaders,
you know, I lean on, ask some questions the best. Man.
Just find the ways to go about my game.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Man.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
So I feel like there's always ways to improve in
your game and there's no seiling. So I feel like
for me, man, just strong for greatness and not gaining
place and not getting comfortable, you know, just because you
had a little you know, success is it's a blessing,
you know. But I feel like for me, you got
to continue to go, continue to remember like your goals
and you know, being worth for s you know, just
saying advantage of every opportunity. You know, that was that
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was what I was doing. You know. You just never
know when the game could be done, you know. And
I feel I just I realized that, man, just flip
the switch. And I'm still continuing to realizing that now.
You know, just enjoying everything you know, because they could
be over them all never know. You know, So like
nah man just having fallen joined the process and love.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
Got three final questions. And I'll talk about c J.
Stroud first. I mean Ohio State. So that's you know
a few years ago maybe you guys wouldn't gotten gotten
along so well. But what's he liked the facility? What's
he what's he like on the practice field?
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Yeah, he was a leader, man. I feel like he
was a born leader from day one since he came in. Man,
just his work at his leadership. He was there. Man,
he came in not even looking like a rookie. Man,
he came ready to lead. You know, because first two
years we was was a winner. You know, this program
it was probably maybe one of winning like five games
two years my first two years I was here, Man,
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it was it was kind of our rebuilt year. It
was kind of hard. But you know, once we drafted CJ.
Will Man and uh Henry Man, I feel like this
entire team, that draft class was nice, bro and I
feel like we stepped it up. That's what we needed.
We needed that that those guys man to come in
and make it their for instance, they did and c J.
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Every day in the building. Man, it's just you can
tell he's on the mission. You know. He he leads
the right way. He be there for you, man, and
there's no better guy to go out there and play.
Play for it.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Man.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
You know he got your back. It's a great guy,
man and humble. He's only calm and collected, that's what
I call him. He's real calm, you know, and precious
high lights getting bright. You know the guy says the same. Man,
I feel like that's that's type we got.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
You need it as a quarterback, right, final two questions.
Did you keep any balls from this season? Any special
moments where you kept the ball?
Speaker 2 (26:37):
For sure? Man, I kept a lot of footballs. Man,
got a thousand yards and kept that first touchdown reception.
I kept that. But else my second, my second touchdown
I scored. I guess I think it was they got
called out first, one second, got a called back. I
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was sick first, I was down, David. I know it
was my mom's birthday, so I had to I had
kept that ball, gave it to her. So it was
a great, great one. Uh, I was gonna keep the
Dallas ball that first play. I came back after my injury.
Uh ended up breaking like a saving the yard six
or nine touchdown got called back sick. So I was
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you know, I still kept that ball because.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
It counted me.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
It's coming back from you know, just missing five games,
you know, and that that game against Dallas, and that's
being the first play batman and no, and they gave
me the ball the first play and you know I
took it to the house. I feel like that was
a it was a great feeling for me, you know,
just coming off injury, you know, good blowing injury, ham stream,
you know, and that being my first play back. Man,
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you know I had to keep that, you know it
kind of it kind of my buoys might not count
nobody else, but you know that's that's something to remember,
you know. But I always keep a lot of my
footballs because you know, it's it's hard to score in
this league.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Man.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Just so like when you look back ten years from now, man,
tear your kids or you know, grand kids. You know,
this is what I was doing back in the day.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Final question, the easy one, like what's the expectation, what's
the ceiling for this year? You know, what's the goal
for sure?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I mean I feel like the ceilings is everybody selling
you know, we gotta get to that super Bowl. You
know it's ceiling. But I feel like our goal, man
is just continue to get better, continue to not be
the same every week, you know, improved, you know, and
it seemed to be us.
Speaker 8 (28:28):
I feel like when were out there having fun, we
play our best ball, not thinking, you know, And I
feel like for us, as that might, that's gonna be
our challenge. Man, who out there having fun you know
and being enoughs man, being nuts and not thinking too much.
I feel like that that's when we had the most
fun and winning games.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Man.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
The potential of this ceiling, this team this year, Man,
I feel like it's great, you know, and I can
feel it right now in the building, just you know,
first second week workout, you know, flowing the mindset from
the coaches to the players, you know, everybody, staff, you know, everybody. Man,
I feel like the energy is there. I feel like
the missions everybody know who the mission is. And we
don't want to have that feeling we had last year,
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you know, getting to the same spot we did twice
two years back to back. End I proceed that, you know,
so we know what we gotta do we know what
it takes to to go to the next level and
go to the next game, you know. So I feel
like for us, it's a great feeling, it's great energy,
and I can't wait for everybody to get back.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
Nick.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I appreciate you your fun to watch man. It's awesome,
awesome to see last year just killing Yeah, rooting for
you guys. So thanks for the time, Nico.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
For sure, oh problem, thank you so much that we
go everybody.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
Hey, man, who do you think has the craziest fan base?
Speaker 7 (29:47):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (29:48):
I mean the Bills have to be in there with
the Bills Mafia, there's no doubt about that. Philly Philly,
Philly and the Bills. I'd probably say those two. Maybe
the Las Vegas Raiders with the black Hole and everything.
Seattle Seahawks are it's a good one place to play.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
That's a good one.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
Yeah, I mean because they've got they retired the number
twelve because of the Twelfth Man. That's their big deal
up there, and I think that they have to pump
artificial noise in that stateiument.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
It's wild.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
The twelfth Man is a good one, which I don't
think I would have gone there. I'm glad you did.
Did you ever play in Seattle?
Speaker 7 (30:22):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (30:22):
Yeah, multiple times?
Speaker 4 (30:24):
And it as loud as can be and it's always dreary,
little bit damp, you know. And when they had the
Legion of Boom, that place was rocking. Marshawn Lynch, that
whole group.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
I mean, they were a good, good football team.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
How is it? And I guess I should say where
is it when it is so loud? Like, how is
there a difference in deafening and really loud and just
kind of loud? And does it affect play?
Speaker 4 (30:51):
It does, because communication when it is so loud, particularly
when you get to some of these end zones, like
in Seattle, even New Orleans when they were at their height,
they were so loud, and particularly in the end zones,
that communication because so much is going on, particularly if
you're a quarterback in an offensive unit that you identify
the linebacker to set protections and set the front. That
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everybody's got to be communicating and you're not using cadence.
You're all on silent count because if you use cadence,
everybody's going to jump off sides. And you see it
often if they try to use cadence and it's too loud,
there's just some guy that gets a little bit jumpy,
so you're waiting for that ball to move. So under center,
I literally would slap the center's butt, hed bob his
head and snap the ball. And that was the indicator.
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And then the wide receivers on the outside, all they're
looking at is looking in to see the ball move.
They don't even concentrate on the slap or anything like that.
And then when you're in the gun, you're using a foot,
so you can go silent one, silent two, silent three
in some cases.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
And everybody's got to be on it.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
But it definitely changes your communication because when you're up
at the line of scrimmage you want to change protection.
That's when you see like the old school clips of
Peyton Manning running up and down the line communicating to everybody,
being very demonstrative. Well, that's because communication is key to
getting a.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
When you say you use the foot and shotgun, what
do you mean.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
So when you're standing back there the indicator, you either
have the guard or the center sometimes will look through
his legs and you're literally lifting your leg up one leg.
Speaker 6 (32:17):
And that's silent one. Silent two would be two lifts.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
So you go like this, he goes down, Bob's head
comes up, then he looks back down. Bob's it again,
or you have a guard tap him, And so that's
how you would start the cadence. You would use no
cadence whatsoever. It was all silent count.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
So you're telling me their instance where the guard is watching,
so he can tell the center what the silent count is.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Yes, because I think it's a better method to be
honest with you. Because the sinner controls the front, he's
setting stuff after I will identify, Hey, the middle linebackers here,
so I set it originally, but he's talking to the
guards continuously, and it's getting passed down, like hey, watch
this guy coming down here or the game or whatever.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
It might be.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
So as the center keeps his eyes on the defense,
the guard looks back and all he does is he taps.
He taps the center on the side, and that now
the center knows it's time to go, and so he's able.
They're both able to get their eyes on the defense.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
For the most part, I think I do feel like
I learned something, Like I feel like I'm mildly knowledgeable,
but I didn't know because I've seen the leg lifts
and knew that one or two, but I never knew
there were other eyes. It's like in your neighborhood neighborhood
watch where people are out at night, like we have
the neighborhood. The guard is the freaking neighborhood watch. For
the center of the quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Yeah, you'll see these guys look back like this, and
you'll see them just kind of put their hand out.
Sometimes they'll even put it out in front of their
face like this, So that that's the indicator that we
got to get going.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Another one of the teams I put up for fan
base is the Packers, because one, you got to be
crazy to go to games that cold. They are. They loud.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
They're relatively loud. I mean, the coolest part about it
is a historic value of that place and so much history.
You're walking down all the locker room's green, but then
the Lambeau Leap and everything that they have.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
They're loud.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
But I wouldn't say there is lot as Seattle or
even a Kansas City. When Kansas City's rocking, that fan
base will get after you. There's some really loud stadiums,
There's no doubt about that. But I would say that
they're not as loud as like I said Seattle, Kansas City.
Pittsburgh gets loud too with the terrible towels I mean.
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And the other part about Pittsburgh they travel. We've had
games in Kansas City before where there's more than half
the stadium dressed up in Steelers outfits. I'm like, I
thought this was a home game. What is going on
right now?
Speaker 3 (34:36):
People liked this last week, Let's do another edition of
What Were They Like? Where I just picked somebody that
I think you knew, and you tell me what they
were like. And this week I pick tell me about
Doug Flutey.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Doug Flutey, this guy was a legend when I showed
up to New England. He's forty one years old and
he's not big in stature. I mean, he's probably five
to ten, might be generous five nine, but he had
an absolute cannon for an arm and I'll never forget
come in the first day I'm coming in as a rookie,
I'm walking up and he pulls up in like an
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old school trans aam with an.
Speaker 6 (35:12):
Eagle on the front.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
He lived, he lived in the nineteen eighties, did like
he had the hair flow and he was like a
little kid. I mean, he loved every sport. He'd playing
pickup basketball, he played in a hard ball baseball league
Get forty one in the offseason, and he'd come in
and he'd tell you all of his stats. He was
like a little kid. He'd tell you all of his stats,
how many innings he pitched, the people he stole base
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He'd go out to Finnway and before games he'd go
down there constantly and just shag balls for batting practice,
like he was a legend. And I'll never forget the
It was the end of the year that year. We're
playing Miami at home, and I got to play for
three quarters, and the crowd was getting frustrated because they
wanted to see Flutie. Like it's Boston, Boston College, like
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he's a legend there.
Speaker 6 (36:00):
And so Flutie could do this thing called the.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
Drop kick, and it hadn't been done for god knows
how long, you know, thirty years, whatever it was. And
we go down and I throw my first touchdown pass
in my career to Tim Dwight on lower return route.
He falls in well, Doug Flutie runs on the field
and he's going to do this dropkick because Bill's a
big historian, so he's like, can you do this in
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the game, and Doug's like, yeah, I'll do it. So
Doug lines up behind the center in a shotgun snap
and everybody is going wild and the defense doesn't know
what to think because we're in a field goal formation
with just Flutie back there. And he drops it, hits
the ground, kicks it through the uprights for a pat
does the dropkick. So now it's like super Bowl winning
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type stuff. The crowd is all, now I come back
out for the next series for the two minute drill,
and they are booing.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
They're so pissed off Doug Footie is not back in
the game.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
I'm like, guys, I mean, he went in for the
drop kick.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
It was awesome, but can I just can you give
me a little bit of support right here? No, no,
they're going flute flutey. It was great.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
But he was a great teammate, funny as hell. I mean,
I will say in meetings he was one of those
guys that's old school, right. He wants to block it
up and throw it down. So we'd be going through
the game plan sometimes and after Britty would get the
gun going through his favorites. They'd get the fluty and
they'd be like, all right, so if you get in
there or if something happens, what do you want me
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to Sorry. He's like, look, just block it up and
call goes.
Speaker 6 (37:27):
I'll make it work. And he was just that kind
of dude. I was laughing my ass off though.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
He's a funny, funny dude.
Speaker 7 (37:49):
All right, you're up.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
All right, Bear Girls, tell me some good Bear Girls stories.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
So Bear Girls has the show, he has many shows,
but he has a Running Wild to Bear Girls, where
he takes out celebrities and takes them all over the
world to places and basically sees, if you can die.
That's what it felt like anyway. And I got a
call and says, hey, do you want to do Running
Wild with Bear Grills on nat gu on Disney Plus.
And I was like, I don't think so, Like I'm
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good God, I don't not for adventure. I had enough
of that my whole life growing up. And they're like, no, no, no,
I don't think you understand, Like he only really asks
famous people and you're not famous, so that would be
cool for you to do. That's that's position. And I
said oh, okay, and so I begrudgingly said yeah, sure,
thinking we would go to like New Orleans or Las
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Vegas into the a dune or something, and they were like,
all right, we're gonna go to Norway. I never been
to Norway, long trip, and it's like you'll be there
for two days. You're in the wilderness, it's cold, but
you'll land and off you go. And so I'm like,
all right, cool. So I got on a flight. We
fly to Norway. Let's like fly to Paris and then
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Amsterdam and then a small town in Norway, and you
get off as beautiful by the way, but you land
and it's just right into the show. As soon as
I land, I throw my bags in a room and
they're like, all right, let's go. I haven't met Bear
or anything, and so I watched a couple episodes on
the way on the flight, just to kind of see
what was going on. And I'd seen a couple a
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few years prior, but it wasn't like I watched all
the Bear Girls episodes. So a little bit had to
reintroduce myself to what was about to happen. And I
didn't like what I was introduced to because I was like,
I don't want to do this stuff. I hate heights.
And so we're in a foreign country and they're like,
just go and I he'll join you. And all of
a sudden, I see a helicopter flying over the top
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and here's bear like hanging off the side of it,
and he's like all right, and the helicopters still running
and he's like, clip on right here, and I'm like,
what is that clip on right here? Nothing not met
him anything, all I here is this guy yelling at me,
and I clip on. All of a sudden, the helicopters
lifted us off right and we're like just hanging from
the freaking helicopter flying over nowhere. I'm like, oh my god,
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I hate heights. And it's little literally a clip from
me falling to my death hundreds of feet. So we
finally land and it's freezing cold and it's raining the
whole time, and my adrenaline is pumping, but I don't
know why, because I don't know what I'm about to do,
and so we just start hiking. We have like twenty
miles to hike that day to get to our end destination,
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and part of it is going through water and again,
it's probably thirty seven degrees and it's raining, and so
we go and it's wet, and I'm telling you, it's
not like there are producers following you around giving you
like TUTSI rolls or blankets. Like it's as legit as
it possibly can be unless you like tap out. And
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so we're going and we're going through marsh and I
like fall and I'm wet. My whole leg's wet. It's
less than forty degrees. Bear's really nice. But again, we're
shooting a TV show and we're trying to get to
our place before dark, and we come across this disgusting
rotted goat and it's floating on the water. And what
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we were looking for were like some birds or some plants,
because he was like, hey, we're gonna try to find
some birds to eat because then we'll cook them and
eat them because he's you know, he was in like
special forces in like the UK. And I'm like, great,
this part no problem with grew up in the woods
in Arkansas, hunting my whole life. Whatever you need. So
we're going through, but it's a rotted goat that's poking
out of this cold water, and so I have to
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go and wade. I don't have any extra socks wade
to this goat. We drag it to the land and
Bear is smart enough to know, well, if that side's rotted,
the other side is going to be perfectly preserved because
the water's cold. So we pull it, we flip it over.
He's absolute right, it's perfectly preserved. And he's like, he's like,
I'll skin this. Cameras are with us, but the cameras
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aren't allowed to like talk with this that we're not
allowed to talk to the cameramen at all. And he's like,
if you ever use a knife, and I'm like, oh,
I can clean this animal. He didn't know that. I'm
like a hillbilly like growing up, and he's like, you can,
you can clear an animal. However, I don't have to
have a good British accent, and so like I freaking
cleaned the goat, like half the goat, and yeah, I
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was able to like to And he was so shocked
by that, and I think a little bit his outdoorsman
respect of me went up a notch. I didn't deserve it,
but it went up a notch and we're like going
off clip. It was miserable. I'm coming off like off ropes.
We're falling off four hundred feet cliffs. And we get
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to the end of the night because you do a
full like twelve hours you sleep out in the in
the wilderness, and then you have another like six hours
the next day to get to the final spot. And
the best part of it was after I would like
I'd like kill myself all day. It felt like and
have died multiple times. It was just Bar and I
sitting at a fire, no cameras. They don't put you
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in a hotel or anything. You literally are out there
in a tent. We just sat around and talked for
like four hours. Was like the greatest dude, like so
generous with the stories, but he's like talking about good
celebrit these difficult celebrities. Was so like open and like vulnerable,
Like I loved the dude. I ended up doing the
show the next season as well, but that whenever we
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were leaving the next day, he was like, you already
get back on the helicopter, And there's a clip of
me getting back on the helicopter and the helicopter being
funny and like doing like one of those go straight
and then jerk and it like swings you and you
see me just swing out of the helicopter. Dude the worst.
He was super kind. I felt like I died many times.
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It came back to live and did it again the
next year. I think there were only two people that
had done it twice. Me and Channing Tatum were very similar,
especially with our shirts off. But he couldn't have been kind.
And we keep in touch, and Bear Girls is as
nice as he seems on the show. So that's my
Bear Girls story.
Speaker 6 (43:54):
Did I love that you did that show? Because I
would watch that show religiously, like.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
I wonder if that would be fun to do. But
it did look like you guys were out in the
elements that I didn't know. It was two full days,
twenty miles of hiking, but they find random.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
Food, You do all that stuff. But it's definitely a
mental grind, without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (44:11):
Well, they also probably know what your weaknesses are and
they challenge you on them. So I hated heights. I
made a mistake of saying that. I was like, yeah,
I'm good everything, but heights. So it was all heights.
It was all freaking heights. It was like, what can
we find to throw him off of that will make
him possibly cry. And so yeah, if anyone's wondering, Bear
Girls and Doug Flutie a plus.
Speaker 5 (44:32):
A plus A plus individuals, We're gonna draft our sports
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movie team.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
I will give you the category. Okay, there'll be five categories.
You draft your position. The first is of your sports
movie team. Your leader. Who do you draft to be
the leader of your team? Mmm?
Speaker 7 (45:11):
The leader of my team.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
I'm gonna go with Roy Hobbs from The Natural, a
movie that you've never seen.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
But I know what I've seen clips. I've seen clips.
I mean he hits into the lights. I thought that
was cool.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
I mean, not only is he a great baseball player,
but he fought through adversity.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Well, I don't know didversity huh? I don't know what's
the audiversity?
Speaker 7 (45:28):
Oh? He got shot.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
Really yeah by a lady on a train that had
like full mental issues wanted to want to be his girlfriend.
But I have no idea what happened, but really set
back his career. But he fought back from that adversity,
made it all the way up to whatever he was
and was a great teammate, great player, great leader, just
all around.
Speaker 7 (45:49):
Good human being Roy Hobbs.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
I'm going with Shane Falco from the replacements.
Speaker 7 (45:53):
I do love that. That's a great call.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
The ultimate underdog quarterback. Nobody believed in Shane Falco. No,
Shane Vacco freaking played though, and he balled. He bald hard,
bald hard good ones. All right, next up your athletic freak.
Speaker 7 (46:11):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (46:12):
I mean I was thinking about this and I always
remember watching Blue Chips growing up, and then I remember
Shack was the actor in Blue Chips, was the guy
that they paid for to come in be part of
the program.
Speaker 7 (46:26):
Take him to national championship. You know the name?
Speaker 3 (46:28):
Yeah what Booby No, No, no, no, Neon Neon. He
was Neon Neon, Yeah, Neon like boodoh Boudoir, Yeah, Boudoir.
Speaker 4 (46:38):
They way down to the gym and they're in that
sweaty gym and he's just dunking.
Speaker 7 (46:40):
The ball over people.
Speaker 3 (46:41):
Blue Chips was so legit.
Speaker 4 (46:43):
It was a great movie, like a really good inside look.
Penny was in it too, Yeah, Kenny Hardway was baller two.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
They get no freakier in a great way than Shaq. Yeah,
and I had two A plus's on this one. I
don't want to be the guy that picks two. No,
please do Forrest Gump.
Speaker 7 (47:04):
That's a solid pick right.
Speaker 3 (47:06):
There, University of ball Obama.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
Like he just kept gone running kickoffs back gone marathon.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
Yes, yes, yes, I mean dog didn't Forrest Gump? Wow,
you get no freaky or athletically.
Speaker 4 (47:21):
No, because he's like weird too and he doesn't even
know he's doing it.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
The other one that was right because I felt really
good about forty Gump.
Speaker 7 (47:28):
Be honestly, I'll say that's all time right there.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
Bobby Bouche was number two.
Speaker 7 (47:31):
Bobby Bouche. I thought he'd be a wild card for you.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
Because he hits like Ray Lewis on steroids. Like Bobby
Bouche took heads off, Yes he did. But Forrest Gump
has got to be my freek that's a great call,
all right. Next up in the draft, you're a wild
card for any reason whatsoever? Which athlete would you have
on your team?
Speaker 7 (47:51):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (47:51):
Happy Gilmore? Great one, Happy Gilmore? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (47:55):
That's a good one. Well I'm going air Bud. It's
a freaking dog, dude. I got a freaking dog who
can play ball like no nobody else got a dog.
Speaker 7 (48:07):
You know what?
Speaker 4 (48:07):
The funniest part about this When you sent this, my
wife and I had a conversation. This is going to
be a great conversation. And she's like, what about airbud.
I was like, I can't go with the dog, like, Honey,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
I go with the dog. You with the dog, and
I love it.
Speaker 7 (48:24):
Literally had that conversation.
Speaker 3 (48:26):
Their bud's legit, Like, I just imagine talk about the
dog that can play ball. They'd be so distracted by
the dog they can't they can't focus.
Speaker 4 (48:32):
Yeah, and not only did that dog play basketball, played volleyball?
Speaker 3 (48:35):
One button the red zone.
Speaker 4 (48:38):
Oh, just go up, get it breaking ankles or biting
ankles one?
Speaker 3 (48:45):
All right, coach? Who's your coach?
Speaker 7 (48:47):
Oh? Man?
Speaker 4 (48:48):
I went with uh oh, Jackie Moon, Will Ferrell. He's
semi pro, he's the owner. He also is a player,
he's pregame announcer, and he fought a bear. I mean,
does it get any better than Jackie Moon?
Speaker 3 (49:03):
It does not, except I'm gonna give you close, not better,
but close. Mickey from Rocky because you need.
Speaker 9 (49:10):
To get up, Get up bones, get up, get up
rock Like he's the guy that because I'm probably gonna
be like and he's like, get up bone, Airbud, get up.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Airbud would knock right.
Speaker 7 (49:23):
He's the only dog that could knock Rocky out.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
And finally, like, you're Enforcer, you're tough guy, who would
you draft there?
Speaker 4 (49:30):
I went was Jean Claude van Dam from blood Sport.
I mean, let's be honest. I know he's not like
your typical team tough guy, but I mean the guy
went for like battle to the death wherever the hell
they were in blood Sport and fought that one guy
who was very intimidating, and he fought blind, I mean
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pretty hardcore. He did remember that. Yes, he's like closing
his eyes so underappreciated, could just feel the wind in
his air and just block mind.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Forcer didn't love him, but with definitely accept him on
my team. Ivon Drago from Rocky four, It's great. I
want him roided up. I want every way he cheated
against America to be cheating for America with me and Airbud.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
HGH, steroids and fetamines. I want the whole passage, all
of it. Yeah, and I want the girl that traveled
with him, the blonde that might have been with the
short hair.
Speaker 7 (50:28):
I think she was more intense than he was.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
One of my honorable mentions for the coach was just
se if you know who this is, Gordon Bombay, familiar,
go Gordon Bombay, give it to me mighty ducks.
Speaker 7 (50:39):
Oh, that was a great call. My uh runner up
for a coach was Ted Lasso.
Speaker 3 (50:45):
Great call. Didn't even get on my list and I missed.
Speaker 4 (50:49):
That's a that is a great I mean inspiring fun
to play rings your little little cookie treat take treats.
And my other one for runner up of leader was
Roy from Ted Lasso, you know the hardcore.
Speaker 3 (51:04):
My enforcer back up was another rocky clubber lang, which
was mister t. Oh, mister t. That was great. Did
you know, mister t you know all the chains he wore?
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Right?
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Did you know why he wore that? Initially was because
he worked bouncer at a club and people would just
leave stuff at the bar and he's just cool. Collect
him away. I'm on his neck and that's where his
look came from.
Speaker 7 (51:24):
Hey, anyway you can come up, bro, I'm down with that.
Speaker 6 (51:27):
All right.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
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