The Capitalism and Freedom in the Twenty-First Century Podcast
This podcast is focused on economics, finance and public policy, with a common thread to exploring some of the ideas of the late economist Milton Friedman titled after his 1962 book ”Capitalism and Freedom”.
Episodes
Jon Hartley and Cass Sunstein discuss the current state as of 2025 of behavioral economics and ideas presented in Nudge (such as government nudge units), administrative law and regulation (cost-benefit analysis and regulatory budgets), Constitutional Law and separation of powers, political philosophy and liberalism.
Recorded on August 12, 2025.
ABOUT THE SERIES
Each episode of Capitalism and Freedom in the 21st Century, a video pod...
Jon Hartley and Liz Truss discuss the former UK Prime Minister’s upbringing and her early interest in economics and politics, her pro-growth policy vision for the United Kingdom, her premiership and the 2022 UK gilt crisis, the state of free speech in the UK and the anglosphere, the Starmer Labour government, the role of the UK and its allies in the world amidst the rise of China, and the future direction of politics and the econom...
Jon Hartley and Richard Epstein discuss Richard’s career as a legal scholar, the takings clause, state monopoly power, Richard’s property-driven theory of constitutional interpretation (how it contrasts with the originalism of Antonin Scalia and Robert Bork as well as living constitution theories), the Coase theorem, and classical liberalism versus anarcho-capitalism.
Recorded on July 16, 2025.
ABOUT THE SERIES
Each episode of Capi...
Hoover Institution fellow Jon Hartley and former FDIC Vice Chair Thomas Hoenig discuss Tom’s career as an economist, as Vice Chair of the FDIC, President of the Kansas City Fed, topics including the global financial crisis, banking regulation, Glass-Steagall, Too Big To Fail, moral hazard, lender of last resort powers, Basel III, the Dodd-Frank Act, capital requirements, deposit insurance after the Silicon Valley Bank regional bank...
Hoover Institution fellow Jon Hartley and hedge fund investor Kyle Bass discuss Kyle’s career and upbringing, the 2000s housing crisis, the 2010s European sovereign debt crisis, the rise and fall of Japan’s economy, China’s rising aggression and decoupling from the US, shifting tides in the Middle East, the sclerosis of Europe, and why the US remains the best place in the world to continue to invest as an innovation hub.
Recorded o...
Jon Hartley and Randal Quarles discuss Randy’s career as a lawyer and in policy (including his time as Federal Reserve Vice Chair for Regulation) and topics such as the global financial crisis, Glass-Steagall, banking regulation, lender of last resort, Basel III, the Dodd-Frank Act, capital requirements, the potential relaxation of Treasuries in the Supplementary Leverage Ratio (SLR), deposit insurance after the Silicon Valley Bank...
Jon Hartley and Kenneth Rogoff discuss Ken’s career as an academic economist, his time in international economic policy, rising sovereign debt burdens, monetary policy, the legacy of quantitative easing, exchange rate theories, tariffs, and the US dollar's status as the world reserve currency.
Recorded on May 12, 2025.
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS:
Kenneth Rogoff is Thomas D. Cabot Professor at Harvard University. From 2001-2003, Rogoff serv...
Jon Hartley and Phillip Swagel discuss Phill’s career as an academic economist, his time in economic policy, why the CBO is important in the budget policy process, current law versus current policy baselines, dynamic scoring versus static scoring, the accuracy of CBO scores, CBO modeling, as well as CBO model transparency.
Recorded on March 18, 2025.
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS:
Phillip Swagel became the 10th Director of the Congressional B...
Jon Hartley and Robert Barro discuss Robert’s career in economics including his long list of famous students, and research on Ricardian equivalence, fiscal theory of the price level, government spending multipliers, business cycles and the legacy of New Keynesian modeling, economic growth, political economy, the interplay between religion and economics, and much more.
Recorded on March 18, 2025.
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS:
Robert J. Barro ...
Jon Hartley and Eugene Fama discuss Gene’s career at the University of Chicago Booth School of Business since the 1960s and helping to start Dimensional Fund Advisers (DFA) in the 1980s, fat tails, the rise of modern portfolio theory, efficient markets versus behavioral finance, factor-based investing, the role of intermediaries, and whether asset prices are elastic versus inelastic with respect to demand.
Recorded on March 14, 202...
Jon Hartley and Raghuram Rajan discuss Raghu’s research, his policy career including his time as the Governor of the Reserve Bank of India and the Chief Economic Adviser to the Government of India under Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, India adopting inflation targeting during his tenure, Rajan predicting the 2008 financial crisis, and economic growth in India, the legacy of his book Saving Capitalism from the Capitalists among many ...
Jon Hartley and Neale Mahoney (Stanford Economics Professor) discuss Neale’s career, Neale’s research on consumer sentiment, junk fees, and medical debt, as well as Neale’s time in the Biden Administration National Economic Council and the future of economic policy.
Recorded on January 8, 2025.
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS:
Neale Mahoney is the Trione Director of Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research (SIEPR), a Professor of Econom...
Jon Hartley and Federal Reserve Governor Adriana Kugler discuss the stance of monetary policy, the Federal Reserve balance sheet, the natural rate of interest (r-star), inflation, labor markets, productivity, entrepreneurship, the US economy, and the recent growth in Miami.
Recorded on February 7, 2025.
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS:
Dr. Adriana D. Kugler took office as a member of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System on Septe...
Jon Hartley and Joe Lonsdale discuss Joe’s career, co-founding Palantir, Addepar, and OpenGov, venture capital investing, defense tech, DOGE, Elon Musk, regulation, and the prospects for generative artificial intelligence.
Recorded on December 12, 2024.
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS:
Joe Lonsdale is the founder and managing Partner at 8VC, an early-stage venture capital firm managing over $6 billion in capital. In 2003, he founded Palantir Te...
Jon Hartley and Douglas Irwin discuss Doug’s career, the history of US trade policy, tariffs, globalization, the consumer and labor market effects of trade, the World Trade Organization, and industrial policy.
Recorded on January 9, 2025.
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS:
Douglas Irwin is John French Professor of Economics at Dartmouth College. He is the author of Clashing over Commerce: A History of U.S. Trade Policy (University of Chicago Pres...
Jon Hartley and David Beckworth discuss David’s career, monetary policy, the history of Nominal GDP targeting as an idea along with its benefits and challenges, the history of inflation targeting along with its recent evolution, the Fed’s recent framework reviews, as well as corridor (scarce reserves) versus floor (ample reserves) systems.
Recorded on January 7, 2025.
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS:
David Beckworth is a senior research fellow ...
Jon Hartley and Myron Scholes discuss Myron’s career, including being at the University of Chicago at the dawn of financial economics as a field, how Myron met Fischer Black, and the development of the Black-Scholes option pricing model, investing, innovation, and financial regulation.
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS:
Myron Scholes is the Frank E. Buck Professor of Finance, Emeritus, at the Stanford Graduate School of Business, Nobel Laureate i...
AI, Tech, Industrial Policy and Baby Equities with Brad Gerstner (Altimeter Capital Founder and CEO)
Jon Hartley and Brad Gerstner discuss Brad’s career, free markets, investing in technology, industrial policy, the CHIPS and Science Act, and baby equity investment accounts.
Recorded on November 1, 2024.
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS:
Brad Gerstneris the founder and CEO of Altimeter Capital, a tech investment firm based in Silicon Valley, that manages both public and VC investment portfolios. Started in 2008, Altimeter manages over $15bn of ...
Jon Hartley and James Bullard discuss Bullard’s career in monetary policy, the history of the St. Louis Fed, serving on the FOMC during the Bernanke, Yellen and Powell Feds, inflation targeting, forward guidance, macroeconomic modeling, as well as how the Fed responded to the Great Recession, COVID-19, and the early 2020s inflation.
Recorded on November 4, 2024.
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS:
James “Jim” Bullard is a macroeconomist and was pr...
Jon Hartley and Jesus Fernandez-Villaverde discuss Jesus’s career, schools of economic thought and the role of institutions in economic history, economic growth (including recent declining GDP growth rates and declining fertility), business cycles, drivers of the early 2020s inflation, dynamic stochastic general equilibrium (DSGE) and vector autoregressive (VAR) models, schools of economic thought and the role of institutions in ec...
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