March 29, 2025 • 51 mins
In today's episode, the Talon guys discuss how Charlie has gotten into homesteading (with his violent turkey), and the recent SCOTUS decision that related to ghost g*ns and how that will impact upcoming g*n policy.
Thanks, as always, to Captain Paul Tyre for joining the show. If you’re interested in going fishing with Paul, visit his Facebook page.
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Thanks, as always, to Captain Paul Tyre for joining the show. If you’re interested in going fishing with Paul, visit his Facebook page.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
And welcome to the tell An Outdoor Show. I'm Charlie
and I'm j D.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I pred Captain Paul tyre back and I'm Grant.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yeah, okay, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Thank you sir, miss y'all dale, hail the game goal.
We had a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I know, man, what's that time of year? He busy
working while we didn't hear goof we had we're.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Doing that been too. I don't know what's going on.
It's been crazy.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Three weeks of full moon.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, I mean it's been busy. I haven't been able
played with like two rounds of golf and you'd like
to hit all on one like every time, every third
time you go this The chances of that happening again
are astronomical.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I mean, Paul does go fishing every day. I mean,
you know that's that's what kind of life is that? Man?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Terrible, I'll tell you what. Especially just everybody out there,
the shell cracker getting ready.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
It's so close.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Gosh, it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
It seems that way because there's some individuals across the
pond from me that tend to fish with cane poles
and sit on buckets. It's that time of year, I've
been seeing them come out.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I got I gotta. I got a date. Soon as
this show's over. I'm hited out the door. You got
a date, fishing date. My daughter, My daughter and her boyfriend.
I told him I take them to sea. I think
we're gonna go to uh Lake. Monkey business there.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
That's a good place to go.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
As long as you wisdom. You don't want the monkey business.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
What right, we're not. We're not going around no monkey business.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
My daughter put my wife hit me up the other night,
says Jesse wants to go to Dothan Saturday with her
little friend. And she refuses to call him my boyfriend.
But she and I'm like, I was just Doathan. There's
nothing to do with Marianna. So we I said, when
I was a kid, we went to Dothan. She looked
at me and I went, yeah, I don't know it's
a good idea either. They going to Bible, and I said,
(01:59):
you know, he's seventeen, she's seventeen. He's eighteen or seventeen,
I don't know what it is. But she goes to
Chipola and the duel enrollment thing is a junior at
the high school, which I'm proud of her for but
she meets these little college boys, well, the Chipola college boys. JD.
Do you remember those days?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I swear to.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
See I know what, but but you know it's it's
it's that phase in life when you move on.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
And I know what I was like. I wouldn't let
anybody's daughter day men.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
She's she's she's one of those, she's super smart. I
would love her to death. Beautiful girls got what going on,
which means I'll kill him. Son. If you ever hear this,
just know, but you may not hear. Well, it'll be
hard to hear from six feet down.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Allie's little Well, it started out there's he was the
friend boy, and now it's the boyfriend. You know when
it has to be She goes, he's gonna have to
ask me. It's gonna have to be official, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Okay, Well, how do they do that?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Well, they took her out to dinner on Valentine's Day
and gave her some candy and stuffed animals and flowers,
and as asked her to be his boyfriend. I guess
I don't know how that works. Like a promise, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Now I'll give him some good spots.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, now, now we'll share the good spots when he's
a good kid. He's on the child's bass fishing team.
He turkey hunts. I think he's killed two turkeys this
year already, maybe three. So he hunts and fishes. I
like him a lot. But they told him i'd take
him fishing this evening.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
So you're just need to make sure the boundary is set,
you know, anything inappropriately.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I've shown him all the dead animals on the wall,
and you know, the gun guys. I've shared some some
of my cool guns with him. You know. Yeah, I'll
probably get you at six hundred yards seven hundred yards
of this you you know, you that big thing on
the end, that's the pressure.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Only he got any pictures of like dead people are crying.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
And I do get you an old ready looking uh
uh animal hide lamp shade and go. You know that's
what people skin looks like out there, when't you?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
He's a good geezer, really is a good kid. They
actually met at Young Life, which is the Christian based
group gathering they do on Mondays.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
And uh, I thought that's one of those weird websites,
you know.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
No, it's not, Charlie is that it's not one of those.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
My middle child he met his wife at church and
that's yeah, that's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, but we're anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You know what I said about preachers and cops, kids
and stuff, the worst, they're the worst.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Well, my wife is there, you go and she and
she ended up with you, Fred.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, we met in a bar.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
If my wife told me if we had met at
the river front where we both hung out, that she
would not have gone out with me. She said, I
wouldn't have dated you if I had met you there.
But we go there, that's different. I said, I'm glad
I met you in the hallway Shriff's office then, because
you know, that's even anyway.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah, the Baptists call them peaks.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
What's the PK.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Preacher kid, preacher kid, that's what the Baptists call them.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Rich people call them pj's and private judge.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
No, no, it's just you have to watch out for
the p k's.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Got you rich, You got kids, so you know, hey, rich,
they took all my money.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Your wife us, she got money.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, she got to keep hers. They took mat.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Oh, well that's such as such as life. There's a
couple of events coming up. I can't remember what it was.
There was something, Oh uh, what was it?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
We're looking at me for I don't know what's floating
around that little.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Well I did. I do want to make it now.
So there was a couple of things coming up. I
was talking to sheriff overing Jackson the other day and
they've got a they got a couple of farm safety
classes coming up. The Sheriff's office does over there. I'm
up at Chappole's range, which is you know, it's an
introductory foot in the door, talk to you a little
bit about gun safety and let you shoot. A couple
(05:56):
used to do that first shot, Yeah, first shots kind
of deal. And it's just basically designed. It's it's funded
bath DLLE and it's a grant and they get to
to you know, get the deputies out with some civilians
and show them a few things. And but there again
it's it's it's to open the door to people that
are interested in it and make sure they understand how
not to shoot a hole in the wall and yourself
(06:17):
in the foot and it's good stuff. Leon County just
announced the other day they did one class for anyway,
So They've got three more classes coming up out at
Pat Thomas. Uh Len count is using the same grant
and they're doing the same thing. It's sort of us
first steps foot in the door. You know, if you
if you're if you're not real comfortable coming out here
(06:38):
to a full blowng eight hour day and getting that
level of training on your first try, which you really
should be comfortable doing because we use the same instructors
that they do. Plus some of our people, the the
Sheriff's off Lyncounty Sheriff's Office. Go to their website or
their Facebook path. I think these classes are full now,
but on April the twelfth, the twenty six and on
(07:00):
May the tenth, But.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It doesn't does that get you a certificate?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
No, you don't get a Concealed Weapons Class certificate or
any hour or anything like that. But you know, you
get to go out to Pat Thomas the only time
you'll ever go to Pat Thomas. You get to go
out there to Pat Thomas and shoot some of the
Sheriff's officer's ammunition and their guns. And then and then
when you're done, you can come here and we you
know where you can access and get additional training. But
(07:28):
you know, I think it's cool that sheriff's offices and
public safety officers are getting out there trying to promote
gun safety in the community. Lord knows, we've been doing
it for how many years? A long time and have
trained tens of thousands of people over I think.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
We incorporated in eighty.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Two thousand and eight. We so I know we've been
doing this for years.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I don't know how long. I can't do that matter.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
We've trained probably over eighty thousand people, very extensive, and
our class is like eight hours long, you know, nine
hours long, and you shoot all kinds of different guns,
and we spend an hour on just the law and
gun safety is additional. We do scenario based training. We
just spent like another twenty grand on another scenario machine
to do scenario based training, you know. So you know,
(08:19):
our we're not free.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
How big is the classroom? How many people are in?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
We don't have more than about sixteen eighteen people at
a time.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I think we can accommodate twenty.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
We can, but typically try to cast around around eighteen.
And we've divide the class up halfway through the day
at lunch, and we send some people to the range
and some people to do scenarios so that you're you're
fully utilizing the entire day.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I think you get lunch for it too.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
We feed you lunch, we give you some swag, give
you a T shirts, you get eyes and Ears, and
we give you Talent Range branded eyes and Ears. There's
a lot of there's a lot of overhead goes into it,
plus instructor expensively. J D and I don't make a
ton of money on it, but it is part of
what we do here, so we don't want to lose
that to the government. But at the same time, you know,
(09:04):
at least these Shriff's offices and all are not going
full board and doing the level of training that we do.
So you know there's people that that quite frankly, you know,
can't afford you know, our classes, and we hate that.
But the fact is it costs a lot of money
to put them on and every year we have to
reevaluate that cost. You got the taskpayers paying for it.
(09:25):
That's a different story, you know, but it's you know,
like I said, uh, those are the dates. Go to
their Facebook page and you know, consider consider showing up
out there, or you can just go to our Facebook
page or our website and just sign right on up
for an all day class and and go home with
some swag and certificates and can get you ton sel
(09:46):
carry permit and shoot a bunch of different guns. And
at the end of the day you can walk right
in our store and buy one of those guns that
you you shot. Hey, we'll be right back. Have you
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we're back. So yeah, we got at. I do want
to remind everybody that coming up to Friday before Easter,
isn't there something that they call that something?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Don't they master?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
It's good, it's a good day.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I know that good Friday.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, there you go, that's which day.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
No, that's good for okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
On the April eighteenth, coming up a couple of weeks
the Marianna FFA. It's a fundraiser for the FFA, is
a sporting clays tournament. There is a morning session and
an afternoon session. It's big enough we have to split
it into two. And it is in Marianna at my farm,
and all that information is love. My wife hates the
fact that they have to give out our address. Do
(11:32):
keep in mind that I have video cameras everywhere, and
I know exactly how far everything is from my shooting
station on the front end of the rear to house, and
so don't ever come messing with me. Motion activated mailbox
three hundred and ninety nine yards to the front mailbox.
I'm just saying I treat it like four because it
can be that far off. Yeah, that's not even I
(11:53):
don't even have to hold over on that. All that turkey,
and you won't hear it. You won't hear it. You'll
hear the turkey. And I've got a guard turkey. And
and the dogs and now goats, pigs, got two pigs now.
And the chickens between all the chickens and everything else,
you get them ugly hogs. Yeah, the coney kennies there, man,
(12:14):
I got that old girl, that old girl, uh, Joelne, Jolene.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Easy, now, Jolne easy.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
She you can't tell when she's standing up and laying
down because her legs are so short. And she gets
up and all you hear is you all you here?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
You can't roll one out there like that because me
and Fred are both sitting here with the bat caught back.
Just read to knocked that one. I had to party,
Oh it just worried.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
She when she finally gives up. All your hear is.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
That sounds like me in the morning.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Now hang on, and and I and I purposely to
get her some to get her some exercise. When I
go out there and feed her and I go slanging
some crack corn and some and some and some. Wow,
all I got some goat feed right now. But out
there and I'll pick up I'll pick the far end
of I'll pick the far end of the of the
hog pen to put it in. And she'd get up
(13:04):
and she'll go. And this little little boarhg. He runs
the one end of the other, runs around in circles
and stuff. He just doesn't know there's net cutting time
coming up, and he's gonna get he's getting the down
the road.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
But uh, he's he's gonna be a bar hog for loan.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Well, I got my my fence is supposed to be
done here by the time this show airs, and I'll
have my gates up and and they go into pasture
and then I'm going cow shopping. So I'm and thanks
again to bow Wells and Hooking w for getting our
barber O fence put up in a timely fashion. And
I highly recommend bo uh if you're trying to get
(13:42):
some major fencing done. He runs a couple of crews
and man, it's some good looking stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Up the picture you and your wife standing out front
of the house.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You hold the pit yeah on him on the pitch
board American Gothic, some shovels and and a rake press freend.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I do art work.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I don't even have a hoe.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
I got I got two hos I need to get.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I want one of those with the spinning things.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
One of the beach. I have a hoe for pulling
hecens what.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Oh the weeds?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, okay, it'll probably be a good for potato rake,
with potato rake and perfect get So you're just you'd
call it a weed.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I just fence it in and took two pigs on
it and let them eat whatever weeds. I won't pull
it up. I'm scared they're gonna get out and getting
our blueberries because they're looking pretty good. I have gone
full blown homesteader. Now, if you hadn't picked up on that.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
How many acres is yours? A farm?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
A lot?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
There's a lot of acres.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
It's it's it's more than I put this way. I
fenced in a corner of it and that was forty
five so.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Cleaning room for the for the and all the animals.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, well's quail hunting on one end. I've got the
quail pins up across the road on daddy side of
the road, and then you we've got started doing some burning.
I went out and was going to burn a little
pile last night. Just there was like just a few
little bushes I had piled up down where they had
been clearing the fence, and it was them it's below
the size that you can burn. It's like eight foot pile.
(15:15):
And took the flame thrower and drove off. And I
came back after I went up and fed the birds,
and I get back to the house and I look
and there's this glow on the horizon and I'm like,
that's not eight foot pile. Well, apparently next to the
eight foot pile was about forty yards of underbrush that
it was surrounded by water and all places I had
(15:38):
already burnt and had did I had already. It just
didn't burn the other day when I had burned, and uh,
my wife comes home and she's like, what is going
on back there? And I went just like you see
all that smoke is they won't see the smoke at
night burning.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I think, Uh, I have all plantations. There was a
bunch of control burn. Charlie's man, I breathe, that's all
I get to breathe with all the plantations up where
I been on this way. The wind's going out. Look
out in the yard.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I can't see California downtown though yesterday.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Oh yeah, it's been out here.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
This is this far burning off seminole land between spring
just seems like a spring came a little earlier this year,
and it Norman, we already got the squiggles out.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
It started on. I looked the count it's the same day.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
No, no, no, I mean, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I seldom know what you're talking.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
The blooms are coming in earlier than they do.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Oh man, I tell you.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Riding through my neighborhood through clarn Lakes, the uh. I
don't know what. I don't know what's different about the
weather of this year. But the Cherokee rose, you know
the Cherokee rose is it's a vine has a little white, yeah,
or big white flowers on it. All the oak trees
all over the neighborhood. If you got these Cherokee roads blooming,
all blooming at one time, they are just absolutely gorgeous
right now. And everybody's as as are blooming occasion, the
(16:55):
occasional dogwood.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
I mean wondering if I waited too lake plant. I mean,
I've got pretty much everything in the around.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Keep putting the order to it. It'll be all right.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
That's what it did.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
I got the peppers in peppers in last weekend and
I grew up an entire row of ghost peppers.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Just for you, Charlie. We should have a pepper eating contest. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Have you seen have you seen the guys on on
what the thing on the Instagram, know the TikTok channel
that it might be that that sit around and eat
nasty food and the guy that that the wretches all
the time.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
They're from here in the Panhandle somewhere.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Those guys, most of us. Those guys are funny, eating
everything from Rocky Mountain oysters to pigs freet to hot stuff,
trying hot stuff, and people is right in and challenge
them to do this stuff. And I can tell you
on every video, somebody's puking. When you get the guy
on the left the puke, then it's bad. But the
(17:56):
guy on the right, he's gone puke.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
He's like bread. Yeah, you talk about it.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I think they ought to try some some coop poop
and crackers.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Have they done that? Have they done that fermented fish stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yes, well it was fermented shark. I think it was
fermented shark. And it was it was, I mean, it's
I think it's stunk before they opened the thing. It
was just what.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I can't remember because of that, because of that reaction.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I already had about with it.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
This morning brushing my teeth, I got one of those
tooth brushes that does this, and it stuck it back
too far.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
And what's wrong with you?
Speaker 5 (18:44):
You asked me that fifteen times a day?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
What in what way do you mean?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Now?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
So, I don't know if y'all know this. We had
a Supring Court decision came out this week.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Uh on the ghost guns.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, have you read the pin Guns?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I did not. I haven't read it yet.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
So the opinion is, uh, it's pretty what's different about
this opinion has got a bunch of pictures in it.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
That's odd, Yeah, color pictures.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
So on both the descent and because Thomas did a
descent later did a descent, Thomas, I'm I'm in line
with him on this.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I mean, I'm surprised that the you know, Roberts didn't
surprise me, but I'm surprised at gorst. He wrote, the majority.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
So what was the gist of it.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
The gist of it is whether or not the ATF
could expand the definition of a firearm to include a
ghost gun kit. The particular kit in this case was
labeled as a by build shoot kit. It's a disassembled
ghost gun.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Basically that the lower with the rest of the gun
or yea.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
And they got to you know, if you look at
the picture of the ghost gun at first glanced, you'd say, well, yeah,
I mean that the looks fire arm to me, and
it does. It doesn't look much different in the glock.
But then if you go look at Justice Thomas and
he starts saying, okay, let's look at the kit, and
then he's got like, here's a picture in here. I
(20:19):
was just looking at it earlier. And the question is,
can you expand the definition of a firearm that Congress
narrowed in nineteen sixty eight from the nineteen thirty eight
rule that would have included a ghost gun if you
looked at the nineteen thirty eight I was a gun, the.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
GF Act or a National firearm play Okay, the.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
National Firearms Act of thirty eight, then the Gun Control
Act of sixty eight narrowed the thirty eight decision. So
the thirty eight decision had it wasn't a decision, It
was a statute passed by Congress.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It was an act.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
It was at which is where laws are supposed to
be made every time. Yeah, and apparently we got a
few members of the Supreme Court that have diverted from
what they told us when they got confirmed that they work.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Well, what about the Chevron different what about the chevron
difference decision? How did it not infringe on that laid
it very very recent decision on their part, that says
regulatory agencies camp.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So this this is a picture that I'm looking at.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
That's the jig and the that's the lower itself and
the jig that's put it in there to.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Not a fiarm firearm And you can see the only
difference is that this has a couple of screws and
parts that go to it.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Those are drill bits actually, and that is a the
So you got the not complete receiver and then they
were selling a jig. So is it a tool that
clamps onto it that shows you where to drill the
holes and what parts of the receiver to mill out
to make it a functional receiver in that it will
(21:53):
it will hold the parts that you need to make
that other piecework.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
So can the ATF define that as a.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Fire they can define that in the photos And this
is page you can google the opinion.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It's called so we lost, We lost?
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Okay, that's what.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
I was in We lost seventy two And I just
I've got a problem.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Well, that's that's not a bunch of metal and a
forge and an old guy making a musket right there.
That's uh, that looks like a gun part and all
you have to do is drill out three holes and
it becomes a firearm. It's actually I don't agree. I
don't agree.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
It's actually more than that, Charlie. You got to drill
out the holes and then you have to go into
the interior of the receiver and mill out the space.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
But yeah, I just I don't do you give them
an inch and they take them out.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
But it's still still legal to make your own gun though,
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you summarize what this means?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, So they get into the The.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Case dealt with the statutory definition of the word weapon,
which includes frames and receivers and what they wanted. What
this decision addressed is whether you have an unfinished frame
that that is, you know, you've got a frame for
your barrel and an unfinished receiver that you actually have
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to like drill and make.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Is that a weapon? And the court ruled that it was.
And I don't like the decision. I think it expands
the definition of a frame and a receiver when you
talk talking about unfinished parts, and when you do that,
that is not a court's job to do that. That
is the legislature's job, Congress's job.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Well, and that's exactly what the whole Chevron difference case
was about with dealing with the EPA and saying basically
the Chevron Difference case, correct me if I'm wrong, for
it said that bureaucratic agencies do not have the authority
to make law and then enforce that law within their
within their department, if you will, or within their bureaucers.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Well, it's said, under under circumstances that would change the
definition of the law, they can't do that. So, in
other words, if they're if Congress gives an administrative agency
rule making authority, which it does, I don't think they should,
but it does they can't go in and write the
rule to change the definition of the statute.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
That's whatever. On deference said, that's exactly what this court is.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
What you're saying is the ATF has interpreted that item
just being something that's based on their interpretation of what
they see.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
And they and and they're doing so, as Justice Thomas writes,
and I agree with him. In doing so, they've changed
the definition of a weapon.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
They've expanded it.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
So it's it so in my mind that I'm taking
the I'm taking the devil's advocate view on this thing.
So they've given the ATF the discretion to decide what
something is that they're looking at based on their.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Which marked my word, Yeah, which marked my word. Here
here's here's what's next. The top half so an AR fifteen,
which is what they're going after. There's, hands down, there's
no question what they're going going after. Even though ars
are used in a really small percentage of crime, where
handguns are using a very large percentage of crime. They're
going after the AR fifteen. The AR fifteen has a
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two piece receiver. It has the lower receiver and the
upper receiver that are clamshell that fit together and get
held on with two different pins. Mark my word. Upper
receivers will be deemed to be a firearm because they
don't like the fact that Grant can order a upper
receiver for his existing serialized transferred after a background check,
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paperwork trail lower receiver. He can go by a different
upper receiver and clamp it on there. So they're going
they hate you. They have changed the exactly that's exactly
what I did on your You.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Just we just switched out the barrel. That's it. Yeah,
it's the same gun.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
So you can change the caliber, you can change the link,
you can change a lot of things you can do.
They're a very modular system. It's no different you buy
a Harley Davidson, the first thing you do is start
bolting crap on it, because that's what you do. You
buy a four wheel drive pickup truck when you're reading
it and you start putting draft on it. Or you
buy a Prius and you're Charlie Strickland you put a
lift kit on it. You know.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
But yeah, so there, I guarantee you the next the
next thing they will do. You will see this is
the ATF will try to try to say, I.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
Don't think they're gonna do it under Trump, but if
he ever gets out of there, they are.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, exactly, And I don't I don't want to say
the next thing that that next thing might not come
around for ten years or eight years or whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Many year sixteen.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Well, probably part of this, but it's coming. Part of
this is down.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Part of this is also industry driven, because when it
was just a chunk of illuminum that looked vaguely like
an AR fifteen, and you had to really do machine.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
When it was forged into the original forging.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
And that that was like okay, well, yeah, you can
turn that in, but it's still just a chunk of
met and okay, okay, we're going to refine it a
little more. We're gonna refine it a little more. We're
gonna refine it.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
We're gonna find it eighty person and now now now.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
We're onan US. Refine it, put it in a jig,
give you the drill bits and instructions on how to
turn it into a gun. If the industry doesn't push,
then they don't get the push back sometimes, but how
do you test.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
The lava also allows for you to make your own gun. Yeah,
you atf rules allow for you, Charlie Strickland. If you
want to go build your back, you can build it.
You just can't buy a kit that's going to help you.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And so you So there's a certain amount of balance,
and I don't know that a statute is ever going
to really clear that up either. Anyway, we'll be backing the.
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And we're back. This is one of those days where
we have all the political discussions off the break more
than we do on the on the air. It's hard
to tell sometimes when we're actually recording when we're not there,
So don't worry.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I'm keeping track of it all. Are you just sticking
in my crawl this week? Is these dog all Tesla vandals?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Well, they were the ones that were applauding Tesla not
long ago when telling us we all had to drive
electric cars and we were mandated to do it. And
then all of a sudden, now they're wanting to set
them all on fire.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yeah, and Kim and you got these guys in pajamas.
First off, if you're wearing pajamas and you're a dude,
and you're over twenty.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
And sixteen, let's let's go sixteen.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
All right, fine, I'll go there. If you're a dude
and you're wearing pajamas in public, you ought to be
imprisoned as a domestic terrorist to begin with, because you
already terrorize me wearing you're Leelu and Stitch pajamas walking
around in public.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Well, I mean there should be. There should be at Walmart,
you're going to expect that kind of Well, there's an
exception beyond Walmart. Yeah, no, if you're traveling to or
from a local Walmart.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
From the range, there.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Is an exceptions. That's the Walmart exception. It's written in
the dude's code.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Sir, sir, I'm sir. I'm depustracting woman some Shires. For
the reason I stopped you, Tony is because you're behaving erradically,
driving all over the road and you're wearing you're wearing wearing,
wearing the ones that you can Is there any reason,
any reason for this behavior? I'm going to Walmart. You
have a good have a good one, you have a
good evening. Yeah, ten resolved?
Speaker 5 (31:19):
You know back when the Elphis sa iguana was. He
wasn't as mean as he was. I used to carry
him in Walmart just to get rid.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Of course you did. I got a chicken on Charlie,
Charlie working on the shoulder, Chicken that you're gonna get
you one of them leatheret. Make you a leather gauntlet,
you know, like they wear, like like the falconry gauntlets.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Get you a leather gauntlet and park that chicken up
there on it and go into the walmarts. It is
my tax chicken, y'all.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
But back up, I'm gonna I'm gonna teach that chicken
the poop on demand.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Look out, leave that damn chicken.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
You ever seen you ever seen a chicken button? Know
why I look at this?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
You can't get it.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I have had. I have two incubators with six turkey
eggs in each, one right now seven and one just
just what we had. My wife went out the other
day and looked at Lacey the turkey and said, hey,
baby girl, and she squatted down and popped the egg
out and walked off. There you go, there you go,
that's what I think you.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
You sent me a video Saturday. We were up at
h up there at the soccer game last Saturday, uh
playing the a Back College. And she sent me a
video of her petting your your turkey that don't like
your your your gobbler. He ain't no Jake anymore. He
might be named Jake, but he is far from a
Jake anymore.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Jacob, Yeah, Jacob's son was.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yes, he was anyway, just loving on that thing. And
he's just sitting there letting her petty and everything.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
He wasn't let me put water. I was heading out
here today and I looked over there, and she told
me last night I hater her out of water. I
went over there and I put some water in the
bucket and I'm trying to set it over the fence,
and I got a turkey in my face flapping his
wings trying to hit me. I'm like, you know, if
it wasn't for those chickens that I actually care about
that are thirsty, I would let.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
You just so. You need to have you a dog.
You need to get you a doug well. You need
to dig you a well out there and be like
old Clovis led Beetter and Uncle Versey told him to go.
What are the chickens, and he gathered was run there
gathering the chickens up and throw them down in the
well and said, y'all drink there's plenty of it, he said,
they he said, they drawed feathers up out of that
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well for six months.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Have you considered trying music therapy on that turkey?
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Go there and playing the song, playing some music. You're
gonna keep on and get some lead therapy. Six l
I could fix.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Oh, we got the guys that uh, the guys that
are building the fence right now are not from around here.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
You told us about last week up there.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
They show up and there they pulled in there in
the morning, and if Pabo Loco is out, it's Pavo loco.
If Pabo Loco is out, they sit in the truck
till my wife goes out there and puts the turkey up,
and then they get out of the truck. They got
and and to think that I had my dogs and
the turkey both had them hemmed up. The dogs and
the turkey sort of had a stand off in the
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yard and they were in the middle. And I don't
Donna said, I don't know which I don't know which
ones they were scared of but one or the other
had them staying in the truck. I'm like, what that
cutting in our fence building time you go out there
and running them and so uh the turkey anyway.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Something to bring that turkey taco?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
They eat it, They eat anything. They're pretty uh there there.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
We feed them table. Now now that we got the pigs,
most of the table scraps are going to the pig
pen shred.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Laugh. That's some of the kind of noises I make
every morning, getting up, trying to get up out of
the bed, all getting all the joints working, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
So I've had a lot of pigs in when when
we were younger. That's what drove my brother to go
to law school with growing up on the pig farm
he had. He left, he went to law school sitting
I have to work like that again.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
You don't make noises like that. Fred, there's a really
I got You ain't got nears many metal parks in
you as I got in me.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Maybe that's what it is. Don't make no noise.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
The metal joints get rusty at you know, during the
night when you lay there still it you got to
get up and get things moving around. In the morning.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
No, the only noise you heard my wife yelling at me?
Why are you not up yet?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
I don't doubt that.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
That's about the only noise I get.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
You can I control my schedule. I'll get up when
I want to. You Tell her that, Yeah, I'll do
I will.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
She will be mean, she will beat him.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Tell you you don't rule me.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I will do what I want. Woman do that, Tell her.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
That, yeah, I call her a woman all the time.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yeah. Can you go ahead? Then let me know how
it goes, because I like to try it, but I'm
scared to.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
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That's the best wedding or best marriage advice I can
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Speaker 2 (36:08):
Well now that it's getting warm, it makes life.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Easy five minutes later. Forget what you don't even remember.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
You gotta do nothing. You just gotta say forgiveness.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
La.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Sorry, I'm an idiot. I apologize.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I got distracted, yep, but I meant to do it.
But thank you for handling that honey.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Now that it's getting warm, water start coming out at night,
and you know, I like catch them at night and
wife sleep and I'll take a picture with one on
her head. Yeah, they'll walk at your next morning water snakes,
and that that does wonders for our marriage.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Man, I hate no telling what my wife would do
to me. She don't like we've got those little it's
some kind of it's not a native creature. It's a
little gecko, a little brown sand color little geckos all
over the our front porch and our back porch. And
I like them because they eat the bugs.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Then, living as close to the lake as I do,
mosquitoes are in no short supply around my house most
of the time. And buddy, you let one and things
fall off, the fall off the door frame when she's
walking out the back door to let the dog out
or something at night, and she don't she's not not happy.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
With that at all. No amphibians whatever, none of them.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
It's getting to be that season when when the palmeadow
bugs are gonna be flipping around here and there, and
my wife it gets very unreasonable.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
These things will attack you.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Oh, I've seen what your wife do is uh uh huh.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
So it was the cotton Exchange in uh in In
in Savannah. One went crawling across the wall when we
sat down to have dinner up there and she yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Everybody in the restaurant knew there was a roach on
the wall near near.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Us that but we went back this year. She enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Huh.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Now there was a fly, the palmetto bugs that fly
across the river.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
That what it was.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
It just didn't take off.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
It seemed like every time I'm around when they want
to do it all park.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Under an oak tree and leave your windows down. Are
you in there? I had an infestation when I was
a kid or palm met A bo had man had
to come spray to extra to spray the car, they
roaches running over.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I tell you, I tell you about the story that
had the guy at Walmart on the east side of
town on the Parkway that had the roaches in his
Uh had the roaches in his car and he went
to the Walmart and got the got the roach bomb.
So I get a call one night, I drive as
a watch commander, I drive out. I drive out to
the Walmart because there had been a explosion and I
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get there and there's a Ford Bronco or explorer sitting
out there with no windows in it, and all the
air bags are deployed. And the guy went in and
got him a roach bomb bomb, a bug bomb and
put it in there and set it off while he
was in it. And then he while, well, well he
got out, he set it off. He went and got
back into thing to drive away, and he lit a
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cigarette and it went boom and deployed the air bags
and blew out the windows. And uh yeah, they thought, well,
they thought it was like a terrorist attacker. There was
a car bomb and there was a vehicle blew up.
There was an explosion, and so I ease out there.
We're like, well, let's go see what's going on.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
And questions did he live and did the roaches?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I don't, Well, he couldn't hear anything he was telling him.
So that was one of those I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
I don't know all the bug bombs this night.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I got out of there before the generated paperwork, and
we'll be right back.
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I'm so hun Seama, take a fish eating I'm ready
to go fish it you it is BB yeah, yes, sir,
right now to the faster. I would say on a
seminal about halfway through the spawn. I know on talk
when they've been spawning pretty good too, and all the
lakes from around area. You've been seeing any big one
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around your pond?
Speaker 5 (41:01):
I hadn't looked them to look this weekend, Yeah, take
a lizer. This about time when they start doing it.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
I think, yes, sir, it sure is. And we got
a new moon Sat when the show comes on Saturday.
But man, I tell you, I think the shell Cracker
they usually start in April, but it seems like I'm
wanting to see them, you know what I mean. I'm
thinking it's late, but it's not there. I'm thinking the next.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Week far off from April.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
So well, I know we're not. It's coming, and I'm
starting to see them kind of gather, but not really
seeing it on.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
The bed yet.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
But that's that's that's gonna be fun. I think this
year is gonna be really good.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
So I got a question for you. I've heard two
schools of thought on this.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
I'm interested to hear yours. If you take a female
bass off the bed and release it back, does it
do anything to that bass? No? You know what I mean,
catch your release?
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Well, did she go back to the.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
She go back to the bed? And how far are
we taking her? Just right there. Just take a picture
of it and release it. No, don't go right back,
go right back to the bed. Catch it again.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Yeah, No, she ain't gonna buitye that no more.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Again. Yeah, she might not buite that one. But they
will typically go back. They might swim away to recover.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Then they're going back.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
When you're catching a spot or a what do you
call that nursing but sitting spawning bass, the spawning bass,
I mean they're they're guarding the eggs.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Here's what happens. Typically, a male come in and make
the bed, yeah, and then the females will and he
guards the bed while they're spawning. Well, the what they
Then the females will start coming in the area and
then they'll if you ever catch a you know, a
bigger sized female, there'll be spots on them where the
male comes and bumps them to the bed. That's what
they do. And then then the female, when she's ready,
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she'll come lay the eggs. That's when the male will
sit there and guard that.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
Which is in order to catch the female, you got
to catch the male put him in a live well.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Not necessarily, you don't know. No, when you see them,
they will be kind of rolling. That's when they're actually.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
When the female when the correct me if I'm wrong, Paul,
but when it's always been my understanding. When the female
bass are on the bed, you see you and then
we're talking about most of the time of four pound
bass are bigger. Sometimes the males the bigger. One male
BASSI look kind of like you, Fred. They little fellas.
But female bass won't feed on the bed, but they
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will if you throw a bait.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
In there on it, they'll try to move it off.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
The only way they have to. They have to. The
only ability they have to move it is to pick
it up with their mouth and they'll go over there.
And I've seen that when you throw a salamander or
something on bed that that old bass will suck that
thing up, pick it up, go over to the edge
of the bed, and spit it out. So you don't
have a big time a big long amount of time.
Normally they don't sit there and hold it in their mouth.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I tell you something I've noticed for or about ten years,
I spent time trying to catch females when they're hanging
around the bed. And I don't know if this is
scientifically true, but my research for myself is after her
came Michael. Before her came Michael. The females that come
in and hang around the bed, that's stay. After that
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storm they come in drop their eggs are gone. I really, yeah,
it's spent. I don't know if that's scientistic. I just not.
That's all the water a lot, you know. And I
really spent a lot of time watching fish on the bed.
I was doing that yesterday, and and it's you'll have
females in the area, they'll come and they'll be together,
but as soon as they drop, their eggs are leading. Now.
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Some legs, like talquin, they stay well fallow.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
I've seen my granddad and I fishing back in the
day up on Lick Seminole, and you'd see a big,
big female bass on the bed and you throw something
in there, a worm or something in there, and they
literally suck water in and blow blow the water out
and move that worm off the bed. It's like it's aggravating.
He would sit there and have four different lures tied
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on and sit there and mess with that thing until
he made her mad enough to hit it. I think
is what it was more about. It was more about
defending the nest. Or whatever than it was actually her
feeding on.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
That's why I was trying to tell some customer of
to day. My last trip, we caught like thirty bass,
had a really good day. But I kept having to
tell them you can just slow down because if this
is the bed and the fish is guarding this bed,
and you bring the bait by fast, they'll watch it
go by, they won't even mess with it. But if
you bring it by very slow, they'll come over. And
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a lot of times they'll come over and if the
this is your bait, they'll press down on it. A
lot of times it's time you're a hook them in
their stomach because they're just kind of kill it. They're
just pressing on it.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Yeah, they're they're doing more defense. It's more of a
defensive thing than it is a feeding thing.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
That's what I was like up Eddy follow we made
that long run and we went down there. I saw
some females the day before hanging around where they were bedding,
and so from just doing it, I knew kind of
there's the bed, there's a three and a half pound
mal on it. I'm gonna full over there to catch
a female lucky cast the right where she's out and
called a six pounder, you know what I mean from
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knowing she was in the area. Right.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Well, I've seen my grant daddy sit there and you know,
throw throw worms on the bottom or salamander lizards back
when you know you first started making lizard plastic worms
or plastic bait.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
And remember the kangaroo worm pouch.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Yeah, absolutely that was a tom man but uh no,
but I remember him. And he'd say, hat that gumming,
you know, and she ain't hit nothing. And he'd take
either a broke back Rebel or a Bagley's Bangalore with
the little spinner, little spinner on the back just to
stick bait of top water bait, and he'd sit there
and throw it on top of that throw it on
top of that that bed, and just barely twitch it
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he did. Wasn't retrieving it. He'd just throw that top
water bait out there and make it make a little
noise on the water, like hovering right over top of
that bass. And eventually, and it may take three or
four times, and just worrying that thing to death sitting there,
and eventually they get mad enough it come up there
and get it. See right now, you have to get
a mouthful of trouble hooks.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Golden Lake shiners.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
You know that they eat eggs.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
They eat eggs and and yeah, it is a very
good bait. And I tell you what the the fish
they there's a lot of new strets in it, you
know what I mean, they're them Females will eat shiners
right now.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Oh yeah, pretty much when they won't eat nothing else tomorrow. Yeah.
Do you ever do a live bait for bass with
your customers?
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (47:19):
I have, not as much now. When I first went
up to Jack Wingotson when I was eighteen, he said, boy,
and we don't shiner fish up here.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
I was like, that's cheating.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Really, all these people up all that you know they're
back then there are twenty guys.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
And you've grown up on Lake Jackson. That's what you did,
that's right?
Speaker 2 (47:34):
And I asked him, you know, ten years later, I'm like, rich, Jack,
why do you tell me that they don't use they
don't bass, don't bite shiners. When it's like he said's nothing.
I don't want to mess with them and sell them
because it's too easy.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Yeah, it's too easy. Yeah. I remember man back in
the day when when Lake Jackson was a world famous
big bass destination.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
Uh, there's big old golden shiners up there. You could,
you could, you could sell the heck out of golden
shines that I would have dollar apiece for.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Fish. Yes, yeah, okay, you got them in your pond,
I promise you, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
Yeah. But you could go up there on roach fish,
yep roaches, same thing. But you go out there and
put cat food or something in the water and gather
them things up and throw a cast net on them
and sell them for a dollar apiece to piece.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Right, I would throw. I would come up and shake
my pole and just tap it on the water, and
then here they come. I catch me a dozen or so,
throw a little handful of feed. Go fish, go go
sell them. Yeah we got them, I got them up
on I know that. Yeah, that's good bait.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
But throwing the shiners, like you know, some people enjoy
watching a cork. My first customer called a fourteen now pound.
The first person ever got and called a fourteen down
pound on a shiner. And since I've been up to
like some of all those personal bests have been on
the lures and that person called that fish.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
It's different.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
You throw the shiner you sit and watch, which is okay.
Some people like to do I get it.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
There ain't nothing.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
I like to teach them how to catch a you
know what I mean, how to work de bait to
catch they call.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
That kitchen kitchen fish on an artificial is a very
different skill set, different skill set.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Yes, we definitely.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
I love to take shiners with kids, Yes, catch fish,
and I just I didn't know if you let me.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Share this with y'all. I started this year. Started usually
when the crappie move on the beds, I'm done with
that and I start bash fishing that spring. But this
year we started using menace. And let me tell you,
I've had some trips birch, yes, crappie and I'm sitting
I'm using livescoat jad and I'm watching the cork and
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my weight and the and the minna. I'm seeing the
mint swimming around live skirt. And I watched the crappie
come up and I go, get ready, sorry, fixing the
bite it. He sits there and he just turns his
set up and I say five four, I said, your
cort's going under. That's that minos little things, little live minutes. Yeah, yeah,
the little ones that them up there, that's right, yep.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Yeah, Basil hit them too. Oh yeah, Basil eat anything.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
They yellow perch this year? Really, yes, got some yellow perch.
Had a lady want to come up and go just
far from Michigan. I go, ma'am, I don't fish. We
catch them on by accident. I don't really know how
to go target yellow perch. I didn't, you know what
I mean. But the bast of them too.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Yeah, they're uh, the yellow percher I've caught. I basically
caught two.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
In my life. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
Lake Siminold was the first one. Didn't have a clue
what it was until I called the I called somebody,
what in the world is this thing?
Speaker 2 (50:31):
And it's very good eating. It's in the Walleye she
told me. It's in the Walleye family.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeah, and it's it's a yank. It's a Yankee perch,
that's right, yellow with a grint with green horizontal stripes
on them.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
And it's kind of a reddish reddish color in their fins.
But there they are, good deed. My daughter called a
big one up on the lake you fall a few
years ago and we fried it up and it was good.
Ain't nothing wrong with that, that's right.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
But uh well, have to go fishing this weekend.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
Now, I'm going, just as soon as y'all be quiet.
And this the timer runs out.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
Charlie hadn't said a word.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
He's over here. He's over here taking video, watching video
of him petting his uh ugly.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
That's put them hogs on.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
Them, all right. We'll see y'all next time.
And welcome to the tell An Outdoor Show. I'm Charlie
and I'm j D.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I pred Captain Paul tyre back and I'm Grant.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Yeah, okay, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Thank you sir, miss y'all dale, hail the game goal.
We had a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I know, man, what's that time of year? He busy
working while we didn't hear goof we had we're.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Doing that been too. I don't know what's going on.
It's been crazy.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Three weeks of full moon.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yeah, I mean it's been busy. I haven't been able
played with like two rounds of golf and you'd like
to hit all on one like every time, every third
time you go this The chances of that happening again
are astronomical.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I mean, Paul does go fishing every day. I mean,
you know that's that's what kind of life is that? Man?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Terrible, I'll tell you what. Especially just everybody out there,
the shell cracker getting ready.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
It's so close.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Gosh, it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 5 (01:01):
It seems that way because there's some individuals across the
pond from me that tend to fish with cane poles
and sit on buckets. It's that time of year, I've
been seeing them come out.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I got I gotta. I got a date. Soon as
this show's over. I'm hited out the door. You got
a date, fishing date. My daughter, My daughter and her boyfriend.
I told him I take them to sea. I think
we're gonna go to uh Lake. Monkey business there.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
That's a good place to go.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
As long as you wisdom. You don't want the monkey business.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
What right, we're not. We're not going around no monkey business.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
My daughter put my wife hit me up the other night,
says Jesse wants to go to Dothan Saturday with her
little friend. And she refuses to call him my boyfriend.
But she and I'm like, I was just Doathan. There's
nothing to do with Marianna. So we I said, when
I was a kid, we went to Dothan. She looked
at me and I went, yeah, I don't know it's
a good idea either. They going to Bible, and I said,
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you know, he's seventeen, she's seventeen. He's eighteen or seventeen,
I don't know what it is. But she goes to
Chipola and the duel enrollment thing is a junior at
the high school, which I'm proud of her for but
she meets these little college boys, well, the Chipola college boys. JD.
Do you remember those days?
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I swear to.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
See I know what, but but you know it's it's
it's that phase in life when you move on.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
And I know what I was like. I wouldn't let
anybody's daughter day men.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
She's she's she's one of those, she's super smart. I
would love her to death. Beautiful girls got what going on,
which means I'll kill him. Son. If you ever hear this,
just know, but you may not hear. Well, it'll be
hard to hear from six feet down.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Allie's little Well, it started out there's he was the
friend boy, and now it's the boyfriend. You know when
it has to be She goes, he's gonna have to
ask me. It's gonna have to be official, and I'm like.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Okay, Well, how do they do that?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Well, they took her out to dinner on Valentine's Day
and gave her some candy and stuffed animals and flowers,
and as asked her to be his boyfriend. I guess
I don't know how that works. Like a promise, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Now I'll give him some good spots.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, now, now we'll share the good spots when he's
a good kid. He's on the child's bass fishing team.
He turkey hunts. I think he's killed two turkeys this
year already, maybe three. So he hunts and fishes. I
like him a lot. But they told him i'd take
him fishing this evening.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
So you're just need to make sure the boundary is set,
you know, anything inappropriately.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I've shown him all the dead animals on the wall,
and you know, the gun guys. I've shared some some
of my cool guns with him. You know. Yeah, I'll
probably get you at six hundred yards seven hundred yards
of this you you know, you that big thing on
the end, that's the pressure.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Only he got any pictures of like dead people are crying.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
And I do get you an old ready looking uh
uh animal hide lamp shade and go. You know that's
what people skin looks like out there, when't you?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
He's a good geezer, really is a good kid. They
actually met at Young Life, which is the Christian based
group gathering they do on Mondays.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
And uh, I thought that's one of those weird websites,
you know.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
No, it's not, Charlie is that it's not one of those.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
My middle child he met his wife at church and
that's yeah, that's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, but we're anyway.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
You know what I said about preachers and cops, kids
and stuff, the worst, they're the worst.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Well, my wife is there, you go and she and
she ended up with you, Fred.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, we met in a bar.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
If my wife told me if we had met at
the river front where we both hung out, that she
would not have gone out with me. She said, I
wouldn't have dated you if I had met you there.
But we go there, that's different. I said, I'm glad
I met you in the hallway Shriff's office then, because
you know, that's even anyway.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah, the Baptists call them peaks.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
What's the PK.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Preacher kid, preacher kid, that's what the Baptists call them.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Rich people call them pj's and private judge.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
No, no, it's just you have to watch out for
the p k's.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Got you rich, You got kids, so you know, hey, rich,
they took all my money.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Your wife us, she got money.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, she got to keep hers. They took mat.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Oh, well that's such as such as life. There's a
couple of events coming up. I can't remember what it was.
There was something, Oh uh, what was it?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
We're looking at me for I don't know what's floating
around that little.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Well I did. I do want to make it now.
So there was a couple of things coming up. I
was talking to sheriff overing Jackson the other day and
they've got a they got a couple of farm safety
classes coming up. The Sheriff's office does over there. I'm
up at Chappole's range, which is you know, it's an
introductory foot in the door, talk to you a little
bit about gun safety and let you shoot. A couple
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used to do that first shot, Yeah, first shots kind
of deal. And it's just basically designed. It's it's funded
bath DLLE and it's a grant and they get to
to you know, get the deputies out with some civilians
and show them a few things. And but there again
it's it's it's to open the door to people that
are interested in it and make sure they understand how
not to shoot a hole in the wall and yourself
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in the foot and it's good stuff. Leon County just
announced the other day they did one class for anyway,
So They've got three more classes coming up out at
Pat Thomas. Uh Len count is using the same grant
and they're doing the same thing. It's sort of us
first steps foot in the door. You know, if you
if you're if you're not real comfortable coming out here
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to a full blowng eight hour day and getting that
level of training on your first try, which you really
should be comfortable doing because we use the same instructors
that they do. Plus some of our people, the the
Sheriff's off Lyncounty Sheriff's Office. Go to their website or
their Facebook path. I think these classes are full now,
but on April the twelfth, the twenty six and on
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May the tenth, But.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
It doesn't does that get you a certificate?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
No, you don't get a Concealed Weapons Class certificate or
any hour or anything like that. But you know, you
get to go out to Pat Thomas the only time
you'll ever go to Pat Thomas. You get to go
out there to Pat Thomas and shoot some of the
Sheriff's officer's ammunition and their guns. And then and then
when you're done, you can come here and we you
know where you can access and get additional training. But
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you know, I think it's cool that sheriff's offices and
public safety officers are getting out there trying to promote
gun safety in the community. Lord knows, we've been doing
it for how many years? A long time and have
trained tens of thousands of people over I think.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
We incorporated in eighty.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Two thousand and eight. We so I know we've been
doing this for years.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
I don't know how long. I can't do that matter.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
We've trained probably over eighty thousand people, very extensive, and
our class is like eight hours long, you know, nine
hours long, and you shoot all kinds of different guns,
and we spend an hour on just the law and
gun safety is additional. We do scenario based training. We
just spent like another twenty grand on another scenario machine
to do scenario based training, you know. So you know,
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our we're not free.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
How big is the classroom? How many people are in?
Speaker 1 (08:23):
We don't have more than about sixteen eighteen people at
a time.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I think we can accommodate twenty.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
We can, but typically try to cast around around eighteen.
And we've divide the class up halfway through the day
at lunch, and we send some people to the range
and some people to do scenarios so that you're you're
fully utilizing the entire day.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I think you get lunch for it too.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
We feed you lunch, we give you some swag, give
you a T shirts, you get eyes and Ears, and
we give you Talent Range branded eyes and Ears. There's
a lot of there's a lot of overhead goes into it,
plus instructor expensively. J D and I don't make a
ton of money on it, but it is part of
what we do here, so we don't want to lose
that to the government. But at the same time, you know,
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at least these Shriff's offices and all are not going
full board and doing the level of training that we do.
So you know there's people that that quite frankly, you know,
can't afford you know, our classes, and we hate that.
But the fact is it costs a lot of money
to put them on and every year we have to
reevaluate that cost. You got the taskpayers paying for it.
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That's a different story, you know, but it's you know,
like I said, uh, those are the dates. Go to
their Facebook page and you know, consider consider showing up
out there, or you can just go to our Facebook
page or our website and just sign right on up
for an all day class and and go home with
some swag and certificates and can get you ton sel
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carry permit and shoot a bunch of different guns. And
at the end of the day you can walk right
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we're back. So yeah, we got at. I do want
to remind everybody that coming up to Friday before Easter,
isn't there something that they call that something?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Don't they master?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
It's good, it's a good day.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I know that good Friday.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Yeah, there you go, that's which day.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
No, that's good for okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
On the April eighteenth, coming up a couple of weeks
the Marianna FFA. It's a fundraiser for the FFA, is
a sporting clays tournament. There is a morning session and
an afternoon session. It's big enough we have to split
it into two. And it is in Marianna at my farm,
and all that information is love. My wife hates the
fact that they have to give out our address. Do
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keep in mind that I have video cameras everywhere, and
I know exactly how far everything is from my shooting
station on the front end of the rear to house, and
so don't ever come messing with me. Motion activated mailbox
three hundred and ninety nine yards to the front mailbox.
I'm just saying I treat it like four because it
can be that far off. Yeah, that's not even I
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don't even have to hold over on that. All that turkey,
and you won't hear it. You won't hear it. You'll
hear the turkey. And I've got a guard turkey. And
and the dogs and now goats, pigs, got two pigs now.
And the chickens between all the chickens and everything else,
you get them ugly hogs. Yeah, the coney kennies there, man,
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I got that old girl, that old girl, uh, Joelne, Jolene.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Easy, now, Jolne easy.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
She you can't tell when she's standing up and laying
down because her legs are so short. And she gets
up and all you hear is you all you here?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
You can't roll one out there like that because me
and Fred are both sitting here with the bat caught back.
Just read to knocked that one. I had to party,
Oh it just worried.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
She when she finally gives up. All your hear is.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
That sounds like me in the morning.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Now hang on, and and I and I purposely to
get her some to get her some exercise. When I
go out there and feed her and I go slanging
some crack corn and some and some and some. Wow,
all I got some goat feed right now. But out
there and I'll pick up I'll pick the far end
of I'll pick the far end of the of the
hog pen to put it in. And she'd get up
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and she'll go. And this little little boarhg. He runs
the one end of the other, runs around in circles
and stuff. He just doesn't know there's net cutting time
coming up, and he's gonna get he's getting the down
the road.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
But uh, he's he's gonna be a bar hog for loan.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Well, I got my my fence is supposed to be
done here by the time this show airs, and I'll
have my gates up and and they go into pasture
and then I'm going cow shopping. So I'm and thanks
again to bow Wells and Hooking w for getting our
barber O fence put up in a timely fashion. And
I highly recommend bo uh if you're trying to get
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some major fencing done. He runs a couple of crews
and man, it's some good looking stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Up the picture you and your wife standing out front
of the house.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
You hold the pit yeah on him on the pitch
board American Gothic, some shovels and and a rake press freend.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I do art work.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
I don't even have a hoe.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
I got I got two hos I need to get.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
I want one of those with the spinning things.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
One of the beach. I have a hoe for pulling
hecens what.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Oh the weeds?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, okay, it'll probably be a good for potato rake,
with potato rake and perfect get So you're just you'd
call it a weed.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I just fence it in and took two pigs on
it and let them eat whatever weeds. I won't pull
it up. I'm scared they're gonna get out and getting
our blueberries because they're looking pretty good. I have gone
full blown homesteader. Now, if you hadn't picked up on that.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
How many acres is yours? A farm?
Speaker 1 (14:42):
A lot?
Speaker 2 (14:43):
There's a lot of acres.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
It's it's it's more than I put this way. I
fenced in a corner of it and that was forty
five so.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Cleaning room for the for the and all the animals.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, well's quail hunting on one end. I've got the
quail pins up across the road on daddy side of
the road, and then you we've got started doing some burning.
I went out and was going to burn a little
pile last night. Just there was like just a few
little bushes I had piled up down where they had
been clearing the fence, and it was them it's below
the size that you can burn. It's like eight foot pile.
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And took the flame thrower and drove off. And I
came back after I went up and fed the birds,
and I get back to the house and I look
and there's this glow on the horizon and I'm like,
that's not eight foot pile. Well, apparently next to the
eight foot pile was about forty yards of underbrush that
it was surrounded by water and all places I had
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already burnt and had did I had already. It just
didn't burn the other day when I had burned, and uh,
my wife comes home and she's like, what is going
on back there? And I went just like you see
all that smoke is they won't see the smoke at
night burning.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I think, Uh, I have all plantations. There was a
bunch of control burn. Charlie's man, I breathe, that's all
I get to breathe with all the plantations up where
I been on this way. The wind's going out. Look
out in the yard.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I can't see California downtown though yesterday.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Oh yeah, it's been out here.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
This is this far burning off seminole land between spring
just seems like a spring came a little earlier this year,
and it Norman, we already got the squiggles out.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
It started on. I looked the count it's the same day.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
No, no, no, I mean, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I seldom know what you're talking.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
The blooms are coming in earlier than they do.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Oh man, I tell you.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Riding through my neighborhood through clarn Lakes, the uh. I
don't know what. I don't know what's different about the
weather of this year. But the Cherokee rose, you know
the Cherokee rose is it's a vine has a little white, yeah,
or big white flowers on it. All the oak trees
all over the neighborhood. If you got these Cherokee roads blooming,
all blooming at one time, they are just absolutely gorgeous
right now. And everybody's as as are blooming occasion, the
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occasional dogwood.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
I mean wondering if I waited too lake plant. I mean,
I've got pretty much everything in the around.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Keep putting the order to it. It'll be all right.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
That's what it did.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
I got the peppers in peppers in last weekend and
I grew up an entire row of ghost peppers.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Just for you, Charlie. We should have a pepper eating contest. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Have you seen have you seen the guys on on
what the thing on the Instagram, know the TikTok channel
that it might be that that sit around and eat
nasty food and the guy that that the wretches all
the time.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
They're from here in the Panhandle somewhere.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Those guys, most of us. Those guys are funny, eating
everything from Rocky Mountain oysters to pigs freet to hot stuff,
trying hot stuff, and people is right in and challenge
them to do this stuff. And I can tell you
on every video, somebody's puking. When you get the guy
on the left the puke, then it's bad. But the
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guy on the right, he's gone puke.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
He's like bread. Yeah, you talk about it.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I think they ought to try some some coop poop
and crackers.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Have they done that? Have they done that fermented fish stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yes, well it was fermented shark. I think it was
fermented shark. And it was it was, I mean, it's
I think it's stunk before they opened the thing. It
was just what.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I can't remember because of that, because of that reaction.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
I already had about with it.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
This morning brushing my teeth, I got one of those
tooth brushes that does this, and it stuck it back
too far.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
And what's wrong with you?
Speaker 5 (18:44):
You asked me that fifteen times a day?
Speaker 1 (18:50):
What in what way do you mean?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Now?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
So, I don't know if y'all know this. We had
a Supring Court decision came out this week.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
Uh on the ghost guns.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, have you read the pin Guns?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I did not. I haven't read it yet.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
So the opinion is, uh, it's pretty what's different about
this opinion has got a bunch of pictures in it.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
That's odd, Yeah, color pictures.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
So on both the descent and because Thomas did a
descent later did a descent, Thomas, I'm I'm in line
with him on this.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
I mean, I'm surprised that the you know, Roberts didn't
surprise me, but I'm surprised at gorst. He wrote, the majority.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
So what was the gist of it.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
The gist of it is whether or not the ATF
could expand the definition of a firearm to include a
ghost gun kit. The particular kit in this case was
labeled as a by build shoot kit. It's a disassembled
ghost gun.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Basically that the lower with the rest of the gun
or yea.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
And they got to you know, if you look at
the picture of the ghost gun at first glanced, you'd say, well, yeah,
I mean that the looks fire arm to me, and
it does. It doesn't look much different in the glock.
But then if you go look at Justice Thomas and
he starts saying, okay, let's look at the kit, and
then he's got like, here's a picture in here. I
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was just looking at it earlier. And the question is,
can you expand the definition of a firearm that Congress
narrowed in nineteen sixty eight from the nineteen thirty eight
rule that would have included a ghost gun if you
looked at the nineteen thirty eight I was a gun, the.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
GF Act or a National firearm play Okay, the.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
National Firearms Act of thirty eight, then the Gun Control
Act of sixty eight narrowed the thirty eight decision. So
the thirty eight decision had it wasn't a decision, It
was a statute passed by Congress.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
It was an act.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
It was at which is where laws are supposed to
be made every time. Yeah, and apparently we got a
few members of the Supreme Court that have diverted from
what they told us when they got confirmed that they work.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Well, what about the Chevron different what about the chevron
difference decision? How did it not infringe on that laid
it very very recent decision on their part, that says
regulatory agencies camp.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
So this this is a picture that I'm looking at.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
That's the jig and the that's the lower itself and
the jig that's put it in there to.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Not a fiarm firearm And you can see the only
difference is that this has a couple of screws and
parts that go to it.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Those are drill bits actually, and that is a the
So you got the not complete receiver and then they
were selling a jig. So is it a tool that
clamps onto it that shows you where to drill the
holes and what parts of the receiver to mill out
to make it a functional receiver in that it will
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it will hold the parts that you need to make
that other piecework.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
So can the ATF define that as a.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
Fire they can define that in the photos And this
is page you can google the opinion.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
It's called so we lost, We lost?
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Okay, that's what.
Speaker 5 (22:09):
I was in We lost seventy two And I just
I've got a problem.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Well, that's that's not a bunch of metal and a
forge and an old guy making a musket right there.
That's uh, that looks like a gun part and all
you have to do is drill out three holes and
it becomes a firearm. It's actually I don't agree. I
don't agree.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
It's actually more than that, Charlie. You got to drill
out the holes and then you have to go into
the interior of the receiver and mill out the space.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
But yeah, I just I don't do you give them
an inch and they take them out.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
But it's still still legal to make your own gun though,
if you have the ability to do that. Sure is
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slash gun kits and so which there basically just can
you summarize what this means?
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah, So they get into the The.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Case dealt with the statutory definition of the word weapon,
which includes frames and receivers and what they wanted. What
this decision addressed is whether you have an unfinished frame
that that is, you know, you've got a frame for
your barrel and an unfinished receiver that you actually have
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to like drill and make.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Is that a weapon? And the court ruled that it was.
And I don't like the decision. I think it expands
the definition of a frame and a receiver when you
talk talking about unfinished parts, and when you do that,
that is not a court's job to do that. That
is the legislature's job, Congress's job.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Well, and that's exactly what the whole Chevron difference case
was about with dealing with the EPA and saying basically
the Chevron Difference case, correct me if I'm wrong, for
it said that bureaucratic agencies do not have the authority
to make law and then enforce that law within their
within their department, if you will, or within their bureaucers.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Well, it's said, under under circumstances that would change the
definition of the law, they can't do that. So, in
other words, if they're if Congress gives an administrative agency
rule making authority, which it does, I don't think they should,
but it does they can't go in and write the
rule to change the definition of the statute.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
That's whatever. On deference said, that's exactly what this court is.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
What you're saying is the ATF has interpreted that item
just being something that's based on their interpretation of what
they see.
Speaker 5 (25:38):
And they and and they're doing so, as Justice Thomas writes,
and I agree with him. In doing so, they've changed
the definition of a weapon.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
They've expanded it.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
So it's it so in my mind that I'm taking
the I'm taking the devil's advocate view on this thing.
So they've given the ATF the discretion to decide what
something is that they're looking at based on their.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Which marked my word, Yeah, which marked my word. Here
here's here's what's next. The top half so an AR fifteen,
which is what they're going after. There's, hands down, there's
no question what they're going going after. Even though ars
are used in a really small percentage of crime, where
handguns are using a very large percentage of crime. They're
going after the AR fifteen. The AR fifteen has a
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two piece receiver. It has the lower receiver and the
upper receiver that are clamshell that fit together and get
held on with two different pins. Mark my word. Upper
receivers will be deemed to be a firearm because they
don't like the fact that Grant can order a upper
receiver for his existing serialized transferred after a background check,
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paperwork trail lower receiver. He can go by a different
upper receiver and clamp it on there. So they're going
they hate you. They have changed the exactly that's exactly
what I did on your You.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Just we just switched out the barrel. That's it. Yeah,
it's the same gun.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
So you can change the caliber, you can change the link,
you can change a lot of things you can do.
They're a very modular system. It's no different you buy
a Harley Davidson, the first thing you do is start
bolting crap on it, because that's what you do. You
buy a four wheel drive pickup truck when you're reading
it and you start putting draft on it. Or you
buy a Prius and you're Charlie Strickland you put a
lift kit on it. You know.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
But yeah, so there, I guarantee you the next the
next thing they will do. You will see this is
the ATF will try to try to say, I.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
Don't think they're gonna do it under Trump, but if
he ever gets out of there, they are.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
Yeah, exactly, And I don't I don't want to say
the next thing that that next thing might not come
around for ten years or eight years or whatever.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Many year sixteen.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Well, probably part of this, but it's coming. Part of
this is down.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Part of this is also industry driven, because when it
was just a chunk of illuminum that looked vaguely like
an AR fifteen, and you had to really do machine.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
When it was forged into the original forging.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
And that that was like okay, well, yeah, you can
turn that in, but it's still just a chunk of
met and okay, okay, we're going to refine it a
little more. We're gonna refine it a little more. We're
gonna refine it.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
We're gonna find it eighty person and now now now.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
We're onan US. Refine it, put it in a jig,
give you the drill bits and instructions on how to
turn it into a gun. If the industry doesn't push,
then they don't get the push back sometimes, but how
do you test.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
The lava also allows for you to make your own gun. Yeah,
you atf rules allow for you, Charlie Strickland. If you
want to go build your back, you can build it.
You just can't buy a kit that's going to help you.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And so you So there's a certain amount of balance,
and I don't know that a statute is ever going
to really clear that up either. Anyway, we'll be backing the.
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Speaker 1 (29:41):
And we're back. This is one of those days where
we have all the political discussions off the break more
than we do on the on the air. It's hard
to tell sometimes when we're actually recording when we're not there,
So don't worry.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I'm keeping track of it all. Are you just sticking
in my crawl this week? Is these dog all Tesla vandals?
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Well, they were the ones that were applauding Tesla not
long ago when telling us we all had to drive
electric cars and we were mandated to do it. And
then all of a sudden, now they're wanting to set
them all on fire.
Speaker 5 (30:10):
Yeah, and Kim and you got these guys in pajamas.
First off, if you're wearing pajamas and you're a dude,
and you're over twenty.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
And sixteen, let's let's go sixteen.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
All right, fine, I'll go there. If you're a dude
and you're wearing pajamas in public, you ought to be
imprisoned as a domestic terrorist to begin with, because you
already terrorize me wearing you're Leelu and Stitch pajamas walking
around in public.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Well, I mean there should be. There should be at Walmart,
you're going to expect that kind of Well, there's an
exception beyond Walmart. Yeah, no, if you're traveling to or
from a local Walmart.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
From the range, there.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Is an exceptions. That's the Walmart exception. It's written in
the dude's code.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Sir, sir, I'm sir. I'm depustracting woman some Shires. For
the reason I stopped you, Tony is because you're behaving erradically,
driving all over the road and you're wearing you're wearing wearing,
wearing the ones that you can Is there any reason,
any reason for this behavior? I'm going to Walmart. You
have a good have a good one, you have a
good evening. Yeah, ten resolved?
Speaker 5 (31:19):
You know back when the Elphis sa iguana was. He
wasn't as mean as he was. I used to carry
him in Walmart just to get rid.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Of course you did. I got a chicken on Charlie,
Charlie working on the shoulder, Chicken that you're gonna get
you one of them leatheret. Make you a leather gauntlet,
you know, like they wear, like like the falconry gauntlets.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
You know.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Get you a leather gauntlet and park that chicken up
there on it and go into the walmarts. It is
my tax chicken, y'all.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
But back up, I'm gonna I'm gonna teach that chicken
the poop on demand.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Look out, leave that damn chicken.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
You ever seen you ever seen a chicken button? Know
why I look at this?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
You can't get it.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
I have had. I have two incubators with six turkey
eggs in each, one right now seven and one just
just what we had. My wife went out the other
day and looked at Lacey the turkey and said, hey,
baby girl, and she squatted down and popped the egg
out and walked off. There you go, there you go,
that's what I think you.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
You sent me a video Saturday. We were up at
h up there at the soccer game last Saturday, uh
playing the a Back College. And she sent me a
video of her petting your your turkey that don't like
your your your gobbler. He ain't no Jake anymore. He
might be named Jake, but he is far from a
Jake anymore.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Jacob, Yeah, Jacob's son was.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Yes, he was anyway, just loving on that thing. And
he's just sitting there letting her petty and everything.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
He wasn't let me put water. I was heading out
here today and I looked over there, and she told
me last night I hater her out of water. I
went over there and I put some water in the
bucket and I'm trying to set it over the fence,
and I got a turkey in my face flapping his
wings trying to hit me. I'm like, you know, if
it wasn't for those chickens that I actually care about
that are thirsty, I would let.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
You just so. You need to have you a dog.
You need to get you a doug well. You need
to dig you a well out there and be like
old Clovis led Beetter and Uncle Versey told him to go.
What are the chickens, and he gathered was run there
gathering the chickens up and throw them down in the
well and said, y'all drink there's plenty of it, he said,
they he said, they drawed feathers up out of that
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well for six months.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Have you considered trying music therapy on that turkey?
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Go there and playing the song, playing some music. You're
gonna keep on and get some lead therapy. Six l
I could fix.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Oh, we got the guys that uh, the guys that
are building the fence right now are not from around here.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
You told us about last week up there.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
They show up and there they pulled in there in
the morning, and if Pabo Loco is out, it's Pavo loco.
If Pabo Loco is out, they sit in the truck
till my wife goes out there and puts the turkey up,
and then they get out of the truck. They got
and and to think that I had my dogs and
the turkey both had them hemmed up. The dogs and
the turkey sort of had a stand off in the
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yard and they were in the middle. And I don't
Donna said, I don't know which I don't know which
ones they were scared of but one or the other
had them staying in the truck. I'm like, what that
cutting in our fence building time you go out there
and running them and so uh the turkey anyway.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Something to bring that turkey taco?
Speaker 3 (34:27):
They eat it, They eat anything. They're pretty uh there there.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
We feed them table. Now now that we got the pigs,
most of the table scraps are going to the pig
pen shred.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Laugh. That's some of the kind of noises I make
every morning, getting up, trying to get up out of
the bed, all getting all the joints working, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
So I've had a lot of pigs in when when
we were younger. That's what drove my brother to go
to law school with growing up on the pig farm
he had. He left, he went to law school sitting
I have to work like that again.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
You don't make noises like that. Fred, there's a really
I got You ain't got nears many metal parks in
you as I got in me.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Maybe that's what it is. Don't make no noise.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
The metal joints get rusty at you know, during the
night when you lay there still it you got to
get up and get things moving around. In the morning.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
No, the only noise you heard my wife yelling at me?
Why are you not up yet?
Speaker 3 (35:19):
I don't doubt that.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
That's about the only noise I get.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
You can I control my schedule. I'll get up when
I want to. You Tell her that, Yeah, I'll do
I will.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
She will be mean, she will beat him.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
Tell you you don't rule me.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
I will do what I want. Woman do that, Tell her.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
That, yeah, I call her a woman all the time.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Yeah. Can you go ahead? Then let me know how
it goes, because I like to try it, but I'm
scared to.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
I say yes, ma'am. That's is That's the easiest man.
That's the best wedding or best marriage advice I can
give any any young fellow that's u has gotten married
recently or is thinking about getting learned to say yes ma'am,
nod your head and going about your business.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Well now that it's getting warm, it makes life.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Easy five minutes later. Forget what you don't even remember.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
You gotta do nothing. You just gotta say forgiveness.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
La.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Sorry, I'm an idiot. I apologize.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
I got distracted, yep, but I meant to do it.
But thank you for handling that honey.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Now that it's getting warm, water start coming out at night,
and you know, I like catch them at night and
wife sleep and I'll take a picture with one on
her head. Yeah, they'll walk at your next morning water snakes,
and that that does wonders for our marriage.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Man, I hate no telling what my wife would do
to me. She don't like we've got those little it's
some kind of it's not a native creature. It's a
little gecko, a little brown sand color little geckos all
over the our front porch and our back porch. And
I like them because they eat the bugs.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
You know.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Then, living as close to the lake as I do,
mosquitoes are in no short supply around my house most
of the time. And buddy, you let one and things
fall off, the fall off the door frame when she's
walking out the back door to let the dog out
or something at night, and she don't she's not not happy.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
With that at all. No amphibians whatever, none of them.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
It's getting to be that season when when the palmeadow
bugs are gonna be flipping around here and there, and
my wife it gets very unreasonable.
Speaker 2 (37:26):
These things will attack you.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Oh, I've seen what your wife do is uh uh huh.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
So it was the cotton Exchange in uh in In
in Savannah. One went crawling across the wall when we
sat down to have dinner up there and she yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Everybody in the restaurant knew there was a roach on
the wall near near.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Us that but we went back this year. She enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Huh.
Speaker 5 (37:50):
Now there was a fly, the palmetto bugs that fly
across the river.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
That what it was.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
It just didn't take off.
Speaker 5 (37:58):
It seemed like every time I'm around when they want
to do it all park.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Under an oak tree and leave your windows down. Are
you in there? I had an infestation when I was
a kid or palm met A bo had man had
to come spray to extra to spray the car, they
roaches running over.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I tell you, I tell you about the story that
had the guy at Walmart on the east side of
town on the Parkway that had the roaches in his
Uh had the roaches in his car and he went
to the Walmart and got the got the roach bomb.
So I get a call one night, I drive as
a watch commander, I drive out. I drive out to
the Walmart because there had been a explosion and I
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get there and there's a Ford Bronco or explorer sitting
out there with no windows in it, and all the
air bags are deployed. And the guy went in and
got him a roach bomb bomb, a bug bomb and
put it in there and set it off while he
was in it. And then he while, well, well he
got out, he set it off. He went and got
back into thing to drive away, and he lit a
(38:59):
cigarette and it went boom and deployed the air bags
and blew out the windows. And uh yeah, they thought, well,
they thought it was like a terrorist attacker. There was
a car bomb and there was a vehicle blew up.
There was an explosion, and so I ease out there.
We're like, well, let's go see what's going on.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
And questions did he live and did the roaches?
Speaker 1 (39:21):
I don't, Well, he couldn't hear anything he was telling him.
So that was one of those I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
I don't know all the bug bombs this night.
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I got out of there before the generated paperwork, and
we'll be right back.
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Speaker 2 (40:40):
I'm so hun Seama, take a fish eating I'm ready
to go fish it you it is BB yeah, yes, sir,
right now to the faster. I would say on a
seminal about halfway through the spawn. I know on talk
when they've been spawning pretty good too, and all the
lakes from around area. You've been seeing any big one
(41:00):
around your pond?
Speaker 5 (41:01):
I hadn't looked them to look this weekend, Yeah, take
a lizer. This about time when they start doing it.
Speaker 2 (41:07):
I think, yes, sir, it sure is. And we got
a new moon Sat when the show comes on Saturday.
But man, I tell you, I think the shell Cracker
they usually start in April, but it seems like I'm
wanting to see them, you know what I mean. I'm
thinking it's late, but it's not there. I'm thinking the next.
Speaker 3 (41:22):
Week far off from April.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
So well, I know we're not. It's coming, and I'm
starting to see them kind of gather, but not really
seeing it on.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
The bed yet.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
But that's that's that's gonna be fun. I think this
year is gonna be really good.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
So I got a question for you. I've heard two
schools of thought on this.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
I'm interested to hear yours. If you take a female
bass off the bed and release it back, does it
do anything to that bass? No? You know what I mean,
catch your release?
Speaker 3 (41:50):
Well, did she go back to the.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
She go back to the bed? And how far are
we taking her? Just right there. Just take a picture
of it and release it. No, don't go right back,
go right back to the bed. Catch it again.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
Yeah, No, she ain't gonna buitye that no more.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Again. Yeah, she might not buite that one. But they
will typically go back. They might swim away to recover.
Speaker 1 (42:10):
Then they're going back.
Speaker 5 (42:11):
When you're catching a spot or a what do you
call that nursing but sitting spawning bass, the spawning bass,
I mean they're they're guarding the eggs.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Here's what happens. Typically, a male come in and make
the bed, yeah, and then the females will and he
guards the bed while they're spawning. Well, the what they
Then the females will start coming in the area and
then they'll if you ever catch a you know, a
bigger sized female, there'll be spots on them where the
male comes and bumps them to the bed. That's what
they do. And then then the female, when she's ready,
(42:41):
she'll come lay the eggs. That's when the male will
sit there and guard that.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
Which is in order to catch the female, you got
to catch the male put him in a live well.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Not necessarily, you don't know. No, when you see them,
they will be kind of rolling. That's when they're actually.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
When the female when the correct me if I'm wrong, Paul,
but when it's always been my understanding. When the female
bass are on the bed, you see you and then
we're talking about most of the time of four pound
bass are bigger. Sometimes the males the bigger. One male
BASSI look kind of like you, Fred. They little fellas.
But female bass won't feed on the bed, but they
(43:18):
will if you throw a bait.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
In there on it, they'll try to move it off.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
The only way they have to. They have to. The
only ability they have to move it is to pick
it up with their mouth and they'll go over there.
And I've seen that when you throw a salamander or
something on bed that that old bass will suck that
thing up, pick it up, go over to the edge
of the bed, and spit it out. So you don't
have a big time a big long amount of time.
Normally they don't sit there and hold it in their mouth.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
I tell you something I've noticed for or about ten years,
I spent time trying to catch females when they're hanging
around the bed. And I don't know if this is
scientifically true, but my research for myself is after her
came Michael. Before her came Michael. The females that come
in and hang around the bed, that's stay. After that
(44:01):
storm they come in drop their eggs are gone. I really, yeah,
it's spent. I don't know if that's scientistic. I just not.
That's all the water a lot, you know. And I
really spent a lot of time watching fish on the bed.
I was doing that yesterday, and and it's you'll have
females in the area, they'll come and they'll be together,
but as soon as they drop, their eggs are leading. Now.
(44:22):
Some legs, like talquin, they stay well fallow.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
I've seen my granddad and I fishing back in the
day up on Lick Seminole, and you'd see a big,
big female bass on the bed and you throw something
in there, a worm or something in there, and they
literally suck water in and blow blow the water out
and move that worm off the bed. It's like it's aggravating.
He would sit there and have four different lures tied
(44:46):
on and sit there and mess with that thing until
he made her mad enough to hit it. I think
is what it was more about. It was more about
defending the nest. Or whatever than it was actually her
feeding on.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
That's why I was trying to tell some customer of
to day. My last trip, we caught like thirty bass,
had a really good day. But I kept having to
tell them you can just slow down because if this
is the bed and the fish is guarding this bed,
and you bring the bait by fast, they'll watch it
go by, they won't even mess with it. But if
you bring it by very slow, they'll come over. And
(45:18):
a lot of times they'll come over and if the
this is your bait, they'll press down on it. A
lot of times it's time you're a hook them in
their stomach because they're just kind of kill it. They're
just pressing on it.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Yeah, they're they're doing more defense. It's more of a
defensive thing than it is a feeding thing.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
That's what I was like up Eddy follow we made
that long run and we went down there. I saw
some females the day before hanging around where they were bedding,
and so from just doing it, I knew kind of
there's the bed, there's a three and a half pound
mal on it. I'm gonna full over there to catch
a female lucky cast the right where she's out and
called a six pounder, you know what I mean from
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knowing she was in the area. Right.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
Well, I've seen my grant daddy sit there and you know,
throw throw worms on the bottom or salamander lizards back
when you know you first started making lizard plastic worms
or plastic bait.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
And remember the kangaroo worm pouch.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Yeah, absolutely that was a tom man but uh no,
but I remember him. And he'd say, hat that gumming,
you know, and she ain't hit nothing. And he'd take
either a broke back Rebel or a Bagley's Bangalore with
the little spinner, little spinner on the back just to
stick bait of top water bait, and he'd sit there
and throw it on top of that throw it on
top of that that bed, and just barely twitch it
(46:34):
he did. Wasn't retrieving it. He'd just throw that top
water bait out there and make it make a little
noise on the water, like hovering right over top of
that bass. And eventually, and it may take three or
four times, and just worrying that thing to death sitting there,
and eventually they get mad enough it come up there
and get it. See right now, you have to get
a mouthful of trouble hooks.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Golden Lake shiners.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
You know that they eat eggs.
Speaker 2 (46:56):
They eat eggs and and yeah, it is a very
good bait. And I tell you what the the fish
they there's a lot of new strets in it, you
know what I mean, they're them Females will eat shiners
right now.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
Oh yeah, pretty much when they won't eat nothing else tomorrow. Yeah.
Do you ever do a live bait for bass with
your customers?
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (47:19):
I have, not as much now. When I first went
up to Jack Wingotson when I was eighteen, he said, boy,
and we don't shiner fish up here.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
I was like, that's cheating.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Really, all these people up all that you know they're
back then there are twenty guys.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
And you've grown up on Lake Jackson. That's what you did,
that's right?
Speaker 2 (47:34):
And I asked him, you know, ten years later, I'm like, rich, Jack,
why do you tell me that they don't use they
don't bass, don't bite shiners. When it's like he said's nothing.
I don't want to mess with them and sell them
because it's too easy.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Yeah, it's too easy. Yeah. I remember man back in
the day when when Lake Jackson was a world famous
big bass destination.
Speaker 1 (47:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
Uh, there's big old golden shiners up there. You could,
you could, you could sell the heck out of golden
shines that I would have dollar apiece for.
Speaker 2 (48:02):
Fish. Yes, yeah, okay, you got them in your pond,
I promise you, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
Yeah. But you could go up there on roach fish,
yep roaches, same thing. But you go out there and
put cat food or something in the water and gather
them things up and throw a cast net on them
and sell them for a dollar apiece to piece.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Right, I would throw. I would come up and shake
my pole and just tap it on the water, and
then here they come. I catch me a dozen or so,
throw a little handful of feed. Go fish, go go
sell them. Yeah we got them, I got them up
on I know that. Yeah, that's good bait.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
But throwing the shiners, like you know, some people enjoy
watching a cork. My first customer called a fourteen now pound.
The first person ever got and called a fourteen down
pound on a shiner. And since I've been up to
like some of all those personal bests have been on
the lures and that person called that fish.
Speaker 3 (48:49):
It's different.
Speaker 2 (48:50):
You throw the shiner you sit and watch, which is okay.
Some people like to do I get it.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
There ain't nothing.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
I like to teach them how to catch a you
know what I mean, how to work de bait to
catch they call.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
That kitchen kitchen fish on an artificial is a very
different skill set, different skill set.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
Yes, we definitely.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
I love to take shiners with kids, Yes, catch fish,
and I just I didn't know if you let me.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Share this with y'all. I started this year. Started usually
when the crappie move on the beds, I'm done with
that and I start bash fishing that spring. But this
year we started using menace. And let me tell you,
I've had some trips birch, yes, crappie and I'm sitting
I'm using livescoat jad and I'm watching the cork and
(49:33):
my weight and the and the minna. I'm seeing the
mint swimming around live skirt. And I watched the crappie
come up and I go, get ready, sorry, fixing the
bite it. He sits there and he just turns his
set up and I say five four, I said, your
cort's going under. That's that minos little things, little live minutes. Yeah, yeah,
the little ones that them up there, that's right, yep.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Yeah, Basil hit them too. Oh yeah, Basil eat anything.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
They yellow perch this year? Really, yes, got some yellow perch.
Had a lady want to come up and go just
far from Michigan. I go, ma'am, I don't fish. We
catch them on by accident. I don't really know how
to go target yellow perch. I didn't, you know what
I mean. But the bast of them too.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Yeah, they're uh, the yellow percher I've caught. I basically
caught two.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
In my life. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (50:25):
Lake Siminold was the first one. Didn't have a clue
what it was until I called the I called somebody,
what in the world is this thing?
Speaker 2 (50:31):
And it's very good eating. It's in the Walleye she
told me. It's in the Walleye family.
Speaker 3 (50:35):
Yeah, and it's it's a yank. It's a Yankee perch,
that's right, yellow with a grint with green horizontal stripes
on them.
Speaker 2 (50:42):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
And it's kind of a reddish reddish color in their fins.
But there they are, good deed. My daughter called a
big one up on the lake you fall a few
years ago and we fried it up and it was good.
Ain't nothing wrong with that, that's right.
Speaker 2 (50:55):
But uh well, have to go fishing this weekend.
Speaker 3 (50:58):
Now, I'm going, just as soon as y'all be quiet.
And this the timer runs out.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
Charlie hadn't said a word.
Speaker 3 (51:06):
He's over here. He's over here taking video, watching video
of him petting his uh ugly.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
That's put them hogs on.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
Them, all right. We'll see y'all next time.
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