Cops, Criminals, and Christ

In this episode, Dale Sutherland shares his powerful journey from childhood panic attacks to confronting life-threatening situations as an undercover police officer. Discover how he learned to face fear head-on by blending cognitive behavioral therapy techniques with his faith. Whether you struggle with anxiety or simply want to understand how to live courageously despite fear, Dale’s story offers practical lessons and encouragemen...

What could buying drugs as an undercover cop possibly have in common with sharing the gospel of Jesus? As it turns out, quite a lot.

Dale Sutherland spent decades working undercover narcotics cases while simultaneously nurturing a passionate commitment to sharing his Christian faith with everyone he met. In this fascinating conversation with his daughter Kristen, Dale reveals the surprising skills that transferred between these...

From policing the streets to pastoring a mega church, Dale Sutherland's extraordinary leadership journey offers rare insights for anyone making tough decisions that impact others. Join us as this former cop turned pastor reveals his battle-tested leadership principles that work in any arena. Discover why you must choose who to make mad, how to navigate failure, and why leadership at home matters most. Whether you're leadi...

Thirty years ago, The Undercover Pastor played a role in the arrest that sent this man to prison. Now, the two sit down face-to-face to talk about that day, the fallout, and the powerful redemption only Christ can bring.

They explore the fear of reconnecting, the complexity of defunding the police, what happens when a cop struggles, and the importance of owning your part in any story. This is more than a conversation — it’...

What really goes on behind the scenes as an undercover cop? Dale Sutherland, retired DC police Sergeant and current pastor, along with host, Kristen Crew, take us back to hear what life is like as an undercover cop. It's easy to talk about the successful big cases, but in this episode they dive into close calls Dale faced on the job. Dale talks about an unfortunate circumstance that nearly cost him his life, his brave coworker...

What really goes on behind the scenes (BTS) as an undercover cop? Dale Sutherland, retired DC police Sergeant and current pastor, along with host, Kristen Crew, let the audience listen in on a conversation they had between podcast recordings about Dale's ADHD brain, it's impact on his thinking, his work, and his faith. It gives an insightful look at the strengths and struggles behind the success of his life.

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What really goes on behind the scenes as an undercover cop? Dale Sutherland, retired DC police Sergeant and current pastor, along with host, Kristen Crew, take us back to hear what life is like as an undercover cop. It's easy to talk about the successful big cases, but in this episode they talk about a few of the undercover police cases that have gone wrong. Dale is honest about mistakes he made and how to grapple with faith i...

What really goes on behind the scenes as an undercover cop? Dale Sutherland, retired DC police Sergeant and current pastor, along with host, Kristen Crew, take us back to hear how he just barely escaped death. In this episode,  you will hear about his work with a dangerous group that ultimately planned his demise. They give an inside look at how he came out alive, the outcome of the case, and touch on how Dale navigated being a man...

What really goes on behind the scenes as an undercover cop? Dale Sutherland, retired DC police Sergeant and current pastor, along with host, Kristen Crew, take us back to hear how he set up a fake recording studio and became into Richie Valdez in order to buy guns, drugs, and stop major robberies in DC and up the east coast. In this episode, you will be on the edge of your seat as the story builds and Dale explains how they were mi...

What really goes on behind the scenes as an undercover cop? Dale Sutherland, retired DC police Sergeant and current pastor, along with host, Kristen Crew, take us back to hear how he transformed into an Italian mobster to buy drugs and build a case over time would lead to significant arrests. They talk about the outcome of the case, touch on how this impacted his home life, and how he navigated being a man of Christian faith in thi...