March 13, 2025 • 20 mins
On Sports Fix with Jason Pine and D'Arcy Waldegrave for Thursday March 13, 2025 - Jared Lawson, father of New Zealand F1 superstar Liam Lawson, talks about the start of 2025 from Melbourne Australia. How is the Kiwi handling his newfound fame?
D’Arcy delivers an opinion on yet another price hike from Sky TV.
Plus, the lads join the panel to discuss Joe Parker getting shafted by the murky world of heavyweight boxing.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello there, and welcome into the Sports Fox podcast. A
fresh episode for today, Thursday, the thirteenth of March. Roaring
into the podcast. That sounds like my mate, Darcy wata Grove.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Oh wow, guess what I'm drawling over right now?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I would imagine it's something to do with what is
happening about three and a half hours to our west
in Australia, with qualifying practice etc. About to begin ahead
of the Australian Grand Prix on Sunday, featuring one Al Lawson.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm ridiculously excited, beyond excited for I hope Liam's calmer
than I am. I really to cook hit a right
bit of trouble. But look I caught up with his dad,
Jared Lawson and Addie yarn to him about the energy
this race, if he's changed much of Jared's actually noticed
much about Limb and the way he's handling things. And
(01:15):
he actually came home. He spent a bit of time
back at the family home, eating decent dinner and getting
told to clean his room up, So it sounds like
he's very, very calm. But near more about that with
Jared Lawson and we're going to hit that ground running surely.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Looking forward to hearing from the father of one of
our big sporting stars. A few issues to kick around
in the chamber, and today's later sports news as well,
So let's get.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Into it, please, let's do it. In other news checking
out some of the big news stories around today.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Liam Lawson's tempering any lofty expectations as he adjust to
life as a full time Formula One driver with red
Ball Hell debut this weekend at the season opening Australian
Grand Prix.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
I'm not going in there thinking that from the very
start we're going to be winning races, qualifying on poland
sitting off onto the sunset. It's going to be extremely tough,
but for the amount of prep with it, we've done
everything we can.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Hurricanes co captain of Sapfuama changed to get back on
the rugby field after a delay in his recovery from
off season foot surgery. He's been named to come off
the bench for the Hurricanes tomorrow night against the Highlanders
and Dunedin.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
A slow and if you hiccups along the way, well
other little nibules around my foot and league, So being
frustrated watching rugby put the most wash.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
What's like every game every weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And a controversial call and the penalty shootout has seen
Real Madrid squeeze pass rivals Atletico and then too the
quarterfinals the Football's Champions League, Rail prevailed four to two
on spot kicks. Athletico's third penalty, slotted by Julian Alvarez,
was later overturned because the referee deemed he touched the
ball twice as he slipped and kicked it. Antonio Rudiger
(02:54):
scored the winner for Rail all.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Those years in the game, I don't like talk tip.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It up RUDIGERA squeezed it in Real Madrid.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Yes a game.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
This is Sportsfix, your daily dose of sports news, how
and by news talks heavy.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Huge weekend. Well, that is an understatement. In the motor
sport world, especially for New Zealand fans of race cars,
Liam Lawson is competing. We're joined now by his father,
Jared Lawson.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Okay, Jared, Hey, Darcy, how are you doing.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I'm doing well. I'm very very excited, but probably not
as excited as you and the family. Your boy gets
the start off as Formula one career, it's starting in Melbourne.
We know he's had eleven races, but now it's bona fide,
he's in red ball. It's all go from now. A
talk about excitement, talk about pressure though, how's that working?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (03:54):
Yeah, well the pressures are given, is always there, I guess.
But the excitement, yeah, I think everyone's awaited a long
time for it to happen, so.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
And it's come around. I mean the first race has
come around pretty quick.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
So he he's excited. I think the whole family, all
the supporters. There's a hell of a continuent of people.
There's a lot of people who have come across for it.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
So that's really cool.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
You've had him at home though recently, right, so he's
had a bit of like you know, down home cooking
and a bit of relaxation. How important is that for
him to actually feel that?
Speaker 7 (04:26):
I think for him it's very important because he kind
of his family is quite it was a close family,
so when he's home he enjoys that, you know, the
home cooking, the you know they're.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
Sitting around playing guitars but laughing. You know that sort
of stuff.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
So I think it was a really nice way for
him just to recharge before he came across.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
A massive decompress for him. What it's been like for
him since he's been given the seat and the intense
engagement with him from the media, from Formula one, from
the fans, that that could be overwhelming. How's he coping
with that?
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (05:03):
Look, I can't even imagine what his phone's doing. My
phone's gone ballistic. Go to the last week and a
half two.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
Sorry, which is which is great, Like the messages of support.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
Have been just overwhelming, to be honest, But no, I
think I mean he's he's well used to it now.
And you know, because he stepped into the into the
Red Bull roll in terms of full time late last year.
You know, it's just a I guess, a progression and
he's had a couple of months to adjust. And certainly
(05:35):
it's a lot busier. His his media commitments, everything are
how of a lot busier now than what they were
last year, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Have you noticed anything different in the way he is
leading into this event?
Speaker 7 (05:47):
No, I have been looking for for anything like that,
but no, he's no different to be honest, he's approaching
in the same way I think, and which is probably
a good thing, and not seeing anything different about him.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Really, he seems pretty relaxed well, and.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
That's why he's got there in the first place, very focused.
I was talking on a Yesday editorial piece about the
idea of him actually locking in and forgetting all the
outside noise and just doing what he does best, and
I from what we've seen of his career so far,
is adept at doing that.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
Again, it's just I guess it's just a year on ye.
I mean, the pressure ramps up that the you know,
the stakes get higher, a bit higher, you know, and
now it's just continue to do that. I mean performance
on track is crucial obviously, but I think these first
few rounds is Melbourne has never done the track. In fact,
I think it's the only drivers never actually driven the track,
(06:40):
and the Shanghai is never done. So for him, it's
just about getting up to speed and trying to trying
to pull some some valuable points out of those first
few races and just build on that from there.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I just wondering about the expectation on results we can
weak out has been that been laid down to what
the expectations are or what he expects himself, because he's
not going to shake up the world in the first
couple of rounds, but he must have an idea about
where he'd be comfortable for this such a thing in
Formula one result wise.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
Well, it's interesting thing about Formula One as they do
the preseason testing and then we all wait to see
the first round and see where, you know, where the
cars shake out in terms of performance. So I don't
think anyone's fully aware yet as to the pecking order,
although you know, I think everyone's reasonably confident McLaren on
McLaren aer on top. But and this track is a
bit of an outlier anyway, being a street seker, so
(07:32):
I think, you know, in terms of his expectation, he's
always got high expectations, but I think the team aren't
putting too much expectation. And I think really it's just
about learning and trying to get him up to speed
as quickly as possible, bearing in mind he's you know,
he's got a fairly big mountains one considering he's never
done the track and the.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Way he's developed his craft coming from pretty much nothing
up to the to the top of the tree with
the help from his family. So he brought you a
new house yet.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Jared, No, I'm afraid that's a long way away, still
in debt.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Laugh about that, but that's the hra the top of
Formula one. You're making, you know, millions and millions of
dollars a year. You just get in. It's not so big.
How I'm stunned that he's never actually driven around Albert
Park before that. It's just over the road. It's bizarre.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
Well, the thing is because F two and F three
only came here the last last couple of years, and
he was of course doing super Formula, so he he's
He took James Courtney around in James's VA.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Last year for a lap for a hot lab and.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
That was That's about the sum total of the track
time he's had around this round the circuit.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And he's spent plenty of time stuck stuck in the
sim you got a simulator at home, he's been on
the PlayStation. He would have done a lap after lap
after lap. Surely you'd like to think he knows it
by the back of his hand.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Ah, I'm sure.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
I'm sure he's done a lot of summer in the
UK before he left them, and they have all there
some days, so yeah, he would have done a heck
of a lot of some work.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
But yeah, at home, I mean he's still got a
sim set up.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
But I'm not sure if he went around there with
Park but it was home, I must ask, actually.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And he just was Liam Lawson when he was at home.
He's just your son doing what the son did yet
to tell him to clean his room, to bring his
distance out of his bedroom, that all that kind of
regular stuff. And nothing's changed there, right, Jared.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
I didn't not Absolutely nothing has changed there. I can
tell you it's still the same as it was ten
years ago.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Has he said anything around the differences you said, you
haven't noticed anything. I know how reserved he is or
empties everything out to you, But has anything struck him
in the last couple of months that maybe he didn't
see coming?
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Not really as a sayman, I think it's because it's
been a you know, a gradual build and the way
things have worked out.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
I think he knew that the seat was coming.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
It slight well, a little bit of ahead of time
before he actually finally got her, So he's had time
to ease you know or ease into it in terms
of our mental approach.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
So I don't think I haven't certainly haven't seen any
any change.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
And he hasn't mentioned anything, or it's just that the
media attention has just gone.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
You know, it's a lot more there's a lot more
attention on them, that's for sure.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
I mean, when you're in a front running team, it's
quite different to being in a midfield team in terms
of the attention.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
You can well, we're really looking forward to this and
that is the understatement of the year for me. Jared,
Thanks for making yourself available now. It's super super busy
for you. All there are wishing you the best. Ibie
drives it like he stole it, just like a good
South Auckland kid, And thanks for your time, mate, enjoy it.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
No worries and just thanks everybody for all all the
support messages and so forth. He's been He's been overwhelmed
by all. So that's great, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Sex got the email yesterday. Looks like my sky burl
is going up again. My initial response to that was,
I really you want another teen twelve percent of me?
What for? And then I looked down the list and
thought you know, if I'm being really honest, it's still
represents it's very good value for money. It does for
(11:11):
me because I'm in the sport broadcasting business. I have
to have Sky to keep up with the play. But
I'm also a massive fan of Formula one, of Rugby,
Union of golf. I want to see all those things
and I want them at my fingertips. And for the
amount of money I'm paying, I really can't complain. I've
got a sneaking suspicion the reason that this increase has happened,
(11:35):
because they happen with alarming regularity. I think Sky have
probably signed a deal with New Zealand Rugby which will
invariably cost them more, which means it will cost us
more because they always pass it back to the consumer.
But that's okay, right, So I think this is a
(11:55):
harbringer of a new contract for Sky and the All Blacks.
And if that is the case, and I can't back
this up with anything concrete, I suspect this is the case.
I'm very pleased to Sky, I'm pleased for the All Blacks.
I'm pleased for New Zealand at Rugby. It is the
absolute pinnacle of sport broadcasting. In this country. This is
(12:18):
the diamond. This is the contract that everybody wants, and
for Sky to secure that and keep us all calm
and steady, along, of course with the cricket coverage that
they have already secured, this represents great value for money,
good news for Sky and quite frankly good news for
the customer out in case you're wondering, they don't give
(12:40):
it to me for free? Right, This is not a
party political broadcast. I pay just like the rest of you.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
We are now in session on.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Sports, and to the chamber we go where we find
a crestfallen vern Cotter. Well, he's not with us, but
a crest fall and fallen vern Cootta.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Will we call him crestfallen?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
He's without Boden Barrett for four to six weeks. Where
where will that sit on vern Coott's emotional scale?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well, i'd understand why he'd be hiding in the chamber
with us. This is not great news for him and
his prospects. But in saying that, look it's got Harry Plummer.
He's not hardly choppl lid of that bloke, is he?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
No, he's well, he guided the Blues to a super
Rugby Championship last season, of course, But I guess you
think to yourself, well, is a team better with Boden
Barrett in it or with Boden Barrett not in as?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
And I guess, well has he been so far the season?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Look at the Boden Barrett, what he's achieved, what he
hasn't achieved. He's hardly set the world on fires.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
He Well, he had a really good first half last week,
didn't he?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
And he scored that try And I think we were
starting to see in the in the eventual loss of
the Brumbies that he was starting to find that form
starting at first five actually for the first time this season.
So look, I think he was starting to get back
to it. A hand fracture is just niggly, isn't it,
because you don't know. I mean, the four to six
weeks could be four, it could be six. It might
(13:58):
even be a bit more. But regardless of all of that,
the Blues will have to try and turn around what's
been a pretty stuttering season does without one of their
main men.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, I didn't mean to criticize Bowden Bower because we
know when that counts he will stand up. So you know,
teething problems early season. He'd have been fine later on
on the piece. But if you're relying on defending your
title based on the exploits of one player, you're in
a power pop. And I'm sure that Stern Vern, who's
no longer mirthful vern Cotta, knows that he's got bigger
(14:27):
fish to fry than worrying about where his pivot's going
to be and how long he's going to be injured for.
You just can't focus like that, surely.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
No, it's got Stephen Petafetta two coming back into the
mix hes off the bench against the Chiefs on Saturday night,
so he does have another option there should he decide
to use Stephen Petofetta in that perfect role. So yeah,
big game coming up. I don't know whether you can
answer this question to us, but the Blues are playing
the Chiefs on Saturday night for the second time in
five weeks.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Because that's the Super Rugby draw. That's the best answer
I can give you, the most obvious one, ain't. Why not?
Then people are re enthused about Super Rugby. This is
one of the tremendous clashes. So it happened again in
a short amount of time doesn't matter. Nah, I don't
think so. People are keen as about super Rugby strike
while the iron is hot.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yeah, I see.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Even as she was saying that, I'm thinking to myself, well,
I'm gonna bloody watch it, watch it on Saturday night.
So it's actually very good scheduling if you're just taking
a survey of one and that's me into accounts.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Can we talk some boxing.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Joseph Parker was supposed to fight Daniel Dubois two or
three weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
That fight did not take place.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Dubois pulled out pretty late in the piece with a
supposed illness.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
And now, rather than.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Do the you know, the do the right thing morally
and say to Joseph Parker, okay, let's reschedule, he's gone
off and started talks with Alexander Usik. So Parker is
gonna have to watch those two go at it.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
It really brings a lot of muscle to the arm
of the only reason you didn't fight Parker is because
you wanted to reunify all of these belts and there
was a chance that explosed of Joseph was going to
melt you and you didn't want that, so you fled.
You basically up and ran away. Now, whether there's it
in truth to that or not, but now this latest
(16:11):
situation where the fight's not going to be rescheduled, you go, No,
that was definitely the truth. That was an avoidant play
because he wants to fight for the title and Ousick.
We don't know if it's happening yet, but I expect
it would be to be a massive payday.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Right, yeah, but what excuse me? When does it leave
Joseph Parker?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Does it just leave him on the outside looking in,
knowing that unfortunately he's not as big a name as
either Daniel Dubois or Alexander Husick.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Well, he could think that. He could think I'm not
as big a name, but it also think they're all
terrified of me. So fine, run and hide. I'll come
and get you eventually, don't you worry about that. I'm
sitting here lurking, and I think they both know that.
Where he goes with his next fight on scheduled, we
don't know yet, But I think with Joe, like a
lot of fighters, the more active they are, the better
(17:01):
they are. And when you look at Joe Parker and
his last handful of fights, He's had a lot of
time between scraps, still turned up with the goods, which
says a lot for his training schedule, his diet, everything
else about his camp. Even if he has to wait,
he can still turn up with full effect. So he's
a patient man, Joe Parker. He's been patient to wait
for his time to come back again. And it's a virtue,
(17:23):
I'm told, not that I reflect that in any way
shape or for me.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I was going to say, you have to take other
people's having spent some time with you on Yeah, I
mean you are lots of things patient. Look on occasion
you are, We're digressing. Look, am I being too logic
would suggest if Usik beats du Bois, then Parker might
have a shop a shot at usk or am I
just being far too logical for the And he said
(17:48):
two more fights.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Basically he'succeed a couple more on I'm out. So if
he can defend his belt, there might be a chance
or his belts, there might be a chance to go.
You know what, I'm going to retire unbeaten. I've done
what I need to do. There's no point in blemishing
my copybook, and that might be more than likely although
you'd expect for the grand outing Saudi rams and go,
(18:09):
oh god, give us one warning shot. Why don't you
be an understand it Usik. Once he's punched you bar
on the face to great success, he'll go, I actually
don't need to do this anymore. I've made my mark
of proven myself and I've got all four straps back again.
That's what he wanted. That's his goal.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yet, Yeah, and that would be twenty four unbeaten fights,
including beating Tyson Fury twice, Anthony Joshua twice, Derek Gizora,
and if he beats Dubois again, that would be Dubois twice.
So yeah, you kind of think to yourself, what else
has he got to do. He doesn't have to fight
Joseph Parker, does he? No?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
But what happens if that does actually transpire. Suddenly there's
going to be a whole of the straps up for
grabs because old mate's going to walk away from the game,
and there's going to be this huge tussle at that
next level down amongst the boxes, the pugilists he talked
about before, to try and get in there and have
a crack at one of those straps, So the waters
(19:04):
will open, the sea will divide. Should Usik beat up
to bar and leave?
Speaker 4 (19:09):
All right? We wake with we wake with patients.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
You just hang on and we'll see what transpires with
the world of protests.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Were you going to give me that patience for because
Andrew Webster tried that on me this week. You've got
to show, but show any patients.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I want winds Now, it's the it's the instant gratification
that you're desiring.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Sometimes it's the ADHD. I can blame my chemical makeup.
That's what I can blame. And I'm going to.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
All right, fair enough. On that note, we shall depart
the chamber.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
We're back in here tomorrow talking about a massive sporting weekend,
including quite a bit on Liam Lawson. But for now
we will slam the door on the chamber. Come on, vern,
out we go. And on that note, we'll finish the
Sports Books podcast for today Thursday, March thirteen. But as
I just mentioned, a fresh episode tomorrow, jam packed with
preview material for the weekend ahead.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Does well.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
It's a big weekend and for a number of reasons
in sport we know this. We've all I've got the
thing that we love that. We're looking forward to. I'm
going to super glue myself to the couch. I'm going
to watch all I can when it comes to practice,
and then all of our qualifying and then all of
the races at the perfect time. The Formula One season
twenty twenty five gets underway Albert Park in Melbourne. Liam
(20:28):
Lawson finally gets to take a decent car around the track.
It's an understatement, so I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
I can tell. I can tell.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hello there, and welcome into the Sports Fox podcast. A
fresh episode for today, Thursday, the thirteenth of March. Roaring
into the podcast. That sounds like my mate, Darcy wata Grove.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Oh wow, guess what I'm drawling over right now?
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I would imagine it's something to do with what is
happening about three and a half hours to our west
in Australia, with qualifying practice etc. About to begin ahead
of the Australian Grand Prix on Sunday, featuring one Al Lawson.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm ridiculously excited, beyond excited for I hope Liam's calmer
than I am. I really to cook hit a right
bit of trouble. But look I caught up with his dad,
Jared Lawson and Addie yarn to him about the energy
this race, if he's changed much of Jared's actually noticed
much about Limb and the way he's handling things. And
(01:15):
he actually came home. He spent a bit of time
back at the family home, eating decent dinner and getting
told to clean his room up, So it sounds like
he's very, very calm. But near more about that with
Jared Lawson and we're going to hit that ground running surely.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Looking forward to hearing from the father of one of
our big sporting stars. A few issues to kick around
in the chamber, and today's later sports news as well,
So let's get.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Into it, please, let's do it. In other news checking
out some of the big news stories around today.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Liam Lawson's tempering any lofty expectations as he adjust to
life as a full time Formula One driver with red
Ball Hell debut this weekend at the season opening Australian
Grand Prix.
Speaker 5 (01:58):
I'm not going in there thinking that from the very
start we're going to be winning races, qualifying on poland
sitting off onto the sunset. It's going to be extremely tough,
but for the amount of prep with it, we've done
everything we can.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Hurricanes co captain of Sapfuama changed to get back on
the rugby field after a delay in his recovery from
off season foot surgery. He's been named to come off
the bench for the Hurricanes tomorrow night against the Highlanders
and Dunedin.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
A slow and if you hiccups along the way, well
other little nibules around my foot and league, So being
frustrated watching rugby put the most wash.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
What's like every game every weekend.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And a controversial call and the penalty shootout has seen
Real Madrid squeeze pass rivals Atletico and then too the
quarterfinals the Football's Champions League, Rail prevailed four to two
on spot kicks. Athletico's third penalty, slotted by Julian Alvarez,
was later overturned because the referee deemed he touched the
ball twice as he slipped and kicked it. Antonio Rudiger
(02:54):
scored the winner for Rail all.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
Those years in the game, I don't like talk tip.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It up RUDIGERA squeezed it in Real Madrid.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Yes a game.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
This is Sportsfix, your daily dose of sports news, how
and by news talks heavy.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Huge weekend. Well, that is an understatement. In the motor
sport world, especially for New Zealand fans of race cars,
Liam Lawson is competing. We're joined now by his father,
Jared Lawson.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Okay, Jared, Hey, Darcy, how are you doing.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I'm doing well. I'm very very excited, but probably not
as excited as you and the family. Your boy gets
the start off as Formula one career, it's starting in Melbourne.
We know he's had eleven races, but now it's bona fide,
he's in red ball. It's all go from now. A
talk about excitement, talk about pressure though, how's that working?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (03:54):
Yeah, well the pressures are given, is always there, I guess.
But the excitement, yeah, I think everyone's awaited a long
time for it to happen, so.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
And it's come around. I mean the first race has
come around pretty quick.
Speaker 7 (04:07):
So he he's excited. I think the whole family, all
the supporters. There's a hell of a continuent of people.
There's a lot of people who have come across for it.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
So that's really cool.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
You've had him at home though recently, right, so he's
had a bit of like you know, down home cooking
and a bit of relaxation. How important is that for
him to actually feel that?
Speaker 7 (04:26):
I think for him it's very important because he kind
of his family is quite it was a close family,
so when he's home he enjoys that, you know, the
home cooking, the you know they're.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
Sitting around playing guitars but laughing. You know that sort
of stuff.
Speaker 7 (04:41):
So I think it was a really nice way for
him just to recharge before he came across.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
A massive decompress for him. What it's been like for
him since he's been given the seat and the intense
engagement with him from the media, from Formula one, from
the fans, that that could be overwhelming. How's he coping
with that?
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (05:03):
Look, I can't even imagine what his phone's doing. My
phone's gone ballistic. Go to the last week and a
half two.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
Sorry, which is which is great, Like the messages of support.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
Have been just overwhelming, to be honest, But no, I
think I mean he's he's well used to it now.
And you know, because he stepped into the into the
Red Bull roll in terms of full time late last year.
You know, it's just a I guess, a progression and
he's had a couple of months to adjust. And certainly
(05:35):
it's a lot busier. His his media commitments, everything are
how of a lot busier now than what they were
last year, that's for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Have you noticed anything different in the way he is
leading into this event?
Speaker 7 (05:47):
No, I have been looking for for anything like that,
but no, he's no different to be honest, he's approaching
in the same way I think, and which is probably
a good thing, and not seeing anything different about him.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Really, he seems pretty relaxed well, and.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
That's why he's got there in the first place, very focused.
I was talking on a Yesday editorial piece about the
idea of him actually locking in and forgetting all the
outside noise and just doing what he does best, and
I from what we've seen of his career so far,
is adept at doing that.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:19):
Again, it's just I guess it's just a year on ye.
I mean, the pressure ramps up that the you know,
the stakes get higher, a bit higher, you know, and
now it's just continue to do that. I mean performance
on track is crucial obviously, but I think these first
few rounds is Melbourne has never done the track. In fact,
I think it's the only drivers never actually driven the track,
(06:40):
and the Shanghai is never done. So for him, it's
just about getting up to speed and trying to trying
to pull some some valuable points out of those first
few races and just build on that from there.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I just wondering about the expectation on results we can
weak out has been that been laid down to what
the expectations are or what he expects himself, because he's
not going to shake up the world in the first
couple of rounds, but he must have an idea about
where he'd be comfortable for this such a thing in
Formula one result wise.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
Well, it's interesting thing about Formula One as they do
the preseason testing and then we all wait to see
the first round and see where, you know, where the
cars shake out in terms of performance. So I don't
think anyone's fully aware yet as to the pecking order,
although you know, I think everyone's reasonably confident McLaren on
McLaren aer on top. But and this track is a
bit of an outlier anyway, being a street seker, so
(07:32):
I think, you know, in terms of his expectation, he's
always got high expectations, but I think the team aren't
putting too much expectation. And I think really it's just
about learning and trying to get him up to speed
as quickly as possible, bearing in mind he's you know,
he's got a fairly big mountains one considering he's never
done the track and the.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Way he's developed his craft coming from pretty much nothing
up to the to the top of the tree with
the help from his family. So he brought you a
new house yet.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Jared, No, I'm afraid that's a long way away, still
in debt.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Laugh about that, but that's the hra the top of
Formula one. You're making, you know, millions and millions of
dollars a year. You just get in. It's not so big.
How I'm stunned that he's never actually driven around Albert
Park before that. It's just over the road. It's bizarre.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
Well, the thing is because F two and F three
only came here the last last couple of years, and
he was of course doing super Formula, so he he's
He took James Courtney around in James's VA.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Last year for a lap for a hot lab and.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
That was That's about the sum total of the track
time he's had around this round the circuit.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
And he's spent plenty of time stuck stuck in the
sim you got a simulator at home, he's been on
the PlayStation. He would have done a lap after lap
after lap. Surely you'd like to think he knows it
by the back of his hand.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Ah, I'm sure.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
I'm sure he's done a lot of summer in the
UK before he left them, and they have all there
some days, so yeah, he would have done a heck
of a lot of some work.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
But yeah, at home, I mean he's still got a
sim set up.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
But I'm not sure if he went around there with
Park but it was home, I must ask, actually.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
And he just was Liam Lawson when he was at home.
He's just your son doing what the son did yet
to tell him to clean his room, to bring his
distance out of his bedroom, that all that kind of
regular stuff. And nothing's changed there, right, Jared.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
I didn't not Absolutely nothing has changed there. I can
tell you it's still the same as it was ten
years ago.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Has he said anything around the differences you said, you
haven't noticed anything. I know how reserved he is or
empties everything out to you, But has anything struck him
in the last couple of months that maybe he didn't
see coming?
Speaker 7 (09:41):
Not really as a sayman, I think it's because it's
been a you know, a gradual build and the way
things have worked out.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
I think he knew that the seat was coming.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
It slight well, a little bit of ahead of time
before he actually finally got her, So he's had time
to ease you know or ease into it in terms
of our mental approach.
Speaker 6 (10:02):
So I don't think I haven't certainly haven't seen any
any change.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
And he hasn't mentioned anything, or it's just that the
media attention has just gone.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
You know, it's a lot more there's a lot more
attention on them, that's for sure.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
I mean, when you're in a front running team, it's
quite different to being in a midfield team in terms
of the attention.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
You can well, we're really looking forward to this and
that is the understatement of the year for me. Jared,
Thanks for making yourself available now. It's super super busy
for you. All there are wishing you the best. Ibie
drives it like he stole it, just like a good
South Auckland kid, And thanks for your time, mate, enjoy it.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
No worries and just thanks everybody for all all the
support messages and so forth. He's been He's been overwhelmed
by all. So that's great, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Sex got the email yesterday. Looks like my sky burl
is going up again. My initial response to that was,
I really you want another teen twelve percent of me?
What for? And then I looked down the list and
thought you know, if I'm being really honest, it's still
represents it's very good value for money. It does for
(11:11):
me because I'm in the sport broadcasting business. I have
to have Sky to keep up with the play. But
I'm also a massive fan of Formula one, of Rugby,
Union of golf. I want to see all those things
and I want them at my fingertips. And for the
amount of money I'm paying, I really can't complain. I've
got a sneaking suspicion the reason that this increase has happened,
(11:35):
because they happen with alarming regularity. I think Sky have
probably signed a deal with New Zealand Rugby which will
invariably cost them more, which means it will cost us
more because they always pass it back to the consumer.
But that's okay, right, So I think this is a
(11:55):
harbringer of a new contract for Sky and the All Blacks.
And if that is the case, and I can't back
this up with anything concrete, I suspect this is the case.
I'm very pleased to Sky, I'm pleased for the All Blacks.
I'm pleased for New Zealand at Rugby. It is the
absolute pinnacle of sport broadcasting. In this country. This is
(12:18):
the diamond. This is the contract that everybody wants, and
for Sky to secure that and keep us all calm
and steady, along, of course with the cricket coverage that
they have already secured, this represents great value for money,
good news for Sky and quite frankly good news for
the customer out in case you're wondering, they don't give
(12:40):
it to me for free? Right, This is not a
party political broadcast. I pay just like the rest of you.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
We are now in session on.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Sports, and to the chamber we go where we find
a crestfallen vern Cotter. Well, he's not with us, but
a crest fall and fallen vern Cootta.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Will we call him crestfallen?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
He's without Boden Barrett for four to six weeks. Where
where will that sit on vern Coott's emotional scale?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Well, i'd understand why he'd be hiding in the chamber
with us. This is not great news for him and
his prospects. But in saying that, look it's got Harry Plummer.
He's not hardly choppl lid of that bloke, is he?
Speaker 2 (13:15):
No, he's well, he guided the Blues to a super
Rugby Championship last season, of course, But I guess you
think to yourself, well, is a team better with Boden
Barrett in it or with Boden Barrett not in as?
Speaker 4 (13:27):
And I guess, well has he been so far the season?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Look at the Boden Barrett, what he's achieved, what he
hasn't achieved. He's hardly set the world on fires.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
He Well, he had a really good first half last week,
didn't he?
Speaker 2 (13:36):
And he scored that try And I think we were
starting to see in the in the eventual loss of
the Brumbies that he was starting to find that form
starting at first five actually for the first time this season.
So look, I think he was starting to get back
to it. A hand fracture is just niggly, isn't it,
because you don't know. I mean, the four to six
weeks could be four, it could be six. It might
(13:58):
even be a bit more. But regardless of all of that,
the Blues will have to try and turn around what's
been a pretty stuttering season does without one of their
main men.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah, I didn't mean to criticize Bowden Bower because we
know when that counts he will stand up. So you know,
teething problems early season. He'd have been fine later on
on the piece. But if you're relying on defending your
title based on the exploits of one player, you're in
a power pop. And I'm sure that Stern Vern, who's
no longer mirthful vern Cotta, knows that he's got bigger
(14:27):
fish to fry than worrying about where his pivot's going
to be and how long he's going to be injured for.
You just can't focus like that, surely.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
No, it's got Stephen Petafetta two coming back into the
mix hes off the bench against the Chiefs on Saturday night,
so he does have another option there should he decide
to use Stephen Petofetta in that perfect role. So yeah,
big game coming up. I don't know whether you can
answer this question to us, but the Blues are playing
the Chiefs on Saturday night for the second time in
five weeks.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Because that's the Super Rugby draw. That's the best answer
I can give you, the most obvious one, ain't. Why not?
Then people are re enthused about Super Rugby. This is
one of the tremendous clashes. So it happened again in
a short amount of time doesn't matter. Nah, I don't
think so. People are keen as about super Rugby strike
while the iron is hot.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
Yeah, I see.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Even as she was saying that, I'm thinking to myself, well,
I'm gonna bloody watch it, watch it on Saturday night.
So it's actually very good scheduling if you're just taking
a survey of one and that's me into accounts.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Can we talk some boxing.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Joseph Parker was supposed to fight Daniel Dubois two or
three weeks ago.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
That fight did not take place.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Dubois pulled out pretty late in the piece with a
supposed illness.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
And now, rather than.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Do the you know, the do the right thing morally
and say to Joseph Parker, okay, let's reschedule, he's gone
off and started talks with Alexander Usik. So Parker is
gonna have to watch those two go at it.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
It really brings a lot of muscle to the arm
of the only reason you didn't fight Parker is because
you wanted to reunify all of these belts and there
was a chance that explosed of Joseph was going to
melt you and you didn't want that, so you fled.
You basically up and ran away. Now, whether there's it
in truth to that or not, but now this latest
(16:11):
situation where the fight's not going to be rescheduled, you go, No,
that was definitely the truth. That was an avoidant play
because he wants to fight for the title and Ousick.
We don't know if it's happening yet, but I expect
it would be to be a massive payday.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Right, yeah, but what excuse me? When does it leave
Joseph Parker?
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Does it just leave him on the outside looking in,
knowing that unfortunately he's not as big a name as
either Daniel Dubois or Alexander Husick.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Well, he could think that. He could think I'm not
as big a name, but it also think they're all
terrified of me. So fine, run and hide. I'll come
and get you eventually, don't you worry about that. I'm
sitting here lurking, and I think they both know that.
Where he goes with his next fight on scheduled, we
don't know yet, But I think with Joe, like a
lot of fighters, the more active they are, the better
(17:01):
they are. And when you look at Joe Parker and
his last handful of fights, He's had a lot of
time between scraps, still turned up with the goods, which
says a lot for his training schedule, his diet, everything
else about his camp. Even if he has to wait,
he can still turn up with full effect. So he's
a patient man, Joe Parker. He's been patient to wait
for his time to come back again. And it's a virtue,
(17:23):
I'm told, not that I reflect that in any way
shape or for me.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I was going to say, you have to take other
people's having spent some time with you on Yeah, I
mean you are lots of things patient. Look on occasion
you are, We're digressing. Look, am I being too logic
would suggest if Usik beats du Bois, then Parker might
have a shop a shot at usk or am I
just being far too logical for the And he said
(17:48):
two more fights.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Basically he'succeed a couple more on I'm out. So if
he can defend his belt, there might be a chance
or his belts, there might be a chance to go.
You know what, I'm going to retire unbeaten. I've done
what I need to do. There's no point in blemishing
my copybook, and that might be more than likely although
you'd expect for the grand outing Saudi rams and go,
(18:09):
oh god, give us one warning shot. Why don't you
be an understand it Usik. Once he's punched you bar
on the face to great success, he'll go, I actually
don't need to do this anymore. I've made my mark
of proven myself and I've got all four straps back again.
That's what he wanted. That's his goal.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yet, Yeah, and that would be twenty four unbeaten fights,
including beating Tyson Fury twice, Anthony Joshua twice, Derek Gizora,
and if he beats Dubois again, that would be Dubois twice.
So yeah, you kind of think to yourself, what else
has he got to do. He doesn't have to fight
Joseph Parker, does he? No?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
But what happens if that does actually transpire. Suddenly there's
going to be a whole of the straps up for
grabs because old mate's going to walk away from the game,
and there's going to be this huge tussle at that
next level down amongst the boxes, the pugilists he talked
about before, to try and get in there and have
a crack at one of those straps, So the waters
(19:04):
will open, the sea will divide. Should Usik beat up
to bar and leave?
Speaker 4 (19:09):
All right? We wake with we wake with patients.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
You just hang on and we'll see what transpires with
the world of protests.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Were you going to give me that patience for because
Andrew Webster tried that on me this week. You've got
to show, but show any patients.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
I want winds Now, it's the it's the instant gratification
that you're desiring.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Sometimes it's the ADHD. I can blame my chemical makeup.
That's what I can blame. And I'm going to.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
All right, fair enough. On that note, we shall depart
the chamber.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
We're back in here tomorrow talking about a massive sporting weekend,
including quite a bit on Liam Lawson. But for now
we will slam the door on the chamber. Come on, vern,
out we go. And on that note, we'll finish the
Sports Books podcast for today Thursday, March thirteen. But as
I just mentioned, a fresh episode tomorrow, jam packed with
preview material for the weekend ahead.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Does well.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
It's a big weekend and for a number of reasons
in sport we know this. We've all I've got the
thing that we love that. We're looking forward to. I'm
going to super glue myself to the couch. I'm going
to watch all I can when it comes to practice,
and then all of our qualifying and then all of
the races at the perfect time. The Formula One season
twenty twenty five gets underway Albert Park in Melbourne. Liam
(20:28):
Lawson finally gets to take a decent car around the track.
It's an understatement, so I'm excited.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
I can tell. I can tell.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
We're back on the Sports Fixed podcast tomorrow and for
more from news Talks head be Sportlessen to Darcy tonight
and every weeknight between seven and eight on Sports Talk
apart from Monday when I get given a go there
and on weekend Sport with Me between midday and three
Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
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