February 20, 2025 • 40 mins
Rob Parker & Kelvin Washington discuss Bobby Portis's big PED suspension and what that means going forward.
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Speaker 4 (01:55):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I'm ready?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, all right. We got the NBA news too, man.
We obviously Wemby is the biggest news out for the
rest of the season, with the blood clots wishing him
the best man. I really like just his disposition, how
much he cares, plays defense, all that good stuff. So
hopefully he'll be back and better than ever can bounce
back next year. Other NBA news Rob Bobby Porters, who
(02:16):
is the heart and soul outside of Giannis for those
Bucks teams, energy man off the bench, giving him thirteen
to eight.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Well, he has been.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Suspended Rob for twenty five games and they have twenty
nine games left in the season. He's suspended for violating
terms of the NBA NBPA anti drug program by testing
positive for trumadol. The league announced that today. This is
what he had to say Rob about it. He said,
I was dealing with an elbow injury and using an
(02:46):
NBA approved medication for pain and inflammation during that time,
I made an honest mistake and took a pain reducing
anti inflammatory pill that is not approved. I feel horrible
and recognized that I'm responsible for what I put in
my body.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
From the bottom of my heart.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I want apologize to the Bucks organization, my teammates, coaches, fans, family,
you known' blah blah blah. He said, I'll continue to
work hard get ready for the playoff run. So that's
his coming for him, And then the Bucks said, obviously
it's a set back for them because you know, he
means so much of their team, but they won support
Bobby and he's just making as if it was an
honest mistake.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
No, I mean, you would think and you would understand
this is your livelihood, you know what I mean, Like
you have to make sure everything that goes in your body.
I mean, I mean this is not me or you
and whatnot. There's gotta be you have to make sure
you're not exactly they're testing people. So you can't allow
that to happen because if that was that mean, people
(03:42):
make honest mistakes all the time, more than just a
player every so often. Right, it would be ten players
or twenty players exactly, right, if.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
It was just like, oh, I just took something that
I know.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
So that's always a little question mark there, you know
when you see something like that happen. And I guess
my other thing too, when I think all the time,
is it is there? Because you know you hear that
in baseball too. Ah, I was taking something and they
told me from my throwing arm, right, I'm back been hurting.
Remember many were mirrors with the Dodgers, like a fertility drug.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
He claimed that, you know he was taking a.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Trying he was taking a fertility can't that be the woman?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well he was trying to an up on the soldiers, okay,
trying to get more soldiers if you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
But I just wonder and and and where are you
on this?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I mean, there have been players who have been suspended
for p d s in the n b A.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Who was it Withshard Lewis? Is that who it was?
Who's the guy with the Orlando Magic might have been
with Lewis?
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Can you look that up? Patrick Guy's NBA players? Who
was suspended? I just right off the top of my head,
and I don't want to I want to make sure
we get that right. But where are you on that?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
It was?
Speaker 5 (04:57):
It?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Was he?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Anybody else?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
So?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, I'm like I got that one quick. I knew
there was somebody from the Magic. I'm wrong when I
said with Shawd Lewis.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
He was suspended too.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Rashard Lewis without paid for the first ten games of
the nine season though.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Okay, hang around he do see? So that was in Orlando.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I just wonder where when you whenever you hear something
like this, do you think that there's.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
More to it? Or the league?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I mean, obviously the league would rather not in the NFL? Dude,
do you think people aren't taking stuff? And for whatever reason,
people don't frown upon NFL guys when they get busted,
they miss four games, they come back and everybody goes Coomba, y'all,
let's get going. You can still win awards. No career
is not tainted. Nobody looks at you sideways. It's weird
(05:46):
so great. That's a great question. I think Bobby. I
don't think that he knew per se like I'm taking
this thing. But I absolutely think he knew. Hey, man,
it's more powerful than what you got. I don't know
if it's you know, good or not.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I just know it works, it's powerful. It might be sketchy,
you can take it meaning. I don't know if he
literally knew what he was taking, but I think he knew.
It wasn't on the normal NBA playing, if you know
what I mean. I do believe that, and I do
believe guys push it, in the words of that one
song from Back and the Day, push it to the limits.
I think they push it to the limit, like how
far can I go taking whatever is whatever that will
(06:23):
help me?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And you and I talk about this all the time
of the off the mic recover. They're not just to.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Walk around swoll up and about recovering, about people recovering.
They're playing eighty two games. That's just the games. They're
practicing all the time. You know, they got nagging injuries.
Some of them have chronic injuries, meaning it's never gonna
get better, your knees, never gonna get your back's never
gonna get better. Steve Nash with his back, Tracy McGrady
with his back.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
So people don't understand, like with baseball, it wasn't like, Okay,
we're gonna do this just to hit home runs, because
if you can't hit a home run, I don't care,
you know how, just not buff exactly. It has nothing
to do with being But there's a the eye, hand coordination,
and everybody doesn't have a home run swing.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You know that there are sluggers who.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Have the natural, beautiful swing that can knock the ball
out of the park.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Everybody can't do it, but I always want to. Recovery
is where you were going.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah, the recovery is the same thing in base one
hundred and sixty two, one hundred and sixty two games.
And that's why pictures have been busted as much as
hitters because.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
We talked about the shoulder of the arm. Dude, it's
picture man It is really, really tough. Anybody. You and
I have done this for years, U since nineteen eighty seven,
meter for going on twenty years here in a few
if you spend any time with ex athletes, I don't
name the sport outside of maybe golf, but look at
Tiger Woods, beat down batter man. That stuff takes a
(07:43):
toll on your body. I don't care what it is, man, this.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Isn't recreational playing every other week.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
No, they're handy millions. I gotta perform, right, I gotta
show up. My family needs this money. And we talked
about this yesterday.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Everybody ain't making a guarantee fifty million years. You got
like we got the Dodgers network up here. Jerry Harrison Jr.
Was just, you know, just a guy on team trying
to make it. You think he can be like, oh hey, guys,
I'm probably not gonna show up.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
A few weeks. I don't feel good. I got an
this thing or they gonna cut me on matter. In fact,
Jerry won the World Series with the Yankees, and he
did for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
So my point is, man, these guys got to play
through stuff you never look know about. I'll tell you
when I used to do the show with Marcella's Wiley.
One of the things he said to me, you talking
about us fans, He's like, you guys think about acl
tears and and you know, major injuries. He said, what
about when a guy steps with his metal cleats in
your shin and rips meat out your shin. But you
(08:36):
get in there, You're like, hey, normal person's out leg
wrapped up for two weeks. Patrick, They're like, get back
in there, next play, dude, chunks of my shin is
out on the field.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
You'll be all right.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
And so it's just they go through so much that
if you can tell them, hey, man, here's a little
something to help with the pain, speed up the process,
right and this, And you know they're always ahead of
the testing, right, So they're on something that we don't
know about that eventually we know about because the testing
catches up. So do I think track stars, Shoot, I
(09:09):
read the Baco book absolutely, track swimming, cycling. You know
all these man they're gonna push the limits so that
they can perform so we can love it, we can
enjoy it. And it just doesn't shock me if you
tell me somebody's been using pds considering what it takes
to be good, to be great at that level consistently
all the time.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Now, I think that it's hard to believe, right that
it isn't more rampant. People don't get you know, and
you've talked about it in the doping world or drugs
or whatever. In sports, there's masking agents, there's things that
can can hide what exactly you're doing. I just wonder
(09:48):
if this will ever for whatever reason, it doesn't seem
even though they have the rules in place, we don't
see it in the NBA as much.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, and the NFL we see it, Uh, but it's
not frowned upon.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I think it's not gladiators like subconscious that we all
know how brutal and violent it is.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Baseball is totally different.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Like if you get that, Uh, Fernando Tattoos Junior couldn't
have been a bigger star when he came to am
I Right, he's like secondary now and he's still he's playing.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Great, and he's fortunate is now this was this is
your five.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Oh six, no, right, and and he has twenty years
He's so young when it happened. He has a long
way to go that he could maybe like change people
if he stays clean and has a big you know,
put up the numbers.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
He had a great year last year.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Do you think that hell that Barry Bonds, that we
almost have two halves of his career, meaning like the
first ten years we didn't assume he was on him
and he's the Hall of Fame player, but bat ten
and then the next ten we assume.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
But the writers are different now and are changing. That's
why I think tattoos has a chance.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I agree five or something.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
The older writers are the ones, and Barry Bonds was close.
Remember you need seventy five percent sixty eight, So it.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Wasn't like that was that first half of his career thing.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
You see what I'm saying, right, It wasn't like people
are like, no way, no how, and he was getting
twenty percent or five percent. He fell off and everybody thought, no,
we were because everybody knows when he was the skinny
Barry Bonds was a great player with Pittsburgh Agree he
won three m vps YEP, and then he went to
San Francisco and still was great. But I just wonder,
I do I always wonder how widespread it is and
(11:27):
and do you think the league the league if they can,
would they want to hide it? Do you think they
hide it if there's a higher profile player, do you do?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You know what I mean? Like like I do wonder
and now.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Because because major League Baseball they were they got their
biggest stars. I mean, like like for real, like they
just threw the hammer down on some of the biggest
stars of the game. Don't want Hall of Famers. There's
about four or five Hall of famers who are not
in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Ride because of this.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Many were mirrors rams a rod We said, Barry, you know,
missing a couple off top of my head.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
But yeah, Roger Cleming, I mean there's four right there,
without even and Mark McGuire there's five. There's five without
even thinking about it. Those are first ballot Hall of
Famers with all the numbers, all the credentials.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And not only the Hall of Fame part, they had
the relevance part too, you know what I mean, because
you could be quiet and be a Hall of Famer.
Barry Bonds was baseball from like two thousand to two
thousand and four or something.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
You know, she talked about all the time during the
when we're working for the New York Times. He went
to every The New York Times covered every game, and
Chris would go around every every series during that track.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
It was that b and I mean, dude, growing up,
we weren't necessarily the biggest baseball fans. Guess what we
did when Barry Bonds was up? Yeah, what are we
doing tonight? We're hitting the club? Hold up, hold up, Barry,
let me see why?
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Right?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Okay, they struck anyway, what were doing?
Speaker 6 (12:53):
Like?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
He stopped. I don't care what you were doing.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
If you were at a party, Barry Bond's at the bat,
shut up, hold on, and then you have you know
what happened in the summer of ninety eight with Sammy
Sosa and Mark Mark maguire, which, by the way, what
complexion is Sammy Sosa right now?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I think he's beige? No, what is he? Moncey? He
looked like he's supposed to look like me. He looking
like you?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yes, okay, Mancy, And in fact he had Mancy, you
might be too dark, you dark complexing compared to I.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
Was gonna say it might be a little bit more
tan than him.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I mean, it's full on, Michael Jackson right now, you
want to off the wall. Michael Jackson and he went bad,
Like what do you want?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
He might look a bit like your sweat yeh, yeah,
like that. I mean like it's like racist. What's the fact?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Go look at it. You'll look it up and you'll
be like, what, No, Alex, have you seen Alex coogle
it right now?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Patrick? You know what I'm talking about? Like, no, but
I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Like, Patrick, he looked like your arm right now. Yeah,
he was saying. He was like showing you guys, it
was Rob's complexion. Yes, really in the summer of ninety
eight hitting home runs. Yes he now right now.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
All of you to wait and hear the truth.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
All right?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Eight seven so ninety nine on Fox, can't do it?
Eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six, sixty three, sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Just your thoughts on how widespread Yeah, Bobby Porters, you know,
said that he took something that he won supposed we
got suspended twenty five games.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
That's a lot of games. That's a lot of games,
well over a quarter of the season.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
So just wonder do you think PD juice, whatever you
want to use is more widespread in sports than we
really know?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Are you cool with it?
Speaker 4 (14:34):
If they are using you know what I mean, does
that bother you if you find out?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Because it doesn't bother football players?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
And you're right, the gladiated, the kind of thing might
be the reason why we want to hear a good conference.
It's just a conversation about this. And Bobby Porters is
the one who sparked it with his suspension. Where are you?
Does this bother you? Can you live with it? In sports?
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binding should be We're talking about Bobby Porter suspended twenty
five games for using a banned substance? Is this rampant?
Is this widespread in sports? Do you even care? Maybe
you don't care?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
What do you think? Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox?
Who we got.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Andre in Massachusetts? You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio? Where are you Dre on the Jews?
Speaker 10 (16:24):
Hey, how you doing?
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Listen for me?
Speaker 10 (16:25):
You know, do the crime, you have to do the time.
And I do feel that these things are more prevalent
than people realize that. The bottom line for me in
terms of guys like Bobby portis your fringe players, your
role players.
Speaker 11 (16:37):
You're not going to get the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 10 (16:38):
Okay when it comes to the superstars and the people
that are the face of the league and who you
need to have out there, you know, and some people
have been linked tenuously to performance, performance and has canting drugs.
Not going to say any names, but they'll get the
you know, well maybe you know, and you can kind
of pull out the string and there's not going to
be a penalty. But for those that are you know,
not the max players, and you have to total line.
(17:01):
And it does make a difference in terms of you know,
it's called performance and hint the right. So you are
getting an advantage and we might not think of it
in the same way that we do for sports like
track and field, all right, going all the way back
to Ben Jonson and Carl Lewis, you know, and the eighties,
you know, and the competition between the nations, but it
does give you a distinctive edge over other people. So
(17:24):
Bobby Port, it and those guys that are not the
a one tier uh face of the league. You know
if you get caught, you're gonna have to serve the
suspension and it can't impact your overall career. You might
not get that next contract, you know, So play it straight.
Go out there and work hard.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
And let the check.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
You know, they trying to succeed and get a long career.
Sound good. Thanks for the call. Said it does. In Miami,
you're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Jazz?
Speaker 12 (17:52):
Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Guys?
Speaker 12 (17:53):
What's going on? I just want to say there's two
perspectives on this. If I'm an athlete in the league, yes,
it matters because we're all competing. I'm a competitive dude.
I want to I want to play. I want the
playfield to be level. However, as a fan, I want
to see dude sly. I can care this. I could
care this. I could care this, but I get it
(18:16):
like like like the last of I said, you do
the time, you gotta do the crime.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Hey, Ron, by the.
Speaker 12 (18:20):
Way, I gotta I got a Chief three P T
shirt on the way for you, buddy.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Do you really well? All right? Where'd you go to Nica?
Where'd you get that shirt? I've been in my room, Okay,
all right, all right.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Dad's thanks, appreciate it, Mike, Mike, and Ohio. You're on
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
What's up, buddy, Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 13 (18:41):
Man?
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I love you guys.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Great show, Mike, Hey, we appreciate that for you. It
means a lot. Thank you.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
And I love listening to you guys. I've been it's
you guys do a great job. My issue, particularly my
bone to pick us with baseball.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Okay, and and and Rob.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
I respect your opinion, and I'm a huge fan. And
I understand you're a writer, that you were a writer,
you at boats and stuff. Yes, my issue with baseball
is that they pick and choose. See what no one
talks about, like, Okay, you keep Barry out, you keep
Roger out, you keep the two guys that saved baseball
out and Clements.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And and McGuire, McGuire, they saved baseball. There's no doubt
about that.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Those guys saved baseball. Those guys are out many. Ramirez
is out. One of the smoothest swings in three.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
One of the greatest right handed hit it swings ever.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
There. Those those guys are out, but Bagwell's in. I'm
with you.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
David Ortiz, David Ortiz, who was his name was on
the list, Pudge.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Who I was in Detroit. I know what you're about
to say.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
I was in Detroit, Mike when the story came out
that you know, Conseko was was injecting the needle in
them and all that.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
And Pudge lost forty pounds in the off season. He
came so yeah, and he came back. You didn't almost
want to say him how long you got? He was skinny?
Speaker 6 (20:09):
He was.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
It was unbelievable. And you're right, Pudge got in first ballot.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
Ye.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Yes, And this is my thing, and this is my
thing before if you're going to keep all of all
these guys out and fine, keep them all, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Be consistent, be consistent.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
But when you but when you do, but when you
do this pick and choose thing, I think it's really unfair.
And before any of those guys got in, the Rose
should have got in, because bottom line is the day
after you're able to take your phone out and make
a bet on sports. He should have been in the
Hall of Fame before any.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Of those I just wish Pete would have and thanks
time the bullet and he never really owned up all
the thanks Mike for the call.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Pat great stuff, Mike, great, great stuff. Thank you for
the compliments.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Sean and Nashville. Let's get him in. You're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Sean.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
It's great to be back on with you.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yes, how are you, buddy?
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Doing well? I'm gonna do my best not to get
kicked off this time.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
All right, now, Sean, come on, now, you know this
is a radio show.
Speaker 10 (21:13):
When it comes to.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
The NBA, I don't think it's predominant, but also I
believe that there is a lot of that going on.
H If you go back to the Olympics when the
players were tested, they decided to only test Steph Curry
and the Slim Reaper out of all that group of players.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah, they were like, well those two don't look like
they're on any road, right, so we'll do go ahead?
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Is that true?
Speaker 11 (21:42):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I don't remember that? Patrick, get on it all right?
Thank you, Sean.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Guys don't remember that one.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Thank you all right, Sean, Thank you so much. Gary
Sheffield Junior he can maybe weigh in on this one.
Gary Sheffield Julie. Yeah, he wants to weigh in on
this a little bit. Host of Yankee's Up Unloaded podcasts, Uh,
coming to you love for tirag dot com study, but
right now we got to get you a stategy with Manzi.
Speaker 7 (22:09):
The twenty five games seems a bit much, right if it's.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Right, like, well, that's kind of then the if you
look at some other guys who've had Tristan Thompson this
year was another one twenty five game, well last year
for the.
Speaker 9 (22:22):
Exact same drug, because I don't know exactly that this
drug was just put on the list a little bit
ago within the year.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
So this is new to the list and it's considered an.
Speaker 9 (22:31):
Opioid and it's the fear is that you can make
it a habit type of drug. But they just added
it to the list, and so he was taking to
do which is anti inflammatory.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Pink hit pin use that say like football, that what
they go when he got gets banged to go in
there and that's the joke. He goes and get the
shot and comes back out.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
It's yes, that's what it seems.
Speaker 9 (22:51):
So t I'm like, if you just added it to
the list of substances, seems a little harsh, but what
are you gonna do? We've got a bunch of empty
games going on right now. The Pacers are on top
of the Grizzlies eighty five to sixty four halfway through
the third just like the Celtics, who are beating the
seventy six Ers eighty seven to sixty five halfway through
the second quarter. The Hawks are now on top of
(23:12):
the Magic forty four to thirty three, and the Cavaliers
are beating the Nets forty two to thirty four.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Late in the second quarter.
Speaker 9 (23:18):
The Knicks trying to extend their lead over the Bulls
forty five to thirty nine, Jail and.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Brunson thirteen points.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
Late in the first quarter, the Bucks are edging the
Clippers twenty two to twenty one. Other NBA news, Victor
wan Banyama is being shut down for the rest of
the season because of a blood clot in his shoulder.
Anthony Davis is improving from that adductor strain, but the
MAVs are going to be reevaluating him in two weeks.
No Luca doncis Toni for the Lakers as they take
on the Trailblazers because of calf injury management. In college football,
(23:47):
Texas and USC are not going to be holding spring
games in twenty twenty five, just like Nebraska. And we've
heard about all these burglaries that are happening to athletes.
More apparently, Miami Hurricanes quarterback Carson Back had his Lamborghini
and Mercedes stolen from his home. His girlfriend is Cane's
basketball player, Hailey Cavender, and she had her SUV stolen,
(24:09):
but it's been recovered by police, so it's still going
like it just seems to not have stopped. And in baseball,
you can maybe ask you guys are talking to Sheffield right.
MLB and ESPN have mutually agreed to opt out of
their TV deal after this year, so no more baseball
games it looks like on ESPN following this season to
you guys.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Interesting interesting, interesting to see what is growing?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Trust me, they got a partner absolutely absolutely now yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Somebody, yeah, somebody streaming Hulu, Disney plus.
Speaker 9 (24:46):
Somebody okay right now tell me Apple right that has
like streaming rights with baseball like.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
A Friday night game or maybe Apple bought more what
all this stuff?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yes, sure, MONTI thank you so much. Many live for
the Tirack dot com Studios. It's the Odd Couple. Robin
Kevin on a TV themes on Thursday, joined now by
Gary Sheffield Junior, host Some Yankees Unloaded podcast. You can
follow him on Twitter, Gary Sheffield Junior. Simple, is that?
What's up?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Jeep? What's up?
Speaker 11 (25:15):
But what's going on?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
We're doing doing great as always.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
He's also a contributor to MLB Bro, cause you need
to know, and she did know.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
When we were in New Orleans, Gary, a lady who
definitely maybe not of a bro if you catch my drift,
she might not be celebrating Black History Month. She ran
up on us like, oh my gosh, MLB Bro. We're
still Gary, We're still not convinced. She didn't pay Rob
to do that. He didn't pay her to do that.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
No, No, it was really good. But let's start here.
Aaron Boone new two year contract extension to me. Obviously,
it was disappointing that the World Series ended the way
it did, but the Yankees hadn't been there since two
thousand and nine. They finally get there and you can't
leave him to be at a land up manager?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Am I right? Did this have to happen? Gary?
Speaker 11 (26:05):
Yeah? I mean I would say it did, right, But
at the same time, it's like it's kind of wild
that things have changed in New York. You can now
make it to a World Series and that gets you
an extension. Things have changed. But I guess I'm trying
to get myself into the mentality that I need to
make an adjustment. It's not if if we lose the
World Series now everybody needs to be fired. So I
think Boone should have been safe. I think he deserves
(26:27):
another opportunity. But my problem is this roster, and so
obviously we'll dive into that. Well, right now, we got
pitching around, Yeah, I mean we've got we've got pitching,
and we've always been able to pitch. But at the
same time, it's where are the stars? You look around
the field, and at this point the Yankees are looking
(26:48):
around saying, Okay, Jason Mingez has got to become a
star out their system, Spencer Jones has got to become
a star out their system. And Anthony Wolpy, while he
had the contribution in October, he's not a superstar in
this game. One point or another, you lose Wan Soto,
what comes next? I think right now they're just kind
of looking at Kyle Tucker next year. And that's disappointing
to see a team like the Yankees saying, Okay, we're
(27:10):
gonna go get a stop gap in Paul Goldschman at
first base. We're gonna hang around and wait and talk
about budgets, and then we'll go see a big time
free agent next year. It's tough to watch.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
But to be fair, they offered Wan sol seven sixty yet,
which Gary, I gotta admit, no way know how to
I think this Yankee ownership would offer that money. I
didn't think that they would even come in close to
what he wound up getting, which is seven sixty five
but for one last year than the Yankees had offered.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Right, So it's not the same exact money.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
But were you not surprised that they offered seven sixty
that's seven sixty to Wan Soto never won an MVP,
you know what I mean? Like, I'm not trying to
tear down his career, but seriously, seven sixty somebody else
might do it, not them.
Speaker 11 (28:00):
Yeah, it's a lot of money, But the way I
have to look at baseball is that those numbers were
put out so that the fans can feel better about it.
The reality is is it's how much money per year?
And if wan Sooto had agreed to that sixteen years,
seven hundred and eighty million, whatever that contract was, you
have to look at it from a standpoint of they
would paid him fifty million dollars, essentially a twenty million
(28:23):
dollar raise. All it tells me is that if Wanfoto
came through the door on that deal, the Max Reeds,
the Paul Goldschmith that you see that they brought in afterwards,
those deals wouldn't have been made. So as far as
I'm concerned, you're really agreeing to fifty million dollars for
a player for sixteen seasons?
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Is it a ton?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yes?
Speaker 11 (28:42):
Is it an overpay?
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Sure?
Speaker 11 (28:44):
But the Yankees and Mets both needed this player and
it was just a matter of who's going to go higher.
The Mets went higher and they got the player. So
here we are.
Speaker 12 (28:52):
He is.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Gary Sheffield Junior, hosts of Yankees Unloaded podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Gary Sheffil Junior on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Gary, speaking kind of staying with the money talk, you
had how Starbrenner come out and say that the Dodgers,
to quote, difficult for most of them, or even Empire,
they're not the new evil empire.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
He's claiming broke or like, oh, we can't keep up
with him? Was spending. I've been doing it for fifty
sixty years, Garrett, you know this. What'd you think of that?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And then just a conversation, people are saying, maybe baseball
needs a salary cat.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 11 (29:22):
I feel like the bully is getting bullied at this point, right.
It's you spent all that time out on the school yard,
scaring half the school, and then all of a sudden,
the bigger batter kid shows up and punches you in
the face. And now suddenly we now we want to
change the rules because how Farmer came out flat out
and said it's tough for the rest of us. And
what he means is the Los Angeles Dodgers essentially continuing
(29:45):
to spend regardless of what they bring in and the
way people looked at it. They bring in a show
Heyo Tani, everyone said seven hundred million, No player will live.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Up to that.
Speaker 11 (29:55):
What ended up happening.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
They bring in more.
Speaker 11 (29:56):
Endorsements, they get more season tickets. They're making a ridiculous
amount of money, and it goes to show the business
model is you put money in, You're gonna get money
back out. The Yankees are trying to do it a
different way and it doesn't win.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Hey, look, just like you've been listening to, Uh, who
do we have again?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Scott Boring Scott Boris the other day he was breaking
it down something similar to what you were saying there, Gary.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
So so Gary in the Uh, where do you see
the Yankees? I mean, is there a chance that they
get back to the World Series. I think they have
as good of a chance coming out of America League
because even with the Mets and Soto.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Look, the National League is stacked.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
I mean obviously you know the Dodgers and you got
the Phillies are a good team, praise.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I mean, it's it's a lot of really good teams.
Where do you see the Yankees?
Speaker 13 (30:40):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Can they make it back? And the teams that could
be in their way in the American.
Speaker 11 (30:44):
League, well, the Boston Red Sox. That's a team that
a lot of people don't want to talk about. They
brought in Bregnant, they made the trade for Garrett Crochet.
So the Al East is going to be tough for
the Yankees, but it's far making it to.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
The World Series.
Speaker 11 (30:55):
You guys are exactly right right being in the an LS,
the deathfense. You don't want to play the Lots Angelis Dodgers.
You don't want to go play. Obviously the Padres are
taking a step back in terms of budget, but you
don't want to play those teams. The Arizona Diamondbacks got
a lot better this offseason, So as far as I'm concerned,
the Yankees do still have a clear path to the
World Series. But the goal is to win the World Series, right,
(31:16):
It's not just to get to the dance. And I
can't sit up here and make the prediction that the
Yankees are competitive in a series with the Dodgers because
the Dodgers got exponentially better. You bring in smell. Yeahmamoto
is going into another year in the big leagues, so
it's going to be tough for us. And yeah, my
prediction has always been high eighties, low nineties wins, go
(31:38):
into a championship series, you win or lose, and go
get wallet by the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I know you're getting ready.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
You know, yesterday Rob clared and decreed that the Dodgers
wouldn't make the World Series.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
They're not gonna win the World Series. Did not say that.
I thought you even said it work. Did you say
to make it or did not win the World So
he said.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
They're not winning. He got into a thought one of
our Dodger guys out here in La. Of course, he said, yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
They're gonna win every game, and of course they're gonna
win the World Series, and they're gonna win every else everything. Gary,
My only point is, you know, baseball, it's not about
what you know on paper.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
A lot teams don't. We saw that. We saw the
Rangers have an unbelievable playoff.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Run right go eleven and on the road, all this
other great stuff, and they didn't even make the playoffs
the next year when baseball added an extra playoff team,
you know, a wild card team, and they didn't even
make you know what else?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
He knows that. And we also know that the last.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Team that Gary to win back to back goes back
to the Yankees five years, so why they.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Can't do that up?
Speaker 11 (32:41):
But so he's rob making a great point, though. The
reality is is you need to be the hot team.
And I think the Dodgers know at this point, Yes,
they've got multiple players on their roster who have won
multiple titles. Freddy Freemans won a championship with the Braves
won a championship with the Dodgers. They know what it takes,
they know that they need to be the hot team.
So as far as you're you're absolutely right.
Speaker 12 (33:01):
It seemed like the.
Speaker 11 (33:02):
Atlanta Braves could show up, the Philadelphia Phillies can maybe
make a deal to deadline and be a contender. You know,
at the end, obviously the Mets got a lot better,
so everyone, if you really watched the postseason last year,
the Padres should have won that series, no doubt, they
should have won that series. Totally blew that series. If
they had won that series and scored once in the
(33:24):
last thirty innings of baseball, we wouldn't be talking about
this Dodgers team the way that we are. The reality
is the Dodgers did end up winning. They did shut
shut it down with their bullpen, and they win won
the World Series and added players. So yeah, it's to
Rob's point, it's much harder for the Dodgers to win
than what people are giving it credit for. But I'm
not taking it against him.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Okay, yeah, that's fair, because you don't want he's a
smart man, that's all right. I'll be right again. I
told you would have been right if you stuck with
your pick.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Hey, hey, Gary, I told Calvin two things during football Seane,
here we go.
Speaker 13 (33:57):
The Yankees A, the Lions would not make you lines,
would not make it to the uper That was easy.
And then I said and then I said the Chiefs
didn't I say all year they will not win a
Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
That those you know, there's you know, there's some stories
part of the story he's leaving out. You know that, Geary.
Speaker 11 (34:18):
As always, I'm an I'm an Eagles fan, so go
fly first and foremost and second of all. I mean,
we we dominated that football game. And when you do that,
that's old school football. We're going to pound the rock.
We're going to we're going to sock the quarterback, not
even bring a blits all games is dominant.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
It was a beat, straight up old school beat down
for no doubt. Alright, all right, g man, thank you
so much. Gary Sheffield Jr. On Twitter. Give him a follow.
We appreciate you.
Speaker 11 (34:47):
All right, guys, I'll see you soon.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Hey, shop talk is next. Patrick's got something lined up
for us. We'll get into that. It is the couple
of Fox sports radio. You got a tissue for me.
I'm waiting on my big show TV show that is,
I got the big radio show with you, Rob. I'm
waiting on my big TV show that I can host.
Like this from American Idol here, I'm waiting on it.
(35:10):
You're laughing, Monzie Temmy your name. I should have never got.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
To take it like it's all the same.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
I'm taking away like it bomb.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
They sounds terrible, that does. It's the odd couple of
Robin Kevin on the TV thing some Thursday. That's when
they have those bad auditions. That No, first of all,
I said bad auditions.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
It's with me. You hear the velvet, you hear this,
you hear this. Let me tell you why. I'm the
third guy in a boy band.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
Okay, I'm not the lead that guy to Timberlake.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
No, I'm not Michael Jackson justin Timberlake.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
And the second dude always rivals, so he can sing
just as well, but they always have that rival.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Which what's his name, jac He can really sing right.
The third guy can keep a note.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
He's either really attracted or he's really funny in the interviews,
and like you just likable.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
That's your boy.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
I'm in the band though, Alex, you're the personality.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah, Like the first second might not have how many
are in? There? Are there? Five?
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Will go minimum four and ye three there's and the
fifth always has like drug issues, always always in and.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Out the gud All right? Are we getting to shop talk?
Shop talk? A problem with that? Who are you? And
the Jackson fies In the beginning of it this was
the shop talk, but it turned into it.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I'm like shop talk my way real.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
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could be the third member of a boy band. I
can keep the dance steps, Patrick, I can sing enough,
and I'll be great at interviews.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Can I be team manager? Because I'm down?
Speaker 6 (36:53):
All right? Rob?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Where are you are you to lead? You're just the
base agent. I want to collect the money, run out
of town. Okay, I'll be here, that's all right. Have
you all right, Patrick? What you got for all right?
Speaker 5 (37:04):
All right, we'll do part two of our show talk
here because that was a fun one. So the other
one I have for us here is so my my
family's going out to a little eighties themed birthday party
this over this weekend and kind of got me thinking
what kind of theme parties do you guys?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
All like, well, I think eighties is totally that's your era,
right Rob, like music Wise and all that.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
You That's what I was listening to in colleges. Yeah,
so formidable years.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
A lot of those songs are locked in burnt in
from college. Oh oh oh, she's magic, It's magic. No,
I know it's it's but she was because you were
the date with But that's the song that I wind
up hearing in the car after my first date with
my wife to be.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Oh yeah, and he knew. I knew, Why didn't. I
was like, she's something we got a tissue for me? Yeah,
I was like yeah walking to the door. Uh huh
you no, okay? All right? Yeah? Yeah, good?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah, all right, Oh that's gig I do like just
because to to Rob's point, the eighties for him. The
nineties for me were that like just formidable years, you know,
between the ninety and ninety nine. I was like, I
don't know, eleven to nineteen or something like that.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
So you're thinking of like like Miami Vice things one too, Yeah,
Miami Vice.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
You know you gotta wear you can have the old
colors and linen, you can have them. Sorry for all
the nerds, like a Marvel one for the nerds out there,
I'm looking at you. How about pajamas, like a pajama.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
O man easy.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
There were some great ones in college, but we always
go to ben Mount parties. Ugly sweat sweater.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
That's the theme. One R is Alex in there? What
is he like? Unked ones?
Speaker 8 (38:49):
Not like cosplay plays really with ads, no cosplay cosplay.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
So I was right.
Speaker 7 (38:55):
So he was still showing off, so I said, So
I was right.
Speaker 8 (38:58):
Okay, yeah, so there's no hot spring around.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
We're good.
Speaker 8 (39:02):
I'm saying you asked for like a fun I would
love to cosplay, Like, have you ever been to a
convention like Comic Con or any dope?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I've always seen or been at a place, you know,
a city where it's going on. I'll tell you this.
I was right time, right place.
Speaker 8 (39:14):
During my anime podcast, I hosted a convention in Las
Vegas at the Las Vegas Convention Center. The craziest thing
I've seen. I was on stage with tens of thousands
of people dressed up greatest time.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Great Does going to EDM in Vegas count?
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, I didn't mean to on purpose. I went to
a fight. I'm there with my wife and I'll be like, hey,
we'll check it in. And it was just cheeks everywhere. Dude,
nothing but cheeks. You want to talk about accidents electronic dance?
Speaker 6 (39:40):
No?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
No, no, Rob. We're like, am I lying? Rob? For
your type, you need to be at DMS. You would, man,
you might not waste so much your mind with nothing.
I mean, And we're trying to figure out what was
all this scattered cheeks going on. I'm like, what's the
cheek clapping? But no one's performing?
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Like Kelvin had a pair of those uh you know,
chaps with the backs missing.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
What are my bricks? Stock? What am I because?
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Because the pants he saw fifty percent off, I ain't
even realizing we're off in the back.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Listen. They at least throw some tips. My way could
have paid for that room. Those tips with those pants
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Aaron Boone two more years for the Yankees. They made
it to the World Series. They didn't win, but they
finally got there a long wait. Two thousand and nine
is the last time the Yankees won a World Series
or been to a World Series.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
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You give the man a deal, give the men the
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Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, Patrick, you ready for that? Son?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I'm ready?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, all right. We got the NBA news too, man.
We obviously Wemby is the biggest news out for the
rest of the season, with the blood clots wishing him
the best man. I really like just his disposition, how
much he cares, plays defense, all that good stuff. So
hopefully he'll be back and better than ever can bounce
back next year. Other NBA news Rob Bobby Porters, who
(02:16):
is the heart and soul outside of Giannis for those
Bucks teams, energy man off the bench, giving him thirteen
to eight.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Well, he has been.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Suspended Rob for twenty five games and they have twenty
nine games left in the season. He's suspended for violating
terms of the NBA NBPA anti drug program by testing
positive for trumadol. The league announced that today. This is
what he had to say Rob about it. He said,
I was dealing with an elbow injury and using an
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NBA approved medication for pain and inflammation during that time,
I made an honest mistake and took a pain reducing
anti inflammatory pill that is not approved. I feel horrible
and recognized that I'm responsible for what I put in
my body.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
From the bottom of my heart.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I want apologize to the Bucks organization, my teammates, coaches, fans, family,
you known' blah blah blah. He said, I'll continue to
work hard get ready for the playoff run. So that's
his coming for him, And then the Bucks said, obviously
it's a set back for them because you know, he
means so much of their team, but they won support
Bobby and he's just making as if it was an
honest mistake.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
No, I mean, you would think and you would understand
this is your livelihood, you know what I mean, Like
you have to make sure everything that goes in your body.
I mean, I mean this is not me or you
and whatnot. There's gotta be you have to make sure
you're not exactly they're testing people. So you can't allow
that to happen because if that was that mean, people
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make honest mistakes all the time, more than just a
player every so often. Right, it would be ten players
or twenty players exactly, right, if.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
It was just like, oh, I just took something that
I know.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
So that's always a little question mark there, you know
when you see something like that happen. And I guess
my other thing too, when I think all the time,
is it is there? Because you know you hear that
in baseball too. Ah, I was taking something and they
told me from my throwing arm, right, I'm back been hurting.
Remember many were mirrors with the Dodgers, like a fertility drug.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
He claimed that, you know he was taking a.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Trying he was taking a fertility can't that be the woman?
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well he was trying to an up on the soldiers, okay,
trying to get more soldiers if you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
But I just wonder and and and where are you
on this?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I mean, there have been players who have been suspended
for p d s in the n b A.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Who was it Withshard Lewis? Is that who it was?
Who's the guy with the Orlando Magic might have been
with Lewis?
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Can you look that up? Patrick Guy's NBA players? Who
was suspended? I just right off the top of my head,
and I don't want to I want to make sure
we get that right. But where are you on that?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
It was?
Speaker 5 (04:57):
It?
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Was he?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Anybody else?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
So?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Yeah, I'm like I got that one quick. I knew
there was somebody from the Magic. I'm wrong when I
said with Shawd Lewis.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
He was suspended too.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
Rashard Lewis without paid for the first ten games of
the nine season though.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Okay, hang around he do see? So that was in Orlando.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I just wonder where when you whenever you hear something
like this, do you think that there's.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
More to it? Or the league?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I mean, obviously the league would rather not in the NFL? Dude,
do you think people aren't taking stuff? And for whatever reason,
people don't frown upon NFL guys when they get busted,
they miss four games, they come back and everybody goes Coomba, y'all,
let's get going. You can still win awards. No career
is not tainted. Nobody looks at you sideways. It's weird
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so great. That's a great question. I think Bobby. I
don't think that he knew per se like I'm taking
this thing. But I absolutely think he knew. Hey, man,
it's more powerful than what you got. I don't know
if it's you know, good or not.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I just know it works, it's powerful. It might be sketchy,
you can take it meaning. I don't know if he
literally knew what he was taking, but I think he knew.
It wasn't on the normal NBA playing, if you know
what I mean. I do believe that, and I do
believe guys push it, in the words of that one
song from Back and the Day, push it to the limits.
I think they push it to the limit, like how
far can I go taking whatever is whatever that will
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help me?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And you and I talk about this all the time
of the off the mic recover. They're not just to.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Walk around swoll up and about recovering, about people recovering.
They're playing eighty two games. That's just the games. They're
practicing all the time. You know, they got nagging injuries.
Some of them have chronic injuries, meaning it's never gonna
get better, your knees, never gonna get your back's never
gonna get better. Steve Nash with his back, Tracy McGrady
with his back.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
So people don't understand, like with baseball, it wasn't like, Okay,
we're gonna do this just to hit home runs, because
if you can't hit a home run, I don't care,
you know how, just not buff exactly. It has nothing
to do with being But there's a the eye, hand coordination,
and everybody doesn't have a home run swing.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You know that there are sluggers who.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Have the natural, beautiful swing that can knock the ball
out of the park.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Everybody can't do it, but I always want to. Recovery
is where you were going.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Yeah, the recovery is the same thing in base one
hundred and sixty two, one hundred and sixty two games.
And that's why pictures have been busted as much as
hitters because.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
We talked about the shoulder of the arm. Dude, it's
picture man It is really, really tough. Anybody. You and
I have done this for years, U since nineteen eighty seven,
meter for going on twenty years here in a few
if you spend any time with ex athletes, I don't
name the sport outside of maybe golf, but look at
Tiger Woods, beat down batter man. That stuff takes a
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toll on your body. I don't care what it is, man, this.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Isn't recreational playing every other week.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
No, they're handy millions. I gotta perform, right, I gotta
show up. My family needs this money. And we talked
about this yesterday.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Everybody ain't making a guarantee fifty million years. You got
like we got the Dodgers network up here. Jerry Harrison Jr.
Was just, you know, just a guy on team trying
to make it. You think he can be like, oh hey, guys,
I'm probably not gonna show up.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
A few weeks. I don't feel good. I got an
this thing or they gonna cut me on matter. In fact,
Jerry won the World Series with the Yankees, and he
did for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
So my point is, man, these guys got to play
through stuff you never look know about. I'll tell you
when I used to do the show with Marcella's Wiley.
One of the things he said to me, you talking
about us fans, He's like, you guys think about acl
tears and and you know, major injuries. He said, what
about when a guy steps with his metal cleats in
your shin and rips meat out your shin. But you
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get in there, You're like, hey, normal person's out leg
wrapped up for two weeks. Patrick, They're like, get back
in there, next play, dude, chunks of my shin is
out on the field.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
You'll be all right.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
And so it's just they go through so much that
if you can tell them, hey, man, here's a little
something to help with the pain, speed up the process,
right and this, And you know they're always ahead of
the testing, right, So they're on something that we don't
know about that eventually we know about because the testing
catches up. So do I think track stars, Shoot, I
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read the Baco book absolutely, track swimming, cycling. You know
all these man they're gonna push the limits so that
they can perform so we can love it, we can
enjoy it. And it just doesn't shock me if you
tell me somebody's been using pds considering what it takes
to be good, to be great at that level consistently
all the time.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Now, I think that it's hard to believe, right that
it isn't more rampant. People don't get you know, and
you've talked about it in the doping world or drugs
or whatever. In sports, there's masking agents, there's things that
can can hide what exactly you're doing. I just wonder
(09:48):
if this will ever for whatever reason, it doesn't seem
even though they have the rules in place, we don't
see it in the NBA as much.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, and the NFL we see it, Uh, but it's
not frowned upon.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I think it's not gladiators like subconscious that we all
know how brutal and violent it is.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Baseball is totally different.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Like if you get that, Uh, Fernando Tattoos Junior couldn't
have been a bigger star when he came to am
I Right, he's like secondary now and he's still he's playing.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Great, and he's fortunate is now this was this is
your five.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Oh six, no, right, and and he has twenty years
He's so young when it happened. He has a long
way to go that he could maybe like change people
if he stays clean and has a big you know,
put up the numbers.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
He had a great year last year.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Do you think that hell that Barry Bonds, that we
almost have two halves of his career, meaning like the
first ten years we didn't assume he was on him
and he's the Hall of Fame player, but bat ten
and then the next ten we assume.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
But the writers are different now and are changing. That's
why I think tattoos has a chance.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
I agree five or something.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
The older writers are the ones, and Barry Bonds was close.
Remember you need seventy five percent sixty eight, So it.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Wasn't like that was that first half of his career thing.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
You see what I'm saying, right, It wasn't like people
are like, no way, no how, and he was getting
twenty percent or five percent. He fell off and everybody thought, no,
we were because everybody knows when he was the skinny
Barry Bonds was a great player with Pittsburgh Agree he
won three m vps YEP, and then he went to
San Francisco and still was great. But I just wonder,
I do I always wonder how widespread it is and
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and do you think the league the league if they can,
would they want to hide it? Do you think they
hide it if there's a higher profile player, do you do?
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You know what I mean? Like like I do wonder
and now.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Because because major League Baseball they were they got their
biggest stars. I mean, like like for real, like they
just threw the hammer down on some of the biggest
stars of the game. Don't want Hall of Famers. There's
about four or five Hall of famers who are not
in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Ride because of this.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Many were mirrors rams a rod We said, Barry, you know,
missing a couple off top of my head.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
But yeah, Roger Cleming, I mean there's four right there,
without even and Mark McGuire there's five. There's five without
even thinking about it. Those are first ballot Hall of
Famers with all the numbers, all the credentials.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
And not only the Hall of Fame part, they had
the relevance part too, you know what I mean, because
you could be quiet and be a Hall of Famer.
Barry Bonds was baseball from like two thousand to two
thousand and four or something.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
You know, she talked about all the time during the
when we're working for the New York Times. He went
to every The New York Times covered every game, and
Chris would go around every every series during that track.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
It was that b and I mean, dude, growing up,
we weren't necessarily the biggest baseball fans. Guess what we
did when Barry Bonds was up? Yeah, what are we
doing tonight? We're hitting the club? Hold up, hold up, Barry,
let me see why?
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Right?
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Okay, they struck anyway, what were doing?
Speaker 6 (12:53):
Like?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
He stopped. I don't care what you were doing.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
If you were at a party, Barry Bond's at the bat,
shut up, hold on, and then you have you know
what happened in the summer of ninety eight with Sammy
Sosa and Mark Mark maguire, which, by the way, what
complexion is Sammy Sosa right now?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I think he's beige? No, what is he? Moncey? He
looked like he's supposed to look like me. He looking
like you?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Yes, okay, Mancy, And in fact he had Mancy, you
might be too dark, you dark complexing compared to I.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
Was gonna say it might be a little bit more
tan than him.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I mean, it's full on, Michael Jackson right now, you
want to off the wall. Michael Jackson and he went bad,
Like what do you want?
Speaker 2 (13:28):
He might look a bit like your sweat yeh, yeah,
like that. I mean like it's like racist. What's the fact?
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Go look at it. You'll look it up and you'll
be like, what, No, Alex, have you seen Alex coogle
it right now?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Patrick? You know what I'm talking about? Like, no, but
I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Like, Patrick, he looked like your arm right now. Yeah,
he was saying. He was like showing you guys, it
was Rob's complexion. Yes, really in the summer of ninety
eight hitting home runs. Yes he now right now.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
All of you to wait and hear the truth.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
All right?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
Eight seven so ninety nine on Fox, can't do it?
Eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six, sixty three, sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Just your thoughts on how widespread Yeah, Bobby Porters, you know,
said that he took something that he won supposed we
got suspended twenty five games.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
That's a lot of games. That's a lot of games,
well over a quarter of the season.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
So just wonder do you think PD juice, whatever you
want to use is more widespread in sports than we
really know?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Are you cool with it?
Speaker 4 (14:34):
If they are using you know what I mean, does
that bother you if you find out?
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Because it doesn't bother football players?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
And you're right, the gladiated, the kind of thing might
be the reason why we want to hear a good conference.
It's just a conversation about this. And Bobby Porters is
the one who sparked it with his suspension. Where are you?
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binding should be We're talking about Bobby Porter suspended twenty
five games for using a banned substance? Is this rampant?
Is this widespread in sports? Do you even care? Maybe
you don't care?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
What do you think? Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox?
Who we got.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
Andre in Massachusetts? You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio? Where are you Dre on the Jews?
Speaker 10 (16:24):
Hey, how you doing?
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Listen for me?
Speaker 10 (16:25):
You know, do the crime, you have to do the time.
And I do feel that these things are more prevalent
than people realize that. The bottom line for me in
terms of guys like Bobby portis your fringe players, your
role players.
Speaker 11 (16:37):
You're not going to get the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 10 (16:38):
Okay when it comes to the superstars and the people
that are the face of the league and who you
need to have out there, you know, and some people
have been linked tenuously to performance, performance and has canting drugs.
Not going to say any names, but they'll get the
you know, well maybe you know, and you can kind
of pull out the string and there's not going to
be a penalty. But for those that are you know,
not the max players, and you have to total line.
(17:01):
And it does make a difference in terms of you know,
it's called performance and hint the right. So you are
getting an advantage and we might not think of it
in the same way that we do for sports like
track and field, all right, going all the way back
to Ben Jonson and Carl Lewis, you know, and the eighties,
you know, and the competition between the nations, but it
does give you a distinctive edge over other people. So
(17:24):
Bobby Port, it and those guys that are not the
a one tier uh face of the league. You know
if you get caught, you're gonna have to serve the
suspension and it can't impact your overall career. You might
not get that next contract, you know, So play it straight.
Go out there and work hard.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
And let the check.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
You know, they trying to succeed and get a long career.
Sound good. Thanks for the call. Said it does. In Miami,
you're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Jazz?
Speaker 12 (17:52):
Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Guys?
Speaker 12 (17:53):
What's going on? I just want to say there's two
perspectives on this. If I'm an athlete in the league, yes,
it matters because we're all competing. I'm a competitive dude.
I want to I want to play. I want the
playfield to be level. However, as a fan, I want
to see dude sly. I can care this. I could
care this. I could care this, but I get it
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like like like the last of I said, you do
the time, you gotta do the crime.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Hey, Ron, by the.
Speaker 12 (18:20):
Way, I gotta I got a Chief three P T
shirt on the way for you, buddy.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Do you really well? All right? Where'd you go to Nica?
Where'd you get that shirt? I've been in my room, Okay,
all right, all right.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Dad's thanks, appreciate it, Mike, Mike, and Ohio. You're on
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
What's up, buddy, Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 13 (18:41):
Man?
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I love you guys.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
Great show, Mike, Hey, we appreciate that for you. It
means a lot. Thank you.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
And I love listening to you guys. I've been it's
you guys do a great job. My issue, particularly my
bone to pick us with baseball.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Okay, and and and Rob.
Speaker 6 (19:00):
I respect your opinion, and I'm a huge fan. And
I understand you're a writer, that you were a writer,
you at boats and stuff. Yes, my issue with baseball
is that they pick and choose. See what no one
talks about, like, Okay, you keep Barry out, you keep
Roger out, you keep the two guys that saved baseball
out and Clements.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
And and McGuire, McGuire, they saved baseball. There's no doubt
about that.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Those guys saved baseball. Those guys are out many. Ramirez
is out. One of the smoothest swings in three.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
One of the greatest right handed hit it swings ever.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
There. Those those guys are out, but Bagwell's in. I'm
with you.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
David Ortiz, David Ortiz, who was his name was on
the list, Pudge.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Who I was in Detroit. I know what you're about
to say.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
I was in Detroit, Mike when the story came out
that you know, Conseko was was injecting the needle in
them and all that.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
And Pudge lost forty pounds in the off season. He
came so yeah, and he came back. You didn't almost
want to say him how long you got? He was skinny?
Speaker 6 (20:09):
He was.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
It was unbelievable. And you're right, Pudge got in first ballot.
Speaker 10 (20:14):
Ye.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
Yes, And this is my thing, and this is my
thing before if you're going to keep all of all
these guys out and fine, keep them all, I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Be consistent, be consistent.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
But when you but when you do, but when you
do this pick and choose thing, I think it's really unfair.
And before any of those guys got in, the Rose
should have got in, because bottom line is the day
after you're able to take your phone out and make
a bet on sports. He should have been in the
Hall of Fame before any.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Of those I just wish Pete would have and thanks
time the bullet and he never really owned up all
the thanks Mike for the call.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Pat great stuff, Mike, great, great stuff. Thank you for
the compliments.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
Sean and Nashville. Let's get him in. You're on the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Sean.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
It's great to be back on with you.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yes, how are you, buddy?
Speaker 6 (21:04):
Doing well? I'm gonna do my best not to get
kicked off this time.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
All right, now, Sean, come on, now, you know this
is a radio show.
Speaker 10 (21:13):
When it comes to.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
The NBA, I don't think it's predominant, but also I
believe that there is a lot of that going on.
H If you go back to the Olympics when the
players were tested, they decided to only test Steph Curry
and the Slim Reaper out of all that group of players.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Yeah, they were like, well those two don't look like
they're on any road, right, so we'll do go ahead?
Speaker 6 (21:41):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Is that true?
Speaker 11 (21:42):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
I don't remember that? Patrick, get on it all right?
Thank you, Sean.
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Guys don't remember that one.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Thank you all right, Sean, Thank you so much. Gary
Sheffield Junior he can maybe weigh in on this one.
Gary Sheffield Julie. Yeah, he wants to weigh in on
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Speaker 7 (22:09):
The twenty five games seems a bit much, right if it's.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Right, like, well, that's kind of then the if you
look at some other guys who've had Tristan Thompson this
year was another one twenty five game, well last year
for the.
Speaker 9 (22:22):
Exact same drug, because I don't know exactly that this
drug was just put on the list a little bit
ago within the year.
Speaker 7 (22:28):
So this is new to the list and it's considered an.
Speaker 9 (22:31):
Opioid and it's the fear is that you can make
it a habit type of drug. But they just added
it to the list, and so he was taking to
do which is anti inflammatory.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Pink hit pin use that say like football, that what
they go when he got gets banged to go in
there and that's the joke. He goes and get the
shot and comes back out.
Speaker 7 (22:50):
It's yes, that's what it seems.
Speaker 9 (22:51):
So t I'm like, if you just added it to
the list of substances, seems a little harsh, but what
are you gonna do? We've got a bunch of empty
games going on right now. The Pacers are on top
of the Grizzlies eighty five to sixty four halfway through
the third just like the Celtics, who are beating the
seventy six Ers eighty seven to sixty five halfway through
the second quarter. The Hawks are now on top of
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the Magic forty four to thirty three, and the Cavaliers
are beating the Nets forty two to thirty four.
Speaker 7 (23:17):
Late in the second quarter.
Speaker 9 (23:18):
The Knicks trying to extend their lead over the Bulls
forty five to thirty nine, Jail and.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Brunson thirteen points.
Speaker 9 (23:23):
Late in the first quarter, the Bucks are edging the
Clippers twenty two to twenty one. Other NBA news, Victor
wan Banyama is being shut down for the rest of
the season because of a blood clot in his shoulder.
Anthony Davis is improving from that adductor strain, but the
MAVs are going to be reevaluating him in two weeks.
No Luca doncis Toni for the Lakers as they take
on the Trailblazers because of calf injury management. In college football,
(23:47):
Texas and USC are not going to be holding spring
games in twenty twenty five, just like Nebraska. And we've
heard about all these burglaries that are happening to athletes.
More apparently, Miami Hurricanes quarterback Carson Back had his Lamborghini
and Mercedes stolen from his home. His girlfriend is Cane's
basketball player, Hailey Cavender, and she had her SUV stolen,
(24:09):
but it's been recovered by police, so it's still going
like it just seems to not have stopped. And in baseball,
you can maybe ask you guys are talking to Sheffield right.
MLB and ESPN have mutually agreed to opt out of
their TV deal after this year, so no more baseball
games it looks like on ESPN following this season to
you guys.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Interesting interesting, interesting to see what is growing?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Trust me, they got a partner absolutely absolutely now yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Somebody, yeah, somebody streaming Hulu, Disney plus.
Speaker 9 (24:46):
Somebody okay right now tell me Apple right that has
like streaming rights with baseball like.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
A Friday night game or maybe Apple bought more what
all this stuff?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yes, sure, MONTI thank you so much. Many live for
the Tirack dot com Studios. It's the Odd Couple. Robin
Kevin on a TV themes on Thursday, joined now by
Gary Sheffield Junior, host Some Yankees Unloaded podcast. You can
follow him on Twitter, Gary Sheffield Junior. Simple, is that?
What's up?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Jeep? What's up?
Speaker 11 (25:15):
But what's going on?
Speaker 2 (25:17):
We're doing doing great as always.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
He's also a contributor to MLB Bro, cause you need
to know, and she did know.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
When we were in New Orleans, Gary, a lady who
definitely maybe not of a bro if you catch my drift,
she might not be celebrating Black History Month. She ran
up on us like, oh my gosh, MLB Bro. We're
still Gary, We're still not convinced. She didn't pay Rob
to do that. He didn't pay her to do that.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
No, No, it was really good. But let's start here.
Aaron Boone new two year contract extension to me. Obviously,
it was disappointing that the World Series ended the way
it did, but the Yankees hadn't been there since two
thousand and nine. They finally get there and you can't
leave him to be at a land up manager?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Am I right? Did this have to happen? Gary?
Speaker 11 (26:05):
Yeah? I mean I would say it did, right, But
at the same time, it's like it's kind of wild
that things have changed in New York. You can now
make it to a World Series and that gets you
an extension. Things have changed. But I guess I'm trying
to get myself into the mentality that I need to
make an adjustment. It's not if if we lose the
World Series now everybody needs to be fired. So I
think Boone should have been safe. I think he deserves
(26:27):
another opportunity. But my problem is this roster, and so
obviously we'll dive into that. Well, right now, we got
pitching around, Yeah, I mean we've got we've got pitching,
and we've always been able to pitch. But at the
same time, it's where are the stars? You look around
the field, and at this point the Yankees are looking
(26:48):
around saying, Okay, Jason Mingez has got to become a
star out their system, Spencer Jones has got to become
a star out their system. And Anthony Wolpy, while he
had the contribution in October, he's not a superstar in
this game. One point or another, you lose Wan Soto,
what comes next? I think right now they're just kind
of looking at Kyle Tucker next year. And that's disappointing
to see a team like the Yankees saying, Okay, we're
(27:10):
gonna go get a stop gap in Paul Goldschman at
first base. We're gonna hang around and wait and talk
about budgets, and then we'll go see a big time
free agent next year. It's tough to watch.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
But to be fair, they offered Wan sol seven sixty yet,
which Gary, I gotta admit, no way know how to
I think this Yankee ownership would offer that money. I
didn't think that they would even come in close to
what he wound up getting, which is seven sixty five
but for one last year than the Yankees had offered.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Right, So it's not the same exact money.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
But were you not surprised that they offered seven sixty
that's seven sixty to Wan Soto never won an MVP,
you know what I mean? Like, I'm not trying to
tear down his career, but seriously, seven sixty somebody else
might do it, not them.
Speaker 11 (28:00):
Yeah, it's a lot of money, But the way I
have to look at baseball is that those numbers were
put out so that the fans can feel better about it.
The reality is is it's how much money per year?
And if wan Sooto had agreed to that sixteen years,
seven hundred and eighty million, whatever that contract was, you
have to look at it from a standpoint of they
would paid him fifty million dollars, essentially a twenty million
(28:23):
dollar raise. All it tells me is that if Wanfoto
came through the door on that deal, the Max Reeds,
the Paul Goldschmith that you see that they brought in afterwards,
those deals wouldn't have been made. So as far as
I'm concerned, you're really agreeing to fifty million dollars for
a player for sixteen seasons?
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Is it a ton?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yes?
Speaker 11 (28:42):
Is it an overpay?
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Sure?
Speaker 11 (28:44):
But the Yankees and Mets both needed this player and
it was just a matter of who's going to go higher.
The Mets went higher and they got the player. So
here we are.
Speaker 12 (28:52):
He is.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Gary Sheffield Junior, hosts of Yankees Unloaded podcast.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Gary Sheffil Junior on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Gary, speaking kind of staying with the money talk, you
had how Starbrenner come out and say that the Dodgers,
to quote, difficult for most of them, or even Empire,
they're not the new evil empire.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
He's claiming broke or like, oh, we can't keep up
with him? Was spending. I've been doing it for fifty
sixty years, Garrett, you know this. What'd you think of that?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And then just a conversation, people are saying, maybe baseball
needs a salary cat.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 11 (29:22):
I feel like the bully is getting bullied at this point, right.
It's you spent all that time out on the school yard,
scaring half the school, and then all of a sudden,
the bigger batter kid shows up and punches you in
the face. And now suddenly we now we want to
change the rules because how Farmer came out flat out
and said it's tough for the rest of us. And
what he means is the Los Angeles Dodgers essentially continuing
(29:45):
to spend regardless of what they bring in and the
way people looked at it. They bring in a show
Heyo Tani, everyone said seven hundred million, No player will live.
Speaker 6 (29:54):
Up to that.
Speaker 11 (29:55):
What ended up happening.
Speaker 6 (29:56):
They bring in more.
Speaker 11 (29:56):
Endorsements, they get more season tickets. They're making a ridiculous
amount of money, and it goes to show the business
model is you put money in, You're gonna get money
back out. The Yankees are trying to do it a
different way and it doesn't win.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Hey, look, just like you've been listening to, Uh, who
do we have again?
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Scott Boring Scott Boris the other day he was breaking
it down something similar to what you were saying there, Gary.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
So so Gary in the Uh, where do you see
the Yankees? I mean, is there a chance that they
get back to the World Series. I think they have
as good of a chance coming out of America League
because even with the Mets and Soto.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Look, the National League is stacked.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
I mean obviously you know the Dodgers and you got
the Phillies are a good team, praise.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I mean, it's it's a lot of really good teams.
Where do you see the Yankees?
Speaker 13 (30:40):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Can they make it back? And the teams that could
be in their way in the American.
Speaker 11 (30:44):
League, well, the Boston Red Sox. That's a team that
a lot of people don't want to talk about. They
brought in Bregnant, they made the trade for Garrett Crochet.
So the Al East is going to be tough for
the Yankees, but it's far making it to.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
The World Series.
Speaker 11 (30:55):
You guys are exactly right right being in the an LS,
the deathfense. You don't want to play the Lots Angelis Dodgers.
You don't want to go play. Obviously the Padres are
taking a step back in terms of budget, but you
don't want to play those teams. The Arizona Diamondbacks got
a lot better this offseason, So as far as I'm concerned,
the Yankees do still have a clear path to the
World Series. But the goal is to win the World Series, right,
(31:16):
It's not just to get to the dance. And I
can't sit up here and make the prediction that the
Yankees are competitive in a series with the Dodgers because
the Dodgers got exponentially better. You bring in smell. Yeahmamoto
is going into another year in the big leagues, so
it's going to be tough for us. And yeah, my
prediction has always been high eighties, low nineties wins, go
(31:38):
into a championship series, you win or lose, and go
get wallet by the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
I know you're getting ready.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
You know, yesterday Rob clared and decreed that the Dodgers
wouldn't make the World Series.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
They're not gonna win the World Series. Did not say that.
I thought you even said it work. Did you say
to make it or did not win the World So
he said.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
They're not winning. He got into a thought one of
our Dodger guys out here in La. Of course, he said, yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
They're gonna win every game, and of course they're gonna
win the World Series, and they're gonna win every else everything. Gary,
My only point is, you know, baseball, it's not about
what you know on paper.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
A lot teams don't. We saw that. We saw the
Rangers have an unbelievable playoff.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Run right go eleven and on the road, all this
other great stuff, and they didn't even make the playoffs
the next year when baseball added an extra playoff team,
you know, a wild card team, and they didn't even
make you know what else?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
He knows that. And we also know that the last.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Team that Gary to win back to back goes back
to the Yankees five years, so why they.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Can't do that up?
Speaker 11 (32:41):
But so he's rob making a great point, though. The
reality is is you need to be the hot team.
And I think the Dodgers know at this point, Yes,
they've got multiple players on their roster who have won
multiple titles. Freddy Freemans won a championship with the Braves
won a championship with the Dodgers. They know what it takes,
they know that they need to be the hot team.
So as far as you're you're absolutely right.
Speaker 12 (33:01):
It seemed like the.
Speaker 11 (33:02):
Atlanta Braves could show up, the Philadelphia Phillies can maybe
make a deal to deadline and be a contender. You know,
at the end, obviously the Mets got a lot better,
so everyone, if you really watched the postseason last year,
the Padres should have won that series, no doubt, they
should have won that series. Totally blew that series. If
they had won that series and scored once in the
(33:24):
last thirty innings of baseball, we wouldn't be talking about
this Dodgers team the way that we are. The reality
is the Dodgers did end up winning. They did shut
shut it down with their bullpen, and they win won
the World Series and added players. So yeah, it's to
Rob's point, it's much harder for the Dodgers to win
than what people are giving it credit for. But I'm
not taking it against him.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Okay, yeah, that's fair, because you don't want he's a
smart man, that's all right. I'll be right again. I
told you would have been right if you stuck with
your pick.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Hey, hey, Gary, I told Calvin two things during football Seane,
here we go.
Speaker 13 (33:57):
The Yankees A, the Lions would not make you lines,
would not make it to the uper That was easy.
And then I said and then I said the Chiefs
didn't I say all year they will not win a
Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
That those you know, there's you know, there's some stories
part of the story he's leaving out. You know that, Geary.
Speaker 11 (34:18):
As always, I'm an I'm an Eagles fan, so go
fly first and foremost and second of all. I mean,
we we dominated that football game. And when you do that,
that's old school football. We're going to pound the rock.
We're going to we're going to sock the quarterback, not
even bring a blits all games is dominant.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
It was a beat, straight up old school beat down
for no doubt. Alright, all right, g man, thank you
so much. Gary Sheffield Jr. On Twitter. Give him a follow.
We appreciate you.
Speaker 11 (34:47):
All right, guys, I'll see you soon.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Hey, shop talk is next. Patrick's got something lined up
for us. We'll get into that. It is the couple
of Fox sports radio. You got a tissue for me.
I'm waiting on my big show TV show that is,
I got the big radio show with you, Rob. I'm
waiting on my big TV show that I can host.
Like this from American Idol here, I'm waiting on it.
(35:10):
You're laughing, Monzie Temmy your name. I should have never got.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
To take it like it's all the same.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
I'm taking away like it bomb.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
They sounds terrible, that does. It's the odd couple of
Robin Kevin on the TV thing some Thursday. That's when
they have those bad auditions. That No, first of all,
I said bad auditions.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
It's with me. You hear the velvet, you hear this,
you hear this. Let me tell you why. I'm the
third guy in a boy band.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
Okay, I'm not the lead that guy to Timberlake.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
No, I'm not Michael Jackson justin Timberlake.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
And the second dude always rivals, so he can sing
just as well, but they always have that rival.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Which what's his name, jac He can really sing right.
The third guy can keep a note.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
He's either really attracted or he's really funny in the interviews,
and like you just likable.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
That's your boy.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
I'm in the band though, Alex, you're the personality.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah, Like the first second might not have how many
are in? There? Are there? Five?
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Will go minimum four and ye three there's and the
fifth always has like drug issues, always always in and.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Out the gud All right? Are we getting to shop talk?
Shop talk? A problem with that? Who are you? And
the Jackson fies In the beginning of it this was
the shop talk, but it turned into it.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
I'm like shop talk my way real.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
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com studio.
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shop talk, but Deggitt it could have been. And I
could be the third member of a boy band. I
can keep the dance steps, Patrick, I can sing enough,
and I'll be great at interviews.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
Can I be team manager? Because I'm down?
Speaker 6 (36:53):
All right? Rob?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Where are you are you to lead? You're just the
base agent. I want to collect the money, run out
of town. Okay, I'll be here, that's all right. Have
you all right, Patrick? What you got for all right?
Speaker 5 (37:04):
All right, we'll do part two of our show talk
here because that was a fun one. So the other
one I have for us here is so my my
family's going out to a little eighties themed birthday party
this over this weekend and kind of got me thinking
what kind of theme parties do you guys?
Speaker 1 (37:20):
All like, well, I think eighties is totally that's your era,
right Rob, like music Wise and all that.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
You That's what I was listening to in colleges. Yeah,
so formidable years.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
A lot of those songs are locked in burnt in
from college. Oh oh oh, she's magic, It's magic. No,
I know it's it's but she was because you were
the date with But that's the song that I wind
up hearing in the car after my first date with
my wife to be.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Oh yeah, and he knew. I knew, Why didn't. I
was like, she's something we got a tissue for me? Yeah,
I was like yeah walking to the door. Uh huh
you no, okay? All right? Yeah? Yeah, good?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
Yeah, all right, Oh that's gig I do like just
because to to Rob's point, the eighties for him. The
nineties for me were that like just formidable years, you know,
between the ninety and ninety nine. I was like, I
don't know, eleven to nineteen or something like that.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
So you're thinking of like like Miami Vice things one too, Yeah,
Miami Vice.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
You know you gotta wear you can have the old
colors and linen, you can have them. Sorry for all
the nerds, like a Marvel one for the nerds out there,
I'm looking at you. How about pajamas, like a pajama.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
O man easy.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
There were some great ones in college, but we always
go to ben Mount parties. Ugly sweat sweater.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
That's the theme. One R is Alex in there? What
is he like? Unked ones?
Speaker 8 (38:49):
Not like cosplay plays really with ads, no cosplay cosplay.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
So I was right.
Speaker 7 (38:55):
So he was still showing off, so I said, So
I was right.
Speaker 8 (38:58):
Okay, yeah, so there's no hot spring around.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
We're good.
Speaker 8 (39:02):
I'm saying you asked for like a fun I would
love to cosplay, Like, have you ever been to a
convention like Comic Con or any dope?
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I've always seen or been at a place, you know,
a city where it's going on. I'll tell you this.
I was right time, right place.
Speaker 8 (39:14):
During my anime podcast, I hosted a convention in Las
Vegas at the Las Vegas Convention Center. The craziest thing
I've seen. I was on stage with tens of thousands
of people dressed up greatest time.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Great Does going to EDM in Vegas count?
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Yeah, I didn't mean to on purpose. I went to
a fight. I'm there with my wife and I'll be like, hey,
we'll check it in. And it was just cheeks everywhere. Dude,
nothing but cheeks. You want to talk about accidents electronic dance?
Speaker 6 (39:40):
No?
Speaker 2 (39:40):
No, no, Rob. We're like, am I lying? Rob? For
your type, you need to be at DMS. You would, man,
you might not waste so much your mind with nothing.
I mean, And we're trying to figure out what was
all this scattered cheeks going on. I'm like, what's the
cheek clapping? But no one's performing?
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Like Kelvin had a pair of those uh you know,
chaps with the backs missing.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
What are my bricks? Stock? What am I because?
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Because the pants he saw fifty percent off, I ain't
even realizing we're off in the back.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Listen. They at least throw some tips. My way could
have paid for that room. Those tips with those pants
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