This Podcast is for consumer lenders who want to grow their affiliate marketing programs. It’s hosted by Carlos Caro, a successful marketing agency founder and former fintech executive. Prior to founding New Market Growth, Carlos was a General Manager and Head Of Business Development at Credit Karma, Head of Customer Acquisition at Caribou, and a former leader in Capital One’s credit card business. NMG focuses on helping lenders build and optimize affiliate programs, and Carlos is here to share how to do it yourself. Subscribe to this Podcast to hear from Carlos and other industry leaders as they demystify what it takes to win the affiliate marketing game.
We explore how fintech lenders could revolutionize customer acquisition by partnering with AI-powered finfluencers, alleviating current concentration in affiliate marketplaces.
Key TopicsThe Current Problem: 30-70% of fintech lender volume comes from affiliate marketplaces, creating concentration risk. Lenders spend $4B-$6B annually on affiliate mark...
We sit down with Alana Levine, Chief Revenue Officer at Fintel Connect, to uncover what financial institutions get wrong when launching affiliate marketing programs—and more importantly, how to get it right from day one.
As someone who lives in the trenches and is often the first call when lenders want to activate the affiliate channel, Alana shares h...
We sit down with Kirill Klokov, CEO of Truv, to break down everything lenders need to know about income verification providers.
Vetting Income Verification Vendors
Rich Walker is back! After our first direct mail episode became the most popular episode on the show, we're back for round 2.
The 10 DM Pitfalls We Discuss1. Attribution Nightmares
People get your mail, then go to Credit Karma to respond. Your CFO freaks out about "paying twice" but that's just how the channel...
I sat down with John Henson, a fintech-savvy lawyer who formerly worked at LendingTree (both as an attorney and a general manager). He unpacks the regulatory chaos swirling around lead generation in 2025 — what’s changed, what’s still risky, and how fintech marketers can navigate it without getting burned.
In today's discussion:I explain positive and adverse selection in lending using recruiting as an analogy. If you've ever hired someone, you'll instantly understand why your channels, pricing, and process determine your loan portfolio quality.
Key TakeawaysThe Big Idea: Attracting great borrowers works exactly like hiring great people.
I talk about a surprising case study where a lending product thrived in one affiliate marketplace but completely flopped in another. We explore the key differences between marketplaces that can dramatically impact performance and provide actionable insights for fintech marketers.
Key InsightsMarketers sometimes like to enter new channels gradually, conservatively even. This works in many channels like paid search, social, and direct mail.
But for fintechs, entering new affiliate channels like this can have catastrophic consequences.
In today's Podcast, I share why entering into new affiliate marketplaces "cautiously" can be dangerous for new entrants. I'll walk you through how to play the game in reverse.
We chat with Colin about how AI is changing marketplaces.
His thesis: “The rise of agentic AI will transform marketplaces from passive aggregators to active facilitators of transactions.”
To learn more, check out Colin’s take on how AI will revolutionize marketplaces: https://www.gardinercolin.com/p/ai-and-marketplaces-agent-led
About Colin Gardiner
Former econo...
We sit with credit card expert Jason Steele about what's happening behind the scenes in the industry. Jason shares how he went from tech work to becoming a respected credit card authority who writes for major publications and runs CardCon, the credit card industry conference.
We discuss:
LendAPI lets you create application flows, credit decision engines, and complete lending products through simple drag-and-drop tools—all without hiring engineers or spending millions.
You can build and launch lending products quickly and efficiently, then use a working product to raise venture capital. Even non-financial businesses like boat dealerships are using it to replace clunky Excel-based applicat...
In this episode, I catch up with my old Columbia PhD classmate Guru Sethupathy, founder of FairNow, an AI governance platform for financial services.
About AI Governance:
In this episode, we speak with Greg Cox, CEO of Monevo, to discuss their recent acquisition by TransUnion and how they're transforming credit offer distribution.
Greg explains how Monevo serves as a technology layer connecting lenders and publishers, allowing lenders to distribute highly qualified credit offers to third-party websites and aggregators. The platform helps lenders target the right customers across multiple digital ch...
Rich Walker is a 35-year industry vet who’s been responsible for over 10 billion pieces of Direct Mail.
Rich has led direct marketing teams at Capital One, the Winterberry Group, Deluxe Corporation, 2nd Order Solutions, and more recently, Aven.
So we jumped at the opportunity to get his take on how lenders can leverage Direct Mail to grow their customer acquisition programs.
We Discuss:
1️⃣ Why Direct ...
What is Congruence? Aligning messaging from your ad, to your landing page, to your final conversion steps creates lift in your marketing funnel, reducing your CACs and increasing your customer acquisition volumes. It sounds elementary. Yet many organizations forget to do it.
Today we dig into examples of marketing from Wells Fargo and Discover to illustrate what it means to be Congruent across your marketing funnel.
We chat with Kevin Bennett, a successful entrepreneur who helped grow Caribou to a billion-dollar company. Now, he's back with Further, a platform focused on helping people afford their first homes. Kevin shares important lessons for early-stage founders and gives practical advice for growing a business.
We Discuss:
Product vs. Distribution: Kevin explains why both product development and...
I just launched a new Podcast at the intersection of marketing, lending, and fintech. It includes everything you get on this show, plus more. (PS - If you're happy with Affiliate-only content, stay here. I'll keep publishing episodes I think will be relevant to you). Find the new show by searching "The Free Toaster" on your Podcast player, or by going here: https://thefreetoaster.podbean.com/ Please also check out the weekly New...
Carlos shares what he learned about brand marketing from New Balance's turnaround.
TL;DR - For 15 years, New Balance watched its revenues decline. Consumers saw its sneakers as “dad shoes”—safe, comfortable, but uncool. Traditional direct-response marketing wasn’t reversing the trend. In April 2020, a new CMO, Chris Davis, arrived with a bold idea: flip the marketing mix from a 70% reliance on direct-response ads to a brand-led a...
Carlos riffs on why CPA negotiations are a waste of time and 9 other things you should know about the topic as someone new to the channel.
Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction to CPA Negotiations
(01:43) Understanding CPA and Market Dynamics
(02:22) Strategies for Effective CPA Management
(06:11) Common Pitfalls and Final Thoughts
Where to find Carlos:
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We sit with Tomas Campos, CEO at Spinwheel. Spinwheel’s product caught my attention because affiliate marketers could use their product to reduce the friction in their application processes.
Timestamps:
(00:00) Meet Tomas Campos, CEO of Spinwheel (02:30) Ideal customers and use cases (06:30) Success metrics (12:35) Challenges building the business (15:37) Partnering with lenders (22:41) Uplift from pre-filling application forms...If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
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