Into the Fire: Powered by Dream City Church

Into the Fire: Powered by Dream City Church

In Daniel 3, Shadrach, Meshach and Abed-Nego stood for truth in a culture, and against a government that was hostile to their values. They were willing to go into the fire if necessary. God didn't spare them the FROM the furnace but He was with them IN the fire. In today's culture, standing for truth may be challenging. The world around us is hostile to the Word of God and to biblical values. But we are called to be salt and light. (Matthew 5: 13-16) God has placed us at this time in history on purpose and for a purpose. Join us as we get better equipped to address civics and culture from a biblical worldview.

Episodes

April 2, 2026 38 mins

This week, Debi is joined by Senator Warren Petersen, Arizona Senate President

Senator Peterson explains the basic makeup and process of the state legislature, the role of Senate President and the process of being selected to serve as Senate President.

Debi and Senator Petersen discuss how Kris Mayes,  our current Arizona Attorney General, has repeatedly and willfully failed to do her job defending state law in th...

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This week, Debi is joined by Taylor Sharp, influencer and investigative journalist. 

Taylor is a young Christian, a Gen Z conservative and social media influencer with a significant following.

Taylor talks about how he got started as a young teen and about how Charlie Kirk influenced his life path. Taylor attends protests, asks protestors questions, and records the interactions.

Debi and Taylor discuss ho...

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March 19, 2026 46 mins

This week, Debi is joined by Tina Hansen. She and her husband Derek, last week's guest, pastor the Dream City Campus in Show Low.  Tina is  also the director of the Living Hope Dream Center in Show Low, AZ

Tina shares her own story of being a poor single mom with two young children and how she fought to get herself and her children out of difficult circumstances. She also shares the tragic story of her son's deat...

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March 13, 2026 43 mins

This week, Debi is joined by Pastor Derek Hansen, campus pastor at the White Mountains campus of Dream City Church.

Pastor Derek talks about growing up Mormon and about the journey that led him away from the Morman church and to a relationship with Christ.  They talk about the unique area where their campus is located.

Derek and Debi discuss how his campus is landlocked by tribal land and about the relationships t...

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March 5, 2026 44 mins

This week, Debi is joined by Steele Brand, associate professor at Arizona State University.

In 2016, the Arizona Legislature established and funded the School of Civic and Economic Thought and Leadership (SCETL) at ASU aiming to promote the study of Western civilization, American institutions, and free-market philosophy. Professor Brand is one of the professors who teaches in this important program

Debi and Profes...

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February 26, 2026 42 mins

This week, Debi is joined by Leisa Brug, VP of Advocacy at Center for Arizona Policy and CAP Action.

Leisa shares un update on the systematic dismantling of our state's common sense pro-life laws following the tragic passing of Prop 139 in November.  Elections have consequences

Debi and Leisa discuss the process of how a bill becomes a law and the work that goes on behind the scenes to draft and pass good leg...

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This week, Debi is joined by Gabriel and Kellee Napoleon.

Gabriel and Kellee share the story of their own road to redemption.  They talk about meeting in addiction and living in that addiction for years.

After testing positive for drugs following the delivery of their third child, their lives suddenly hit a crossroads.  Kellee and Gabriel talk about how ending up at the Phoenix Dream Center changed the trajectory ...

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This week, Debi is joined by State Representative Pamela Carter

Representative Carter talks about what led her to run for office and about the role that faith plays in her life and work.

Debi and Representative Carter discuss the important role of state government. Rep Carter walks through the process of how bills get heard, discussed, and voted on at the State Capitol.

They also discuss the ways in which...

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February 5, 2026 47 mins

This week, Debi is joined by Bruce and Kim Ketola from Kairos Prison Ministries

Bruce and Kim talk about the work of Kairos Prison Ministries and how they got involved.

Debi, Bruce and Kim discuss the importance of outreach to those who are incarcerated and to their loved ones. The Kairos retreat model shares the love of Christ with male and female prisoners and helps develop them to be leaders both in and out of ...

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This week, Debi is joined by Tammy O'Connor, campaign leader for 40 Days for Life

Tammy shares her personal story of the tragedy of abortion and how that led her to get involved in the life movement. 

Debi and Tammy talk about 40 Days for Life, how it got started and its impact.  They discuss the deceptive and sometimes hostile practices of abortion clinics and how they do everything to prevent women from hea...

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This week, Debi is joined by Lucy Breen and Season Reynolds, co-founders of Pursuit Ministry at Dream City Church.

Debi, Season and Lucy discuss a previous episode of Into the Fire with Season about the specific and unique needs of singles in churches across the country. 

In this episode, they discuss how Lucy and Season launched a ministry designed for singles of all ages.  It can be particularly challenging to d...

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January 15, 2026 40 mins

This week, Debi is joined by Ashley Trussell, founder of Butterfly Effect Foundation

Ashley and Debi discuss foster care group homes and the unique needs of teens who are unable to be placed with a family.  While they are provided for and supervised, they often lack the bonding and connection that comes with family.  These young people often miss out on things that the rest of us take for granted, like going to professional sporting...

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November 20, 2025 43 mins

This week, Debi is joined by Alison Furno, previous co-host of Into the Fire and a volunteer leader with Dream City Civics

Debi and Alison discuss the alarming rise in a favorable view of Communism among young Americans.  

Debi and Alison discuss the dangers of an overreaching federal government and how the founders tried to warn of this.  They talk about how dependence on government programs and assistance is exc...

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November 13, 2025 50 mins

This week, Debi is joined by Pastor Saeed Hosseini, prayer pastor at Dream City Church and founder of the Global 365 Prayer Network

Pastor Saeed shares his background growing up in a Muslim family in Iran. Debi and Pastor Saeed discuss some of the tenets of Islam, the dangers and oppressions of the belief system and how that ideology is incompatible with American freedom. They also discuss the alarming rise in Islam in Ame...

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November 6, 2025 47 mins

This week, Debi is joined by Kim Ketola, author of Cradle My Heart and volunteer for Dream Life Pro-Life Ministries at Dream City Church.

Debi and Kim discuss Kim's own post-abortion healing journey. They also discuss the prevalence of abortion within the church at large. One in three women sitting in a church has had an abortion.  

Debi and Kim discuss some of the ramifications of having had an abortion including substance abus...

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October 30, 2025 45 mins


This week, Debi is joined by Pastor Jim Black, Director of the Care Network at Dream City Church.

Pastor Jim oversees congregational care and has performed hundreds of funerals for Dream City Church.

Debi and Jim discuss the aftermath of tragedy. It often brings out either the best or worst in people and can either bring families together or amplify existing issues. The Congregational care network has a uniqu...

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October 23, 2025 40 mins

This week, Debi is joined by Adam Ranney, worship pastor at Dream City Church Glendale Campus, and a leader in men's ministry.

Debi and Adam talk about how across ministries and churches, men are being called higher, back into their divine purpose.

Adam shares a picture of the importance of covering. God created Adam, Eve was created from within Adam and children are created from within women. There is a beau...

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October 16, 2025 46 mins

This week, Debi is joined by Sloan Adams, Central Senior Strategic Manager of TPUSA Faith

Debi and Sloan discuss the faith arm of TPUSA and its work unifying and empowering churches to speak truth in love to culture. 

They discuss how so many cultural and political issues over the last several years including COVID, BLM, Antifa, men calling themselves women and the overturn of Roe v Wade have impacted churches. So...

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October 9, 2025 32 mins

This week, Debi is joined by Alison Furno, one of the volunteer leaders of Dream City Civics Ministry and former co-host of Into the Fire podcast.

Debi and Alison discuss the importance of biblically based civics.  They go through some scriptural examples of godly men and women interacting with, influencing and participating in government affairs.  

They tackle some of the common arguments against biblically based...

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October 2, 2025 39 mins

This week, Debi is joined by special guest Dr. Krista Fabrick business and marketing professor Mesa community college, marketing consultant and business coach (Sam Oriza was out sick)

Debi and Krista discuss the growing concerns with the effects that use of AI can have on the brain and on the effects that screen time in general can have on young developing minds.

Just like many other things, AI is not inherently g...

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