November 11, 2023 • 52 mins
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(00:02):
And welcome to the down out DoorShow. Charlie. I'm j D.
I'm great, and I'm Fred.Say hello, Bill, Hi, I'm
Bill. Okay, And so ifyou didn't get last week's show, all
right, so I'll reiterate just alittle bit here. But we recorded this
week's show a week early because well, j D, I and a bunch
(00:23):
of people, and then we maystill have Fred with us. We should
be on our way back. Fred'sprobably back in court already because he's flying
around. And then we're driving becausewe can't afford airplanes and stuff. We're
in the van. Yeah, Imight have that membership in that club.
We're taking that last we're taking theshort bus up and anyway, so we're
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in South Dakota. We've been.We should be back by now, but
I didn't have a chance for corda show ahead of time, So you
might be back by now. That'sright. For another true I'm in Kentucky.
Where are you right now? Iam in somewhere in the woods and
just outside of Princeton, Kentucky,Kentucky. Yeah, that's that's if we
drop you off like we're supposed to. Oh, I'll drive the whole leg
(01:08):
from South Dakota to there to makesure I get there, because I don't
want to deal with a mad wifethat's driving up to meet me to go
deer hunting. She gets to gohunting, whether you go or not.
Take the rifles. Are you allrifle hunting? Yeah? Okay, you're
hunting deer, right, yes,well you got it. You've got a
massive monster. Well okay, yougot her a gift she had. This
(01:30):
is her Christmas present from last yearthat she's just now about Christmas again.
And but yeah, yeah, she'sI want to If I don't kill a
deer on this trip, I'll befine. Uh you know, if I
don't ever kill another deer, I'llbe fine as long as that because I
get a lot of joy out ofwatching my kids and her hunt because they
(01:52):
all enjoy it as well. Andjust the two of you, Yeah,
she's two of us. A guy, This is a not truly a guide
where we're we're hunting on private land, the gentleman's property that we're hunting on.
He actually runs a high fence operationand we're gonna talk more about that
in some later shows. Uh,it's through an outfitter here and here in
Tallahassee that that we're friends with,and he set all this up. This
(02:15):
guy has a high fence operation thereand high fence operation. These are these
are pen raised deer and some ofhis he's got three hundred inch massive this
this stuff you see at the atthe bass pro shop. You know that
big massive yeah, drop times frontthat you just a Christmas tree on top
of their head kind of thing insidethe fence. That's not what I care
(02:38):
anything about Christmas. A big fence. So he also he also owns some
land, some hunting land, somewoods and some alfalfa fields. He grows
alfalfa to feed the to feed thedeer inside the fence. And only are
they big rack, they're good tasting. Yeah, well we're hunting the outside
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the fence. We're hunting wild deer, free fair chase, free range,
outside the defence wild deer. That'slike I've got our I fens near hunt
those good hus We yeah no,we uh, that's not what we're doing.
We'll retract this. I don't wantto marry you anymore. But anyway,
so they kill outside the fence.He they harvest every year. He
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lets ten people a year, tenpeople per year hunt his private property.
So you're still looking a big deer, yeah, he told me. I
talked to him last week. Hesaid, on his cameras, he has
approximately twenty three to twenty five bucksdifferent bucks on camera on his property that
will score between one hundred and thirtyfive and one hundred and eighty inch.
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Correct. I saw one of theone hundred and thirty five inch deer that
was killed there last year. Itwas an eight point if so one hundred
and thirty, like a massive,massive eight point. But they also some
tens and twelves. Obviously the biggestdeer that's ever come off of his property.
There was one hundred and ninety sixinches for a wild not fenced in
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free range for a fair chase.One hundred and ninety six inch deers sea.
Yeah, because they're eating alfalfa andliving in a creek bottom where there's
big acorn dropping on around. We'resixteen miles red. If you've ever if
you know anything about deer hunt,you ever heard of this place called Land
between the Lakes in western Kentucky,And we're sixteen miles from there. We're
just on the other side of thelake from Land between the Lakes. They
(04:30):
still on their logo or like theytake that off. That's the Lando,
that's Lando Lakes. No, it'sgot to zero right now. But anyway,
we're you know, I am.I did buy a here we go.
I did buy a nice video camerawith a thirty thirty power optical zoom
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and low lux capabilities for I'm goingto try it SI thirty all six cameras,
yeah, I got one in thirtyand sech cameras. It's a long
range video camera for It's really madefor doing for filming hunts because it picks
up in low light. So I'mgoing to try really hard to videotape her
killing a trophy deer if we canget all that coordinated. Therefore, she
(05:17):
might get canceled. She might,but I don't think she really cares because
a long time ago. But I'mexcited about it. I'm excited about it.
I'm on you know. And hesaid, yeah, you're from Florida.
The biggest problem you're going to haveis you're you're you're probably going to
see fifteen to twenty five Yeah,rack bucks a day. That will be
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big for you. He said,you just have to be patient and be
real cautious and look it over reallygood when your binoculars, because you don't
want to come all the way uphere and do this. And that's what
it happened to me. I'd said, I'd need somebody sitting next to me.
You don't shoot, don't well,I'm going to try really hard to
contain myself and be that don't shootyet, don't shoot that one. And
(06:01):
I'm sure my wife is she's killedsome nice dear she's killed at ten point
here and eight point out in Texas, and she's killed some nice deer,
but neither one of us, neitherof us have I mean, my biggest
deer is not much over one hundredand thirty inch deer that in my lifetime.
So the potential of me and herboth killing a lifetime trophy antlers.
(06:24):
And in this place they put youup. They they have converted some grain
silos into grain silos into living quarters. And you're going to sleep in a
silo. I'm on sleep in asilo. But we're excited about it.
And if it works out good andit turns out to be a great trip,
we'll start passing out names and contactinformation all that kind of stuff.
(06:45):
I'm not going to endorse something thator talk about somebody that if it turns
out to be mess, I'm notgoing to be able that have bought these
trips and have gone on these tripsand it wasn't a good experience and got
a dough and came back and spentyou know, two grand on a I
mean, and it's it's I alwaysI hadn't been on one one of these
days. Maybe I will, andI would rather my wife go on and
(07:08):
I'm I'm here's the thing is Ieat deer and eat a little that's me.
I'm all about to hamburger. Theone rack there I've got in my
living room was it was the biggestbuck I've ever shot on my place.
I'm not impressed. You know,we've got tax dermy around here. Most
of it was donated to us.I mean, I just don't I'm on
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a trophy buck. Although we didgo pronghorn hunting, and I am enough
to where I want select slices ofthat. But I don't. I don't
go out, don't. I don't. I don't worship at the foot of
you know, an eight point aneight point that is two years old.
I want if I'm gonna shoot something. I want something that's impressive, or
I'd rather hunt on dough days,you know, get dough tagged or something
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like that. It's just eat tomeet. Yeah, she and I both
are, you know, and you'rethe same way. We've had this discussion.
For us, it's out the experience, not necessarily the it's about the
entire experience, the fact that thatshe and I are going up there,
and you know, if we bothif we both get our deer or kill
a deer the first couple of days, we got three days, we got
(08:13):
five days to hunt. So ifwe tell you if we get this done
early, I told her, Isaid, you know, baby, we
ain't but about an hour and ahalf from Nashville. And she gets,
oh yeah, So I said,so you never know where, And it's
she and I get to spend fivedays together without kids in soccer and life
and you know, so it's it'sit's it's our nice little vacation. So
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and then you get to take itto a tax a dermists and wait about
a year. Yeah, I getto take it to attax the dermis up
there because I don't want to jumpthrough all the hoops of transporting all the
we'll we'll bomb the meat out andput it in the put it in the
cooler and bring it home. ButI have I have exercised a few of
the would I get in any detail, exercise a few of the depredation permits.
(08:54):
We acquired here locally and have someheads and cooler waiting on a f
w C and dropped them off here. Working with our past guest on helping
with the c w D survey pollingarea surveyed over out of my way and
doing what I do in my part. Freezer's gonna be full. I got
(09:15):
a feeling a new freezer might bein the I want you to, I
want you to, I want youto buck this year. I'm just we
oh, my lord, And Itold the neighbors to listen. I got
some depredation permits can be hunting,and whether a rifle you're gonna it's suppressed,
it's suppressed. So it is whatit is. So but he's just
gonna let you know what's going on. And yeah, we had thirty doze
(09:37):
on cameras at one time the othernight, and I'm like, well,
he's got at helping the situation outmuch. We've got a serious, serious
oberpopulation, and I'll tell you what. I'm out there picking up one and
they're walking out of the woods blowingat me mad so, I bet that
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so Charlie's mad at the camera.Yeah, so in that last sex,
I don't know what's going on.I'm still figuring this camera thing out,
but it just quit somewhere during thesegment. There's I apologize the not that
you want to see us so muchas much. Just a bunch of guys
sitting here talking. But then again, that's the whole show. A lot
(11:13):
of preparation all listen. So someguys going not anymore. It's okay.
But so yeah, anyway, Fred, you want to tell you grocery store
Yeah, man, maybe some grocerystore public story and the confrontation I wish
I would have had and didn't have. So I go to Public's. I
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had to get some stuff on theway home. I got four items in
my cart. Did it stop theitching? Yeah? So gold bond save
it. I'm on the way homeand I stopped in. This is the
Public's on tom Shawl, right bythe Interstate, and I'm in the ten
items the express you know, checkout, and in front of me is
(12:03):
this granola crunching looking liberal type womangot her you know, the kind that
brings the bags and bags in therethat they reused forty times. Yeahs you
get they were like some kind ofweird looking tennis shoes that even I wouldn't
wear. And you've seen some ofthe shoes I got. And and she's
(12:24):
in front of me and she's gother in seven but potent uh. And
she's in front of me and she'sgot she's got her in ninety five mask
on, and she's got about sixor seven items. And then there's a
woman in front of her, who'syou you they could have been sisters.
(12:46):
Uh, you know, same granolalooking outfit, little checkout bags, and
she's got her in ninety five maskon, and there's a cute little checker
girl sitting there, and so youknow, I'm looking at the checker girl,
not really paying attention to the maskedliberal in front of me. And
and as the one in front it'sgot like thirty items in the ten item
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and that's already got me fired up. And I'm not gonna say anything,
you know, just okay, youknow. And then the one directly in
front of me with the eight ornine items, as the thirty item woman
is checking out. The one infront of me looks at the other masked
woman. It doesn't look at her, looks at the checker girl, but
(13:30):
it's talking to the other masked womanand says thank you for wearing a mask,
as if to shame the checker girlfor not having a mask on.
We long past the mask, andI'm like, look, if you want
to wear a mask, wear amask, but don't sit here and passively
aggressively boy the checker girl who can'tsay anything about it. And I really
(13:50):
wanted to go up and say,lady, you know, mind your room
flipping business. And I had someother things to say to it as well,
but it didn't. And then asI and I was, I got
home that night, and about threemartinis into it dawned on me, I've
got the radio. I got gottenthe radio. I got the radio show.
So lady, you know who youare probably not listening to this show.
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I'm not listening, but if youmaybe somebody of her friends are.
And let me just tell you.If you see a short ball guy that
walks like a penguin, not exaggerating, I got your number. That's about
got your numbers. I'm ready totake that class. Logan offers you you
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know better than anybody that if somethingwere to happen and they're going to go
back, and you're gonna be sittingin court. They're gonna be playing this,
and you know that was premeditated andyou went there with a forethought malice
or something like that. I justheard that. No, it's gonna be
like that waitress out there in SouthDakota and she comes out to me,
I'm hiding, mind you be carefulnow. She'll get you. She's especially
(15:03):
when you're too drunk to know howto order a steak. Look stakes coming
inches. I mean you can ordera six inch steak. You can,
but people look at you like you'restupid. She did, We listened.
She thought we told that story before. Tred was going to order a six
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inch or six ounce ounce steak,a six out out steak, which you
know, grow up and get asixteen ounce steak, but six ounce sirloin,
and he ordered can his size.He ordered a six inch steak in
front of us, which was areally bad thing for pred It was.
And the waitress is known for herher She is good humor and lack of
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sarcasm, sarcastic or angry or meanat all, not a bit. And
if you go in there and youorder the the cheese bites. You might
get him on a about the thirdor fourth time. The third or Friday,
you go in there to fried pickles. That was it, Yeah,
fried pickles. So was it cheeselets? It was fried cheese curds. Che
(16:10):
problem as we stopped off at thatliquor store, gun store, on the
way after the airport, and itturned out they had stole the Elite vodka,
which is like the vodka I mean, this stuff is teaching drink when
we go out of town pallet.That place had a palette of Buffalo Trace,
a pallette stacked up. I don'tknow if you notice that I'm not
looking at the vodka all. That'snot my I don't do potato whiskey,
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but corn brown brown corn whiskey.On the other hand, I do,
I do. I do like,and I really like Buffalo Trace is one
of my favorites, and it's reallyhard to get sometimes around here. You
just don't see it in the storethat often, especially not a palette of
it. But you didn't buy awhole bunch. I didn't buy it.
I don't find I bought a bottleanything. You were envious of my beaver
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pelt that I bought. Yeah,I had that Beaver make sense, Steak
and Beaver. Okay, you knowit's like and we're taking video cameras this
year. I'm thinking one of theseships I want to go. So we're
gonna be walking around. What you'redoing next week? Yeah? Last week?
What were you doing last week?I forget when it's Freddy or Bill.
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If you'll be here about one o'clockon, you know, load up
in the van. That Mercedes vanin the parking lot is leaving out of
here, I won't be able togo to this one guitar this year.
Yea cool singing some songs that gotme kicked out of some bars. I
like that. You do you knowthat? Do you have? You happen
to know the song Willy Whaling andMe by David Allen co Oh, yeah,
(17:40):
I know I got all his songsnow, all right? Yeah we
can get it. And if Idon't know it, I can just pull
up and look at the words onYouTube. Make up the melody. I
can carryok it, so we cando some karaoke, we might get call,
we might have a concert and cookit. Man, this is gonna
be move your mouth. And wefound out that we think your stepfather is
(18:03):
going well, when they listen tothis, we will we will know the
answer. Some won't say that storytill we get back and we can record
a post show and Robby and videos. Yeah, I mean I saw mom
at the House of the Night andI said, hey, is Robber gonna
go with us and the Roberts mystepdad and and and he never he goes
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all over the place, does stuff, but it's only where he can wear
crocs and sweatpants. And he's theonly guy I know he's got dress crocs,
you know. And you wear someblack ocks and some dogs on black
crocs and you can wear them withslacks, and most of them we're in
Marianna, So I mean, youknow that's fine. So I told her
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you got to have some you gotcroc I don't know, you know,
raise some WT forty. I'm gonnawipe them off and they follows them right
up. W D forty does alot of things, you know, It
cleans all. Yeah. Uh So, anyway, it's it's a. It's
a. It's a. Uh.So we will tell story. I'm sure
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we will tell stories, and wewill have some videotape, uh hopefully,
hopefully, well, but he wearsa size fourteen. Uh. Well,
he sent me pictures he got hewent shoe shopping. I said, well,
I don't have his shoes in thestore, but I can get you.
I can get you some camouflage stuffand some warm stuff because he said
didn't like the cold and he wasafraid he was afraid he was gonna slow
(19:33):
us down. And I said,well, you ain't gonna be the oldest
guy there probably, and you ain'tgonna be the most crippled guy there.
So I got nothing else. Youcan just go sit on end and we'll
flush the birds to you. Butjust please go. Because Fred he's got
stories too, he's got jokes too, and so uh and uh he's he's
uh so I got to have ashuck off with j D and a joke
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off with There you go, justbe before that fast. So yes,
we found out in the earlier todaythat Fred used to be a professional oyster
shucker. I was, well,I'll tell you what, if you can
prove it for about three or fourdozen we'll find out. I find out
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how good you are. We'll seeI got a quick motion with right,
I think I'm about as good withit. I'm about as good with a
sharpened screwdriver as I am with thedad gunna on. Now, if you
get Bill Logan, he might couldgive you some pointers and actually enhance your
oysters because on oysters. So,how much damage can you do with an
oyster knife? Oh? I haveseen some damage done with a yster knife.
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Really, I've actually hurt myself withan oyster knife. Sometimes he's slipping
on the shell. Man. Wasyou wearing the white boots to go with
it? Yeah? Fantasy everyone Ihad that when when when when I was
talking to Mama the other night andI said, I said, well,
he needs some water waterproof boots.And I don't mean the white panace a
night. Didn't get up there toWalmart. I mean something that I said.
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That's the only stipulation. You can'ttake them, and if nothing else,
will stop on the way and gethim something. You could drill some
holes in them white ones and havesome boot crocks. They make those.
I think they've never seen them.I've seen some cowboy boots, some crocs
with cowboy boot trying to pull onethe cowboy boot crocs, Yes, sir,
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seen it out there? Oh yeah, they just came out with them
yeah, they they did. Iwill find the picture and I will put
it on the video for the show. See if people are watching on YouTube,
they're gonna miss out. They're inlike Franklin County or that's the that's
that's the That's not the Croc FranklinCounty uses. It's the Nike version.
It's the Nike. Yeah, yeah, I guess Franklin County Nikes and Fantasy
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of Rebox. Yeah, they're thewhite boots. But I mean a Croc
Cowboy boot. Yes, you wouldfind that in like, you know,
Hop Alabama or something there you go, mobile maybe mobile closer to the water.
That could be Bamonettette Bambonette Alabama.Yeah, well I bet you we
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could find a pair in your sizebecause they got them in a kiss department.
I mean, well, you gotto wear them the cord if we
get you. That reminds me Fred, there's some girl named Candy and Bamonette
Alabama. I show up when there'sCrock Cowboy game on, game on.
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I'm not even going to Lord.We will be back in just a minute.
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oth I had the date wrong.It's December fourteenth, Okay, the Hilton
Gardens wherever they are, Yes,I know what I've played there before.
We saved there for a Whitting onetime, and I stayed the Holliday and
Aurist once and I thought I wasalmost the smartest fread. But you don't
want to do anyway. So HiltonGardens December to fourteenth. And so what
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we're going to be doing is Rightto Bear is going to be hosting Talent
Range and Talent training, and Rightto Bear will be hosting a Alabama Gunlass
seminar. And we'll be talking aboutbecause I will tell you because I've been
teaching some private lessons and teaching somebasic classes up there here and there,
and Alabama laws are a little bitharder to research. They're they're well,
(24:26):
we're going to turn you in here, they're they're lawh school in Alabama.
I know you did well. Wedon't hold that against you. So so
the problem and fred you from obviouslyno more about it neither. In Florida,
if I want to read a Floridastatute, I just google the issue,
pull it up, look at theFlorida statutes, and I can look
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and cross reference and it clicks andlinks and goes everywhere, and I can
learn everything I want to learn aboutthe history behind it and the Senate bills,
and I find. It's a codesection book in Alabama. And I
actually prefer the Alabama the way theAlabama Statute book is written, because there's
a pretty simple, plain English wherewe got to use a bunch of three
syllable words in Florida and I haveto look them up. But where do
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you find it? I want toread a law about something to do with
guns in Alabama? Where do Ifind it? Go look at the Alabama
Code. I can't find it onthe internet. They probably don't have it
on the internet. You got togo buy a book like we did in
law school. I have a wholesection of the old section of them.
You go in. What I findis when I go looking on the internet,
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I'll find Alabama Code, but it'llbe old, it won't be like
the newest. Yeah, usually saywell it could be. I mean,
you can get it on West Law, which is where I do. So
you might google a statue. Idon't typically do that. What I'll do
is get on West Law and lookat the statute annotated and so it'll have
the notes of decisions for whatever statutethat is in different areas that have been
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litigated that interpret parts of that statute. Alabama's they've got there's an Alabama Code
annotated book. So the guy that'spicking peanuts right now on the tractor,
he wants to know what he canlegally do and not do in Alabama.
He needs coming to a seminar andquit messing around on the internet. Ye,
(26:17):
he needs to do that. Orry, he needs to go find one
of my colleagues passed, you know, six seven ore bucks an hour.
We'll talk to them. Okay,so you can get free. He said,
you have a lot of peanuts.So if you use the code word
talent and we'll put this out.You can call the range, call the
range and or find us on Facebookor whatever. But we've got this event
going on December the fourteenth at theWhat did I say? Where did I
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say? It was? Hilton Garden? Hilton Gardens, end Othan on the
circle? Is it off the serviceon the service road? So that's old
school stuff anyway, So you comethere and we'll have frontage road on the
front of the room. Yeah,that's it. So but anyway, so
come there to that event and youcan ask your questions and you'll get qualified
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legal advice basically the interpretation of whatyou can and can't do and which is
really good to know on the frontend of things, Yeah, because on
the back end of things you findsomebody like Fred. If you if you've
crossed the if you cross the linereads a bad guy or anything. I
don't want to have to ever hireyou a reasonable doubt for reasonable price.
I can. Well, it's hardto get an attorney to give you an
(27:22):
answer up front. It's like,hey, what can I when they go
and they go, well, youknow, it's kind of you have to
look at and then there's the andthen but you could. But the other
thing is but then there's always aset of circumstances. Now on the flip
side of that, once you getin trouble, they will take your money
and then I'll go on up,well what you should have done? Well,
not what you should have done?Told me now, Fred actually will
answer questions, and he asked him, But then again he looks at us
(27:45):
like, you know what, andwhat seort of crazy circumstances would that ever
occur? Oh? No, Iquit asking that question a while back.
On the stories that I've heard youtell, I mean the guy burned him
himself down in my parking lot.That's when I was like, all right,
it's over with now. He he'sscreaming my name turned out to have
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the wrong Fred set himself on fire. I mean right there in the parking
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work dot com. Han, We'reback. We mentioned Armidela's on the break.
I just i'd mentioned something on theprevious show or maybe two yous about
my h Robert needing to continue theongoing armadilla war at Mama's house. And
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he had run out of shotgun chillfour ten shotgun channels, and I took
him a box of BBB's fool hadmess up a dela And he said,
he said, so up about thefirst dozen or so, you know,
he was shooting with whatever else hewas shooting. I was number fours,
and they would he and he gotto watch him when he tells the story,
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because he says, well, whatthey would do is that they would
they would jump up and kind ofroll over a little bit. He goes,
they just lay down. When Ishoot him with these, he said,
it's much more, you mean,ain quicker man. I shot a
armadal time with the twenty two inthe yard, and I swear to you
it is not an exaggeration. Thatthing jumps straight up off the ground.
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I mean from doing what our diggingin my yard, from digging up my
yard to four feet off the ground, just straight vertical spring and I'm like,
I was crazy. Yeah, Imean you try being as short as
I have run around with. That'sthat's a self defense at that point,
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could jump up and bushy face.I wonder if that is yeah, you
get that that you could Yeah,I ain't got my number. It's kind
of like a deer rut there inSouth Dakota. Had my number save you.
You just stay stay close to me. I mean we're going to do
the same formation. We did thesame format. All I know is if
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somebody shows up hollering Fred and thelodge, I'm gonna I'm gonna run because
you try, you might be beingstalked another person in love. It has
happened. Love. We'll do that, Love, We'll do that to you.
I didn't even hear what he said. Catch that on the last party
show. You gotta go back andlisten to that again. What was because
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old Bill sitting over to Ben quietand then just out of the blue,
he just slips that one in rightat the bell and he's sitting over holding
the work his knife. I mean, I'm not going to open it.
I'm scared of it. You needto leave that sheath on that thing.
Because it's still pretty sharp, eventhough I cut cut down a bunch of
trees with it. Yeah, yougotta know what you caant. I don't
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play. You don't see me playingwith knives a lot, because I use
knives and I'm very proficient like butcheringwith knives, but like like playing with
knives, I'm not familiar with Neil. You're Bill, You're real familiar.
I'm sure with the Emerson wave.Oh yes, so one on the crambit
on my boot. There you go, so, uh, I know how
many weapons does he have? Hesat in the middle, He sat the
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middle, detector off. He's acrazy knife. So Charlie and I we
went out to Uh so that's goinglater on tonight. Bill. The first
time we went to the shot showand uh, it was out in Las
Vegas. It wasn't the first time. It wasn't the first time. Anyway,
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we went to Las Vegas to shotShow and we went to the Emerson
booth, one of the knife boothsout there. Rap's a good guy.
Yeah, pretty sure have a pictureof me. They both certainly have a
picture of Charlie at this point.Uh. Anyway, he picks up and
we're looking at night. I'm like, oh, that's a wave, that's
you know, and I'm looking atthe knife and I showed Charlie I put
the fame of pocket. I said, this is hease, what's the big
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deal about that? And I putit in my pocket and I demonstrated,
I pulled and he goes, hegot wow, you know that's cool.
So I didn't want to try andget dear try it. I said,
here, try it. It justcatches on your pocket when you It just
catches on the edge of your pocketwhen you're pulling it out and opens a
blade up and he okay, Andanyway, he sticks that thing in his
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pocket and he goes to pull itout and I don't remember exactly how it
happened, but immediately cut himself onthe finger with a really really sharp really
so it was cut good. Butit was only half way out of my
pocket and it was only half wayout of his pocket. So now this
knife is open, most half open, sticking out of his pocket, and
I'm holding the womb clothes and he's, yeah, he's pinching. He's pinching
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this keep it from because it wasbleeding good. And they're like, that's
fine. We got band aids forthat. Weoll Donna. His wife decides
to help him. Here, letme get that for you, honey,
and she I tried to say,nose weight. Wait wait, and she
goes to finish taking it out.It doesn't open all the way because now
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anyway, and she said, hegets stabbed in the farm. So now
I'm bleeding from the fore arm.I'm bleeding from the finger and I'm just
looking at the guy behind the counter. I said, you got band aids
this. He goes, oh,yeah, we got no. No,
he goes, I don't know.I have to go. Look. I'm
like, really, this is notbooth you don't have and he went back.
He was gone for a while andshe's holding pressure here and I'm holding
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pressure here and I'm thinking this thousandpeople walking around, look at it.
Why is this guy's blood blood onthe counter, blood on the floor.
And he finally comes back with someold box. And then the next year
we go back you next year andI walk up. He goes, no,
no, no, no, I'mtaking out I remember you. I
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like nobody had ever cut theirself atthe knife booths before, like this was
something new. And of course,during this whole time, I'm being extremely
helpful the situation because I completely understandyou look all the bright's eye. At
least you can cut your pants offof then. Funny, funny you will
say that, don't use an Emersonwave future when you're sitting down, you'll
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cut your pants off. I cutthe whole front out of my pants once.
That's why I do this. Yeah, that's why I don't. I
don't when when people go, hey, check your knife out, it's pretty
good, that's cool, just leaveit over there. Yeah. I like
the out to front eves because Iknow which direction the blade's going in.
It goes out, it comes backin automatic knives, and I'm used to
that's one thing, but this fancyHey, if you do this and do
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that and do twist and uh,I don't want none of that. I
get that. In the out tofront eyes, most of them are.
You know, if you put anythingin front of it, it's gonna stop
it from protruding. So it's notlike you just have to make if you
accidentally activate it in your pocket.I think. I think out the front
knives are probably the safest to yourselfknife that exists, because you truly never
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have to touch the blade. Younever have to touch the blade to open
it, to close it, todo anything with it until they don't retract
properly, and then you're having tofigure out how to do all that.
So yeah, yeah, you justopen it back up anyway. Anyway.
I just I think out the frontknives are extremely safe, especially for if
you're carrying it for self defense.It's just why I normally carry one until
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I lose it. That's heartbreaking.Well, I mean I never like to
lose it. Lose it. Ilike set it down it or it's in
the laundry, lose it. Andit's like my microtech that I normally carry.
He's still sitting on the counter.My wife found it in the laundry.
Apparently it was I have a badhabit of losing things in clothes that
I don't wear very often. Herein Age, I lost a set of
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heir in ads and a shirt thatI didn't wear for six months and went
brought me a new pair of heroand ads and then found them. Yep,
that's about your size. This actually, this is this reminds me of
a of a of a story realquick red buck peanut. Yeah, this
little thing, I mean, youknow, probably you know two inch plate.
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I was bouncing uh at a ata club to silver bullet many years
ago in Montana, and uh,big guy picked a fight with a little
Mexican guy. A little Mexican guydidn't want to fight, and UH knocked
him down. The little Mexican guygot up. Big guy knocked him down
again. The little guy got up, and I just saw his hand just
move real, real fast, straightup, and that big guy hit the
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ground and everything that was inside wascoming outside. And it was a knife
of just about that little teeny tinytwo inch blade, sharp as a razor.
I couldn't see it. Ended uptestifying at that uh you know,
court date and everything else. Hewent to prison. I don't get to
go to prison. He went toprison because of, you know, the
way things turned out in Montana,as far as the way the laws were.
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I actually said, you know,he didn't want to fight. The
guy was twice his size, andyou know, as far as I was
concerned, it was the defensive useof a blade. But he ended up
going to prison anyway. But Iheard I've seen people shot, stab,
lit on fire, and open likea fish. And the one I'm referring
to is that little eddy bitty tinyknife you never see. That's as far
as I'm cerned. You know,some guy running at me with this is
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going to get to in a face. Okay, But that little tiny one
you never see, that's the dangerousones. That's why knife scare me.
And I've seen knife wounds over theyears, but he sees it. Just
try and scare them all. Sowe're all going to do that. So
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anyway, but I've seen I don'tlike knife. What's knife scare me more
than guns to? They don't run, they well exactly, yeah, yeah,
and they are they are very concealable. Most most every person has one
of some shape form or fashion andand the and they you know, you
can take them pretty much anywhere.You know, if it's a common pocket
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knife in Florida, pretty much carryabsolutely you want to, except in the
courthouse. Carry in the courthouse.You can't stick it in your pickle pocket.
Yeah, listen to the last show. Listen to the last show.
You didn't get that joke. Didthe pickle have pockets? No? That
was a problem too, because Ieverywhere put my pen my keys, go
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back in the courthouse. D it'slike a pickle let my keys in there.
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point fifty hand back last segment.We've had the fortune of having Bill Logan
here for two weeks now. It'sbeen a long two weeks out in the
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bill. Yeah, it seems likeforever. Yeah, you keep wearing the
same clothes. I was gonna sayit starts to smell a little bit of
fri. It's wearing the same stufftoo. I'm surprised you did do it.
I don't smell like a fire though, right. We called each anyway,
So we're front loaded a couple ofthese shows so we can go out
of town and have a good time. Yeah, y'all, y'all, y'all
playing with your little your grandpa foldingknives or reminded me of a reminded me
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of a story I was telling workthe case one time where a guy's in
Bullwinkles and he's from out of townand he was not a college kid,
and he was in town working constructionand went into Bullwinkles wearing a cowboy hat
and some some frat boys started pickingat him, and frat boys and girls
started I had been on the receiverand then one of those one time got
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hitting the head with a radio byone of their security people, which was
part of the frat. Yeah,until I showed up later trying to kick
the door. And that's the firsttime I met the FSU police person that
Mike guy Big and Michelle jan Iended up working for him and with her.
She trained me when I went upthere about another year later. Yeah.
So this old guy goes into Bullwinklesafter working all week putting up drywall
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at the university on the contract,and he goes in there to get a
cold beer and sitting there bothering nobody, but he's wearing a cowboy hat and
the guy starts messing with him,and it was a little scuffle inside and
one of the girls ended up sprayinghim with pepper spray, and the guy
tries to leave and walk away fromthis whole ordeal doing the right thing,
and this is long before standing yourground laws and this kind of stuff.
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But he's walking away and he goesout into the alleyway between Bullwinkles and Poor
Paul's, which is an alley inbetween some buildings there for those of you
that ain't familiar with downtown Tallahassee tryingto walk away, and these three frat
guys, rat boys jump on himin the in the alleyway there and continue
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to try to get him to fight, and he pulls out one of those
little folding two or three blade pocketknives that have belonged to his grandfather and
he's hit that guy. Stabbed thatguy three times, started it basically the
top of it, you know,they're they're tussling. Stabbed him about three
times in the back, starting atthe top of the shoulder blade, and
kind of worked his way down therib cage. And uh, the guy,
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the frat boy survived, He lived, and uh. I got the
guy up at the booking room andgetting statements and photographs and all this stuff,
and he said, uh, uh, can you do me a favor,
sir? And I'm like, what'sthat man? He is? That's
my grandpa's knife, and I reallydon't want to lose it. And I'm
like, I don't know if you'regoing to get it back or not.
But you you know, I don't. We don't know the outcome of this.
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You may be going to prison,you may not. And I don't
know, you've got a pretty goodself defense case and blah blah blah.
But fact remains that this kid maydie. There's gonna you know, you're
you're gonna get detained. And hesaid, would you please get all that
blood off my granddaddy's knie because Ireally don't want it to rust. And
I felt so bad for the guy, and I so related to that because
you know, pocket knives and thingslike that get passed down through the family.
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That was that was my granddaddy's knife, and so, but long story
short, he did get arrested andgo to jail that night, but he
he was the case was dismissed onthe grounds of self defense because by the
end of the whole scuffle there wasseveral females and about three males involved in
jumping on this guy, and heused pocket knife very very effectively, a
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small just a folding pocket knife,not any kind of tactical knife or whatever,
very small pocket knife to defend himself. So that's a very formidable,
very formidable weapon. Anything anything thatwe can pick up and put in our
hands that's not you know, notattached to us force multiplier. Yeah,
it's absolutely you know we joke aboutJohn Wick and the pencils and all that,
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and we kill a guy with apencil. Well, you know,
and it can be done. It'snot that you know an ink pen or
if that's what you have, Andthere's there unfortunately there's places that we go
that you can't have much else.It always, it always got me when
I'd see a charge and it wouldbe aggravated battery with a deadly weapon and
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or and it would be that somebodystruck somebody with a handgun, and I
said, well, all they didwas hit him with the hand It didn't
even didn't even like it didn't tryto kill him or nothing, just hit
him with aggravated battery with a deadlyweapon. Did an aggravated battery with a
thumb's bottle one time? Well,the one we guy mat or a husband
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clocked him over the head with aglass thumbs bottle. It was glass.
So you know, my point isis because it was classified as a deadly
weapon, it became the it becamethat really serious charge when all they did
was hit him with it. Ipicked up you know, if I pick
up a gun, I go getaway from here. And that's aggravated battery
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with a daily weapon. Well,I was aggravated battery right there, just
because the force of that blow wasso hard. Huh, I feel it.
It's no intent. I'm not gonnabe able to shoot. That's just
softening you up for the fight hereafter the show, someone got my knife,
I will shoose you over that littleknife. I'm telling you, knife
scare me. I don't like Andif you I'm I'm I'm I'm staging myself
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for court one day because if yousomebody pulls a knife on me, I'm
gonna kill them. I mean,I'm gonna shoot them. I'll put but
I'm I'm I'm not, I'm not. I'm telling you I've seen too much
and been in the built. Ifif if you were, I don't know,
you're a knife guy, guy,and and and so so if you
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had to face somebody down and theyhad a knife, they had a gun,
obviously the gun's gonna kill you quick. But I mean, if you
if we're in close, we're threeft away from each other, would you
rather me have a gun or aknife? Gun? And why it's only
dangerous in one direction? Really,knives are dangerous in all directions. And
uh, they're they're extremely hard todisarm. They're extremely hard to avoid.
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A knife and knife and knife tome, you know, like you said,
you know, I'm more scared ofsomebody who has a knife and knows
how to use it in any waythen you know, just a firearm.
Now, obviously a distance firearm,firearm rules. But if you're talking,
you're within arms lengths distance. Yeah, the knife scares of living crap out
of me. And we live atarms length distance. We interact every day
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at arms length inside that seven yardYeah. I mean, if I'm within
a step of somebody, I canusually hit them before they even see me
move, you know. And andyou know with a firearm. With a
firearm, a lot of people decideto use a firearm, you know,
as a as a deterrent. Theypull it out. They don't always mean
mean to shoot. So there there'ssometimes there's a there's a moment there.
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But guy pulls a knife out alot of times he's he's serious, you
know, and it's and it's it'sterrifying. Well, he's certainly willing to
get nasty arty. Because knife fightingis not a pretty sport, no,
not at all. Why you don'thave competitive knife fighting. No, and
and and those guys all over townthat want to come out and I get
these all the time. There,Yeah, I'm a knife fighter, and
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I'm like, you know what,I'm a knife Fighter's okay, show me,
show me the scars. You're you'renot a knife fighter. If you
don't have scars, you know,you're you might have been nicked or something.
You know, I don't know,barb wire or whatever. But I'm
not a minded Emerson booth shot possiblypossibly, but you know, with a
poem kit there was. That's that'sthat's really, you know, very scary,
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you know when you think about whatwhat a knife can actually do.
And the thing is is most ofthe people that are going to assault you
with the knife, and especially likein a law enforcement field, if somebody's
going to fight you with the knife, you're not going to know until you're
already hurt. Not if he knowswhat he's doing, if he's doing the
whole West Side Story thing where he'stossing it from hand to hand and he's
he's you know, make sure,yeah, yeah, he's not serious,
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and he's you know, well hemay be serious, but he's not he's
not skilled Jones exactly. But theguy who knows how to use one and
he's intent is there, you'll probablynever see it. You know, you'll
think you got punched, but youdidn't get punched, you got stabbed.
You know, It's it's pretty scary. Now. I get a lot of
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ladies, you know, with selfdefense, and this is where I send
them, because you guys send themones to me, but this is where
I send them back to talent,uh to finish out training. I get
a lot of ladies that, youknow, at one time they'll say,
you know, they can never shoot, you know, use a gun for
self defense and shoot somebody or whatever, but they could stab somebody. And
then I have to sit down andtalk with him a little bit, and
I say, okay, so obviouslyyou don't have a problem in killing for
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self defense because you're willing to usedeadly weapons, whether it's a knife for
a gun. You're choosing to stabsomebody, well, you have to be
a lot closer. It's a lotmessier, and you actually got to see
the light in their face. Youare so close, it's completely different.
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So you know you don't have aproblem killing, but you won't use a
gun. Well, when we starttalking about it, what it really turns
out and comes down to his gunsare loud, the women are, you
know, more and more worried aboutbecause it's that's a loud noise or whatever.
But they don't have a problem killingbecause they use a knife. But
you have to be up close personaland humans smell bat on the inside.
Sorry, they're that close when youuse a knife. Animal. Yeah,
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absolutely, but it's it's really,you know, you don't want to use
guns because they're allowed, Yes,exactly. We haven't inn a, we
haven't an am. We don't likeloud noises from the crib, and it
just it expands. And so whenwe're teaching women a lot of times and
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some men have that top of ofence, the aversion of loud noise or or
hand strength is yes or anything else. There's a whole you know, And
that's part of teaching firearms and teachingpeople's self defense skills is to get through
to what the core issue is andthen see if they're determined enough to actually
fight for their life, and thatthey are, then you've got to get
them past all that. And there'sa there's techniques that in your field,
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our field collectively and uh, youknow it's tough sometimes get them over that
hump. I know you guys arecapable of doing that. That's why I
always send them, you know,the talent if I can, you know,
help them get through those and becomeproficient with the fire. We don't
just use any instructors something. There'sgot to be people who are patient.
It takes a lot of as youas you know when you're talking to somebody
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about teaching a personal skills, ittakes. It takes uh, certain techniques
and an understanding and a level ofpatients that is priest like, all right,
we'll see y'all next week.
And welcome to the down out DoorShow. Charlie. I'm j D.
I'm great, and I'm Fred.Say hello, Bill, Hi, I'm
Bill. Okay, And so ifyou didn't get last week's show, all
right, so I'll reiterate just alittle bit here. But we recorded this
week's show a week early because well, j D, I and a bunch
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of people, and then we maystill have Fred with us. We should
be on our way back. Fred'sprobably back in court already because he's flying
around. And then we're driving becausewe can't afford airplanes and stuff. We're
in the van. Yeah, Imight have that membership in that club.
We're taking that last we're taking theshort bus up and anyway, so we're
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in South Dakota. We've been.We should be back by now, but
I didn't have a chance for corda show ahead of time, So you
might be back by now. That'sright. For another true I'm in Kentucky.
Where are you right now? Iam in somewhere in the woods and
just outside of Princeton, Kentucky,Kentucky. Yeah, that's that's if we
drop you off like we're supposed to. Oh, I'll drive the whole leg
(01:08):
from South Dakota to there to makesure I get there, because I don't
want to deal with a mad wifethat's driving up to meet me to go
deer hunting. She gets to gohunting, whether you go or not.
Take the rifles. Are you allrifle hunting? Yeah? Okay, you're
hunting deer, right, yes,well you got it. You've got a
massive monster. Well okay, yougot her a gift she had. This
(01:30):
is her Christmas present from last yearthat she's just now about Christmas again.
And but yeah, yeah, she'sI want to If I don't kill a
deer on this trip, I'll befine. Uh you know, if I
don't ever kill another deer, I'llbe fine as long as that because I
get a lot of joy out ofwatching my kids and her hunt because they
(01:52):
all enjoy it as well. Andjust the two of you, Yeah,
she's two of us. A guy, This is a not truly a guide
where we're we're hunting on private land, the gentleman's property that we're hunting on.
He actually runs a high fence operationand we're gonna talk more about that
in some later shows. Uh,it's through an outfitter here and here in
Tallahassee that that we're friends with,and he set all this up. This
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guy has a high fence operation thereand high fence operation. These are these
are pen raised deer and some ofhis he's got three hundred inch massive this
this stuff you see at the atthe bass pro shop. You know that
big massive yeah, drop times frontthat you just a Christmas tree on top
of their head kind of thing insidethe fence. That's not what I care
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anything about Christmas. A big fence. So he also he also owns some
land, some hunting land, somewoods and some alfalfa fields. He grows
alfalfa to feed the to feed thedeer inside the fence. And only are
they big rack, they're good tasting. Yeah, well we're hunting the outside
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the fence. We're hunting wild deer, free fair chase, free range,
outside the defence wild deer. That'slike I've got our I fens near hunt
those good hus We yeah no,we uh, that's not what we're doing.
We'll retract this. I don't wantto marry you anymore. But anyway,
so they kill outside the fence.He they harvest every year. He
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lets ten people a year, tenpeople per year hunt his private property.
So you're still looking a big deer, yeah, he told me. I
talked to him last week. Hesaid, on his cameras, he has
approximately twenty three to twenty five bucksdifferent bucks on camera on his property that
will score between one hundred and thirtyfive and one hundred and eighty inch.
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Correct. I saw one of theone hundred and thirty five inch deer that
was killed there last year. Itwas an eight point if so one hundred
and thirty, like a massive,massive eight point. But they also some
tens and twelves. Obviously the biggestdeer that's ever come off of his property.
There was one hundred and ninety sixinches for a wild not fenced in
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free range for a fair chase.One hundred and ninety six inch deers sea.
Yeah, because they're eating alfalfa andliving in a creek bottom where there's
big acorn dropping on around. We'resixteen miles red. If you've ever if
you know anything about deer hunt,you ever heard of this place called Land
between the Lakes in western Kentucky,And we're sixteen miles from there. We're
just on the other side of thelake from Land between the Lakes. They
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still on their logo or like theytake that off. That's the Lando,
that's Lando Lakes. No, it'sgot to zero right now. But anyway,
we're you know, I am.I did buy a here we go.
I did buy a nice video camerawith a thirty thirty power optical zoom
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and low lux capabilities for I'm goingto try it SI thirty all six cameras,
yeah, I got one in thirtyand sech cameras. It's a long
range video camera for It's really madefor doing for filming hunts because it picks
up in low light. So I'mgoing to try really hard to videotape her
killing a trophy deer if we canget all that coordinated. Therefore, she
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might get canceled. She might,but I don't think she really cares because
a long time ago. But I'mexcited about it. I'm excited about it.
I'm on you know. And hesaid, yeah, you're from Florida.
The biggest problem you're going to haveis you're you're you're probably going to
see fifteen to twenty five Yeah,rack bucks a day. That will be
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big for you. He said,you just have to be patient and be
real cautious and look it over reallygood when your binoculars, because you don't
want to come all the way uphere and do this. And that's what
it happened to me. I'd said, I'd need somebody sitting next to me.
You don't shoot, don't well,I'm going to try really hard to
contain myself and be that don't shootyet, don't shoot that one. And
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I'm sure my wife is she's killedsome nice dear she's killed at ten point
here and eight point out in Texas, and she's killed some nice deer,
but neither one of us, neitherof us have I mean, my biggest
deer is not much over one hundredand thirty inch deer that in my lifetime.
So the potential of me and herboth killing a lifetime trophy antlers.
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And in this place they put youup. They they have converted some grain
silos into grain silos into living quarters. And you're going to sleep in a
silo. I'm on sleep in asilo. But we're excited about it.
And if it works out good andit turns out to be a great trip,
we'll start passing out names and contactinformation all that kind of stuff.
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I'm not going to endorse something thator talk about somebody that if it turns
out to be mess, I'm notgoing to be able that have bought these
trips and have gone on these tripsand it wasn't a good experience and got
a dough and came back and spentyou know, two grand on a I
mean, and it's it's I alwaysI hadn't been on one one of these
days. Maybe I will, andI would rather my wife go on and
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I'm I'm here's the thing is Ieat deer and eat a little that's me.
I'm all about to hamburger. Theone rack there I've got in my
living room was it was the biggestbuck I've ever shot on my place.
I'm not impressed. You know,we've got tax dermy around here. Most
of it was donated to us.I mean, I just don't I'm on
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a trophy buck. Although we didgo pronghorn hunting, and I am enough
to where I want select slices ofthat. But I don't. I don't
go out, don't. I don't. I don't worship at the foot of
you know, an eight point aneight point that is two years old.
I want if I'm gonna shoot something. I want something that's impressive, or
I'd rather hunt on dough days,you know, get dough tagged or something
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like that. It's just eat tomeet. Yeah, she and I both
are, you know, and you'rethe same way. We've had this discussion.
For us, it's out the experience, not necessarily the it's about the
entire experience, the fact that thatshe and I are going up there,
and you know, if we bothif we both get our deer or kill
a deer the first couple of days, we got three days, we got
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five days to hunt. So ifwe tell you if we get this done
early, I told her, Isaid, you know, baby, we
ain't but about an hour and ahalf from Nashville. And she gets,
oh yeah, So I said,so you never know where, And it's
she and I get to spend fivedays together without kids in soccer and life
and you know, so it's it'sit's it's our nice little vacation. So
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and then you get to take itto a tax a dermists and wait about
a year. Yeah, I getto take it to attax the dermis up
there because I don't want to jumpthrough all the hoops of transporting all the
we'll we'll bomb the meat out andput it in the put it in the
cooler and bring it home. ButI have I have exercised a few of
the would I get in any detail, exercise a few of the depredation permits.
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We acquired here locally and have someheads and cooler waiting on a f
w C and dropped them off here. Working with our past guest on helping
with the c w D survey pollingarea surveyed over out of my way and
doing what I do in my part. Freezer's gonna be full. I got
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a feeling a new freezer might bein the I want you to, I
want you to, I want youto buck this year. I'm just we
oh, my lord, And Itold the neighbors to listen. I got
some depredation permits can be hunting,and whether a rifle you're gonna it's suppressed,
it's suppressed. So it is whatit is. So but he's just
gonna let you know what's going on. And yeah, we had thirty doze
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on cameras at one time the othernight, and I'm like, well,
he's got at helping the situation outmuch. We've got a serious, serious
oberpopulation, and I'll tell you what. I'm out there picking up one and
they're walking out of the woods blowingat me mad so, I bet that
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so Charlie's mad at the camera.Yeah, so in that last sex,
I don't know what's going on.I'm still figuring this camera thing out,
but it just quit somewhere during thesegment. There's I apologize the not that
you want to see us so muchas much. Just a bunch of guys
sitting here talking. But then again, that's the whole show. A lot
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of preparation all listen. So someguys going not anymore. It's okay.
But so yeah, anyway, Fred, you want to tell you grocery store
Yeah, man, maybe some grocerystore public story and the confrontation I wish
I would have had and didn't have. So I go to Public's. I
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had to get some stuff on theway home. I got four items in
my cart. Did it stop theitching? Yeah? So gold bond save
it. I'm on the way homeand I stopped in. This is the
Public's on tom Shawl, right bythe Interstate, and I'm in the ten
items the express you know, checkout, and in front of me is
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this granola crunching looking liberal type womangot her you know, the kind that
brings the bags and bags in therethat they reused forty times. Yeahs you
get they were like some kind ofweird looking tennis shoes that even I wouldn't
wear. And you've seen some ofthe shoes I got. And and she's
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in front of me and she's gother in seven but potent uh. And
she's in front of me and she'sgot she's got her in ninety five mask
on, and she's got about sixor seven items. And then there's a
woman in front of her, who'syou you they could have been sisters.
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Uh, you know, same granolalooking outfit, little checkout bags, and
she's got her in ninety five maskon, and there's a cute little checker
girl sitting there, and so youknow, I'm looking at the checker girl,
not really paying attention to the maskedliberal in front of me. And
and as the one in front it'sgot like thirty items in the ten item
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and that's already got me fired up. And I'm not gonna say anything,
you know, just okay, youknow. And then the one directly in
front of me with the eight ornine items, as the thirty item woman
is checking out. The one infront of me looks at the other masked
woman. It doesn't look at her, looks at the checker girl, but
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it's talking to the other masked womanand says thank you for wearing a mask,
as if to shame the checker girlfor not having a mask on.
We long past the mask, andI'm like, look, if you want
to wear a mask, wear amask, but don't sit here and passively
aggressively boy the checker girl who can'tsay anything about it. And I really
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wanted to go up and say,lady, you know, mind your room
flipping business. And I had someother things to say to it as well,
but it didn't. And then asI and I was, I got
home that night, and about threemartinis into it dawned on me, I've
got the radio. I got gottenthe radio. I got the radio show.
So lady, you know who youare probably not listening to this show.
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I'm not listening, but if youmaybe somebody of her friends are.
And let me just tell you.If you see a short ball guy that
walks like a penguin, not exaggerating, I got your number. That's about
got your numbers. I'm ready totake that class. Logan offers you you
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know better than anybody that if somethingwere to happen and they're going to go
back, and you're gonna be sittingin court. They're gonna be playing this,
and you know that was premeditated andyou went there with a forethought malice
or something like that. I justheard that. No, it's gonna be
like that waitress out there in SouthDakota and she comes out to me,
I'm hiding, mind you be carefulnow. She'll get you. She's especially
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when you're too drunk to know howto order a steak. Look stakes coming
inches. I mean you can ordera six inch steak. You can,
but people look at you like you'restupid. She did, We listened.
She thought we told that story before. Tred was going to order a six
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inch or six ounce ounce steak,a six out out steak, which you
know, grow up and get asixteen ounce steak, but six ounce sirloin,
and he ordered can his size.He ordered a six inch steak in
front of us, which was areally bad thing for pred It was.
And the waitress is known for herher She is good humor and lack of
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sarcasm, sarcastic or angry or meanat all, not a bit. And
if you go in there and youorder the the cheese bites. You might
get him on a about the thirdor fourth time. The third or Friday,
you go in there to fried pickles. That was it, Yeah,
fried pickles. So was it cheeselets? It was fried cheese curds. Che
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problem as we stopped off at thatliquor store, gun store, on the
way after the airport, and itturned out they had stole the Elite vodka,
which is like the vodka I mean, this stuff is teaching drink when
we go out of town pallet.That place had a palette of Buffalo Trace,
a pallette stacked up. I don'tknow if you notice that I'm not
looking at the vodka all. That'snot my I don't do potato whiskey,
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but corn brown brown corn whiskey.On the other hand, I do,
I do. I do like,and I really like Buffalo Trace is one
of my favorites, and it's reallyhard to get sometimes around here. You
just don't see it in the storethat often, especially not a palette of
it. But you didn't buy awhole bunch. I didn't buy it.
I don't find I bought a bottleanything. You were envious of my beaver
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pelt that I bought. Yeah,I had that Beaver make sense, Steak
and Beaver. Okay, you knowit's like and we're taking video cameras this
year. I'm thinking one of theseships I want to go. So we're
gonna be walking around. What you'redoing next week? Yeah? Last week?
What were you doing last week?I forget when it's Freddy or Bill.
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If you'll be here about one o'clockon, you know, load up
in the van. That Mercedes vanin the parking lot is leaving out of
here, I won't be able togo to this one guitar this year.
Yea cool singing some songs that gotme kicked out of some bars. I
like that. You do you knowthat? Do you have? You happen
to know the song Willy Whaling andMe by David Allen co Oh, yeah,
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I know I got all his songsnow, all right? Yeah we
can get it. And if Idon't know it, I can just pull
up and look at the words onYouTube. Make up the melody. I
can carryok it, so we cando some karaoke, we might get call,
we might have a concert and cookit. Man, this is gonna
be move your mouth. And wefound out that we think your stepfather is
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going well, when they listen tothis, we will we will know the
answer. Some won't say that storytill we get back and we can record
a post show and Robby and videos. Yeah, I mean I saw mom
at the House of the Night andI said, hey, is Robber gonna
go with us and the Roberts mystepdad and and and he never he goes
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all over the place, does stuff, but it's only where he can wear
crocs and sweatpants. And he's theonly guy I know he's got dress crocs,
you know. And you wear someblack ocks and some dogs on black
crocs and you can wear them withslacks, and most of them we're in
Marianna, So I mean, youknow that's fine. So I told her
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you got to have some you gotcroc I don't know, you know,
raise some WT forty. I'm gonnawipe them off and they follows them right
up. W D forty does alot of things, you know, It
cleans all. Yeah. Uh So, anyway, it's it's a. It's
a. It's a. Uh.So we will tell story. I'm sure
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we will tell stories, and wewill have some videotape, uh hopefully,
hopefully, well, but he wearsa size fourteen. Uh. Well,
he sent me pictures he got hewent shoe shopping. I said, well,
I don't have his shoes in thestore, but I can get you.
I can get you some camouflage stuffand some warm stuff because he said
didn't like the cold and he wasafraid he was afraid he was gonna slow
(19:33):
us down. And I said,well, you ain't gonna be the oldest
guy there probably, and you ain'tgonna be the most crippled guy there.
So I got nothing else. Youcan just go sit on end and we'll
flush the birds to you. Butjust please go. Because Fred he's got
stories too, he's got jokes too, and so uh and uh he's he's
uh so I got to have ashuck off with j D and a joke
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off with There you go, justbe before that fast. So yes,
we found out in the earlier todaythat Fred used to be a professional oyster
shucker. I was, well,I'll tell you what, if you can
prove it for about three or fourdozen we'll find out. I find out
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how good you are. We'll seeI got a quick motion with right,
I think I'm about as good withit. I'm about as good with a
sharpened screwdriver as I am with thedad gunna on. Now, if you
get Bill Logan, he might couldgive you some pointers and actually enhance your
oysters because on oysters. So,how much damage can you do with an
oyster knife? Oh? I haveseen some damage done with a yster knife.
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Really, I've actually hurt myself withan oyster knife. Sometimes he's slipping
on the shell. Man. Wasyou wearing the white boots to go with
it? Yeah? Fantasy everyone Ihad that when when when when I was
talking to Mama the other night andI said, I said, well,
he needs some water waterproof boots.And I don't mean the white panace a
night. Didn't get up there toWalmart. I mean something that I said.
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That's the only stipulation. You can'ttake them, and if nothing else,
will stop on the way and gethim something. You could drill some
holes in them white ones and havesome boot crocks. They make those.
I think they've never seen them.I've seen some cowboy boots, some crocs
with cowboy boot trying to pull onethe cowboy boot crocs, Yes, sir,
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seen it out there? Oh yeah, they just came out with them
yeah, they they did. Iwill find the picture and I will put
it on the video for the show. See if people are watching on YouTube,
they're gonna miss out. They're inlike Franklin County or that's the that's
that's the That's not the Croc FranklinCounty uses. It's the Nike version.
It's the Nike. Yeah, yeah, I guess Franklin County Nikes and Fantasy
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of Rebox. Yeah, they're thewhite boots. But I mean a Croc
Cowboy boot. Yes, you wouldfind that in like, you know,
Hop Alabama or something there you go, mobile maybe mobile closer to the water.
That could be Bamonettette Bambonette Alabama.Yeah, well I bet you we
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could find a pair in your sizebecause they got them in a kiss department.
I mean, well, you gotto wear them the cord if we
get you. That reminds me Fred, there's some girl named Candy and Bamonette
Alabama. I show up when there'sCrock Cowboy game on, game on.
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I'm not even going to Lord.We will be back in just a minute.
Serious, if we have to makeit up, be right back.
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oth I had the date wrong.It's December fourteenth, Okay, the Hilton
Gardens wherever they are, Yes,I know what I've played there before.
We saved there for a Whitting onetime, and I stayed the Holliday and
Aurist once and I thought I wasalmost the smartest fread. But you don't
want to do anyway. So HiltonGardens December to fourteenth. And so what
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we're going to be doing is Rightto Bear is going to be hosting Talent
Range and Talent training, and Rightto Bear will be hosting a Alabama Gunlass
seminar. And we'll be talking aboutbecause I will tell you because I've been
teaching some private lessons and teaching somebasic classes up there here and there,
and Alabama laws are a little bitharder to research. They're they're well,
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we're going to turn you in here, they're they're lawh school in Alabama.
I know you did well. Wedon't hold that against you. So so
the problem and fred you from obviouslyno more about it neither. In Florida,
if I want to read a Floridastatute, I just google the issue,
pull it up, look at theFlorida statutes, and I can look
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and cross reference and it clicks andlinks and goes everywhere, and I can
learn everything I want to learn aboutthe history behind it and the Senate bills,
and I find. It's a codesection book in Alabama. And I
actually prefer the Alabama the way theAlabama Statute book is written, because there's
a pretty simple, plain English wherewe got to use a bunch of three
syllable words in Florida and I haveto look them up. But where do
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you find it? I want toread a law about something to do with
guns in Alabama? Where do Ifind it? Go look at the Alabama
Code. I can't find it onthe internet. They probably don't have it
on the internet. You got togo buy a book like we did in
law school. I have a wholesection of the old section of them.
You go in. What I findis when I go looking on the internet,
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I'll find Alabama Code, but it'llbe old, it won't be like
the newest. Yeah, usually saywell it could be. I mean,
you can get it on West Law, which is where I do. So
you might google a statue. Idon't typically do that. What I'll do
is get on West Law and lookat the statute annotated and so it'll have
the notes of decisions for whatever statutethat is in different areas that have been
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litigated that interpret parts of that statute. Alabama's they've got there's an Alabama Code
annotated book. So the guy that'spicking peanuts right now on the tractor,
he wants to know what he canlegally do and not do in Alabama.
He needs coming to a seminar andquit messing around on the internet. Ye,
(26:17):
he needs to do that. Orry, he needs to go find one
of my colleagues passed, you know, six seven ore bucks an hour.
We'll talk to them. Okay,so you can get free. He said,
you have a lot of peanuts.So if you use the code word
talent and we'll put this out.You can call the range, call the
range and or find us on Facebookor whatever. But we've got this event
going on December the fourteenth at theWhat did I say? Where did I
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say? It was? Hilton Garden? Hilton Gardens, end Othan on the
circle? Is it off the serviceon the service road? So that's old
school stuff anyway, So you comethere and we'll have frontage road on the
front of the room. Yeah,that's it. So but anyway, so
come there to that event and youcan ask your questions and you'll get qualified
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legal advice basically the interpretation of whatyou can and can't do and which is
really good to know on the frontend of things, Yeah, because on
the back end of things you findsomebody like Fred. If you if you've
crossed the if you cross the linereads a bad guy or anything. I
don't want to have to ever hireyou a reasonable doubt for reasonable price.
I can. Well, it's hardto get an attorney to give you an
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answer up front. It's like,hey, what can I when they go
and they go, well, youknow, it's kind of you have to
look at and then there's the andthen but you could. But the other
thing is but then there's always aset of circumstances. Now on the flip
side of that, once you getin trouble, they will take your money
and then I'll go on up,well what you should have done? Well,
not what you should have done?Told me now, Fred actually will
answer questions, and he asked him, But then again he looks at us
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like, you know what, andwhat seort of crazy circumstances would that ever
occur? Oh? No, Iquit asking that question a while back.
On the stories that I've heard youtell, I mean the guy burned him
himself down in my parking lot.That's when I was like, all right,
it's over with now. He he'sscreaming my name turned out to have
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work dot com. Han, We'reback. We mentioned Armidela's on the break.
I just i'd mentioned something on theprevious show or maybe two yous about
my h Robert needing to continue theongoing armadilla war at Mama's house. And
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he had run out of shotgun chillfour ten shotgun channels, and I took
him a box of BBB's fool hadmess up a dela And he said,
he said, so up about thefirst dozen or so, you know,
he was shooting with whatever else hewas shooting. I was number fours,
and they would he and he gotto watch him when he tells the story,
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because he says, well, whatthey would do is that they would
they would jump up and kind ofroll over a little bit. He goes,
they just lay down. When Ishoot him with these, he said,
it's much more, you mean,ain quicker man. I shot a
armadal time with the twenty two inthe yard, and I swear to you
it is not an exaggeration. Thatthing jumps straight up off the ground.
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I mean from doing what our diggingin my yard, from digging up my
yard to four feet off the ground, just straight vertical spring and I'm like,
I was crazy. Yeah, Imean you try being as short as
I have run around with. That'sthat's a self defense at that point,
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could jump up and bushy face.I wonder if that is yeah, you
get that that you could Yeah,I ain't got my number. It's kind
of like a deer rut there inSouth Dakota. Had my number save you.
You just stay stay close to me. I mean we're going to do
the same formation. We did thesame format. All I know is if
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somebody shows up hollering Fred and thelodge, I'm gonna I'm gonna run because
you try, you might be beingstalked another person in love. It has
happened. Love. We'll do that, Love, We'll do that to you.
I didn't even hear what he said. Catch that on the last party
show. You gotta go back andlisten to that again. What was because
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old Bill sitting over to Ben quietand then just out of the blue,
he just slips that one in rightat the bell and he's sitting over holding
the work his knife. I mean, I'm not going to open it.
I'm scared of it. You needto leave that sheath on that thing.
Because it's still pretty sharp, eventhough I cut cut down a bunch of
trees with it. Yeah, yougotta know what you caant. I don't
(32:32):
play. You don't see me playingwith knives a lot, because I use
knives and I'm very proficient like butcheringwith knives, but like like playing with
knives, I'm not familiar with Neil. You're Bill, You're real familiar.
I'm sure with the Emerson wave.Oh yes, so one on the crambit
on my boot. There you go, so, uh, I know how
many weapons does he have? Hesat in the middle, He sat the
(32:54):
middle, detector off. He's acrazy knife. So Charlie and I we
went out to Uh so that's goinglater on tonight. Bill. The first
time we went to the shot showand uh, it was out in Las
Vegas. It wasn't the first time. It wasn't the first time. Anyway,
(33:15):
we went to Las Vegas to shotShow and we went to the Emerson
booth, one of the knife boothsout there. Rap's a good guy.
Yeah, pretty sure have a pictureof me. They both certainly have a
picture of Charlie at this point.Uh. Anyway, he picks up and
we're looking at night. I'm like, oh, that's a wave, that's
you know, and I'm looking atthe knife and I showed Charlie I put
the fame of pocket. I said, this is hease, what's the big
(33:37):
deal about that? And I putit in my pocket and I demonstrated,
I pulled and he goes, hegot wow, you know that's cool.
So I didn't want to try andget dear try it. I said,
here, try it. It justcatches on your pocket when you It just
catches on the edge of your pocketwhen you're pulling it out and opens a
blade up and he okay, Andanyway, he sticks that thing in his
(33:57):
pocket and he goes to pull itout and I don't remember exactly how it
happened, but immediately cut himself onthe finger with a really really sharp really
so it was cut good. Butit was only half way out of my
pocket and it was only half wayout of his pocket. So now this
knife is open, most half open, sticking out of his pocket, and
I'm holding the womb clothes and he's, yeah, he's pinching. He's pinching
(34:21):
this keep it from because it wasbleeding good. And they're like, that's
fine. We got band aids forthat. Weoll Donna. His wife decides
to help him. Here, letme get that for you, honey,
and she I tried to say,nose weight. Wait wait, and she
goes to finish taking it out.It doesn't open all the way because now
(34:42):
anyway, and she said, hegets stabbed in the farm. So now
I'm bleeding from the fore arm.I'm bleeding from the finger and I'm just
looking at the guy behind the counter. I said, you got band aids
this. He goes, oh,yeah, we got no. No,
he goes, I don't know.I have to go. Look. I'm
like, really, this is notbooth you don't have and he went back.
He was gone for a while andshe's holding pressure here and I'm holding
(35:05):
pressure here and I'm thinking this thousandpeople walking around, look at it.
Why is this guy's blood blood onthe counter, blood on the floor.
And he finally comes back with someold box. And then the next year
we go back you next year andI walk up. He goes, no,
no, no, no, I'mtaking out I remember you. I
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like nobody had ever cut theirself atthe knife booths before, like this was
something new. And of course,during this whole time, I'm being extremely
helpful the situation because I completely understandyou look all the bright's eye. At
least you can cut your pants offof then. Funny, funny you will
say that, don't use an Emersonwave future when you're sitting down, you'll
(35:49):
cut your pants off. I cutthe whole front out of my pants once.
That's why I do this. Yeah, that's why I don't. I
don't when when people go, hey, check your knife out, it's pretty
good, that's cool, just leaveit over there. Yeah. I like
the out to front eves because Iknow which direction the blade's going in.
It goes out, it comes backin automatic knives, and I'm used to
that's one thing, but this fancyHey, if you do this and do
(36:10):
that and do twist and uh,I don't want none of that. I
get that. In the out tofront eyes, most of them are.
You know, if you put anythingin front of it, it's gonna stop
it from protruding. So it's notlike you just have to make if you
accidentally activate it in your pocket.I think. I think out the front
knives are probably the safest to yourselfknife that exists, because you truly never
(36:32):
have to touch the blade. Younever have to touch the blade to open
it, to close it, todo anything with it until they don't retract
properly, and then you're having tofigure out how to do all that.
So yeah, yeah, you justopen it back up anyway. Anyway.
I just I think out the frontknives are extremely safe, especially for if
you're carrying it for self defense.It's just why I normally carry one until
(36:53):
I lose it. That's heartbreaking.Well, I mean I never like to
lose it. Lose it. Ilike set it down it or it's in
the laundry, lose it. Andit's like my microtech that I normally carry.
He's still sitting on the counter.My wife found it in the laundry.
Apparently it was I have a badhabit of losing things in clothes that
I don't wear very often. Herein Age, I lost a set of
(37:15):
heir in ads and a shirt thatI didn't wear for six months and went
brought me a new pair of heroand ads and then found them. Yep,
that's about your size. This actually, this is this reminds me of
a of a of a story realquick red buck peanut. Yeah, this
little thing, I mean, youknow, probably you know two inch plate.
(37:35):
I was bouncing uh at a ata club to silver bullet many years
ago in Montana, and uh,big guy picked a fight with a little
Mexican guy. A little Mexican guydidn't want to fight, and UH knocked
him down. The little Mexican guygot up. Big guy knocked him down
again. The little guy got up, and I just saw his hand just
move real, real fast, straightup, and that big guy hit the
(37:59):
ground and everything that was inside wascoming outside. And it was a knife
of just about that little teeny tinytwo inch blade, sharp as a razor.
I couldn't see it. Ended uptestifying at that uh you know,
court date and everything else. Hewent to prison. I don't get to
go to prison. He went toprison because of, you know, the
way things turned out in Montana,as far as the way the laws were.
(38:22):
I actually said, you know,he didn't want to fight. The
guy was twice his size, andyou know, as far as I was
concerned, it was the defensive useof a blade. But he ended up
going to prison anyway. But Iheard I've seen people shot, stab,
lit on fire, and open likea fish. And the one I'm referring
to is that little eddy bitty tinyknife you never see. That's as far
as I'm cerned. You know,some guy running at me with this is
(38:43):
going to get to in a face. Okay, But that little tiny one
you never see, that's the dangerousones. That's why knife scare me.
And I've seen knife wounds over theyears, but he sees it. Just
try and scare them all. Sowe're all going to do that. So
(39:07):
anyway, but I've seen I don'tlike knife. What's knife scare me more
than guns to? They don't run, they well exactly, yeah, yeah,
and they are they are very concealable. Most most every person has one
of some shape form or fashion andand the and they you know, you
can take them pretty much anywhere.You know, if it's a common pocket
(39:28):
knife in Florida, pretty much carryabsolutely you want to, except in the
courthouse. Carry in the courthouse.You can't stick it in your pickle pocket.
Yeah, listen to the last show. Listen to the last show.
You didn't get that joke. Didthe pickle have pockets? No? That
was a problem too, because Ieverywhere put my pen my keys, go
(39:50):
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point fifty hand back last segment.We've had the fortune of having Bill Logan
here for two weeks now. It'sbeen a long two weeks out in the
(42:22):
bill. Yeah, it seems likeforever. Yeah, you keep wearing the
same clothes. I was gonna sayit starts to smell a little bit of
fri. It's wearing the same stufftoo. I'm surprised you did do it.
I don't smell like a fire though, right. We called each anyway,
So we're front loaded a couple ofthese shows so we can go out
of town and have a good time. Yeah, y'all, y'all, y'all
playing with your little your grandpa foldingknives or reminded me of a reminded me
(42:42):
of a story I was telling workthe case one time where a guy's in
Bullwinkles and he's from out of townand he was not a college kid,
and he was in town working constructionand went into Bullwinkles wearing a cowboy hat
and some some frat boys started pickingat him, and frat boys and girls
started I had been on the receiverand then one of those one time got
(43:02):
hitting the head with a radio byone of their security people, which was
part of the frat. Yeah,until I showed up later trying to kick
the door. And that's the firsttime I met the FSU police person that
Mike guy Big and Michelle jan Iended up working for him and with her.
She trained me when I went upthere about another year later. Yeah.
So this old guy goes into Bullwinklesafter working all week putting up drywall
(43:23):
at the university on the contract,and he goes in there to get a
cold beer and sitting there bothering nobody, but he's wearing a cowboy hat and
the guy starts messing with him,and it was a little scuffle inside and
one of the girls ended up sprayinghim with pepper spray, and the guy
tries to leave and walk away fromthis whole ordeal doing the right thing,
and this is long before standing yourground laws and this kind of stuff.
(43:45):
But he's walking away and he goesout into the alleyway between Bullwinkles and Poor
Paul's, which is an alley inbetween some buildings there for those of you
that ain't familiar with downtown Tallahassee tryingto walk away, and these three frat
guys, rat boys jump on himin the in the alleyway there and continue
(44:06):
to try to get him to fight, and he pulls out one of those
little folding two or three blade pocketknives that have belonged to his grandfather and
he's hit that guy. Stabbed thatguy three times, started it basically the
top of it, you know,they're they're tussling. Stabbed him about three
times in the back, starting atthe top of the shoulder blade, and
kind of worked his way down therib cage. And uh, the guy,
(44:29):
the frat boy survived, He lived, and uh. I got the
guy up at the booking room andgetting statements and photographs and all this stuff,
and he said, uh, uh, can you do me a favor,
sir? And I'm like, what'sthat man? He is? That's
my grandpa's knife, and I reallydon't want to lose it. And I'm
like, I don't know if you'regoing to get it back or not.
But you you know, I don't. We don't know the outcome of this.
(44:50):
You may be going to prison,you may not. And I don't
know, you've got a pretty goodself defense case and blah blah blah.
But fact remains that this kid maydie. There's gonna you know, you're
you're gonna get detained. And hesaid, would you please get all that
blood off my granddaddy's knie because Ireally don't want it to rust. And
I felt so bad for the guy, and I so related to that because
you know, pocket knives and thingslike that get passed down through the family.
(45:14):
That was that was my granddaddy's knife, and so, but long story
short, he did get arrested andgo to jail that night, but he
he was the case was dismissed onthe grounds of self defense because by the
end of the whole scuffle there wasseveral females and about three males involved in
jumping on this guy, and heused pocket knife very very effectively, a
(45:37):
small just a folding pocket knife,not any kind of tactical knife or whatever,
very small pocket knife to defend himself. So that's a very formidable,
very formidable weapon. Anything anything thatwe can pick up and put in our
hands that's not you know, notattached to us force multiplier. Yeah,
it's absolutely you know we joke aboutJohn Wick and the pencils and all that,
(46:00):
and we kill a guy with apencil. Well, you know,
and it can be done. It'snot that you know an ink pen or
if that's what you have, Andthere's there unfortunately there's places that we go
that you can't have much else.It always, it always got me when
I'd see a charge and it wouldbe aggravated battery with a deadly weapon and
(46:22):
or and it would be that somebodystruck somebody with a handgun, and I
said, well, all they didwas hit him with the hand It didn't
even didn't even like it didn't tryto kill him or nothing, just hit
him with aggravated battery with a deadlyweapon. Did an aggravated battery with a
thumb's bottle one time? Well,the one we guy mat or a husband
(46:42):
clocked him over the head with aglass thumbs bottle. It was glass.
So you know, my point isis because it was classified as a deadly
weapon, it became the it becamethat really serious charge when all they did
was hit him with it. Ipicked up you know, if I pick
up a gun, I go getaway from here. And that's aggravated battery
(47:04):
with a daily weapon. Well,I was aggravated battery right there, just
because the force of that blow wasso hard. Huh, I feel it.
It's no intent. I'm not gonnabe able to shoot. That's just
softening you up for the fight hereafter the show, someone got my knife,
I will shoose you over that littleknife. I'm telling you, knife
scare me. I don't like Andif you I'm I'm I'm I'm staging myself
(47:28):
for court one day because if yousomebody pulls a knife on me, I'm
gonna kill them. I mean,I'm gonna shoot them. I'll put but
I'm I'm I'm not, I'm not. I'm telling you I've seen too much
and been in the built. Ifif if you were, I don't know,
you're a knife guy, guy,and and and so so if you
(47:49):
had to face somebody down and theyhad a knife, they had a gun,
obviously the gun's gonna kill you quick. But I mean, if you
if we're in close, we're threeft away from each other, would you
rather me have a gun or aknife? Gun? And why it's only
dangerous in one direction? Really,knives are dangerous in all directions. And
uh, they're they're extremely hard todisarm. They're extremely hard to avoid.
(48:12):
A knife and knife and knife tome, you know, like you said,
you know, I'm more scared ofsomebody who has a knife and knows
how to use it in any waythen you know, just a firearm.
Now, obviously a distance firearm,firearm rules. But if you're talking,
you're within arms lengths distance. Yeah, the knife scares of living crap out
of me. And we live atarms length distance. We interact every day
(48:35):
at arms length inside that seven yardYeah. I mean, if I'm within
a step of somebody, I canusually hit them before they even see me
move, you know. And andyou know with a firearm. With a
firearm, a lot of people decideto use a firearm, you know,
as a as a deterrent. Theypull it out. They don't always mean
mean to shoot. So there there'ssometimes there's a there's a moment there.
(48:57):
But guy pulls a knife out alot of times he's he's serious, you
know, and it's and it's it'sterrifying. Well, he's certainly willing to
get nasty arty. Because knife fightingis not a pretty sport, no,
not at all. Why you don'thave competitive knife fighting. No, and
and and those guys all over townthat want to come out and I get
these all the time. There,Yeah, I'm a knife fighter, and
(49:20):
I'm like, you know what,I'm a knife Fighter's okay, show me,
show me the scars. You're you'renot a knife fighter. If you
don't have scars, you know,you're you might have been nicked or something.
You know, I don't know,barb wire or whatever. But I'm
not a minded Emerson booth shot possiblypossibly, but you know, with a
poem kit there was. That's that'sthat's really, you know, very scary,
(49:44):
you know when you think about whatwhat a knife can actually do.
And the thing is is most ofthe people that are going to assault you
with the knife, and especially likein a law enforcement field, if somebody's
going to fight you with the knife, you're not going to know until you're
already hurt. Not if he knowswhat he's doing, if he's doing the
whole West Side Story thing where he'stossing it from hand to hand and he's
he's you know, make sure,yeah, yeah, he's not serious,
(50:07):
and he's you know, well hemay be serious, but he's not he's
not skilled Jones exactly. But theguy who knows how to use one and
he's intent is there, you'll probablynever see it. You know, you'll
think you got punched, but youdidn't get punched, you got stabbed.
You know, It's it's pretty scary. Now. I get a lot of
(50:27):
ladies, you know, with selfdefense, and this is where I send
them, because you guys send themones to me, but this is where
I send them back to talent,uh to finish out training. I get
a lot of ladies that, youknow, at one time they'll say,
you know, they can never shoot, you know, use a gun for
self defense and shoot somebody or whatever, but they could stab somebody. And
then I have to sit down andtalk with him a little bit, and
I say, okay, so obviouslyyou don't have a problem in killing for
(50:52):
self defense because you're willing to usedeadly weapons, whether it's a knife for
a gun. You're choosing to stabsomebody, well, you have to be
a lot closer. It's a lotmessier, and you actually got to see
the light in their face. Youare so close, it's completely different.
(51:12):
So you know you don't have aproblem killing, but you won't use a
gun. Well, when we starttalking about it, what it really turns
out and comes down to his gunsare loud, the women are, you
know, more and more worried aboutbecause it's that's a loud noise or whatever.
But they don't have a problem killingbecause they use a knife. But
you have to be up close personaland humans smell bat on the inside.
Sorry, they're that close when youuse a knife. Animal. Yeah,
(51:37):
absolutely, but it's it's really,you know, you don't want to use
guns because they're allowed, Yes,exactly. We haven't inn a, we
haven't an am. We don't likeloud noises from the crib, and it
just it expands. And so whenwe're teaching women a lot of times and
(51:57):
some men have that top of ofence, the aversion of loud noise or or
hand strength is yes or anything else. There's a whole you know, And
that's part of teaching firearms and teachingpeople's self defense skills is to get through
to what the core issue is andthen see if they're determined enough to actually
fight for their life, and thatthey are, then you've got to get
them past all that. And there'sa there's techniques that in your field,
(52:22):
our field collectively and uh, youknow it's tough sometimes get them over that
hump. I know you guys arecapable of doing that. That's why I
always send them, you know,the talent if I can, you know,
help them get through those and becomeproficient with the fire. We don't
just use any instructors something. There'sgot to be people who are patient.
It takes a lot of as youas you know when you're talking to somebody
(52:44):
about teaching a personal skills, ittakes. It takes uh, certain techniques
and an understanding and a level ofpatients that is priest like, all right,
we'll see y'all next week.
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