We Were Thinking
Matt and Steve are a father and son duo who have 65 years of ministry experience between them. Matt has led worship in some capacity for 25 years and Steve has worked with students for more than 40 years. Join them as they discuss topics that cover everything from deconstructing your faith and ministry to marriage and parenting. Matt and Steve are story tellers and love to talk about their friendship as father and son (which, as you’ll hear, wasn’t always the case). Once a month or so they take time out to talk directly to ministers.
Episodes
Proverbs 22:6 says "Train up a child in the way he should go; even when he is old he will not depart from it." Join the guys as they discuss that they think this verse in the words of Inigo Montoya "Does not mean what you think it means." When does it mean to train up your child in the way they should go?
Intro Music: Wes Cepin
Outro Music: Matt Coleman
Proverbs 29:18 says "Where there is no vision, the people are unrestrained, But happy is one who keeps the Law." (NASB) Today the guys talk about what it means to live your life and run your ministry with vision. This doesn't just mean Vision Statements, but even those moments when God reveals something new in your walk with him. Whenever a vision begins in your life, it is always rooted in the word.
Intro Music: Wes Cepin
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This one is the conclusion to Episodes 53 and the breakout session Steve taught at the Conclave Youth Ministry conference. This one dives into time management, communication, evaluation, team building and networking, told as only Steve can tell it!
Intro Music: Wes Cepin
Outro Music: Matt Coleman
This one comes from a breakout session Steve taught in 2025 as part of Conclave Youth Ministry Conference in Chattanooga, Tennessee. This one is designed specifically for youth ministers and includes some great practices for working in your Youth ministry.
Intro Music: Wes Cepin
Outro Music: Matt Coleman
Moral failures as a public figure or as a minster are damaging not only to our ministries, but to our families and all areas of our lives. So how do we keep this from happening to us? Join Steve & Matt as they dive into practical steps we can take to guard ourselves in our ministries, families and personal lives.
Intro Music: Wes Cepin
Outro Music: Matt Coleman
It seems like we hear of moral failures in ministers every week. We see high-profile Pastors, musicians and other "Christian Celebrities" falling into sin or leaving the faith. How did we get here? Join the guys in part one discussing Moral failures.
Intro Music: Wes Cepin
Outro Music: Matt Coleman
In Episode 49, the guys talked about why we need to be readers, and shared some of their recent reads. In this episode, the Steve and Matt talk about books they've read in the past that they would recommend. Don't Forget to email info@wewerethinking.org to let them know what you're reading!
Intro Music by Wes Cepin
Outro Music by Matt Coleman
The Deconstruc...
Harry Truman once said, "Not all readers are leaders, but all leaders are readers." Join Steve and Matt as they talk about not only why you should read, but what they've been reading lately, too. They talk about what they've been reading to grow their faith, but also to just enjoy reading!
Books mentioned in this episode:
Standard Memorandum Notebook by word notebooks.
Brave New World by Ald...
Have you ever heard someone say something along the lines of, "Suck it up, Buttercup. Real men don't cry." Yeah, try saying that to King David! Today the guys talk about Biblical manliness and the fact that real men do cry.
Intro: Wes Cepin
Outro: Matt Coleman
After talking about what it means to be a man, the guys unpack it a little further and dive into 1 Corinthians 16:13-14 and Ephesians 5:25. We often like to get to the "Wives submit to your husbands" part in Ephesians 5:22, but neglect the "Husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her." Real manliness is taking care of your family, being your wife's biggest fan, and loving Jesus above all els...
Over the next three episodes, the guys take a look at what it means to be a man according to the scriptures. Steve and Matt unpack 1 Corinthians 13:11 and what it means to be a man. Matt also mentions the book The Intentional Father by Jon Tyson.
Intro: Wes Cepin
Outro: Matt Coleman
Youth ministers sometimes get classified as glorified babysitters with games and pizza. While that isn't true AT ALL, there is a time and place for games. Join Steve and Matt as they talk about "Playing with Purpose." They give some practical advice, and even give some examples of games they've used over the years. Drop us an email at info@wewerethinking.org and tell us what games have made an impact in your youth ministry!
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What legacy will you leave? How will you be remembered? Join Steve and Matt as they encourage you to, once again, "Start with the end in mind" when it comes to how you live your life. Remember, you have to start now to leave the legacy you want. The guys talk about an exercise to try to think about where you're heading.
Intro Music - Wes Cepin
Outro Music - Matt Coleman
Steve once came across a phrase that he just couldn't shake. It was, "At it's core, Christianity is a counter-cultural, revolutionary movement." Today, the guys talk about what a revolution is, how Christianity is a revolution, and what that means for us in our personal walk today.
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Opening Music - Wes Cepin
Closing Music - Ma...
Do you ever find yourself making New Year's Resolutions every year, only to break them within the first few weeks? Do you get tired of that? Join the guys as they encourage you not to make a new resolution, but to change your mindset in how to focus in the new year when it comes to your walk with Christ.
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For a very long time, churches have marked the progression of maturity in Christianity as regularly attending church > joining a small group > serving in the church. All of those are great, but they don't guarantee that you have matured, or that you're even a follower of Christ! Join Steve and Matt as they talk about the marks of a disciple, and they even offer some practical advice.
This is one of our most requested topics. Steve was featured in an article for The Christian Index (https://christianindex.org/stories/high-school-seminary-striking-early-morning-chord-in-kentucky,32295) where they talked about something he started several years ago. Calling it High School Seminary, Steve challenged his students to stop living from camp high to camp high and get serious about their faith. What followed became an in...
Concluding the three-part series on living out the marriage vows, Steve and Matt Talk about the last section "to love and to cherish" and "until death do us part." Make sure to listen to the other episodes first to catch up before diving into part 3.
Intro Music: Wes Cepin
Outro Music: Matt Coleman
We said this would be a two-parter, but there was just too much to cover! If you didn't catch the first episode, make sure you listen to it first. The guys are going through the traditional marriage vows and how to live them out through the duration of your marriage. This episode, Steve and Matt focus in on "for richer for poorer" and "in sickness and in health."
Intro Music: Wes Cepin
Outro Music: Matt coleman
Steve and Sula spoke at a marriage event, and talked about the seasons of marriage. Join Steve and Matt as they discuss the traditional wedding vows, and the importance of upholding those throughout every stage of life. This turned into a 3 part conversation. Today they focus in on "to have and to hold from this day forward" and "for better, for worse".
Intro Music: Wes Cepin
Outro Music: Matt Coleman
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