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March 27, 2025 23 mins

What if Yellowstone had to be cast all over again—with today’s biggest stars? In this special bonus episode, Bobby Bones steps into the casting chair and reimagines the Dutton universe like never before. From Josh Brolin as a rugged new John Dutton to Lady Gaga as a fierce alternative Beth, Bobby dives deep into dream casting, surprising choices, and off-the-wall picks that only he could dream up. It’s a hilarious, passionate, and totally unpredictable ride through Bobby’s pop culture brain. Buckle up—this is Yellowstone in a parallel universe.

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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Welcome to another episode of the Official Yellowstone Podcast. I'm
your host, Bobby Bones, and everything is being remade, rebooted, prequeled, sequeled,
And so I thought two things. One, if they were
to reboot Yellowstone as we know it now, they're already

(00:29):
prequeling it with some great series mad But if they
were to reboot it, or if this weren't alternative timeline
and we had to recast Yellowstone like the show had
never existed and we're back to whatever year it was.
Whenever they're deciding, you know, I think we should go
after Kevin Costner. I have recast Yellowstone top ten in

(00:51):
some cases top five recasts, depending on the significance of
the character. And you can let me know or not.
You can nod to yourself if you'd like. And these
are my lists of recast if they were to recast Yellowstone.
A because hey, let's just launch it again like everything

(01:11):
else does. Or two because we're in a different timeline
and this is years ago. We'll start with John Dutton obviously,
Kevin Costner, fantastic pick. I remember when I first saw
that Yellowstone was a show. Now again, I did not
get into Yellowstone until season two much like everything else nowadays,

(01:31):
it's mostly word of mouth. It gets you to watch something.
And I had a friend that I watched all of
Yellowstone season one, and my wife was like, we should
watch Yellowstone and How I grew up. My stepdad watched
a lot of Westerns, and I was like, I'm good,
I'm good. I've had enough Westerns in my life. And
so finally midway through season two, I believe got into it,
loved it right. So I've seen every episode, loved that.

(01:54):
I got to watch season one binge and go right
to season two binge. Recently, we just did that with
The Recruit, which is a show on Netflix where season
two was out already, and it's pretty cool because you
have a lot of episodes stored up, and that's it's
always a great feeling whenever there's a new show that

(02:14):
you like and you look and there are a lot
of episodes stored up because this week to week stuff
it is not for me anymore. It was how I
grew up, but it is not for me anymore. John
Dutton recasts Here we Go at Number one. Josh Brolin,
Josh Bolin, you would know from No Country for Old
Men Outer Range, like if I were to guess his age,

(02:35):
probably mid fifties or early sixties, not sure, but gritty, rugged.
He's already proven in the Western settings, and he can
do stoic, which is important. But he can also do vulnerable,
which is also what made Kevin Costner really strong in
his role as John Dutton, because he wasn't always just hard,

(02:59):
he wasn't always just and only. I'm the lead cowboy,
so I must keep this cement presence. Number two Jeff Bridges.
I love Jeff Bridges. First of all, think guy can
play anything, deep voice, and he's in The Old Man.
If you ever seen The Old Man, that is an
awesome show. But I go Jeff Bridges, you go through

(03:19):
deep boys. He's also very believable as someone who has,
how would I describe it, carried a lifetime of burdens.
I feel like he'd be a little less sharp than
Kevin Costner, but I feel like he could also be
a lot more philosophical than Kevin Costner. At number three,
I have Kurt Russell, very much a Western legacy, a

(03:42):
lot of charisma at times, can have an energy that
seems a bit intimidating. Would probably play John Dutton a
little more wild, like gunslinger wild is what I think of,
but still in control. Those are my top three. If
I'm teering these out, those are my top three John

(04:02):
Dutton recasts. Now the others I have here, I have
five others a little more out of the box. Brian Cranston,
breaking bad, Malcolm in the Middle. I don't know there's
a role he couldn't play because the guy is complex.
I don't even know what a good actor is. Sometimes

(04:22):
I can see somebody go, man, that person's a terrible actor.
But it's I don't drink so it's hard for me
even to say wine. But I have friends that will go,
oh yeah, I can't tell the difference in an expensive
wine or a cheap wine. And I have friends that
have grown up in settings where they can go, oh,
I taste all of in this wine. That's a terrible example,
because I don't know what you taste wine. I taste

(04:43):
granola in this wine. But with actors, for the most part,
I'm the same way. Like, I don't know that Ben
Affleck's not a great actor. Tell me he's awesome. Never
seen Norman Eddin, But Brian Cranston, all that being said,
is an awesome actor, just because I've seen him be
convincible in many different areas, so yeah, he's the master

(05:06):
of that. He could show John Dutton as a guy
doing the wrong things for the right reasons, like a
ranching Walter White. I do love Brian Kranston. I almost
put him up in the top tier, but I feel
like he wasn't standard enough to what that character represents.

(05:28):
But it only represents it because Costner pulled it off
so well, right, So it's a bit unfair when I
do my casting because I'm casting it partially based on
what the current John Dutton already is. I'd put Denzel
Washington in there. No one has quiet authority like Denzel Washington.
No one has intensity and like a wisdom, and I

(05:49):
do not know how to define that. Someone has wisdom
in their characters and they are automatically believable. John Q.
Denzel Washington, where a Son needs a Heart one of
the most underrated you could go twenty five days. I'll
watch the movies Deep. I think could be awesome. Matthew McConaughey.
Now McConaughey did exist in other layers of this, but

(06:11):
we're talking about casting Ford originally Cowboy credentials check. His
version would be a bit more spiritual. I can't do
an impression, but he'd give John Dutton a slightly more
southern textan vibe. Probably why didn't put him in Tier one?

(06:31):
I think Idris Elba. Think about Idris Elba that blows
my mind is the fact that he has a British accent.
Now he wouldn't play the character British, but Eadris Elba
a plus like Idris Elba is in the top list
of cool actors. Ever, doesn't matter what he's doing, why
he's doing it. That is just cool. But also like strong,

(06:52):
like physically strong, like a character like John Dutton's would
need to be. And then this was my way way
way out of the box one, mostly because I was
just on a flight when I did a lot of this.
I was on a flight and so I'm flipping through
movies and I saw the Drummer movie. It'd be nice.
I can remember the name of the movie too. I
remember the name of No Movies and No Songs. JK. Simmons.

(07:13):
I know him from the insurance commercial. Gritty old dude.
He's old dude. He's intense, but that dude's like explosive,
he takes no prisoners. It seems so that would be
my John Dutton recast. These are my Beth Dutton recasts.

(07:52):
The wild thing about Beth's kind of the wild thing
about Idris Elba, I guess just Idris in the first
one is that she's not American, and whenever she talks,
she's not talking. It's Beth Dutton. I don't know who
that is, but my Beth Dutton recasts are number one,
and I have four tier ones. Charlie'sta on I think

(08:16):
ten years ago she probably would have been too young
to do it. I'm not even sure how old she
is now, but she's one elegant like Beth is, and
can be at times about ferocious and can go full chaos.
Margot Robbie a lot of energy. She would definitely be
a more youth foolish version and I might maybe just

(08:39):
be thinking of rolls with her. And I think Margot
Robbie would be an interesting pick because I think she
could play very manipulative as much or more so Beth Dutton.
Emily Blunt also not American. I think she can be intense.
I think she can be intimidating. I've seen her in
movies where she has to be like a cop. I
think Sacario is one of those, or like a border agent,

(09:02):
but very emotionally layered. I think that she would play
Beth as a little less unhinged, so a little less
of I'm gonna burn every freaking thing down, but a
little more of let me strategize this exactly how I
would like to strategize it, and then watch it burn
in the proper way of it, burning layer by layer,

(09:24):
just as I had planned for the Box three casts.
Aubrey Plaza, massive fan, unpredictable. She's extremely deadpan. Obviously, I
feel like the dead penness, if that's a word of
Aubrey Plaza, would make that Beth unhinged nests so uncomfortable

(09:45):
that that might be really cool. Might be again, this
is an out of the box casting that might be cool.
Florence Pugh, a little young, could bring new emotional layers
to Beth, especially in the family scenes. I like her.
She just might be a little young for the role,
but I thought she could be a cool Beth Dutton.

(10:06):
I'm gonna hit you with the one that's unconventional and
one that I think will be awesome. Raise yourselves, hold
your chair, take five seconds, and guess who I'm going
to say, Because it's going to be so unconventional that
you're gonna go, You're gonna hear to probably go no way.
You're gonna go no way. But I think if you
just let your mind accept the fact that I am

(10:27):
occasionally sometimes almost some whatever, it's Lady Gaga, regardless of
her music, her meat dresses, her stage performance is she
can freaking act again, not conventionally. What we know now
is Beth Dutton. But we wouldn't know what Beth Dutton
was conventionally because it would be in the other timeline. Well,

(10:51):
I guess if we were recasting it, it wouldn't be
the other timeline. Lady Gaga would be awesome because she
would be freaking fee Zoe Kravitz, Zoe's cool aloof I
think her version of Beth would be a bit more modern.

(11:11):
But I like Zoe Kravitz and then Sarah Snook because
Sarah Snook was awesome in succession. I did read an
article a couple of days ago where I think Sarah
Snook is taking on a roll in Broadway and she's
doing what Taylor Swift said, she did before she went
on towards her training regimen, which is no caffeine, and

(11:33):
then do all of her lines on a treadmill because
the Broadway there's a lot of running around, dancing around,
walking around while a sudden you walking next thing, you know,
like I'm just singing in I forget what exactly it was.
But I think Sarah Snook would have been an awesome Beth.
I'm convincing myself to put her in tier one, but
she's already played the manipulave if needed. Also a very likable, twisted,

(11:56):
super intelligent daughter. I think she could take that and
darker with the best. I think I'm putting Sarah snuck
In in my top. So there's four and four. Yeah,
I gotta put Sara Snuck in that one. If they
make a graphic for this, I hope they did. They
go and they may not make a graphic, I don't.
I hope they go conventional recasts in a different timeline,

(12:20):
unconventional per Bobby Bones, Rip Wheeler. Everybody loves Rip first
of all. I'm going with I may say his name wrong,
but I just know from the Punisher, the John Burnhal
I love that dude. Intense muscular, ripped, brooding like tough
guy but also can do emotions. Might be my favorite.

(12:42):
Scott Eastwood would be good. Has the look, has the legacy,
might be a little too clean, but it's really not
the heart to dirty somebody up. Taylor Kish Friday Night Lights,
Waco played Branch Davidian. I'm trying to think of Waco
Wayco was the one where I'm getting all my shows

(13:03):
mixed up at this point, but yeah, he was David
Koresh and Waco and he was really good in it.
I like tail A Kish for it. Jason Momoa, I
think would be interesting as Rip Wheeler because and then
you're gonna have to hide a lot of the tattoos.
But there's nobody more physically imposing. And also Jason Momoa
can do the love and the violence almost at the

(13:23):
same time, like big mountain man with a big heart.
Like I think Jason Momoa would be a really great
Rip That is a monster. My out of the box
recasts in this one. I probably could have put like
ten people in the box for this one, because remember
Rip was a guy that was a kid that was
just found. Where whomever you cast is John, there's gonna

(13:45):
have to physically be some semblance with Beth and with
Casey because those are his biological children. Right now, you
can rewrite the storyline for sure, and they could be
adopted or half or with ripped. There are no rules
because Rip just kiddie saved Adam Driver. Adam Driver is

(14:07):
a little awkward looking that comes from another slightly awkward
looking guy. But Scary can play Rip as emotionally repressed
but like a volcano, and like that. He was like
literally in the military too. Jake Jillen Hall, who could
do any role like this, Jillen Hall would be awesome,
vulnerable and soulful. It would just be tough. The reason
Jake Jillen Hall would be tough in this role is

(14:28):
because he is Jake Jillen Hall. And it would be
hard to see Jake Jillen Hall in a secondary ish
role when he's Jake Jillen Hall. But I think if
he said this is his buddy Mike Jillen Hall or
his brother Mike Jillen Hall, but it's really Jake, we
may accept it a little more because he can do
it all and he gets extremely ripped up for like

(14:50):
his fighting movies. We need a roadhouse because he did
Roadhouse and then he did that Apple TV series when
he was a lawyer and he was so ripped up
in that Lawyer series because of Roadhouse that he had
been training for. There was like, this lawyer is a
little too ripped up. But yeah, dude is ripped. How
about Shilah buff Okay, I hear you, I hear you.
Go Lady Gaga and Shila buff Well. I wouldn't cast

(15:12):
those two at the same time, to be fair, but
like Shila Abuff, great actor, chaotic in real life and
on screen, can do both of those. If you want
to rip that is unhinged at times with moments of
real tenderness. I think Shilah buff would be awesome. All Right,

(15:50):
so far we've sent John Dutton, Beth Dutton and rip.
Let's do Casey. Glenn Powell would be an awesome Casey.
Don't lie, don't lie to your elf. Glenn pal will
be an awesome Casey. Good looking dude, has the charm.
Put a little gruff on him. He'd be smooth, but
not too smooth. Glen Palell can pretty much do anything
right now rock and roll. That would be the one.

(16:11):
But then I go, what about Austin Butler. Good looking dude,
can play intense, can play magnetic like, can be super intense,
but also it can make you really like him when
he needs it, has a lot of range. Can I
go Liam Hemsworth here? Can I go Liam Himsworth here?
Maybe he lacks the depth, but I say maybe because

(16:31):
what do I know? Maybe the roles that he's just
taking have it and needed a lot of depth. So
he hasn't been But can I say Liam Himsworth? I
mean super safe choice if you want to play it straight,
and you know, if he took a shirt off, goes like, oh,
I mean even I would I mean JK Simmons and
drums with Miles Teller and he's probably like, why are

(16:53):
you texting me instead of googling it? And that is
a great point. Whiplash, Thank you very much. Joe Kerey
wild Card, a lot of heart, a lot of curiosity.
It would skew younger, a bit more introspective. I think
if you don't know who Joe Kirey is, he's Stranger Things.
He is he played Steve and Stranger Things, so it

(17:16):
wasn't one of the young kids. You know, Yes, if
I say that Steven stranger things. You would know who
that is. I think he'd be a pretty solid Casey
at this point, I think he's gotten old enough. I'll
give you another one. Lakeith Stanfield. He was in Atlanta.
I think he'd be good. I think Jeremy Allen White
would be interesting. Jeremy Allen White chef hey chef cooked
a chef French on the Barbie, Chef French Fry, chef

(17:39):
Hamburger chef. Saw him at California once. I forget the
name of the really expensive place you go to get food.
It's like a really expensive Whole Foods. But we were
there and he was there, and I went up to
him and I said, you'd be greatest Casey. Actually I
didn't because I was about a year and a half ago.
I wasn't even doing this podcast yet. They hadn't even
asked me to do this podcast yet. But I think
he'd be pretty good. And if I'm going to do
one more out of the bot, I think I'm gonna go.

(18:02):
And I think his name is Nicholas Holt h o
U l T British kid. You've probably seen him in
some I'm trying to think what you would know him.
He was in about a boy who was in X
Men first Class mad Max Fury Road. Okay, how about
Jury number two? Did you watch that? That was awesome,

(18:25):
out of nowhere, awesome but awesome. I'm gonna give you
one more with Jamie, which, by the way, I think
Jamie really got a raw deal. Listen. I know Jamie
was up to no good. I know Jamie did some
bad stuff, but Jamie was placed in a world of bad.
It's hard to put somebody in a world of bad
and expect him to do good, and he did some good.
I feel like Jamie. I will say no more. You're

(18:45):
gonna find me be a Jamie apologist a lot of times.
Justice for Jamie Dutton's what I say. Okay, James Marsden,
who I'm going to tell you right now? No idea
how this dude's in the fifties, loved James Martin Marsden
and Jerry Duty. Did you ever watch Do you watch
the show? I think it's called Jerry Duty all right,
where they trick the one person into thinking they're on

(19:06):
a jury and everybody else is an actor and James
Marsden plays himself. James Marsden plays quote James Marson, who
can't believe he's on Jerry duty because he's famous. And
not only that, James Marsden is in the show now
called Paradise that's on Hulu that is now. I think
it's over. It's a four and a half or five
out of five show. I think it's over. I'm pretty

(19:29):
sure the last one happened, but I've been on a
trip overseas for a week. In my brain is mushy mush.
But I think James Marsden would be an excellent Jamie.
I think Jesse Eisenberg would have been a good Jamie.
Not gonna spend a lot of time with Jamie here.
These are just all my straight I don't have any
super out of the box ones. I guess I think
Alexander scars Guard would be good because he would play cold, attached, dangerous.

(19:52):
It's funny as I'm going through all my people, a
lot of them are European. Do they just win? Now?
Are they just winning at every thing when it comes
to create Because even the shows that we've been watching recently,
a lot of them have really wonderful European actors that
are playing American roles, or they're just shows like. We
watched a couple of shows. One was from like Sweden.

(20:14):
I don't want to watch shows where I have to
read what they're saying at the bottom of the screen,
but they're so good that I do. But Scars Got
would be good. I'm gonna say Army Hammer as well.
I don't know he will try to eat the cast.
I'm not sure what happened. Controversial dude, don't think i'd
be friends with them. I say controversial because I don't
know if he really did stuff. I don't know. I'm allegedly, hey,

(20:36):
allegedly controversial. I'll do both, possibly allegedly controversial. But before
he got in trouble, he was like the Golden Boy
with darkness, and I think you could have nailed that
with Jamie Dutton. Matt Boehmer does how you say his name?
Matt Boehmer? I wrote it down as I was going
through and I like Matt Boehmer. He's really good looking, meaning, oh,

(20:58):
here's a soap opera guy. Back in the day. He
was in Glee, he was in Magic Mike. It was
in a lot of stuff, white collar, probably no white collar.
That show from back in the day, The Sinner. I
like Matt Bohmer didn't realize I think that's his name. Okay,
I'm gonna give you one out of the box here
on Jamie Rammy Mallet. And the reason that's out of

(21:20):
the box is because what works for him so well
is he's always kind of odd. He's an odd look.
Take it from another odd looking guy. I thought, like,
when I said that, I need to say, yeah, I
also know I'm no beauty model. It's kind of odd.
Look was great in the Queen Movie, like Freddie Mercury.
He crushed that mister Robot. I don't know if you

(21:40):
guys watched that back in the day A plus, but
I think I'm worried about saying Matt Bohmer's name, and
I'm not even sure if I'm saying Ramy Mallock's name right. Yeah.
I think he'd be odd. I think he'd be a
really internal character, meaning you're always really wondering what he's thinking.
He seems like he's quietly dangerous. I mean it could

(22:01):
be an isolated Jamie. I think you'd be an emotionally
emotionally fractured Jamie. Whatever those terms are people use for actors.
So that's my one out of the box on Jamie
the rest of those straight out. Yeah, but that's it.
You know what. I want to say this as I
don't want to say it as a reboot. I know
I'm at the end of this now and ear later
on I was like a rebooter. I'm just gonna say

(22:22):
a different timeline or ten years ago. Ten years ago,
this whole sag is starting, and the people they absolutely
cannot get are the ones that ended up being in Yellowstone.
Who would you try to cast? I think that would
be the list of who I will be trying to cast.
But then ten years ago they wouldn't have this success. Okay, stop,

(22:42):
Now I weren't a broken time machine and I've confused myself.
Thank you guys for listening to the podcast. I hope
you're enjoying doing it as much as I am. The
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(23:04):
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(23:24):
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