November 22, 2024 • 35 mins
Comedian Rachel Samples joins the show for this week’s Poppin’ Off. Rachel, Danielle and Simone talk about their excitement for “Wicked Day” and Diane Keaton’s new Holiday song. Plus, they get into Issa Rae’s recent hot take on whether or not men can hold a decent conversation– featuring a fun weigh in from The Bright Side’s own, Tim Palazzola.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey Bessies, Hello Sunshine. Today on the bright Side, we're
popping off on the biggest pop culture moments of the
week with comedian, content creator and everyone's favorite clueless dad,
Rachel Samples. Diane Keaton is dropping a holiday song, plus
Isray is sharing a hot take on men's conversation skills.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It's Friday, November twenty second. I'm Simone Boyce, I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Danielle Robe and this is the bright Side from Hello Sunshine,
a daily show where we come together to share women's stories,
to laugh, learn and brighten your day. It's been such
a good week here on the bright Side, I would
dare to say it's been pretty bright Simon.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
What do you think? Oh yeah, one of the brightest.
I had a bright spot in my week.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I went to the Sabrina Carpenter concert, and I just
really love a pop star. Sabrina Carpenter kind of spans
generations of girls, like Girlhood was out on.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Monday night, which was really fun.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
But there were fifty year old women there dressed in
lingerie and nighties like Sabrina Carpenter themed, and there were
ten year olds. And I was sitting next to a
ten year old and I had a rare glass of
wine with ice, I know, of course, and it was
in my cup holder because you know, I sip slowly.
I'm not really drinking that much of it. And all
(01:22):
of a sudden I go down to grab it and
the ten year old had stuck her water bottle in
my wine. And I turned her and I started giggling,
and she goes, oh, I thought it was ice, And
I was like, you think we all have ice at
our like.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Your parents are rich.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
You think we all have ice just sitting around at
all of our sort of like chair destinations.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It was so silly.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
This is actually one of my favorite Danielle stories because
this is a real rude awakening for you with ice
in your wine. Like you, if you didn't have the
ice in your wine, she wouldn't have put it in there.
You're right, Oh my god, it's a sign from the
universe to turn back.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I'm not gonna do it with a drop of sunshine.
It's too good. I don't have to put ice in it.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Thank you. This is progress. This is actually a very
big deal for us today.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Okay, well, I guess it's time to get into the show.
We've had such a good week I love it when
we get to talk to members of the Hello Sunshine family.
This week we caught up with Cleia Scherer and Joanna
Teplin of the Home Edit. It's so fun when we
talk to them because it's the two of them and
they really pop off and the two of us and
it just feels like girl talk. But they really brought
(02:34):
the tough love when it comes to the number of
decorations that we are allowed to keep in the house
for the holidays. So if you miss that episode, you're
only allowed to hold onto decorations if they have a
specific place, if.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
You can store them, not one decoration more.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
They really are the queens of tough love when it
comes to organization. Every time I wrap an interview with them,
I'm like, well, okay, got to tighten up around here. Yes,
kind of make Clia and Joanna proud one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
That was such a great conversation.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I also am still thinking about our talk with Susie Moore.
You know, we had this whole conversation about how to
approach networking during the holidays because Susie really views it
as a chance to reconnect with old colleagues. With all
this you know, kind of downtime and slower pace that
we're all moving through right now. Per her recommendation, I
am going to be putting together my list of thirty
(03:25):
people to reach out to.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I also loved our conversation about boundaries with Nedra Tauwab.
I would never really have thought of boundaries as a
form of self care, but it really is. And I
think her advice about setting boundaries around the holidays was
especially impactful because we're constantly wanting to do everything for
everybody else, but we matter too, So I loved her
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suggestion of using phrases like I want, I need, even
I expect, which that.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
One's hard for me.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I don't know if I'm able to say I expect,
but I'm able to say I'm wanting or needing.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
It's such a good reminder. I'm reading this book right
now and one of the quotes is the most radical
thing a woman can do is want. So I love
this idea of like normalizing our wants. This is actually
one of the conversations that my mom messaged me about.
She sent me a text the other day and was like,
I'm catching up on all your shows and I really
love the boundaries one. So I actually gave her Nedra's book,
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so I'm happy for her that that really resonated with her.
And then, speaking of self care, we loved having Libby
Ward in studio with us. She shared amazing insights on
prioritizing ourselves around the holidays. You guys know, I had
a stressful, traumatic holiday last year if you've been following along,
But I am vowing to change things this year, and
(04:43):
Libby was a part of that. All right, I'm so
excited to pop off with our guest today. I have
been a huge fan of Rachel Samples ever since I
came across this video that she posted and it was
entitled Sounds only Millennials Can Hear and and if you've
seen it, you know what I'm talking about. But it
was just so resonant for the stage of life that
(05:05):
I'm in. It was kind of like a retrospective looking
at all the songs from like the Bangers from the
twenty tens era that we were all, you know, dancing
to in the club. She just has this really great
way of creating relatable comedy that like so many people
can identify with.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
So I'm excited to meet her today. I can't wait
to meet her too. She sounds hilarious. But before we
pop off, it's time to spotlight our favorite moment of
the week. Award season kicks off in a few weeks
with the Golden Globes. Every year, award season comes and
I can't believe it's here again. But earlier this week,
it was announced that Viola Davis would be honored with
the Cecil B. DeMille Award at this year's ceremony, which
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is really special if you're unfamiliar with the awards. It
was named for the legendary filmmaker and founder of the
motion picture industry, Cecil B. Demel, and it is the
highest honor an actor can receive at the Globes. Now,
Viola is no stranger to recognition. She's an egot, ok.
She has an Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, and Tony for her
roles in films like Fences, The Help, How to Get
(06:05):
Away with Murder and recently The Woman King.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Sixty nine actors have previously accepted the award and are
all considered some of Hollywood's greatest talents. She's joining past
winners like Oprah Winfrey, Denzel Washington, Barbara Streisan, Tom Hanks,
and Jane Fonda.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Ugh, I really love Viola Davis as not just an actor,
but as a human being.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I watch all of her interviews. I loved her memoir.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I'm I think we're both just sending her a huge
congratulations from the bright Side.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
All right, Danielle, we ready to pop off.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Let's do it, all right, Rachel Samples, Welcome to the
bright Side.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Thank you so much. Hi Danielle, Hi Simone. Hey, We're
so happy.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
You so happy to have you. Rachel. I'm such a fangirl.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I'm so happy you're here because I've been wanting to
talk to you about all your hilarious videos that I.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Watch on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
You've become known for doing impressions and bits on your
socials that are just like so human and relatable. You
have a couple of scenes with I think a couple
of your girlfriends where you're, you know, showing the POV
of women getting ready and trying to get out of
the house, and I love it so much. I think
the first video that I saw of yours, though, was
the Sounds. Only millennials recognized what happened after that for you.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Oh God, so I feel like when I was a
newcomer to TikTok, Like many people during the pandemic, I
was like, what am I doing here? The youth are
dancing on this platform? What do I do with music?
And I was just sort of leaning into the nostalgia
of just early two thousands music and things like that.
And U said, as a little nugget to inspire sounds
(07:48):
only millennials can hear from, like disclosure, a little levicy
things like that. But it really developed into this really
like hyper relatable, shareable series and sort of got my
momentum going on TikTok to be like, oh, should I
like really start making stuff consistently here? What else can
I do here? And just like sort of like ignited
(08:09):
the play on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
We also have to talk about the dad at Costco
or Dad at home Depot or Dad at Target. Yes,
people love your dad characters. What was the origin of
this character? Was this partially inspired by your own pops?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, my dad definitely inspired some of that character.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
He's a sensitive guy, but not the overly macho side
that this character sort of brings to life. But yeah,
it sort of organically happened because I get called the dad.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Of my friend group.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
I feel like it's very common for people to be
called the like the mom of the friend group who
has like tissues and like batteries and like anything else
you could need in her purse. But like I've always
identified with the data the friend group. I'll take people
to the airport, let's figure out how luggage gets in
the back of the car, that kind of stuff. So really,
I'm playing a little bit of myself a little but
(09:00):
my dad, And it's really fun to play with my
creative partner, Aliki. She's my quote unquote wife in that series,
and we've been friends since third grade and we really
can like kind of get a good vibe like comedically
and creatively with each other.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
So yeah, it's really fun.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
She's definitely playing her mom and I'm playing sort of
like pseudo my dad, and it's fun to just see
that unfold.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Okay, we're gonna stop talking mothers, start talking Wicked. Because
Wicked opens in theaters this weekend. I feel like my feed,
my Instagram feed has been replaced with Wicked hype and
videos of fans in full costume going to see this
show with their friends.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Rachel, I've heard you're pretty hyped. I am hyped. I
really am.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I feel like I'm on a scale you know when
you ask someone are they a SWIFTYE?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Right?
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah, And I'm like, on a swifty scale, I'm probably
like a like a solid five six. I don't know
the most recent album that well whatever. But in terms
of like musical theater, like I'm dialed up for Wicked,
I'm dialed up for Rent.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I know, like the big core ones.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
I don't know Newsies, but I'm all in on like Wicked,
et cetera, Hamilton, that kind of crew for those who
are sort of like on the Wicked light scale. I
do know the runtime of this is like almost three hours.
This is our this is our our musical theater, Dune,
this is our musical theater.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Lord of the rinks, Like we are buckling in. We
are not going to the bathroom. Figure it out. You're
locked in, get your stipers, do it. You need to
do TYPEE.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Tissues like be ready. I think it's gonna be great.
A friend of mine, he is doing a birthday party
to go see Wicked. There's probably about thirty forty people.
We're all go like sitting together. There's no guarantee if
we're going to be screaming, singing out loud the entire time.
Sorry to the rest of the theater. It's for his birthday. Like,
(10:55):
I'll blame it on the birthday.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
You could blame it on whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I saw that you dressed up full green face, which costume,
so I would say, you've dialed it up two and eleven.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, I have dialed it up.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I feel like I also in person, like I'll feed
off the energy like other people who know every single
word to every single song. I will be locked in
for defining gravity. I feel like, out a respect for Cynthia,
we should not be singing, you know what I mean,
Let her quite literally pop off. Let her pop off.
But I feel like for the rest of the film,
I definitely want to do at least two times. I
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want to see it sort of absorb it this first time,
and then do sort of like a standing ovation pass
the second time.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Vox came out with this article that highlighted how many
times this story has been reimagined, which I actually didn't know.
So I want to run some fun facts by you,
Rachel and sort of test your wicked knowledge.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Let me know if you know these. Okay, but Espresso
here we go.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, okay, the Wicked team planted nine million tulips to
be a part of munchkin Land.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Whoa nine million?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
That's nine million. I think they did something similar for Signs.
You remember that they plant or maybe it was Interstellar
Christopher Nolan planted like an entire corn field. That's always
so impressive to me when films go to those links.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Both Nick Jonas and Joe Jonas auditioned to be Fierro
before the role went to Jonathan Bailey and Amanda Seifried.
Renee Rap and Dove Cameron all auditioned for the role
of Glenda.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I did not know the Renee Rap of it all.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I feel like people were like, you already had your
sort of like Me and Girls musical moment. And I
feel like, if you've seen any of the Cynthia Arianna interviews,
they are committed to the craft.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
They're committed to each other, you know, big time. I
just saw this funny, like this creator posted a video
as actually two creators where they're doing an impression of
Arianna and Cynthia in their press interviews, and the whole time,
like one of them is sitting on the other like
sitting on their lap. They're just like inseparable. I love
(13:04):
I love the friendship between them. They're crying, the hugging.
Oh my hand holding, so much emotion. Yes, yes, How.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Long do you think it took Cynthia to put the
green paint on? Every day? Oh? Five hours?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Ooh? Spoken like a true theater kid. You kind of know.
They said it was four hours to get on, in
forty five to get off. That kind of blew my mind.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Wow. You have to wonder.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
It's like, is it just hands right in a hands face,
maybe a little ankle like that, or is it full body?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Full body would be wild? That would hinge. It feels
un chine and necessary foot fail. I don't know. Maybe
it's part of the process. You never know. Maybe it's
a method thing. Oh, it could be method. Yeah. Are
you happy with the cast?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I know it's hard when once you see something come
out to imagine other people as part of it. But
would you make any changes if you were directing?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I'm actually really psyched with this cast.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
I feel like it would be too muddled if it
felt like you know, a Dina Menzel or Chris and
Chenna with two point zero, like, let's do something brand new, reimagined.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
But like honor those who really sort of brought it
to the world, well said.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I was reading in that same article that Stephen Daldry,
who directed The Crown, was initially attached to Wicked, and
he pitched Lady Gaga and Shawn Mendes as alpha bon Fierra.
What I could kind of see it. I don't hate those,
I don't know, seem like you don't like it.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Weird to me. It's the Shawn Mendes that I'm a
little confused.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
John A, Lady Gaga could literally do anything anything, but
I'm like Sean, really, I also just like deeply love
how much Ariana Grande really just like loves and cherishes
musical theater. Yeah, and Cynthia's we course, but like for
her to really take a step back from like the
pop life and commit to this for two years is
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really impressive.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I think there's something to be said, Rachel about what
you just said in that, you know, if you're a comedian,
the comedians of our generation, I think we're able to
study the greats, And if you're a musical theater buff
people were able to study the greats, and I think
there's this idea, and I'm not sure that it's true,
(15:31):
but the idea is that gen Z hasn't really studied
film history or comedy history or like the greats of
each sort of category. And I think seeing young people
like Ariana Grande embrace musical theater and sort of the
technicality and like the purity of its history feels really exciting.
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It's like, Okay, it's going to live on m Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
That also feels like someone from the community is doing
this for the community, you know, and there's like something
that's really rewarding and satisfying about that, because musical theater
is a community. Like you are vieweded theater as a kid,
you know, you are initiated into.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
That club for life. Yeah, it's gonna beautiful. It really
is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
We're gonna take a quick break from popping off, but
we'll be right back and we're back to popping off
with Rachel Samples. I am equally obsessed with the person
that this next story is about. So Diane Keaton announced
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that she's actually releasing a holiday song. All we know though,
is that it's called First Christmas, and her announcement you
guys on Instagram is peak Diane. She's in her signature
black turtleneck, the baggy pants. It's giving artsy, it's giving
avant garde, it's giving chic. I'm a huge if you
can already tell. I mean, she's our movie mom, right,
(17:03):
like she kind of practically raised us. But I'm really
curious about this. It's kind of giving jazzy Christmas. Yeah.
What do you guys think about Diane Keaton stepping into
the music space.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
We are Nancy Meyer's household over here, like, and my
girlfriend Allie is spiritually Diane Keaton. Like we've kicked it
around as like potentially a theme for our birthday party.
So everyone comes obviously like a neutral turtleneck is constantly
spilling things, and it's like, like, that's so Diane Keaton energy.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
So we are psyched. We are so psyched.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I feel like she has given us nuggets of singing
in a few of her movies.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
So I think it's gonna be beautiful. I think it's what
the world needs. It really is. You're right, I think
we really need this now more than ever, So thank
you DK.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
I also think, just like recently the Martha Stewart dot
come out on Netflex, now DeKay doing her thing. I'm like,
these are the great Danielle to your point earlier, like
let them play.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Let them do the thing.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, And I like the notion that we're all embracing
women that are a little bit more mature doing new
things and we're excited about it. I sort of am
imagining the cover art of this with like Diane sitting
in a perfectly mismatched chair with a Santa hat like
tilted slightly off. Everything's like works, but it's a little
(18:30):
weird and kooky and mismatch and plaid, but still matches perfectly. Yeah,
I'm excited about this. I think, you know, anything she
does I love. I don't think I've ever disliked anything
Diane Kayton did.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
No, here's the funny thing, Danielle, So she actually posted
the cover art. There's no Santa hat in site, there
are no jingle bells in sight, no Holly. It's very
simple and streamlined, and it just has like red white
and then everything else is black and white. It's so
I just love that it's so her, Like this is
very much Diane, you know, like she her whole house
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is black and white, and it's just it feels very
authentic to her, So I love that for her.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Oh I can't wait drop the whole album DK.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Seriously, Rachel, are you are you extremely online with your job?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I I'd say week by week that changes. Sometimes I'm
fully in it deep deep deep, and then sometimes I'm like,
you know, you need to cool it. But I like,
I'm actively trying to like learn that those Gracie Abrams
lyrics to like do that dance trend thing.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
You know what I mean. Like I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh,
I'm in a rot week. I'm in a Internet rot week.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
What's your relationship like to the algorithm because a lot
of people whose careers are centered around social have this
like love hate relationship with the Instagram algorithm.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
M hm.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
I actually don't think about it too much in terms
of like how visible my stuff is. Yes, Like I
think what I've just seen over the years with TikTok
is TikTok wants you to.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Just feed it the exact same thing.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
So if you did a video that's a minute and
you're playing a character or whatever, they're like, great, do
that again thirty more times, and we'll keep rewarding you
for that.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Interesting for trying to be like creative and trying new things.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
You're like, well, I know I'm going to not do
that thirty times in a row, so we'll ride this
out see what else happens. I feel like there's no
rhyme or reason, but I feel like in terms of
what I watch like there definitely is sort of like
you're curating and grooming your for you page or your
algorithm to feed you the funny stuff you want to see,
the beautiful stuff you want to see, and then, of
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course if you stop on that one, like sad puppy video,
buckle up because you just signed up to have that
fill your feed for the rest of the week.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
So it's interesting you say that because Instagram announced earlier
this week that it's going to give users a new
way to customize their feeds, so you may no longer
have to see the sad puppy videos if that's not
what you're wanting.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Here's what it's doing.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Okay, And I'm not techie, so as I share these,
maybe explain them to me.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Safe space, Safe space, let's all try to work together.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
The app is rolling out of feature that allows users
to reset their recommendations, so this means that we can
clear out recommended posts that's kind of cool, like stuff
we don't want to see.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
We can clear that out.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
We can unfollow accounts we are no longer interested in.
I feel like we've always been able to do that,
but okay.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yep, it's called free will.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
And also you can flag content that you don't want
to see. Also seems like you could do that before.
So the main one is really that you can like
kind of reset your algorithm and recalibrate what is recommended
to you and fine tune what you actually want to see.
The idea really is that this will be specifically good
for teens, so they can have a safer, more positive,
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age appropriate experiences. I don't know how I feel about this,
because I think it could be a fresh start that
a lot of us have been craving online. And on
the other hand, I think this potentially just doubles down
on the echo chambers that we're all already in.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
I did see this, and I like how you put that,
because I do. I do agree with you. I didn't realize,
like you flip the coin, it's like.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Oh, that echo chamber just got a lot deeper. Yeah, interesting,
you know.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I actually, sometimes hear people say stuff that really upsets me,
like it just is so different than my point of view,
and I like will go to their profile to unfollow
them because I'm like, I don't want to see this.
And then I stop myself because I'm like, you make
yourself see it, Danielle, make yourself listen to it.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
I don't know if you have to do that to yourself, Danielle.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
If someone is if someone is like really grading on
you because of their views, like, think about how that's
impacting your mental health. You can still bring in different
viewpoints by you know, reading, looking at different articles.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Spare yourself.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Yeah, you know what I wish this this Instagram update had.
I wish it was able to go through everyone you
follow and if they have gotten married and changed their
last name and you can no longer place how you
know that person you no longer follow them.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
You know, It's funny all the time, I'm like, oh, freshman,
you're blah blah blah, no, you have no.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Stop rewards marriage and Rachel samples. This happens to me
all the time. Though.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Someone will pop up in my feet and I'm like,
who is who is this person?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
It's always the baby. It's the baby, and I'm like,
they like it's them.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Having a baby or an announcement, so it's not even
them in the photo. And I just see a child
on like a quilt that says three months and I'm like.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Whoa lose baby? Who baby? Who is this?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
It's true, it's always life's transitions that remind you that
you really don't know who this person is.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Deeply think Instagram prioritizes baby on quilt photos. Oh yeah,
I think so an engagement, those are always the two.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
It's time for another short break, but we'll be right
back with Rachel Samples. And we're back with Rachel Samples.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I want a shift to talk about something that Isa
Ray said this week. She's giving us a pretty hot take.
Curious to hear what you guys think on this. So
she was a guest on the Naked Beauty podcast with
Brooke de Vard and during the interviews, she mentioned that
she thinks men in general are bad at conversations. She said,
many men don't understand the basic skills that are required
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for having an elevated conversation, like asking follow ups, actively listening,
and you know, just kind of being intuitive and prodding
someone when it's clear that they have feelings about something.
I've got my thoughts on this, I'm going to reserve
them till the end. I want to give you all
the floor, starting with you, Rachel, what's your reaction to this?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Take god.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I mean I think of every instance where a woman
has had to find out about someone's ex girlfriend and
like the minimum amount of detail, like hey, I think
she lives in San Diego and she has brown hair,
boom she's found on Instagram. Immediately, women get it, we're digging,
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we're getting into the emotion of it, the why we
always are going to prod and get to know more.
And I don't see that very often from guys, even
guy friends. I feel like there's just like an understood
sort of like baseline of how deep we're gonna go,
and there isn't a ton.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Of follow up. Interesting.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I also feel like I'm not a big digger personally,
so I can kind of just like keep it surface level.
But I'm always fascinated by dynamics or a couple relationships
that support guys not communicating well, like, for instance, going
out to drinks with friends and the guy is allowed
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to watch football.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
On his phone or the majority of the drinks to
like a toddler that's like my toddler.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
That's an iPad kid. That's an iteration of the iPad kid.
And I'm like, how how's that? Okay, that's crazy. I
have to say, I've never seen that out in the wild.
Oh yeah, it's it's rampant.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
It's like really really yes, like it's that would be
a real deal breaker.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
It just seems so dismissive, so dismissive.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I think it's rude. It's a version of just like
texting or whatever. But I think there's there's examples like
that that just like support not having to communicate or
you know, have a conversation and things like that.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
So this is definitely a broad stroke that I'm painting.
But every man that I have dated is less interested
in the details of conversation than I am. So like,
for instance, and this is what Lisa is talking about,
I think, like I'll give an example, like a guy
I dated will come home and be like, oh, you know,
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I forgot to tell you Jake and his wife are
getting divorced, and it's and then I'm like, oh my god,
that's that's so sad.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Why? Oh, I don't know. What do you mean? You
saw Jake, you were there for three hours? You didn't
ask why he was getting divorced? What happened?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
And that?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Oh? I didn't think to ask, well is he doing okay?
Should like how about his wife? Should we text them? Like?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
What's the dynamic? What are they going to do with
their kids? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I didn't ask how do you not ask all of
the questions? And I don't know if that's me being
nosy because you know, Glennon Doyle, I heard her on
a podcast say something that I really try to practice
that in grief, there's no room for curiosity, and I
really do believe that, because you should just show up
and be and be there and support people. Like, the
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idea of being curious about someone's pain is so icky,
So I don't mean it in that way. Yeah, but
the idea of not asking follow ups of just like
a simple what happened or why? Like you know, Simon
and I went to journalism school. There's the who, what, where? When?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Why? That's just it seems very obvious to me.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yet five right there, Budd, Yeah, maybe five questions even.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Outside of like emotional related follow ups, even just being like, so,
who's keeping the dog? Like you could even just go
from a like gistical standpoint of like who's moving out?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
What are they feel like? Nothing? Yeah, I don't know.
I I just don't understand.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
So I do feel like, obviously, I think there's truth
in any generalization. I do think it's a bit of
a broad generalization. And I talked to my husband about
it last night. I was just like, hey, do you
have deep conversations with your friends? And he was like, yeah,
I have deep conversations with my friends all the time,
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Like most he was saying, like, you know, I'll have
a friend over and he'll turn on a movie. We'll
turn on a movie and sometimes we'll just get into
a conversation. We'll pause the movie for an hour and
we'll have this deep talk. Now, do I think that
my husband is like the norm? No, I think he's
probably the exception.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Will he with you? No, my straight husband's not going
to keeck you with me. I need someone who's gonna
key key with me. Do you what do you mean
by that gossip? Like like get into.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Those Yeah, yeah, cause I'm not gonna gossip in the
outer world. That's like not for me to do inside
my house. I need a man that's going to key
key with me.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I mean a little bit, but I don't know. I'm
trying to like not do it as much. What I
know is like not as fun. But I think, yes,
if if there was something that we needed to Kiki about. Absolutely,
and there's always like husband and wife confidence or like
you know, there's there's that sort of like nda within
the confines of your relationship. But anyways, I think a
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man who can have deep conversations and.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Follow up and YadA YadA.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I think that's a I think that is an exception,
but we do actually happen to have a man on
the line that we could bring into this conversation. Everybody,
please welcome our showrunner, Tim Palazzola, Tim our man.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Are men deep or no? What are your thoughts? Hello?
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Hello, listen, Simone, I think you really nail that when
you said this is a generalization, but I think Isa
and some people out there just need better friends, because
I will say a lot of my guy friends are
real nosy, and they are all up in my business.
They are all up in each other's business. And some
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of the best conversations I have are actually with some
of my male friends who are straight. My brother's a
straight guy. He and I talk all the time. We
have really intimate conversations, very emotional. I have a straight buddy,
his name is Matt. He and I talk all the time.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Because he's straight. So my buddy Matt, my homide, my
buddy Matt. Yeah, my buddy Matt.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
And I will I will, I will take my voice
down and be like, Yo, what's up, dude, how to go?
But but I what I what I will say is
I think a lot of this has to do with
I don't think men are conditioned to have these types
of conversations, like generally, I think I'm probably a little
bit of a safe space for guys to have conversations
with because I probably engage in a different capacity. But
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I don't think guys in general are taught to have
feelings with each other, and that probably bleeds into a
lot of the relationships they have with with each other
and with women in particular.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah avoidant, Yeah, well said, thank you, Tim, all right,
thanks buddy, thanks guy. All Right, that's the first time
Tim's ever done a straight man impression for us, And
I'm gonna have to bring it back all the time now,
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it was so.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
So good, Rachel.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
You actually you actually have a hack for improving your
relationships with your male friends, right, and it involves like
a certain name that you give them.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
So I do. Yeah, I've found really a ton of success.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
And this is for male coworkers, friends, even like new acquaintances.
But calling guys big dog is a way to get
instant respect.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
They'll do whatever whatever you need them to do.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
They want to be seen and felt as if they
are the big dog of the pack. It is a
little ego fan, but truly the control and the power
is in whoever calls them big dog.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I'm gonna call my husband big dog today and then
I'm gonna see big dog how it plays.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
It's wild and like there was that video like really
took off and a radio host, I think it was
somewhere in the Midwest. She had a male co host,
and she filmed like her saying big dog to him,
and you could actually see like a grin come on
his like like he got a little like little stood
a little taller and he was like, okay, yeah, I'll
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grab your coffee.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
You know. It seemed genuine to me. That's hilarious. Yeah wow, I'm.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Gonna have to try this, Rachel, this has been so
much fun. Thank you for bringing in Wicked Day with us.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Thank you, Rachel. It was so great to have you
with us. Thank you so much. This is great.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Rachel Samples is a comedian and content creator. You can
find her on social at hay Free Samples.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
That's it for today's show.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
On Monday of Thanksgiving Week, the CEO of Feeding America,
Claire Babineau Fontana, is shedding light on food insecurity in
America and what we can do to help.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Listen and follow the bright Side on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
The bright Side is a production of Hello.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Sunshine and iHeart Podcasts and is executive produced by Reese Witherspoon.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Production by Arcana Audio. Our producers are Jessica Wank, Krista Ripple,
and Amy Padula. Our senior producer is It's i Kin Tania,
and our engineer is PJ.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Shahamat.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Arcana's executive producers are Francis Harlowe and Abby Ruzka.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Arcana's head of production is Matt.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Schultz, Natalie Tulluck and Maureen Polo are the executive producers
for Hello Sunshine.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Julia Weaver is the supervising producer, and Ali Perry is
the executive producer for iHeart Podcasts. Tim Palazzola is our showrunner.
This week's episodes were recorded by Graham Gibson and Joel Morales.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Our theme song is by Anna Stump and Hamilton lighthauser.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Special thanks to Connell Byrne and Will Pearson.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
I'm Simone Boyce. You can find me at Simone boy
on Instagram and TikTok.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
And I'm Danielle Robe on Instagram and TikTok.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
That's r O B A Y.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
We'll see you Monday, y'all keep looking on the bright side.
Hey Bessies, Hello Sunshine. Today on the bright Side, we're
popping off on the biggest pop culture moments of the
week with comedian, content creator and everyone's favorite clueless dad,
Rachel Samples. Diane Keaton is dropping a holiday song, plus
Isray is sharing a hot take on men's conversation skills.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
It's Friday, November twenty second. I'm Simone Boyce, I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Danielle Robe and this is the bright Side from Hello Sunshine,
a daily show where we come together to share women's stories,
to laugh, learn and brighten your day. It's been such
a good week here on the bright Side, I would
dare to say it's been pretty bright Simon.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
What do you think? Oh yeah, one of the brightest.
I had a bright spot in my week.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I went to the Sabrina Carpenter concert, and I just
really love a pop star. Sabrina Carpenter kind of spans
generations of girls, like Girlhood was out on.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Monday night, which was really fun.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
But there were fifty year old women there dressed in
lingerie and nighties like Sabrina Carpenter themed, and there were
ten year olds. And I was sitting next to a
ten year old and I had a rare glass of
wine with ice, I know, of course, and it was
in my cup holder because you know, I sip slowly.
I'm not really drinking that much of it. And all
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of a sudden I go down to grab it and
the ten year old had stuck her water bottle in
my wine. And I turned her and I started giggling,
and she goes, oh, I thought it was ice, And
I was like, you think we all have ice at
our like.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Your parents are rich.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
You think we all have ice just sitting around at
all of our sort of like chair destinations.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It was so silly.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
This is actually one of my favorite Danielle stories because
this is a real rude awakening for you with ice
in your wine. Like you, if you didn't have the
ice in your wine, she wouldn't have put it in there.
You're right, Oh my god, it's a sign from the
universe to turn back.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I'm not gonna do it with a drop of sunshine.
It's too good. I don't have to put ice in it.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Thank you. This is progress. This is actually a very
big deal for us today.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Okay, well, I guess it's time to get into the show.
We've had such a good week I love it when
we get to talk to members of the Hello Sunshine family.
This week we caught up with Cleia Scherer and Joanna
Teplin of the Home Edit. It's so fun when we
talk to them because it's the two of them and
they really pop off and the two of us and
it just feels like girl talk. But they really brought
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the tough love when it comes to the number of
decorations that we are allowed to keep in the house
for the holidays. So if you miss that episode, you're
only allowed to hold onto decorations if they have a
specific place, if.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
You can store them, not one decoration more.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
They really are the queens of tough love when it
comes to organization. Every time I wrap an interview with them,
I'm like, well, okay, got to tighten up around here. Yes,
kind of make Clia and Joanna proud one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
That was such a great conversation.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I also am still thinking about our talk with Susie Moore.
You know, we had this whole conversation about how to
approach networking during the holidays because Susie really views it
as a chance to reconnect with old colleagues. With all
this you know, kind of downtime and slower pace that
we're all moving through right now. Per her recommendation, I
am going to be putting together my list of thirty
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people to reach out to.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I also loved our conversation about boundaries with Nedra Tauwab.
I would never really have thought of boundaries as a
form of self care, but it really is. And I
think her advice about setting boundaries around the holidays was
especially impactful because we're constantly wanting to do everything for
everybody else, but we matter too, So I loved her
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suggestion of using phrases like I want, I need, even
I expect, which that.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
One's hard for me.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
I don't know if I'm able to say I expect,
but I'm able to say I'm wanting or needing.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
It's such a good reminder. I'm reading this book right
now and one of the quotes is the most radical
thing a woman can do is want. So I love
this idea of like normalizing our wants. This is actually
one of the conversations that my mom messaged me about.
She sent me a text the other day and was like,
I'm catching up on all your shows and I really
love the boundaries one. So I actually gave her Nedra's book,
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so I'm happy for her that that really resonated with her.
And then, speaking of self care, we loved having Libby
Ward in studio with us. She shared amazing insights on
prioritizing ourselves around the holidays. You guys know, I had
a stressful, traumatic holiday last year if you've been following along,
But I am vowing to change things this year, and
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Libby was a part of that. All right, I'm so
excited to pop off with our guest today. I have
been a huge fan of Rachel Samples ever since I
came across this video that she posted and it was
entitled Sounds only Millennials Can Hear and and if you've
seen it, you know what I'm talking about. But it
was just so resonant for the stage of life that
(05:05):
I'm in. It was kind of like a retrospective looking
at all the songs from like the Bangers from the
twenty tens era that we were all, you know, dancing
to in the club. She just has this really great
way of creating relatable comedy that like so many people
can identify with.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
So I'm excited to meet her today. I can't wait
to meet her too. She sounds hilarious. But before we
pop off, it's time to spotlight our favorite moment of
the week. Award season kicks off in a few weeks
with the Golden Globes. Every year, award season comes and
I can't believe it's here again. But earlier this week,
it was announced that Viola Davis would be honored with
the Cecil B. DeMille Award at this year's ceremony, which
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is really special if you're unfamiliar with the awards. It
was named for the legendary filmmaker and founder of the
motion picture industry, Cecil B. Demel, and it is the
highest honor an actor can receive at the Globes. Now,
Viola is no stranger to recognition. She's an egot, ok.
She has an Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, and Tony for her
roles in films like Fences, The Help, How to Get
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Away with Murder and recently The Woman King.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Sixty nine actors have previously accepted the award and are
all considered some of Hollywood's greatest talents. She's joining past
winners like Oprah Winfrey, Denzel Washington, Barbara Streisan, Tom Hanks,
and Jane Fonda.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
Ugh, I really love Viola Davis as not just an actor,
but as a human being.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I watch all of her interviews. I loved her memoir.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I'm I think we're both just sending her a huge
congratulations from the bright Side.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
All right, Danielle, we ready to pop off.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Let's do it, all right, Rachel Samples, Welcome to the
bright Side.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Thank you so much. Hi Danielle, Hi Simone. Hey, We're
so happy.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
You so happy to have you. Rachel. I'm such a fangirl.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I'm so happy you're here because I've been wanting to
talk to you about all your hilarious videos that I.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Watch on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
You've become known for doing impressions and bits on your
socials that are just like so human and relatable. You
have a couple of scenes with I think a couple
of your girlfriends where you're, you know, showing the POV
of women getting ready and trying to get out of
the house, and I love it so much. I think
the first video that I saw of yours, though, was
the Sounds. Only millennials recognized what happened after that for you.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Oh God, so I feel like when I was a
newcomer to TikTok, Like many people during the pandemic, I
was like, what am I doing here? The youth are
dancing on this platform? What do I do with music?
And I was just sort of leaning into the nostalgia
of just early two thousands music and things like that.
And U said, as a little nugget to inspire sounds
(07:48):
only millennials can hear from, like disclosure, a little levicy
things like that. But it really developed into this really
like hyper relatable, shareable series and sort of got my
momentum going on TikTok to be like, oh, should I
like really start making stuff consistently here? What else can
I do here? And just like sort of like ignited
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the play on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
We also have to talk about the dad at Costco
or Dad at home Depot or Dad at Target. Yes,
people love your dad characters. What was the origin of
this character? Was this partially inspired by your own pops?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, my dad definitely inspired some of that character.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
He's a sensitive guy, but not the overly macho side
that this character sort of brings to life. But yeah,
it sort of organically happened because I get called the dad.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Of my friend group.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
I feel like it's very common for people to be
called the like the mom of the friend group who
has like tissues and like batteries and like anything else
you could need in her purse. But like I've always
identified with the data the friend group. I'll take people
to the airport, let's figure out how luggage gets in
the back of the car, that kind of stuff. So really,
I'm playing a little bit of myself a little but
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my dad, And it's really fun to play with my
creative partner, Aliki. She's my quote unquote wife in that series,
and we've been friends since third grade and we really
can like kind of get a good vibe like comedically
and creatively with each other.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
So yeah, it's really fun.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
She's definitely playing her mom and I'm playing sort of
like pseudo my dad, and it's fun to just see
that unfold.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Okay, we're gonna stop talking mothers, start talking Wicked. Because
Wicked opens in theaters this weekend. I feel like my feed,
my Instagram feed has been replaced with Wicked hype and
videos of fans in full costume going to see this
show with their friends.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Rachel, I've heard you're pretty hyped. I am hyped. I
really am.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
I feel like I'm on a scale you know when
you ask someone are they a SWIFTYE?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Right?
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Yeah, And I'm like, on a swifty scale, I'm probably
like a like a solid five six. I don't know
the most recent album that well whatever. But in terms
of like musical theater, like I'm dialed up for Wicked,
I'm dialed up for Rent.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
I know, like the big core ones.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
I don't know Newsies, but I'm all in on like Wicked,
et cetera, Hamilton, that kind of crew for those who
are sort of like on the Wicked light scale. I
do know the runtime of this is like almost three hours.
This is our this is our our musical theater, Dune,
this is our musical theater.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Lord of the rinks, Like we are buckling in. We
are not going to the bathroom. Figure it out. You're
locked in, get your stipers, do it. You need to
do TYPEE.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Tissues like be ready. I think it's gonna be great.
A friend of mine, he is doing a birthday party
to go see Wicked. There's probably about thirty forty people.
We're all go like sitting together. There's no guarantee if
we're going to be screaming, singing out loud the entire time.
Sorry to the rest of the theater. It's for his birthday. Like,
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I'll blame it on the birthday.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
You could blame it on whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
I saw that you dressed up full green face, which costume,
so I would say, you've dialed it up two and eleven.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, I have dialed it up.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
I feel like I also in person, like I'll feed
off the energy like other people who know every single
word to every single song. I will be locked in
for defining gravity. I feel like, out a respect for Cynthia,
we should not be singing, you know what I mean,
Let her quite literally pop off. Let her pop off.
But I feel like for the rest of the film,
I definitely want to do at least two times. I
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want to see it sort of absorb it this first time,
and then do sort of like a standing ovation pass
the second time.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Vox came out with this article that highlighted how many
times this story has been reimagined, which I actually didn't know.
So I want to run some fun facts by you,
Rachel and sort of test your wicked knowledge.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Let me know if you know these. Okay, but Espresso
here we go.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, okay, the Wicked team planted nine million tulips to
be a part of munchkin Land.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Whoa nine million?
Speaker 2 (12:02):
That's nine million. I think they did something similar for Signs.
You remember that they plant or maybe it was Interstellar
Christopher Nolan planted like an entire corn field. That's always
so impressive to me when films go to those links.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Both Nick Jonas and Joe Jonas auditioned to be Fierro
before the role went to Jonathan Bailey and Amanda Seifried.
Renee Rap and Dove Cameron all auditioned for the role
of Glenda.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
I did not know the Renee Rap of it all.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I feel like people were like, you already had your
sort of like Me and Girls musical moment. And I
feel like, if you've seen any of the Cynthia Arianna interviews,
they are committed to the craft.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
They're committed to each other, you know, big time. I
just saw this funny, like this creator posted a video
as actually two creators where they're doing an impression of
Arianna and Cynthia in their press interviews, and the whole time,
like one of them is sitting on the other like
sitting on their lap. They're just like inseparable. I love
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I love the friendship between them. They're crying, the hugging.
Oh my hand holding, so much emotion. Yes, yes, How.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Long do you think it took Cynthia to put the
green paint on? Every day? Oh? Five hours?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Ooh? Spoken like a true theater kid. You kind of know.
They said it was four hours to get on, in
forty five to get off. That kind of blew my mind.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Wow. You have to wonder.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
It's like, is it just hands right in a hands face,
maybe a little ankle like that, or is it full body?
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Full body would be wild? That would hinge. It feels
un chine and necessary foot fail. I don't know. Maybe
it's part of the process. You never know. Maybe it's
a method thing. Oh, it could be method. Yeah. Are
you happy with the cast?
Speaker 1 (13:55):
I know it's hard when once you see something come
out to imagine other people as part of it. But
would you make any changes if you were directing?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
I'm actually really psyched with this cast.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
I feel like it would be too muddled if it
felt like you know, a Dina Menzel or Chris and
Chenna with two point zero, like, let's do something brand new, reimagined.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
But like honor those who really sort of brought it
to the world, well said.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I was reading in that same article that Stephen Daldry,
who directed The Crown, was initially attached to Wicked, and
he pitched Lady Gaga and Shawn Mendes as alpha bon Fierra.
What I could kind of see it. I don't hate those,
I don't know, seem like you don't like it.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Weird to me. It's the Shawn Mendes that I'm a
little confused.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
John A, Lady Gaga could literally do anything anything, but
I'm like Sean, really, I also just like deeply love
how much Ariana Grande really just like loves and cherishes
musical theater. Yeah, and Cynthia's we course, but like for
her to really take a step back from like the
pop life and commit to this for two years is
(15:06):
really impressive.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I think there's something to be said, Rachel about what
you just said in that, you know, if you're a comedian,
the comedians of our generation, I think we're able to
study the greats, And if you're a musical theater buff
people were able to study the greats, and I think
there's this idea, and I'm not sure that it's true,
(15:31):
but the idea is that gen Z hasn't really studied
film history or comedy history or like the greats of
each sort of category. And I think seeing young people
like Ariana Grande embrace musical theater and sort of the
technicality and like the purity of its history feels really exciting.
(15:53):
It's like, Okay, it's going to live on m Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
That also feels like someone from the community is doing
this for the community, you know, and there's like something
that's really rewarding and satisfying about that, because musical theater
is a community. Like you are vieweded theater as a kid,
you know, you are initiated into.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
That club for life. Yeah, it's gonna beautiful. It really
is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
We're gonna take a quick break from popping off, but
we'll be right back and we're back to popping off
with Rachel Samples. I am equally obsessed with the person
that this next story is about. So Diane Keaton announced
(16:41):
that she's actually releasing a holiday song. All we know though,
is that it's called First Christmas, and her announcement you
guys on Instagram is peak Diane. She's in her signature
black turtleneck, the baggy pants. It's giving artsy, it's giving
avant garde, it's giving chic. I'm a huge if you
can already tell. I mean, she's our movie mom, right,
(17:03):
like she kind of practically raised us. But I'm really
curious about this. It's kind of giving jazzy Christmas. Yeah.
What do you guys think about Diane Keaton stepping into
the music space.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
We are Nancy Meyer's household over here, like, and my
girlfriend Allie is spiritually Diane Keaton. Like we've kicked it
around as like potentially a theme for our birthday party.
So everyone comes obviously like a neutral turtleneck is constantly
spilling things, and it's like, like, that's so Diane Keaton energy.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
So we are psyched. We are so psyched.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I feel like she has given us nuggets of singing
in a few of her movies.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
So I think it's gonna be beautiful. I think it's what
the world needs. It really is. You're right, I think
we really need this now more than ever, So thank
you DK.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
I also think, just like recently the Martha Stewart dot
come out on Netflex, now DeKay doing her thing. I'm like,
these are the great Danielle to your point earlier, like
let them play.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Let them do the thing.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah, And I like the notion that we're all embracing
women that are a little bit more mature doing new
things and we're excited about it. I sort of am
imagining the cover art of this with like Diane sitting
in a perfectly mismatched chair with a Santa hat like
tilted slightly off. Everything's like works, but it's a little
(18:30):
weird and kooky and mismatch and plaid, but still matches perfectly. Yeah,
I'm excited about this. I think, you know, anything she
does I love. I don't think I've ever disliked anything
Diane Kayton did.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
No, here's the funny thing, Danielle, So she actually posted
the cover art. There's no Santa hat in site, there
are no jingle bells in sight, no Holly. It's very
simple and streamlined, and it just has like red white
and then everything else is black and white. It's so
I just love that it's so her, Like this is
very much Diane, you know, like she her whole house
(19:05):
is black and white, and it's just it feels very
authentic to her, So I love that for her.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Oh I can't wait drop the whole album DK.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Seriously, Rachel, are you are you extremely online with your job?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I I'd say week by week that changes. Sometimes I'm
fully in it deep deep deep, and then sometimes I'm like,
you know, you need to cool it. But I like,
I'm actively trying to like learn that those Gracie Abrams
lyrics to like do that dance trend thing.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
You know what I mean. Like I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh,
I'm in a rot week. I'm in a Internet rot week.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
What's your relationship like to the algorithm because a lot
of people whose careers are centered around social have this
like love hate relationship with the Instagram algorithm.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
M hm.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
I actually don't think about it too much in terms
of like how visible my stuff is. Yes, Like I
think what I've just seen over the years with TikTok
is TikTok wants you to.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Just feed it the exact same thing.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
So if you did a video that's a minute and
you're playing a character or whatever, they're like, great, do
that again thirty more times, and we'll keep rewarding you
for that.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Interesting for trying to be like creative and trying new things.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
You're like, well, I know I'm going to not do
that thirty times in a row, so we'll ride this
out see what else happens. I feel like there's no
rhyme or reason, but I feel like in terms of
what I watch like there definitely is sort of like
you're curating and grooming your for you page or your
algorithm to feed you the funny stuff you want to see,
the beautiful stuff you want to see, and then, of
(20:39):
course if you stop on that one, like sad puppy video,
buckle up because you just signed up to have that
fill your feed for the rest of the week.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
So it's interesting you say that because Instagram announced earlier
this week that it's going to give users a new
way to customize their feeds, so you may no longer
have to see the sad puppy videos if that's not
what you're wanting.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Here's what it's doing.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Okay, And I'm not techie, so as I share these,
maybe explain them to me.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Safe space, Safe space, let's all try to work together.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
The app is rolling out of feature that allows users
to reset their recommendations, so this means that we can
clear out recommended posts that's kind of cool, like stuff
we don't want to see.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
We can clear that out.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
We can unfollow accounts we are no longer interested in.
I feel like we've always been able to do that,
but okay.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yep, it's called free will.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
And also you can flag content that you don't want
to see. Also seems like you could do that before.
So the main one is really that you can like
kind of reset your algorithm and recalibrate what is recommended
to you and fine tune what you actually want to see.
The idea really is that this will be specifically good
for teens, so they can have a safer, more positive,
(21:50):
age appropriate experiences. I don't know how I feel about this,
because I think it could be a fresh start that
a lot of us have been craving online. And on
the other hand, I think this potentially just doubles down
on the echo chambers that we're all already in.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
I did see this, and I like how you put that,
because I do. I do agree with you. I didn't realize,
like you flip the coin, it's like.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Oh, that echo chamber just got a lot deeper. Yeah, interesting,
you know.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
I actually, sometimes hear people say stuff that really upsets me,
like it just is so different than my point of view,
and I like will go to their profile to unfollow
them because I'm like, I don't want to see this.
And then I stop myself because I'm like, you make
yourself see it, Danielle, make yourself listen to it.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
I don't know if you have to do that to yourself, Danielle.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
If someone is if someone is like really grading on
you because of their views, like, think about how that's
impacting your mental health. You can still bring in different
viewpoints by you know, reading, looking at different articles.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Spare yourself.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Yeah, you know what I wish this this Instagram update had.
I wish it was able to go through everyone you
follow and if they have gotten married and changed their
last name and you can no longer place how you
know that person you no longer follow them.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
You know, It's funny all the time, I'm like, oh, freshman,
you're blah blah blah, no, you have no.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Stop rewards marriage and Rachel samples. This happens to me
all the time. Though.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Someone will pop up in my feet and I'm like,
who is who is this person?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
It's always the baby. It's the baby, and I'm like,
they like it's them.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Having a baby or an announcement, so it's not even
them in the photo. And I just see a child
on like a quilt that says three months and I'm like.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Whoa lose baby? Who baby? Who is this?
Speaker 2 (23:54):
It's true, it's always life's transitions that remind you that
you really don't know who this person is.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Deeply think Instagram prioritizes baby on quilt photos. Oh yeah,
I think so an engagement, those are always the two.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
It's time for another short break, but we'll be right
back with Rachel Samples. And we're back with Rachel Samples.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I want a shift to talk about something that Isa
Ray said this week. She's giving us a pretty hot take.
Curious to hear what you guys think on this. So
she was a guest on the Naked Beauty podcast with
Brooke de Vard and during the interviews, she mentioned that
she thinks men in general are bad at conversations. She said,
many men don't understand the basic skills that are required
(24:42):
for having an elevated conversation, like asking follow ups, actively listening,
and you know, just kind of being intuitive and prodding
someone when it's clear that they have feelings about something.
I've got my thoughts on this, I'm going to reserve
them till the end. I want to give you all
the floor, starting with you, Rachel, what's your reaction to this?
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Take god.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
I mean I think of every instance where a woman
has had to find out about someone's ex girlfriend and
like the minimum amount of detail, like hey, I think
she lives in San Diego and she has brown hair,
boom she's found on Instagram. Immediately, women get it, we're digging,
(25:26):
we're getting into the emotion of it, the why we
always are going to prod and get to know more.
And I don't see that very often from guys, even
guy friends. I feel like there's just like an understood
sort of like baseline of how deep we're gonna go,
and there isn't a ton.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Of follow up. Interesting.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I also feel like I'm not a big digger personally,
so I can kind of just like keep it surface level.
But I'm always fascinated by dynamics or a couple relationships
that support guys not communicating well, like, for instance, going
out to drinks with friends and the guy is allowed
(26:07):
to watch football.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
On his phone or the majority of the drinks to
like a toddler that's like my toddler.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
That's an iPad kid. That's an iteration of the iPad kid.
And I'm like, how how's that? Okay, that's crazy. I
have to say, I've never seen that out in the wild.
Oh yeah, it's it's rampant.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
It's like really really yes, like it's that would be
a real deal breaker.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
It just seems so dismissive, so dismissive.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
I think it's rude. It's a version of just like
texting or whatever. But I think there's there's examples like
that that just like support not having to communicate or
you know, have a conversation and things like that.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
So this is definitely a broad stroke that I'm painting.
But every man that I have dated is less interested
in the details of conversation than I am. So like,
for instance, and this is what Lisa is talking about,
I think, like I'll give an example, like a guy
I dated will come home and be like, oh, you know,
(27:14):
I forgot to tell you Jake and his wife are
getting divorced, and it's and then I'm like, oh my god,
that's that's so sad.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Why? Oh, I don't know. What do you mean? You
saw Jake, you were there for three hours? You didn't
ask why he was getting divorced? What happened?
Speaker 2 (27:28):
And that?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
Oh? I didn't think to ask, well is he doing okay?
Should like how about his wife? Should we text them? Like?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
What's the dynamic? What are they going to do with
their kids? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I didn't ask how do you not ask all of
the questions? And I don't know if that's me being
nosy because you know, Glennon Doyle, I heard her on
a podcast say something that I really try to practice
that in grief, there's no room for curiosity, and I
really do believe that, because you should just show up
and be and be there and support people. Like, the
(28:00):
idea of being curious about someone's pain is so icky,
So I don't mean it in that way. Yeah, but
the idea of not asking follow ups of just like
a simple what happened or why? Like you know, Simon
and I went to journalism school. There's the who, what, where? When?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Why? That's just it seems very obvious to me.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yet five right there, Budd, Yeah, maybe five questions even.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Outside of like emotional related follow ups, even just being like, so,
who's keeping the dog? Like you could even just go
from a like gistical standpoint of like who's moving out?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
What are they feel like? Nothing? Yeah, I don't know.
I I just don't understand.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
So I do feel like, obviously, I think there's truth
in any generalization. I do think it's a bit of
a broad generalization. And I talked to my husband about
it last night. I was just like, hey, do you
have deep conversations with your friends? And he was like, yeah,
I have deep conversations with my friends all the time,
(29:04):
Like most he was saying, like, you know, I'll have
a friend over and he'll turn on a movie. We'll
turn on a movie and sometimes we'll just get into
a conversation. We'll pause the movie for an hour and
we'll have this deep talk. Now, do I think that
my husband is like the norm? No, I think he's
probably the exception.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Will he with you? No, my straight husband's not going
to keeck you with me. I need someone who's gonna
key key with me. Do you what do you mean
by that gossip? Like like get into.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Those Yeah, yeah, cause I'm not gonna gossip in the
outer world. That's like not for me to do inside
my house. I need a man that's going to key
key with me.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
I mean a little bit, but I don't know. I'm
trying to like not do it as much. What I
know is like not as fun. But I think, yes,
if if there was something that we needed to Kiki about. Absolutely,
and there's always like husband and wife confidence or like
you know, there's there's that sort of like nda within
the confines of your relationship. But anyways, I think a
(30:01):
man who can have deep conversations and.
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Follow up and YadA YadA.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I think that's a I think that is an exception,
but we do actually happen to have a man on
the line that we could bring into this conversation. Everybody,
please welcome our showrunner, Tim Palazzola, Tim our man.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Are men deep or no? What are your thoughts? Hello?
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Hello, listen, Simone, I think you really nail that when
you said this is a generalization, but I think Isa
and some people out there just need better friends, because
I will say a lot of my guy friends are
real nosy, and they are all up in my business.
They are all up in each other's business. And some
(30:45):
of the best conversations I have are actually with some
of my male friends who are straight. My brother's a
straight guy. He and I talk all the time. We
have really intimate conversations, very emotional. I have a straight buddy,
his name is Matt. He and I talk all the time.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Because he's straight. So my buddy Matt, my homide, my
buddy Matt. Yeah, my buddy Matt.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
And I will I will, I will take my voice
down and be like, Yo, what's up, dude, how to go?
But but I what I what I will say is
I think a lot of this has to do with
I don't think men are conditioned to have these types
of conversations, like generally, I think I'm probably a little
bit of a safe space for guys to have conversations
with because I probably engage in a different capacity. But
(31:34):
I don't think guys in general are taught to have
feelings with each other, and that probably bleeds into a
lot of the relationships they have with with each other
and with women in particular.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Yeah avoidant, Yeah, well said, thank you, Tim, all right,
thanks buddy, thanks guy. All Right, that's the first time
Tim's ever done a straight man impression for us, And
I'm gonna have to bring it back all the time now,
(32:05):
it was so.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
So good, Rachel.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
You actually you actually have a hack for improving your
relationships with your male friends, right, and it involves like
a certain name that you give them.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
So I do. Yeah, I've found really a ton of success.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
And this is for male coworkers, friends, even like new acquaintances.
But calling guys big dog is a way to get
instant respect.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
They'll do whatever whatever you need them to do.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
They want to be seen and felt as if they
are the big dog of the pack. It is a
little ego fan, but truly the control and the power
is in whoever calls them big dog.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I'm gonna call my husband big dog today and then
I'm gonna see big dog how it plays.
Speaker 4 (33:01):
It's wild and like there was that video like really
took off and a radio host, I think it was
somewhere in the Midwest. She had a male co host,
and she filmed like her saying big dog to him,
and you could actually see like a grin come on
his like like he got a little like little stood
a little taller and he was like, okay, yeah, I'll
(33:21):
grab your coffee.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
You know. It seemed genuine to me. That's hilarious. Yeah wow, I'm.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Gonna have to try this, Rachel, this has been so
much fun. Thank you for bringing in Wicked Day with us.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Thank you, Rachel. It was so great to have you
with us. Thank you so much. This is great.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Rachel Samples is a comedian and content creator. You can
find her on social at hay Free Samples.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
That's it for today's show.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
On Monday of Thanksgiving Week, the CEO of Feeding America,
Claire Babineau Fontana, is shedding light on food insecurity in
America and what we can do to help.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Listen and follow the bright Side on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
The bright Side is a production of Hello.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Sunshine and iHeart Podcasts and is executive produced by Reese Witherspoon.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Production by Arcana Audio. Our producers are Jessica Wank, Krista Ripple,
and Amy Padula. Our senior producer is It's i Kin Tania,
and our engineer is PJ.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Shahamat.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Arcana's executive producers are Francis Harlowe and Abby Ruzka.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Arcana's head of production is Matt.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
Schultz, Natalie Tulluck and Maureen Polo are the executive producers
for Hello Sunshine.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Julia Weaver is the supervising producer, and Ali Perry is
the executive producer for iHeart Podcasts. Tim Palazzola is our showrunner.
This week's episodes were recorded by Graham Gibson and Joel Morales.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Our theme song is by Anna Stump and Hamilton lighthauser.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Special thanks to Connell Byrne and Will Pearson.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
I'm Simone Boyce. You can find me at Simone boy
on Instagram and TikTok.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
And I'm Danielle Robe on Instagram and TikTok.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
That's r O B A Y.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
We'll see you Monday, y'all keep looking on the bright side.
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Simone Boyce
Danielle Robay
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