Welcome to Gospel Talks Podcast! We help Christians all over the world become more effective in relational evangelism and discipleship. Gospel Talks belongs to the Exchange which exists to train Christians and Churches in relational evangelism and discipleship. Jeff Musgrave is the founder and author of the Exchange Bible Study, Giving the Exchange, and Living the Exchange. Our books will equip you to reach your neighbors, friends, and coworkers with the gospel of Jesus Christ. Subscribe and follow for the latest episodes. Submit any questions you have in the comment section. Thank you for listening!
In the final part of our 3-part series with Abundant Life Podcast co-hosts Ben Arellano and Saso Mendez, we explore the heart of relational evangelism in a broken world.
From the secular workplace to the addictions ministry of Freedom That Lasts, Ben and Saso open up about what it looks like to love people intentionally, share the gospel urgently, and recognize the soul beneath the surface — whether it’s a fentanyl addict or an HVAC...
In this follow-up to Episode #50, George continues the conversation with Ben Arellano and Saso Mendez to dive deeper into how The Exchange Bible study has become a powerful tool for evangelism and discipleship in their ministry.
From awkward first meetings to salvations in parking lots, this episode is full of real-life stories showing how God uses willing hearts to guide the lost. You’ll hear how relational evangelism creates space...
In this episode, George sits down with Ben Arellano and Saso Mendez — co-hosts of the Abundant Life Podcast — to reflect on God’s sovereign work in friendship, evangelism, and discipleship. What began as two men growing in Christ has grown into a ministry that reaches across the globe, not for their glory, but for the glory of the One who saves.
Podcast: Gospel Talks
Hosts: George Binoka & Jeff Musgrave
Episode Date: June 3, 2025
In this stirring episode of Gospel Talks, George Binoka and Jeff Musgrave explore the eternal significance of gospel-centered relationships. Drawing from Luke 16 and the parable of the unjust steward, they unpack Jesus’ radical call to leverage our temporal resources—time, talent, and treasure—for eternal gain. The discus...
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In this episode, George Binoka and Jeff Musgrave unpack Jesus’ metaphor of salt—not as a compliment to human decency, but as a powerful spiritual calling. Believers are meant to live in such a way that people around them become spiritually thirsty—for the living water only Christ can give.
You’ll learn how God is already at work in people’s hearts, how to join His mission effectively, and why authentic relationships are esse...
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In this episode of Gospel Talks, George Binoka and Pastor Jeff Musgrave dive deep into the biblical and practical foundations of relational evangelism. Using Acts 11 as a model, they explore how the early Church of Antioch built bridges that led to lasting discipleship—and how we can do the same today.
You’ll learn four powerful verbs from the original Greek that reveal the natural flow of gospel relationships: s...
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In this episode of Gospel Talks, George Binoka and Jeff Musgrave dive deep into the heart of relational evangelism—how to effectively go, find, and invite people to Jesus. They share powerful stories from the mission field, training efforts across Mexico, and the importance of inviting people not just to church, but to a relationship with Christ. You’ll hear how urgency, strategy, and even a puppy can play a ...
What happens when you devote your life to a religion, only to realize you’ve never truly encountered Jesus Christ? In this powerful conversation, Cody Bentley shares his deeply personal story of growing up Mormon, wrestling with doubts, and ultimately finding true salvation through faith in Jesus.
Cody reveals the hidden struggles many within Mormonism experience — from feeling trapped in a works-based salvation model to the breakth...
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In this first episode of a new series on Gospel Talks, George Binoka and Jeff Musgrave dive into the phrase “Come and See” as a model for evangelism. Drawing from John 1, they unpack how Jesus invited others into relationship—not through argument or pressure, but through presence and personal connection. They talk about why introducing people to Jesus isn’t about having all the answers—it’s about walking with th...
What happens when a rebellious pastor’s kid, twice baptized and once broken-hearted, finds his way into a ministry built on love, listening, and relational evangelism? In this heartfelt episode, Pastor Josh Musgrave shares his powerful testimony—from preaching at two years old and chasing NFL dreams, to being mentored by his dad and the legendary Ed Nelson.
George Binoka and Josh unpack the transformat...
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In this episode of Gospel Talks, we sit down with Pastor Matt to explore his journey into ministry, the crucial role discipleship played in his growth, and the challenges of church planting. We discuss the his church planting model, the importance of longevity in ministry, and practical ways to equip believers for evangelism. Whether you're a pastor, church leader, or believer seeking to share your faith more ef...
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How do you build a ministry that multiplies disciples? In this episode of Gospel Talks, host George Binoka sits down with Pastor Brad Stilly, a seasoned Exchange trainer, to discuss the power of relational evangelism and discipleship. Pastor Brad shares his journey in ministry, the impact of coaching, and how to overcome resistance to evangelism. Whether you’re a church leader or a believer looking to be more effective ...
In this special episode of Gospel Talks, George Binoka sits down with Pastor Joel Mosier from Houston, Texas—a seasoned pastor and Exchange trainer—to discuss his journey into ministry and his passion for relational evangelism. Pastor Joel shares powerful stories of reaching his neighbors, building authentic relationships, and using The Exchange Bible study to lead people to Christ.
From coaching youth sports to starting a neighborh...
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In this episode of Gospel Talks, Jeff and George dive deep into the heart of The Exchange and why it's not merely a church growth program — it's a spiritual lifestyle shift. They explore the key differences between traditional church programs and relational evangelism, emphasizing how The Exchange equips believers to share the gospel in everyday life.
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In this episode of Gospel Talks, we discuss God’s ultimate plan for reaching people—you! There is no Plan B. You are God’s primary method for spreading the gospel and making disciples.
🔹 Multiplication vs. Addition – Why disciple-making is more impactful than mass evangelism
🔹 God Gives the Increase – Faithfulness matters more than volume
🔹 The Power of Intentionality – More time with fewer people yields greater results
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In this episode of Gospel Talks, we explore how poor communication habits can close doors to meaningful gospel conversations. Chapter 4 of Giving the Exchange focuses on key communication skills that help us show people the love of God.
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✅ The importance of showing genuine interest and concern
✅ Two key skills: Asking good questions and listening well
✅ Why going too deep too quickly can push people aw...
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In this episode of Gospel Talks, we explore how The Exchange can be a game-changer for church plants and revitalizations. Whether you're building a new church or strengthening an existing one, spiritual growth and new conversions are essential.
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🔹 Every Church Plant Needs Laborers – Matthew 9:38
Think your circumstances are holding you back from sharing the gospel? In reality, those "barriers" might just be the relationship magnets God has given you! Whether you're a stay-at-home parent navigating playdates or a professional juggling a busy schedule, the key to evangelism is finding common ground with those around you. In this episode, we unpack how everyday experiences—parenting, hobbies, challenges, and routines—can open...
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Why is sharing the gospel with family so difficult? If you’ve ever tried witnessing to a family member, you know how challenging it can be. Even Jesus Himself experienced rejection from His own family and hometown (John 4:44; John 7:1-5). But there’s hope! After His resurrection, Jesus' brothers believed and became key leaders in the early church—one even wrote the book of James.
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In this final episode of our three-part series, we shift from defending relational evangelism to building a compelling positive case for it from Scripture. Drawing on biblical principles, we explore why forming genuine relationships is essential for sharing the gospel effectively in today's culture.
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