September 21, 2023 • 34 mins
ICYMI: Later, with Mo’Kelly Presents – A look at the latest in the Hollywood strike; from the WGA returning to the table alongside studios, to the failed ‘Strike Force Three’ strike support podcast…PLUS - Bill Gates has weighed-in on the future of ‘Artificial Intelligence’ AND thoughts on Amazon’s ‘Just Walk Out’ RFID technology - on KFI AM 640 – Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app
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You're listening to Later with Mo Kellyon demand from kf I AM six forty.
We're going on side. I stilldon't know it streight means, but
we're going on a side. Strike, We're going on side. We're going
on side. It's Later with moKelly Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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Let's look at where we are withthe strikes plural, because there's some really
good news to report today. Butit's not all good news when you look
at the bigger picture. But there'ssome good news. And here's what I
mean. The Writer's Guild of America, the w GA it's leadership reached out
last week and asked they were proactive. They asked for a meeting to
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move negotiations forward. That meeting happenedtoday, and I was talking to some
other radio folk via text today andthey said from what they heard, the
meetings were productive and positive, somuch so that they're meeting again tomorrow.
This is what the WGA had tosay prior to the first meeting quote,
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we have agreed and are working toschedule a meeting this week, which turned
out to me today. This isthe AMPTP, every member company of the
AMPTP is committed and eager to reacha fair deal and to working together with
the WGA to end the strike.Okay, that's the good news, and
that's where the good news ends whenyou talk about the AMPTP and WGA.
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They are sitting down at the tableand talking. But there's another strike going
on, and that's sag After Andat this point confirming what I had said
before, but there's more confirmation thatthere have been no known contract talks between
the studios and sag Aftra since thestrike even began. And I just don't
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know if you can bully or stallout the movie studios and get the deal
that you want when you have noleverage. They haven't even had any negotiations,
not one meeting, according to thisand every other trade that I've read.
This is city news service. Ihave no one in the way that
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I can find out some things whichare happening with the w GA in the
way that I'm a sag After member, and you probably get the emails.
I get emails. We know ifsag After is in the process of negotiating,
they would let us know that nobodyhas said anything which would suggest that
they're even considering going to the tablewith the movie studios at this point,
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which means that as a SAG aftermember and if I'm struggling financially, going
back to the daytime television shows,you can see this is a very very
perilous time for the union as faras whether they're going to keep that group
together. So the contract came toan end, Yes, SAG put that,
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put out their their list of demandscorrect and the studio said no,
yep, and they say we're goingon strike, and that was it.
And they've just been out on thestreets, been out on pull pits with
microphones and they got everyone named MoMAout there, you know who's been on
television and film talking about what wewant, When do we want it?
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We want it now. But theyhaven't been back to the table to actually
have another conversation. How do youbring a strike to an end if you're
not actually talking And we keep tryingto let you know, the movie studios
can easily do this throughout the endof the calendar year easily. They can
recycle material, they can put onreality television, they can re license material
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elsewhere. They're not going to struggle. You're not going to starve the studios
to death. Will they have lessrevenue as far as the quarterly earnings call,
Yes, but it's not going tobe as dire to the studios as
it is to the actors who arelegitimately struggling like a Billy Porter or someone
else, because the studios they're notgoing to shut down. Nope. Some
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of these people on strike, unfortunately, will lose their homes, They will
lose their apartments, They will bestaying with friends and so forth and so
on. I don't blame the leadershipfor taking a stand. I just don't
know if the entirety of this pictureis being looked at realistically when it comes
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to paying bills, and if everyoneis comfortable with walking away and going and
doing something else, as I've heardmany an actor an actors say, like,
we will go back to waiting tablesif we have to, if everyone
is ok with that or working,Hey, they're hiring. They got by
the posts. Not there's always worthalways. But I just I really pray
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this comes together quickly. And here'sthe uncomfortable truth we always talk about that
Mark Ronner knows this. I'm quitesure Stephen knows this. Just working in
entertainment. The whole industry shuts downwhen things are normal early November. Honestly,
yeah, get too close to Thanksgiving, it's done. For the rest
of the calendar year. There's nothingthat's going to be done. There's nothing
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that's going to happen. So ifyou want to run this strike right up
until the middle of November, inother words, you've got what fifty days
left, maybe, Yeah, you'regonna lose any attempt at any chance at
hammering out a deal before the endof the calendar year, and then you're
looking at January. Let's say youtry even get a deal done in the
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beginning part of November. It doesn'tmean that projects immediately start back up again.
They're not going to be till ManTV shows over the holidays. They're
not. No, No, itain't looking real hopeful. And I don't
know if you heard a news itemI read a little bit earlier. Some
of the premium streaming apps are startingto put their material onto the networks now
for this very reason. Yes theyare. Yellowstone is on CBS now when
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it was just on Paramount, andit's getting incredible ratings, much more than
it was getting on Paramount. Soyou know, some of these these studios
are megacorporations. Obviously they can outlastthe strikers. They have more assets to
use, they have more chips toplay, they have more options to exercise
in this because they have all thatintellectual property which they can use in any
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number of ways. Like you're saying, mar bring it to broadcast television,
they can re license it to anotherstreaming app. You know, we've seen
more and more of that they canrepurpose and just you know, if when
Disney, if Disney, I'm justpicking on Disney, Disney can come out
with all of their hits and havethem on ABC for the Holidays or something
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like that. There are too manythings that these streaming companies and also movie
studios can do to give the illusionof new content. And that's what Disney
is doing currently with ABC. Theyrelease Miss Marvels. Coming up in October,
They're releasing a Werewolf by Night exclusivelyto ABC that's really good Halloween and
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everything. Yeah, I'm not sayingthat that sag After is going to lose
US. I'm saying that it's goingto be much more painful for sag Aftra
in the course of trying to winthis, and you can't win if you're
not at the table. Me personally, I wish they would at least go
to the table as an act ofgood faith, and then you could come
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back to the membership and say,look, we tried. They're intransigent.
They're not moving, they're not willingto concede anything, they're not negotiating good
faith. We are no closer thanwhere we were before. So we have
to keep going. But you can'teven give that message to your membership because
you haven't tried yet. But alsothat would maybe fall flat. If the
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WGA has managed to get the biggun back to the table. They're getting
a Zav's Lab, they're getting Eiger, they're getting everyone back to the table.
The main head honchos of these studiosare actually meeting with the WGA.
Why couldn't they meet with SAD.That's my point. They can, but
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SAD has to be willing to reachout. Yes, you know, I
don't know what to say other thanyou can't end to strike unless you want
to end a strike. I don'tlike the odds, and it's the eternal
calculus of strikes. How do youknow you're gonna not just ultimately make everything
worse for everyone when you enter astrike. But as we've discussed countless times
before, the writers and the actors, they seem to be backed into a
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corner. So what concession is acceptablebecause they all sound terrible. I don't
know, But do you have Isthere a concession that you can accept if
it's not even going to be offered? Because if I'm the movie students,
like, why would I concede anything? Why would I make a concession?
I got you in the ropes?Yeah, exactly. It's later with Mo
Kelly Kimp. I Am six fortywhen we come back. Remember Strike Force
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five, that podcast which was supposedto be done to help raise money for
the staffs of the various nighttime talkshows. Well they're down to Strike Force
three. We'll tell you about itjust a moment. Lay camp, lay
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Camp, lay camp Camp. IAm six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio
app. Remember Strike Force five,the podcast with all the late night hosts
like Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon,Stephen Colbert, John Oliver, who did
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I miss Seth Myers? They allgot together they did a podcast in support
of all of their staffs and itseems like that'd be hundreds of people.
I don't know how they were reallygoing to raise a lot of money,
but they did sign a deal withSpotify and Apple where all the proceeds would
support the staffers of Jimmy Kimmel Alive, The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon,
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The Late Show with Stephen Colbert,Late Night with Seth Myers, and last
Week Tonight with John Oliver. AndI don't know if you listen to any
of that podcast. I listened forabout maybe five minutes, and I was
bored out of my mind, ifonly because it became obvious that these guys
need their writers desperately as far asjust and I'm quite sure they can be
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funny, but in that format,it didn't seem to work because there was
no prepared content and it didn't seemlike they were going to get to the
heart of any real matter because itseemed like this is just my interpretation,
it seemed like they did want tostep on anybody's toes, didn't want to
tell any real enlightening stories, andso they were just kind of just dancing
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around issues and it didn't didn't reallymean anything, but you know, it
debuted at number one on you know, of Spotify and Apple. We don't
know how much they raised as faras proceeds for their respective staffs, but
you know, I guess it's somewhatsuccessful. That was Strike Force five.
Now, they also had the StrikeForce three Live event, which was announced
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by Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon andstep Stephen Colbert. Well, that's got
canceled because Jimmy Kimmel has tested positivefor COVID. Quote, well, Las
Vegas, I got COVID and sadly, we need to cancel this weekend Strike
Force three show. He posted thaton x He said, I could never
live with myself if I got myhometown friends sick. Thanks to all who
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purchased tickets. Everyone will get fullrefunds and we will try to reschedule if
possible. Well, this is whatI'm thinking, and I'm just spitballing here.
Couldn't Jimmy Kimmel joined by video orsomething, you know, like you
couldn't go to the Academy Awards andsomeone will send it a tape message or
they'll join in some other location.He couldn't just stream live? Yeah,
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streamline, you know have the rootsback behind them in a sound stage.
I don't know, unless he's likecompletely bed written, I don't know how
hard he's being hit with COVID.But outside of that, it would seem
like, you know, take onefor the team. Man. You couldn't
reschedule. Well, they said they'regoing to reschedule, but I don't know
if they're actually supposed to it.If they're going to it was scheduled to
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take place at Dolby Live at ParkMGM in Las Vegas on September twenty three.
In other words, like this weekend, it would have united the three
late night hosts on stage for thefirst time ever. I really think,
and this is I'm just putting thisout here because there's another big event happening
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in Vegas this weekend. Was somebodyfighting, Uh No, that would be
the iHeart Music Festival is happening thisweekend. With those luminary talk show hosts
being out there, they could havegathered any number of superstar celebrities that will
be in town for the biggest musicfestival in the world, and they could
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have had this event, which justa strike force two. Well, it's
true, the iHeartRadio Music Festival isin Vegas this weekend and you can be
there. Last minute tickets have beenreleased starting at fifty five dollars. Head
to a xs dot com and getyour tickets now. Kelly Clarkson, Foo
Fighters, Travis Scott, Lil Wayneand many others. You know, they
could have performed and then walked rightover to Strike Force two and a half,
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Yes, and sat down with oneof the three hosts, because I
don't think a show air quotes ofjust the three hosts would be engaging.
There has to be some other talentsinvolved. Yeah, it has to be
because you don't have any writers,so you need somebody to talk to.
You gotta have somebody to talk to. Performances things like that. They could
have leveraged. They could have madethis something big. I just don't know
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if they their hearts were really init. Maybe they're like, ah,
the podcast, we're not really seeingwhat we thought we were going to see.
People are like that guy. Maybemaybe because when I look at a
similar story we talked to you abouthow Drew Barrymore, Bill Maher and other
shows the Talk said they were comingback to television. Then they said,
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no, we're not coming back becausewe respect the strikes and Sherry Shepherd's show
said we are coming back and weare in alignment with the expectations and strike.
We're not in violation to strike.Yeah yeah, bah blah blah blah.
Well, Sherry Shepherd has paused hertalk show again after testing positive for
COVID. I don't know if COVIDis a euphemism for you know, I
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trouble right. Yeah, I guessmaybe that's an easier way to gracefully back
out, And maybe they're hoping thatif I have COVID for the next week
and a half, that will buyus some time and maybe there would be
an agreement. I'm just spitballing,partially conspiracy theorizing, but it just seems
a little too convenient, that's all. It sounds a lot like Snoop postponing
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his show in solidarity with the WTAand Zach after strike. I remember,
we never heard anything else after that. Stoop never said another mumbling word about
it, didn't put up a corona, nothing, He didn't say anything in
support. He supposedly canceled his HollywoodBowl performances specifically for them, yep,
and never said another word for it. It's a holiday show. Nope,
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nope, canceled. So I mean, look, I know people who have
COVID right now, and they willbe returning to work, I believe,
yeah, tomorrow, because guess whatthey will have done. They will have
passed their infectious rate, that fiveday rate. They could wear a mask
for the next five or six daysor so, and then everything is good.
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The mild headaches, little little sniffles, a little cough, No one
has been hospitalized, no one isnear death. Because we are on the
point where we're in COVID zero,COVID light, still COVID, but it's
diet covidt at best zero COVID,COVID zervi, COVID zero. Yes,
So when you say it's the tabof COVID, what I'm saying is right
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now, if you're saying, you'repausing the entire show like our s COVID
our Yeah, you know, shoftsto COVID. This is this is what
they're dealing with. You can't honestly, oh yeah, yeah, that limon
lime taste. Say you can't.You can't come back. Stephan is too
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young to remember tab Do you remembertab cod cola? I do remember tabbing.
Then they brought it back, likein two thousand and three or something
that, Yeah, they did bringit back, and that's when the kids
started like, oh, look atthis drink. It's like, no,
the last time I had TAB wasnineteen seventy something. It was nasty then,
it's probably nasty now it's something probablyMark Ronner has on his shelf right
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now. TAB goes with mini skirtsand shag carpets, So of course I
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three. Well, I'll be talkingabout any number of things and also giving
some advice to some young communications studiesstudents. But here on Later with mo
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Kelly. We love to talk aboutall things tech and science, and more
recently it's been AI and we've beengiving our thoughts about how it may impact
our lives, but not necessarily howit may impact us globally. This is
not something which is just germane tothe United States. This is something that
every country around the world is goingto have to deal with on varying levels
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and degrees of sophistication. And Icame across this interview in which Bill Gates
sat down I think it was yesterdaywith Ari Melbourne of MSNBC, and I
just wanted to play some of histhoughts as far as what he thought about
AI, where it's going, andwhether he sees it as a danger.
This is his It's a very longinterview, but I just want to play
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a little bit of it. Thisis Bill Gates and his thoughts about AI
in a more general sense. AIis going to change jobs in a pretty
dramatic way. It's going to makepeople more productive and help out. So,
yes, this is a world changingset of advances. And AI didn't
used to be able to read andto write in the open AI chat GPT
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milestone is the first time we've seenthat, and so it will allow doctors
to do less paperwork, it'll helpteachers with homework, it'll you name a
job you know, lawyer, architect, it'll find information for you more quickly
and hopefully get rid of the dullparts of the work. I found that
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interesting, if only because he's basicallysaying, regardless of your job, industry
in which you work, there willbe an AI component. It can either
directly assist you or replace you.And so there are any number of ways.
I don't think that we've even figuredout all the likely applications. We
always think of it in terms ofintelligence, as far as providing a degree
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of creativity which is not of ourown, but it can also supplement our
own creativity. And of course,always right next to that conversation is skydt.
You know, when does it turninto this self aware entity that destroys
us all or destroys the world.Are we even close to that yet?
Is it dangerous only in our mind? Or is it actually dangerous? Because
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if it's learning capacity where it maybe just a bot as in like chatbot
GPT right now, it may bejust helping us with our science papers or
plagiarizing a term paper or something likethat, but what might it else be
capable of? And I was wondering, and the question was specifically asked about
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the danger of AI, and RiMelbourne did ask the question, to his
credit, And here's what Bill Gateshad to say. Who knows a little
bit of something about computing? AIis going to change jobs and as not
the right class, the current AIdoesn't represent that risk. But what we've
seen is the improvement, the rateof improvement in the is fast enough that
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if that continues, we're going tohave such a powerful tool that we need
to make sure that it's intent isunder control and that it's for the good
of humanity. And so even thoughwe don't have the dangers AI, the
fact we're already talking about, Okay, what should the rules be, and
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how should these things be looked over, and how should they be designed?
There's a whole in field now calledAI safety at its very beginning. But
I think it's wise that we're engagingthe government, not just the US government,
but all governments in this dialogue whenthey're still quite a bit of time
before the AI gets to be superpowerful. But here's my question, and
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far be it from me to questionBill Gates, but do we have that
much time? Because it's learning inan exponential since it's not just how we
have conventional computing and you have theseincremental increases and improvements on technology or machine
learning with AI. I'm thinking it'sexponential in nature, and it's learning at
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a much quicker rate than we areprogramming it to learn, because a component
of this is that it does learnon its own. It can assess language
if you listen closely. In thefirst clip, was talking about how there's
a machine language learning component where it'staking our languages, reading our languages,
learning from our languages, and interpretingour language, and making its own assessments
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and judgments, and that only increasesexponentially. I would think, I think
it's foolish of us to think thata computer that is now capable of learning
has to go to sleep and neverstops learning or cannot work its way around
anything that we as humans are puttingin front of it. I know we
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program I know, I know that'swhere it gets this basic code. But
I think that we are fullhardy tothink that you give something like a computer
that can think, in compute andmove faster than we can, that it's
going to find limits. Well,let me put it in another way.
Computers are designed to problem solve sowhat happens when you create the ultimate problem
solver? It's going to solve anyobstacle that you put in front of it,
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presumably. So yeah, I don'tknow at what point we may lose
control of it. I don't know, you know, like RoboCop had the
prime directive and also Star Trek.Yeah, RoboCop had had the prime directive,
and we know what was it?I robot had like the four laws
or something like that. I don'tknow if it's something that we can program
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into it or is it something youknow, they talk about in that interview.
Listen to the totality of it.They talk about, is there a
need for a circuit breaker of somekind where we could pull the plug on
something where it exists in an electronicenvironment, but it doesn't necessarily exist out
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of it, so we always havecontrol of that plug. Unfortunately, and
you know, all credit to thescientific minds to give us these fantasy films
like Terminator where they thought they couldshut sky Net down before it became self
aware and it was too late.They thought they could control Ultron until it
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was too late. When these whenthese computer programs, the murder, when
these things become self aware and arethinking to themselves, this human being has
programmed to kill switch. Maybe I'llembed myself in something that brand new iPhone
that you guys are getting. I'llI'll live somewhere off of the net,
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maybe in the dark web. Idon't know. Well, self aware is
to self preserve, you know,I think therefore, I am, well,
why would I allow myself to stopthinking or stop existing? You know,
to think and be aware is towant to survive, to have an
awareness of the beginning and ending ofyour existence on some level or something that
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may be a threat to that.But those are questions that are probably be
answered long after all of us aregone, hopefully, unless you know,
Skynet becomes self aware tomorrow. Yeah, you know who knows. You're listening
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We told you about how Amazon washiring for all these seasonal employees for
this holiday season, which approaches oris already here, depending on how you
look at it. Well, Amazonis also showing off some new expanded technology
which require zero employees, and theycall it just walk out technology. It
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uses cameras, shelf sensors, sensorfusion, and artificial intelligence technologies like computer
vision and generative AI to enable retailersto sell a wide range of products such
as food, beverages, groceries,home goods, and more without aid of
an employee or a cashier. Andwe had talked about this before where they
had these stores? Hey, Mark, did they have these in Seattle before
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you left there? I have whatsorry the Amazon employee lists cashier less stores.
They already debuted them, I thinkthey had, And they have one
here as well, don't they nearChatsworth? I think so. I've never
been in it. Yeah, butthey're expanding it where they would have.
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They would have they would be largerin nature, they would offer more items
of a nature, wouldn't be justlike a grab and go kind of thing
that you would see at seven toeleven or something like that. They're more
items there, allowing you to domore shopping there. Yeah, there's a
big one up and we've picked upgroceries there just in the in the what
do you call it, the wherethey just bring into your car. But
I haven't gone into it. Ijust don't like the idea of those,
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and I guess that's just like theold man Mark talking here. Let's talk
about it from both sides. Ilike the idea. I do a lot
of shopping with my Google wallet,where I can either use my watch or
my phone and just and it will. I don't need, okay, so
I don't need to actually pull outa credit card or an ATM card.
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And there are times where I've actuallyinadvertently forgotten my wallet at home, but
I still had my phone and Icould still purchase items. Sure, So
the stick of these stores, tochoose a word here, is that you
go through, you just throw stuffinto your cart and it just automatically scans
everything you have. Correct it probablyworks. I don't trust it. I'm
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not interested in it all. Tellme the downside. Are you afraid that
you'll be incorrectly charged or Amazon willuse that information that they already have on
your Amazon account to begin with toassess other charges to you? What is
the greatest fear? You don't evenhave to go that deep. I just
don't care for it. I mean, in the last four years, how
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often if any of us gotten outgoing to the grocery store is one of
the only times you interact with otherhuman beings lately, I mean, the
highlight of my week so far,I mean from work has been to go
to Whole Foods and walk around otherhuman beings. But you're pretty antisocial to
beginless, so this ought to beperfect for you. Well, you do
have a point there. I justdon't like it. It probably works,
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and it's probably for some people.But you know, you go to the
store, you exchange a few wordswith the cashier, maybe they ring something
up wrong. You got to goback and deal with that. I always
look at my receipt after I getout of the line because invariably something screwed
up. Because I don't know ifyou've noticed this now, but every single
grocery store now has an app,and you've got to use is the app
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to get all the sale prices andthe e coupons upon coupon? Where do
you shop? I shop at VonceI just just my Vons card, Uh,
mostly Ralph's, I guess raupse Ijust didn't put my Ralph's card number.
Yeah, but for for something athe times, man, I don't
know if you go to Ralphs forsome things you got to actively put an
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e coupon onto your shopping list orsomething like that. Really, because I
just put in my Ralph's card number. And then like if you go late
on a Tuesday night, all thesales are off because they change them on
the East Coast. Okay, andyou gotta pay attention to what's on the
shelves. And yeah, it's reallyI don't go that when I'm going to
the grocery store. I'm not coupon. I'm not old grandmother with coupons.
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And when I get to be ahost again, I won't pay attention to
sale prices either buddy boy, theBig Bucks or something. Yeah, yeah,
Look, all I'm saying is whatAmazon is doing is what most I
think stores are going to be doingat some point if they have the opportunity
to offer a retail experience where theydon't have to hire somebody, they don't
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have to have payroll, text,they don't have to pay benefits, they
don't have to deal with the unexpectedvacations like Stephen will take it. Oh,
I can't make it in today.My girlfriend is sick and I gotta
stay home with her. You don'thave to deal with any of that Why
would businesses move away from that?Why would they even shun That's that's the
way all businesses are going to bein the future. Now Tuala has a
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different concern that you would love.I'm sorry, but when Southern California is
dolling out some two hundred and seventyfive million dollars to various law enforcement agencies
to crack down on people walking outof stores with stuff, I don't want
to be the one flaunting my newRFID technology just like look at me.
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But by the bye, I justbought this thing and I'm walking out and
I'm tackled, and now I can'tbreathe, and now Mark is reporting on
me being killed in the wait whatdoes that sound effect? Again? Can
you do that? I can't?I like that. That was good between
the two of you. Do youhave to like run the tape back?
Can you run the tape back?Stuff? And we got to wait till
the break? No? I likethat get away. I mean, I
think I think Mo. You're writingit's the direction things are going in because
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shareholders want profits and it's just inevitablethat you're going to do things that reduce
costs and increase profits. But itmakes me sad. I don't want to
be a part of it. Idon't want to contribute to it. I
like to go to a store andinteract people with people. Yeah, I
get that, and I hear thatfrom people in their old fashioned like my
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parents love the feel of getting anewspaper and running their fingers over the pages.
They like the feel of an actualbook. And then I showed my
mother a kindall She never looked back. Sometimes I think if you go through
the experience and you see the upsideand benefit, I think people are more
comfortable with it. In an abstractsense. It makes it a little bit
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more difficult, I suppose. Butthen there's also the other argument that of
self checkouts, Like, if you'renot going to pay somebody to be a
cashier, why don't you lower thecost of the grocery Since I'm doing all
this, I agree, I agree, But I also here there are a
lot more people like you who donot want to use the self checkout,
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and so they would rather deal withan actual cashier, because every one of
these grocery stores can do away witha cashier for the most part. Well,
I'll tell you the best reason forthe self checkout is when you're buying
embarrassing stuff or stuff that you don'twant to make. What are you talk
conversation about? Mark, what areyou talking about? Or if you don't
want to be, you know,profiled, are you so what you're talking
about? What do you talking about? Like? What do you what are
you buying? If you're buying abox, it depends or some condoms or
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anything that you just don't feel liketalking about. I have never been embarrassed
to buy a box of condoms backwhen I was buying a box of condoms,
because I would walk up there andsay, yes, my ass is
having sex. Yeah, yeah,look at this box of magnums here,
ma'am get out of my life?Yeah, speak one. Would I be
embarrassed? Like that's a moment ofpride. Yes, I'm buying condoms.
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I'll tell you everyone watching you weretalking about jobs that we used to have,
and I know we got to takea break here. When I was
in high school, I worked fora while at a grocery store. You
better bet that you're getting psychologically profiledevery time you go through a line.
Absolutely, absolutely, That's why I'mgood with it. Woman comes through with
a box of tampons and some icecream. Welt got her weekends sorted out,
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and they all do it. DamnMark, Damn listen. I'm just
I'm reporting that's gonna break down.Do you say something really really objected to
the ball? Nothing, there's nothingoffensive about that. I alright, IM
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We're going on side. I stilldon't know it streight means, but
we're going on a side. Strike, We're going on side. We're going
on side. It's Later with moKelly Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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Let's look at where we are withthe strikes plural, because there's some really
good news to report today. Butit's not all good news when you look
at the bigger picture. But there'ssome good news. And here's what I
mean. The Writer's Guild of America, the w GA it's leadership reached out
last week and asked they were proactive. They asked for a meeting to
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move negotiations forward. That meeting happenedtoday, and I was talking to some
other radio folk via text today andthey said from what they heard, the
meetings were productive and positive, somuch so that they're meeting again tomorrow.
This is what the WGA had tosay prior to the first meeting quote,
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we have agreed and are working toschedule a meeting this week, which turned
out to me today. This isthe AMPTP, every member company of the
AMPTP is committed and eager to reacha fair deal and to working together with
the WGA to end the strike.Okay, that's the good news, and
that's where the good news ends whenyou talk about the AMPTP and WGA.
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They are sitting down at the tableand talking. But there's another strike going
on, and that's sag After Andat this point confirming what I had said
before, but there's more confirmation thatthere have been no known contract talks between
the studios and sag Aftra since thestrike even began. And I just don't
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know if you can bully or stallout the movie studios and get the deal
that you want when you have noleverage. They haven't even had any negotiations,
not one meeting, according to thisand every other trade that I've read.
This is city news service. Ihave no one in the way that
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I can find out some things whichare happening with the w GA in the
way that I'm a sag After member, and you probably get the emails.
I get emails. We know ifsag After is in the process of negotiating,
they would let us know that nobodyhas said anything which would suggest that
they're even considering going to the tablewith the movie studios at this point,
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which means that as a SAG aftermember and if I'm struggling financially, going
back to the daytime television shows,you can see this is a very very
perilous time for the union as faras whether they're going to keep that group
together. So the contract came toan end, Yes, SAG put that,
(03:04):
put out their their list of demandscorrect and the studio said no,
yep, and they say we're goingon strike, and that was it.
And they've just been out on thestreets, been out on pull pits with
microphones and they got everyone named MoMAout there, you know who's been on
television and film talking about what wewant, When do we want it?
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We want it now. But theyhaven't been back to the table to actually
have another conversation. How do youbring a strike to an end if you're
not actually talking And we keep tryingto let you know, the movie studios
can easily do this throughout the endof the calendar year easily. They can
recycle material, they can put onreality television, they can re license material
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elsewhere. They're not going to struggle. You're not going to starve the studios
to death. Will they have lessrevenue as far as the quarterly earnings call,
Yes, but it's not going tobe as dire to the studios as
it is to the actors who arelegitimately struggling like a Billy Porter or someone
else, because the studios they're notgoing to shut down. Nope. Some
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of these people on strike, unfortunately, will lose their homes, They will
lose their apartments, They will bestaying with friends and so forth and so
on. I don't blame the leadershipfor taking a stand. I just don't
know if the entirety of this pictureis being looked at realistically when it comes
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to paying bills, and if everyoneis comfortable with walking away and going and
doing something else, as I've heardmany an actor an actors say, like,
we will go back to waiting tablesif we have to, if everyone
is ok with that or working,Hey, they're hiring. They got by
the posts. Not there's always worthalways. But I just I really pray
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this comes together quickly. And here'sthe uncomfortable truth we always talk about that
Mark Ronner knows this. I'm quitesure Stephen knows this. Just working in
entertainment. The whole industry shuts downwhen things are normal early November. Honestly,
yeah, get too close to Thanksgiving, it's done. For the rest
of the calendar year. There's nothingthat's going to be done. There's nothing
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that's going to happen. So ifyou want to run this strike right up
until the middle of November, inother words, you've got what fifty days
left, maybe, Yeah, you'regonna lose any attempt at any chance at
hammering out a deal before the endof the calendar year, and then you're
looking at January. Let's say youtry even get a deal done in the
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beginning part of November. It doesn'tmean that projects immediately start back up again.
They're not going to be till ManTV shows over the holidays. They're
not. No, No, itain't looking real hopeful. And I don't
know if you heard a news itemI read a little bit earlier. Some
of the premium streaming apps are startingto put their material onto the networks now
for this very reason. Yes theyare. Yellowstone is on CBS now when
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it was just on Paramount, andit's getting incredible ratings, much more than
it was getting on Paramount. Soyou know, some of these these studios
are megacorporations. Obviously they can outlastthe strikers. They have more assets to
use, they have more chips toplay, they have more options to exercise
in this because they have all thatintellectual property which they can use in any
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number of ways. Like you're saying, mar bring it to broadcast television,
they can re license it to anotherstreaming app. You know, we've seen
more and more of that they canrepurpose and just you know, if when
Disney, if Disney, I'm justpicking on Disney, Disney can come out
with all of their hits and havethem on ABC for the Holidays or something
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like that. There are too manythings that these streaming companies and also movie
studios can do to give the illusionof new content. And that's what Disney
is doing currently with ABC. Theyrelease Miss Marvels. Coming up in October,
They're releasing a Werewolf by Night exclusivelyto ABC that's really good Halloween and
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everything. Yeah, I'm not sayingthat that sag After is going to lose
US. I'm saying that it's goingto be much more painful for sag Aftra
in the course of trying to winthis, and you can't win if you're
not at the table. Me personally, I wish they would at least go
to the table as an act ofgood faith, and then you could come
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back to the membership and say,look, we tried. They're intransigent.
They're not moving, they're not willingto concede anything, they're not negotiating good
faith. We are no closer thanwhere we were before. So we have
to keep going. But you can'teven give that message to your membership because
you haven't tried yet. But alsothat would maybe fall flat. If the
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WGA has managed to get the biggun back to the table. They're getting
a Zav's Lab, they're getting Eiger, they're getting everyone back to the table.
The main head honchos of these studiosare actually meeting with the WGA.
Why couldn't they meet with SAD.That's my point. They can, but
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SAD has to be willing to reachout. Yes, you know, I
don't know what to say other thanyou can't end to strike unless you want
to end a strike. I don'tlike the odds, and it's the eternal
calculus of strikes. How do youknow you're gonna not just ultimately make everything
worse for everyone when you enter astrike. But as we've discussed countless times
before, the writers and the actors, they seem to be backed into a
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corner. So what concession is acceptablebecause they all sound terrible. I don't
know, But do you have Isthere a concession that you can accept if
it's not even going to be offered? Because if I'm the movie students,
like, why would I concede anything? Why would I make a concession?
I got you in the ropes?Yeah, exactly. It's later with Mo
Kelly Kimp. I Am six fortywhen we come back. Remember Strike Force
(09:11):
five, that podcast which was supposedto be done to help raise money for
the staffs of the various nighttime talkshows. Well they're down to Strike Force
three. We'll tell you about itjust a moment. Lay camp, lay
(09:39):
Camp, lay camp Camp. IAm six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio
app. Remember Strike Force five,the podcast with all the late night hosts
like Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon,Stephen Colbert, John Oliver, who did
(10:00):
I miss Seth Myers? They allgot together they did a podcast in support
of all of their staffs and itseems like that'd be hundreds of people.
I don't know how they were reallygoing to raise a lot of money,
but they did sign a deal withSpotify and Apple where all the proceeds would
support the staffers of Jimmy Kimmel Alive, The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon,
(10:24):
The Late Show with Stephen Colbert,Late Night with Seth Myers, and last
Week Tonight with John Oliver. AndI don't know if you listen to any
of that podcast. I listened forabout maybe five minutes, and I was
bored out of my mind, ifonly because it became obvious that these guys
need their writers desperately as far asjust and I'm quite sure they can be
(10:50):
funny, but in that format,it didn't seem to work because there was
no prepared content and it didn't seemlike they were going to get to the
heart of any real matter because itseemed like this is just my interpretation,
it seemed like they did want tostep on anybody's toes, didn't want to
tell any real enlightening stories, andso they were just kind of just dancing
(11:11):
around issues and it didn't didn't reallymean anything, but you know, it
debuted at number one on you know, of Spotify and Apple. We don't
know how much they raised as faras proceeds for their respective staffs, but
you know, I guess it's somewhatsuccessful. That was Strike Force five.
Now, they also had the StrikeForce three Live event, which was announced
(11:35):
by Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon andstep Stephen Colbert. Well, that's got
canceled because Jimmy Kimmel has tested positivefor COVID. Quote, well, Las
Vegas, I got COVID and sadly, we need to cancel this weekend Strike
Force three show. He posted thaton x He said, I could never
live with myself if I got myhometown friends sick. Thanks to all who
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purchased tickets. Everyone will get fullrefunds and we will try to reschedule if
possible. Well, this is whatI'm thinking, and I'm just spitballing here.
Couldn't Jimmy Kimmel joined by video orsomething, you know, like you
couldn't go to the Academy Awards andsomeone will send it a tape message or
they'll join in some other location.He couldn't just stream live? Yeah,
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streamline, you know have the rootsback behind them in a sound stage.
I don't know, unless he's likecompletely bed written, I don't know how
hard he's being hit with COVID.But outside of that, it would seem
like, you know, take onefor the team. Man. You couldn't
reschedule. Well, they said they'regoing to reschedule, but I don't know
if they're actually supposed to it.If they're going to it was scheduled to
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take place at Dolby Live at ParkMGM in Las Vegas on September twenty three.
In other words, like this weekend, it would have united the three
late night hosts on stage for thefirst time ever. I really think,
and this is I'm just putting thisout here because there's another big event happening
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in Vegas this weekend. Was somebodyfighting, Uh No, that would be
the iHeart Music Festival is happening thisweekend. With those luminary talk show hosts
being out there, they could havegathered any number of superstar celebrities that will
be in town for the biggest musicfestival in the world, and they could
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have had this event, which justa strike force two. Well, it's
true, the iHeartRadio Music Festival isin Vegas this weekend and you can be
there. Last minute tickets have beenreleased starting at fifty five dollars. Head
to a xs dot com and getyour tickets now. Kelly Clarkson, Foo
Fighters, Travis Scott, Lil Wayneand many others. You know, they
could have performed and then walked rightover to Strike Force two and a half,
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Yes, and sat down with oneof the three hosts, because I
don't think a show air quotes ofjust the three hosts would be engaging.
There has to be some other talentsinvolved. Yeah, it has to be
because you don't have any writers,so you need somebody to talk to.
You gotta have somebody to talk to. Performances things like that. They could
have leveraged. They could have madethis something big. I just don't know
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if they their hearts were really init. Maybe they're like, ah,
the podcast, we're not really seeingwhat we thought we were going to see.
People are like that guy. Maybemaybe because when I look at a
similar story we talked to you abouthow Drew Barrymore, Bill Maher and other
shows the Talk said they were comingback to television. Then they said,
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no, we're not coming back becausewe respect the strikes and Sherry Shepherd's show
said we are coming back and weare in alignment with the expectations and strike.
We're not in violation to strike.Yeah yeah, bah blah blah blah.
Well, Sherry Shepherd has paused hertalk show again after testing positive for
COVID. I don't know if COVIDis a euphemism for you know, I
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trouble right. Yeah, I guessmaybe that's an easier way to gracefully back
out, And maybe they're hoping thatif I have COVID for the next week
and a half, that will buyus some time and maybe there would be
an agreement. I'm just spitballing,partially conspiracy theorizing, but it just seems
a little too convenient, that's all. It sounds a lot like Snoop postponing
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his show in solidarity with the WTAand Zach after strike. I remember,
we never heard anything else after that. Stoop never said another mumbling word about
it, didn't put up a corona, nothing, He didn't say anything in
support. He supposedly canceled his HollywoodBowl performances specifically for them, yep,
and never said another word for it. It's a holiday show. Nope,
(15:43):
nope, canceled. So I mean, look, I know people who have
COVID right now, and they willbe returning to work, I believe,
yeah, tomorrow, because guess whatthey will have done. They will have
passed their infectious rate, that fiveday rate. They could wear a mask
for the next five or six daysor so, and then everything is good.
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The mild headaches, little little sniffles, a little cough, No one
has been hospitalized, no one isnear death. Because we are on the
point where we're in COVID zero,COVID light, still COVID, but it's
diet covidt at best zero COVID,COVID zervi, COVID zero. Yes,
So when you say it's the tabof COVID, what I'm saying is right
(16:26):
now, if you're saying, you'repausing the entire show like our s COVID
our Yeah, you know, shoftsto COVID. This is this is what
they're dealing with. You can't honestly, oh yeah, yeah, that limon
lime taste. Say you can't.You can't come back. Stephan is too
(16:48):
young to remember tab Do you remembertab cod cola? I do remember tabbing.
Then they brought it back, likein two thousand and three or something
that, Yeah, they did bringit back, and that's when the kids
started like, oh, look atthis drink. It's like, no,
the last time I had TAB wasnineteen seventy something. It was nasty then,
it's probably nasty now it's something probablyMark Ronner has on his shelf right
(17:11):
now. TAB goes with mini skirtsand shag carpets, So of course I
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find tickets to my live performance atthe Marcy Auditorium at El Camino on October
three. Well, I'll be talkingabout any number of things and also giving
some advice to some young communications studiesstudents. But here on Later with mo
(18:07):
Kelly. We love to talk aboutall things tech and science, and more
recently it's been AI and we've beengiving our thoughts about how it may impact
our lives, but not necessarily howit may impact us globally. This is
not something which is just germane tothe United States. This is something that
every country around the world is goingto have to deal with on varying levels
(18:29):
and degrees of sophistication. And Icame across this interview in which Bill Gates
sat down I think it was yesterdaywith Ari Melbourne of MSNBC, and I
just wanted to play some of histhoughts as far as what he thought about
AI, where it's going, andwhether he sees it as a danger.
This is his It's a very longinterview, but I just want to play
(18:52):
a little bit of it. Thisis Bill Gates and his thoughts about AI
in a more general sense. AIis going to change jobs in a pretty
dramatic way. It's going to makepeople more productive and help out. So,
yes, this is a world changingset of advances. And AI didn't
used to be able to read andto write in the open AI chat GPT
(19:18):
milestone is the first time we've seenthat, and so it will allow doctors
to do less paperwork, it'll helpteachers with homework, it'll you name a
job you know, lawyer, architect, it'll find information for you more quickly
and hopefully get rid of the dullparts of the work. I found that
(19:38):
interesting, if only because he's basicallysaying, regardless of your job, industry
in which you work, there willbe an AI component. It can either
directly assist you or replace you.And so there are any number of ways.
I don't think that we've even figuredout all the likely applications. We
always think of it in terms ofintelligence, as far as providing a degree
(20:03):
of creativity which is not of ourown, but it can also supplement our
own creativity. And of course,always right next to that conversation is skydt.
You know, when does it turninto this self aware entity that destroys
us all or destroys the world.Are we even close to that yet?
Is it dangerous only in our mind? Or is it actually dangerous? Because
(20:26):
if it's learning capacity where it maybe just a bot as in like chatbot
GPT right now, it may bejust helping us with our science papers or
plagiarizing a term paper or something likethat, but what might it else be
capable of? And I was wondering, and the question was specifically asked about
(20:47):
the danger of AI, and RiMelbourne did ask the question, to his
credit, And here's what Bill Gateshad to say. Who knows a little
bit of something about computing? AIis going to change jobs and as not
the right class, the current AIdoesn't represent that risk. But what we've
seen is the improvement, the rateof improvement in the is fast enough that
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if that continues, we're going tohave such a powerful tool that we need
to make sure that it's intent isunder control and that it's for the good
of humanity. And so even thoughwe don't have the dangers AI, the
fact we're already talking about, Okay, what should the rules be, and
(21:32):
how should these things be looked over, and how should they be designed?
There's a whole in field now calledAI safety at its very beginning. But
I think it's wise that we're engagingthe government, not just the US government,
but all governments in this dialogue whenthey're still quite a bit of time
before the AI gets to be superpowerful. But here's my question, and
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far be it from me to questionBill Gates, but do we have that
much time? Because it's learning inan exponential since it's not just how we
have conventional computing and you have theseincremental increases and improvements on technology or machine
learning with AI. I'm thinking it'sexponential in nature, and it's learning at
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a much quicker rate than we areprogramming it to learn, because a component
of this is that it does learnon its own. It can assess language
if you listen closely. In thefirst clip, was talking about how there's
a machine language learning component where it'staking our languages, reading our languages,
learning from our languages, and interpretingour language, and making its own assessments
(22:45):
and judgments, and that only increasesexponentially. I would think, I think
it's foolish of us to think thata computer that is now capable of learning
has to go to sleep and neverstops learning or cannot work its way around
anything that we as humans are puttingin front of it. I know we
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program I know, I know that'swhere it gets this basic code. But
I think that we are fullhardy tothink that you give something like a computer
that can think, in compute andmove faster than we can, that it's
going to find limits. Well,let me put it in another way.
Computers are designed to problem solve sowhat happens when you create the ultimate problem
solver? It's going to solve anyobstacle that you put in front of it,
(23:30):
presumably. So yeah, I don'tknow at what point we may lose
control of it. I don't know, you know, like RoboCop had the
prime directive and also Star Trek.Yeah, RoboCop had had the prime directive,
and we know what was it?I robot had like the four laws
or something like that. I don'tknow if it's something that we can program
(23:52):
into it or is it something youknow, they talk about in that interview.
Listen to the totality of it.They talk about, is there a
need for a circuit breaker of somekind where we could pull the plug on
something where it exists in an electronicenvironment, but it doesn't necessarily exist out
(24:12):
of it, so we always havecontrol of that plug. Unfortunately, and
you know, all credit to thescientific minds to give us these fantasy films
like Terminator where they thought they couldshut sky Net down before it became self
aware and it was too late.They thought they could control Ultron until it
(24:33):
was too late. When these whenthese computer programs, the murder, when
these things become self aware and arethinking to themselves, this human being has
programmed to kill switch. Maybe I'llembed myself in something that brand new iPhone
that you guys are getting. I'llI'll live somewhere off of the net,
(24:56):
maybe in the dark web. Idon't know. Well, self aware is
to self preserve, you know,I think therefore, I am, well,
why would I allow myself to stopthinking or stop existing? You know,
to think and be aware is towant to survive, to have an
awareness of the beginning and ending ofyour existence on some level or something that
(25:18):
may be a threat to that.But those are questions that are probably be
answered long after all of us aregone, hopefully, unless you know,
Skynet becomes self aware tomorrow. Yeah, you know who knows. You're listening
to Later with Mo Kelly on demandfrom kf I AM sixty mp I AM
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We told you about how Amazon washiring for all these seasonal employees for
this holiday season, which approaches oris already here, depending on how you
look at it. Well, Amazonis also showing off some new expanded technology
which require zero employees, and theycall it just walk out technology. It
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uses cameras, shelf sensors, sensorfusion, and artificial intelligence technologies like computer
vision and generative AI to enable retailersto sell a wide range of products such
as food, beverages, groceries,home goods, and more without aid of
an employee or a cashier. Andwe had talked about this before where they
had these stores? Hey, Mark, did they have these in Seattle before
(26:27):
you left there? I have whatsorry the Amazon employee lists cashier less stores.
They already debuted them, I thinkthey had, And they have one
here as well, don't they nearChatsworth? I think so. I've never
been in it. Yeah, butthey're expanding it where they would have.
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They would have they would be largerin nature, they would offer more items
of a nature, wouldn't be justlike a grab and go kind of thing
that you would see at seven toeleven or something like that. They're more
items there, allowing you to domore shopping there. Yeah, there's a
big one up and we've picked upgroceries there just in the in the what
do you call it, the wherethey just bring into your car. But
I haven't gone into it. Ijust don't like the idea of those,
(27:11):
and I guess that's just like theold man Mark talking here. Let's talk
about it from both sides. Ilike the idea. I do a lot
of shopping with my Google wallet,where I can either use my watch or
my phone and just and it will. I don't need, okay, so
I don't need to actually pull outa credit card or an ATM card.
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And there are times where I've actuallyinadvertently forgotten my wallet at home, but
I still had my phone and Icould still purchase items. Sure, So
the stick of these stores, tochoose a word here, is that you
go through, you just throw stuffinto your cart and it just automatically scans
everything you have. Correct it probablyworks. I don't trust it. I'm
(27:57):
not interested in it all. Tellme the downside. Are you afraid that
you'll be incorrectly charged or Amazon willuse that information that they already have on
your Amazon account to begin with toassess other charges to you? What is
the greatest fear? You don't evenhave to go that deep. I just
don't care for it. I mean, in the last four years, how
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often if any of us gotten outgoing to the grocery store is one of
the only times you interact with otherhuman beings lately, I mean, the
highlight of my week so far,I mean from work has been to go
to Whole Foods and walk around otherhuman beings. But you're pretty antisocial to
beginless, so this ought to beperfect for you. Well, you do
have a point there. I justdon't like it. It probably works,
(28:38):
and it's probably for some people.But you know, you go to the
store, you exchange a few wordswith the cashier, maybe they ring something
up wrong. You got to goback and deal with that. I always
look at my receipt after I getout of the line because invariably something screwed
up. Because I don't know ifyou've noticed this now, but every single
grocery store now has an app,and you've got to use is the app
(29:00):
to get all the sale prices andthe e coupons upon coupon? Where do
you shop? I shop at VonceI just just my Vons card, Uh,
mostly Ralph's, I guess raupse Ijust didn't put my Ralph's card number.
Yeah, but for for something athe times, man, I don't
know if you go to Ralphs forsome things you got to actively put an
(29:21):
e coupon onto your shopping list orsomething like that. Really, because I
just put in my Ralph's card number. And then like if you go late
on a Tuesday night, all thesales are off because they change them on
the East Coast. Okay, andyou gotta pay attention to what's on the
shelves. And yeah, it's reallyI don't go that when I'm going to
the grocery store. I'm not coupon. I'm not old grandmother with coupons.
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And when I get to be ahost again, I won't pay attention to
sale prices either buddy boy, theBig Bucks or something. Yeah, yeah,
Look, all I'm saying is whatAmazon is doing is what most I
think stores are going to be doingat some point if they have the opportunity
to offer a retail experience where theydon't have to hire somebody, they don't
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have to have payroll, text,they don't have to pay benefits, they
don't have to deal with the unexpectedvacations like Stephen will take it. Oh,
I can't make it in today.My girlfriend is sick and I gotta
stay home with her. You don'thave to deal with any of that Why
would businesses move away from that?Why would they even shun That's that's the
way all businesses are going to bein the future. Now Tuala has a
(30:32):
different concern that you would love.I'm sorry, but when Southern California is
dolling out some two hundred and seventyfive million dollars to various law enforcement agencies
to crack down on people walking outof stores with stuff, I don't want
to be the one flaunting my newRFID technology just like look at me.
(30:52):
But by the bye, I justbought this thing and I'm walking out and
I'm tackled, and now I can'tbreathe, and now Mark is reporting on
me being killed in the wait whatdoes that sound effect? Again? Can
you do that? I can't?I like that. That was good between
the two of you. Do youhave to like run the tape back?
Can you run the tape back?Stuff? And we got to wait till
the break? No? I likethat get away. I mean, I
think I think Mo. You're writingit's the direction things are going in because
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shareholders want profits and it's just inevitablethat you're going to do things that reduce
costs and increase profits. But itmakes me sad. I don't want to
be a part of it. Idon't want to contribute to it. I
like to go to a store andinteract people with people. Yeah, I
get that, and I hear thatfrom people in their old fashioned like my
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parents love the feel of getting anewspaper and running their fingers over the pages.
They like the feel of an actualbook. And then I showed my
mother a kindall She never looked back. Sometimes I think if you go through
the experience and you see the upsideand benefit, I think people are more
comfortable with it. In an abstractsense. It makes it a little bit
(31:59):
more difficult, I suppose. Butthen there's also the other argument that of
self checkouts, Like, if you'renot going to pay somebody to be a
cashier, why don't you lower thecost of the grocery Since I'm doing all
this, I agree, I agree, But I also here there are a
lot more people like you who donot want to use the self checkout,
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and so they would rather deal withan actual cashier, because every one of
these grocery stores can do away witha cashier for the most part. Well,
I'll tell you the best reason forthe self checkout is when you're buying
embarrassing stuff or stuff that you don'twant to make. What are you talk
conversation about? Mark, what areyou talking about? Or if you don't
want to be, you know,profiled, are you so what you're talking
about? What do you talking about? Like? What do you what are
you buying? If you're buying abox, it depends or some condoms or
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anything that you just don't feel liketalking about. I have never been embarrassed
to buy a box of condoms backwhen I was buying a box of condoms,
because I would walk up there andsay, yes, my ass is
having sex. Yeah, yeah,look at this box of magnums here,
ma'am get out of my life?Yeah, speak one. Would I be
embarrassed? Like that's a moment ofpride. Yes, I'm buying condoms.
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I'll tell you everyone watching you weretalking about jobs that we used to have,
and I know we got to takea break here. When I was
in high school, I worked fora while at a grocery store. You
better bet that you're getting psychologically profiledevery time you go through a line.
Absolutely, absolutely, That's why I'mgood with it. Woman comes through with
a box of tampons and some icecream. Welt got her weekends sorted out,
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and they all do it. DamnMark, Damn listen. I'm just
I'm reporting that's gonna break down.Do you say something really really objected to
the ball? Nothing, there's nothingoffensive about that. I alright, IM
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just in smart speakers, We're ina couple of smart ears as well.
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