Andy Furman & Bucky Brooks Breakdown Tournament Insanity, Ponder If Joe Burrow Got His Wish, Winners & Losers Of Free Agency, Who To Blame, And More!!

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Speaker 3 (00:13):
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Speaker 4 (00:37):
I'm great? How you doing? Andy?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Well, I'm glad that they hit it. You great, because
you know, I hate to be the bearer of bad news.
But like North Carolina, they look so good in the
games in Dayton, they come right back. Old Miss slapped
them around. I'm sorry, I am sorry. I feel for
I know seventy one sixty four and you know I
had that gut punch yesterday because I didn't go to
Saint John's. But I'm in New York and I love

(01:00):
to see Saint John's just roll along and that was tough.
That was a tough one. I mean, we'll get into
that in a second, but I want to ask you
a couple of questions about this North Carolina thing. Number
one after that game, and I just happened to think
about this. You played the game, you played college football,
played in the pros, the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Have you ever cried after a loss?

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I saw the McNee state coach yesterday who's leaving to
go to NC State. I saw him crying in the
locker room with the guys after the game. Have you
ever cried after a loss?

Speaker 5 (01:31):
I think the last time I was visibly upset after
loss was in high school. We lost on a last
second shot and my dad's high school coach. My dad,
like I fell out on the floor like you see
people do on TV. And I remember my dad walking
on the floor and saying, get up, get up, stand up,
go walk across the thing and shake their hand.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
It is never that serious.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
So from that moment on, I never really took those
losses like that like I would be sad. But I've
never cried after since. Shoot man, Like senior year of
high school, losing a basketball game to Chapel Hill.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Wow. And I'm sure you've seen teammates crying after losses
even in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I'm sure right.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
Looking in big moments in big games, like you talked
about playoffs, super Bowls, things like that. Yeah, like the
disappointment and a lot of it depends on how you lose.
Did you lose on the last second play, did you
lose on something that is an egregious error or mistake
From someone who never makes those types of mistakes, I
can tell you, like particularly like losing the Super Bowl

(02:34):
on when I was working with the Carolina Panthers and
Vinitary knocked the field goal, let the buzzer to win it,
like I was a scout. But you still feel the
same gut punch, you know, the sadness and all that
other stuff that typically accompanies when the confetti falls and
it's not for you. Yeah, that part is hard, But

(02:54):
I've never, like from that moment, i haven't cried.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
All Right, that's good to hear. I'm glad that you
tough mentally tough.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
No no, no, no no. But and I'm not saying that
I'm not.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
I'm just saying like for me, I just have never
like associated like that, like it'll suck, even watching Carolina
lose years ago when Fillanova hit the shot.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
I think Chris Dunn made have been his name.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
They hit the three point shot to win it in
maybe twenty sixteen. I felt the gut punch. I still
didn't cry, but I mean, like I felt the gut punch.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
All right now, speaking of crying, are we going to
see Hubert Davis crying pretty soon? Is he?

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Is he going to be gone?

Speaker 2 (03:33):
What's the status of Hubert Davis coach events University of
North Carolina.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
You know, it's funny people bring that up, like he's
signed an extension in the middle of the season and
there's been a lot of conversation about his job status
or whatever.

Speaker 4 (03:45):
Even though he's the fastest.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
To one hundred wins in North Carolina basketball history, which
includes Dean Smith and Rule Williams. He's guided him to
a national championship appearance, a Sweet sixteen, and then this
year we three out of four years no matter how
they got in, they got into the tournament.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
So to me, it's kind of crazy.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
But I just feel like there's there's buzz around the
program where people feel like very similar to like Kentucky
and some of those things that they feel like it's
a birthright because they've been so spoored that Carolina should
always be a final four.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
I think the.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
College landscape is different, and I think you can't expect
your teams to do what they used to do in
yesteryear because it's just a completely different landscape, no doubt
about that.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
You know, I did some research on North Carolina because
you're my buddy, and I want to see what's going on.
The athletic director, Bubba Cunningham, you know, I almost couldn't
believe this. He's going to get sixty seven, nine hundred
and five dollars and sixty six cents bonus for UNC
making the men's tournament.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
What the hell did he do? Why is he getting
a bonus?

Speaker 2 (04:44):
And his salaries over eight hundred thousand salaries, eight hundred
and fourteen thousand, eight hundred and sixty eight thousand annual salary.
Get this for making the sweet sixteen. If they would
have made the sweet sixteen, he gets a bonus of
fifty thousand. Final four he gets seventy five thousand, and
if North Carolina would have won the national championship. DC year,
he gets an additional one hundred thousand dollars. Why, I mean,

(05:05):
come on, I mean, I mess. Hubert Davis probably has
that in his contract as well. I'm sure he's the coach.
But the athletic direct there, Bubba cunning Head, what has
he done?

Speaker 3 (05:14):
I don't get it.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
Well, I mean, like the athletic director supports all of
the athletic programs. So the basketball team is doing well
enough to get to the sweet sixteen, that means the
athletic director has provided some form or support to allow
the program to flourish.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
I'm not opposed to that.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
I'm sure in the NIO did like you probably are
paying players bonuses if they get into the sweet sixteen
or whateverf not, that should be the next thing that
we consider.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
So no, I'm not surprised.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
You know, he would have take some of that cash
that he's getting bonuses for sitting on his rump and
put that into the nil pot.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
That's what he should do. But that's for another day. Okay,
here's the deal.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I have watched probably more basketball in the last three
four days that maybe I did all season long, you know,
I mean, honestly, and I'm going to give a Mike North.
Quote here, if Troy University or Troy State, whatever the
hell they want to play in Kentucky the other day,
if they were playing in my backyard, I closed the drapes. Really,
there's no way, on God's green Earth, I'm going to
see Troy play. However, you know, the question is, and

(06:16):
anybody could join anything. I mean, let's get Patty in there.
If you want to talk on Mark, I'm gonna get
some feedback on this and maybe open the phone lines too.
Would you watch the games if there was no betting
on the games?

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Would you watch these games if there were no brackets?

Speaker 2 (06:29):
That's all I want to know, because I don't think
I would, and I'm not really betting on these games.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
But I did fill out a bracket for Fox.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
I didn't even look to see what I did because
I'm sure I'm all torn up already. Didn't put a
lot of thought process in it, because there's not much
thought process to put in. It's a guessing game, it
really is. So you know, would you watch it if
there were no brackets? I don't think people would.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
I don't you know.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
I didn't fill out a bracket, but I'm still watching
my team has been knocked out of it. But I
would say that maybe because it's so unpredictable this year
in terms of who's going to.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Win, that maybe I've tuned in.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
I've watched more college basketball than the last month than
I've ever watched, like just in.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Terms of knowing the team, seeing the teams and those things.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
I watch Houston and Gonzaga last night, watched I mean
like pretty much all the tournament games.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
So to me, they're still compelling.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
It's different because I think so many people want to
look at the college basketball thing and try and connect
it to the NBA. But when I'm watching the tournament,
the tournament is a separate beast. Like I just look
at March Madness for what it is, and part of
that is appreciating these teams that are put together, but
more so, I would say, appreciating the coaches. To me,
the tournament has become more about the coaches, seeing Rick

(07:44):
Patino square off against John Calipari, looking at the job
that Kevin Sampson has done with Houston, Dusty May getting
Michigan into the Sweet sixteen in his first year there,
like looking at some of these things, to me, has
been looking the interesting like Bruce time out.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
For one second.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
I'm so glad you mentioned Dusty May's name because last
year Michigan was eight and twenty four.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
This guy is like really under the radar.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
He had no, they don't took didn't even mention his
name as a possible Coach of the Year candidate.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
I don't think Dusty May.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
I mean eight and twenty four last year Michigan and
what he's done this year, I mean, kudos to him.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
I'm sorry I did to rupt, but.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
No, no, no, no, I mean I'm no, I'm with you.
Like he's done, he's done a terrific job. Like he
has done a fantastic job of getting that team up
and up and going, and the way that they're doing it,
the way that they have been able to kind of
get into the sweet sixteen.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Like all the props in the world deserve to go
his way.

Speaker 5 (08:43):
To me, it's just been a fascinating deal, like just
to watch how the tournament is going, but really the puppeteers,
the coaches seeing seeing those guys go to work, ten
those guys put their finish touches. The thing that is
common to me, you better have a good coach. If
you're going win like the good coaches are the ones
that shine in the tournament. Looking at these guys continue

(09:06):
to do it. The Hall of Famers, the old timers,
those guys have really been impressive when they've had an
opportunity to kind of script it over the course of
the weekend, their teams have found ways to win.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
Right I speaking to good coaches.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
I don't get a little pop over here to my
Columbia guys. Columbia University, they beat Washington in the playing
game Thursday. They lost yesterday, but they beat Washington sixty
three sixty. And Megan Griffith, what a coach he is
at Columbia. I mean, whoever thought columb two Ivy League
schools got in at Columbia be Washington?

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Are you kidding? Sixty three sixty? That was huge?

Speaker 4 (09:35):
It really was.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
And I little did the score last night USC played
I think North Carolina Greensboro where they beat them seventy
one to twenty five. They should have played like four
on five. Really, I mean, I mean, come on, seventy
one to twenty five. I'm sure they pulled some of
the starters out, but come on, I mean, that's ridiculous
and I'm not following with that closely to women's but

(09:56):
I take glances at the scores now and again. But
you know, let's get back to this Saint John's game yesterday.
I mean, they lose to Cali Perry and Arkansas seventy
five sixty six. So I'm hearing people say it's the
greatest coaching job John Cali Perry has ever done. Look, hey,
you know what, do your homework. He took you Master
to the final four. He took Memphis all the way
down there too, so he's done great things. He won

(10:16):
a championship with Kentucky. So this guy has been a
Hall of Fame coach. He's done what he had to do.
And I think something like Arkansas is own to five
oh and six starting the SEC this year, So for
what he has done thus for a great job, I
don't think his best coaching job. But here's the question
I have. What was the deal with Rick Patino putting
his number one player R. J. Lewis Junior on the

(10:38):
bench for like what seventeen eighteen minutes of the game.
The guy was player of the Year in the in
the Big East Conference this year, and he was pressed
asking the media was asking him after the game what happened,
and he kind of like avoided that. Was it a
personality thing? I know, he only shot three for seventeen
from the floor, but still for me, for my money,
he's my guy. I got to live him in there.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Yeah, now he's abed be body language.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
The reason why he was forced to sit down is
he wasn't being a good teammate and you saw some
guys come over and try and talk to him, try
and get him to be a better teammate, exhibit better
leadership in those things. And he couldn't quite get out
of his own head because he.

Speaker 4 (11:20):
Didn't shoot the ball well.

Speaker 5 (11:21):
So Rick sat him down, as he's been known to do,
like there's certain things that you have to do at
Saint John's, certain things you have to do when it
comes to like playing for them. They talk about attitude
and effort a lot.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
He didn't exhibit those things.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
He didn't show enough toughness to play through difficult moments,
and so they elected to play with somebody else. I mean,
I give him credit for sticking to his gun and
his beliefs.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I mean, I'm sure he wanted a play it, but
he probably knew the right thing to do was not
the play, and I saw a couple of teammates kind
of shaking him on the court like you know, hey,
you know to me, like it was all about him,
and he was upset. Then he was more of a
one man show rather than a teammate at that point

(12:07):
in time. I guess some of these guys think they
could do it on their own, but it didn't work
out that way. And I was pulling for Saint John's.
I thought it would have been a great thing, a
great season for Rick Patino and New York City basketball
kind of went down on the food. I did not
think that they would lose to Arkansas. I did not
think that would happen.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
Arkansas play, the Arkistas all played great.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
Haven't paid close attention to the SEC just because everyone
had raved about how great the basketball was. I would
say part of the reason people are really really excited
for John color Party is because he went from being
the favorite right to bully when he was at Kentucky
to the undog where he goes to Arkansas, takes over
a downtrotten program. At one point the SEC they were

(12:47):
on five, and turns them around. They get to go in,
they start playing hard. He comes back home, he knocks
off Kentucky at Kentucky. The team just competes. And what
you saw against Saint John's was really a microcosm of
the season and how hard they played.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
They just play hardy.

Speaker 5 (13:05):
They went toe to toe with Saint John's because the
thing that Saint John's has been able to do all year,
they've been able to kind of bully people by overwhelming
them with their effort, their toughness, their relentlessness, and those things.
Arkansas stood in there, stood in the fire, didn't back down,
didn't relent, and it was one of the reasons why
they were able to come out on top it. Look, man,

(13:26):
it's great to see coaches make a difference. He certainly
made a difference in terms of elevating this team, getting
this team to play really, really well, getting to play hard.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
That's why they're successful.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
No doubt about that.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
So yesterday two of the four number one seeds advanced
this year to the next round. Auburn one. They became
the first number one seed to go to the Sweet sixteen.
They beat up on Create and that was a pretty
good game. The eighty two seventy game they pulled away
at the end. But I love the Houston Cougars. Now,
I would say this, I don't remember many of the
selections I made in the fire pool. Maybe someone could

(14:01):
punch that up and see where I'm at. I'm sure
I'm near the bottom, but I did pick Houston to
win it all, and they won big yesty, though gun
Zaga made a push at the end. But uh, Houston one,
They're just so tough. You talk about bullying. I mean
it's the same kind of offense really that Saint John's has,
except Houston's able to hit the shots from outside and
Saint John's can't.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
Yeah, I mean, look, you talk about like carbon copies,
like they they all. I feel like all the teams
that are left standing all kind of live in the
same world in terms of the way they approach the game.
They are ultra physical, super competitive, very tough and feisty,
and look kind of fearless in terms of their approach.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
To me, it just shows that.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
Old school wins at a time in the nil era
where everyone is worried about kind of dancing around walking
on eggshells around their players.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
It appears to me that the coaches that.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
Are winning are the ones who never relented off their standards,
never relented off their approach, and the players are responding
to that amazing.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
You know, one of the best stories I had seen,
I think during the tournament. It has to be this
McNeese State loses to produeys today's seventy six sixty two.
But the story there was the student manager. And believe me,
this really hit home because that's basically me. I mean,
I was a student manager and I cannot believe that

(15:24):
this kid, Amir Aurura Khan came around with his boombox.
He sitting with Spike Lee in the stands. The guy's
making Bootkoo bucks and he's getting nil money. I missed
the boat. He's getting nil money, I mean coming in
there with his boombox and there's an opportunity. Now they
say that he may be leaving McNee State and going
to NC State with the coach. That's unbelievable. I mean,

(15:46):
so now this whole situation for Nil, and he's the
first student manager to get an nil name, image and
likeness deal. I do not think that when Nil came
to being they didn't think non players would get that.
So he put another wrinkle in the whole situation. I
think it's great, I really do. But this is how
foolish the people from the NCAA war when they kind

(16:08):
of put this together. They should realize that everybody out
there is kind of a salesman, and this kid's a salesman.
He sold himself and he's got it done. He's a nil.
He's on the nil store with merchandise. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (16:20):
Yeah, he's done a really good job.

Speaker 5 (16:23):
Parlane his success, making it right, making it pop, making
it happen.

Speaker 4 (16:29):
You know, it's interesting like Miunie State will Wade to coach.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
Already accepted the NC State job before the tournament started
and was able to still get his team to play.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Uh there.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
There's been a conversation about him taking his team with
him to NC State, having a ready made squad to
be able to get it done.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
We'll see if that happens. But Al has changed the landscape.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
March Madness is fun because the stories that we finally
see this guy has started to get some buzz.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
But he became like one of.

Speaker 5 (17:00):
The big stories in terms of the student manager, one
of the stories of the tournament, and look, kudos to him.
Happy for him. For being able to parlay it and
to more opportunities. That's the way to take advantage of.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
It, no doubt about that. Texas Tech beat Drake yesterday
seventy seven sixty four. But I'm my mistaken is Drake
the school that had started three Division two players that transferred.
I mean, so you talk about great coaches, you get
a guy. I mean, and maybe there isn't that much
of a difference between Division one and Division two.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Maybe there isn't.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Maybe maybe in the minds of many people there are,
But there are kids that played Division two that can
play Division one under the proper programming and maybe.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Proper coaching and the system. And that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I think it was Drake that had three guys that
went from Division two went to Drake this year and
Drake made the tournament.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
Yeah, well, I would say a few things have happened,
like when it comes to that stuff, right, the transition
has been if you're an older, more mature player, you
have an opportunity to.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Play well at the next level.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
And the more mature players are doing it, and that's
why the teams that are winning are the older teams.
That's why it'll be interesting to see how Duke fairs
and the tournament because they're one of the younger teams
in the tournament. They may have the best player in
Cooper Flag, but they still are very very young. And
we've seen that the experienced players, the older players haven't
advantaged physically and mentally just because of the reps and

(18:27):
the experience and their expertise. That's why you see these
guys like when you hear Saint John's and Rick Potino
talking about, Yeah, I'm not going to recruit high school
players this net cycle because it has been proven that
to build a program and to win, particularly in this setting,
you need guys.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
That are kind of hardened. And the only way that
your hardness through.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Experience, no doubt about that. So you got Duke Bala today,
you got floridayu Conte. Those are two goodies Kentucky. If
they played the way they did against Troy the other night,
then I got to beat Illinois. They play them today.
Michigan State and New Mexico that's a biggie too. It's
hard to believe that Patino's son is going to go
further than he did this year in New Mexico and
Arizona or Arizona, Oregon. That's a pretty big one too.
So you know it's getting better. I mean, there were

(19:07):
a couple of blowouts and not real great competitive games
in the first Thursday Friday, but they're coming back now
now the games are getting somewhat competitive. And here's the
thing right now, as the entire world and believe me,
you know, they say productivity in the office place really
decreases during the Thursday and Friday games because no one
either goes to work or they're watching games at work.
But while the world was watching basketball on Friday, Aaron

(19:29):
Rodgers was in Pittsburgh talking to the Steelers. You know,
they says that for six hours. Were you surprised to
hear about that, because you know, you even mentioned to
me that you didn't think that Mike Tomlin would want
to put up with the garbage of Aaron tom Aaron Rodgers,
I mean.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
I didn't think so.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
But then this is a team that is desperate to
advance in the playoffs. They haven't moved forward in the playoffs.
I think since twenty sixteen under Mike Tomlin. Quarterback play
has been a huge issue. Since Ben Roethlisberger left, maybe
they feel like they have the ruction environment to be
able to get Aaron Rodgers to play at a level
that will help them. The thing about it, and there's
already been some frustration, like Cam Hayward was, you know,

(20:10):
voicing his frustrations about the Aaron Rodgers delay thing and
him you know, taking his time and doing that and
kind of treating the Stillers like a second class citizen.
But right now, where the Stillers are and where Aaron
Rodgers is like, they need him, maybe even more than
he needs them, and so they have to kind of
wait in position. It's crazy to think that the Stillers

(20:32):
brand is at that point, but that's where they're at.
Can it work, Yeah, it can work, but a few
things must happen. One, Mike Tomlin has to set a
hard line in terms of the hierarchy, the pecking order,
and how things work in the locker room. Two, Aaron
Rodgers has to relent some on his offense.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
He's played in one offense.

Speaker 5 (20:51):
He likes to bring that offense wherever he goes, but
that offense is dated. Can he and Arthur Smith create
a partnership that would allow the still to have an
offense that works for everybody that remains to be seen.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
And then what is the money?

Speaker 6 (21:06):
Like?

Speaker 5 (21:07):
What is Aaron Rodgers' leadership skills? Like all of those
things because you can see a lot of things about
the previous quarterbacks that they had and Russell Wilson and
Justin Fields. You can never dispute that they were good dudes.
You didn't hear anything about their dude factor in the
locker room. Can you have that relatability in the locker
room if you're Aaron Rodgers? That is a big thing

(21:27):
for me before we even talk about like the money
and all.

Speaker 4 (21:29):
This other stuff. Does he fit the culture the environment
of the Steelers? To me, that's a million dollar question.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, but I like what you said, Like, you know,
the Stealers may need him more than he needs them.
So we'll see what happens. It's the ongoing drama will
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We got the blame game. But right now, the seventh
of April is a very very big day.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
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Speaker 2 (22:50):
Please keep politics out of it. Really, that's right around
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All right, Bucky, let's get back to this football situation
right now. We talked about Aaron Rodgers, who is the
only one in the world not watching basketball on Friday.

(23:31):
He was in Pittsburgh interviewing I guess, or they're interviewing him,
whatever it may be. But let's talk about the New
York Football Giants because they were flirting with Aaron for
a while. They missed out on Matthew Stafford. The Stafford,
you know, he used that as a crutch I guess
to stay with the La Rams. So now the Giants,
oh my goodness, they signed Jameis Winston. Not a bad
deal because when it got two years for eight mili

(23:53):
on the standards over the NFL it's kind of cheap,
it really is. But you know, the only quarterbacks they
have now are Jamis Winston than Tommy DeVito. I mean,
the only two in the roster is Well, they'll draft someone,
I'm sure, but it doesn't look good. It really doesn't
look that. They may be in worse shape than any
team in the NFL on quarterbacks, I.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
Mean right now.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
But the good thing is you don't play the season
right now. They still have an opportunity to pick up
a young quarterback in the draft. You know how the
draft is gonna fall. They may find their quarterback of
the future at three.

Speaker 4 (24:27):
Part of the.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
Reason you want to have Jameis Winston under wraps or
have a veteran quarterback under wraps, is if we put
the ball down, do we have enough to start? Jameis
Winston certainly has been a start in this league. No
matter what we think about his career, he started a
lot of games, and he would give them the veteran presence,
the guy to be great in the locker room. The
guy would be great with a young quarterback. So you

(24:48):
want to make sure that you started there and then
you kind of figure out what it looks like. But
he's had some success, but the success and the moments,
the highs have been high, the loads have been low.
But we'll see they at least have a veteran quarterback.
Take me a bridge for a young quarterback.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Okay, this came out of nowhere. This came out of
left field because you talked about the Minnesota Vikings.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Obviously, JJ McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
The number ten pick a year ago in twenty twenty four,
he's going to be at the quarterback right now and
probably be the quarterback of the future because Sam Donald
right now is with Seattle. However, now the rumors are
coming out that the Vikings have shown some interest by
aiding Ryan Tannehill. All Right, Tannehill is no kid. He's
like thirty five, thirty six years old. But I guess
you need a veteran backup in this league right now.

(25:32):
Playing seventeen games, you got to get a backup. There's
no doubt in my mind. I mean really, with JJ
McCarthy coming off with that injury, you just don't know
how he's going to be.

Speaker 3 (25:40):
I mean, he just missed the entire year.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
Yeah, So if they signed Bryan Tannehill, this is another
thing where you want a veteran presence, but someone that's
not going to threaten the young quarterback, someone who can
be a really good pro, meaning his job is not
necessarily to mentor the young guy, but he comes in
as a backup knowing your primary thing is to make
sure that the young guy is ready if you have

(26:05):
to step into play, Yes, you need to be ready,
but we need you to be a good dude in
the quarterback room. Show him how to get his plan together.
When I mean plan, how does the quarterback plan this week?
What things are we looking at on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
Saturday to get ready to play well on Sunday. Ryan Tannehill,
you've played at a pro bowl level in this league.

(26:25):
You've had success, You've been up and down, You've been
an NFL Comeback Player of the Year. If you can
give some of that guidance, some of those wisdom, some
of that wisdom, those nuggets to the young quarterback. JJ
McCarthy man, that's what we're paying you for.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Interesting, all right, I hear what you're saying. We'll keep
you an eye on that. By the way, we'll lye
for Thetirack dot Com studios and I did mention that
April seventh is a big day. It's a Monday, and
obviously that game is going to be the ninth of
that April seventh is the mess National Championship game. Okay,
but there's another thing happening on the seventh of April.
It's the House versus the NCAA settlement's final approval hearing,

(26:58):
and it's slated for that day. Okay, And I'm not
certain about this, but I'm sure you know a lot
more than I do about this. Buck. The settlements go
over for two point eight billion with a B and
back damages to athletes who could not profit from nil name, image,
and likeness before twenty twenty one. Would that be you
before twenty twenty? Are you gonna get some cash, Bucky

(27:19):
h Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
I don't think I'm gonna get any cash, but that's
a nice sentiment. What I hope doing.

Speaker 5 (27:25):
What I'm worried about is, Look, I want everyone to
get the money that they need to get. I'm worried
about the roster management. I'm worried about how it packs
athletes going forward. Football and basketball is gonna be taken
care of.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
They're going to get it.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
But the sports that I'm worried about are the Olympic sports.
I'm worried about track and field, the roster sizes where
you know, you used to have unlimited roster spots, now
they've cut.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Those dramatically down.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
I'm worried about baseball, which has always had issues when
it comes to rosters and scholarships and how many scholarships
can you give in those things. I'm worried about the
fallout that affects some sports like field hockey and lacrosse,
me AND's lacrosse and those things. They are legions of
athletes that are going to be impacted by this settlement

(28:07):
because the haves are going to take up all of
the space, and the haves are going to occupy that
and you're gonna see these cuts, these roster cuts and
these things, the elimination of the walk on program, all
of these things that are going to affect some people
who go and participate in athletics for college, for the
purity of participating beyond high school, who understand the value

(28:30):
of playing collegiate sports helps them immensely in their world after.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
They finish being an athlete.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
So I'm glad that some people are getting their money
but I'm really worried about these other participants, men and
women that are going to have their opportunities diminished because
schools are having the fun football and basketball and revenue
sharing and nil. Even though I'm saying those things need

(29:02):
to be rewarded, I worry about these other guys.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
This is an amazing situation.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Every Division one program is going to be allowed to
offer up to get this twenty point five million dollars
next year to all athletes in their athletic department. Okay,
so schools with FBS football programs have a big problem
on the hands. Really, if they give the vast majority
of that money to the football program, as they probably will,
they're going to leave their basketball teams with fewer recruiting

(29:27):
moneies and andil money to get some players there. So
non football schools, and we talked about this last week,
I remember non football schools are already plenty to take
advantage of the different position. They have an advantage. The
Big East has many of those schools in that conference
without football. To Paul Marquette Xavier, they don't have football.
That money's going to go basically to basketball, which to

(29:47):
me is a tremendous advantage.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
Yeah, I mean it's a huge advantage. It's a huge
advantage because you can't fund everything. Football is a machine
unlike any other and if you want to be good
in football and basketball, it's gonna be hard. How do
you split the money? How do you split the baby?
It's a challenge. And it's one of those challenges that

(30:10):
you talked about Bubba Cunningham and why he gets.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
The bonus where he's gonna earn the bonus next year. Yeah,
because to pull it is off.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
Look, you gotta be you gotta have effective being counters,
and you got to make sure that the money goes
to right places. It'd be interesting to see how some
of this stuff plays out, you know.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
And it's not only the fact that the schools without
football will have more money to play to pay for basketball.
Here's the situation right now. This is gonna be a war.
And I'll tell you what's gonna happen. Schools without football
programs are now gonna pull more of their resources into basketball, obviously,
and they're gonna be able to entice recruits away from.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
The power conferences.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
In other words, if I'm a basketball player at a
big time school that has football, and basketball, and more
of the money's going with the football than basketball. I
could look at a school that just has basketball, and
they could pay me more than I'm getting at this
football basketball school. That's gonna be the war over there.
That's gonna be the major problem. I don't know if
they're gonna have an edit out there saying that you

(31:07):
can only spend X amount of money on football and
or basketball. I don't know how you're ever going to
control that, But I will say this, the non football
playing schools are gonna have one heck of an advantage.
Or maybe they should rearrange the conferences, which will never happen,
that conferences only with basketball remain only with basketball, and
you can have a football playing school in that conference.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
Yeah, I mean there's so many things.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
I mean, shoot, I don't even know who the governing
bodies are, right, Like we talked about the DCAA, but
I don't even know. Like it's such a difficult situation,
and because everyone is kind of going rogue and done
their own thing what seemingly feels like the last two years. Yeah,
someone's gonna have to police this and get this together,
and someone's gonna have to kind of try and figure

(31:50):
out how to create these situations that you're referring when
it comes to the basketball, the basketball only schools beginning
to dumb they and pluck the field because they don't
have those financial obligations of football. And with so many
athletic departments when you look around the country, like regardless
of whether we talk about football being king, so many

(32:11):
of them are operating in the red will. Some schools
just decide to drop football because they can't keep up,
and then interest and push us closer to the superpower
conferences or the super conferences that we've been hearing about
sixty four teams playing four different things where it's just
football only they did with football, and then everyone else

(32:33):
is left to play basketball and some of these other sports.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
You know what I worry about the HBCU schools, the
schools like Howard University. I don't know how they're gonna
do that. They are those schools that have football and basketball.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Can they do it?

Speaker 2 (32:45):
They can they afford to have both? Now it's not
gonna be good.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
It really, I mean.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Really it's yeah, it's not gonna be good. It's not
gonna be good.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
Like look, HBCUs are already having a tough time with
the funding. The new things that are being thrown out
there regarding like the elimination of Department of Education and
some of the things that it control. Is when it
comes to the money, it's already going to be difficult.
Then when you add this in, it makes it man,
it's can be nearly impossible to field athletic teams.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
These schools HBCUs.

Speaker 5 (33:16):
Already struggling getting the minimums required to operate athletically.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Yeah, this puts them behind eight ball for sure.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
This is an unbelievable story. I said, coming into the
seven key politics out of it.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
I haven't heard this. This is crazy.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
After the West Virginia Mountaineers we left out of the
NCAA tournament, the governor, the governor of West Virginia called
it a miscarriage of justice. Don't you think you got
something a little better and bigger to do than worry
about the basketball team in West Virginia? I mean, honestly,
I mean the state of West Virginia was launching a
formal investigation into the NCAA's men's March Madness selection committee

(33:50):
process after the West Virginia Mountaineers were left out of
the bracket. This is Governor Patrick Morrissey and Attorney General J. B. Mccusky.
They announced this. I mean really, I mean, come on,
keep the poems out of it.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
No, I mean no, no, no, no, Like politics are always a
part of it, like that's no matter what, Like it's
always been a part of it, Like whenever you put
these things together, when you put military all of this
is a part of the sports landscape.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
The people like to conveniently pick and choose.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
When political or not. Politicians love the grand stand on
these things. Like he took this as an opportunity to
put his face in front of the camera and create
an issue where none exists. But that's what politicians do.
They can't wait to run out and do some of
these things, big or small, to attract attention. So he
got the attention that he wanted, even though it's a

(34:40):
case that is ultimately going to be dismissed if he
ever tries to bring.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
No doubt open and shut, no doubt about that bucket
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(35:50):
let's get it done. Bucky, what happened to the once
mighty basketball conference?

Speaker 3 (35:55):
You're acc in the NCAA's.

Speaker 4 (36:00):
Arrogance got the best of them. They thought that basketball.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
Players would continue to go to that conference because for
so long they've nominated basketball. But people are showing following
the money. The SEC made a commitment to upgrade their
basketball team because they're willing to shell our cash and
that's why the the SEC is left ont.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
It's amazing though, because we thought the SCC was a
basketball league, football league. What is it now? It was
a football league, now it's a basketball league. How did
it change?

Speaker 5 (36:30):
Yeah, it's everything. They put money to their actions. They
want to dominate every sport. It's not only basketball that
they committed. They've upgraded baseball. So when you look around,
you see all SEC teams in the top twenty five
in baseball. You look around in basketball. Look, if you
want to be good at it, you got to devote
the resources to it. The SEC has done that in
every sport.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Okay, let's talk about the Crown Tournament, which will be
at the end of the month till about April whatever,
and it's sponsored by Fox Sports. The Crown Tournament's going
to give a three hundred thousand dollars Hey Day to
the winner to the winners that they're gonna split, that
the team's gonna get that, and the kids will get that. Well,
the players and coaches eventually bypass the kind of sounds crazy,
bypass the anti double A tournament for the crown because

(37:12):
there's cash on the line.

Speaker 5 (37:15):
Now, I don't think you ever get to the point
that you bypass the NC double A tournament.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
But it's a nice gesture.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
I love it. I love hearing about it. But yeah,
I don't think you can. I don't think you were
in fringe upon March Madness. I think March Maddness is
too big of a brand.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Not only that, I think that is going to create
a situation where it's going to force maybe March man
is to pay these kids as a bonus.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Don't you think I think they all time?

Speaker 4 (37:39):
It's only amount of time at some point, it's coming. Right.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
Let's let's talk about baseball for a second. I gotta
ask the question because they took about Lebron the face
of the NBA. Who is the face of baseball? And
maybe do they even have one?

Speaker 5 (37:54):
I would say Shanaytani needs to be the face, but
I think it goes cycles. Brice Harper have a run.
Some other guys have run, but right now, yeah, that's
me showing Ay Toney. We haven't seen people do what
he's been able to do.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Let's talk about Aaron Rodgers. We mentioned him that on Friday,
he was in Pittsburgh for about six hours into the Steelers.
Are you sick of the Aaron Rodgers drama yet? I
think the NFL probably is.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
Oh I'm so tired of it, But it's going to
exist because that's what we do on our side, right
We know that if we bring his name up, it
draws listeners, viewers, clicks, So we're gonna continue doing it.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
We're gonna we're gonna ride it to the wheels fall off.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
But it is one of the things that I am
annoyed that that we have so much conversation about Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, me too.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
The nc Double A, and you mentioned this early on.
The n Cuba Tournament basically is a coaches tournaments for
the coaches. Could you name for me right now perhaps
the best three coaches in your mind that are coaching
college band skeootball today on any level. Does that have
to be Division one that they don't even have to
be in the tournament right now.

Speaker 5 (39:06):
On any level. Well, I mean we talked about two
of them earlier. I think Rick Patino, John Carler party
or in that conversation. Tom Izzo certainly deserves to be
in that conversation. But then there are a bunch of
young guys. Talk about Dusty May and the job that
he's doing. Natos isn't young, but he's done a really
good job at Alabama.

Speaker 4 (39:26):
There are a lot there are a lot of really
good coaches run around.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
Pat Kelsey at Louisville is another good coach to turn
around that program quickly. So there are a lot of
good coaches, a lot of good dudes that are getting done.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
No doubt about that. Okay, I'll leave you with this question.
UCLA lost yesterday at Tennessee and it wasn't pretty. Sixty
seven fifty eight was the final. Have we seen the
last of Mick Cronin on the UCLA bench? Rumors have it?
Maybe Indiana they they got to charge the job in
Indiana has taken that, but there was a rumor there.
But what about Villanova? They say he may be interested

(39:57):
in Villanova or they're interested in him.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Then maybe it isn't him. I don't know why he
want to leave UCLA.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
You know, you can talk about the challenges and those things,
but the brand is big. He's done a really good
job there and even though in theory his personality doesn't
really job with LA, it works.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
I think he has a nice job and a nice
house in LA.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
There we go. All right, he's the top quarterback in
the draft. We'll talk about him next right here on Fox.
All right, did Joe really get his wish? That's coming
right up? Good money, everybody. This is Fox Sports Sunday
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Speaker 3 (40:31):
Ready.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
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Speaker 4 (40:48):
NC?

Speaker 2 (40:49):
DOUBLEA in full swing right now? Big games today, Florida, Yukon,
Duke Baylor, Arizona, Oregon, Michigan State, tom Izzo, New Mexico
today today And of course what Alabama say, Mary's Maryland, Colorado.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
State, big day.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
I bet you'll be watching games all day, all night today.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
Yeah, big games.

Speaker 5 (41:11):
Look, man, you love when the tournament reaches this point
where we have Sweet sixteen on the line.

Speaker 4 (41:17):
It's the elite of the elite, the best of the best.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
Swearing off, I'm excited to see what Cooper Flag does
against Baylor Duke is Roland. They are juggernaut and just
want to see if they're gonna be able to finish
it off.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Okay, I heard Steve the saga the top of the
hour with the Sports Update. Okay, and I'm going crazy.
I gotta run this by it because this, to me
is disgusting. Yukon Women one O three to thirty four
over Arkansas State. I mean, come on, really, I mean
you talk about maybe I'm crazy, You talk about sportsmanship

(41:49):
and respect for your spell fellow coaches. How do you
do that? How do you run up a game like that?
One O three to thirty four Yukon over Arkansas State? Really?

Speaker 3 (41:59):
Come on?

Speaker 5 (42:01):
These kids that they're fine. They can handle it like
they candle it. Their college athletes, they can handle it
like you. I mean, yeah, if you're if you're a
gen Ariema, you want your team playing at a high level,
and it doesn't matter the opponent.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
It's about the standard that they've created. U kind is
a powerhouse. Uh, they are.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
Their expectation to win national titles and they have a
chance to take one again this year.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
And the only way.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
That you get your team ready to take on the
challenges that lie a head is you got to get
them to play well against whoever they're playing. And so
Arkansas State just happened to be a victim. But first
round of the tournament, we want to execute at a
high level. So I applaud them. I'm sure that's what well.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
You applaud them.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
But when I see that score, that's why in USC
didn't do much better when they had that big score
yesterday too.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
But I want to see you can lose now because
what they did. I want to see.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
Because because they hammered Arkansas State.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yes, yes, for shame, Come on, really that means that
stop the game if you have to, really.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
No, No, Like, they're fine.

Speaker 5 (43:05):
I think young people are resilient enough to be able
to bounce back from these moments.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
They'll bounced back. They're in the tournament.

Speaker 5 (43:11):
And the difference that you're seeing between the men's tournament
and the women's tournament is for all of the games
that have been made. In women's basketball, you still have
the have and the have nots, And that plays out
the early part, the early part of the tournament. That
plays out where men's basketball the parody has kind of
leveled everything out, it hasn't quite done that yet in

(43:34):
women So you continue to see some of these lopside
of scores in the first couple of rounds, but once
we get to the sweet sixteen, that's when you start
seeing the really, really, really good ball.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Well so maybe that's when I'll start watching. That's when
I'll start watching, all right, you tell about the NTA tournament.
I thought about this for a little bit, not a
long time, just for a little bit. What other sport
can keep you on your toes interested for three weeks?
I mean, the NFL does a week by week. Okay,
So my logic of my ill logic, whatever you want

(44:03):
to call it, tells me that sports really need to
take a peek at the NFL because they're like the
Kings and the NCAA. Because in our lives, I think
people have too much to do on a daily basis,
and if you have a tournament that goes for three weeks,
but they only play on the weekends. People are interested

(44:24):
can and it teases you. Baseball plays every single day.
There's no interesting. That's the way. And then the NFL
does well because they have the fantasy football because you
could do your fantasy once a week. You can't do
fantasy baseball. No one's gonna want to do it on
a daily basis, right.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
No, I mean, no one wants to do it on
a daily basis.

Speaker 5 (44:45):
But I think we saw from this, like I heard
all the complaining and all that other stuff about the
college football playoff and these teams and SMU doesn't deserve
to be in there versus Penn State, and it's not right.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
YadA, YadA, YadA YadA.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
Well, the only way you can create the football version
of marsh Maddness is to have a tournament like this.
It has been shown that we like watching playoff games.
We like watching when things have stakes a tie to.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Them, Yeah, one and done, when they'll go home. We
love that.

Speaker 4 (45:15):
Yeah, we love that.

Speaker 5 (45:17):
So you have to create more of that and put
more teams in it and sell it and market it
and those things.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
Here's the problem that you have with football.

Speaker 5 (45:30):
Playoff tournaments and bowl games don't mix because you can't.
You can't do things, so you're trying to stay one
foot into the old system while having a new system
of playoffs.

Speaker 4 (45:42):
They have playoffs at every other level, but at the top.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
The bowl games have created so much money and ratings
and revenue and all this other stuff. But from a
fans perspective, we want to see playoff games because we
live or die with the emotions that are associated with
when or go on home.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Right, And that's why when baseball has those one game
playoff games, everybody's got their tongues hanging out and they
love it because it's win.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
They'll go home and.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
There's a start and a finish the regular baseball season,
there really is. Star Yeah, they start in March, I
end in October, but there's no starting finish. If you
go to a Wednesday afternoon ball game, you're going there
for the relaxation, just to kill time and have a
couple of cold beers. That's what you do. But there's
really no start or finish there. And they stay with
the NBA, and the NBA has taken it one step

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further to irritate the fans.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
What do they do.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
They don't play their players, they're sitting.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
That's another situation, right, that is another situation.

Speaker 4 (46:39):
But speaking to.

Speaker 5 (46:42):
Your thing about playoffs and watch a building, what we like.
That's why the playing in tournament what's so good?

Speaker 4 (46:49):
Right?

Speaker 5 (46:49):
We like looking at the play in because those are
one and done, eight, nine and ten plays for the
right to play.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Eight to see if you get into the you know,
whateverever it's their formally is.

Speaker 5 (47:01):
But that works for them, and it has worked for
a long time. You want to continue to drive those
those things. I know there's been some conversation. People have
talked about the lottery and not necessarily liking the tanking,
and they've talked about, well, why not take the four
worst teams and have a round robin tournament to see

(47:24):
who gets the number one seed. Now they have to
play to win as opposed to play in the loose.
So the four teams at the end of the year,
we're gonna have a play in to see who gets
the number one seed. The winner of the tournament gets
number one. That I mean, that can compell them, Like
when we're in the the dog days of the season
and no one is paying attention, Well, that would certainly

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goneer some of our attention at the end of the season.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
They need to do something like that. I mean, that's
real creative.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
I like that. I like that a lot because the
worst tanking will be thrown out the wind. Though no
one's going to tank.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
There's no need, right, there's no need, doesn't need to
be the bottom four. But now I gotta play well
enough to win it, so I can't just be in
complete shutdown mode because I need to win some of
these games.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
I love the fact that you basically did like a
term paper this week. I mean, you're a coach or
a scout personnel man, really, TV radio star, NFL dot
com author, and you were talking about Shador Sanders, the
top twenty twenty five NFL quarterback draft pick on NFL
dot Com. And I got to ask you why, and
I have an answer, and maybe I'm wrong. I'm saying

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he's going to be the number one guy because really
and truly, there's kind of a week quarterback class coming
out this year, right.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
I mean people will say that, but I feel like
people will say that all the time. Right, I always
feel like they say that the quarterback class is so
weak and then last year I felt like they said
some of that and then they played well because I
remember all of the criticism that bo Nicks received when
he was drafted twelfth overall, and now everyone loves him
and we can't remember about how poorly they talked about him.

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Years is separate year, every years the Snowflake. We'll see
how this group plays out. Shudur Sanders is in a
class where you do have some guys that don't have
the brand that he has, so it's him and cam
Ward are.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
Viewed as one and two.

Speaker 5 (49:17):
There's been a conversation about Jackson Dart and now of
late Tyler Shutt and Jalen Milroe and Calvi McCord, but
those two guys have been separate in the part. And
over the next two weeks we're gonna see both of
those guys have their Pro day. On Monday, cam Ward
from Miami will have his Pro Day that'll be shown
shameless plug on NFL Network.

Speaker 4 (49:35):
I'll be covering that, and.

Speaker 5 (49:37):
Then on April fourth, Shudur Sanders will have his Pro Day.
And those pro days ultimately are the final exam for
two of the quarterbacks that are being celebrated as QB one,
QB two and whatever order.

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Okay, let me do this now.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Number one, we're gonna stick with shaduor Sanders because you
say you spent a few days with Sanders the big
twelve pro Days this past week. That's number one, So
we'll talk about that. But these pro to me, did
you just set up? So quarterback comes out there with
his favorite receiver, and you know you can't screw up
a pro day? Right? I mean?

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Am I right about that?

Speaker 4 (50:09):
You can?

Speaker 5 (50:10):
Teddy Bridgewater, Teddy Bridgewater didn't have a great pro day.
That was your Johanna Monziela and Teddy Bridgewater fell like
a rock thirty seconds to the Minnesota Vikings. Part of
that was due to not kind of checking off the
box on the prodad. So the thing about the pro
day is you just want to show what you got
asenuate the positives. Don't necessarily worry about the negatives, but

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just a showcase.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
The thing is one of those things like an open
book test.

Speaker 5 (50:37):
If I give you an open book test, I need
you to ace the test. It is more concerning when
you get a C or a D on an open
book test where the answers are all right there. So
if he takes care of business, it won't change anything.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
People. People will look at the film and then they'll
make a decision based on that. Guys, here, I hear gotcha,
you got me? All right? Cool, we got your book?

Speaker 6 (51:00):
Andy there?

Speaker 2 (51:03):
All right?

Speaker 5 (51:04):
Amy, I got you, I got you, I got you
that radio moment.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
But yeah, I'm good, I got you.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
I don't know what happen. I had a belch over
there or something. What happened. But you talk about the
pro day, so that that's good. So you say it's
an open book test and you got to pass it.
You can't get to see let's talk about your standers. Now,
why do you say is number one? What are the strengths?
And you wrote about this, What are the strengths that
you do standers that would make him number one?

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Number one thing? And I said this in the article.

Speaker 5 (51:33):
There's never been anyone more prepared to be a franchise
quarterback than Shadeur Sanders.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Sheer.

Speaker 5 (51:38):
Sanders grew up in the home of a look Hall
of Fame player Deon Sanders, who has been a lightning
rod of criticism. To play under the watchful lot of
the world. When you have the Sanders name on your
back to me is something that no one can replicate.
That dealing with that pressure, dealing with the noise outsiders

(52:01):
either supporting or condoning how you or condemning how you play.
All of those things matter what he's dealt with that right.
The other part of it is going to two programs,
Jackson State and Colorado, two lightly regarded programs, two programs.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
That were downtrodden when he got there.

Speaker 5 (52:18):
Immediately turned around Jackson State sixteen to zero conference record,
twenty three and three overall at Jackson State, two swack titles.
So you like the fact that quarterbacks win. People say
quarterback wins not a step, but it is because your
job is the quarterback is the.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
Lead your team to the winner circle.

Speaker 5 (52:34):
Goes to Colorado, they're one and eleven, they go four
and eight, and then they finish with nine wins this season,
go to a bowl game.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
So he certainly is an instrumental change.

Speaker 5 (52:43):
People say, well, he had the best team with him
in those situations yet, but he didn't have the most
talented teams. Yes, yeah, Travis Hunter on the outside, he
had some playmakers, but people talk about that offensive line
not being up to par. Took a ton of sacks
because of the offensive line played.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
In a pro style offense.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
Underpass from a former NFL head coach, a guy with
ties in this league to put in a system that
is very much like the systems that are routinely used
in the NFL. Crushes it with that touch, timing, anticipation
he throws with people to talk about, Oh, he doesn't
have the biggest arm.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
He lacks this. He doesn't have a pop gun arm.

Speaker 5 (53:21):
His arm is stronger than Brock Purdy's arm, and Brock
perties has success in this league. This game is not
about being able to throw fast balls. This game is
about painting the strike zone consistently, which is what he does.
He is the classic drop back passer that has played
successfully in the league for the last fifty years. That's undeniable.
He is someone who understands the moment. He understands how

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to play well under pressure. The things where he has
to work on his timing. Sometimes he holds onto the
ball too long because he's big play honting. He takes
sacks and he has to quicken his clock and get
the ball out of his hands so he can stay
on time.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
But when you really look at him and watch him play.

Speaker 5 (54:04):
He stays on schedule when it's time to stay on schedule,
meaning in the game's biggest moments, he delivers time after
time on time. He's not the best athlete. Okay, well,
the majority of quarterbacks in the NFL are not the
greatest athletes. We've gotten to this point where we now
have fallen in love with athleticism. Five years ago, we
didn't want athletic quarterbacks. We weren't in love with the

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guys that can run around. You had to be able
to deal from the pocket. Sanders deals primarily from the pocket.
So stylistically, his game works because that's what traditionally.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
Has worked in the league.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
Now it just comes down to who is that coach,
who's the offensive coordinator, How's he going to function outside
of the daddy ball structure that some will talk about
in Colorado. To me, I think it's a no brainer.
I think he's going to be a star in this league.
I think in the right situation, he's gonna have a
lot of success. And I would expect us to revisit
the conversation in a year or two and say, man,

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we're really wrong on shud Der Sanders, because he did
have all those things that we look for in a
franchise quarterback.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Let me go back to the weaknesses, because everybody has
a weakness, no matter what business you are. And then
what you and the weakness you ways say he lacks
arm strength or arm talent and athleticism, Okay, limited athleticism,
He still say he's gonna be the number one pickt
he probably will be. The point I want to throw
out there is that how many quarterbacks really and truly
have athleticism. The only one that comes to mind to

(55:27):
me is Lamar Jackson. Matthew Stafford doesn't have athleticism. You know,
back in the day, I probably could beat him in
a fifty yard running Really. I mean I don't think
Matthew Stafford's a great I mean he's a great quarterback.
He's got great arm strength. I don't think he's great athleticism.
Am I correct on that?

Speaker 4 (55:44):
Well?

Speaker 5 (55:44):
I think it was different, right because I think what
people are talking about when it comes to athleticism is
people that have become fascinated with the Lamar Jackson slash
Josh Allen athleticism that you're seeing, meaning, can they execute
quarterback design runs, can they make impromptu plays and scramble
outside of the structure of the offense.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
Pat Mahomes does it. We see all of these other things.

Speaker 5 (56:07):
However, athleticism comes in many forms, because there's athleticism that
you must have within the pocket. Drew Reis which should
be considered a great athlete. He was a junior level
tennis player and he could move around within the pocket. Sure,
Dure Sanders can operate within the pocket. He can move

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around within the pocket. Is he going to scramble and
go make plays and have twenty five and thirty yard runs.
That's not really his jam. You know, he can move
and he'll escape when he needs to. But no, he's
not an A plus athlete. I would say his athleticism
with rate right around C plus B minus. You know,
it's good enough to survive in the pocket. He's not

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a statue in the pocket. He can move around enough
to succeed. You talk about Matthew Stafford and those things,
He's not in that category because he doesn't have the
arm talent. But yeah, Matthew Stafford has survived in this league.
Kirk Cousins has survived in this league by purty surviving
in the league, and when you don't have one superpower,

(57:13):
then you must be great with something else.

Speaker 4 (57:15):
You must have another superpower that can compensate for it.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
For me, I would say that's his processing speed, his
diagnostic ability, his high football IQ when it comes to
managing the game. That allows you to play faster, so
you don't have to rely on your physical gifts.

Speaker 4 (57:30):
You rely on your mental acumen to be able to succeed.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
All right, So you mentioned all those factors, and I
agree with you. He's going to probably be the number
one quarterback pick.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
But you say, I don't know if he's gonna be
number one.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
I think he will. I think he will, Okay, dependent
upon the actual team that thinks he might be the
best fit. And you mentioned a couple of teams over here.
Number one, he'll be gone. Is he the LA Rams?

Speaker 4 (57:52):
They picked?

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Number twenty six, he'll be gone by then. So he's
not going to the Rams, and he's not going to
the New Orleans Saints. Number nine, he'll be gone by
number nine. Agreed.

Speaker 4 (57:59):
Hold on, No, I don't know. I don't know. Here's
why I say this.

Speaker 5 (58:03):
Here's why I say this, right, because we hear all
of the commotion about his personality and how he feels
or whatever.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
When we look at quarterback Alley, right, quarterback Alley is
first three picks, Tennessee, Cleveland, New York. They all need quarterbacks,
but maybe they don't view him. He's not their type
of hype.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
Six. Las Vegas Raiders when and got Geno Smith, so
maybe they don't go there.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
Jets at seven they went and got Justin Fields, so
maybe they don't go there.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
Now you're at the Saints.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
Do the Saints really need one? They got Derek Carr
Kellen Moore. Does you want to sign up for that?
If he gets outside the top ten, there is a
long list of teams that don't need a quarterback before
another team pops up, So we can talk about Pittsburgh
at twenty one. Then you got the Rams down there.
So that's why I say like, if he falls out the.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
Top ten, it could be a long drop for Sanders.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
And if we talk about ideal fits things, the La
Rams would be absolutely perfect for.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Him because of Sean McVay.

Speaker 5 (59:06):
Sean McVay, the city doesn't mind his personality because you
got to remember La Man, it's about stars and marketability
and those things.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
It's Hollywood.

Speaker 5 (59:17):
His personality, how his brash persona that works in La.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
So it works in New York.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
He'd be great for the Giants.

Speaker 5 (59:26):
It works in there. Like but the autditional old school thing.
But yeah, like he can handle that. So to me, look,
I think he certainly can go there. But I'm not
just assuming that he's gonna be done by top ten,
even though I grate him as a top ten talent.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Everybody may not see it like that.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
But you did think that he'd be a good fit
with Cleveland the number two pickover roll with the Browns
because of Kevin Stefanski, And tell me why.

Speaker 4 (59:53):
The reason why? And no one is really talking about this.

Speaker 5 (59:56):
Kevin Stefanski was a quarterback coach for the Minnesota Vikings
when Pat Sherman was the offensive coordinator. I would just
have to believe that Pat Sherman, the offensive coordinator of
the Colorado Buffalos, has certainly had some conversations with Kevin
Stefanski on what Srdur Sanders is as a quarterback, as
a leader, how he processes, what system works for him,

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what things in the playbook, because I'm sure they share
similar playbooks, what things in the playbook would work for
Sanders That's why to me it would work. And then
when you think about Kevin Stefanski's success and the type
of quarterbacks yet Kirk Cousins in Minnesota, you think about
the best success that he's had in Cleveland, Baker Mayfield,
who might be comparable athletically to Shrdur Sanders, but through

(01:00:42):
in the pocket, Joe Flacco, Jameis Winston, when you've seen
that offense really take off as those traditional pocket passers
that have done it, Shardur Sanders is more like them
than like Deshaun Watson, which is why I believe it
will work in Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Interesting, Okay, I hope he doesn't go Cleveland, and I'll
tell you why. I mean, for his sake, he should
because it'd be more money. He'd be a number two pick.
But he'll be in the same division with the Cincinnati
Bengals and put some heat on the Bengals. But then again,
on the other side of the coin, maybe I wouldn't
mind them going to Cleveland because I'll see him play twice.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
So I don't know, but I.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Think there's a good chance he goes to the Giants,
and the Giants I'd love to see him play in
New York. He'd be king in New York. He really would.
He might be better served than New York for his career
than in LA because there's too much competition in LA
with the Dodgers, the Lakers, the Clippers, everybody else. I
think in New York with the down trodden Jets, and

(01:01:38):
what he could do to help the Giants be somewhat revervent.
Come on, I mean, the Giants have been down and
out so long, especially what they did last year with
Sakwan Barkley. I think he'd be great in New York
with the Giants.

Speaker 5 (01:01:50):
So the only thing that concerns me about New York
would be Brian da Ball and maybe Joe Shane being
on the hot seat. So if it doesn't go well
right away, say they remove those guys from the equation
and now you have a new coaching staff, new front office,
everyone coming in.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
That's a lot of change for a young quarterback.

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
That would be the cern, and I guess you could
have the same concern in Cleveland. The only time that
you wouldn't have that concern would be the Tennessee Titans,
not because of Brian Callahan's status, but because of the
new general manager comes in you got a president football lop,
Chad Brinker, who's there.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
Those guys are going to be there.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
So if they make the commitment to make him the pick,
he's going to be there and it's going to work.
I'm gonna say this because I don't assume, because everyone
is assumed that cam Ward is going to the Tennessee Titans.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
That's been the ward of the street forever and ever.
But I'll say this.

Speaker 5 (01:02:46):
Brian Callahan in January compares Shader Sanders to Joe Burrow.
He talked about Joe Burrow's ability to throw with touch,
timing and anticipation and how those guys and he included
Shoulder because it was a direct comparison. Those guys win
because of their ability to throw guys open and to anticipate.

(01:03:07):
And there's a place in this league for those kind
of players to excel at a high level in the
right offense. And that quote and that thing has been dismissed.
But coaches are not typically savvy guys that set up
smoke screens. I believe him when he says that. When
Callahan says that, I take him at his word. And

(01:03:28):
we've seen the level of success that Joe Burrows had.
People don't want to make that comparison. But when you
look at how Joe Burrow plays and how Shadur plays,
they're more alike than different. That is why I still
have that thought in my head. Le Brian Callahan certainly
saw something in Sheder Sanders that made him say that
and make that direct comparison.

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success and instant access to our Fox Sports Radio videos
on YouTube. Now you mentioned Shadeer Sanders, Shudeer Sanders, and
of course Joe Burrow. Let's talk about Joe Burrow, because
I want to know if Joe Burrow really out what
he wanted. The sonning of Jamar Chase and t Higgins.
Just the other day, it looks like Chase reportedly he's
gonna get a four year deal like one hundred and

(01:05:07):
sixty one million. Higgins gets a four year deal fo
one hundred and fifteen million, a lot of money he
needed to the scene going into that team's salary cap
just for two receivers, no matter how good these guys are.
And I'm going to say this that generally, and maybe
I'm all face here, and I love the fact that
the Bengals stepped up and did this. Maybe he was
pressure from Burrow or pressure from the fan base, I

(01:05:28):
don't know. But franchises that build too heavy on our
fence at the expense of the other positions don't usually
win Super Bowls.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:05:37):
You agree, I disagree, and I disagree because to me,
this is the blueprint that the Indianapolis coast use so
well during the paid Manning era, where they had a
franchise quarterback and elite quarterback in Peyton Manning, they made
sure that they took care of the marquee positions on
our offense to give him what he needs. If you
go back and think about the coast, they always had

(01:05:59):
Edrin James, they had Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, they had
a tie end in Dallas Clark. They would invest in
first round offensive tackles and the offense was loaded. And
their point was, we want to make sure that we
load up on offense so we can put points on
the board. Then on defense, we only invest in two positions,
well really one position that's pass rushers, and so Robert
Mathis and Dwight Frenny were big investments.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
They paid them.

Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
Everybody else was a draft and developed product on that
side of the ball. So it required you to use
a simplistic system Tony Dungee's Tampa two to be able
to get young guys on the field to support an
offense that always gave you the lead, which allowed the
defense to play against teams that were chasing points, which
is why the pass rushers were critical. Now for the Bengals,

(01:06:44):
you look at it, and I believe success least breadcrumbs
and clues follow it. So their defensive coordinator is Al Goldon.
Al Golden comes from where Notre Dame. Notre Dame is
at the collegiate level, So what.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
Does that enable him to do.

Speaker 5 (01:06:58):
It enables them to relate to younger player so I
can put them in a position schematically to play faster.
So none of these things were just coincidental. It was
all part of a bigger plan. How are we going
to build a Super Bowl champion by paying these two
guys on the perimeter with Joe Burrow, Well, we can
go younger on defense. We got to coordinate who understands

(01:07:19):
how to get young guys ready to play. That's why
to me, it works out in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Okay, I understand that the logic of the Bengals right now,
they're not going to beat you defensively, They're gonna win
games like thirty five thirty one.

Speaker 3 (01:07:30):
They're just outscoring. They'll shoot you in shootouts.

Speaker 5 (01:07:34):
Uh yeah, I mean that's certainly a big part of
the process that they want.

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
They want to win by putting points on the board.

Speaker 5 (01:07:40):
It puts pressure now on Zach Taylor and that offense.
Every week, Man, the magic numbers thirty. We need to
see thirty on the board. If you do not get
thirty on the board, it's an offensive failure. That's the
kind of pressure that you put on Joe Burrow, T Higgins,
Jamar Chase. You guys can't have a week off. There
can't be a bad win on offense. Defensively, we're gonna

(01:08:02):
have some struggles, but the money's on offense. That is
why if you're a Bengals fan, every week you're looking
at the box score. Did Joe Burrow have over three
hundred yards? Did Jamar Chase and T Higgins have an
impact on the passing game?

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
An impact on the game, And.

Speaker 5 (01:08:16):
Are the Bengals winning because of their offense, not necessarily
their defense.

Speaker 4 (01:08:20):
That's how you have to check off the boxes.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
I hear what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
Okay, Now the media is claiming, and maybe they're right
in this. I don't know that the reason why Jamar
Chase and T Higgins was signed is because that Joe
Burrow forced the hands of the Bengals management to do that.
Bengals manager, they were in a tough spot. Obviously, Joe
Burrow was in a lot of public campaigning really to
pressure the ownership to do that, and they did it.

(01:08:45):
But I don't think. I don't think Joe Burrow really
he said what he had to say, and obviously he
wanted these guys there because they're a vital part of
his offense. But I don't think the Bengals did it
because of Joe Burrow and what Joe Burrow did. Am
I right on that or wrong?

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
I think Joe Burr had a lot of influence. Really,
he had a lot of influence franchise quarterback.

Speaker 5 (01:09:05):
Franchise quarterback typically gets what he wants, and he was
very adamant about what he wanted. And I commend him
because you heard Jamar Chase and Higgins both say, if
he doesn't advocate.

Speaker 4 (01:09:17):
For us like that, I don't know if these deals
get done.

Speaker 5 (01:09:19):
He advocated for him, talked about the importance of having
both of them there. They paid both of them handsomely,
and that doesn't happen if Joe Burrow doesn't push the
envelope a little bit and ride for his guys. To me,
that's great leadership. Moreover, that's great connectivity between Joe Burrow

(01:09:41):
and wide receiver one and two or wide receiver one
A and one B, whatever you want to call them.

Speaker 4 (01:09:47):
It's significant. Though.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Well, look, I would say this, What separates good teams
and great teams in my mind is that those great
teams could beat you in so many different ways. The
only way Bengals they're gonna beat other teams next year
is by scoring a lot of points. And maybe I'm
way off base on that, but hey, you look at
the Philadelphia Eagles. They could beat you in so many
different ways. That's just the way they are. The Philadelphia Eagles.

(01:10:11):
They're very talented both defensively and offensively. And look on
the defensive side of the Cincinnati Bengals. Look, they had
defensive star Troy Hendrickson last year, but the Bengals didn't
allow the seventh most points a game and the third
highest red zone touchdown rate last year, and that was
with Troy Hendrickson playing like I hate. They would compare
it though, playing like Reggie White, and they couldn't win.

(01:10:32):
They had three guys that were like All stars last
year way before you know, Hendrickson, Higgins who was injured
a lot, Jamar Chase and Borrow and they still didn't
make the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (01:10:43):
Yeah, but they were coming all that game busses down
the end, you know, and we can talk about it. Defensively,
they weren't up to snuff, but they made some moves
in recent years where the guys they drafted didn't pan out.
You know, they were going to replace all the guys
in the back end, the secondary, right, von Bel and
Jesse Bates, and they won.

Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
That was a big loss. Draft Jesse Bates is a
big loss.

Speaker 5 (01:11:06):
Drafted some young guys didn't work out, wanted to move
on at the corner.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
Drafted some guys haven't worked out.

Speaker 5 (01:11:12):
The pressure now is not only on defensive coordinator, but
it's on the front office scouting staff. They got to
make sure they get the right people to replace me
if we're gonna be a draft and developed team, Well
we got a draft will and then the coaching staff
got to develop.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
Well, no doubt about that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
So now we talk about the NFL. Is that time
of the year where they have the rule changes, and
one of the rules right now, they're kind of pushing us.
I guess it was thought about the Green Bay Packers.
They're going after the tush push, and the proposal was
this way to prohibit an offensive player from pushing a
teammate who was lined up directly behind the snapper and
receives a snap immediately at the snap. Okay, and the

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Packers say the reason they want to change because.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Player safety ball. I don't believe it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
They're saying that because they can't get it done and
a lot of teams can't stop it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
I hate I would.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Hate to see the tush push basically go by the boards.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
I hope it doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
And look that the Eagles have a down pad pretty good,
but they got those big brutes on the offensive line
to get it done. Three hundred plus guys that I
was six foot eight. I mean, that's why the touch
push works in Philadelphia and other teams can't do it.

Speaker 5 (01:12:19):
Yeah, I mean they do have those big guys. They
are uniquely qualified to be able to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:25):
And it's.

Speaker 5 (01:12:28):
Look, man, I hate this when Green Bay does it.
I hate when people always look for the easy way out.
You can't always go runn into the officials and those things.
And to me, that's what they're doing. They're running to
the officials trying to find a solution as opposed to man,
you gotta play better, you gotta figure it out. You
got to figure out way to stop it. Of watching
commanders stop it a few times, I've seen other teams
stop it a few times.

Speaker 4 (01:12:49):
You got to figure out a way to stop it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
Right, And you're close to the NFL. You work in
the NFL. Do you see it happen. Do you see
the toush push going away?

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
I don't, you know, I don't look.

Speaker 5 (01:13:00):
I think other teams, if everyone could do it, they
would do it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
The Philadelphia Eagles just do it better than anybody else.
And no one else does it.

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
We've seen other teams try to do their variations of it.
No one else has mastered the art of the quarterbacks
neat like the Philadelphia Eagles. To me, they deserve to
have that advantage because they created that advantage through their
coaching and development and those things.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
And you don't like it, stop it, Yeah, exactly right.
What about the defensive holding and illegal contact penalties? Now?

Speaker 3 (01:13:35):
As it stands?

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
Right now, five yards in an automatic first down or
reward to the offense when defensive holding or illegal contact
is called. The Detroit Lions want to change that. What's
the reason why competitive equality and equity? Current penalties enforcement
is too punitive for the defense? I mean, what explain
that way to me?

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
Well, I mean, like, here's the thing that's frustrating to me.

Speaker 5 (01:13:57):
Right, So, how fen have you watched the game and
then you see a team just throw the ball up
and they get a penalty, and so it's an automatic
first down way down the field and changes the impact
of the game. I think pass interference, defensive holding, illegal contact,
all of those things, like you're just giving away first downs.
And so I think there's a way to make it

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different because then everyone says, well, if you only make
it a fifteen yard penalty, you can get the hugging
and mugging that you see in college.

Speaker 4 (01:14:24):
Well, I look at college games. I don't see those
guys committing egregious pass interference penalties.

Speaker 5 (01:14:30):
You know, I mean, like there's a way to do it,
but you have taken all of the advantages away from
the defense. You've just tilted the playing field to the
offensive players. They have everything, they initiate contact, they get it,
particularly on the outside with wide receivers and the physicality
that they play with. You just make it really really
difficult to defend. And I know it's a league where

(01:14:54):
we won't scoring in those things, but you got to
give the defense something.

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
Every rule that.

Speaker 5 (01:15:00):
That has been implemented has always been in favor of
the offense. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
One points to.

Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
Player ball every now and yeah, just just just a
little ball.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
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Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
I think we need a ruling on this.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Yay or nay.

Speaker 6 (01:16:26):
That's right, gentlemen, in his time for yay or nay.
So I say, let's play on this fabulous Sunday. All right,
I'm kind of done with the other puns here, but
you get the gist of it. It's yeah, your nay guys.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Let's start us off.

Speaker 6 (01:16:39):
Yea yay, all right, So first one here for you guys,
So eliminate the push push, yay or nay. Andy Furman,
you go first, A big time nay.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
And you know why those teams at the Green Bay
Packers and others out there that want.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
To see it go away, just stop it. Stop it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
If you can't stop it, don't say you want it
to go away. It's a nay, nay, nay.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
Look I'm with him, it's a nay.

Speaker 5 (01:17:08):
Like we need to continue and figure out a way
to stop it, figure out a way to defend it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
So I just want to let you know one thing
before we continue. I'm a little down. I'm a little down, tried.
I'm depressed. Do you know Bucky Brooks in the Fox
Sports Radio Hosts and in the Fox Sports Radio Bracket Challenge,
I'm in the basement. I'm at the last place. However,
close to Dan, I'm very close to Dan Patrick. He's real.

(01:17:33):
He's just a shade above me. But I'm last right now.
So today I'm hoping that Duke loses the Baylor because
I don't knock everybody out.

Speaker 4 (01:17:43):
Who did you have? Who are you picking? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
I picked I think Grand Valley Stay, I picked him,
I picked I picked all the underdoor. I just looked
for upsets all the way through. I did. Oh my god,
he really is I picked Drake, Dreg, Grand Valley, you
name it. I think I'm pickles them too. I mean
I think I picked them all. I picked Yale, I
just like Yale. I don't know why, and.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
Why do you do this? Csel, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:18:11):
I'm with a nay on this one. All right, well
speak well, speaking of college, we're gonna go to football
in this one. Oh, actually it's a little bit about
So NCAA football and basketball coaches should know should no
longer have buyout clauses?

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
Yay or nay? Bucky Brooks, Oh.

Speaker 5 (01:18:29):
They absolutely should. No, they should have buyout clauses. You
got to tie them to it. If if players are
getting criticized for moving around, we got to have the
bioclause to make it challenging for coaches to move to
move around.

Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
So, yes, bioclauses are necessary.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
I don't think they're necessary because I think of what
it does. It holds up schools. I want to get
rid of a coach because they don't have the money
to buy them out. That's the problem. Look, I have
no problem with a coach jumping from school to school.
West Virginia, we got their coach left. They want to
anything on I get it. It's okay you want to
better yourself to make more money. But to lock a school,
to hold a school ransom or against the wall like that,

(01:19:04):
it's not right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:05):
I don't think it's right.

Speaker 4 (01:19:08):
All right, guys, we're.

Speaker 6 (01:19:09):
Gonna pivot to baseball for this one and this one
near and dear to my heart. The LA Dodgers open
their season in Tokyo. And if you lived anywhere anywhere,
you know, in the US, well you never really kind
of knew because it was in It was great for Japan,
but not so much here except for maybe the people
in LA. I E me over here in La here.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
So yeah, your nay, Andy Furman.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
You know, it's kind of a shame that Major League
Baseball for their opening day that couldn't even do it
on our own turf.

Speaker 3 (01:19:38):
To how to go to Japan?

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
To do them because they knew they couldn't compete with
the NCAA tournament that can't compete the World Series with
the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
It's amazing. It's sad, it really is sad.

Speaker 4 (01:19:48):
Yay, No, I'm okay with it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:51):
Like you're trying to grow to the international presidents of
the game. The Times are the best team. A lot
of the stars are international. Take those stars so they can.

Speaker 4 (01:19:59):
Even expand it global reach even more. Some with it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Oh they like that? All right, We're gonna tell you
if your team was a winner, that and so much
more where I'm Fox Sports Sunday coming up right here next.

Speaker 3 (01:20:16):
Oh was your team a winner?

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
By the way, we're not talking basketball here. We'll get
that in just about a minute. Good morning, everybody. This
is Andy Furman. He's Bucky Brooks. We have Fox Sports
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Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Bucky, We're rocking and rolling right now, and I wanted
to throw something idea. If I can not throw, I've
actually talked to you about this. I would never throw
anything to you, Bucky, I really would never. We talked
about some of the changes in the NFL. We talked
about the Tush push, but this is a big one.
This is a good one. Changes in the playoff seating,
and this is a proposed the Detroit Lions another proposal

(01:21:03):
each conferences of four division winners would still make the postseason. However,
rather than the four teams getting the top four seeds,
the seedings will be determined by which of the seven
playoff teams had the best record. Now, the Vikings, if
you remember last year, had a fourteen to three record,
but they were given the nfceeds number five seed after
the Lions won the NFC North with a fifteen to

(01:21:24):
two record. Under the proposed seeding format, Minnesota would have
been the NFL's number three seed.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
I like that. I think that's good.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
I really do. I think it's a good deal. I
want to see the twos per stay, but honestly, I'd
like to see this one come in.

Speaker 5 (01:21:38):
No, I think you have to reward division champs. Otherwise,
why like, why have division champions? Why not just lump
in the top, lump in everyone in one big group,
you know, one to sixteen, and then just play it out.
If we're not going to have an incentive for winning
the division, then why have divisions? So to me, the
incentive to win the division is to have an opportunity

(01:22:00):
to have a home game. If you don't win your division,
you shouldn't have a home game. So there has to
be levels to it. And I know sometimes it doesn't
work out the way that you want to work out.
You can have a great record not win the division,
but oh well, life is hard, like so I don't
like this rule.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
Well, but you have a better record than a division winner.
Are you're not getting any sort of reward whatsoever.

Speaker 5 (01:22:24):
Well, you're in the playoffs. Your reward is being able
to play in the playoffs. Like, that's it. But the
division champion should get the right to have a home
game because you're the champ. The other guys a wildcard team.
Wildcard team shouldn't have home games. You're a wildcard. You
have to earn it on the tough road. If you

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won your division, you would get that. So regardless of
what you know. Detroit won fifteen sixteen games in Minnesota.
Find a way to be Detroit. That's just how it
has to go. And if you're good enough to.

Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
Win, then you'll be able to find a way to
win on the rope.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
You know, we talk about these rule changes. The NFL
is going to vote on the proposed changes for the
rules at the annual meeting, and that's gonna be like
on April second, I believe. So how does that work?
I mean, if in fact Detroit wants this changed? I mean,
do they get to vote. Every team has a vote,
so obviously Detroit's going to vote for this, so they
would to need like a seventy five percent vote. How
does it work?

Speaker 5 (01:23:22):
I mean, I think you have to get to I
think you have to get twenty four votes to pass the.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
Twenty four to thirty two, which is seventy five percent.

Speaker 5 (01:23:30):
Yeah, yeah, I think you have to get twenty four
votes to pass. So you have to have everyone on
board with the changes, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:23:38):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:23:39):
The funny thing to me is ownership has a lot
to say. And I find it funny that ownership has
a lot to say because ownership doesn't.

Speaker 4 (01:23:45):
Play so what do they know about the game? But
it is what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
But you're right about that. But but who should get
to vote?

Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
Then?

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
If it's not ownership, who who do the vote?

Speaker 4 (01:23:54):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:23:55):
Like can we do general managers or the people that
are a little closer tied to ball than the owners?

Speaker 4 (01:24:01):
Like those guys don't know anything.

Speaker 5 (01:24:03):
They canna vote on the touch first, they can vote
on they vote on all these rules that they don't
know anything really about. It's it's just a weird. It's
just a weird thing for me. Yeah, it's a weird
thing that they are the ones.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
That well, they have the keystead of castle. That's what
it is. They have the keystad of castle. The owners,
that's what they do.

Speaker 4 (01:24:21):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
NCAA basketball taking center stage today again? Whatsoever? And I
had the question out there and I was hoping somebody
would at least, you know, put it on X give
us a holler about that. How popular would the NCAA
basketball tournament be without brackets? Okay, well, with get this,
how about the lower to about schedule changes? And with
like the NFL with the rule changes, how about the

(01:24:42):
lower seedings hosting the games not having games at neutral sites?
The lower seeds host the games in the Anti DOUAA
tournament never happen. I don't think because you take a
place like Duke, they only hold about seventy five hundred
and their arena. They want to have any these big
time arenas to get some bucks and big crowds.

Speaker 4 (01:25:01):
Right, yeah, it's money, it's all money.

Speaker 5 (01:25:04):
That wouldn't be fair if you say the lower seeds
hosting a Yeah, no, that's home that's home field advantage.

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
Why we get the lesser team.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Well with the division championship, you know, sorry, get the
record win you know.

Speaker 4 (01:25:19):
Yeah, but you're the lower seed, if you're the team
you mean you mean the number one seed would get
it right, lower up? Okay, yeah, okay, okay, Florida is
playing No, I get that. Okay, yeah yeah Florida. Well yeah, yeah, no, no,
I'm good.

Speaker 5 (01:25:34):
Yeah, if you're if you're the team with if you're
the team that has the better seeding, yeah you should.

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
Get the home game, not the whatever. Okay, I get
what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (01:25:42):
I was confused because I was thinking lower seed, like
the fourteen seed would get the thing over the three seed.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
I was like, no, we shouldn't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:50):
But now like today Illinois playing Kentucky. Illinois is six
seat Kentucky's a three seed game would be in Lexington, Okay.
And I've always said that I try to beat somewhat
of an app kid and a fan.

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
For the fans, what do I mean by that?

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
You're paying big money for season tickets, you follow the team,
Why should you make I saw those fans yesterday in Milwaukee.
Why should Saint John's fans have to travel to Milwaukee
to see their team play when they pay big bucks
to watch them play at home all year long? And
then you're penalized. Really if you want to see him
play and follow them to have to go on the road.

(01:26:24):
I don't think it's fair.

Speaker 5 (01:26:26):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it don't never happen. Though, No,
it won't happen because it's too much money. You get
too much money afore, right, and because we can get
everybody there. Also, think about all the different travel right,
because if we do those things, well, now I win.
Now one team has to travel to me as opposed
to being in a neutral site where we had the

(01:26:47):
round robin for the whole weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
Yeah, logistically it makes more sense.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
Right I mean? But still in all like Kentucky's playing
in Illinois, and obviously a lot of blue in the
stands today, But after that Kentucky game, the fans empty out.
That's the way I used to be like that for
the SEC Tournament. When the SEC Tournament was at Atlanta,
you know, eighty percent of the crowd was Kentucky feet.
But they travel, they travel well, they really do. I
don't think any other team in America travels as good

(01:27:16):
as Kentucky. I really don't in any sport. It's just
the way they are. Great fans.

Speaker 4 (01:27:21):
Yeah, yeah, they travel.

Speaker 2 (01:27:24):
I got a personal question to ask you, okay, and
I know you're right. He'd give me the honest answer.
I could handle it. I got broad shoulders. I won't cry,
I promise I will not do that. But if you
had a perfect round in the brackets, and obviously if
you didn't do that well in the brackets, which I
did not. Right now, I'm in last place all alone.

(01:27:46):
Dan Patrick's ahead of me that he's got twenty eight points.
I got twenty five points. I'm buried in the cellar. Okay,
So if you're buried in the cellar, does that make
you stupid? Unlucky? If you win it. Are you smart?
What does that mean that now I'm last? I am
last in the practice. If everybody in Fox Sports Radio,

(01:28:08):
I have the distinction to be least at least. You know,
people know two people, the winner and the loser. Right,
So I'm stop it. I don't want to hear that. Okay,
I can handle it, okay, because I'm throwing out there
like I bet grand Canyon, I bet Yale, I bet
all these schools McNeice I had. But still, what does
that make me? Just unlucky or a fool or a stupid.

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
And like how.

Speaker 5 (01:28:36):
Just like like just I just don't like some of
the upsets that you may have.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
It's close, the points are real close. Because I got
twenty five points. Dan Patrick's got twenty eight, so that
makes me feel pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:28:49):
Really. But I'll tell you what I was. I just
I tell you why I bet I had Akron.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
I took Akron because I'm betting with my heart and
I on my head, right, I took Akron. I think
I took Vanderbilt.

Speaker 4 (01:29:02):
So I can't call you. I can't call you unlucky,
so we.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
Have to have you call me stupid. It's okay, I
can't call.

Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
You unlucky, because unlucky would be you took a bunch
of top season they just played back. But you're just
taking these random long shots. Yes, yes, I mean yeah,
but like the upsets typically come in what five and twelve?

Speaker 4 (01:29:25):
We know that's when it traditionally happens, six and eleven?
He saw. But you can't pick.

Speaker 5 (01:29:33):
I mean, well, I guess you can't pick two and fifteen,
but the odds are not.

Speaker 3 (01:29:37):
Against I did pick.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
I picked Xavier to be a little Illinois. You know,
I just can I tell you. I just I didn't
do well. All right, it happens, okay, So but you
didn't tell me. I mean, I'm I stupid. You could
I could handle it.

Speaker 4 (01:29:51):
Stupid. I mean, I can't call you stupid. I'm gonna
do like Rick Patino.

Speaker 5 (01:29:55):
I'll never throw one of my players under the bus.
But if I eliminate, if I eminate unlucky, you're left
with the other word. Oh so thanks, So so I
just have to have everyone take the context clues and
figure it out like Rick Patino did.

Speaker 4 (01:30:11):
He didn't say, but he said without saying. So that's
all I'm gonna say.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:17):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
I'm reading between the lines.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
It's okay, let's talk about actual winners and losers. And
I'm not talking about the NCAA tournament right now, thank you. Okay.
I'll talk at the NFL free agency winners and losers, okay,
And I'm going to throw it a couple of winners.
You tell me at least if I'm right on this,
if I'm stupid on this one, I think that, really
and truly, the Minnesota Vikings are right there. Minnesota Vikings

(01:30:39):
right there. They spent almost two hundred and fifty million
dollars in free agency, and a couple of things that
they did that made them look real good and put
them right near the top.

Speaker 4 (01:30:47):
To me.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
They signed defensive tackle Jonathan Allen, okay, and they re
signed running back Aaron Jones for two years. I think
that right now, I think the Vikings were right there.
If not that one of the best teams, one of
the better teams in free agency. I consider them a winner,
all right.

Speaker 4 (01:31:02):
Agreed, Yeah, I'm with it. They made some nice moves.
They upgraded the defense to help Brian Flores, So I
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
Okay, I'm gonna give you another winner, and again, you
know I can handle it. If you say, I'm out
of my mind. I say the Pittsburgh Steelers with wide
receive a DK Metcalf, they're a winner right now. They
got to get a solid quarterback to get in the football,
But right now, two time Pro Bowl Wide receive a
DK Metcalf is a Pittsburgh Steeler. In my mind, that
makes the Steelers winners in the free agency go around.

Speaker 5 (01:31:36):
I can't say, I can't say, getta go thumbs down.

Speaker 4 (01:31:41):
It is a gladiated big thumbs down.

Speaker 5 (01:31:44):
DK Mtcalf is great, But if you have no one
that can get them the ball, what's the point. You
just got a track athlete out there. Thirty million dollars
for DK Metcalf. It's a lot of money. So then
you have two big body playmakers on the outside who
can be emotional male contents in George Pickens and DK Metcalf.
That's a lot for the new quarterback to manage. And

(01:32:06):
if Aaron Rodgers coming in there with his own stuff,
combustible environment you've created.

Speaker 3 (01:32:13):
Really okay, I'm gonna throw out a team right now.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
I'm not gonna say whether they're a winner or a loser,
and I we'll discuss it after the fact. I'm gonna
give you the team. It's gonna be the Houston Texas. Okay.
And I think you can make a case that the
quarterback CJ. Strouds offensive line got worse and it was
a problem. Last year they traded five time Pro Bowl
left tackle Laramie Tunsil. Okay, he was, like I think,

(01:32:39):
according to Pro Football focused the fourth best pass blocking tackle.
All right. So I would have to say if hearing
that and seeing that, I would have to put the
Houston Texas under the loser bracket, the loser bracket free agency,
all right.

Speaker 4 (01:32:57):
I can't put them in the loser bracket.

Speaker 5 (01:32:59):
This is why declearing the decks for the big extension
they're going to eventually have to give c J. Stroud
after the season, because I think Stroud is probably.

Speaker 4 (01:33:08):
Eligible to begin those conversations after this third year.

Speaker 5 (01:33:12):
I think you want to kind of start clearing the
decks to make sure you have enough money to do it.
Also with Laramie Tussle, for all the things you talked
about PFF rating him as what fourth best or whatever,
best offensive tackle. Yeah, I think he also led the
league in penalties. I think he had either fourteen or
eighteen penalties holding he did not have.

Speaker 4 (01:33:31):
His greatest year. An't want to mention that. I mean,
you didn't want to mention that. You want to conveniently
leave out.

Speaker 2 (01:33:39):
Yeah, exactly, Yes, I'm allowed. Right, It's kind of like
poetic justice. Okay, But they also traded away to their
first round pick, offensive god Kenyan Green. I think I
said that the negative.

Speaker 4 (01:33:54):
I mean he hadn't played well. I mean he hadn't
played well.

Speaker 5 (01:33:58):
You don't play well, you're subject to get up out
of here. That's part of the deal. It's a lifetime agreement.
I think they've actually done a really good job of
doing I wouldn't give them an A plus grade or whatever,
but I understand the logic behind the moves, and we'll
see how it adds up. It all depends on how
well they play. That's ultimately what it comes down to.

Speaker 2 (01:34:19):
Okay, I'll give you another team and I'll see what
your discussion is on this one. Let's talk about the
Dallas Cowboys, and to me, the Cowboys right now just
a standing and quicksand in mud. They're afraid to make
a big move in free agency, which they've done nothing.
But they did kind of restructure contracts with Dak Prescott
and cde Lamb.

Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
Big whoop.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
They didn't do anything. They didn't do anything of agency.
They are to me a big l. Take the day
off the hat and put an L there. They're losers
in free agency.

Speaker 5 (01:34:51):
Yeah, I mean, nothing great, having moved the needle at all.
Continue to try it out the same team. Don't know
how talented that is that they currently have. Yeah, I
don't know. I don't know how they got better.

Speaker 4 (01:35:05):
I don't We won't know it after the draft. Yeah,
we won't know it. After the draft.

Speaker 5 (01:35:12):
We can talk about maybe the young guys will developed,
but until we see them, we don't know. So yeah,
I'm with you. They don't get any no bonus points
over here.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
All right, Okay, here we go. Let's talk about the
LA Rams wide receiver Davonte Adams. Okay, he did not
make the Pro Bowl last year with the Las Vegas Raiders.
Now he's with the Rams, and I think that right
now you have to give the Rams a little bit
of a star, a little bit of a plus. I

(01:35:45):
consider it was a win move that Devonte Adams goes
to the La Rams, although we'll see what happens. Look,
he had a problem because he was with Aaron Rodgers
who basically didn't do anything. I think there's a good
situation here with him on the Rams. I give the
Rams a plus. I give them a winner in this
free agency situation.

Speaker 4 (01:36:06):
You give him a plus.

Speaker 5 (01:36:08):
Yes, If I can't give him a plus and I
won't give him a minus, what would that be?

Speaker 4 (01:36:18):
What's a neutral? That would be a neutral? I don't look.

Speaker 5 (01:36:22):
Devanta Adams is a declining player right now. Like Davanta
Adams has been a great player for his career. We
can talk about whether he has gold jacket status in
those things. He's a declining player and he doesn't have
the same kinds of traits that he exhibited when he
was demand in Green Bay. He's still very productive, he's
still reliable, and some would say maybe an upgrade over

(01:36:45):
Cooper Cup just because he's available. But on the field, look,
he's more He's more role player than superstar right now.
Meaning I wouldn't change depecting whether this offense pookin the
coup should be one then DeVante Adams. They can't go
the other way?

Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
Yeah? Can I go the other way? Over thirty years old? Speed?

Speaker 5 (01:37:12):
Isn't their explosiveness of separation is not what it was.

Speaker 4 (01:37:16):
He's not the same player.

Speaker 5 (01:37:19):
Maybe I'm wrong for calling it out, but yeah, that's
I don't see the same player that keeps you up
at night.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
Okay, all right, I want to talk to you about
running backs because I thought that with the emergence of
Saquon Barkley and you could throw in Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs,
Tony Pollard, all these guys. Not many free agents on
the mark for running backs, but I thought like the
price tag of free of running backs would increase because

(01:37:48):
of the because of the success.

Speaker 3 (01:37:51):
And the valuability.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
I've used that word after such a word, the valuability
of these running backs, what Saquon did in Philadelphia and
what Derek did as well. So I think that there's
a possibility the running back position, which they claimed to
be dead several years ago, I think it's alive and
somewhat well. Vikings we mentioned they re signed Aaron Jones
two years for twenty MILI with thirteen guaranteed, not a

(01:38:13):
lot of money. So the running back position, to me
is still a question mark in the minds of many
people in the National Football League. The charge A signed
A G. Harris one year five point two mil. I mean,
what's the deal. The running back position still is not
as valued as it once was, and the moneies that
have been thrown out there is nothing. Cowboys signs Javonte

(01:38:36):
Williams three million for a year. Come on, I mean
that's I hate to run people's money around like that,
but it's peanuts, it really is.

Speaker 4 (01:38:45):
It's the talent.

Speaker 5 (01:38:47):
Like noh, just because Derrick Henry and Sakuon Barkley or
whatever have great years, they're also elite running backs and
they've been elite. The guys that you mentioned, no disks,
no knock, they're not elite running backs, and they got
paid accordingly for an elite runner. Yeah, you still crack

(01:39:09):
it open, you know, Sakawon bark you got big money.
Derrick Henry, two time NFL rushing Champ, big money, Josh
Jacob former NFL rushing champ, big money.

Speaker 4 (01:39:21):
You got to ask some accolades to go on to
the money. That's what we're seeing.

Speaker 5 (01:39:27):
And the reflection in the running back position would never
be seen in free agency.

Speaker 4 (01:39:32):
It would be seen in the draft. Let's see how.

Speaker 5 (01:39:35):
Many first round running backs come off the board. Let's
see if Aston genty gets his just due? Omarion Hampton?
Does he get his just due? What do they think
about the Ohio State kids? Traveon Henderson and crunch On Jukins.
Those guys, that's where the evaluation will really be tested,
because if we're being honest, Genty and Hampton are no

(01:39:58):
brainers when it comes to first round picks.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
For Let's talk about Genti for a second. That's a
guy who played at Boise State. Would people will personnel
people in scouts be hesitant to look at him in
a different light simply because he played at Boise he
stayed and didn't play against top notch competition, which I
hate to say that. I mean he rolled, he ran
over the competition he played against, but he was not
playing in the Big twelve or sec.

Speaker 4 (01:40:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:40:23):
I think with running backs, you've seen that you don't
have to come from the biggest conference to have the impact.

Speaker 4 (01:40:28):
But you will take a look at how you perform
versus Penn State. You will take a look.

Speaker 5 (01:40:32):
At the knowledge or the tread that's left on the
tires because he had a heavy workload the last two
years of boys.

Speaker 4 (01:40:39):
Can't he sustain it? Can't he prepare it?

Speaker 5 (01:40:41):
How can he take his game to the next level.
All those things will be in the conversation when it
comes to genty great start, star, quickness, great balance, physicality, toughness.

Speaker 4 (01:40:52):
Burst, all the things that you look for.

Speaker 5 (01:40:54):
He is in elite RB one day steps onto the
field right offense, which to me is any offense, gap
schemes on scheme. He's friendly. Uh with all of those.
It's just a matter of how how soon can.

Speaker 4 (01:41:08):
We take it. If I'm the Las Vegas Raiders, he's there.
He should be there.

Speaker 5 (01:41:12):
Man, we walked the card up because we've now given
Geno Smith a franchise running back to build around. We
can come back and get another pass catchup.

Speaker 4 (01:41:20):
But we got brock Bowers.

Speaker 5 (01:41:21):
I now have a young nucleus of playmakers that are.

Speaker 4 (01:41:25):
Gonna be around for a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
Now you're scare him because you've got brock Bowers.

Speaker 2 (01:41:29):
Do you know Smith? And they get that running back
from Boise, They're they're they're they're cooking. Then they're in business.

Speaker 4 (01:41:35):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:41:36):
Yeah, No, that's that's that's that's how we would approach it.
Because when Pete Carroll's been at his best, it's because.

Speaker 4 (01:41:41):
Of the running game. Uh, he can do the committee situation.

Speaker 5 (01:41:46):
But he had it best when he was giving it
to one workhorse runner. That's Marshawn Lynch over and over
and over again. They ran it down your throat and
you couldn't stop him. They played with young quarterbacks and
they were able to get it done.

Speaker 2 (01:42:00):
It really is last but not least. We talked about
Laramie Laramie Tunsel going to Washington right now. I got
to give a plus to a quarter about Jayden Daniels committed.
They're a team to reckon with right now because they
got Deebo Samuel Okay, and I got it for like
a for nothing for a fifth round pick really, so

(01:42:20):
he's gonna go alongside Terry McLaurin. And that guy was tough.

Speaker 3 (01:42:24):
So you got two.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
It's so great when you have two receivers like you know,
since he's got Chase and Higgins because you can't double
team one. That's the key right there. And I think
that Washington right now. I mean, I'm not saying they're
going to the super Bowl, but they're they're a tough
well they could it could be a tough.

Speaker 4 (01:42:42):
Tough you're saying it, go ahead and see it. Just
say it. With your chef, so we can they.

Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
Could very well be in the super Bowl next year.
Very well, I would not be surprised.

Speaker 5 (01:42:51):
Okay, So now this is when we put the disclaimer
that the opinions and thoughts of Andy, especially his own,
you should know that he finished last in the march, madness,
brackets and all of those.

Speaker 4 (01:43:03):
Things, all of those things should be a part of it.
That should be a part of the legal leaese.

Speaker 2 (01:43:07):
I didn't finish last. I'm in last, but I didn't
finish there yet. I mean I may, I may, I
may improve after today. That may change a little bit.
We'll see, it may change.

Speaker 4 (01:43:17):
So so one of your upsets are going to end
up in the final the final four.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
Uh well, I pick Houston to win it all.

Speaker 4 (01:43:26):
So okay, So that's so Houston is just saving grace.

Speaker 5 (01:43:30):
So last so last night you're you're biting your nails
waiting a little bit when they were fading fast.

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
Well, when Saint John's lost that that bounced me because
at Saint John's the final four too, So it's not
good and it's.

Speaker 4 (01:43:43):
Not a good luck. And you're not you're not climbing
out the cellar. You're not climbing out.

Speaker 5 (01:43:47):
The good thing is, I know it Fox Like, once
we get to the the sweet sixteen or the final four,
they'll give you a.

Speaker 4 (01:43:54):
Chance to do a new bracket. So maybe you have
a chance to do a new bracket, and maybe in
the makeup bracket you're fair better.

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
Thanks a lot, thank you, all right, you know one
lest let me just run this by. I see a
team losing a player and getting the same player back,
Samaji Perron. Okay, they're running back. The Bengals get him now,
they get him back. Obviously they need a running back.
They need a guy who could run the football, you know,
not catch the ball out of their backfield, but run
the football. And he was pretty good. They let him go,

(01:44:22):
he was a free agent, and then he comes back again.
So now he got him for two years for three
mil or three point six mil. I mean to me,
I don't think I would do that, although you know
he was good here in Cincinnati, but I think it
shows everybody you made a mistake by letting him go.

Speaker 4 (01:44:37):
Right, No, a different time, different circumstances.

Speaker 5 (01:44:42):
You also don't know what kind of money he was
asking for back then you tell me he signs what
two year three million dollars or yeah, whatever, like he's
just a yeah, he's just a tick above the veteran minimum.

Speaker 4 (01:44:54):
It also tells me that.

Speaker 5 (01:44:55):
Maybe they view him as a great guy in the
locker room. You're gonna bring in a you running back
to do it because obviously, look, they missed Joe Mixing.
They'll never admit it, they missed Joe Mixing. What Joe
Mixing gave the textans they certainly.

Speaker 4 (01:45:08):
Couldn't needed at some point they didn't get a.

Speaker 5 (01:45:10):
Young running back, So then you got an old head
in the locker room who can help the young guy
acclimate to the league, learn what it's like to be
a pro, all of those things I like to move.

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
All right, there you go, By the way.

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We talk about winners and losers with the free agency
with the football teams in the National Football League. I
got a winner. Who's an agent? And I gotta find
out who this guy's agent is. All right, I'm talking
about Daniel Jones.

Speaker 3 (01:47:13):
Did you hear this story? Buck about Daniel Jones? All Right?

Speaker 2 (01:47:17):
Last year was the fourth time and the last five
years he started each of his team's first ten games
with the Giants, and he's had fewer than ten touchdown passes.
That is something all other NFL quarterbacks have done four
times in the last five years. He's also gone fifty
eight consecutive starts get this, without throwing three or more

(01:47:38):
touchdowns in a game, which is the longest streak in
the last thirty years. All Right, Now, despite all that,
despite all that, he signed a deal with the Indianapolis Colts.
For thirteen point one mili fully guaranteed for the Indianapolis Colts. Okay,
this guy's not worth thirteen bucks, let alone thirteen million

(01:48:00):
dollars and the Colts sign him. Tell me we all
thoughts when you heard about that deal. I want to
see who is agent. The agent's a genius. How did
they squeeze thirteen million dollars out of the coach for him?

Speaker 5 (01:48:11):
Well, I mean, thirteen million dollars is barking basement deal.
It's almost a split between QB one QB two money.
It's kind of the the hybrid version of high end
backup low end starter money. The reason they were able
to secure that deal is because they wanted legitimate competition
for Anthony Richardson. In fact, I would say that this

(01:48:34):
deal signals that they want to hand the ball to
Daniel Jones. If it's close, the ball is going to
Daniel Jones.

Speaker 4 (01:48:40):
He is someone who help a team win a playoff game.
He has played well at times when he stays within himself.

Speaker 5 (01:48:50):
Kevin O'Connell did a really good job of watching him
over the course of the season when he came over
to Minnesota, and he was able to probably relay some
of the things that he saw to Shane Stikeen and
that staff. And this is a team that is desperate
for a franchise quarterback. It's unlikely they'll be able to
get one in the draft, so they're going to have to.

Speaker 4 (01:49:12):
Make it happen on the cheap.

Speaker 5 (01:49:14):
And Daniel Jones, even at thirteen million dollars is relatively
cheap for QB one, which is wanted me to move.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
Okay, so you use the term desperate, and I gotta
believe they are desperate. But you know what, I may
end up eating my words. And look at what Sam Donald.
I mean, they thought he was washed up, they thought
he was through in New York, and he came out
to Superstar really like last year. So Sam Donald got
it done. Maybe Daniel Jones a new environment, a new
coaching staff, a new place, new scenery. Maybe maybe maybe
he does. Maybe he comes out there and does some good.

(01:49:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:49:43):
I mean, I just never thought much of him.

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
Did you think much of him going to the NFL?
Did you think he was gonna make it in the NFL?

Speaker 4 (01:49:51):
Danny Dimes.

Speaker 5 (01:49:52):
Look, I thought he'd be solid. I didn't see him
as a top ten down. But it doesn't matter if
he's the first round quarterback. He can go anywhere in
the first I saw that in New York. He did
some some decent things.

Speaker 4 (01:50:03):
He was solid and serviceable.

Speaker 5 (01:50:05):
The thing that got out of pocket when they made
a decision to pay him, but they wouldn't pay. That's
when you had issues because everyone could look at the
team and yeah, everyone could look at the team and say,
a Saquon Barkley is the driving force of the offense,
not Daniel Jones. Why are you willing to pay him?
But you won't pay the running back. That was the
bigger issue, And that's when you kind of faded on

(01:50:28):
the just because they didn't do the right thing based
on how the talent should have played out it should
have been.

Speaker 2 (01:50:36):
I mean, besides, they didn't have much of an offensive
line and didn't have much of a receiving court at
the time, so it wasn't much of a team. It
really wasn't.

Speaker 5 (01:50:46):
Yeah, but I mean, but the team got to the playoffs. Now,
I mean they weren't much of a team. They still
got to the playoffs, and he didn't play well when
they lost. Like, he has to play well in the
bigger moments, and he hasn't done that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:59):
Doubt about that. They did beat the Vikings two years ago.

Speaker 5 (01:51:01):
I remember, yeah, early, yeah, I mean they got they
got to win and all that stuff. But it's falling
apart since then and last year. Let you know what
it looks like without them. I would say that they
need to make sure they have them them.

Speaker 4 (01:51:16):
In place all right.

Speaker 2 (01:51:18):
By the way, Well, life for the Tirack dot com studios,
And I wanted to throw this out for you and
anybody else. It's about card collecting because I read a
story the other day, maybe crazy. Does anybody still collect
baseball cards with cards in general?

Speaker 3 (01:51:30):
Did you do that as a kid? Baseball cards?

Speaker 4 (01:51:32):
Did? Yes? Did you really loved it? I thought it
was great.

Speaker 2 (01:51:37):
I mean the tops with the chewing gum and stuff
and everything.

Speaker 4 (01:51:40):
Yeah, all them had all the baseball cards following them.
Love reading the stats on the back.

Speaker 5 (01:51:45):
It's such a different time like now, I mean, we
get all that access, but remember back then, you didn't.
You didn't get a chance to see your heroes all
the time. You only got a chance to kind of
see them. But Joe gariol Is Saturday Baseball, like that's
that's kind of how I remember it. So those cards
kept close to the game and being a stats guy
seeing the stats on the back of the car and
all that other stuff that was that was fun, you

(01:52:07):
know what.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
I was a big time baseball card collector and I
still have some of them at home, still have some
buried away here down my basement. But I don't think
kids aren't doing it today. And more than that, you know,
I think maybe too expensive. I mean, I don't know
how much it was back then. Maybe twenty five cents
for a pack, I don't remember. But now it's got

(01:52:28):
to be close to a buck, buck and a half,
maybe two, I don't know. I don't even see him.
I don't even see them in stores anymore. I really don't.

Speaker 4 (01:52:37):
No, Normally you have to get the whole kit and
you get the hold the whole deal. But it's it's it's.

Speaker 5 (01:52:45):
Great that when you see people do it. But yeah,
it's amazing people still collecting them. How much money people
will pay for the elite cards.

Speaker 4 (01:52:56):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
And I brought this up though, because there was a
card featuring the Pittsburgh Pirates pitcher pulls schemes and an
autograph major League Baseball debut patch. This sold this card
featuring the picture and the patch sold for one point
one million dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:53:13):
It's amazing. An eleven year old.

Speaker 2 (01:53:14):
Boy originally acquired the card in a packed and a
baseball package this past Christmas. He's gonna get nine hundred
and twenty five thousand dollars from the sale. It's amazing.
That's more than the eight hundred and seventy five thousand
dollars salary that the pirates are paying schemes in twenty
twenty five. They think about that the kid got more

(01:53:36):
money for the card and it's his card, then the
picture is actually getting paid for this year. Something's not
jelling over if something's wrong, okay, and also fanatics collect
proceeds from the card will be donated. This is beautiful, really, Tody,
Los Angeles Wildfire and Relief Fund. That's a beautiful thing.
But I don't understand how the kid can get more

(01:53:57):
money than they're actually paying the picture. And you know,
but nil money. Don't you think like the picture should
get something. It's his card, his picture, and the kids
getting more money than he's his salary is this year
doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 4 (01:54:11):
No, it doesn't make sense. But that's it's crazy. Nice, nice, nice,
nice little investment there right there on the card.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
That's something nine hundred and twenty five thousand for a
baseball card. Unbelievable. All right, he's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Firman.
This is Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Buttsradio. Now now
we have a real reason to point why the blame
game is freaking next. All right, the blame game right
around the bend. He's Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Fermer. We

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Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
Right now, it's time for the blame game.

Speaker 4 (01:55:04):
With me.

Speaker 7 (01:55:04):
It's all your fault. It's your fault, your fault. Maybe
it's everyone's fault. She's a liar, that's why there's the
blame game. Let's figure out who to blame.

Speaker 3 (01:55:20):
He's a liar, that's you, Patty.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
You're a liar.

Speaker 3 (01:55:23):
You're a liar.

Speaker 2 (01:55:24):
Let's call, let's get it done here instead a blame.

Speaker 6 (01:55:26):
You know what, Andy, I blame you for being last
place in You're in the Bragged Challenge.

Speaker 3 (01:55:33):
Let it go and you let it go? Please?

Speaker 4 (01:55:37):
Moving on?

Speaker 1 (01:55:37):
So guys, so NBA, you know I'll never be able
to be on.

Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
The Countdown show with those guys, those gambles. Really, it's unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (01:55:45):
You know what. Then I blame that to you. But anyways,
so the NB NBA player, NBA players are resting, not playing.
So NBA and their fans are furious. Who do you
blame Andy.

Speaker 2 (01:55:59):
To come in?

Speaker 3 (01:56:00):
He lets him get away with it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:01):
Michael Jordan will stay out two wee hours of the
night at gambling casinos, smoke cigars and still play. It's unbelievable, really,
and these guys won't play. I mean, I don't blame
the coaches really, because you want to rust your guys
for the playoffs and as long as you're not being
punished by it day. What the hey, what the hey,
come on, come on, commissioner, get something done over here.

Speaker 3 (01:56:21):
It's embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (01:56:22):
It's embarrassing not for the game itself, it's embarrassing for
the people that are paying for tickets and want to
see their star players play and they're on the bench.

Speaker 4 (01:56:32):
Yeah it's hard.

Speaker 5 (01:56:33):
I mean, look, I'll blame the players in terms of
like the players sitting down in those things, but I
don't think everyone can have it both ways. Do you
want to see your stars in the regular season, you
want to see him in the postseason. If you see
him in the regular season, they get hurt and you
can't see him in the postseason.

Speaker 4 (01:56:45):
I'm just I'm just saying, you got your ticket and
you got your money's worth, but you may not win
a title. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:56:51):
That's a great point. But you know what, they'll never
do this.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
Maybe the regular season is too long, and maybe maybe
the playoffs are too Maybe too many teams get into
the playoffs. Playoffs are or a joke. Really they play
just to get into the playoffs. The playoffs. Maybe too
many teams are invited to the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (01:57:06):
Yeah, maybe, Well I got another one for you guys.
So no real upsets in the NCAA tournament thus far,
minus Andy Furman's last place in the bracket. But that aside,
who do you blame Bucky?

Speaker 5 (01:57:26):
I blame Andy, I believe, and everybody's bracket Andy's to
blame picked the wrong the wrong sway.

Speaker 4 (01:57:36):
He put bad mojo on the tournament.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
I wish they were upsets because I'd be sitting pretty
right now. I'm not looking up at everybody, which I
am in the basement, but I will say this. You know,
I'm not blaming people for this. I think that no
upsets because right now, and I think Bucky mentioned this
early on. You know, the landscape of college basketball is
somewhat even right now.

Speaker 3 (01:57:56):
Think about that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:56):
I mean with nil, and you know, you could be
rebuild it team with one year. Look at University of
Michigan eight and twenty four a year ago. Look where
they are now.

Speaker 3 (01:58:05):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:06):
The coach has a lot to do with that, but
still at all NIL has a lot to do with
it as well. You could change your roster overnight.

Speaker 6 (01:58:13):
All right, Well, we're gonna stay on this. So why
why is March Madness more popular than MLB's opening Day?

Speaker 3 (01:58:22):
Who do you blame?

Speaker 1 (01:58:24):
Andy?

Speaker 2 (01:58:25):
Well, first of all, more people probably know about March
Madness the Major League Baseball opening day. I forgot that
Dodgers were playing at six am Eastern the other day
when they were playing in Tokyo. But there's something to
be said about one and done games one and done.
I mean when Baseball has their one game playoffs, it's tremendous.

Speaker 3 (01:58:42):
People love it. People love one and done.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
That's the key. Baseball doesn't have that opening Day. It's
a big deal, you know, no big whoop about it.
You know they're playing the same team for weekend series.
Let me give you one little item, which is kind
of cute. Most professional sports teams have big time tick
or tape parades after they win championships.

Speaker 3 (01:59:04):
Not in Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 (01:59:05):
This Thursday's opening Day in Cincinnati, and they have the
country's largest opening day parade ever, maybe the only team
that has an opening day parade. They got the parade
before the first pitch this Thursday in Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (01:59:20):
Wow, I mean, I lost my training thought. So who knows.
I don't know who to belay like, I was so
intent on listening to thing. I don't know. I'm sorry
everything to say. That's what mean I got, I got,
I got one more.

Speaker 3 (01:59:32):
I don't want more for you guys.

Speaker 6 (01:59:33):
So these four teams got snubbed for the tournament and
potentially from Andy having to choose them in the bracket.
It was Indiana the Boise State and a West Virginia.
Did I say four? I meant say three? Sorry, Indiana,
Boise State in West Virginia. Who do you blame? Buckie
Brookie Brooks, he got the final say West Virginia.

Speaker 5 (01:59:56):
I blame Look, I blame the coach. You already had
a deal in place to go to Indiana. I blame him.
He messed it all up because he secretly didn't want
his team to go so he can sign his deal
and take his son with it.

Speaker 4 (02:00:07):
I blamed it.

Speaker 2 (02:00:07):
When more games he'll go, that's about it. Oh all right,
countdown next right here, Fox, stay with him

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