Steve Hartman & Veejay Huskey React To The Thunder Beating The Breaks Off Of The Grizzlies In Game One, Aaron Rodgers Drama Queen Antics On The Jets, Colorado's Jersey Retirements, And Much More!!

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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Well.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Very happy Easter Sunday to all those out there, VJ.
We got a big Sunday. It's got those NBA playoffs
up from running. We'll get into what happened yesterday. And
right now we're watching the thunder ease by the Grizzlies.
Sixty one to twenty eight. Yeah, sixty one to twenty
eight is the score of an NBA playoff game.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
That we're watching right now, VJ. And you complain about
the college basketball when it's in the WNBA scores, and
here we are when an NBA playoff game on opening weekend,
on Easter Sunday. And first of all, happy Easter to
all a lovely faithful supporting listeners in Fox Sports Radio LANB.
We love you guys. God blessed, Happy Easter to you

(01:07):
all man. Always a pleasure to being one man. Steve Harmon,
Harmon and Husky. So yeah, this game right here, but listen, okay,
see is clearly you know it's either them in Cleveland.
I think it's okay see, they're the best team in
the league. And when you're the number one seed and
you're going into the playoffs, I believe that you're supposed
to as the number one seed. You ushould win by

(01:27):
five gentlemen, sweep or sweet like the eighth seed just
played a play and they have no business being on
the court with you all year long. The separation of
these two teams is astronomical. And then you add a
sore ankle to Jean Moram and this team's been resting
for what the last ten eleven days. They're fresh, they're
at home. They know what it's like. They get eliminated

(01:49):
early and feel that pain they learned the last couple
of years. Maybe this is the year, like, okay, let's
go set the tone for Remember when like Shaq and
Kobe got going, and when Jordan and Piper really got
going first rounds Dog it was it was ass whooping
galores like they were, there was no close series. This
is what you're supposed to do, so it's it's not
that shocking to me.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Well, yesterday I did the show with our good friend
Ryan Hollins, who's been part of them at He's been
the Rockets TV analyst for the last four years, so
he's been obviously very close to the Rockets. Had a
you know, who would have predicted the Rockets would be
the two seed in the West this year, But he
was just you know, you know, we're sitting there saying,
how is it that nobody is taking Okay, see, I

(02:30):
don't know, they won sixty eight games this year and
Houston that's the top two seeds, and was nobody's taking them.
You know, they're saying, Oh, it's going to be the Lakers,
it's going to be the Nuggets, it's going to be
the Warriors, it's going to be the Clippers. I mean,
they're talking about this, and then yesterday you and I
are in pretty much lockstep when it comes to this

(02:52):
Lakers team. And you know, last week I was talking
about how this is going to be Lebron James' last
year in a Lakers uniform, or last night it almost
looked like his last game in a Lakers uniform. I mean,
it was just it was an absolute nightmare. And then
you know, Magic Johnson has been going to just Berserco
on social media last night and this morning, just ripping

(03:15):
the team for lack of effort like a preparation. He said, Hey,
JJ Reddick, you did a nice job during the regular season.
You failed in game one of the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
So you know that.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Could just completely flip this entire situation if the Lakers
go down to Minnesota. By the way, you know a
reminder again, Tea Wolves did get to the Western Conference
Finals a year ago before they lost to Luca and
the Dallas Mavericks. But I just again, it just seemed
weird and something that you know, yesterday we brought up

(03:45):
the fact that how is it that no one seems
to be giving the thunder any respect or the Rockets.
If you look at the Rockets matchup against the Warriors,
you might think about this. In three games against the
Rockets this year, Steph Curry averaged sixteen points a game,
shooting thirty six percent from the field.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
They shut him down, rough him up.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
So I don't know why, but after watching the Lakers
blow up last night. I would say this, don't be
surprised if the Western Conference Finals does come down to
a matchup between the Oklahoma City Thunder and the Houston Rockets.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Yeah, it might. But I'll answer your question. I love
the question. Why are we not talking about these two teams?
And this is something I've echoed time and time again
about how we talk about the NBA and this business.
You know why we're talking about Clippers, Lakers, the Warriors.
Like teams that do not have a shot to legitimately
win the championship, they can make it interesting. I think

(04:39):
think if the Lakers rebound and play defense. They didn't
play any defense yesterday. Also, the three point shots that
Minnesota was hitting seems to be the story of the game.
Go look at fast break points. It's twenty five to eight.
That means Minnesota got out and running and the Lakers
weren't getting back on defense. And that's probably what Magic
Johnson is talking about when he talks about the effort.
And when you're there covering the game and you see
and you're watching it, and you're there watching it live,

(05:01):
you can see the whole court and you can see
guys jogging lollygag and standing back complaining into the reps,
while Minnesota's like, Okay, well you stand back here, We're
about to get out here and go. That's the reason
why we don't talk about the two top teams because
they don't have the sexy player. You have Sga. But
as he's a quiet guy, people are comparing him to
James Harden. He's a foul hunter. That's become the narrative

(05:23):
this year for him, is he foul hunts. He's really
not that good. He's no. This guy can play. He
led the league, and he let the league and score.
If you lead the National Basketball Association and scoring in
any season in your life, you're a pretty damn good
basketball player. You're not foul hunting. Guys can't foul hunt
to thirty plus points a game. That's just part of
the game in the way the game is called nowadays. Tulton,

(05:45):
Reggie Miller, he admitted he kicked his leg out like
he finally admitted, Yeah, I used to kick my leg out.
If the Rep's gonna call it, this is what I'm
gonna do. So they don't have the sexy guys. Who's
the sexy guy? Steph Curry Kawhi Leonard's injury. Can Kawhi
Leonard be full blown this year? Full?

Speaker 6 (05:58):
Go?

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Dis excuse me? Then you have Lebron, Luca all these
other players. Who's minis I mean, who you're talking about
on Houston? Who are you talking about on Houston? Right?
You think about who you're talking about, But we shouldn't
be talking Dylan Brooks. I mean, Dylan Brice is right,
he's the guy that gets the most attention. It's that guy, right.
It's not Jalen Green, it's not Van Fleet, it's not
even Emoi Dunkle, who's doing a great job coaching the team.

(06:19):
That's how you get to the number two. You get
a coach that going through some stuff in Boston, but.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
West a phenomenal jo right, the guy that's and that's
something we were talking with Ryan yesterday about, you know,
all the controversy when he left Boston and everything else,
and so everybody was looking at the Rockets like, really
you're gonna hire this guy? Yeah? Uh?

Speaker 5 (06:35):
And in two years, like what he has done.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
I mean in two years, he's taken the Rockets from
completely nothing all of a sudden to a two seed
in the West. So as far as the Lakers are concerned.
Yesterday it really was shocking. I mean, think about this.
This was the first time that they had actually hosted
a first round game one in the playoffs since twenty twelve,

(06:58):
so you know, they've been in the playing turned him
in the last several.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
Years, and they were, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Rested, and I know, interviews with Lebron through the week saying, yes,
a good time for us to sort of get our
because he's obviously had the groin injury and everything else.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
And they just came out flat.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
I mean they they the beginning of the game, sixteen
points in the first quarter, came out and what was
weird was the Timbrels couldn't make anything in the first
quarter and they had seven points in the first seven minutes,
so it looked like it was going to be a
walk away. When then that second quarter happened and Minnesota

(07:34):
started heating up, and and one thing that you know,
again Magic Johnson social media brought up and it's it's
a valid point.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
We're the adjustments.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I mean, you're down eleven and a half time, and
then the third quarter starts and it's you're down twenty four.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
I mean, it's like gone.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
And this has been a problem all season long for
the Lakers third quarters. I don't know what's going on
halftime with this team, but they they come out flat.
But in a playoff game that happens. It was it
was so you know, you say, all right, okay, it
was an aberration. Lakers should come back in Game two. Yeah,
they should come back in Game two. It's coming up
on Tuesday or at home.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
I mean, if you.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Lose two at home, the series is over. I don't
think that's gonna happen. But I'm looking more long term here. Okay,
you know, maybe the Lakers can rebound and find a
way to beat the Tea Wolves. But I agree with
you VJ. The idea that this team is a serious
contender for an NBA championship, I just don't see it.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Also to something else, I want to point out that
this is not a knock on Lebron. These are just
the facts. Luca's twenty five Lebron's forty. Like there is
a difference. People like, Seriously, this is not Lebron's team anymore.
It's not. It's not his franchise any even though it
may still feel like it. They are planning that it's

(08:46):
Lucas squad. Luca goes out yesterday. I just I'm sorry
I had to throw that in there about Luca didn't come
out flat yesterday. Luca came out bawling yesterday, like he's
been doing for like the last eight weeks. He's been
on fire.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
He had one assist in the game, though, God's gonna
shots assist in the game.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
He's got to make shots. God's got to make shots.
I mean, he's got it all around. Where lost the
rees yesterday? Where was rue yesterday? Exactly? God's got to
make shots, and those guys are making shots. Him and
Lebron are averaging eight rebounds a piece.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
You know.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
It was also interesting stat of the game. You know
how many fowls were called on the Lakers in the game,
ten ten twenty.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
One fouls on the TVLS.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
So the officials if you watch that game, and I'm
certainly far from a Laker hater here, because I've been
following the Lakers my entire life, ten fouls called on
the Lakers in forty eight minutes, Are you kidding me?

Speaker 5 (09:34):
I mean, the refs did everything.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
How about when Lebron had the dunk and he was
hit on the arm, but where there was no call
and he will it's right at the officials starts and
I'm like, you're gonna tee him up? Hold on, there
was a tee up on the other side. Yeah, yeah,
you're not gonna tee him up. And you can almost
see the official swallow's whistle on that. So it seems
like the officials are under a mandate, you know, do

(09:56):
what you can do, but there was nothing he could do.
When you're, you know again, having a team fire up
fifty percent three.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
Well think about it, twenty one threes and then twenty
five fast break points, you don't have the opportunity to foul. Like,
to be honest with you, I don't know if I
go with the refs are on mandate. I just look
at the game and watching the game full cover before
blown cover, like they don't even have the opportunity because
when they're missing shots, they're getting the ball and they're
getting it out. This this game, this series also feels
very personal between Luca and the Timberwolves. I don't think

(10:28):
the Lakers and the Timbers. But once you once again
you just said a minute ago, Luca knocked them out
in the Western Conference Finals, I think a lot of
those Timberwolves players look at this series like, yeah, it's
the Lakers, But that guy right there, he did bust
us last year and send us home and went on
to the finals, and you know, stopped us from playing
for Larry O'Brian. We want to go get that guy.

(10:48):
Luca can get his like you saw, yes said he
had thirty seven, end up scoring ninety seven points. They
didn't even break a hundred last night. Other guys in
this for this team. I've been saying it since the
trade was made. Stars, but when I look at the
resounding supporting casts other than my man ar, I think
he's a really, really good player. He's really worked on

(11:09):
his games development game. I love Austin Reez, But tell
me who else you got gave Vincent. You're gonna trust
h Finley Smith, You're gonna truy. You can't trust those guys.
Tell me when those guys ever did anything for any
other team. Gave Vincent for the heat but you know
they didn't win it.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
They didn't.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
They didn't, they didn't go all away with it. He
wasn't that much of an integral part of it. So yeah,
they it's a lot of pieces to be a contender.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, Ben scoring last night forty three to thirteen t
Wolves thirty point difference.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Okay, so that accounts for a big loss.

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Speaker 5 (12:30):
All Right, most entertaining game yesterday.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Mix had a great comeback, easy win for the Paces
over the Bucks. But how about that game between the
Nuggets and the Clippers. They're going to get into that series.
What's next in a series that has all the looks
of a series that's going to go the full distance.

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So halftime thunder all over the Grizzlies sixty eight to
thirty six. I'm going to pick the thunder to hang
on the second half of this one.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
This could end up being a sweep in the first
round we.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Got into you you know why Inexplicably no one seems
to think the thunder a gonna make the NBA Finals
after winning sixty eight games. I will say this though,
their next opponent will be the winner of this series.
Between the Clippers and the Nuggets and VJ. You know,
the big question really on both sides. I'm on the

(14:05):
Clippers side, was just health, you know, I mean, are
they going to have a healthy Kawhi Leonard in the playoffs?
Something they haven't had for four years? And obviously he
played well yesterday, not good enough. Twenty turnovers ended up
costing the Clippers the game. But the bigger question he
was the Nuggets without Malone on the bench. You know,
here he was fired with three games to go on

(14:25):
the regular season. You know, you get into the playoffs,
it's a different beast. Early on, it looked like the
Clippers were in control. They were up fifteen at one point,
and I was impressed the Nuggets came back. They've got
veterans on that team, veterans that have rings that they
earned two years ago, and they really carried this team
across the finish line to get an absolute must game

(14:47):
at home. I mean, I don't know if they can
win this series, but at least for one game, it
showed the character of this team that I'm sure they
appreciated the efforts of Malone. But at the same time,
they had a job to do and they got a
yesterday in Game one.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Did they get the job done? Or did the Clippers
just choke this thing away in the second quarter? They
open up think about it, Clippers open up with a
thirty five point first quarter. Yeah, they then turn around
and score eighteen in the second quarter, and then twenty
two and twenty three and twelve, as far as twelve
as the overtime. Just the inconsistency with this team and

(15:22):
they and and when you're up that big, when you
come out the gate, that that that strong, You've got
to maintain that on the road. It's important on the
road because once that crowd got going, and once Jokids
start making a pass and listen, they were still Russell
Westbrook bumble plays, in bumble shots where you're like, okay,
all right, the Clippers is gonna hold on to win
this one because the Nuggets act like they don't want it.

(15:44):
But then coming down to stretch and then Harden, Harden's
balling yesterday, like Harden's playing well. But we used to
seeing that. We just we've never seen Harden finish the job.
But we've seen hard and getting to the playoffs and
put up some dope numbers like that. That that's he
didn't just fall off in the playoffs. He just can't
get out of the Western Conference finals into a finals
and show us there. But to me, it was that

(16:05):
second quarter, that second quarter that kind of brought them
back to the pack per se of what the Nuggers
we playing, because the Nuggets weren't playing well at all,
and once you can only get eighteen points in a quarter,
it sets the tone for the rest of the game.
In the twenty two points in the third quarter.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Well, Norman Palell had twelve points. He can't do that.
Those guy Avert changed over twenty points a game. Bogdanovic
had zero donut. So I mean, you know, yeah, it's great,
hard played, great hard hit a huge three late in
the game. He played outstanding. I thought Kawhi plays solad
and you know if he's a Zubos just continues to

(16:40):
put up double doubles. I mean he's he was not
they at all, But Norman Pala's got to show up.
They need all of their stars to show up, and
then they got to get something. You had to have
a zero for Bogdanovich coming off the bench. I still
like the Clippers.

Speaker 5 (16:55):
In the series.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
I think they're the better team, and I think if anything,
because you know, they had won eighteen out of twenty
one to close out the season, eight game winning streak.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
Harden talked about it after the game.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
You know, it was very uncharacteristic of the way we
played to play like this tonight, because he flied out
and said, well, you said, you know, it wasn't them,
it was us twenty turnovers. You know, on the road,
you're just not going to win a game like that.
And still it went overtime and it was a two
point game. So I think the Clippers turned this around.
And whether it's the Clippers or the Nuggets going up

(17:29):
against ok C in the second round, it'll be interesting.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
I mean Okase.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Again the knock on them as well, Well, what if
they won, where's their experience?

Speaker 5 (17:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
You know, I remember the first time the Bulls got
to the NBA Finals against the Lakers in nineteen ninety one,
after years of trying to get through the Pistons to
finally get there, and then the Lakers won that first
game in Chicago.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
I'll never forget that. M bergets Yes.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Vloody Evach was in the starting line at Kareem had
retired and.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Sam hit the three though yeah yeah, Perkins hit the
three on thew and that was back when it was
the two three to two format.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
So you figure out, all right, Lakers get the split
in Chicago, come home, they got sweat, swept sweat three
in a row, and the Bulls won that first championship.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
So beat him in five. I love I love this series. Also,
ye say, Kawhi Leonard seven turnovers? That that also can't happen.
Speaking of things that can't happen, Kawhi can't have seven turnovers.
He was trying to force sin yeah, little bit, Yeah,
he can't have He can't have seven turns. And the
question I had about Kawhi, it's not really as health
because to me, I have to just have to wait
and see it, right, I just got to see it.
Think I could be healthy now. I did want to

(18:34):
see are you going to try to prove? Like, are
you out to prove to people that you can get
through a playoff? You're still the same type of player.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
I know.

Speaker 4 (18:42):
Kawhi is this cool, laid back, doesn't say much kind
of guy. But he is also a professional athlete. And
I know professional athletes, they have chips. Man, they want
to prove the people. Because he hears the clutter, he
hears the noise. He's from out here, he's from la
Like he hears it. He may not respond to it
like a Lebron Willer some of these other players in
the league will. But you know it's up there and

(19:03):
watch it yesterday, Like you said, it just looked like
I got it. I gotta do this. I got to
proove so it. I got it hard and fifty percent.
He's eleven to twenty two from the field, like Harden play.

Speaker 5 (19:11):
Yeah, so you got watch Harden's play.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
I mean, look, the reason that Viatza zubots is probably good.
He could actually win both Defensive Player of the Year
and most Improved Player. He'll definitely be one of the
three finalists for both those awards. How did that happen?
Everyone will tell you James Harden Harden? And now you know, Tuesday,
I was out at in Tuadome covering Clippers practice and
they actually had Zubots and Hardens standing next to each other,

(19:37):
you know, talking with the media, and it was funny
because Zubots sort of referred to because he goes, yeah,
you know, my name's never been mentioned for Anny Awards,
and all of a sudden, you know, he's talked about
again for Defensive Player of the Year, Most Improved maybe
all NBA for the season he had, and you know,
people were asking him like what was the difference, and
he looked over he's He's like this guy, I mean,

(19:58):
James Harden is a phenomenal player. But I agree with
you on Kawhi because when you think about this, so
Kawhi Leonard two time NBA Finals MVP, member of the
seventy fifth Anniversary team, as with James James Harden obviously,
and I just felt in watching him force things yesterday
that is the case.

Speaker 5 (20:15):
Harden just seemed to Harden had a phenomenal game.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
He's just as hard as what we call a baller
like he just he's just there's nights he's gonna, you know,
not it's not gonna look. But he came up that game,
of course he did. He listen. They should have won
the game. But here's the thing in the playoffs, when
you have a chance, saying with my beloved Pistons yesterday,
when you got a chance to steal game one, is
the lower seed, you gotta close the deal, you do.

(20:40):
I don't think the Pistons are gonna win game two.
I don't think the Clippers are gonna win Game two.
You had your shot. These home teams now know, okay,
all right, who we got through this one, all right,
but let's not let's not. Let's not let's not have
to score twenty one straight points to knock off this
young Pistons team with their best player not playing well,
where Tobias Harris has to be the guy that shows up.
But how love's that guy been in the league. He's

(21:01):
been in the playoffs a bunch of times. He knows
how this goes. So you can see that, you can
see the youth, you can see just the even with
the Clippers just the mindset of we got the lead,
now we come out high and then things just fall
apart hard and does this thing Kawhi is pushing too much?
You're getting thirteen points from the bench, you give up

(21:23):
twenty turnovers and twenty nine points off those turnovers. You
just can't do that in a game won when you
got the league. You gotta finish that Gale, man, And
they didn't, and they could be I don't know if
they win this series. Man. I know some people think
they're a better team. But if you're a better team,
then you close those games.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Well they again, Yeah, your golden opportunity to really take
a strangle hole in the series by winning Game one
on the road. They failed on that. Let's find out
what is trending right now. Speaking of the Clippers, are
resident Clippers experts. And by the way, Moncie, like I said,
first time I've ever been doing two at Dumb.

Speaker 7 (21:58):
I mean he's out there for clip. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
The practice it's a complex. I know you think of arena, Okay,
I walked in the empty arena, took a couple of pictures,
but the practice facility it was gigantic.

Speaker 5 (22:11):
It's all one huge complex.

Speaker 7 (22:13):
It's pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
But yeah, I mean it was very frustrating yesterday for
your Clippers because it was a game you felt like
they should have won.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
They felt like they should have won, not just that.

Speaker 8 (22:23):
It's just you go back to all the times the
Clippers have done something like this.

Speaker 7 (22:27):
Yeah, you know where they lose it at the end.

Speaker 8 (22:29):
Now, I it was the Clippers to win, and they
definitely lost it.

Speaker 7 (22:34):
But I also am giving the Nuggets credit.

Speaker 8 (22:36):
They hit the big shots. They still had to do
their job.

Speaker 6 (22:40):
You know.

Speaker 8 (22:40):
It wasn't like we just spiraled out of control and
completely lost the game. I hated that turnover by Kawhi
where Jamal Murray knocked it out of his hands, Like
just that was a half assed.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
What was going on with Van Gundy and Jokic wrestling
with basketball? We played that highlight on TV several times.
I kept replaying. I'm like, what is I mean? Van
Gundy's out of his mind?

Speaker 8 (23:01):
Yeah, well, I mean, you know, passion, I don't know,
I don't have another answer.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
Businessides zee he was the coach and he grabbed the leg.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
Remember that was that?

Speaker 9 (23:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (23:10):
He was he was on Alans one morning.

Speaker 10 (23:11):
He's on his leg trying to break that out of
that fight out it just really fast your take on
our our ederless of Kawhi kind of forcing yesterday like
pressure and do you believe there's anything up here where
I got it?

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Because this could be my last I don't.

Speaker 7 (23:27):
I don't think he cares. He's done it. He's and
people have been talking this whole time.

Speaker 8 (23:32):
I also don't think he cares because it's like when
people want to criticize him, they criticize him, and at
the same time, the don't want to give him the
credit when he deserves the credit.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
I think I never I lay off because his body's
let him down. You can't, you can't quantify that.

Speaker 8 (23:43):
But in the media, in the media, it's like it's
all criticism because his body can't hang.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (23:48):
Never, never the credit when he deserves a credit. Like
so I think he's kind of like who cares what
people say?

Speaker 4 (23:54):
I lead it too, franchises's champions.

Speaker 7 (23:56):
What else is he?

Speaker 4 (23:57):
You know?

Speaker 11 (23:57):
So that's what I think. But I actually and I
don't think he was overdoing it. I thought Norman Palell
was playing hero ball in some of that game, and
I was like, you stop stop playing hero ball, Norman Powell.

Speaker 7 (24:08):
I get it.

Speaker 8 (24:08):
You got us here without Kawhi because.

Speaker 7 (24:11):
Of you, we got the fifty wins.

Speaker 8 (24:12):
Interesting, But now that Kawhi is back, you were you
gotta fall.

Speaker 7 (24:15):
You got a little bit, a little.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
Bit a smid.

Speaker 7 (24:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (24:18):
Now, if you have the hot hand, I trust that
Harden and Kawhi will give you the ball, you know
what I mean, Like they're not afraid to give the.

Speaker 7 (24:23):
Ball to the hot hand.

Speaker 8 (24:24):
But I thought Norman Powell was the one playing. It's
a little bit of hero ball, especially in the first half.

Speaker 7 (24:29):
All right, enough about that.

Speaker 8 (24:30):
I mean, do you want me to tell you that
the thunder are just crushing the Grizzlies as you guys
have been talking about bar seventy eight to thirty six.
And also SGA is two of ten, So it's not
because of Sga.

Speaker 7 (24:42):
Shay Giljos Alexander is not having a good game right now.

Speaker 8 (24:45):
He is in spite of his performance, they are crushing
the Grizzlies right now, John.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Are you saying this is a good basketball team?

Speaker 8 (24:53):
Okay, Wow, I think it's gonna I think it's I
am pretty impressed that Shay is having such a rough
start and that they're winning by this much.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
I will see forty two point lead.

Speaker 8 (25:04):
Yes, no, that is a ridiculous, oh well balanced performance
right now by OKC through and through. This was the
largest lead at halftime in franchise history in a playoff
game for OKAC. Plenty of basketball to come, but this
one seems like it's done early. Let's check in on baseball.
The Yankees have added another run. They're up on the

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Rais to zero top of the fourth inning. The Mets
also another run. It started with a Francisco lind Or
walkoff homer, so they're up on the Cardinals two zero
top of the fourth inning. Brewers at home over the
A's two zero bottom of the first inning as well.
The Mariners beating the Blue Jays six to two after
two innings. Matt Olsen started things off for the Braves
with the two run shot, and they've added some more

(25:46):
since it's five zero over the Twins at home top
of the fourth, but the Twins have the bases loaded
and they still have two outs to go in this inning.
The Philly started things off with a Bryce Harper to
RBI double, then a Nick Costillano's RBI single, all in
the first inning, so they're beating the Marlins three one
bottom of the fourth in Philadelphia, and the Reds have
just exploded. They were just tied with the Orioles at
one apiece and nowsand Sinnati is up six to one.

Speaker 7 (26:07):
Top of the third inning.

Speaker 8 (26:08):
Red Sox with the four to two lead over the
White Sox at home bottom of the third.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
All right, guys, big day back to.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
You, all right, mon say we have a huge Yeah,
I mean, we got a ridiculous amount to talk about today.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
Once again, Harvin and Husky.

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(27:08):
much more coming up on the Draft later on in
the show. I did want to bring up one story though,
about something. It's a tradition that I feel is the
most ridiculous tradition in sports, and that is retiring numbers.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
Notre Dame.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Has more players in the College Football Hall of Fame
than any other school, including seven Heisman Trophy winners. Do
you know how many numbers Notre Dame is retired?

Speaker 4 (27:42):
Sounded like a trick question, So I'm going to say zero.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
Zero, zero, Yeah, Notre Dame.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
Zero.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
Notre Dame has never retired a number.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
An NFL team that I used to work for, the Raiders,
have never retired a number. The fact they have twenty
Hall of famers never retired a number. I don't understand
this idea of retiring numbers.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
You know how this all started.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
It started with lou gereg You know when lou gerrig
the tragedy of this, you know, incredible baseball player, pride
of the Yankees, and he gets this crazy als disease
and the Yankees decided because they'd only created numbers a
few years before that before the ND players didn't even
have uniform numbers. They gave him the number four because
he hit fourth in the lineup. Baber was number three

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because he had third in the line So they retired
Lou Garrig's number, and this began this tradition of retiring
Jersey numbers. So this was called the light when Colorado University,
Colorado announced that they're going to retire the numbers of
Travis Hunter, which makes sense the guy won the Heisman Trophy.
I would think if he won a Heisman Trophy, that
qualifies you to retire number.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
And then Shador Sanders.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Shador Sanders career at Colorado honestly is the same as
Cordell's short Cordel Stewart was a second team ap All American,
just like Shador was. This last year, actually his senior year,
which was the year that Shot Salon won the Heisman,
just like this past year that Travis Hunter won the
Heisman Trophy. They actually only lost one game the entire

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year and won their bowl game. That was a much
better team than nineteen ninety four Colorado team. And then
on top of that. You have a Colorado team that
won their only national championship in nineteen ninety with Eric
Bienemy and Dion Figures and all these great players, many
of which are in the College Football Hall of Fame.
None of their numbers have been retired by the University
of Colorado, and yet now Shador Sanders will have his

(29:39):
number retired. Frankly, I really give a rats ass about
whether he retires his number, but to really open up
a Pandora's box when you do that and ignore others
that maybe as deserving or even more deserving if you
were to trace the history of Colorado football. I bring
this up because you have been a big proponent of
Shdor Sanders. We've brought them up many times. With the

(30:01):
upcoming drivel, continue to update you on that. But what
was your reaction to the negative reaction of the announcement
that Shador Sanders, before any member of that nineteen ninety
Colorado National championship team or players like Cordell Stewart or
Michael Westbrook, that he should get his number retired.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
My reaction to the negative reaction was no reaction. It
was just more or less like just something else to
get mad at Shador Sanders about through the hate for
Dion Sanders' dad. That's what this is all about. I
watched Coach Prime's press conference the other day where he said,
if his last name ain Sanders, we're not talking about this.

(30:41):
We're just not We're not talking about this, and we
know and we know why we're talking about it. Now.
I'll go back to the retired number. Thing never bothered me.
I'm kind of like, I think it's cool, especially nowadays.
You put your time in with a franchise and now
we're's such a business. It's always been a business, but
even more today. When you're talking contracts and you talk
and endorsement deals and you're talking sponsor you talking about
just all the money that goes into all the griminess

(31:03):
that goes on in the back hallways of pro sports.
When a player produces and stays with a franchise and
gives to them hopefully wins a championship, helps build a franchise,
money helps sell merchandise, help sell tickets, and actually adds
value to the franchise. When you got there was at
one point four billion, and when you retired it was
at two point eight billion. That guy should get his
number retired. That's doing something like Aaron Donald should get

(31:24):
us never retired by the Rams. He did that much
with Hi Dan Marino deserve to have his number retired
by of Dolphins. He did that much from there as
certain players. I just don't think it can just be anybody. Now.
The whole thing about Shador and Sanders getting his number
retires and simple fact, it's just this Steve. Whether people
like it or not, if the school wants to do it,
then the school can do it. Nothing and there's nothing,

(31:46):
absolutely not did that anybody can do about it. It's
gonna be retired. They have up the value of that
program and that school there just by him being there
along with his father and the coach, along with Travis Hunter.
Did they win a national championship?

Speaker 6 (32:03):
No?

Speaker 4 (32:03):
Did they go in a Big Bowl game?

Speaker 6 (32:05):
No?

Speaker 4 (32:05):
But they that's what they're building to. It was only
year what two, It's only year two and they've already
elevated that program for being one and eleven when he
got there. I don't have I didn't have a problem
with him, man. And you know the backlash is coming.
Shador Sanders is always gonna face back like Deon Sanders
hasn't played a sport in twenty years, and Deon Standers
still gets backlash, he still gets criticism. So he lived

(32:29):
through this. He's ready for, he's prepared for. And fans
like me, you know, they're gonna be people. They could
have said they were giving them a statue people to
hate that. They would have said, they're gonna hang a
plaque in the football facility. People would have been, well,
hunters here get a plaque. Did you know such and
such play guard here, never missed a start for three straight.
There'll be somebody that finds a player that they think
should get that. But at the end of the day,
his dad's the coach, his program wants to do it,

(32:50):
the school wants to do it, and the damn thing
nobody could do about it. So you know, I'm happy
for him. Shador retired, Jerry, I'm happy, Hey n Travis
on him, like you know, I'm okay with it.

Speaker 5 (32:59):
Man, Well, I agree about the Sanders thing.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
And look at did Dion Sanders and Shdora Sanders and
Travis Sender have an impact on the Colorado football program?

Speaker 4 (33:10):
Obviously?

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Uh so that cannot be denied. Again, I'm not a
proponent of retiring numbers. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 5 (33:17):
You know me, I am like the numbers freak.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
I remember every number, and yet, for some reason, having
follow sports, I don't pay attention to uniform numbers.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
If you were literally asked me, like, what are.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
The uniform numbers of the current starting quarterbacks of the NFL?
I would probably miss two thirds of them. I do
not pay attention to uniform numbers. Do I don't know why.
I'm I'm I'm a numbers guy, and yet, for some reason,
jersey numbers do not register with me.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
In my point, the Notre Dame also, all right, so
what that's norda Dame's fault? If you you listen, I
hate nord. I'm gonna met you go. So I hate
nord Dame. But if you guys don't want to retire
all the greatness that's come out of norda Dame, like
Joe Montana can't get his jersey retired, to Rome Bett,
Tim Brown can't get their jersey retired, You're like, who
the hell do you guys think you are? That these

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people can come pour into your program and make you
the legendary program you are and they can't get their
number retired. That's shame on Nord to.

Speaker 5 (34:14):
Day well and Raiders.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
By the way, USC second most players in the College
Football Hall of Fame. The only numbers they have retired
are their eight Heisman Trophy winners.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
And that's fine.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
That's some of the greatest offensive linemen in the history
of the game. No only win See again, you won
the heismin Yeah, I think you should have your number retired.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
All right.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Coming up on the other side, we're gonna start sneaking
into this NFL Draft, which is just four days away.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
You mentioned Shrudeur Sanders.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
He is a lightning rod on just about every subject,
including the upcoming draft.

Speaker 5 (34:44):
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hanging on to a fifty one point lead over Memphis
with four minutes to go in the third quarter, ninety
nine forty eight. Honestly, this is an embarrassment to the

(35:26):
NBA that you have a playoff game like this, And
you know, it was funny. I was talking about this
yesterday with Mark Medina, our NBA insider, just how important
this postseason is for the NBA. It's been a bad
year for the NBA, a lot of negative pr I know,
Adam Silver points the finger at the media for all
the negativity towards the NBA. But they need a good

(35:48):
playoff they need you know, you have this golden opportunity
over the next couple of months to get people focused
on the NBA. Yeah, you get best past the NFL Draft.
You know, baseball heads to midseason. This is the time
for the NBA to shine. Potentially got some good playoff matchups. Well,
they they need some very competitive series here.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
It's a good playoffs though. You have to explain that, well.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
You have to.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
You have to get people talking about a playoff series, right,
This is this is where when you need villains. And
we talked a lot about this, right with Caitlin Clark
and Angel Reese and that dynamic duo and what it
meant for the college game, and moved on to the WNBA.
Got people talking, who's talking about the NBA right now,

(36:32):
you know, And this is why there hell been on
a on a Luka Doncic.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
I mean that was a talking point.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
When this incredible trade came down between the Mavericks and
the Lakers, people were talking about the NBA.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
That's the problem though, We're talking about players and not
the game and teams. That's the point that I'm making. Yeah,
that's the point I'm Marylander. That's the point I've been
saying for at least maybe three or four years. I've
been on this train of we got to get away
from this man. We're missing good teams. And now you're like, oh,
no one wants to see a finals with Oka. See
why not? They're in the top like seven of the
top ten defensive categories. They have the guy is gonna

(37:05):
probably be the MVP, the guy that led the league
and scored in a young team's all new fresh faces,
Chet SGA, you know, all these all these young guys,
and we're not we're not interested that we were holding
on to the past too long. Steph thirty seven, Lebron forty.
I've always said, if that's Kevin Durant, right, if those
are the guys we're gonna hinge our eight month talking

(37:27):
talking you know, points on. Of course, when you get
to the playoffs, you think, oh man, who's gonna watch
these series? Like the Indiana Milwaukee series. That would be
a great series if Dame Lillard can play. But we
saw yesterday, No Dame Lillard. It's just too much for
Jannis to beat that team by himself. He's not gonna
be able to do it. So who's gonna talk about that? Serious? Nobody?
We're not interested in Boston for some reason. Who is

(37:49):
the defending the defending NBA champions. We're not interested in
the Boston. We damn, you're not interested in Cleveland? Right,
So who are you gonna talk about you? We're we're
gonna lean right back to those names. So when you
say they need a good playoffs, sounds like to me,
we need what Stepha Lebron to get to the finals
for it to be considered a good playoffs. That I'm just.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Well, I mean, remember remember those years this point, so
if we never had it where two teams face each
other four straight years in the NBA finals until that
cast right Golden State run. But there was there was
all kinds of elements in that you know, first of all,
you had Lebron returning to Cleveland, you had obviously Steph
the seventy three win team ends up losing on their

(38:31):
home court Game seven.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
Then Kevin Durant shows up, and now now you.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Know, now you're really hating on a Warriors team that
was popular off of a sudden, they're unpopular because Kevin
Durant shows up. So these are the kind of little
storylines that get people going. All right again, I want
to touch very briefly because they're gonna have much more
on the NFL Draft, which is just four days away.
Interesting note about the year's NFL draft. All thirty two

(38:57):
teams right now are sitting on their picks.

Speaker 5 (39:01):
There is there's not right now. The draft order is exactly.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
As it finished. There's been no trades in or out
of the first round. I don't know if we've ever
gotten this late to the draft, where it's literally thirty
two teams in a row. Everyone's got their own pick.
No one's moved up, and no one's moved down. That way,
here's what I would say. I think the overall view
of this draft is there's just not that kind of player.

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I think the teams that traditionally trust their board.

Speaker 5 (39:31):
I mean, you're paying.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Guys to evaluate talent, right, this is what you're pay
guys all you along. So you set up your draft
board and you look at the draft board. Those teams
that traditionally take the best player available, regardless of position,
usually come out on top. Go back to Green Bay
when they drafted Aaron Rodgers. They didn't need a quarterback.
Brett Farv was in his private at that point, but

(39:53):
they looked at the board and they're like, far the
best player left on the board. So you got to
take up I would. I hope more teams will use
this as an example. But you know, somebody's gonna panic
lateness first, all right. So on the other side, I
want to get into this because Shador Sanders seems to
be that lightning rod with cam Ward seemingly set at

(40:14):
number one to the Tennessee Titans, how will the top
of the draft play out? We're gonna break it down
for you, along with much more NBA playoff reaction.

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(40:48):
coming up, Magic Celtics, Heat Cavaliers. I definitely want to
get into that series of ej and then of course
Warriors Rockets, which should be very interest seen series. Once again,
a lot of people love the Warriors in that series,
and the question is why is everyone down on the Rockets.
We'll break that down coming up a little bit later

(41:09):
on in the show. Also, obviously, we are focused in
on the NFL Draft, which gets started on Thursday, and
for a variety of reasons, there hasn't been as much
buzz about this draft as we've seen in years past.
I mean last year, of course, we had the quarterbacks
at the top of the draft, including two Heisman Trophy winners,

(41:30):
so there was a lot of buzz about that, and
in recent years it's been that way, but this year's draft.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
Has been pretty quiet.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
That doesn't mean once we get to draft day that
all hell won't break loose. But let's talk about Shador Sanders,
because this is some an individual VJ that you feel
almost protective of.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
I would dare say.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
That you feel like he's been under the spotlight, being
the sun of Dion. Sanders obviously had two brilliant years
at Colorado and now gets ready for the draft, and
there just seems to be all kinds of mixed messages
about his future in the National Football League. There's been
questions about arm strength, There's been questions, I guess, even

(42:15):
about character and his attitude and everything else. I mean,
there's a variety of reasons you could knock a player again.
I remember Randy Moss when he showed up the Heisman
ceremony wearing sunglasses, and it seemed to suddenly hurt him
in the draft and he fell fell, fell into the past.
The middle of the first round, the Minnesota Vikings took him.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
How smart was that?

Speaker 5 (42:37):
Well, first team All pros rookie.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Year, How smart was that?

Speaker 2 (42:40):
And so you know, he completely changed that, you know,
and he later admitted the reason he wore the sunglasses
is that he felt so out of place coming out
of Marshall. He felt, you know, intimidated to be there
at the Heisman ceremony with the likes of Charles Woodson
and Peyton Manning.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
He was just a nervous young kid, right Ryan Leaf.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
That was the fourth one that was at that nineteen
ninety eight heistman ceremony or nineteen ninety seven Heisman ceremony.
So you know this is these are all little factors
that you have to weigh when you're evaluating talent. Are
the right fit? Are they right for your system? And
everything else? But right now I want to get an
update from you. We know that cam Ward is going
to be the first pick in this draft by the
Tennessee Titans. You got the Browns, you got the Giants,

(43:23):
they both need quarterbacks, Patriots stoned, and then you go
down the list. Obviously everyone's looking at the Raiders at six,
They're looking at the Saints at nine. What do you
expect as far as sho Door Sanders is concerned. This
is your last say before the draft on Thursday. What
I expect to happen is what I don't want to happen.
But what I expect to happen as close as we

(43:44):
get to this thing is he looks like he could fall.
I don't mean fall into like the twenties or anything
like that. We talked about standout guys.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
Right this first round, who's the franchise changing guy? Like,
when you get this guy four years from now, your
team's in a conference championship game because you drafted this
guy to have what you had? Is it Abdual Carter? Now,
you would have to be damn near like Aaron Donald
to make that type of impact, to be able to

(44:16):
control one side of the ball to help get your
team to a conference championship. Right, you gotta have a quarterback,
I have what receive, You gotta run a ball, Gotta
have a whiz kid head coach that knows how to
do all these different crazy things that other coaches don't
know how to do. Cool, But if you're gonna go
get like an Abdual Carter, is he that guy is
Travis Hunter? That guy is Travis Hunter. Guy you draft
and then all this talk about playing both ways and
then oh, guess what he gets to play both ways

(44:37):
because it's like, well, you know, we don't hit as much,
they don't tackle as much. Players are more protected nowadays.
It's not as much warranty on your body. We see
the kid did it? Over a hundred plays a game
in Colorado last year after failing a little bit his
first year, but got his conditioning together and was able
to pull it off. And then when one heisman he
can do this is it cam Ward? Is cam Ward
a franchise changing quarterback? You and I and preferred was

(44:58):
just talking about the line in this draft, right, Are
any of these lining gonna be that tack? Is there
an Orlando Pace here? Is there Anthony Munoz here? You
know what I'm saying? Is there one of those guys
here that when the Rams drafted Pace? Yeah? Yeah, you
got Marshall Fulkin, you got Ozierra Keim and Isaac Bruce
and tell her, but Orlando Pace holding down that left
side all those years. Man, We're allowed your line to

(45:19):
do everything. That allowed the offense to do everything like
it starts in the trenches.

Speaker 5 (45:24):
Tony Boselli did that with Jackson.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Oh my god. Absolutely. And then you add what a
Fred Taylor? You bringing an old Mark Brunell, Jimmy Smith,
Keenan mccardo. Next thing, you know, what do you do?
You upset the Denver Broncos in the playoffs and get
to the conference championship game. So you have to have
that guy. Do you see that guy in this draft?
Ashton GenZ probably looks like a franchise changer to me.

(45:47):
He's perfect for the Raiders. He's sitting right there for
the Raiders. But does Tom Brady want to get that
quarterback thing down right now? Right? You know? Does does
Tom want to get that quarterback thing? Yeah? You have
a running back. But if all you can do is
run the football, what else can you do? You can't
throw if you have a quarterback, I don't care if
you can run the football. So it looks like he
could slide. But I'm still holding hope that the Saints

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somebody leaves up. I think the Giants might be out
at three. I can see the Giants trading out. It's
interesting you mentioned Giants trading out.

Speaker 5 (46:15):
All right.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
So one of the guys we watch and we were
talking to Chris about that is Daniel jeremih I love him, yeah, absolutely,
And so this was this was about a month ago. Okay,
this is this is a while ago, but this is
where he was sitting at that point. As far as
the draft, he had Cam Woord won to the Titans.
He had an Abdual Carter going number two to the

(46:36):
Browns third Giants Shoodoor Sanders. Now he also mentioned, like
you said, that they could trade out of that pick.
Now he had the Patriots taking Travis Hunter. I mean
he'd be perfect because there are a few teams in
the NFL with less talent right now than the New
England Patriots. That might be a team that can use
them on both sides of the football. But if the

(46:56):
Giants trade down. See that's again it always comes down
to this. It's not necessarily who you select, it's where
you select him. You know, you don't want to use
up draft capital unnecessarily to move up to get a
guy that if you just stood pat they would be
sitting there. Jacksonville is not going to take a quarterback.
They're probably looking for an edge guy. I agree with

(47:18):
you with the Raiders. I just don't know how they
could pass on Genty. Genty got my Heisman vote this year.
No knock on Travis Hunter. I just thought that Genty was.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
I wanted to predicts. I thought suld been co Well,
it's just so close, and.

Speaker 5 (47:32):
It was a close vote as well.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Genty game close in the vote, but he just and
again forget the numbers, you know, I'm talking eyeball tests
when teams were just loading up, you know what's coming,
and so now they got eight in the box and
he was running between tackling, you know, and he was
running hard. You know, you'd see this guy running big
guys on his back, running hard. I love that he's

(47:55):
got the breakaway speed, but at the same time he
can grind out yards. I have no doubt the genty,
if he stays healthy, is going to be an impact
running back.

Speaker 4 (48:03):
Five fifteen man with that type of speed.

Speaker 5 (48:06):
Well, I mean again, if he's got the stars.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
I would never mention anyone in the same breath as
Barry Sanders. But there are elements of what he does,
the vision, the balance, you know again, the sick lace
size where he's shorter.

Speaker 4 (48:20):
He's not small, he's just short. He runs through people.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Know, those are strong legs on him, just like Barry
Sanders head back in the day. So that that's going
to be the guessing game. And then again you got
the Saints sitting there at number nine. If Shador Sanders
gets to nine, I don't think there's anyway the Saints.

Speaker 4 (48:42):
Pass on him. They can't. They need a quarterback.

Speaker 5 (48:45):
Well yeah, but they need to go to the Giants
at three true.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
But see we talked about this a few weeks ago
with the Giants, I don't think and the Raiders at
six Russ or I don't think Russ and Jamis make
that opening day roster. We've seen in the NFL where
veterans signed early in the free agent period and they
don't make it to the They don't make it to
the opening day roster. I just you know, you need
a quarterback now. If Brian Dable Nosey's on a hot seat,

(49:11):
is doing them guy remove where he's like, he's just
gonna masking tape and duct tape and some chewing gum
and a payper clip this thing together at the quarterback position.
Because he's just Brian Dable and he's the quarterback whispering.
You get two veterans, you get a Russell Wilson in
and you get a Jamis. Guys, you don't have to
teach how to be an NFL. You don't have to
teach how to be NFL quarterback. But they may not
have it no more. But I much rather do that

(49:32):
than put my trust in a rookie. And if I
don't play well, I mean, if I don't coach well,
we do and we play bad, I get fired and
then somebody else gets this rookie. If you're the Giants,
you have to really be thinking. That could be a
thought process of how they move this offseason. Signing two
veteran quarterbacks like that. But neither one of these guys
are gonna do anything for you pass twenty twenty five.

(49:53):
Neither one of those quarters famous Jamis or Russ. They're
not doing a damn thing for you past twenty twenty five,
So why not get your quarterback now? I don't like this.
Wait till we see who comes out in the draft.
You don't know what these kids going to be next year.
You better get what you know now.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
Well, again, you hired Brian Dable as your coach of
the Giants because he was the quarterback whisperer. He took
a guy, Josh Allen, who had never completed sixty percent
of his passes in any season college or the NFL.
Next thing, you know, he's a sixty nine percent passer.
Now he's an NFL MVP. And Brian Dable got all
the credit for figuring out and creating the great player

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that Josh.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
Allen Is today.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
So if he could do it with him, isn't that
the idea of taking a quarterback so you have a
guy that you try. I mean, you decided, despite the
disaster of the last couple of seasons, to retain Brian
Dable as your count fired him.

Speaker 4 (50:44):
If you knew you needed a quarterback, you knew the
season wasn't going well, You knew you were going to
have a top pick by like week sixteen, week seventeen.
You knew you were going to have a top four pick.
You should have fired Brian Dable, hire somebody else, go
ahead and take a quarterback now and start from there.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
But I understand the Giants frustration because they've been firing
coaches every two years, so they thought. But the only
reason I would keep Brian Dable is you still trust
that he has some kind of magic with quarterbacks. You
draft a quarterback, it makes sense for the Giants to
take a quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
Is he gonna do with these two guys? Please tell
me not many?

Speaker 5 (51:17):
Exactly nothing nothing nothing, it's do nothing.

Speaker 4 (51:19):
We haven't seen you.

Speaker 5 (51:21):
Gotta you got a the prime He was sold on
Daniel Jones.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
The reason Jones got that conference. I understand, but he
was sold on him. They won a playoff game on
the road against Minnesota, right by Minnesota. All right on
the other side, is at the end of an era?
Are we finally going to say bye bye to Aaron
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Speaker 5 (52:36):
So we've We've been.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Talking about Aaron Rodgers at nauseum ever since the season ended,
and we kept saying, well, is he going to make
a decision by the draft?

Speaker 5 (52:46):
Like is that gonna happen?

Speaker 2 (52:47):
And most people fly like, yeah, I mean we will
know by draft day what is going to be happening
with Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 5 (52:54):
And here we are four days and we have no clue.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
And his appearance with Pat McAfee clarified we have absolutely
no clue that he has no clue, although I'm sure
he does. Of what are the intentions of Aaron Rodgers.
Here's the way I read it, and want to get
your read, obviously, VJ. My read has always been this
is that he begged the Vikings.

Speaker 5 (53:14):
Begged, begged, begged, begged.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
The Vikings have acknowledged that they had some contact with
Aaron Rodgers and basically told him right now, we're not interested.
But that was the team he deafly wanted to get to,
because that's a team that is primed for a Super
Bowl run in twenty twenty five. The Steelers are not,
the Jets are not, and he doesn't have any other options.

Speaker 5 (53:35):
Nobody else is interested in Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
I could not believe he wanted on Pat McAfee and
drone on about all the you know what the Jets
put him through and forced him to take up private jet. Well,
actually they didn't force you to take a private jet.
You took a private jet to go there and being
told in four minutes we have no interest in you.
But that being said, it seems painfully obvious that he
does not want to play for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Don't

(54:00):
think there are any other options. And my thinking is
Aaron Rodgers is dragging this out to where eventually we're
gonna get to the announcement that he is retiring from
the NFL.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Well, you and I post kind of been on the
same page with this. This goes back to him supposedly
was gonna sign with the Giants. I said, no chance,
no chance. To hell, he signed with the Giants. The
Giants just saw up close and personal what having Aaron
Rodgers is like. The Giants just saw they shared a
building with the bum as Jets. So then the Steelers
they come out this Vikings thing. Listen, he might have

(54:36):
begged them, it doesn't matter. They have their quarterback. You
don't move up a year before in the draft to
say JJ McCarthy and then bringing forty plus year old
diva queen narcissist, Aaron Rodgers, you just don't do that. Yeah,
you're on the verge of probably winning something in Minnesota,
but look what you just did with Sam Darnold. So
I'm pretty sure JJ McCarthy can do the same thing,

(54:59):
if not a little bit more that you're gonna need,
namely not choked down the stretch in the season and
kind of cough it all up. But Aaron Rodgers, you
and I both, I just we both said this maybe
three weeks ago, maybe a month ago. I just think
he's done. Now when you're going now, now, let me
ask you this. You're going Pat McAfee and you blast
the Jets. What damn GM in their right mind was

(55:23):
watching that and said, there's my guy. That's who I
want right there. Oh yeah, yeah, give me more, give
me more, Oh yeah yeah, trash talk them, yeah, tell
us all about port all out, Eric. That's what I
want in my locker room as my quarterback, as my
franchise guy leading the other fifty two men. I want that, right,
Show me the damn GM that solved that. And it's

(55:46):
like yep, let's go sign him. It's not happening. I
think about this. Maybe Pittsburgh don't want nothing to do
with him. Well, I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
I don't know anyone I don't want that. Here's the
thing about the Jets situation. He claims that, you know,
so they could have done this on the phone, right
in other words, you know, look, we have no interest,
thanks for no things.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
But they basically wanted to meet with them. Well, maybe
that was out of respect.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Maybe it's because you are Aaron Rodgers that we're not
going to send you a text message, our email. We
are going to actually meet with the fact that you
decided to take a private jet, that's on you.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
I mean, he could have flown bo got it ball out.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
You know, we want you to come here, And I used, well,
why didn't you fly him in?

Speaker 5 (56:29):
Well, it didn't have to fly in.

Speaker 2 (56:30):
They just say we wanted to talk to you face
to face and say, look, you know, we appreciate what
you've done, but we are going to move on and
go in a different direction. I think that pretty much
was the Jets intention. I mean, the Jets, look, they're
a mess of an organization. That's been proven again they
they've had the longest drought without a playoff appearance of
any team in North American sports. I mean, it's pretty

(56:51):
obvious they don't know really what they're doing. But yeah,
I just it does nothing makes out. Tell you what
makes sense for Pittsburgh at twenty one, Jackson, don't. I mean, yeah,
you know, you took justin Fields. You felt, you know,
in the trade situation, it felt like he still wasn't
going to be your quarterback in the future. Take a
young quarterback. You did this with Ben Roethlisberger back in

(57:13):
the day. Turned out pretty good FA And so yeah,
I mean you've drafted quarterbacks that actually have had some success.

Speaker 5 (57:19):
Kenny Pickutt was not that guy.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
See, that was the one that really killed him, right,
University of Pittsburgh guy. He had that inflated numbers during
the COVID year where a lot of people really misevaluated
a lot of the quarterback talent in that draft.

Speaker 5 (57:32):
He was the local guy. They saw a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
They were convinced that he was going to be Dann
Marino because he broke Marinos records at the University of Pittsburgh.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
Obviously he was not. I will say this about Jackson dark.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
I he thought he was going to be well the
GM did. I mean he was.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
He's like, look at the guy broke all the Marinos records.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
At the University of Pittsburgh. The guy did nothing until
that last year. He was like a one year wondering
pitt Some of.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
These gms, I mean, they're just alutall.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
All over the place in college football. Now you remember
a guy by the name of Timmy Chang.

Speaker 5 (58:07):
Oh yeah, rh Hawaii guy. Yeah, I think Joe's record, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
He does because he threw four jillion yards. Because June
Jones did was like, listen, just throw the ball. We're
just gonna drop back into thow the ball. Which I mean,
it's so when some guy gets a record or puts
up these crazy numbers to say.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
That thought his guy got the late great Colt Brennan,
he led Hawaii to the Sugar Bowl, was a third
in the Heisman Trophy, voting.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
For one more on missing one. There was Colt Brennan,
There's Timmy Timmy Chang, and there was one more just
aired out quarterback with all these ridiculous uh uh numbers
and yards.

Speaker 5 (58:42):
But yeah, I pick up through forty two touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
This last year, Like I said, you can flinger. Here's
what I'll say about Jackson Dart. I've been looking at
a lot at Jackson Dart. Of course, I remember when
he started his career at USC. Uh. You know, he
went down there with Lane Kiffin and the guy's got
a gun. This guy has got velocity on the ball.
He can throw the football. Does that mean he's going

(59:06):
to be a successful quarterback in the NFL. No, because
you've got to be able to process information. You got
to be able to throw the ball accurately.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Especially one it's a problem.

Speaker 5 (59:14):
Yeah, you got to throw the ball.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
But again, who would have thought Josh Allen would become
the quarterback he is. So you get the right coaching,
maybe he can make a quarterback. But yeah, as far
as the Steelers are concerned, I honestly, at this point,
I don't think the Steelers are interested. I don't think
anybody is. I think Aaron Rodgers is just trying to perpetuate,
like he's sitting there and the decision will be his

(59:36):
and ultimately, like again, if you're thinking about retirement, you're
already retired, right.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Absolutely. I always say that another team I want to
throw out there is speaking of the draft that I
think could trade out of like that top ten or
like like the top six would be Jacksonville. You think, well, here,
here's the deal. You have to pay that guy because
you made the point of you know, not giving up
draft capital, right, But if you trade back and you

(01:00:03):
see a guy you like, because we've talked about the
draft board, right, and if you don't have to take
them at six or seven or wherever wherever they're their
positioned at, then why take them there?

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Why So you're saying, if Shador Sanders is still sitting
there at six and you're the Saints, well, actually that's
six seven seven.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
Starts with the Giants for me at three, then Jacksonville
and then the Saints. I think those are three teams.
The Saints Ione I think want to get up, but
I think Jacksonville and the Giants. The Giants. The two
quarterbacks signings just got me really thinking, Okay, they might
not be taking Shador, because then what sense would that
make Signing two veterans in the y'all season and you

(01:00:44):
always got you also still got Chicken Cutlass Davito there,
you still got the Vito there, you still got three
quarterbacks there so now you're gonna still drafty roster.

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
Maybe the ideas you don't want to play shardor Sanders
as a rookie.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
We have seen so many careers the railed by being
thrown into a starting role to.

Speaker 4 (01:01:07):
Him and DeVito, to the backups, and you just took
them a.

Speaker 5 (01:01:09):
Homes He sat the whole year behind Alex Smith.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
I got that. But then, okay, that's a perfect example.
But then why signed two Vets? Why not just sign
one of those vets? You got de veto?

Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
Well, you want to quarterback competition?

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Look at no one's making the Giants to finish anywhere
but dead last in the NFC East unless the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
I was about to say, you got Cowboys. Cowboys is
a is a coin toss this coming year. Man, we
got to see what they do in the draft, and
then you know those June first cuts, when those Vets
get let go, if they grab somebody. At that point,
there's still a couple of good receivers still available. Mine
Cooper am I not mistaken? Isn't He's still a free
agent right now. There's a receiver there that you can have.
There's players you can have. But I think Jacksonville might

(01:01:53):
be another team that says, okay, like Jacksonville could use
a corner, right Will Johnson out of Michigan's right there?
But do you want to take them that high? Do
you want to kind of drop back and let somebody
go up and go get a guy they really want,
like assid Gen. Let's say the Raiders blowback. Let's say
a Raiders blow that, say, you know what, we need
offensive line help, because they do. We need offensive line

(01:02:13):
help they do. Let's let's grab let's grab one of
these tackles. Hell, let's say let's tell Kevin Calvin Banks Junior.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
The Raiders will take either Genty or Shad or Sanders.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
Then they gotta takes Shador. You gotta get the quarterback first.
Only is the quarterback if you believe the quarterback. But
I believe he is that quarterback. Would have a hard
time believing with the quarterback issue to rate.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
If you're high on Jaln Milroe and take him in
the second round, how id he?

Speaker 4 (01:02:41):
How about you? Feels more like third round to me?

Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
Well, okay, but let's say you get Genty and you
get Milroe.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
I just must rather get all right, So who do
you think is better? Milroe or know what I.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
Mean, you're getting genty and then later Milroe.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
Not the question though, what's who's the better quarterback? Who's
the better quarterback prospect for the NFL? Jalen Milroe or
should door Sanders? Okay, so then, but.

Speaker 5 (01:03:04):
I'm not I'm not giving up on Jalen mill Row.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
I'll tell you why a lot of people looked at
Jalen Hurts as the same type of quarterback.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
Like it's like, oh, yeah, he was benched.

Speaker 9 (01:03:16):
I know, I mean he was.

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
He sat a year and then Oklahoma created an offense.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
I was always a Hurts fan based on how he
carried himself sitting that full year out at Alabama, sitting
behind Tua. He didn't he didn't complain, he didn't do anything.
He sat there as a backup. Transferred Oklahoma was running
up for the Heisman. That impressed me about his character.
All Right, we'll have much really fast.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
What if I told you the reason why Saban pulled
that move is so that Tua wouldn't transfer. What if
I told you that, well, because it was kind of
it was kind of strategic the way it all went down,
Because didn't Jalen Hurts get back in towards the end
of the season, when Tula got hurt, you still had
Jalen hurt there. We know Hurts wasn't going to transfer,
and then he finally did, and then goes Oklahoma and
puts them in the cos Footballlay Off and the finals
for Heisman again. So you know, it just felt like

(01:04:05):
to it at least. So let's play tour.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
All I know about Jalen Milroe is that he threw
one of the most legendary fourth down passes in the
history of the game.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
I mean it just was.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
I mean on fourth twenty seven, like fourth of gold,
the twenty seven from Auburn unmor believable throw. Milroe could
be a Jalen Hurts type, a little.

Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
Bit flying the raidar over over though getting genty I'll
take Shador over getting gent and Milroe because Chador is
a guaranteed.

Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
I would not.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
I would not if I could get genty and Milroe
versus just getting Chador, No, I would do that. All right,
we'll get more into this, but first let's find out
what is trending right now.

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
Is that game finally over?

Speaker 8 (01:04:54):
No, it was over in the first quarter. Yes, you
could have turned it off and you would have known
the answer. It's quite impressive what the Thunder have done.
I think they're talking ish to a lot of people,
including me, because maybe I haven't taken them seriously, and
now here they are proving that they need to be
taken seriously. A one thirty one to eighty win over
the Grizzlies score game on one thirty one to eighty.

Speaker 7 (01:05:17):
If you're wondering if that is.

Speaker 8 (01:05:18):
The highest margin of victory, according to ESPN, it is not.

Speaker 7 (01:05:22):
The highest margin of.

Speaker 8 (01:05:23):
Victory in an NBA playoff game is fifty eight by
Denver over New Orleans in two thousand and nine.

Speaker 5 (01:05:29):
There it is so.

Speaker 8 (01:05:31):
And also, if we want to go way back, Lakers
of Atlanta in nineteen fifty six in nineteen fifty six,
also so fifty one points. Thunder just absolutely murdered the
Grizzlies from start to finish. All five of okc's starters
ended in double digits, and Shake Gildes Alexander was mid
at best four of thirteen fifteen points, five assists.

Speaker 7 (01:05:52):
It did not matter. Thunder just rolled past the Grizzlies.

Speaker 8 (01:05:56):
Jared Jackson Junior from Memphis two of thirteen for four
points Jahn Moran six of seventeen for seventeen points.

Speaker 7 (01:06:02):
So yeah, Game one, All Thunder still to come. A
lot of basketball.

Speaker 8 (01:06:06):
Game one Magic Celtics is tipping off any minute now,
so we'll see how this one ends up. We also
have hockey playoffs starting today. The Hurricanes have scored first
against the Devils. It's one zero halfway through the first period.
Plenty of baseball going on. The White Sox still edging
the Red Sox five to four bottom of the seventh inning.
The reds I mentioned earlier, had a seven run inning

(01:06:27):
in the third, led by an Elie Dela.

Speaker 7 (01:06:29):
Cruz home run.

Speaker 8 (01:06:30):
Well, they've kept going since then, so they're up on
the Orioles twelve to one. Top of the sixth inning.
The Guardians have extended their lead over the Pirates for one.
Bottom of the seventh, Marlin's on the scoreboard, but the
Philly is holding on for to bottom of the seventh.
In Philadelphia, the Braves have a six to two lead
over the Twins, also bottom of the seventh. It's the
sixth inning between the Mariners and the Blue Jays. Seattle

(01:06:51):
up six three. Royals and Tigers tied it to a
piece bottom of the seventh, Yankees added another run, things
to a solo shot from Cody Bellinger. So blanking the
Rays three zero bottom of the seventh, Mets up on
the Cardinals three to one, top of the seventh, while
the Brewers are blanking the A six zero bottom of
the fourth, Nationals blanking the Rockies. I mean everyone blanks
the Rockies three zero, bottom of the second and show

(01:07:14):
Heo Tani back in the lineup for the Dodgers after
a short paternity leave.

Speaker 7 (01:07:18):
Congratulations to the new father.

Speaker 8 (01:07:20):
But Dodgers and Rangers Mejay's Rangers scoreless bottom of the
fourth inning, so plenty of game less.

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
Yeah, good pitch and do it going on right now?

Speaker 7 (01:07:28):
Absolutely? Absolutely so yes.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
So show Hey Mamiko is so wife? Yeah, welcome a
little girl. Oh girl, we ran that story all night
on TV. I'm shows with the little feet.

Speaker 7 (01:07:41):
And then the little picture of the dog on the side.

Speaker 4 (01:07:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:07:43):
I literally have pictures of his dog on my phone
because someone gave this to me at work, stickers of
show Hay's dog, and I was like, I don't know
what to do with this, and I didn't want it
to like rip or bend, so I put it in
my phone to keep it, like, you know, straight, and
I haven't taken it off, and now it's just pictures
of show Hay's dog on my phone.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
Bigger LA star right now. As far as Luca our
show hey, you know, I think that's a.

Speaker 7 (01:08:03):
Really interesting question VJ.

Speaker 8 (01:08:05):
Because they're both international stars, so.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
That's actually taking over their friends, both.

Speaker 7 (01:08:11):
Taken over in very different ways. That's a good one.

Speaker 8 (01:08:15):
I'm gonna say show hey, though, really I'm gonna say
show hey. But great, great question.

Speaker 5 (01:08:21):
I will say this. This was this was funny last night.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
So I'm down at the TV station in La Here
and I walked into the newsroom and there were two
different news writers wearing doncic jersey.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
Yes, that's what I was about.

Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
Seventy seven jersey is red.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
Said the number one selling jersey. It is right jersey
and being there covering it up close and personal. I
did a postgame for Network one night. I just said
this this it feels organic like when Lebron got here.
It felt like where Lebron always goes. It's kind of
all scripted love right, scripted excitement, the luke of filling
the the energy in that building hasn't been like that

(01:08:59):
since Cod he was there. It's it's organic. I agree, organic,
it's not made up. It's like Luca, let me tell
you something, Luca don't really care much about it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:08):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
The press conference is he literally told us one night. Yeah,
I'd like to give you a short answer. He don't
want to sit there. He'll he'll give you, He'll let
twenty questions come. But every question you get about a
ten second answer.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:09:20):
It's not He's not falling fra aud of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
He just they got him early enough in his career,
you know, very much like Shock or they did with
Kareem where they got him early, like Hoby.

Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
You know they well, I mean, I'm not talking about lifers.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
I'm talking about guys they made trains for who had
a history with a you know, Koreem have been with
the Bucks for about six seven years. You know, Shock
obviously been with the Magic. But they played long enough
where you're like, all right, he's a Laker. You would
never do Lebron. No, Lebron was never going to be
a Laker. He was a Laker on loan. A high

(01:09:54):
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Shave Club. Yeah, the Raiders. You know, we're just talking
about again. Two choices, all right, got the sixth pick

(01:11:06):
in the draft, and so Vja says, if Chaudor Sanders
falls to six, take Shador Sanders. You have to don't
look back. I say, I would still take Ashton Genty
with a sixth pick in the draft. And then if
you get him second or even possibly third round, Jaylen Milroe,

(01:11:27):
I two for one.

Speaker 5 (01:11:28):
I remember how about this.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
Thou oh quarterback that's the problem.

Speaker 5 (01:11:33):
Well, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Two thousand and one, the San Diego Chargers had the
first pick in the draft. They made a trade and
Atlanta got the first pick and they took Michael Vick.
The Chargers dropped to five and they take Ladanian Tomlinson.
And then they had the first pick in the second
round and they drafted Drew Brees. Drew Brees and Ladanian

(01:11:58):
Tomlinson for Mike vic. Yeah, I mean two first ballot
Hall of famers. And I'm and I'm not, I'm a
big Michael Vick fan. But you add up Drew Brees
and Ladanian Tomlinson, That's that's a pretty good swap.

Speaker 4 (01:12:12):
Yeah. But then Drew Brees ends there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
And by the way, Drew Brees was a five. I
remember meeting Drew Brees right after the Chargers drafted him.
I'm looking this guy, I am thinking, okay, no chance.

Speaker 4 (01:12:23):
Yeah. But also so just real quick on the old
Drew Brees. They yeah, he was there in San Diego.
They get him and Thomlinson, but they shipped them out
of there because they drafted Philip Rivers, then Eli man
and then of course the trade for Philip Rivers. So
by the way, they weren't sold on him.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
But how about this, and so they made that they
drafted they had the number one pick, remember in the
four draft, and they and Eli Manning made Claire I
don't want any part of San Diego. So they they
draft him anyway, and then they make the trade with
the Giants. Uh, and they end up with Philip Rivers.
But think about this, if they kept Drew they could

(01:13:02):
have used their pick on Larry Fitzgerald. Imagine if you
had had Drew Brees, Larry Fitzgerald, Antonio Gates, and Ladanian
Tomlinson essentially all starting their careers together.

Speaker 5 (01:13:15):
You could have had that forceome together for I don't
know ten years.

Speaker 4 (01:13:20):
Nor would have still found a way to screw it.

Speaker 5 (01:13:22):
Of well, remember it was Marty, Marty's last year. They
were fourteen and they lost a hometown. That freaking play Mary.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
But they could have and they they gave up on
Breeze and if they kept him, they could have drafted
Larry Fitzgerald and had him with Gates and Ladamian Thomas.

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
Real quickly, back to the Raiders quarterback room. Okay, right now,
you you you can't Jalen Milroe, couldn't even I wouldn't
even start Jalen Milroe for with them right now? All right?
They they have Gino, so I wouldn't even start.

Speaker 5 (01:13:59):
Well, that's the whole point.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
You don't need him right now, and I obviously wouldn't
use a first round pick. But how long is Gino
going to be around?

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
Exactly? That's why he takes your door. That's why he
takes your door. If you're gonna take Okay, so you
take Jill and Mayroll, fine, that's gonna be your death.
You need a running back, that's your contingency. You're gonna
pass on Genty, say you can run. You know that
Genty is a step above any other running back in
this direct that's not even close. Right, it's not even close.
He could be a generational running back. Now, okay, let

(01:14:28):
me ask you this. Hell, if you the Giants, why
not take him in three? You got two quarterbacks? Why
not take him at three?

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
I screw if you're If you're asking me if I
were the Giants to take genty, my answer'll be yes,
take him.

Speaker 4 (01:14:40):
Last time you took a quarterback this how what did
he turn off to be?

Speaker 9 (01:14:42):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
Yeah, it just ran for two thousand yards for another
team and won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
So all right, I want to get into history being
made in the NBA. We have a ten c that
made the playoffs in the Miami Heat who made history
two years ago? Do it again against the Cavaliers. We're
gonna break down that series that get started today. This
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Speaker 5 (01:15:35):
He's a hockey guy, hardcore hockey guy.

Speaker 4 (01:15:38):
Hockey too as well.

Speaker 5 (01:15:39):
I know you do and I do too.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
So we're getting ready for the Stanley Cup playoffs as well.
So JP Morosi, he'll join us here in about twenty minutes.
We've been talking about these playoff games. The first one
today was an absolute laugher as we saw Oklahoma City
remind everybody we won sixty eight games this year. Hell

(01:16:00):
take it seriously, as the annihilated the Grizzlies by fifty one.
Right now, the Celtics and the Magic twenty one sixteen
Celtics should also.

Speaker 5 (01:16:10):
Win this series. It should be a sweep. I mean,
come on, now, we're.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
Talking about a five hundred Orlando Magic team against the Celtics,
winners of sixty one games. I will say this just
picking up where we left off before the top of
the hour. As far as the Celtics are concerned. If
I'm the NBA right now, I want the Celtics to win.
I've always felt in team sports and in individual sports,

(01:16:34):
dominance pays off because it gives you that lightning rod.

Speaker 5 (01:16:39):
The Chiefs have been this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
I mean, look at the Chiefs were like this complete,
very similar to the New England Patriots before Tom Brady
and Belichick. The Patriots were just a team, nothing, no history, nothing,
same thing with the Chiefs.

Speaker 5 (01:16:51):
I know they won a super Bowl back in.

Speaker 4 (01:16:52):
The day because they did it to the Super Bowl
with Drew Bileslo and Parcels.

Speaker 5 (01:16:55):
But they lost.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
You know, they had won anything. Chiefs had won Super
Bowl four. Nobody remembers that. But all change and it
was sort of new. You know Andy Reid, who doesn't
like Andy Reid? After years of you know, failing to
win a Super Bowl with the Eagles, he finally gets
over the hump. And then all of a sudden it
switches and the Chiefs suddenly go from a warm and
fuzzy to hated. We talked about the Golden State Warriors.

(01:17:21):
You know, when they broke in with the Splash Brothers,
it was fresh, it was new.

Speaker 5 (01:17:25):
Who couldn't like Steph Curry there?

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Yeah, and then all of a sudden, Kevin Durant showed up,
and all of a sudden, the Warriors went from loved
to hate it, hate it, And I think like the
Celtics that just said, there's nothing to really hate about
the Celtics team. They got quality individuals on that team.
They built from within. They did it the right way.
That's the way the Celtics built the team they have

(01:17:50):
right now.

Speaker 5 (01:17:51):
But give it time.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
I mean the Celtics rattle off two or three championships. Yeah,
you want to knock them off. Different champion every year
in the NBA does not work. This is what happened
years ago before all of a sudden. We had Lakers
Celtics battling in the eighties, Member six early on, so
back in the late seventies, had the SuperSonics one year,

(01:18:12):
he had the Bullets.

Speaker 5 (01:18:13):
One year, it was sort of the Blazers with Bill Walton.
One year. It was sort of a nondescript era. And
that's that's not good. You want dominant teams, dominant players.

Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
Isn't it great when you have a dominant Tiger Woods,
or you know, on tennis with a Federal or Djokovic,
a guy to talk about or target in on.

Speaker 5 (01:18:30):
I think it's always good for any sport.

Speaker 4 (01:18:32):
We always say we want that, and when we get it,
we complain We just talked about four straight finals of
the Warriors and the Cavs, right, I mean, we said
we want it, but when we get it, we complain
about it and back even to swing this back through
the tournament. Told we had that one time with the
expansion and the little guy and the little team, and
I've told you I was like, no, I don't care
about them, because at the end of the day, give
me the brand. We know the brand who wanted this

(01:18:54):
year in Florida, one of the best teams all year long,
Southwest whatever, whatever state's got no shots even in the
NBA playoffs in some of these other years, in these
playoffs some of these other teams. You know, it looks
good on paper, man, but when you put the two
teams on the court, Steve, like you know you should
That's why they played seven games. Serious, you should be
able to handle a team that you were just flat

(01:19:15):
out better than like you you should be able, you
should be able to do that. This this whole thing
of you know, a different champion winning every year.

Speaker 9 (01:19:25):
But don't you.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
Well we do.

Speaker 9 (01:19:31):
That.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
We killed that. Listen, Celtics Lakers ain't even what it
does no more. Man, It's just not we can try
to dress it up and we can say it. You
can say Lakers. It's not even let me ask you
this when has Lebron even made it a point to
this is not just another game, This is the Celtic's Well,
I always knew what this was. Magic always shocked. They

(01:19:53):
always when you put the purple and gold on. The
one thing you better hate is that right there, that's
on the screen in front of us, the green and white,
the one thing, like, you gotta beat them. Kolby even
said to itself, you gotta kind of win a championship
against them to kind of solidify yourself as a as
a as a Laker.

Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
The greatest thing that happened to the NBA was when
the Celtics beat the Lakers in eighty four. So the
member magic comes in. They won championship in nineteen eighty
beat the Sixers. They won another championship against the Sixers,
and eighty two they got swept by the Sixers eighty three.
In the interim, the Celtics did win a title against
the Houston Rockets when they had mos them along. Then

(01:20:30):
came nineteen eighty four and the Lakers look like the
better team. And then somehow, some way, Celtics played dirty
ball and the Lakers fell for it, and they got
out of their game, and the Celtics walk away with
a championship.

Speaker 5 (01:20:45):
That was such a dynamic.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
And then of course you had the rematch a year
later where the Lakers not only got revenge, but they
won it in the Garden Magics on Magics. And that was,
by the way, Jordan's rookie year with the Bulls. So
I mean, this was the explosion. I was in the
midst of all this where the NBA, and I'd always
been an NBA fan, but it was really an outlier sport.

Speaker 5 (01:21:06):
It really wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
It wasn't Major League Baseball, which was still king in
those days. The NFL obviously was gaining a lot of
traction college football, but that's what really put the NBA
on everybody's radar. And that comes down to rivalries and
then you look forward to, like you say, what's important
about getting teams back into the playoffs every year is

(01:21:28):
the fact that it's not the hardcore basketball fan, it's
the casual basketball fan, the casual sports fan that suddenly,
you know, with the Warriors and the final.

Speaker 5 (01:21:37):
Steph Curry, Steph Curry, Steph Curry.

Speaker 2 (01:21:39):
This is how Steph Curry suddenly went from just a
guy that you know, greatest shooter of all time to
like an icon, a true icon.

Speaker 5 (01:21:46):
Same thing to Lebron James.

Speaker 4 (01:21:48):
Casual fans don't want to see teams win championships. Casual
fans want to see certain players right win championships. So
let's see this.

Speaker 5 (01:21:57):
I saw the NBA rebranded themselves with Michael Jordan.

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
Yeah, so let's go back today. Let's start in the eighties.
In the eighties, right, who was that? Who was that
babyface quarterback that people maybe he didn't like his team,
but you're rooted for him. Joe Montana, Right, Joe Montana.
You kind of just wanted Joe Montana. Didn't matter about
Roger Craig being the first thousand, thousand yard thousand back,
And wasn't about Jerry Ronning, about Jerry Rice, what he be,
Tom rathm Brent Jones, any of those guys.

Speaker 5 (01:22:22):
Good about Dwight Clark. Dwy Clark back in the.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
Day, exactly, And that's the only thing they ever showed
from that man's career. And he had a career, but
that's the only thing that they show but it was
about Montana. Okay. So then we move into the late
eighties and early ninties, and then you get you get
you get a Brett Farr. You get a kid like
Brett Farr, and there weren't no real Packer fans, but
people were Brett far. They wanted to see Brett. He
was yeah, take yeah, they wanted to see. And then

(01:22:45):
and John Madden loved him because John Madden, that's a
joyan Mannicol. He's just he's just running around out there,
playing like a kid. He's just having fun out there.
Gun slinger, He's a gun sling.

Speaker 5 (01:22:56):
Can I stopped right there because you took off on
a tangent. I really love on this one.

Speaker 4 (01:23:00):
VJA.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
You mentioned John Madden. I've said this in all the
years that I have followed sports, there are only three
media people that I really feel moved the needle, like
they were the reason you were watching as opposed to
the game. The first one was Howard Cosella, Money and
high football. So sella money night football. It didn't matter

(01:23:21):
the game. You just wanted to hear, whether you loved
him or hate him, you want to hear what he
had to saying. John Madden was absolutely that in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (01:23:28):
And right, hell, don't tell me that. I want to
try to guess if you can just give me a
sport what it's basketball, mar Albert. No, no, no, no,
I'm not talking about play by play. Oh I'm talking
about chocolate color guys. Okay color.

Speaker 5 (01:23:41):
So I'm talking about people that you want to hear
what they have to really want to hear. Barkley is
that guy. And here's the thing you just talked about.

Speaker 2 (01:23:49):
John Madden was such a positive for the NFL, right,
I mean he he had everything. He had relatability, had credibility.
He was a guy that also was a huge champion
for the NFL. He could take obscure players and make
them stars overnight. Nate Newton always talked about this when
he made the All Madden Team, and he was he
was a guard for the Cowboys, just you know, some

(01:24:11):
guy in the middle. No one ever even heard of
the guy, and all of a sudden, Madden puts him
on his All Madden team.

Speaker 5 (01:24:15):
Everyone knows Nate noon he goes. He changed my entire life.

Speaker 2 (01:24:19):
And now this has been the criticism of the NBA
that Charles has in some ways almost turned on the NBA,
there's been you know, instead of champion, the obvious talent
we see. I'm watching I'm watching that game yesterday between
the Lakers and the Tea Wolves, and there were some
there were some sloppy basketball, but there was also stretches

(01:24:42):
where guys are just knocking down shots. Or I'm watching
this Clippers, you know, Nuggets series, and it's like, there's
some really good basketball, some really incredible players in this league,
and a guy like Barkley has so much control of
the narrative.

Speaker 5 (01:25:00):
I mean, is it two negative? I mean you could
say it's honest.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
Yeah, I don't think he turned his back on the NBA.
I think he's just telling the truth about the product
flow of a league that he's been part of. When
you think about it, Barkin has been part of the
NBA for about forty years, right, forty years over forty years.
Right came in to the league in eighty four. I
want to say, was he's drafted in eighty four?

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Can I give you a quick side note? So, my
longtime partner back in the day was a guy named
Philly Billy Warndell. Before he became a co host with me,
he was a TV Philadelphia sports producer back in the
seventies and eighties, and when Barkley was drafted by the Sixers,
they had Doctor J who's one of the nicest, gentlemanly
people you'll ever meet in any lifetime. And then you
had Moses Malone, who was not exactly the most articulate

(01:25:40):
person in the league. So the Sixer reporters, it's Philadelphia, right,
this is a hard court. We could either talk to
mister nice guy all day long, Doctor J, or we're
gonna get a guy that doesn't talk. And Mosa Malosa
had this rookie and they at first he wasn't that guy,
but they like encouraged him. They're like, you know, give
us something in here, and they he said, you wouldn't

(01:26:02):
have believed where he started. But he claims the Philadelphia
media really created the man we see today in Charles.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
Bark Yeah, no, Charles, I mean Charles is Charles bark
I tell people all the time. People also forget how
great of a player, oh, Charles Barkley was. But when
you when you talk about guys moving the needle, I
don't I don't mind those three, but you're talking about color.
That's why I throw Marv Albert out there. But you're talking, uh,
you're talking color. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that. That's pretty

(01:26:29):
that's pretty dead on. I don't I don't think I'm
trying to go through color guys in my head real fast.
There's a couple of baseball guys. But I think I'm
a late bloomer with that. I mean, Harrold Reynolds, Oh
mass Smolts.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
I'm talking about guys that you were the game most games,
ninety nine point of the games you're watching because of
the matchup of the game you're not watching. About the announcers,
I mean, the announcers usually can only make it worse,
but you know they're.

Speaker 4 (01:26:54):
An announcers guy, I am. I'm weirdly like that. There
are some games like I love the Fowler and her
Street on Sorry Night college football for the twenty years
they I agree with you, I love.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
That, But then you watch again and again when when
you're watching herb Street with al Michaels.

Speaker 4 (01:27:08):
It doesn't Bill, it doesn't built all no, no, no,
no no.

Speaker 6 (01:27:11):
No, I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:27:13):
Even even even Michael's on Thursday Night. Yeah, feels weird.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
Well, it's I mean, I could get all start on
the album anyway, all right, coming up on the other side.

Speaker 5 (01:27:25):
Oh by the way, by the way, quicker minder.

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Speaker 5 (01:28:08):
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(01:29:03):
Stanley Cup playoffs underway shortly. The Great John Palmer Rose
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JP in the upcoming week, so brace yourself for those conversations.
But last night I was making light of the Kings
taking on the Oilers for the fourth consecutive year in

(01:29:24):
the playoffs, only the second time in NHL history, the
two teams have faced each other four consecutive years in
the playoffs.

Speaker 5 (01:29:32):
So that's kind of stuff we'll get into down the road.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
But I want to throw a name out at you
to start off today's show talking about Major League Baseball,
and his name is Aaron Judge. Aaron Judge right now
is hitting three ninety seven. He has a five ZHO
five on base percentage. He has an ops of twelve
thirty six. He has seven home runs, He has twenty
five runs batted in in twenty one games. We have

(01:29:58):
seen over the last couple of years that he has
fulfilled the promise that we saw with that miraculous rookie
season I had way back in twenty seventeen.

Speaker 5 (01:30:06):
He's thirty two years old, not getting any younger.

Speaker 2 (01:30:09):
But when it's all said and done, what do you
predict This's going to be the legacy of Aaron Judge,
one of the.

Speaker 6 (01:30:16):
Greatest Yankees ever. And that is certainly not a stretch
to say. You look at first of all, he's got
the American League single season home run record, so he
passes Maris and so he stands alone one of the
most hallowed records in the history of Major League Baseball,
So that's number one. The other thing, though, that I

(01:30:37):
would point out, is that as great as that season
was in twenty twenty two, you look at what he
did last year, and actually his numbers last year were better.
He had a better OPS, better slugging percentage, better batting
average last year than he did in twenty twenty two.
He came within four home runs of equaling what he

(01:30:59):
had done back in twenty twenty two. And when you
reflect on that, if this were thirty years ago, when
you think back on the way that we even looked
at Griffy's chase potentially for sixty in the strike short
in the year in ninety four, we were all over
that as a national media group. That was a massive story.

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And he got fifty eight last year and it didn't
even create as much of a story as as should have.
And he's playing for the New York Yankees as their captain.
He's the captain of USA Baseball in the next World
Baseball Classic. So I think there is this instinct Steven VJ.
To look back at players who were playing back when

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the TV broadcasts either didn't exist or existed only in
black and white, and you're talking about Ruth and Garrig
and Manselin DiMaggio. What I'm here to tell you is
that Aaron Judges putting together seasons that those guys never
ever did. And that right there should tell you all
you need to know about someone who I think quite

(01:32:02):
candidly will and I hesitate to use the word easy,
but the pace is easy for him, that they's easily
gonna get beyond five hundred homers, and certainly he's got
a shot to get this six hundred before all said done.

Speaker 4 (01:32:16):
JP VJ. Verner Husky here, Happy Easter to you and
your lovely family. If you got separated, man, and bless
us to everybody back where you are. Let's jump back here,
no problem, brother, Let's jump out here to the NL
West where we are out here, lovely Los Angeles. This
thing is kind of tight. I know it's still earlier,
but d Bags Giants, the Dodgers are just half a game.

(01:32:36):
The Padres, who I've heard Dodger fans say that they felt,
you know, could have beaten the Dodgers last year, had
a better team. Dodgers just were able to pull off
this series. The Padres I want to focus on because
they're at a plus thirty four and run differentialition means
they're they're beating up on people twelve and one at home.
Is this something that we can see long term?

Speaker 5 (01:32:55):
Why or why not?

Speaker 4 (01:32:56):
This season for the Padres VJ, I believe.

Speaker 6 (01:32:59):
That we're going to see three teams in the postseason
from the National League West. And that may sound like
a lot, but we actually had three AL Central teams
in the dance last year. We had three NL East
teams in the dance last year. In the new format,
and of course with the more balanced schedule, it's a

(01:33:19):
little easier for you to get three playoff teams from
a single division. So I do believe that we're going
to see that. Part of the reason is that Fernando
Tatis Junior right now is playing like an MVP.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Now.

Speaker 6 (01:33:32):
I don't know if he's going to necessarily finish ahead
of Otani in the voting this year. It's still awfully early.
But when you think about someone like Tatis, who and
let's see when Otani's back on the mound, how much
success he has once he gets there. I think that's
all still an open question. But right now, Tatis is
playing an above average right field. Defensively, he's got an
amazing arm out there, really athletic, and he's leading off.

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He's batting three point fifty one with a six thirty
six slug So he's basically putting up Ricky Anderson leadoff
type numbers offensively while playing an elite right field and
leading a team to a fifteen and six record. They've
basically been unbeatable at home. And Machado of course, is

(01:34:18):
playing really well too, and he's batting right in the
middle of that lineup, batting third. And you've got a
Rayahs batting second, who I think has made a really
big impact. Gavin Sheets has emerged somewhat surprisingly to take
on a pretty big role. I would expect that Aj Prother,
their president of baseball Operations, will be active at the
deadline as he typically is, and so they'll get better,

(01:34:39):
I believe between now in August and September. So I'm
a big believer in the Podres. I think the Giants
are for real. I really like the work that they've
done with how Buster Posey has really put his imprint
on that team so far this year. So I'm a
big believer in the NLS teams that are not named
the Dodgers.

Speaker 4 (01:34:59):
Obviously.

Speaker 6 (01:35:00):
I'm a big believer in the Dodgers too, But we
haven't even talked about the Diamondbacks yet. I mean, they're
an excellent team too, Giaso, Yeah, exactly so so Giants,
d Backs, Padres, Dodgers. I think you've got four teams
that are labeled as contenders right now. The Rockies are not,
but the other four certainly are. And I think we're
going to see a really compelling National League West race

(01:35:21):
during the course of the season.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
It is my opinion that Bob Melvin is one of
the most underrated managers in Major League history. I mean,
when you look at what he did with those Oakland teams,
it actually blows your mind. But when he came to
San Diego JP his first year with the Podres, I
will never forget this because the year before they had

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burned through their bullpen early and they had no gas
left in the attach in the end of the year.
And over the first couple of months of his first
season the pod Race, he was telling these starting pitchers,
you're not going less than five. You're not going less
than five. I don't care if you've given up seven runs.

Speaker 5 (01:35:58):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
We are going to get innings out of our starters.
And by season's and when they face the Dodgers in
the playoffs, what happened the pattery bullpen dominated the Dodgers.
I say that because with the Giants right now, you
got Justin Verlander who's trying to find himself right now,
and in his last couple of starts, they've not been pretty.
I mean, he's got a six to seventy five r

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but you know what he got into the sixth inning
and both those starts. Yeah, he's given up a lot
of hits, he given up a lot of runs, but
he will refuse to give in to the idea that
we're going to burn through our bullpen. I mean, the Dodgers'
bullpen has already accumulated more bullpen innings than any other
team in Major League Baseball. I just wish there were
more managers that understood the way I look at it,

(01:36:42):
how to handle starting pitchers, demanding innings out of my
starting pitchers and not completely gassing my bullpen by mid season.

Speaker 6 (01:36:51):
That's a great point, Steve, and I think there's there
has to be a real link between the way that
Bob wants to use his rotation and the type of
players that the GM is bringing in. And I do
believe in San Francisco there's a little bit more of
a simpatico feeling between him and Zach Manazien, who's the GM,

(01:37:12):
and of course Buster Posey was the president of Baseball Operations.
I think they are all more aligned than he was
in San Diego about what types of pitchers he wants.
And you're right, I think that one of the hardest things.
And I know different managers and people in the game
have said this, and my mentor John Lowe shared this
with me. One of the hardest things to manage and

(01:37:34):
baseball is an aging star and that's what Verlander is.
So how you handle him going forward is going to
be a really challenging thing for Bob Melbourne. But I
think you're really hitting on an important helmet of Bob's career.
Just as you're asking the question, I just made sure
I had this confirmed. He's taken basically in twelve different seasons.

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Twelve he has had twelve winning seasons in Major League
Baseball as a manager. Twelve. That is a lot. He
has had eight different postseasons that he has been a
part of and right now he's certainly on his way
to having another what would be the thirteenth winning season
in the history of his career. So someone who has

(01:38:15):
had a lot of success. And by the way, if
he gets to the playoffs with the Giants, that's going
to be the fourth different organization that he's brought to
the postseason. That is the realm of some legends. Davy Johnson,
Billy Martin, Dusty Baker's done it, but very very few
managers have done that in the history of the game.
So I think Bob Melvin is getting some deserved praise.

(01:38:36):
And you look at that division, and for me, Dave
Robertson he's going to be in the Hall of Fame.
Bob Melvin potentially has a shot at it, just based
on how young he still is. He's sixty three, which
for me is still in the life of the manager,
is very young. He's got a chance to do this
for another decade or so and maybe win a couple
championships in the mix. And I think Mike Schiltz done

(01:38:56):
a great job with the Pidres. Toy Devello is excellent
there in Air. So I think that division, you've got
a lot of really good tacticians and a lot of
really good communicators Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
As well, absolutely and three time manager of the Year
as well. I'm just a big mob Melvin fan.

Speaker 5 (01:39:11):
All Right, we're gonna say the hockey talk.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
I know the playoffs are getting started here, We're gonna
save it for next week, get a few of the
Stanley Cup playoff games under our belt, and then we're
breaking it down with you.

Speaker 5 (01:39:20):
JP.

Speaker 2 (01:39:21):
As always, enjoy your Easter Sunday, and we will talk
to you next week.

Speaker 6 (01:39:27):
Half Eastern to you both here. I thought I was
gonna be able to come on the air and talk
about the Pistons victory over the Knicks.

Speaker 3 (01:39:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:39:33):
But then, but then, my friends, then the fourth quarner,
the fourth quarner, run man playing a little bit twenty
one nothing run Yes, the next just they shot the
ball really well and the Pistons did not. No.

Speaker 5 (01:39:48):
Yeah, uh, it's only one game, best of seven. That's
why they have seven games.

Speaker 6 (01:39:53):
I'm excited.

Speaker 4 (01:39:54):
I still gain one though.

Speaker 6 (01:39:55):
Hi, JP, thanks so much, Thanks so much, guys, I
appreciate Easter.

Speaker 5 (01:39:59):
John Paul Morosi, let's find out what is a treading?

Speaker 4 (01:40:03):
Right now?

Speaker 5 (01:40:04):
Moncey is uh, well, this game's a lot better than
the first game.

Speaker 7 (01:40:09):
It's you took the words right out of my mouth. Yes,
way easier to sit through this game.

Speaker 8 (01:40:15):
You know, I know Orlando is not expected to win,
but I like watching Orlando play. Polo Rio is like,
I love it, and you know, I know I call
me crazy, but he Isn't he a little LEBRONI like
in this He's a big dude that can move, that
has like I love watching Paolo van Cao. And they

(01:40:36):
are giving Boston a run for their money right now.
It's plenty. It's plenty early, guys. But we're about a
minute away from halftime and Orlando is up forty nine
to forty six.

Speaker 7 (01:40:45):
Boston went on a little run in the second quarter.
They took the lead, but Orlando composed themselves.

Speaker 8 (01:40:50):
They called the time out after Peyton Pritchet hit a
coup of threes off the bench, called the time out,
composed themselves, have taken the lead, and here they are again,
about less minute before we go into halftime. Paalo Bancaro
nineteen points four Orlando. The league scorer for Boston is
Derek White, He's got fourteen points. But off the bench,
Peyton Pritchard has eleven points, so we'll see how this

(01:41:12):
one ends. The first game a total snooze fest and
is because the thunder crushed the Grizzlies. One thirty one
to eighty was the finals score. Chad Holgern led the
way with the double double nineteen points, ten rebounds, Shake
Gildos Alexander four of thirteen, fifteen points, five assists.

Speaker 7 (01:41:27):
But it's all right. They won by fifty one, so
Shay had nothing to worry about. In Major League Baseball,
it's it's not a typo. But the Reds are up
on the Orioles.

Speaker 5 (01:41:36):
Twenty one two, twenty one, twenty.

Speaker 7 (01:41:39):
One to shoo.

Speaker 8 (01:41:40):
Yeah, yeah, I think at this point, I don't know
who's pitching for the Orioles. Probably one of their infielders.

Speaker 4 (01:41:47):
Yeah, I don't know what.

Speaker 9 (01:41:49):
I know.

Speaker 7 (01:41:50):
And it wasn't like this.

Speaker 8 (01:41:52):
I mentioned it earlier that had a seven run inning
and that's kind of where it all started, and they've
never looked back. Twenty one to two, top of the
ninth inning. It's in Baltimore, so we still have a
whole nother inning to go.

Speaker 7 (01:42:03):
Just call it a game.

Speaker 5 (01:42:04):
Just call it a game.

Speaker 8 (01:42:04):
It's the bottom of the ninth inning. In Philadelphia and
the Marlins are on top seven five. It's been back
and forth between those two. Miami is up right now
and the Mariners just defeated the Blue Jays eight to three,
bottom of the seventh inning. With the Brewers on top
of the A's twelve to one top of the third,
Cubs on the scoreboard first against.

Speaker 7 (01:42:20):
The Diamondbacks yep, one zero.

Speaker 8 (01:42:22):
The Dodgers and the Rangers still scoreless. It's the bottom
of the seventh inning in Texas. The Nationals have a
three to two lead over the Rockies in game one
of their double header. It's in Colorado, bottom of the
sixth inning, top of the third inning with the Giants
and the Angels.

Speaker 7 (01:42:34):
They are scoreless.

Speaker 8 (01:42:35):
Victories for the White Sox and the Guardians, who took
down the Pirates and ten innings. In Pittsburgh, the Braves
had a six to two victory over the Twins and
the Royals took down the Tigers four three in ten innings,
while the Yankees shut out the Rays for zero and
the Mets did beat the Cardinals seven to four. Juan
Soto not too bad today, two for three and three
RBIs hey not too chevy?

Speaker 5 (01:42:57):
How much money the Mets give them.

Speaker 7 (01:42:59):
Way too much. Absolutely, wait too much. He misses the Yankees.
It's it's just yeah, but it's early, it's early.

Speaker 5 (01:43:06):
He's Soda is one of those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
I mean, if you look at his numbers, obviously this
guy is an elite player. I mean, guy's got monster numbers.
But when he was in San Diego, it just I'm sorry.
I mean I was more focused on Tatis or Machado.
It didn't he didn't have that whatever. It is like,
you know, you've got to see him at the plate.

Speaker 8 (01:43:28):
Yeah, and I think it has maybe to do with
his personality a little bit as well.

Speaker 5 (01:43:32):
Like I agree with you, it is quirky.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
I mean it's like, you know, if if Aaron Judges
of the play gotta watch show him, I gotta watch.

Speaker 7 (01:43:38):
This guy right right, Like Fernando Tattoos, It's like I
don't want to watch, but I'm gonna.

Speaker 5 (01:43:41):
I'm gonna watch, you know, I want to see what
he does. If one Sodo just doesn't do that, it's weird.

Speaker 8 (01:43:47):
But you're right, and it has nothing to do with
his numbers and the performance. I think it's the X
factor that we talked about that he's just not there.

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
This is what we go.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
I mean, I'm gonna go old school, back to Reggie Jackson.
I mean, you look at Reggie Jackson. The only career
record he holds a strikeouts. Okay, but he put butts
in seats. See Reggie Jackson put butts in seats. You
wanted to see Reggie Jackson. You know, show Hey puts
butts in seats.

Speaker 4 (01:44:14):
Every time Showy swings the bat, it's almost like Steph
Curry taking the three pointer. You're like, he's gonna get
a hit, He's gonna get I think he's going to
hit a home run.

Speaker 5 (01:44:21):
Did you see that home run that show him? Is
that thing landed?

Speaker 4 (01:44:25):
It's past just a hit. Yeah, I'm saying Derek Jeter
was a hit. Like every time, every time Derek Jeter
got to play, you just think. But that's always the question.
When I'm paying a player huge money, I'm banking on
he's going to be good for my business.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
In other words, people will pay to see him, right,
he will pay the seat. See that's the way baseball
was in the early days, long before free agency. You
paid Mickey Mantle, you paid Willie Mays because those are
the guys that put butts in seats. You didn't pay
your two ninety hitting second basement big money because now

(01:45:02):
everybody get to the big money and you're like, how
many guys? Actually you can say I would pay to
see him?

Speaker 4 (01:45:09):
It's like that in all sports, though, because look at
it is. Look at Rudy Gober's contract. Hey, boys and girls,
you don't even have to average eleven points and you
could sign a two hundred million dollar contract.

Speaker 5 (01:45:18):
How many people are walking in if you rebound? How many?
How many people walk to a te Wolves? Who are
you here to see Rudy go?

Speaker 4 (01:45:25):
How many go Bear jerseys you think are at a
Tables home game?

Speaker 6 (01:45:29):
Come?

Speaker 8 (01:45:29):
Not one?

Speaker 5 (01:45:30):
Actually?

Speaker 7 (01:45:30):
Not One's so twenty four? Now for the Reds, twenty
four runs?

Speaker 5 (01:45:34):
Okay, twenty forty four.

Speaker 7 (01:45:36):
Still they're still playing. They're still playing.

Speaker 5 (01:45:37):
You gotta get to thirty. That'd be something a players.

Speaker 2 (01:45:40):
All right, Another one, thank you, min Another one, thank you,
another one, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:45:46):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
Once again, we are alive from the tyrag dot com studios.
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(01:46:08):
football Hall of Famer LeVar Arrington, and Fox Sports League
College football reporter Jenny Tapp will have you covered for
all thirty two bigs of predictions and reactions. That's Thursday
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live right here in Fox Sports Radio with a live
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you by ship Station. Let me ask you this, VJ.

(01:46:28):
When it comes to the draft. Sure, do you do
your own mock draft?

Speaker 4 (01:46:33):
Yes? Absolutely, I have a love draft show.

Speaker 6 (01:46:35):
I know you do.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
Yeah, I loved so you will have a Now do
you do this like you say you do? Multiple brackets
for no, No, not just one of my draft. One
mock draft, one mock draft.

Speaker 4 (01:46:46):
It'll be finished up by Wednesday night. I just go
through and I make the trades. Like I think someone's
moving up, someone's moving out. I just don't think the
top ten sits still somebody's gonna move out.

Speaker 5 (01:46:56):
Well, it always does.

Speaker 4 (01:46:57):
But there's gonna it's just nobody this year is just
picking who's gonna do it correctly and then what player
do you think they're doing it for? So yeah, I
mean listen, when you do this as much as we do,
you put together a mock draft, like it's always funny
to be people who hate them. It's like if you
hate them, they don't look at well.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
What would you say then if what is your usual scorecard?
Not necessarily well?

Speaker 5 (01:47:19):
How many? How many? Okay, I forget just you know players?

Speaker 2 (01:47:23):
How many players out of thirty two in the first
round you say you predicted to be a first round pick,
regardless of the team that end up being first round.

Speaker 4 (01:47:31):
I mean, I like, if I get too I like,
if I can at least get half of them in there?

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
Yeah yeah, if I can get sexon on this, I
get fifteen sixteen guys, I laugh on people, So oh,
I got like twenty eight out of thirty.

Speaker 4 (01:47:41):
You did well, and you know what, listen whatever if
you did okay, cool, well I could see whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:47:46):
Like you know, it's sort of like we have years
like where you script the first fifteen plays of the game, right,
and it's pretty close, right, and then forget it.

Speaker 4 (01:47:54):
Yeah. No, I when I coached high school football in
this passion, it only takes we scripped our first ten plays.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
It only takes one team to take someone out of order. Yes,
and then it's a domino offect.

Speaker 5 (01:48:06):
It happens every year.

Speaker 4 (01:48:08):
Whoever moves up and moves down should door standers is
the lynch pick for the first fifteen picks.

Speaker 5 (01:48:12):
All right, So I'm going to.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
Get some insight from VJ on what to expect when
we get to Thursday. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve
Harbin and VJ Husky Fox Sports Sunday. We're live from
the tire rack dot Com Studios. Want to thank our
crew today. Montsey brilliant as always. I'm a very busy
scoreboard day. Absolutely, Chris. Yes, are you ready for the

(01:48:37):
NFL Draft?

Speaker 4 (01:48:39):
I am.

Speaker 3 (01:48:39):
I have been doing a ton of research and unlike
last year, we will have a Pride to Detroit stream
for the first two nights.

Speaker 5 (01:48:46):
So I'm very excited to get back to this. It's
a very fun night.

Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
I get to touch up with a lot of people
I know, talk about a lot of stuff through it,
and as I said, it's not it's not a terribly
exciting draft at the top. But if you're a trenches
guy like me, you like the big bev boys, Yeah,
it is a very fun draft, and I think I
think what it means is that if you're someone who's
deep in the draft, like the rest of the top fifty,

(01:49:10):
top one hundred, there's gonna be a lot of drama
and a lot of guys in places you don't expect
them to be in The draft should be fun night.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
I still think if you're only in the quarterbacks, I
still think there's a lot to be said about Shudor Sander.
Sure you got Jackson Dart, about Jaylen Milrow, I mean,
wore these guys guys drop it rise.

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
I mean even on the edge questions like I love
Shamar Stewart, but I can't get a consensus. You know,
I talk with Brandon in the back, and I can't
get a consensus now and then, because you look at
what Shamar did. He's amazing, he's athletic, he does a
bunch of pressures. But some people only look at the
four see the four and a half sacks three years
at A and M, and they just lose their mind.
It's like, no, no, that's a red flag. Yeah, but

(01:49:50):
it just it's created a lot of different interesting questions
about this draft.

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
The year after year with the draft, we have the
can't miss guys that miss and other guys are saying, oh, man,
and you're reaching for that guy and the guy turns
out to be a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 3 (01:50:03):
Then you find someone really fun in the third round
and that's on day three late.

Speaker 5 (01:50:07):
Well, that's where you earn your money.

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
That's where you earn your money if you're a talent evaluator.
And of course, speaking of talent, Patrick, oh you Patrick,
we have missed you.

Speaker 5 (01:50:18):
Patrick.

Speaker 2 (01:50:18):
I mean, Patrick is one of those rising stars in
the building. Is like shuffle them around and doing this,
doing that, and we've missed you.

Speaker 5 (01:50:26):
Patrick.

Speaker 9 (01:50:27):
Well, I'm glad. I'm glad to be back. I'm glad
to see you guys faces again. It's it's been it's
been a minute. But hey, I've been holding it down
elsewhere on Saturdays and Sundays, you know, with Andy Furman
and with the countdown guys, it's like I've been holding mown.

Speaker 2 (01:50:42):
I look at it this way, Patrick, Remember where you
cut your teeth, Remember where you cutch you you always
do every day. Thank you and by the way, all
the best of your dad. Yeah, always always a big
time all right, So VJ, let's let's talk about Thursday.

Speaker 5 (01:50:54):
So how does this work for you?

Speaker 4 (01:50:55):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:50:55):
Of course you'll be listening here at Fox Sports Radio
or watching the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel with all
of our analysts breaking it all down. But let's let's
go into the world of VJ. Husky. It's Draft night.
We're about to get things started.

Speaker 5 (01:51:09):
Roger Goodell in green Bay, Green Bay, Wisconsin, hosting this
year's draft, which is find Yeah, it's still kind of cold, Yeah,
a little bit cold. I don't know if you've been
to Green Bay. I went there one time.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
It was the opening game of the eighty seventh season
when I worked for the Raiders. The weather was beautiful
when I was there, and it just, I mean, there's
only one thing in town. It's the Packers. There's not
much else in Green Bay. It's all about the Packers.
But how are you going to settle in? You're going
to have your list in front of you. Yes, to
start checking off names.

Speaker 4 (01:51:37):
Ye, I'll listen in front of me, start checking off names.
Some teams moving the Dolphin, even my beloved Dolphins. At thirteen,
I would like to see them trade out of that
pick and slide back and probably gain some more draft capital.
We need a corner and with Tehron Armstead retiring, I
spoke to him a week ago, so I gave him
a call and congratulate them on a season and did

(01:52:00):
the offensive the tackle position has to be address. You
have Banks right there from Texas. I think sure it
fits for him. I think he's a plug and play guy.
But you got to figure out this offensive line that's
been a problem for the last five or six years,
and it's just hasn't gotten better even though you've drafted
and you've spent money on.

Speaker 5 (01:52:17):
Is it different when you have a left handed quarterback.

Speaker 4 (01:52:19):
Probably is, But you still need the guys to be
able to block up front, hold hold off blitzers, and
hold off and and hold off defenders. And then still,
of course, I just think somebody moves up. I just
don't think the top ten or the top eleven stays
past giants moving out. I can see Jacksonville sliding on.

Speaker 5 (01:52:35):
What about Cleveland.

Speaker 2 (01:52:36):
I just I just get a sense because remember the
buzz out of Indianapolis at the combine, is that the
Titans were you know, basically asking anybody interested in moving
up to number one, and then all of a sudden
it's like, oh, okay, we're locked into Campbell, go.

Speaker 4 (01:52:51):
Do camp worse pro day and they leave his pro
day going oh, you know wow, but okay, so that's
the clean act two. Go ahead? Uh, I mean already
told you what I would do if I were him.
I to cut DeShawn Watson maybe a month ago, and
just cut the check and then start all over with
the quarterback. I just don't think there's a player that
you can get other than a quarterback that you need
right now that can change what next year is going

(01:53:13):
to be.

Speaker 5 (01:53:13):
Right, they've done pretty much with the Giants dead, and
then they bring Flacco.

Speaker 4 (01:53:16):
Back and yeah, fly, yeah, it's a fact and isn't
as Mitchell Trubisky also there? Ye, So so you have DeShawn,
you have Trubisky, and then you have Flaco.

Speaker 2 (01:53:25):
So basically two teams that two and three just threw
a bunch of you know, driftwood on their quarterback position
without really addressing the future of their quarterback position and
their should do Sanders. So ultimately, what is your prediction
which team will draft Shouldure Sanders.

Speaker 5 (01:53:44):
I want it on the record right now. VJ. Husky,
Which team will draft should Sanders?

Speaker 4 (01:53:53):
Can I give two teams, but you can give me
a one A, one B. One A would be when
it would be the Saints they move up. One B
would be alone my long shot as the Red they
have They have Gino and they just gave Geno an extension,
so you know she does not gonna want to go
nowhere and have to sit for a year or even two, right,

(01:54:14):
I mean somewhere we can play right now. Wouldn't be
the worst then, yeah, but it will also wuldn't be
the worst thing. If you go to the Saints, they
move up and you let him and Spencer battle it out.
Derek Carr's not gonna play, and you sign a veteran
it's the third guy to back them up for the
second guy. And she do is your starn quarterback. If
you draft him, you got a star Wars Light Tennessee.
If you're gonna take cam wardon and one overall, ken
Ward's starrn quarterback opening.

Speaker 5 (01:54:33):
The day, Travis Hunter with the Giants or the Patriots.

Speaker 4 (01:54:36):
I let Travis Hunter to the Browns numbers, so I
just think you can't they can't pass up on him.

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
See how everyone keeps making this big point about him
playing both ways. He can play spot duty at wide receiver.
To me, his value is as a.

Speaker 5 (01:54:49):
Corner if you have and Dione Sanders knows this.

Speaker 2 (01:54:54):
Remember Deon, You remember the one year in nineteen ninety
six he caught thirty six passes for the cow Voiceboards,
but he only had one touchdown.

Speaker 5 (01:55:02):
He wasn't that dynamic of a wide receiver, even as sister.

Speaker 4 (01:55:05):
Shaw Johnson one hundred one catches one touchdown came it.

Speaker 5 (01:55:07):
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