Ep. 5043: Charlie Adelson Found Guilty

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Episode Transcript

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Well, good morning, Tuesday,November seventh, the first week of November
is in the books. Thanksgiving willbe here before you know it. It's
The Morning Show with Preston Scott.Hi, how are you. That's Grant
Allen over there in Studio one A. I am here in Studio one B

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Show five thousand and forty three.And we'll get to this date and history
in just a few minutes. Butas we like to do, we'll begin
with the little of God's word.It says in One Timothy two one and
two. First of all, thenI urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions,

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and thanksgiving be made for all people, for kings and all who are
in high positions, that we maylead a peaceful and quiet life, godly
and dignified in every way. Iadmit a shortcoming there. I don't pray

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as often as I should. Forelected leaders, I don't. I have
zero excuses. Scripture says you needto, you know. One of the
challenges that most people have with prayeris they feel as though they don't know

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what to say. I don't know, you know. And that's where taking
the Lord's prayer, our Father inheaven, how would be your name and
breaking that down and taking these otheradmonitions in scripture and applying them honestly.

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Prayer time can run a while ifyou actually do what God asked us to
do in prayer. Prayer isn't agiant wish list of me me, me,
me me. I've always viewed prayeras a time for self reflection,

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for just a moment, sometimes longerif I'm dealing with any particular emotion or
thought or issue, something where I'mseeking some wisdom and discernment. But that

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guy line of pray like this,that's what Jesus said, pray in this
manner. He didn't say word forword, although that's sort of what we've
boiled it down to, isn't it. We've kind of figured, Okay,
our Father in Heaven and Hell,it would be thy name, and we
check that box. All right,I've said my prayers for the day.
I think we need to be challengedto just go a little deeper. Our

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Father in Heaven, holl it wouldbe your name. What are the different
names of God? What are thedifferent attributes of God that we can be
thankful for and express our thanks andappreciation. Your Kingdom Come, Your will
be done. On earth as itis. Have you ever noticed that God's

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will is established in heaven? Butwe have choice. We're in that prayer,
we're asking for God's will as it'sa stableishlished to reveal itself on earth
as it already is in heaven.And so that's the little dynamic tug of

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war that's underweigh all the time.We are given the freedom to choose to
be obedient or disobedient to what Godsays to us in his word. It's
up to us. It's up toyou. It's your call. You will
not be compelled to do anything untilthe end at judgment, when every knee

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will bow and every tongue will confessthat Jesus is Lord. This scripture is
reminding us that in your time ofprayer, remember to lift up yes,
especially those that we disagree with.It's up to them at that point if

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they bow their knee and their heartand their mind to God. Job is
to pray. It's really the samefor all of our lives. It's up
to us whether we do what Godtells us to do, commands us to
do. Ten minutes past the hour, what an eventful day this will be.

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It's the morning Show with Preston ScottPreston Scott on news Radio one point
Sevenbusla Well, here we go.Election Day for many states. Tuesday,

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November seventh, eighteen forty eight,Americans went to the polls and elected Zachary
Taylor to the White House on thefirst nationwide presidential election day. Before then,
election day varied from state to state. Federal law required only that states
hold it sometime during a thirty fourday period before the first Wednesday in December,

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when the Electoral College met. Astrains in telegraph wires brought speedier communication,
officials grew concerned that people in latevoting states would be influenced by results
in early voting states, so Congressdesignated the first Tuesday after the first Monday

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in November in years divisible by fouras the day for electing the president.
Why that particular time, According tothe Federal Election Committetion, November was a
good month for voting in a mainlyagrarian republic. The autumn harvest was over,

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so farmers had more time to goto the polls. In most places
in early November, the weather wasstill mild enough to get over rough roads.
Why Tuesday, people often had totravel a good distance to reach the
county seat where they voted. Mondayjust did not make a good election day,
since it would require some people tobe traveling on Sunday, interesting a

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consideration of the Lard's Day, whichwould interfere with church activities, So lawmakers
went with Tuesday. Why the Tuesdayafter the first Monday? One explanation is
that lawmakers wanted to make sure electionday never fell on the first of November

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all Saints Day, a holy dayfor Catholics. But the main reason was
that in so some years, thefirst Tuesday in November would fall more than
thirty four days before the final firstWednesday in December when the Electoral College met.
Lawmakers therefore chose the first Tuesday afterthe first Monday in November so as

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to not conflict with existing law.I bet you didn't know most all of
that. That's just that's fascinating.Eighteen seventy four cartoon by Thomas Nast in
Harper's Weekly. It is the firstto depict the Republican Party as an elephant

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which never forgets. Nineteen sixteen,Republican Jeannette Rankin of Montana becomes the first
woman elected to Congress. How aboutthat a Republican go figure. Nineteen forty
four, FDR defeats Thomas Dewey towin an unprecedented fourth term in office.
That was a bad move by ourcountry, allowing a guy to hold office

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for four terms. Oh and innineteen eighty nine in Virginia, Democrat Douglas
Wilder becomes the first African American electedgovernor of a US state. So there
you have it. Today in theprogram, we have a notable big story

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in the press box. We'll talkto Carl Steinbeck and an old friend,
Francisco Gonzales, is in town talkingabout a new book, The American Dream
is a terrible thing to lose.He is the founder and CEO of something
called Fearless Journeys, and he'll joinus in studio next hour. I think
he used to work with the JamesMadison Institute back in the day. I

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think my memory holds correctly. Hehasn't been on the show in fifteen years,
eighteen years, something like that.And course much more here on the
Morning Show with Preston Scott. It'skind of a big deal Kevin's seventh Annual

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Southern Game Fair. It starts onThursday Night runs through the eleventh exclusive events
designed to raise some money for TallTimbers Research Station at some other projects.
Your opportunity to see some places andsome plantations in the area you've probably never
seen before. Now some of it, some of the specific little events inside

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the main event are sold out already, but you can still get tickets and
get involved, and you'll also geta chance to meet some reps from some
of the really good outfitters of Kevin's. You'll also get a chance to meet
Kevin of course himself, but Hollandand Holland, Biretta, Benelli, USA,
gun Works, Stints and Arms allwill have reps at the event.

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Last year, they raised seventy thousanddollars for Tall Timbers Research. Today they've
raised nearly a half million for differentprojects as well. So to get tickets,
all you do is go to kevinscatalogdot com Kevin's catalog dot com.

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Simple as that, So get outthere and enjoy it. Speaking of being
outdoors, you ever been a hiker. I've never been much of a hiker.
Yeah, I like it? Yeah? How so? I mean,
do you just like pick a trailor you go to it like a park,

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with a noted trail and you haveyou ever done anything like hiked part
of the Appalachian Trail or anything likethat. Not that, but there's a
ton of hiking trails like up aroundkind of Meridian Park for Meadows area.
There's a ton of stuff back inthere that I've done before. It's fun
and there are certainly areas and wetalked a few weeks ago about Helen,

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Georgia. There are some notable hikingadventures up there, waterfalls in the whole
nine yards, I mean, prettygood stuff. Apparently a hiker went to
Canada's mount from fromme from from ehCanada and had to be rescued from a

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cliff. He attempted to climb themountain from Kennedy Falls area, which officials
said there are no trails there,very steep with cliff bands throughout. The
site was a site of a previousfatality. They couldn't find the guy because
it was covered by dense fog.He was not prepared, he did not

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have a flashlight, he was notprepared for any weather that popped up.
They were able to rescue the guy. He was following Google. He was
following a nonexistent trail that Google Mapshad outlined for him. And this is
the second story like this recently wherea hiker has gotten totally lost because they

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were following some trail that did notexist, and apparently efforts to reach out
to Google Maps about this have notyielded results yet. Gee, what a
shock. I mean, I'm guessingthe only way that you get to Google
is to show up at their actualphysical place and hope that you can get

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in. But even that would bea shot in the dark, because I
doubt you can get in. There'sno phone number. So how do you
make a correction like that when evenyou know officials are trying to say,
h yeah, we have a problemhere. There is no such trail that
you have listed. Rescue group said, it is simply not appropriate to navigate

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in the wilderness using urban street mapprograms like Google Maps. So I mentioned
the story because I know first asI look at the clock, I know
that there are hunters up, becausehunters get up early. They're early risers.
Generally, business owners are early risers, and business owners oftentimes have a

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little discretionary income, and so they'reinto other things. They'll go hunting,
they'll go fishing, some will gohiking, they'll go on these adventure type
tracks. I'm all for it,just don't use Google Maps. And in
fact, didn't we do a storyback in the last month or so of
someone who drove off a cliff andhis wife was drove off a road that

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did not have the fact that thebridge was washed out and the road was
decommissioned like ten or twelve years ago, and it was still an active road
on Google Maps. The guy's drivingat night, he's trying to find his
way somewhere, and he ends updriving off off the bridge that's not there.
Dies. So I'm just saying it'swhy I don't I don't get off

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the beaten path very much. IfI'm driving somewhere, I'm sticking to roads
that I know. And that's oneproblem with the mapping programs out there.
Fastest route too, and they'll takeyou down these little side roads and alleyways
because it's faster. But they needto have a default setting that says main
roads, Please keep me on mainroads, interstates, whatever state highways,

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US highways and interstates. That's whatthere needs to be, that kind of
default. Twenty seven past the Hour, the big story in the press box.
Next, it's the Morning Show withPreston Scott. Well, thirty five

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minutes past, we have a verdict. Jury spent just over three hours.
In fact, the word we gotwas that the jury took more time to
deliberate over the guilt of Sigfredo Garcia, the guy who pulled the trigger in

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murdering Dan Markel, than this jurytook thinking about Charlie Edelson. This is
a win for Justice. This MorningShow with Preston Scott. I'm Preston.
That's Grant. Big story in thepress box, brought to you by Custom

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Care Dry Cleaning. As has beensaid, there are no winners other than
Justice. Markel's don't win. They'velost their son and who knows what in
the world whend he's gonna do.We'll get to all of that. Carl

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Steinbeck will join us tomorrow morning.I have later on this morning rather and
tomorrow morning, I have a blogup that shows the verdict, shows Charlie
being brought in. He was clearlytold the verdict before the verdict was announced.

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He was sick to his stomach,his face was flushed. I get
it. It's the first time Charliedidn't win. Bragged about being so smart

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figuring stuff out. Georgia Kapelman's closingarguments yesterday were brilliant. As much as
I felt like some of her crossexamination of Charlie wasn't her best, her
summary with Charlie was and her closingwas flawless, methodical, no emotion,

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fact fact fact fact, fact,fact fact, using Charlie's own words,
using common sense the defense. Iwas asked on the panel last night.

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I joined the panel about fifty minutesinto the discussion on Surviving the Survivor on
YouTube Live last night. I've beenon there a couple of times regarding this
case. I was asked my thoughtswhen the defense attorney I think it's Daniel

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Rashbaum, suggested that Charlie was beingextorted, that they got the murderers,
but not Charlie was a victim too. I laughed at that notion because I
knew the evidence that they had onCharlie and Katie's relationship. Katie Magbanua is

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the young lady that is serving lifein prison for her role in linking Charlie
Adelson to Sigfredo Garcia and Luis Rivera. It's such a simple case, but
it's circumstantial, but Charlie was foundguilty first degree murder, guilty conspiracy to

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commit first degree murder, guilty solicitationto commit first degree murder. He will
spend the rest of his life inprison. But is Donna Adelson, Wendy

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and Charlie's mother going to be arrestedand indicted next And what about Wendy.
We'll talk about that next hour.Find more on his vlog WFLA FM dot
com keyword preston. Sorry, theblog just left. We just went live

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now, so it'll pop up onthe page. Just refresh your homepage at
w FLAFF dot com with WFLA PanamaCity dot com and you can watch the
episode. It features our guest CarlSteinbeck. Carl was on there for a
while, then he jumped off.I kind of jumped in. Then I

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had to go to bed and Carlcame back. Local attorney Tim Jansen was
there and waded in throughout as waswell regarded Jerry consultant Richard Gabriel, and
also included is the council for LuisRivera, Monica Jordan, and so she

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had some very interesting insight on this. She's been in the case and so
you know a lot of people sayingLuis Rivera gets twenty years, that's it.
Well he's serving while he's serving anothercharge. He didn't pull the trigger.

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Everything he said was corroborated, thingsthat people didn't even know, like
the floorboard of the Preus being shotwith an accidental discharge by Sigfredo Garcia.
He accidentally shot the floorboard of thePreus car they rented and shot a hole
through the fuel line. Had tostop and repair it. I mean comic

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stuff. But you think about thetwo boys of Dan Markel Now who within
a short period of time after theirdad's death, they get their last name
changed. They're now early teenagers ortweeners. One's going to be thirteen fourteen,

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the other is gonna be twelve thirteen, old enough to start figuring things
out. Uncle Charlie is in jailfor the rest of his life. Is
going to be in prison for settingup and participating in the murder of their
dad. I believe Grandma Donna isnext. I don't think they have a

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case against Harvey. Are they ona watch list for fleeing the country.
They've been put on a federal nofly list. Perhaps Wendy perhaps. I
think the case against Donna's ironclad.I think the case against Wendy probably not

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the major charges, probably lesser charges, at the very least perjury. Her
immunity deal doesn't cover perjury. Ibelieve they can prove that she lied under
oath. What charges beyond that,I don't know. We'll ask Carl.

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Significant case, as is the caseof Abby's werner. You might not know
the name. She is the teacherin Virginia that was shot by a six
year old student back in January.Remember that multiple surgeries. She has been
approved by a judge in a fortymillion dollar lawsuit against school administrators. Newport's

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Circuit Court judge Matthew Hoffman ruled thatshe can get significantly more than workers comp.
School system argued that's all she wasentitled for. Tried to block the
lawsuit, but that's not going tohappen. She wants forty million, ten
years of pay lifetime medical care.Why because rich Neck Elementary School and the

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superintendent had been warned that a youngman was carrying a gun. This young
man had behavioral issues and had hadmultiple encounters regarding school discipline, and they
did nothing, and so a sixyear old shows up with a gun.
He's not playing with it. Hetook aim as the teacher was seated and

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shot her. We've crossed over intothe twilight zone somewhere here forty six minutes
past the hours The Morning Show withPreston Scott. Welcome to the Morning Show
with Preston Scott. Fifty one minutespast the hour, Tuesday, on the

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Morning Show with Preston Scott. Goodto be with you this morning. Grant
Allen over there running the radio program. Francisco Gonzalez, old friend back in
the studio with us. We'll talkwith him in just a few minutes.
I peg this story here because,as you well know, I have been

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sharing with you, first of all, what I thought was tip of the
Iceberg stuff. Now you know,we have Peter Schweitzer on the program pretty
routinely, and Peter's a dear friendof this program and Government Accountability Institute.
Eric Eggers, of course, longtimeproducer this show, works with Peter.
He's an author now in his ownright. He does research, investigative reporting.

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With Peter, they do a podcast. I don't have that type of
ability. I'm not an investigative reporter, but what I am is I'm able
to look at certain things through thelens of just common sense, if you

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will, if you'll forgive the stretch, it's not all that different than the
Adelson case that we've been talking about. It's just common sense. My experience
as a grand juror for six monthsinformed my view of the circumstantial evidence against
Charlie Aedelson and extended to the Adelsonfamily. It's just common sense. And

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so when I came across the video, the video, the televised comments of
Joe Biden talking about his actions whenvice president in Ukraine getting a prosecutor fired,
excuse me, meddling in the affairsof another nation, and how Joe

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had positioned himself, with Barack Obama'shelp and assistance and approval, as being
the lead in China and Ukraine wherehis son happened to be appointed as a
board member in industries he had zeroknowledge of. I mean, if you'd
a been a board member on prostitutionand cocaine use, okay, I'd buy

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that, but he wasn't. Andso we get this video of Joe admitting
what he did on television like he'sproud, and my immediate thought was,
that's the guy who gets so comfortablewalking in the darkness. You know,
that's what happens. You flip alight switch, it gets dark and you,

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if you hold still long enough,your eyes adjust and soon you navigate
the darkness. Pretty well. Joegot so accustomed to navigating the darkness that
he became brazen about it, braggedabout it. Well, one comes Tony
Bobolinski, business partner to Hunter andin his mind, business partner to Joe,

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and we shared much of what hehad to say in a public press
conference. Because his honor was questioned, his family's honor was questioned. He
was having none of it, andhe dropped statements, he gave, he
gave testimony, he swore out affidavits. He he was, I mean,
very forthcoming. Well, now we'vegot lawyers for Hunter Biden alleging that Babolinski

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lied. And so what did TonyBobolinski do over the weekend? He dropped
this hammer. He said, I'dlike to publicly, I'm paraphrasing, challenge
Joe Hunter and James Biden to joinme in under oath testimony before Congress.
And let's just let's just see howthis goes. He is openly now challenging

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Congress to bring them all all infor testimony. And if he does,
I can promise you what's gonna happen. As as much as I cannot get
my brain around the fact that westill have people that are defending Joe,
that think Joe's doing a great job, my mind doesn't go there. It

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doesn't allow that level of You've gotto be kidding me, It just doesn't.
It's again, it's like people say, oh, Charlie didn't do anything.
Well, of course he did.Stop it. He was extorted.
Oh stop it. His defense attorneyshould give a refund. It's terrible.
Not so bad that it's gonna winon appeal, but just ridiculous that said

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Tony Bobolenski will share whatever he hasto say without notes. He won't need
him. Why because you don't neednotes for the truth. You don't need
rehearse statements, you don't need tomemorize anything. You don't need to think
about what you said the last timeyou were Wait, what it does say?

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No, just the truth. It'ssuch a it's such a cleansing thing.
The truth is. And so we'llsee what happens now. The claim
is that Tony Bobilinski lied to theFBI. Tony Bobolinski's called that bluff,
and now we'll see what happens.We go to our number two, Francisco
Gonzalez. The American Dream is aterrible thing to lose. We'll talk about

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the book next. Hey, goodmorning, and welcome to the second hour
of the morning show Repressed. It'sGod. I happen to be preston Go

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Figure Show five thousand and forty three. That's another Go Figure for you.
Don't understand it, But I'm gratefuland blessed and humbled to be here with
you each and every morning. GranAllen over there running the radio program,
and I am joined this half hourin studio by Francisco Gonzalez, an old
friend of mine. Not an oldold man, but an old friend.

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And we've known each other quite awhile, but we haven't talked in quite
a while. How are you good? Pressing? Good to be with you,
and nice to be back in Tallahassee. Give everybody just a quick snapshot
of how the intersection worked back inthe day, how the intersection between you
and I. Yeah, well,of course I worked at the James Madison
Institute for nine years here you go, and then you and I really I

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think intersected more when this little thingcalled the tea party started. Yeah,
and I actually organized the very firsttea party here in Tallahassee, and actually
on April fifteen, two thousand andnine, we had over two thousand people
at the state Capitol. I said, I got to have one man be
my keynote speaker, and I wasPreston Scott. And then you took it
over the next year. Yeah,yeah, sure we did. Oh man,

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all right, Fearless Journeys. Youare the founder and CEO. Tell
us about that before we get tothis book. Well, Preston, you
know, over the last eight yearsor so, I tried to get into
your space, not on the radio, but in podcasting. Yeah. So,
I actually, as I was workingat JMI, I would come across
a lot of great entrepreneurs and businesspeople all over the state, all over

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the country, and I kept walkingaway from a lot of those stories really
fascinating and saying I wish more peoplecould learn that person story. And one
day, as I was thinking that, I was turning on a podcast and
I thought maybe I could have apodcast. So I started one called Agents
of innovation. And I've had nowover one hundred and thirty three episodes of
the podcast as of this date,so it's spanned over eight years. And

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you know, really about two yearsago actually during COVID when we had this
worldwide pause. I was working forNational Review Institute at the time, and
you know, I wasn't doing asmuch traveling as I've no traveling as nobody
was doing, so kind of hadsome time to think about some of these
things I was doing on the side, such as writing and podcasting and traveling,
and I thought I'd put together acommunity, which is called Fearless Journeys

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now where we really do something beyondthe podcast. We have group coaching sessions
with some of the great innovators thatI've had on the podcast. Okay,
so over fifty of my guests havenow joined the community as featured innovators,
and every month we do monthly groupcoaching sessions. We've got a book club.
We're diving deep into a lot ofself growth stuff. But also the
fun part, maybe the most funpart, is we do some great group

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trips. So I've led some grouptrips down to Guatemala, Columbia, Uruguay,
Argentina, even Nashville, and onour trips we go and we do
all the fun stuff, but wealso meet with a lot of local entrepreneurs,
so you can get inspired by people. People you're traveling with and people
you're meeting with that live in thoselocal places. Is the idea of those
trips to find nuggets in these foreigncountries or is it to bring nuggets to

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them or both? You know alittle bit of both. For me,
I just always love traveling, andI think travel helps Once you go somewhere,
it gives you a different perspective.You know. I'd done three group
trips to Guatemala, lived in Guatemalaby the way for a year, and
was teaching at a free market universitythere, Francisco Metekeen University. It's it's

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really a fabulous place. But Ibrought some of my travelers that I'm telling
you on every single one of thetrips. By day two or three,
you always hear somebody on the tripsay, Wow, people really need to
get out and see the see theworld, because this is a what I'm
experiencing in Guatemala right now is totallydifferent than what I see on the news
right and so you know, whenyou think of Guatemala, you're probably thinking

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dangerous, You're thinking migrants, peopleare leaving. It must be a world
country, right, But you gothere, it's a beautiful place, the
most hospitable people in the world.And we just introduce you to these incredible
entrepreneurs and and so so then youget inspired, and then you also,
you know, get you get tocome back and think about what can I
be doing with my life, maybesomething a little bit different that I found

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a connection with someone here on thistrip. Francisco Gonzale is with me talking
about Fearless Journeys. He's the CEOand founder. Will tell you how to
link up with that if you're interested. But when we come back, I
misquoted the name of the book.It's The American Dream. Is a terrible
thing to waste. I think wastehas a little bit more of a kind

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of thing than lose. I mean, lose is well see if by waste
is this kind of disintegration and prettypowerful word, but it says volume one.
We're going to find out what thisis all about next on the Morning
Show with Preston Scott. Preston Scott, I got bad thought on News Radio
one HINT seven Double UFLA eleven minutespast the hour here on the Morning Shaw

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with Preston Scott Francisco Gonzalez my guesthere in the studio. Before we get
to the book, Francisco I askedoff air the Fearless Journeys, who's that
specifically targeting? Who does it help? You know? Really, when I
started it was it was really gearedtowards thinking about somebody who wanted either as
an entrepreneur or wants to be anentrepreneur. And when we think of that,

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we think of somebody who wants tostart a business. Right, Well,
starting a business is really difficult.Believe me, I've now done it,
and so getting into it more andI thought, you know what most
people are This is going to bevery challenging for most people to start a
business, especially where they're at intheir life, maybe at this particular moment
in their life. But you knowwhat everybody can do. Everybody can build
an entrepreneur's mindset and so and thatneeds to come before you ever start a

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business, before you ever become anactual entrepreneur. So whether you decide to
start a business one day or not, building an entrepreneur's mindset can help you
in any career path you choose,whether in it now or in the future.
You just go to the website Fearlessjourneys dot org. Thank you just
looked it up Fearless journeys dot organd you can learn more there. Did

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this book, The American Dream Isa Terrible Thing to waste? Volume one?
Did it come out of all ofthis or what was the impetus to
write the book? The impetus really? Uh? As I was getting you
know, I was about seventy eightyepisodes into my podcast and I actually talked
to myself, Gosh, I'm gonnahit one hundred episodes at some point here,
maybe I should do something interesting andwhat doing the episodes? Where that

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wasn't interesting enough? Well, youknow, and I actually started writing blog
posts about every episode from episode one, not ever thinking I was gonna write
a book, but I said,let me one of the things. As
well as after you have fifty sixtyseventy episodes, you get a lot of
questions, what are you learning,what's the common themes? What's the number
one thing? So I thought maybeI could actually you know, study all
those episodes, study go back andthink about what are the common threads,

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and so at the beginning of thebook, I put together ten common characteristics
of the entrepreneur from these one hundredplus episodes. Volume one features forty five
of the stories of the people thatare on the podcast, and I could
not fit one hundred stories in onebook, So there will be at least
another maybe three volumes, I'd say, coming from just uncovering those first hundred

(39:00):
people I've had on the podcast.Who is this target the book? Yeah,
you know, really anybody, ButI think so it makes a great
Christmas gift, It really does.But I think what I found from people
who have read it already is it'sjust it gives people hope. So,
whether you're a young person and you'reanxious about whether the American dream is still

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possible, or whether you're somebody nearingretirement and you're not sure where the country's
direction is heading for the next generation, I think reading these stories will show
you these are everyday Americans. Mostof the people in this book you probably
haven't heard of. Now, there'sabout five in Tallahassee here. Maybe some
people have heard of Jamie Grant,who used to lead just until recently the

(39:45):
Florida Digital Services He was the state'schief information Officer. I had him on
by the Way four years before hewas in that position. Doctor Stam Staley,
who teaches social entrepreneurship over at FSUand is a writer and author himself.
Matt Ferrar, Joe Clements, wholead the UH, the Digital Technology
Group here in Florida or here inTallahassee. I should say, they're all

(40:09):
going to be by the Way tonightat the book signing I'm doing. We'll
talk about that in a minute.But a lot of great other people have
had on the podcast that are localhere, like Aaron Choy, who leads
the you know, the States whatis it, the Florida Alliance to End
Human Trafficking m H So, alot a lot of great people here in
Tallahassee here in this book, alot of people that have come across in

(40:30):
my life. We've got a formerwell, former Orlando City soccer player who
now plays for the Chicago Fire,Chris Mueller. He started a book club
during the middle of COVID. Ithought that was interesting. So we've got
a lot of great stories. Sothere are some people you might know in
this book, but there's a lotof people you probably haven't heard of,
but you're going to relate to.I think that those are the most compelling

(40:51):
stories because so many people that weknow, we have a preordained idea on
what they're all about, whatever theirformula might be or their thoughts might be.
It's the other stories I think they'regripping. Yeah, Francisco Gonzalees with
me for one more segment. We'lltalk about that book signing. Dig a
little deeper into this book and someof the things that might be common threads
between the profiles inside of it.Sixteen minutes past the hour of The Morning

(41:15):
Show with Preston Scott. Twenty oneminutes past the hour. Francisco Gonzalees with
me, and he's the CEO,founder of Fearless Journeys and Fearless Journeys dot
org. Easy to find that thebook is the American Dream is a terrible
thing to waste. It's interesting youand I were talking about Guatemala and the

(41:39):
hunger for entrepreneurship and the desire tolearn about these principles. Are we wasting
them here? You know? Ithink that one of the reasons I titled
it that was that there's a lotof anxiety right now about the American dream.
I mean, obviously, we havedifficult economic situations right now, in

(41:59):
flation, potential recession, there's AIon the move, there's a lot of
displacement of jobs. There's a lotof anxiety. But one of the things
I really position in this book isif you it doesn't matter the economic challenges,
it doesn't matter the political challenges.Those things have an impact, don't
get me wrong. But if youcan build an entrepreneur's mindset, you can

(42:22):
succeed. And that's what these peoplethat I've interviewed and all these different entrepreneurs
I've interacted with have done. Theyjust overcome every obstacle put in their way.
I was going to ask you,is there like a single common thread
that all of these guests that you'vetalked about and write about have you know?
I say one thing when somebody askedme that it is their mindset.

(42:45):
Wait, I wasn't the first personever asking that question. It is their
mindset, Preston, Like, whenyou talk to people, it's like they
don't understand the idea of failure.They all have failed at things. Every
single entrepreneur has failed many times butthey don't get down about it necessarily,
maybe for a moment, but theyjust learn through their failure and they reapply

(43:07):
it to the next thing they're goingto do well. It's like the old
adage, being a failure is notsomething that we are, it's that we
fail. And there's a big difference. We have a generation maybe two that
are kind of growing up with theidea that their failures and they don't understand
that that's part of the process.But we've kind of insulated a few generations

(43:29):
from the from the consequences. Wedon't let them fail, right, And
so when you look through this andyou find these common threads, are there
others that stand out? Oh?Yeah, Well the number one thing is
I think every entrepreneur is a problemsolver. I mean, think about every
successful business. They're solving some problemyou have. Maybe your lawn is to

(43:49):
you know, it needs to becut. Someone solving that problem, right,
Maybe you're hungry. McDonald's solving thatproblem. They got great real estate
by the way, right, Soit's every think about you're driving to work
today. I don't care if you'reif you own your own business or whatever
you're doing. How can you howcan you be a problem solver for someone
today? How can you be asolution? So is it as simple as

(44:09):
saying that the entrepreneur's mindset can befostered by just looking at your life as
it is right now, not beyondsome distant horizon, and saying, okay,
help me solve issues right here now. Yes, absolutely, you know,
building a mindset of being a curiousperson, right, I mean,

(44:30):
entrepreneurs are people who are always askingquestions, they're discovering things. They have
that like childlike curiosity. And soif you can think about how how can
you be a little bit more curious? And by the way, maybe in
volume two this might come out asa new characteristic, but what is really
the foundation of curiosity? That's humility, understanding that we don't know everything and

(44:52):
that there's more to learn. Andthat's also leads me to another characteristic in
there, entrepreneur. Almost every entrepreneuror I have met lifelong learners. They
whether they've gone to college or not, whether they dropped out early, they
understand that education is not limited tothe classroom. And so whether you have

(45:13):
a college degree or not, you'vegot to always be reading, You've always
got to be studying and got tobe looking at the next trends. You've
got to be going to conferences,You've got to be networking. You know,
you've just really got to be continuingto build your mind in different ways.
You said something there that sparked aquestion, and how many of these
entrepreneurs have a college degree, andhow many of them have a degree in

(45:37):
whatever it is that they're entrepreneurially successfulat. What's interesting is this was not
in any purposeful way. It justsometimes happened. I couldn't believe how many
people I interviewed either never went tocollege or didn't finish, and they never
saw that as a failure. Theyjust they were in the process of doing

(45:58):
something. Another attributerepreneurs are doers,They are people of action, and they
just maybe became successful at something.Like my friend Nathan Bond, who is
the head of rifle paper company.He started him and his wife started a
rifle paper company, a lifestyle stationarycompany based in Winter Park, Florida.
He'll be in volume two, bythe way, And so you know,

(46:19):
they just they stopped, they juststopped in the middle of college because they
saw this opportunity and what was whatwas the purpose of going back and going
in debt. The book is theAmerican Dream is a terrible thing to waste.
Volume one, five o'clock today atthe Midtown Reader. Huh. I
hope to see you all there buyingthe book and getting it signed. Yeah,

(46:42):
shake my hand. Love it.Good to see you, see you
too, Good to see you too, pressent. It's such a pleasure.
I'm so glad you're not wasting yourAmerican dream, and you are helping so
many others believe in it as well. So thanks so much. Look at
me another one who can measure thetime on a college campus on his wristwatch,
go figure. Thanks for coming by. Francisco Gonzalez with me this morning
on the Morning Show with Preston Scott. The Morning Show with Preston Scott on

(47:10):
News Radio one hundred point seven wFLA. It is the big story in
the press box here on the MorningShow with Preston Scott Show five forty three,
brought to you by Custom Care DryCleaning. I'm Preston. That is

(47:30):
Grant and Carl Steinbeck with us.In fact, so excited to talk to
us this morning. He called anhour ago to join us on the show.
Hey, Carl, Hey, goodmorning, Pat. You are doing
yeoman's work, buddy. Carl isfeatured on a YouTube channel, Jury Trial
Mentor, and you can follow thehappenings on this case as well as I'm

(47:54):
sure many others on the website.Carl course is a very prosecutor and defense
counsel. The verdict came in,you called it the timing of this.
It didn't take him long. No, it was such an awesome job done
by Georgia Kapelman. In her closing, she had all that deep dive of

(48:15):
minutia of detail in such a storylinefashion that was like a documentary or a
movie, the way all this informationwas showing up on the screen behind her
as she's walking the jury through howthis murder plot happened and how Dan mark
Hill was viciously killed her. Imade several notes as she was doing her

(48:36):
closing, and I, like you, Carl, thought it was absolutely spectacularly
brilliant. I thought it was simple, it was easy to follow, it
was chronological, it got into thedetails. I think she also made a
very important point at the beginning,But I'm curious of your thoughts of it.
She said, it only takes oneof you write to you quit this

(49:00):
guy, And so I'm going togo over all of what this evidence is
in detail. How important was thatto kind of challenge the jury? This
is on all of you. Well, I think it really took away anybody
that's already had their mind made up, because I think the case was so
strong that she was absolutely right.I have never heard a prosecutor say that

(49:22):
before. And I'm going to rememberthat because that has wrecked a great teaching
point, because you don't want tobore the jury, and that's exactly what
the defense council did, and Georgiadid the complete opposite. It was such
a masterful job. As really impressed. Besides the chronological presentation, I thought
another thing, and I'd like youto comment on this. You know,
much was made of Katie mcbanwa testifying, and she did, and quite candidly,

(49:46):
she gave a lot more information andknowledge than I thought she would bring
to the case. But Georgia didn'treally rely on Katie at all in her
closing. No. Another really greatpoint, and because the defense is trying
to make a big deal about well, you can't believe Katie. She's a
liar. She's lied so many times, nothing she says is worthwhile. But

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Georgia pointed out, it's like wedon't need to bring in her whole character
to understand what she knows and bringsa value to the case. All you
have to look at is little piecesof information she did testify, which actually
do fit the other pieces of theircase against Charlie Adelson. In case you
missed the news, Charlie Adelson hasbeen found guilty on three counts in the

(50:30):
murder of Dan Markel, first degreemurder, conspiracy to commit first degree murder,
solicitation to commit first degree murder.Carl what's the importance of all three
of those charges? Just the factthat in case the jury didn't agree on
one of them, they could findhim guilty on the others. Right,
Well, I think that that show'sconsistency number one with the other co conspirators.

(50:51):
They were brought up and convicted onall the other charges except for obviously
the first one who roll over andpled guilty and agreed to testify. So
we have those same against Katie,and we also have the same against said
creator Garcia, the trigger pullers.So it made sense to go with those
same three. And you always wantto have some backup because if for some

(51:12):
reason they holdout on the murder onecharge, then you actually have some other
lesser type included defenses that didn't actuallyultimately have to prove that the he was
behind the murder itself. So itwas a good strategy and it worked well,
and I think it also shows themomentum that now the prosecution has.
I'm going to ask the question thatI hate asking, but I feel like

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I owe it to the audience toask this question. Is there any possibility
Daniel Rashbaum offered such a ridiculous defenseand quite candily was seen in closing arguments
smiling, yawning, smirking, etcetera. Is there any chance that that's
grounds for an appeal for Charlie.No, not at all. I don't

(51:55):
see that as an issue. That'sjust different body language matters, And I
would say there was also I don'tknow if it was on view from the
television coverage, but he also liketurns his shoulder towards Charlie at times,
and Charlie was trying to give hima note or something, So there was
there was some kind of issue goingon between Charlie and Roschbaum. There for
a little bit, but it wasn'tenough, and the jury wasn't really paying

(52:19):
attention to that because they're, youknow, listening to Georgia's riveting closing,
So it was a I don't thinkthat's an issue at all. We have
a verdict in the trial of CharlieAdelson, but there are lots of questions
still remaining. We'll get to someof the next with Carl Steinbeck and again
the website Jury Trial Mentor or notwebsite, the YouTube channel. You can

(52:40):
find him on YouTube Jury Trial Mentor. Back with Carl. Next on the
Morning show, This is the MorningShow with Preston Scott's twenty two minutes past
the hour, Carl Steinbeck with me, Carl, what would you say to

(53:00):
people that are listening to this andare bored, bored with the pursuit of
justice in the murder of someone overcustody. I'm getting an email or two
from somebody saying this is boring,verdicts over whatever. Well, that's exactly
actually why I created Jerry Trout Mentor, my brother is the technical expert in

(53:22):
the host of that channel, becauseI was so outraged and he was as
well about the lack of progress andgoing after these other adole sins. It
was just so such an outrageous storywhen he told me about it, and
he got me covering this case,and so that that somebody that doesn't doesn't
have a concern for the remaining justiceagainst the other Adelsons. I have no

(53:45):
idea why they wouldn't want to seethe rest of them go down. And
actually, if you stop thinking aboutit, the prosecution's case was against Donna
and Wendy as well, and theyhave a lot more evidence against Wendy that
didn't come out in the trial,and they didn't need to, of course,
but the evidence of so compelling,and also Rachmum was defending Wendy so
much throughout the trial as well asDonna. So anyway, it's a very

(54:08):
compelling story and that's why it's gotthe national coverage. Well, and I'm
going to point out we are notdone with this story yet. I mean,
you and I are Donna as oftoday. Maybe we'll talk tomorrow about
a couple of other things, butthe fact of the matter is this case
should continue, should it not.I mean, would you be shocked if

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they did not indict at least Donnamoving forward? Yes, I do really
think Donna at a minimum and alsoWendy. Wendy, there's a lot more
circumstantial type evidence, but there isno doubt. I think this jury if
they had the other two rolled upand sitting there at the defense table as
well, they would have been convictedas well. And I think they'll go

(54:52):
back and listen to the jurors andsay, hey, what would you want
differently if we were going to havethese other two as co defendants as well?
So they're they have this great opportunityto perfect their case and go after
the other Adelshen's what do you thinkagain? I think the case with Donna
is a parallel case to Charlie inmy opinion, I said night last night

(55:13):
on the YouTube visit that you didas well with surviving the survivor. I
consider Donna the fuel to all ofthis. She left a lot of specifics
to Charlie to arrange, but shewas certainly in on all of it,
and I believe that she was thepush, she was the motivation to all
of this happening. But do youfeel for Wendy there's a first degree murder

(55:35):
charge out there or do you feelas though it's more conspiracy or related charges.
They needed key information about Dan andis whereabouts for Wendy and if he's
got to think about it. Theprosecution argued in their closing that jeffle Cause,
her boyfriend at the time all thiswent down, her boyfriend of eight

(55:58):
months, was framed and how ishe framed? He was framed to be
the fall guy and to take theblame and to try great reasonable out reasonable
doubt in case law enforcement came afterhim, and that's exactly what they did.
So it was really a two trackthing. Wendy was claiming or Wendy
targeted Jeff Lacosse to take the fall, while Charlie just started dating Katie mcvanwa

(56:22):
to be able to be a conduitto find hitman that could do that kind
of thing. So it was adual track thing like that. And it
just shows how deep down sinister andevil this plot was and also how long
it take took to develop. Sothat's why I think they got a really
strong case against both of them.Carl I've appreciated your expertise. Perhaps we'll

(56:42):
visit tomorrow. We'll see what theday holds for us. We'll see if
further indictments are coming out. Butagain, thank you so very much.
Thanks sir Carl Steinbeck with us thismorning, and again it's trial Jury,
Trial Mentor that has been covering thiscase as well. We've got a blog
up on my blog page where youcan see the reaction of Charlie Aedelson.
He was brought in knowing the verdictbefore it was announced. He knew it

(57:06):
had leaked, it had gotten tothem because, as Tim Jansen pointed out,
there are bailiffs, there are peoplethat are listening to I think it
probably took them longer to prepare thepaperwork because I think the case was so
solid. But I told you itwas going to be I told you all
along. This was the strongest circumstantialcase I had ever seen. And I'd

(57:30):
spent six months as a grand juroron Capitol murder cases years ago, and
this one trumped all of them bya factor of probably two or three.
Let's come back, move on toother things. Lots of stories in the
news. We got a manly minutestill to come on the Morning Show with
President Scott. It's the Morning Showwith Prestin Scott on News Radio one hundred

(57:53):
point seven WFLA. Fifty two minutespast the hour the Morning Show. Good
to be with you this morning.It's interesting. I had two emails over
the last ten days, eh lessthan ten days last week. I'm bored

(58:14):
with this coverage of the murder trial. Okay, okay, the last even
why are you boring us with this? Verdict is in? It's over?
No, it's not over. Andyou know I can't I can't help you

(58:35):
if you don't find this story compellingand important, I can't help you.
I don't know what to I don'tknow what to say to you. This
is a one of the highest profilemurder cases in this country's history. In
fact, this is not quite butthis is right up there with with the

(58:59):
serial killing that happened on the FSUcampus. In importance. This is right
up there with the Sims family murdersthat have been unsolved. Mike Williams his
case. I mean, you know, I mean this this is and in
this case, though, I meanin the Mike Williams case quite candidly that

(59:21):
that was a little more cut anddry. We it took forever to get
the you know, the confession ofthe killer, and he got a plea
deal because that was the only waythey were going to get anywhere. They
knew that Mike Williams didn't die theway that that, you know, everyone
thought, and bless her heart,his mom stayed the course the entire time
and faced community ridicule for staying thecourse. But she's the reason why this

(59:47):
ended up happening. But in thecase of Dan Markel, the real people
responsible are just now getting a tasteof of justice and retribution and accountability.
I mean, this is the exampleof the legal system getting it right.

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How often do we hear the narrative, well, it's just the poor and
the down trodden unit, these poorslugs who got hired to do the crime,
they get found guilty. But thewealthy, in this case, they
can afford the high powered attorneys.Right, they can get there, they
can get up, they can payfor justice. How often do we hear

(01:00:36):
that narrative? That narrative is blownup right now? Why because they're guilty.
With all due respect to the manlyminute that's coming up here. This
is this is important. There aren'tmany times where a community, which is

(01:01:00):
our community here in Tallahassee. It'snot the biggest city, it's still a
relatively smallish, kind of medium sized. You know, it's just a small
city and it's a big town.Yeah. Yeah, when you go to
the grocery store, it still feelslike high school reunion. Sometimes. You
always see people you know when you'reout and about in Tallahassee, and there

(01:01:22):
are a few times when something likegrips a community, like the Dan Markel
case has gripped this community. I'mgonna remind you he was murdered five minutes
from where we are broadcasting from.I'm just I think I put it this

(01:01:49):
way to Karen Cipher's justice never getsold. It's never too late, never.
And the reality is is there areI hope more indictments coming. I
think the only Adelson that they don'thave a strong enough case is Harvey the

(01:02:14):
father. The boys deserve the truth, The sons of Dan Markel deserve his
last name back. The Markel familydeserves the truth to come out that this
was one family's determination to just killsomebody to gain soul custody. Five minutes

(01:03:00):
past Tuesday, on the morning showat Presso Scott bottom of the hour,
Matt Staber from Liberty Council joins us, Oh no, we're gonna talk about
another case. Oh no, yeah, it's the case of Sandra Merritt,
who has been wrongfully found guilty dueto an unconstitutional law in California. In

(01:03:28):
her recording of Planned Parenthood, executivesbragging about bagging body parts from aborted babies
and selling them. I mean,I don't know. I suppose there's a
couple of you out there they'll thinkthat's just boring too whatever. I can't
help you with that, but wewelcome you to their Sorry third hour of

(01:03:50):
the Morning Show. I wanted tosay second for a second, this show
has moved way too fast. Wegot the big stories in the press box
coming up into few minutes, andof course we have one big story there,
but we'll talk about some other thingsas well. But what's your take
on this old Donald Trump circus andtrial that the judge is I mean,

(01:04:14):
talk about a predetermined verdict. Youknow, there are two cases going on
there. I agree with Jonathan Turley. Jonathan Turtley says, Look, there's
two cases being made here. Firstis the case that Letitia James is making
the way that New York law isset up. There doesn't have to be
a victim, there doesn't there doesn'thave to be a loss of money.
It's just this has been a determinedoutcome. The judge is unbelievably biased.

(01:04:40):
He's made that clear from the getgo, and so they're trying to get
Trump barred from doing business in NewYork. I'd love to see how that
would shake out before United States SupremeCourt. Don't know if it goes there.
But the second case that's going onis the one that Trump is waging,

(01:05:02):
where his popularity just grows and growsand grows, and his comments in
court are not as much to thejudge and Letitia James as they are to
the American people, and he's makinga case. He's making a very strong

(01:05:24):
case. I'm looking at a storyhere that looks at insight from Turley,
among others. He said, Trumpbeing called for testimonies like waiting for the
green flag at NASCAR, many arecoming in for car crashes, meaning the
viewers they just want to see carscrash. There's an obvious disconnect in the

(01:05:45):
testimony. Trump seemed to be speakingto the public, but neither a jury
nor a television camera was president.Instead, he was technically speaking to a
judge who repeatedly expressed with frustration thetenor and length of the answers. Now
Trump's the turn, and he wassaying repeatedly, these are open ended questions.
You're not asking yes or no questions. He's being asked open ended questions.

(01:06:09):
He has a right to answer them. Judge doesn't know what to do
with him. This judge is theworst kind of jurist. I mean,
he's just the worst, loving thelimelight, loving the opportunity to put Trump

(01:06:31):
in his place. He comes acrossas that judge that you see in a
movie or a TV sitcom that hasno control over the court, and he's
helpless. That's how he comes across. He's trying to make it seem like
he's the rule of law, andhe is to that extent in that courtroom,

(01:06:55):
except those laws are just sketchy atbest. And remember James got elected
as the Attorney General on one claim. She's gonna get Trump. That's what
she ran on. She's gonna getTrump. Andy McCarthy even said, and
McCarthy's pretty pragmatic. McCarthy said,Look, this case was decided before Trump

(01:07:18):
ever walked in. This was done, and so the headlines and how can
he be allowed on the ballot whatever, he's going to be found that he
can't do business in New York.And I'm not sure that's gonna stand.
I'm not sure that that law asit's constructed passes any level of legal tests

(01:07:42):
on its constitutionality, not with therebeing no victims, et cetera. Back
with more of the Morning Show.It's the Morning Show with Preston Scott.
Eleven minutes past the hour. Hereon the Morning Show, I mentioned yesterday

(01:08:08):
that there's a guy that I needto try to help find a job,
and it was interesting. I gotfeedback from listeners who had been in his
situation. They're former felons, they'renow successful businessmen. They didn't have a

(01:08:30):
job to offer, they certainly hadopinions to offer, both of them expressing
gratitude that I would try to helpthis person. And look, there are
all kinds of people twenty five twentyeight thousand are going to be released in
Florida this year that need to beemployed. They need to be given the

(01:08:57):
opportunity to succeed. Are all ofthem prepared? No, nope, I'm
gonna be the first one to tellyou, but Secretary of Corrections Ricky Dixon
is doing everything humanly and agency possibleto change that, to create better programming

(01:09:19):
and better outcomes, because we area better state because of it, because
these men and women will have paidtheir debt to society. You know,
I've long joked that if you're apastor, you can be guilty of a
lot of things and find yourself ina pulpit sharing. But man, if

(01:09:40):
you're guilty of divorce, good luck. As a society, we have determined
that someone has paid their debt tosociety when they serve their sentence. But
we have we've long held grudges.That's a simple way of putting it.

(01:10:11):
I'm not saying that you put someonewho has been convicted of financial crimes in
charge of auditing at the bank.I am saying that there are people coming
out that have shown all of thesigns of being rehabilitated, have handled their
incarceration without incident, and in factwent to helping others. And that's the

(01:10:34):
case of this particular gentleman that I'mtrying to help out. He's looking for
administrative clerical work, maybe even ata law firm. He's got the acumen,
he's got the skill set, andright now he's got no disrespect.

(01:10:56):
He's got a job delivering for apizza outlet that doesn't pay to rent a
place and to live. So thisperson was a teaching assistant in the facility

(01:11:23):
a math teacher helped one hundred andfifty students more than receive their ged assisted
in teaching a required transition class Compassone hundred. He helped with internal prison
audits at different facilities he was placed. He wants to eventually become a facilitator
and help inside a prison, buthe'd love a stable job in this area

(01:11:51):
where I'm broadcasting. If you haveone, if you know of one,
just send an email and I'll putyou in touch with somebody that can get
you more specific information and you candecide how far you want to go to
help. But this is how youmake a difference, you know, this

(01:12:12):
is this is what we try todo. We try to make a difference.
So if you can help. I'vegotten people say hey, I can
give insight on what's wrong with youknow, the the programming inside. I
got you. I got youa thankyou for writing, and we forwarded that
information to people that will talk withyou. I need to hear from people

(01:12:35):
that might have an opportunity Preston atiHeartRadio dot com. Just send me an
email. Got a note from alistener. Big story in the press box

(01:13:12):
brought to you by a custom caredry cleaning. And the big stories the
conviction, the guilty verdict of CharlieAdelson. We lived on Truscott from ninety
five to twenty seventeen. Our housewas two down from Centerville Road. I
still remember that day and how scaredwe were that there was another serial murder,

(01:13:32):
another and then the listing of acouple names. It was months before
our tension began to subside. Wewere impacted on a minute level. Not
family or friends who lost Dan,not the next door neighbor who found him
and has to be haunted to thisday. This case demands to be carried

(01:13:54):
forward till all potential participants are broughtbefore a jury to answer for any in
I agree, and that's why wewill stay the course. It is the
big story in the press box.Charlie Adelson was found guilty first degree murder,

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conspiracy to commit first degree murder,and the third charge solicitation to commit
first degree murder. Go through someof the notes that I wrote down yesterday
on my phone listening to the testimony, not the testimony, the closing arguments.

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And maybe there's an answer for this, but does it seem odd to
you that Charlie Adelson's sister and motherand father were not at the trial.
Now, Wendy testified, and maybethere's some prohibition from someone who testifies,

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but she testified under a form ofimmunity that she can't therefore attend the trial.
I don't know, don't know,don't know if there was an agreement
that kept Donna and Harvey from beingthere, but that sure seemed odd to
me. And if I can offerjust a moment of empathy, Dad had

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to be brutally tough for Charlie.No family was there except his former in
laws. The parents of Dan Markellwere there. The friends of Dan Markell
were there. The emails of DonnaAdelson mom to Wendy daughter reveal Wendy quoting

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Donna, you're a great actress,talking about the importance of playing a part,
meaning a role as an actress,convincing selling. She was writing at
great detail of her plans to enrollthe children in a Christian school, which

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Dan would find unacceptable as a devoutJew of them being baptized. She wrote
this stuff all as a means oftrying to manipulate and engage in psychological warfare

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against Dan. She talked about theone million dollar bribe. Wendy would pay
one third, Charlie would pay onethird, Mom and Dad would pay one
third if Dan would agree to movethe children down there, and if not,
then they were going to be startingto engage in this psychological warfare against
him, telling Wendy, you havea short period of time to act.

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And that was just prior to thehearing that was scheduled on visitation being supervised
with Donna, because Donna was callingDan Markel names to his children, to
his sons. Have you ever heardof an extortion payment plan? I mean,

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have you ever heard of a planon extortion? A murder for hire
where okay, we'll take a downpayment, we'll kill the guy, and
then we'll take payments. That waspart of the defense argument that there was
an extortion payment plan. Even thoughKatie was the go between. There were

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constant text messages between Charlie and Katie. I love yous, I'm lucky to
have you in my life, kissyfaces. The list goes on and on.
There was never a behavior change overthe extortion attempt. But boy,
the second that bump happened, Charliestarted carrying a firearm and things changed dramatically.

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And finally Georgia Kappelman, in herclosing arguments, took on the defense's
opening claim extortion. Huh, Charliehad nothing to do with it. Well,
tell me, how do two guysfrom Miami that have never been to
Tallahassee know who to hit, whoto kill, who to shoot, where

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he lives? How do they knowanything unless they're told? So what's next?
We'll find out? Twenty seven minutesafter the hour, Matt Stab of
Liberty Council on deck Preston Scott.The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was
convincing the world he didn't exist.On News Radio one hundred point SEVENBUFLA Back

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with you on the Morning Show withThrustin Scott thirty five, almost thirty six
minutes now past the hour. GrandAllen running the radio program over there in
Studio one A. I'm here inStudio one B, and I am joined
friend of the program. He isthe founder of the Liberty Council, and
they do so much work that benefitsus, whether we know it or not.
And that's Matt Stave or Matt,good morning, welcome back, how

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are you, good morning, Goodto be with you, Matt. Give
everybody a kind of the cliff notesversion. Who is Sandra Merritt and why
should they care about what's happening inher case? Sam Ram Merritt and David
de Lyden, back in twenty fifteen, begin to meet with planhood doctors ISS

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and representatives of orgon percumer companies overlunch in very public places in California,
and those conversations were recorded, andit was about purchasing organs of these aborted
babies. And what they covered wasplanned parenthood, a boarding babies intentionally so
that they could harvest intact organs.They were altering the abortion procedure, taking

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intact hearts, lungs, livers,even brains, knees, and so forth,
and then providing those two organ precumercompanies which then sold those organs to
research facilities funded by the National Institutesof Health with doctor Fauci for tens and
thousands of dollars. And that's whatthen was released. The videos Planned Parenthood

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came after Sandra Merritt filed a multialliondollar lawsuit in San Francisco, and then
the state of California, beginning withKamala Harris who was the Attorney general then
and then later Savior Besarah, bothin the Biden administration. They came after
Sandra and David with criminal charges,the first ever against a journalists in history.
So those two cases are ongoing.The real issue is on the civil

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case. If Sandra can be heldliable in civil damages for up to sixteen
million dollars when there's no defamation,no false statements, and that's I think
a really critical issue, then nomedia is safe. And that's why some
other groups like pet to the Peoplefor the Ethical Treatment of Animals even joined

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and filed in a methuscree in ourfavor at the Court of Appeals. So
that's where we are with those twocases. The Supreme Court unfortunately declined to
review the civil case, which theyshould have. It's a huge case,
but it's not over. We're stillback at the Court of Appeals with some
major developments that have just occurred thereregarding Project Veritas. Frankly about a law

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that was struck down that's very similarto the law in calip how it was
struck down by the same Ninth Circuit. Yeah, I want to talk about
that for a second. Here first, the law under which Sandra Merrit Is
been charged and was found guilty ofviolating. What is that law. There's
a two party recording law in California, meaning that you have to have both

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parties consent to record a conversation.That's one of about five states in the
country. Most states have a singleparty recording law. Just one person consents,
that's it. And so the recordinglaw has consequences, but there's exceptions
to it, so you can recordeven if the other party doesn't consent or
know about it, if you believethat the person is engaged or about to

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engage in criminal activity, or there'sno expectation of confidentiality. And in this
case, both of those apply becausethey were done in very, very public
places with a lot of traffic aroundthe people that we're talking. But that
law is very similar to a lawin the state of Oregon with Project Veritas.

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When James o'keeith was then with ProjectGiver Bass, they filed suit against
a law that's almost identical has thesame kind of consequences. To party content.
If you don't get too party consent, then most criminal charges. That
law the Ninth Circuit Board of Appealsstruck down as a violation of wage of
speech. That law is virtually identicalto the law in California, and that's

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the law that is forming the basisfor the criminal action in California. So
we're asking the Ninth Circuit now toalso issue the same ruling in this case
as it did in the Oregon caseon a very similar, almost identical law.
And if that's the case, thenthere is no basis on which there

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should be any criminal prosecution whatsoever.There should be no question at that point
because the law itself clearly violates theFirst Amendment. Matt Staver with US Founder
Liberty Council. We're talking about thecase of Sandra Merritt. We'll talk more
in the morning show with Preston Scott. Preston Scott, can you fly this
plane and land it? Surely youcan't be serious. I am serious,

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and don't call me surely. Onnews Radio one hundred point Sevenbusla Liberty Councils
filed a motion to dismiss the SuperiorCourt of San Francisco County regarding a criminal
case in Sandra Merritt asking the courtto dismiss all eight felony charges that were

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originally fifteen Matt, Matt, yousaid something about the law, even as
it's constructed in California, has someexceptions. How is it not criminal conduct
what planned parenthood was engaging in.Well, frankly, it is. And
especially we have a doctor, doctorMikotola, for example, she intentionally altered

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the abortion procedure, which is illegal, especially when it is done to increase
the risk to the mother. Andwhat was she would do breach birth,
and she would bring the baby outexcept for the head. And while the
baby's head was still in so shecould still consider to quote abortion, she
would then extract the organs from thebaby, and of course that causes additional

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risk to the mother. But it'salso obviously brutal to the child. That's
illegal, and she's bragging on tapeabout how she did that. She should
be prosecuted. In fact, theUS House and the US Senate referred these
cases to the Department of Justice underthe Obama administration for prosecution and consideration for

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prosecution, and of course the Obamaadministration did nothing to do anything on this
issue. We do know that,for example, the Oregon procurement companies were
sued by the Orange County District Attorneyand they were fined seven point eight million
dollars collectively. Some of those companieswent out of business. Some of those
companies, like stem Express are stillin business. They were able to weather

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the find because they were engaging inthe illegal trafficking of human baby body parts
for profit, and so that wasa conservative county. Orange County District Attorney
went after those individuals and did itbecause they found out what was happening because
of these videos. But the onlyones who really haven't been punished is the

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Planned Parenthood operatives, the people whowere involved, the affiliate entities that were
engaging in these trafficking of human bodyparts. Some of those people wore two
hats. They worked for Planned Parenthoodor an affiliate of Planned Parenthood, and
they also worked for the organ procurementcompany. So on the one hand they're
doing the abortions, on the otherhand, they're profiting on the organ procurement

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company side. Those should have beenand still should be the ones that should
pay the penalty for what's going onhere. What's gone on, and it's
been going on for years and years. But what happened is you've got a
politically motivated Kamala Harris and then Exavierto say, who's now with the Department
of Health and Human Services. Theywere the ages, they were getting contributions

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from Plan Parents. They went afterSandra and David. Even the Los Angeles
Times Editorial Board issued an editorial blastingthese criminal charges, saying it's never happened
in history and it would ultimately underminejournalism and investigative journalism, which is true.
So we have that going on atthe same time that we're asking for

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the court to dismiss it based uponthe unconstitutionality of this law. And also
in the civil case, it's backat the Ninth Circuit, and we've asked
the Ninth Circuit to do the samething. Since the same Ninth Circuit,
different panel, but the same CircuitCourt of Appeals struck down just this year
a similar law that's virtually identical.Then, how can that be a basis

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in the civil case that Plan Parenthad brought. They can't be. So
we're moving on both fronts to pushback on both of these situations. But
you know, this has been goingon. It's twenty fifteen. It's a
long call and we're not done byany means. We were supposed to be
going to trial this month, butthat got moved because Sandra was not able

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to travel. But she will.You know, we have a trial scheduled
for next year, but this month. Just in a week or two,
less than two weeks actually middle ofNovember, we'll be back in San Francisco
in the criminal case, asking forthe judges to dismiss all the remaining eight
criminal charges, any one of thosecharges. If Sandra's convicted her she could

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spend years in prison. As always, Matt, thank you for all you
do and your team across the countryon behalf of all of us. We
appreciate very much. Thank you.Preston. Good to be with you.
Thank you, Sir Matt Staver,founder Senior counsel. I mean, the
list goes on and on. He'spastor Liberty Council LC dot org is the

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website forty six past the hour.Wow, what a day came across the

(01:29:24):
story here as we wrap up thismorning of the how do you homemade ice
cream? How do you homemade?Yeah, how do homemade ice cream?
I don't know that one. Itis not a typical local dessert shop.
The idea came to the CEO founderTom Landis. He said, I was
about to open up a donuts shopand I learned how hard it is to

(01:29:45):
make a donut. He said,nap didn't want to work that hard.
Really, yeah, he said,way too much involved in opening up a
donuts shop, early work hours,more and more. He just steered clear.
And then he was like, butice cream, well now, and
he was interested, but he hada mission. He wanted to employ people

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that struggled finding employment. That's thosewith intellectual and developmental disabilities and that down
syndrome autism, different autism, spectrumdisorders, cerebral palsy, and so forth.
He said, you know, welearned that people that are in that

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world tend to work really well withchecklists and repetition, a skill set that
a lot of customer service employees hethought were lacking. And I think you
and I talk about customer service lackingin general, and he's starting to drill
into something here. He said.We train him with checklists. They honor

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and respect the checklist, and theydo so to the point where they're like,
if someone's not following. They're like, hey, hey, hey,
hey, follow the checklist, dothese things. And he said, you
know, you choose your ice cream. And from there it comes down to
one factor that's dead in America today, customer service. He said, that's
where our people thrive. And theyhad some rough patches starting out, but

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here they are years in now andthey're not just surviving, they're thriving.
They've gotten over a thousand requests forfranchises. Some of their ice cream flavors
that they have developed traditional Birthday Cake, cinnamon Roll, Chocolate, Doctor Pepper,

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chocolate Chip, Oh Gosh, CookieMonster, strawberry milkshake. He said,
I want to show a way wecan change business, where we can
prove that we can do things bettereven though some of our employees have disabilities.
I love it. I love it. That's almost like a good news
segment. What a way to hearsmile. Everyone's just smiling right now.

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Ah Smile brought to you by BaronoHeating and Air. It's the morning show
one on WFLA. It's like mygrandson Kingston when he doesn't want to smile
and I go smile, I go, I see you, and he's fighting
that smile and then the big dimplesshow up. I see you people,

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you're smiling deep down. You knowthat's cool. Boosting customer service with employees
that have alleged disabilities. Ironic,isn't it? Today? Big story in
the press box. Guilty Charlie Aedelsonwas guilty on all three counts that he

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was charged with, a quitted ofnone. Talked with Francisco Gonzalez about entrepreneurship,
the mindset, and his new book, The American Dream Is a Terrible
Thing to waste. A at theMidtown Reader in Tallahassee today at five o'clock.
If you're interested, go meet him. As you heard engaging guy Hunter,

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Biden's ex business partner Tony Bobolenski callson the Bidens to join him for
testimony in front of Congress. Hesaid, you think I'm a liar?
Come on, let's all sit downunder oath. Let's see how this goes.
What do you think I think they'lltake him up on it? Nah?
I don't think so. Talked abouta lot of other things, of

(01:33:30):
course, a hiker saved in Canadawho unfortunately followed Google Maps on a hiking
route. Don't do that in fact, be reticent about following Google Maps at
all unless it's main roads. Andlastly, our versu of the day one
Timothy two, one and two,I Remember and I'm two for two this

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week Tomorrow author Tom Claven and theLast out Laws