Rod Arquette Show: Presidential Debate Preview with Jason Chaffetz; Primary Election Winners John Curtis and Mike Kennedy

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I'm going to ask you a question, what do you think will be the
first question of the debate tonight,Because that first question, in my opinion,
is going to tell us where we'regoing in this debate, if they're
going to focus on the issues,or if they're going to try and goat
Donald Trump and trigger him to getangry. So we'll get into that.

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We've got a lot of other questionsas well for you this afternoon as you
work your way home. But itis a very big night. It is
the debate tonight. The CNN presidentialdebate starts at seven o'clock. It will
go for ninety minutes. The twocandidates will stand. There will be two
two minute breaks. All they'll beable to take to the podium is a
pad, a pencil, and alittle bit of water and that's it.

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So we'll see how they all standup. Are we expecting a car crash
tonight? Are we going to seea debate, a substantive debate tonight without
the name calling, without the accusationsthat will be leveled against Donald Trump tonight.
I will have to wait and see. It's just going to be fascinating
and we'll be talking about that onthe show throughout the day. How are
you, everybuddy, Hello, Utah, Welcome to the Rod Arcutchew right here

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on Utah's Talk Radio one oh fivenine k n RS. If you want
to be a part of the programtonight, very easy eighty eight eight five
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to give away to Hoody and theBlowfish who will be in concert coming up

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in July, and we'll have achance for you to win those tickets as
well. So, like I said, a lot to get to Congressman John
Curtis. He's still a congressman,but he's also a senator elect. Will
be joining us here in a fewminutes. We'll talk about that. Remember
James Clapper. James Clapper was BarackObama's National Intelligence Director. The role he

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played in the twenty sixteen and twentytwenty debate is pretty amazing. And does
he have another October surprise up hissleeve for the twenty twenty four campaign.
We'll talk about that. Jason Chaffin'sbusy day for Jason. A lot of
people want his opinion on the debate. He'll be joining us well, and

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a little bit later on we'll talkwith State Center Mike Kennedy, who is
about to become a member of theUS House. And Mike will join us
a little bit later on in theshow. And of course, as always,
your participation is greatly appreciated, sowe invite you to give us a
call. Eight eight eight five seveneight zero one zero eight eight eight five
seven eight zero one zero. Now, one of the issues that is certainly

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to come up tonight. We don'tknow how it's going to be phrased,
but it's certainly going to come uptonight is illegal immigration. We share this
story with you because this is aconcern for a lot of Americans today.
There is a story out of Syracuse, New York tonight. A migrant from
Ecuador who entered the US illegally soundfamiliar, is accused now suffocating a twenty

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one year old Syracuse woman on herbirthday and then burying her body in a
shallow grave in the upstate New Yorkcommunity. The twenty one year old is
charged with killing a fellow Ecuadorian afterarranging to meet the victim for her birthday
at an Airbnb in Syracuse, NewYork. This is what the American people

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are starting to hear every day,and Joe Biden has got to be able
to respond to this. He's gotto be asked questions about this. We'll
see if in fact he does.We'll have to wait and see how that
all pans out. But that's oneof the issues that are going to come
up tonight. Now some thoughts asDonald Trump gets ready to debate Joe Biden

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tonight, and like I said,we want to get your feedback on this
as well. I think my opiniontonight, Donald Trump will best be served
if he talks to the American peoplealmost ignore Joe Biden, because Joe Biden's
going to lie about everything. Whenit comes to the economy, right,
He's going to claim the economy isthe best shape it's ever been, you

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know, you know, he's tamedinflation, He's created fifteen million jobs.
Every one of those claims are wrong. That's why, in my opinion,
Donald Trump should look at the Americanpeople, almost ignore, almost ignore Joe
Biden's knight and talk to the Americanpeople about the facts and he should level
with the American people about the facts. He should tell the American people,

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you know, yes, we dohave inflation, higher inflation that we really
want. I'm aware of that.Give me the space to fix it.
It's not going to happen overnight.But that's what he needs to tell the
American people. He needs to say, yes, inflation exists, it is
dire, and it's going to takesome time, some time to fix it.

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But I promise you that is whatI am going to do. He
also, like I said in myopinion, Donald Trump, by the way,
isn't it interesting that Joe Biden neededwhat six seven days in some cabin
somewhere to prepare for this. DonaldTrump's been out campaigning And how does he
prep He talks to policy experts.He wants to find out from the experts

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about, you know, his ideasand what he think and what they think
should be done in the country.He doesn't hold up in some cabin and
blocking everything out and not being presidentfor the next six days. By the
way, how does he get awaywith that? Just wondering, But like
I said, I don't I itis Donald Trump's nature because Donald Trump is

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a fighter. You know. DonaldTrump is a battler, you know,
but I think, like I said, he just needs to focus on the
facts. He should look in thatcamera tonight and he should talk to the
American people about food prices. What'sit going for you and your family at
the grocery store? Are you tothe point now you're starting to decide?

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I think we can live without thatfor another week or another month, or
we'll get a different brand that's alittle bit cheaper than the brand you're used
to buying. Are you thinking aboutthat? Ask him about gasoline prices?
What are you paying for gasoline?When I ran the country back in what
was it, you know, fromtwenty seventeen to twenty twenty one, you

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know, gas prices hovered around twodollars a gallon? What are they today?
How about jobs? Do you feelsecure in your job? Do you
think your job is giving you anopportunity to grow? That's what he needs
to tell the American people and makethem think about what has happened in this
country since Joe Biden has taken over. We need, you know, he

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needs to tell the American people,Yes, we are going to free you
so that you can work. Weare going to reduce all all those ridiculous
climate changing, global warming, allthose special favors to the unions and to
people out there. We are goingto give you an opportunity to create I'm
going to help you create work,and we're going to find employees that can

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work. And that's what he needsto tell the American people. They need
to He needs to tell them thegovernment is not no longer going to choose
your path for success. We aregoing to help you find your path for
success, and then we're all getthe heck out of the way. I
think those are the some of thethings that Donald Trump needs to ask the
American people tonight as he works withthem tonight and and helps them out tonight

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to understand the difference between him andof course between if you could move that
mic over Chad for for him touse, that'd be much much better.
Thank you. Uh. Those aresome of the questions that need to be
asked tonight, and that's those arethe facts that Donald Trump needs to tell
people. Dona focus on the facts, mister Trump, and do not focus

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on what Joe Biden and they're goingto got you into this, But pay
attention. I think it's critical thatyou pay attention tonight the first one or
two questions that are going to beasked, because if they want to bring
up twenty sixteen, if they wantto bring up you know what happened on
January sixth, you know where they'regoing. And that's what you need to

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be looking for tonight. Now we'regoing to get into this a lot more
when we come back. Of course, US Congressman John Curtis, who is
about to become a US Senator,will join us. We'll talk to him
about his plans for the Senate andhis thoughts on the debate tonight. All
coming up right here on the rodArk Kent Show and Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine k and RS oran iHeartRadio station. Make sure you listen

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to us live. All you dois have to download our app at knars
dot com. Let's talk with JohnCurtis. John Curtis, of course,
who won the Republican primary for theUS Senate to replace met Romney. I
am incorrectly stated he was sent orelect, not yet. He does have
a November election to go against aDemocratic opponent, but he is the Republican

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choice now for the USNA was busyyesterday, but we were able to catch
up to him today. John,thanks for joining us on the show tonight.
John, congratulations first of all onyour victory. On Tuesday. You
did an interview with one of themedia outlets in town and you were asked
how did you win and you sayit came down to one thing, that
you're normal. What do you meanby that? Well, thank you by

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the way for your congratulations. Youknow, I think a lot of times
we get lost in definition stereotypes likeoh, somebody's a liberal, they're a
monitor, their conservative. And theproblem with those stereotypes is they change,
right, It changes in Utah fromcounty to county what's a conservative? And
certainly from state to state. Andso I just pushed back a little bit

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and I said, look, Ilike to fill myself aligned with what I
would call normal values, and Ithink that's with Utah's values, and that,
to me is a better definition thanthe stereotype that doesn't apply. How
would you define, John, yourbrand of Utah conservativism? How would you
define that? You know, I'dlove to go back to kind of our

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states founding and if you think aboutindependence, if you think about hard work,
if you think about personal responsibility andaccountability. I think those are the
things that our state and our countrywere founded on, and and to me,
that's always exemplified Republican and conservative values. And so I like to default
to those original things that we youand I were taught growing up, right,

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that were great about our country andgreat about our state. What do
you carry from Congress now the Houseto the Senate? What will you carry?
What do you hope to achieve thereas you move from the higher chamber
as they like to refer to itas. Yeah, So I'll use this
opportunity to point out I actually getto take my seniority with me, which
is a big deal for Utah becauseI think Utah's realized if you start over

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in the set with seniority, itputs the state to a disadvantage. So
that's one thing I think that's importantfor the state. I want to carry
two major things, at least.One is my work on energy policy.
Utah is such an energy producing state, and in many ways that's been demonized,
and I think that's wrong. Ithink our energy sources are part of

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the solution, not the problem.But I also think you is on the
verge of a revolution for innovation onenergy and it's amazing the innovation that's coming
out of Utah and new types ofenergy including geothermo and nuclear and other things
that are kind of pioneering. Andso that's a big thing to take to
the Senate. Also, my workon public lands. As you know,

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the real part of the state isjust so dominated by public lands and it's
a big problem the interface between thefederal state government, and so I want
to do a lot of work onthat. And of course you know it's
the whole border issue is so importantto the country right now now and making
sure that we get that resolved aswell as the deficit. I can hardly

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go anywhere without hearing those two topics, and I think all of this need
to double down and do better workon both of those topics. You formed
in the House, John, theConservative Climate Caucus a couple of years ago.
Will you attempt to do the samething in the Senate? Can you
do that in the Senate? Doyou think the Senate? So there's two
things. The first of all,I would like to continue that conversation,

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So how that continues, we'll haveto see. The Senate does caucuses.
But not quite the same way.So that's a nuance that's different, and
I think the Senate's in a differentplace than the House was on that climate
discussion. I think there further alongthan the House was, and so clearly
I want to make sure that thatwork continues. But what format takes,

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we'll just have to see. John. The mere fact that you're in the
Senate, you won't be up forreelection now for another six years, is
that going to change how you approachthings? I think it's fair to say
it changes a lot. That's abig difference between the House and the Senate.
You notice in the House they tendto be more reactive, they tend
to be quicker focused. In theSenate, they're teased almost because they're a

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little bit slower. And I thinka lot of that has to do with
the six year term. You getmultiple years to work on issues and things
like permitting reforms that I'm working on, you know, it does take multiple
years to do it, and Ithink that's one of the luxuries of the
Senate is when you don't have tofocus on the campaign twenty four to seven,
you actually dig deeper a little biton some issues. And I'm looking
forward to that. I haven't seenthe final numbers yet, John, but

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it appears that you'll win with morethan slightly more than fifty percent of the
vote. That's fifty percent. Howimportant was that for you in this election
everything? Rod? I can't tellyou, as a candidate how that made
me feel. To have that manyUtahns say, we like your message,
we like your lane. In afour way race, for any candidate ever

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to get over fifty just doesn't happen. And I didn't dare dream of what
happened. As we talked about thepossibilities, polls didn't even show that doing
it that well. So for me, it was just really significant. And
well, I'm going to take thisopportunity to thank the voters too. You
know they're listening to you because youknow they believed in me, and I
don't That just inspires me to workyou in harder. And for those fifty

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percent that didn't vote for me,I'm totally motivated to go win their support
and respect, and I just wantthem to know I work really hard to
do that. Well, let's talkabout Donald Trump. We've got the debate
tonight. What are you looking forout of this debate? And in particularly
Donald Trump, what are you lookingfor him to say, or to call
or to talk about tonight during thedebate. So I think and hope that

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we'll hear his solutions to the border. We kind of already know what they
are because he's been there. ButI suspect we'll hear a lot about border,
and I mean, the decision isvery very clear for Americans. You
can look at the border under DonaldTrump and you gunder Joe Biden. It's
very clear, right, which wouldyou rather have? And so I think
that's a strong point for him.I think you'll hear about other immigrations issues

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beyond the border. And I thinkyou'll hear some taxation issues. That's a
really big deal as well. Histax cuts are expiring. I was really
proud to be part of those intwenty seventeen, but they're expiring, and
so I'd like to hear some ideasfrom him about where he wants to go
for that. And quite frankly,I think this is a really good opportunity
for Donald Trump to show his experiencein command as president and show people that

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they can trust him and that it'stime to go back to many of those
policies that he had that did putour country in a better place than we
are today. Do you support theextension of his tax cuts? Do you
think that's one thing that the Senateand the President, if he's elected back
in the White House, you'd workon right away, John, Yes,
absolutely, I do. And atthe same time, I think that we

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should be smart enough to realize whatrefinements need to be there. I don't
think it should being automatic everything thatgets renewed. We do need to keep
an eye on the deficit, andwe need to make sure we believe as
Republicans that cutting taxes will actually bringmore revenue into the government. But let's
make sure that we do the rightthings to do that if that makes sense.

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And I think we were in trajectorylast time. That cos COVID kind
of knocked us off trajectory. ButI think we can find that that finds
space between reducing revenue that we takefrom people but actually increasing revenue into the
government because the economy prospers. Johnfinal question, what about the policies on
immigration? Should Donald Trump be putback in the White House, Should he

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eliminate many of the executive orders thatJoe Biden signed when he became and reinstitute
many of those immigration policies. Wouldyou like to see that happen. I'll
tell you a what if President fromsimply red states froming in Mexico. Ninety
percent of this goes away, andhe had that when he was there.
Of course we know that, andthis is a hard thing. There's a
difference between what's happening to the borderand immigration problems. Many of the immigration

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problems you can put on Congress becausewe don't have good laws. We have
good laws about the border, they'rejust not being enforced. If President Trump
simply enforces them and puts in policieslike remain in Mexico, we'll turn this
around almost overnight. Republican Congressman JohnCurtis, the winner and the race for
the US Senate and the primary onTuesday, will represent the Republican Party as
he goes against the Democratic opponent inthe election coming up in November. More

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coming up right here. On theRod our Cat Show and Utah's Talk Radio
one O five to nine, KNRS, James Clapper pulled off a couple of
October surprises when it came to thedebates between Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton Donald
Trump and Joe Biden. So whatcould he be up to come twenty twenty
four. Well, joining us onour newsbacker line to talk about that is

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Paul Sperry. Paul is an investigativereporter at the Real Clear Investigations. He's
been looking into how James Clapper riggedthe debates in the last couple of debates
that we've had in this How areyou, Paul, Thanks for joining us.
Let's talk about this. What exactlyhas James Clapper been up to?
Paul? Yeah, Well, Clapper, not only this is in hindsight we

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have benefit of now the emails andtext messages and closed door testimony from all
these characters are involved, including Clapper. Clapper not only manufactured fake Russian intelligence
to help Biden before his first debatewith Trump, but also manufactured fake Russian

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intelligence helped Hillary before her debate withTrump. This is back in October twenty
sixteen, So in effect, bothpresidential debates were rigged against Trump by intelligence
operatives, namely Clapper, who wasObama's chief of intelligence. And this could
be a possible harbinger of things tocome, possibly as early tonight, but

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definitely throughout twenty twenty four of theelection. Take us back to twenty sixteen
to begin with. Let's look atthat one for what exactly did he do
and what he did did that haveObama's blessing? Yeah, so, just
this was two days before the debatebetween Trump and Hillary, Clapper and Obama

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met in the White House and theyhatched a plot to manufacture this fake intelligence
about Russia ahead of that national debatebetween Hillary and Trump, and right on
cute, Hillary used it to attackTrump, try to tarnish him as some
kind of Russian conspirator, and itwas just just in time delivery for her,

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all too convenient. And then threedays prior to the debate between Biden
and Trump, he did the samething all over again with that phony letter
about, you know, trying todiscredit the Hunter Biden laptop scandal, and
sure enough, right on cube,Biden used it in the debate against Trump.

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You know, it was a lifelinefor him because you know, this
New York Post story had broke andBiden looked like he was in trouble with
you know, corruptly meeting with Barismaofficials. Some of those emails were on
Hunter's laptop, and that all cameout in that story. So they needed
to kill that story, and Clapperand his buddies helped him. And how

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did they help them? Was itthat letter where they discredited the New York
Post story and the Hunter laptop story? Is that? What? Is that
what he did? Yeah? Sothey actually coordinated with the Biden campaign.
So we're getting this now from fromemails that Congress had subpoenaed and they found
out that Clapper and his buddies fromthe intelligence community, mostly from the CIA,

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had actually coordinated with the Biden campaignto come up with a way to
discredit the story this, you know, the damning emails about Biden meeting with
corrupt Biden officials while his son washauling in millions of dollars from Bearisma.
And so the emails actually show that, and they actually said admitted that.

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One guy actually admitted in testimony andclosed door testimony that yes, we did
it to help Biden in the debate. In the debate. Wow, what
drives clapperd to do this? Imean, is there that much dislike on
his part of Donald Trump? What'sthe driving force behind him to do this?
Paul? Yeah, so he wasappointed by Obama back in twenty ten

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to be the od and I thedirector of National Intelligence overseas, tire intelligence
community apparatus, including his CIA,and he backed Obama. And then just
days before he came up with thattulouslyincorrect, inaccurate. Now we know a

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letter saying that the laptop was Russiandisinformation. By the way, he actually
came up with the language for thatletter. He was a guy who came
up with the key phrase that thisis you know, this has all the
classic earmarks of a Russian information campaign. So he's the one who came up

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with that, and that's what thepress ran with. But right before he
wrote that up, he had donatedI looked up his FBC contributions and he
had donated one thousand dollars to Bidenon top of two hundred and fifty dollars
that he had given him previously.And now he's contributing to him again in

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this campaign Biden. Wow, hasanyone called him out on this, Paul
and asked him about this? Noone has asked him about what he did
for Hillary in twenty sixteen. Somebodyneeds to go back there and investigate exactly

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how they fabricated that intelligence because itwas very important intelligence so they were trying
to say that the Kremlin itself wasbehind hacking into some of these emails in
Hillary's campaign the DNC, and theyhad no evidence that the FBI wouldn't even
attach its name to that piece ofintelligence, and it just came out.

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It was a rush job. Hepulled it right out of his hat,
and it came out right conveniently,convenient enough two days before Hillary needed it
for her campaign, and she hada whole soliloquy citing it that went on
for like ten minutes against Trump,trying to paint him as some type of
putin stooge. Could we see anotherOctober Surprise from one James Clapper again,

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Oh, the twenty sixteen and intwenty twenty he was mister October Surprise.
So I don't know what he's upto. I know he's retired. I
try to reach out to him.I know he's retired in Northern Virginia and
he's eighty three years old. Maybehe's hung up the intelligence manufacturing chops that

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he was doing there, and maybehe's passed on that to somebody else.
But we shall see Paul Spiary fromreal clear investigations talking about the role that
James Clapper played in the last twopresidential debates. More coming up on The
rod Ark Kent Show and Utah stockRadio one oh five nine can arrests.
You can bet on almost anything onthis debate tonight. You can debate if

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they're going to shake hands. Youcan bet on who's going to take the
first drink of water. I mean, he kind of loved wagering because you
can bet on anything, and there'sa lot of betting going on with this
debate tonight, a very very importantdebate, probably the most critical point in
this election campaign so far, andit could set the tone for the rest

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of the campaign. So it's goingto be really interesting to watch. Now,
I want to talk Congressman Jason Chafiswill join us here in just a
minute. We'll talk to Jason andget his thoughts on what could happen tonight.
But I want you to I wantyou to think now and weigh in
here after our interview with Congressman Chafitsabout the debate tonight. I believe that
there are two points to be made. What the first question will be tonight

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in the debate, because I thinkthat question will give us an indication of
the tone of the debate and thebias that the two moderators will show during
the debate. It all depends onwhere they go with the first question,
in my opinion, because I thinkthat's going to set the tone of the

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of the debate. That's one ofthe key questions I think is going to
come up, and that's where youneed to pay attention because I think that
will really set the tone of thedebate. And we'll get into a lot
of other things, but I'm goingto open up the phones to you.
I want to see your concerns tonight, what you have about this debate,
what you'd like to see coming outof this debate tonight. It's going to

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be fun. Ninety minutes. Itall gets underway now in a little less
than two hours from now in Atlanta, all right, Congressman Jason Shapis is
joining us on our Newsmaker line.Of course, former congressman here in the
state of Utah, now a FoxNews contributor. Jason, thanks for joining
us tonight. Jason, your thoughtsare we going to see a car crash

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or are we going to see somethoughtful discussion about the issues important to Americans
tonight? Oh? I think everybody'swatching to see if there is a big
a big car crash or train something. But you know what, you know,
everybody has these super low expectations forJoe Biden. Why should we have
to settle for that? You know, Joe Biden's is sitting president of the

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United States. This is the mostrigorous job on the face of the planet,
where you've got to be ready togo to answer call at three o'clock
in the morning. And if hecan't sit there for ninety minutes and perform,
I mean, what's four more yearsfor goodness sake? So I these
ideas that, oh, if hejust makes it and doesn't ruled, then
you know, it's going to bea victory for Joe Biden. Like what

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about the rest of us that haveto live with them as the president for
goodness sake? Yeah, Jase,what about the issue of the twenty twenty
election and January sixth, Do youthink that's going to come up right away?
When will that come up in thedebate? And how should the former
president handle those questions if in factthey come up. Well, there's a

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lot of history of things that they'regoing to want to bring up against against
Donald Trump. The challenge for DonaldTrump is to address it seriously and then
quickly pivot and talk about the future. Because any time that's spent relitigating the
past, whether they be electtions oryou know, the prosecutions or all of

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that. Yeah, make your point. But people at home, the truly
persuadable people, right Donald Trump's baseis solidly with him. No matter what
he says or does, They're probablystill going to be with him. But
there's that there's those few percentage pointsin the middle, the truly persuadable that
I think that's who you're talking to, and they want to know what you're

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going to do for me tomorrow.Elections are about the future, and you
know that's that's the challenge I thinkfor both of them and Donald Trump,
the better he can pivot, nottake the bait to get into some tussle
about relitigating the past, that that'sgoing to be the key for them.

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Food prices are higher, energy orprices are higher, Jason, Almost everything
you see nowadays, prices are higher. You can't afford to get into a
home anymore. How much should theformer president focus on those key economic issues
and how does he bring them up, I do it the whole time.
He possibly can't. I mean,the more they spend in time on focus

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on that. This is the wheelhouseof Donald Trump. This is why people
are excited about Donald Trump. Now, Joe Biden can go over there and
start explaining about different rates and thisthe other, but he tends to lie
about it. I mean, hewas just recently did an interview and said
that you know, the unemployment ratethat he inherited was or the inflation rate

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that he inherited was nine percent.It was never above three percent under Donald
Trump's term. So that's the wheelhousefor Donald Trump. That's the sweet spot.
That's why people want Donald Trump atthe helm. They want him because
he's master on the economy. Theworld was a safer place, the streets
were safer, and immigration wasn't nearlythe problem that it is. Now,

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how does he call out the currentpresident Biden I'm talking about Donald Trump,
call him out tonight on the liesthat he likes to tell, Like you
just mentioned the inflation right, thefact that Biden claims he created fifteen million
jobs during his administration. How didDonald Trump call him out on that?
He just call and say, youknow what, Joe Biden. Government doesn't

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create jobs. People create jobs.And the reality is a lot of people
finally went back to work after COVIDand all the shutdowns that happened to that.
And then just talk directly to theAmerican people and say ask yourself,
are you better off than you were? I mean, gases up, your
food bill is up. Just goingout for fast food costs more. It

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wasn't like that when I was thepresident, but it is under you,
Joe Biden, and then Chalce Yieldall the time you can to Joe Biden,
for goodnessnake because if I said toyou Rod, if you and I
are talking, I said, well, what is Joe Biden's plan to tackle
inflation? It's going to be cricketsbecause he doesn't have one. He does
not have one, and so ifhe had it, I think he'd be

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touting and he's tried to talk aboutbidenomic and this sort of thing. But
what is Joe Biden's plan to tackleinflation? More government, more spending,
Eliminate the tax cuts that were youknow that Donald Trump was able to put
in place, Well that's a taxincrease, Joe. Is that what we're
going to do? Yeah, youknow, Jason, I'm going to be

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fascinated tonight. I want to getyour opinion on this as well, Jason,
about how they're going to handle thismuted MIC's issue. You know,
they're going to be given time afteryour time is up, your mic is
muted. How do you think that'sgoing to play out in this debate tonight?
I don't think it's going to work. I mean, the banter you
want to see is between the twoof them, and uh, you're telling

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me that that microphone is not goingto pick up anything that they're I mean,
they're city, they're they're they're standingreally close to each other. So
I I don't. I don't thinkthat's going to go necessarily very well.
I think they feel like they haveto do it because Donald Trump interrupts,
and but no, I I don't. I don't think that's going to go

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very well. All right, finalquestion, what are you going to look
for tonight? What's the key takeawayyou're hoping to be able to walk away
from this debate tonight with Jason.I think one of the keys is the
ability to talk about the future.Whoever does that best will do the best.
Does you know how many mistakes didJoe might Biden make. You know,

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they're expecting a lot, and ifhe is able to minimize that,
you know they'll they'll they'll claim meone. Both sides are going to claim
hey, our guy one. Butthose persuadables in the middle. Who has
the best vision for where America isgoing next? That's who will be the
true winner. Former Utah Congressman JasonChaffins, now a contributor to Fox News,
giving us his predictions on what he'llbe looking for in the debate tonight.

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By the way, tomorrow, we'vealready lined up Bruce Huff, a
former chairman of the Utah Republican Partyand a national committeeman, and Thomas Right,
another former chairman of the Utah RepublicanParty. Both of them will be
joining us tomorrow afternoon and get theirreaction to the debate. Now, when
we come back, I'm going toopen up the phones to you and talk
to you about Here's one question foryou to consider. What is the first

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question that you think will be askedduring debate the debate tonight or if you
were a moderator, what is thefirst question you would like to ask either
Donald Trump or Joe Biden eight eighteight five seven eight zero one zero triple
eight five seven eight zero one zero, or on your cell phone, dial
Pound two fifty and say hey Rodand give us a call. Welcome back

(33:29):
to the rod ARKETCHU. Of course, we'll have complete reaction to the debate
tonight throughout the day tomorrow with GlennBeck, Clay and Travis Jehan, Hennity
and myself. We've already lined upBruce Huff and Thomas Wright to former chairmen
of the Utah Republican Party to gettheir reaction to it tomorrow and many more
to come. Of course, yourphone calls right now, we're taking your
calls. My question to you tonightis what is the first question that you

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think will be asked during the debatetonight? And if you were the moderator,
one of the moderators, what questionwould you like to direct to either
Joe Biden or Donald Trump or bothof them? You get to play monitor
here eight eight eight moderator, Ishould say eight eight eight five seven zero
eight zero one zero triple eight fiveseven zero eight zero one zero, or

(34:15):
on your cell phone just dial Poundtwo fifteen and say hey Rod. To
the phones we begin with Brian inBluffdale tonight. Brian, how are you
welcome to the Rod arciad Show.Hey, Rod, I'm going to divert
a little bit. I think thetoughest question that Donald Trump is going to
face tonight is the one about hisconvictions. And I think I have the

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response that he should probably give,and that would be yes, Joe I
was convicted of thirty four felon accounts, none of them included killing anyone.
However, you, mister Biden,should be convicted of killing people because of
your aggressive posture on the vaccines.Very good point. That's a very very

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good point, Uh, Brydon,that's the That's the way to approach it.
How soon do you think in thisdebate tonight, Brian, will the
thirty four or the thirty four convictionsagainst Donald Trump come up? How soon
will the moderators bring that up?They're gonna leave that to last. Yeah,
they're not gonna They're not gonna exploitthat right away. They're gonna lead

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that for the closing argument. Well, and if they do, I think
that's an indication as to where theywant to take this debate. Eight eight
eight five seven O eight zero onezero, triple eight five seven O eight
zero one zero, or on yourcell phone dial pound two fifteen and say,
hey, Rod, what's the firstquestion that you honestly think will be
asked during the debate tonight? Orif you were a moderator, what question

(35:44):
would you like to ask either JoeBiden or Donald Trump? I think Biden
will go first tonight, as Irecall, Donald Trump, by the way,
will have the last word tonight,which is always very very important.
Here's a question that I would love, and I they won't. It's going
to be interesting to see if theyeven approach this. But I would ask

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Joe Biden on a first question tonightbecause this is something the American people are
concerned about. Mister bar Biden,do you feel any responsibility or any accountability
for either the murders or rapes ofwomen in this country by people who shouldn't
be here, illegal aliens who arehere because of your lacked policies on the

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border. Do you feel, misterBiden, any responsibility at all for their
deaths or their rapes of these youngwomen. We had another one happened reported
out of Syracuse, New York today, or an illegal immigrant raped and killed
suffocated a woman and buried your bodyin the Syracuse, New York area.

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Another example of an illegal alien committeea crime here in the United States when
they shouldn't even be here. Now, the Democrats respond, well, at
criminal is a criminal. They're goingto commit crime one way or another.
If they weren't in this country,they wouldn't be doing it in this country.
But they're here illegally, And thatquestion has got to come up tonight

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because I think that's the number oneconcern, or one of the many issues
that the American people are concerned about. It will be interesting to see as
well how quickly they get to theabortion issue, because the Democrats feel that
is a real strong issue for them, and the polls indicate that Joe Biden

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has a stronger grasp of the wholeabortion issue and is more supportive of pro
choice than being pro life. Beinteresting to see how quickly that question comes
up as well. How soon willthey get to the economy, how soon
will they get to immigration? Allare very very important questions. Eight eight
eight five seven, eight zero,one zero, triple eight five seven eights

(37:57):
zer a one zero or on yourcell phone dial pound two fifty and say
hey, Rod. Back to thephones. Let's go to Travis in Farmington's
sit here on the rod Ar Kentchu. Hi, Travis, Hey, Rod,
how are you, sir? I'mdoing well, Travis. What's on
your mind? So I'm wondering ifhe'll bring up the spending, like the
amount of money Donald Trump has spentversus Joe Biden versus Obama. I think

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that'll be an interesting conversation to seeif it's put up. Why do you
think that's important, Travis. Ithink it's kind of important because the spending
was double under Trump and it hasbeen under Biden, and it's also more
than what Obama did in eight years. Yeah, that's true. I think
it would be kind of important totouch on that basis. Yeah, and
how they're going to deal with it. Yeah, and how they're going to
deal with it. I mean,if we want to control inflation. When

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you a Gary, Travis, wehave got to stop spending money. I
mean, we've just got to stop. And Rod, this goes back to
something that I have felt from thevery first time that Donald Trump rans.
If he is such an uber conservativelike he's painted by the mainstream media,
why does he spend so much money? Yeah, yeah, Yeah, I'm

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with you on that, Travis.That's one of my criticisms of mister Trump
is the spending. We have gotto get the spending under control, and
hopefully that is something he'll attempt todo when he's back in the White House,
if in fact, he will be. Come January of next year,
eight eight eight, vibe seven eightzero one zero on your cell phone dial
pound two fifteen and say hey,Rod, are your calls and comments coming

(39:27):
up? On the Rod Arcuat Show. Now we get the story coming out
tonight from Laura Trump who reveals thatCNN is only allowing two people from each
campaign to watch the debate in person. Everyone else will have to watch from
another building, including members of thecandidate's families. I mean, I get
a little tight, aren't they all? Right? If you're driving home tonight,

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I know many of you are rightnow are listening at work or at
home. The question tonight is whatquestion? What do you think is going
to be the first question coming fromJake or Daana Bash tonight? It's gonna
I think that sets the tone ofthe debate. And you may have a
question that you would like to askeither one of the candidates. I shared
one with you already. We've hada couple of people already indicate how they

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would like to approach this debate andwhat question they would ask. Let's go
to the phone and hear more ofyour thoughts on this. We go to
Johnny in Kaesville tonight here on therod our kitchuw Hi, Johnny, how
are you? Hey? What's up? How are you man? I'm good,
I'm good. How are you?This is uh, this is intriguing.
I enjoyed your show today, andI think the first question not to

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be what kind of hairspray is DonaldTrump is? I think that they kind
of break the eyes. So seriously, I think the key to this for
don the president President Trump, Ithink what he needs to do is stay
cool. Yep. I think whathe needs to do is be aggressive,

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but not mean, like if youcall names. No one likes that,
even if it deserves them. Heis to stay cool and aggressive. That's
my key to him. He's gotmy vote anyway, but I'd like to
see him just be cool and aggressive. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you,
Johnny. They're going to try andgo to them, they really are.
They're going to see if they canget under his skin, hopefully.

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You know, he has admitted inthe first debates with Biden back in twenty
twenty he got a little carried away. So I think he's going to go
in this a little bit calmer,a little more relaxed, And I think,
as I said at the start ofthe show tonight, all you do
is have to tell the American peoplethe facts, the fact that everything is
more expensive in this country today,that we have an open border, and

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that open border allows criminals, knowncriminals from Central or South American countries to
come into this country and kill andrape, because we've seen that happen on
several occasions right now. And whenit comes to foreign affairs, you know,
where does he stand. Come on, let's talk about the Mideast.
What do we do about Ukraine?How much more money do the American people

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need to send to Ukraine in thiswar that may never end with Russia.
Those are the facts that he needsto explain the American people and almost ignore
Joe Biden in my opinion, orthe guy. I don't know if he's
going to. You know, JoeBiden is so used to lying, he
may not be able to do thatnow. When he does, lie will
bash or we'll Tapper call him out. I doubt it. Let's go to

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the phones. Let's talk with Mikeand Murray tonight on the rod ARQUITCHO,
Hi, Mike, Hey, greatshows always thank you. Hey. I
just would say, if I wasTrump, I would tell the CNN,
Hey, why don't you skip acouple of questions? Go down to question
four and ask us that that wayhe could know if it was scripted,
and Biden I renew the order.That's a good point. I mean,

(42:49):
there is speculation that he already knowsthe order of what the questions are going
to be. It will be interestingto see what happens there eight eight eight
five seven oh eight zero one zero, triple eight five seven oh zero one
zero, or on your cell phone, all you do is have to dial
pound two fifty and say, hey, Rod, we're asking you tonight,
what question do you think should beasked? What do you think is going
to be the first question? BecauseI think those questions are going to set

(43:14):
the tone for the debate and probablywill give Donald Trump kind of a heads
up as to where this may begoing. Because I wouldn't be surprised if
the first question coming out of oneof the moderators mouths tonight and directed toward
Donald Trump, is mister Trump,will you recognize and accept the results of

(43:36):
the election in November. You cansee it coming, and I think that
may be the first question that hegets tonight. Now I understand according to
the rules, I think Joe Bidenanswers the first question tonight, He'll give
the first answer, and then itwill go to mister Trump. At the
end. However, Donald Trump getsthe final say, and that could be

(43:59):
real, real interesting. A coupleof predictions on this today. First of
all, you know, I thinkJoe Biden will probably exceed our expectations.
He did it the State of theUnion. He has plenty arrest, He's
been prepped for what seven days upat Camp David. And you know,
when the bar is set so lowfor someone, all they have to do

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is exceed the low bar. Anda lot of people will say that as
a win. If he stands upfor ninety minutes, remains lucid, and
appears to be able to grasp thevarious issues facing this country, I think
people will say he's come out ofwinner. Now it wouldn't this be interesting?

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Someone shot this note out today andthey said, wouldn't this be interesting
tonight? What if Donald Trump,during the debate tonight announced his VP pick?
What if he announced it during thedebate. He's already said he's already
made up his mind as to whohe wants to be his running mate.
Hasn't told anybody yet, at leastthat we know of, but he has

(45:07):
said, you know, I've madeup my mind. Wouldn't it be interesting
if he announced his candidate tonight?How you know, how aggressive do you
think Joe Biden is going to betonight? I mean, will he go
after Trump on abortion? You bethe will that that question is going to
come up, even though I don'tthink it's the number one priority for most

(45:29):
Americans in the country today. Howmuch will he bring up January sixth?
And how much is you know,will he during the debate tonight try and
go mister Trump a little bit bycalling him a convicted felon and bring up
the Fine People hoax, which wenow know is a real hoax. And

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on the other side, how aggressiveis Donald Trump going to be to go
after by on illegal immigration? Certainlythat is an issue that the American people
are very very concerned about and howhe brings it up or if the moderators
bring it up. We'll have towait and see. And certainly about the
weaponized justice system. Now, ifhe brings that up, that may open

(46:15):
the door for Biden to go afterhim on the convicted felon point. Now
the other thing tonight, and thisis brand new, and I don't like
this about this debate. If there'sone, you know, I wish there
was a studio audience because I thinkthat feeds the energy of the debate.
And I think Biden didn't want ittoday because he knows that Donald Trump supporters

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are a lot more enthusiastic for DonaldTrump than Joe Biden supporters are for Joe
Biden. You know, a lotof them would like to see another candidate
be real, honest and just thenexample of that, when Trump arrived in
Atlanta just a couple of hours agofor the debate, there was a massive
crowd at the airport cheering him on. And as he was driving in from

(46:59):
the airport into Atlanta and the CNNstudios there, there were people lined up
on bridges along the highway with thesehuge signs Trump twenty twenty four flags,
signs people cheering for him. Theenthusiasm for Donald Trump and for Joe Biden.

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It's such a stark difference. Imean, there was a small crowd
outside the studio when Trump arrived earlieror when Biden arrived earlier today, and
he tried a little bit of retailpolitics by going across the street and shaking
hands. But it was nothing likethe enthusiasm that you would see tonight in
Atlanta as Trump went to the CNNstudios. Now the other thing is,

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like I said, I don't likethe mics being cut off. You don't
let these guys go at each otheragain if they want to. I don't
think I don't think Trump is goingto be as aggressive as he was in
the past. But I don't likethis, this whole thing of muting the
mics. After your time is up, you've got to let them have and
exchange of ideas. And of course, the big question today it's going to

(48:04):
be interesting to watch, is ifthe two men will shake hands. It's
pretty obvious, I think to mostAmericans that these two guys don't like each
other. The Olympics are coming uphere, what near the end of July,
and there is a transgender hurdler outthere who basically says, since they
can't compete in the Olympics, theywant to smash all records. Joining us

(48:30):
on our newsmaker line to talk aboutthat right now is Valerie Richardson, a
national reporter for the Washington Times.Been a while since we've had Valerie on
the show. Valerie, how areyou welcome back to the rod Arquet Show.
Well, thank you, good tobe back. Tell us about this
story involving C. C. Telflerand what she's up on, what he
or she is up to? Yeah. C. C. Telfer is an

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interesting case because long before Leah Thomashad appeared on anybody's radar, CC Telfer
had won in twenty nineteen an NCdouble A back and field title. WEC
became the first the first biological maleto win a women's MC double A title
in twenty nineteen. Now, onereason I think it got less attention is
because CC was a student at FranklinPierce, which is a Division two school,

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Division I schools. That's the topprogram, you know, with the
big major SEC universities and all bigten so they tend to get the attention,
not the Division two programs. ButCC holds that that distinction of having,
you know, like the first maleborn transgender athlete to win a women's
title, and CC has since thensought to compete in the Olympics. The

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problem is is that the track andfield authorities sort of postly A. Thomas,
started tightening their rules and CEC hasnot been able to qualify as a
result. CEC tried to compete inthe Tokyo Olympics, which were supposed to
be twenty twenty but ended up beingin twenty twenty one, could not meet
USA USA Track and Field testosterone standard, and now SEC's pretty much, you

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know, never going to make theOlympics because World Athletics, which is the
international governing body, they came outlast year with a new set of rules
saying that basically, if you've gonethrough mail suberty, you can't compete on
the women's side. And CEC didn'ttransition until college. It sounds like she's
a little ticked off. Is thatfair to say? Valerie? Well,

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I, you know, I guesslook at it from Cecy's perspective. After
winning this twenty nineteen title, Ithink the idea was, I'm going to
go out there and become you knowthis you know, storied hur later and
won all these prizes and then allof a sudden the rules started tightening up,
and so that hasn't happened. Butinterestingly, Cecy has still been able
to compete. There are any numberof invitationals and track competitions out there that

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are typically entered by collegiate students,but Cecy's been able to inter a number
of these as a quote unattached runnerand has, as far as I'm can
tell, I has done pretty well. And he vowed after basically after the
world as a lot of trules camedown, CC had an interview with them
magazine, which is an LGBTQ publicationinstead, you know, you know,

(51:09):
my dreams were taken away from meonce more again. So I plan on
going to New England, hitting upall the indoor competitions and taking all the
names, all the records and everything. So that obviously got a lot of
people's attention. I mean, youknow, if any competition that cc caund
run in, Cecy's presumably going tobe a you know, a top contender.
So even though CCS can be alittle older twenty nine years old.

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But yeah, that drew a lotof attention, including from people like Riley
Gaines who were saying, okay,Riley said that entitlement absolutely detached from reality,
one hundred percent narcissism, wreaking ofit. So, you know,
Valerie, I had never heard ofCC Tailfer before this was she kind of
really under the radar and really didn'tget any attention until Leo Thomas showed up.

(51:55):
Yeah. CC completely flew under theradar in twenty nineteen. Very few
people noticed that, you know this, this biological male had just one a
women's track and field title, LikeI said, one big reason because it
was division two, not division one. But once once Lea came out three
years later and won in twenty twentytwo a division one title women's swimming title.

(52:16):
Then CC started to get a lotmore attention because people were saying,
it's the summer heaving wren boom.It turns out it had so so yeah,
I think I think CC sounds likea CEC's kicked off about this whole
thing and as a result is goingto be inter And it's interesting. CC
is actually from the New England area. Franklin Pierce University is in New Hampshire,

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but I think one reason the CCis talking about entering the New England
competitions is because no New England statehas a say woman's sports law. Wow.
The Democratic legislators legislatures up there havenot passed any of these laws,
which means there's no ban on biologicalmales competing in female classic sports in high

(52:58):
school or college. The one statethat actually might change that, though,
is New Hampshire. Right now,Governor Chris snunu Is is if he doesn't
have it on his desk now,he soon will a Fairness in Woman's Sports
Act that would would bar male more. It would bar you competing based on
gender identity between in scholastic sports betweenthe grades of five and twelve. But

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they don't cover college. But itdoes cover you know, e lead high
school sports. Valerie, is itfair to say that her Olympic hopes have
been completely dashed? I mean somethingwould drastically have to change for her to
get into the Olympics, wouldn't it. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, I
mean World Athletics would have to completelychange its standard, and I don't think
it's going to do that. WorldAthletics came under a lot of pressure when

(53:43):
all this was happening to tighten uptheir standard basically to keep the biological mails
out, and it did, asdid World Aquatics, which is the swimming
the swimming a standard. Leah Thomaswas unable to compete, you know,
in the Olympic swimming trials this year, one reason of which is World Aquatics
now says no, you have tocan't have gone to mail puberty and Lea
obviously had so interesting interesting story.Val has always great chatting with you.

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Thank you for joining us tonight.Thank you so much. This to be
on all right, Valie Richardson,She is a national reporter at the Washington
Times talking about this transgender track starwho wants to smash all the records after
the Olympics said she cannot compete inon the Olympic level. All right,
more coming up on the rod ArkKent Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh

(54:27):
five nine. K and R asked, all right, we didn't get a
chance to talk to my next guestyesterday. He was kind of busy,
apparently taking care of patience. It'skind of important, don't you think he's
a doctor, he's an attorney,he's a state center and possibly could soon
be a member of Utah's congressional allegation, and we're talking right now about Senator
State Senator Mike Kennedy joining us onour Newsmaker line right now, Mike Cowari,

(54:50):
and congratulations to you for your victoryon Tuesday night. Thanks for having
sorry mister yesterday, I was patient. I really wanted to talk to well,
you know, in a way,Mike, he's kind of a patient.
He needs all the help he canget. By Congratulations again on your

(55:14):
win on Tuesday in the primary.What did it take for you to win?
What was the message that you thinkstruck with most of the voters there
in the third Congressional district. ThanksRod, the reality behind the good people
of Utahs. They recognize our borderas a disaster and the feckless Biden administration
and the way that they've approached thisis a reflection of nonsense. We need

(55:34):
to get people that are willing tofocus on the out of control government spending
that's driving our inflation up so peopleare having to put basic necessity on credit
cards. We need to fix thesethese problems that are fixable, like our
border, but we need people withcommon sense and willingness to get their hands
dirty trying to work through the complexityof trying to get Congress to do anything
that's useful anymore. So they sawme as a kind of problem solver.

(55:59):
I'm a pragmatic conservative willing to stepin and make things better. And I
do that as a professional on aregular basis, small business owner, attorney
as well, and I can dothat in Washington, DC and the good
people of Congressional District three saw that, and we're willing to give me their
votes, and I'm honored to havethem. Mike, how much do you
hope to be able to focus onthe whole healthcare issues that we have in

(56:21):
this country today? Being a doctor, you have knowledge about all of this.
How much energy do you hope todo to vote to trying to do
whatever we can to fix the healthissues that we have in this country today.
Our national debt is a primarily drivenby Medicare and Medicaid and social Security.
And as a healthcare provider for twentyfive years, I've worked inside Medicare

(56:42):
and Medicaid. I know those fromthe inside, and already, Rod,
I've had people reaching out to mefrom the healthcare industry who see me as
somebody on the doctor lawyer side ofthings, and also as an experienced state
legislator that could bring some opportunities tothose health care systems Medicare and Medicaid that
actually can drive our national debt downby saving money but at the same time

(57:05):
still deliver exceptional healthcare. I've alreadygot a bunch of ideas plus people that
are reaching out to me, andI think there's so much that we can
do. But let me give youthis route really is the answer Washington,
DC for these things now. Infact, when it comes to that the
states, for example, on Medicaid, we should do block grants to the
states for Medicaid. There's so muchinnovation that our states could bring the Medicaid

(57:28):
that would not only save money butdeliver exceptional care. Because the federal government
controls that, they won't allow thosekind of things. I'm a big fan
of block rands. Mike, youhad to you had four other competitors in
your race. It was a crowdedfield. How do you think you were
able to cut through. Let's let'sgo back even before that route, and

(57:51):
we went on that down through theConvention of five. I was the only
one that made it out of convention. But I had four signature gathers,
and I'll be honest, Rave,these were all good people, decent people.
Everybody coming in as patriots wanted tomake the place better from different perspectives,
but people saw me as somebody withexperience and willingness to listen to,
somebody who was willing to get outthere and walk the streets. Right We

(58:14):
were knocking doors, we were canvassingby going door to door to Republican voters.
We were working the parades, andwe've worked four parades in the past
three weeks, actually five parades inthe past four weeks. That that sort
of retail politics, shaking hands andsaying hi to people at their doors,
and we made thousands of phone callsand we were diligent. It's not just

(58:36):
a matter of advertisement. It's notjust a matter of mailers. That retail
politics really really showed the people thatI was willing to be with them.
I wanted to know what that wason their minds, and I think that
was one of the distinguishing factors aswe became victorious with this race. Mike,
what is the toughest part of campaigningin your opinion, I've always heard
the fundraising is an issue that somethingthat candidates do not like to do.

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What, in your opinion, isthe toughest part of campaigning. I believe
that when it comes to that,the convention caucus process has it right.
It's a four shortened period and itis you can get You can get on
people's doors and in their homes andactually talk to them face to face.
The hardest thing. And that's whereI've heard you say, and I totally

(59:22):
understand where you're coming from, thatwe should kind of lengthen the process.
You know, when you lengthen theprocess, you turn it over to the
guys with money. Yeah, itcosts a ton of money. And if
we went into September, as Ithink i've heard you say before, you
know what, it's going to breakdown people that don't have millions of dollars
and they're going to lose, becauseultimately, with enough commercials and enough money

(59:42):
to buy those commercials, you canwin. So I think the hardest thing
about politics is the fact that itcosts a lot of money. But with
hard work, grit, and enoughmoney. Here's the thing, right,
it's really interesting. We are outspent, we estimate by four to one in
this race. Maybe even five toone. But because I've done a few
different things running for US Senate intwenty eighteen, that helped passing a ban

(01:00:07):
on transgender surgeries on miners. Inthe money twenty three, that helped the
fact that I've got in Utah County, which is the vast majority of the
voters in CD three. I haveworked and loved and served the people of
Utah County for twenty twenty years,and I've been course professional in that area.
People know who I am, theyknow what I represent, and they
were willing to support me in thisrace. So it's just it is the

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retail politics and the money that isIt's hard. I love the retail side
of seeing the people. The moneyis a big deal, and the more
money, the more it favors thewealthy, and that's not good for a
political system. Mike, We're aboutless than thirty five minutes now away from
the debate tonight involving President former PresidentTrump and President Joe Biden. What are
you looking for tonight in that debate, Mike, Go get him Donald Trump.

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Donald Trump focuses on his record becausehis record is so much better than
o'biden's, and if he can focuson his record and not focus on his
personal grapes or whatever he might do. He can distinguish himself because most of
the people in the United States aregoing to focus on this debate tonight.
What they want to see is somebodywho's going to solve the problems in the

(01:01:15):
United States of America and not justfight for the sake of fighting. And
I appreciate and we all know DonaldTrump is a fighter. But if he
can focus on his policy wins,which there were a lot of them,
and point out the failures of theBiden administration, I think hands down he's
going to destroy his opponent and winthis election in November. So that's what

(01:01:36):
I hope he'll do and get notget baited. We all know Joe Biden
with whatever medicines are going to useto kind of stimulate him to try to
try to perform tonight because he's goingto try debate Donald Trump and make him
say things that focus on himself insteadof on America, and we all I

(01:01:57):
want to see somebody who's focused onmaking the United States in America and the
strongest, best country on the planetas it is, but it needs help
to continue in that direction. Yeah, it does. I hope to see
all right, Hey, Mike,always great chatting with you. Congratulations on
your win on Tuesday, and goodluck now in November. Thank you,
Mike, thanks for having me onround. All right. That is a

(01:02:17):
state center. Mike Kennedy the winnerof the primary and the Utah's third congressional
district. Of course, we're replacingJohn Curtis, who is now in the
race for the US Senate. MikeKennedy winning there and getting ready for his
race come November. Really great guy. Happy for Mike. He's a you
know, doctor uh an attorney anda really good family guy and a very

(01:02:38):
hard worker up at the state capitolif you talk to people up there as
well. All Right, Mark comingup here on the rod Ark Kent Show
and Utah's Talk Radio one oh fivenine k A n RS. What makes
it real interesting about this debate today? It is eleven weeks between this debate
and the one that will be heldin September. Between those two days,

(01:03:00):
Donald Trump will face sentencing on sevento eleven. The Republican National Convention will
take place in Milwaukee on seven fifteen, Greg and I will be there broadcasting
our show from there on the fifteenth. The Democratic Convention is on August nineteenth,
so it eats eleven weeks now betweenthis one and the second debate,

(01:03:23):
if in fact there is a seconddebate, and a lot of people are
wondering if that's if it's bad forJoe Biden this time, will he do
a second debate? Well, no, starting in about twenty one minutes,
all right, I want to moveinto a different topic though. A few
years ago US Surgeon General the VicMurphy, Murphy, i should say,
used his position to assist the Bidenadministration as you recall, and their censorship

(01:03:47):
efforts because of the COVID nineteen pandemic. Well, now he's up to something
new. He wants to do thesame thing to the Second Amendment, declaring
gun violence is a public health crisis. Well, joining us on our Newspaker
line right now to talk more aboutthat is our good friend Clark, a
potion host of Gun Radio Utah andwith the Utah Shooting Sports Council. Clark,

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how are you welcome back to therod Arcuatshew, Rod, It's always
fun to be on with you.And okay, so so vivec VIVEC Murphy.
Three years ago, remember in hisSenate confirmation hearings he's talking about and
he says, hey, I amnot going to use He specifically said,
I will not use my position asgeneral to to to be on the bully

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pulpit to talk about guns. Ohno, I'm going to talk about obesity
and drug use and mental health.Well, he lied, his pants are
on fire. He lied, helied, You lied. And you know,
I wonder if they're going to takethis public health crisis or emergency.
I wonder if they're going to doas well with this new epidemic as skillfully
as they did with the kung flu. And you know, in fact,

(01:04:57):
Kasey Jane Kate I was explaining thisto Tasey Gain and she says, does
this mean more vaccinations and maths andsocial distancing? So you know, this
is this is their way of saying, don't look over here at the actual
data. No, look over here, and let's not blame the criminals for
their criminal acts of murder and mayhem. No, let's blame like like they

(01:05:23):
did. Nobody blamed the person thatgot COVID. They blamed COVID itself.
So they want to blame the guns. They don't want to blame the criminal
for committing murder. Oh no,it's it's not your fault you killed somebody.
It's the fault of easy access toguns, no background checks. That's
the that's why you committed it,even though today four hundred million guns didn't

(01:05:45):
commit any crimes. You know.Anyway, it's it's it's obviously a new
way for the administration to demonize gunsand essentially weaponize a public health emergency in
a crisis, because everybody looks thatway when they start talking about it.
Well, let's talk about that.I mean, what on earth what good

(01:06:05):
does declaring guns a public health crisisdo? I mean, what does a
do? Clark? Well, ittakes the attention off of what the real
the failed policies of the blue statemayors, the blue state governors, and
this blue you know, the blueadministration. They're failed policies. They don't

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they don't Well, they arrest thecriminals. Hey, the cops are doing
a fantastic job, but they don'tprosecute them more. They let them out
of jail or they have no bailwhatsoever. I mean, look at look
at Michelle Grisham in New Mexico.So she decided that she declared well,
about a year ago, a publichealth crisis, and under that emergency,
those are my air quotes the emergency, she was able to ban people from

(01:06:54):
carrying firearms in public places. Andthey said she got sued for it and
it was struck down. But stillshe said this, Oh, no,
I could do it as governor becauseit's an emergency. Well, hey,
I ran some numbers. You wantto know, some numbers, you want
to talk. Utah is basically thea number one state for permissive use of

(01:07:15):
firearm fersa of having that you canhave what you want everything. Yeah,
and not New Mexico, not California. California three times the homicide triple all
homicide rate, New Mexico seven timesare homicide rate. And you find this
consistently with blue state, the bluecities, with blue mayors and blue governors.

(01:07:39):
You find it consistently. How isit that we have so much access
to firearms yet we have the fourth, maybe the fifth lowest homicide rate in
this entire nation. That's what theyif they want to have a laboratory of
sorts of one of these medical terms, Hey, let's have a laboratory and
compare California and New Mexico and Utah. Well, why not declare a public

(01:08:02):
health crisis with the mental illness thatgoes on in this country today? Why
not address those issues? Clark?Do they not know how to do it?
Do they not want to do it? I mean, what why not
address those issues? Because that doesn'tdemonize guns? Okay, because they don't
care. They just frankly don't care. These are not dim people. They're

(01:08:26):
they're they're intelligent, you know,a slive maybe like a box or so
to speak, but they know.And that's that's not if they want to
feed you that guns are bad.Guns are just terrible, even though you
know, just look at the states, look at the homicide rates it.
But but they don't want to showthat. They want to say, look
over here, it's not about mentalhealth. I mean even they're the staff

(01:08:50):
that they keep. They love touse, is that the leading cause of
death for children and adolescents is firearms? Oh yeah, yeah, Okay.
You have to tweak the metric,the data metric enough to fit your
narrative or it doesn't work. Theylove to use the word kids and children.
When I think of kids and children, I'm thinking of eight, nine

(01:09:13):
and ten year old yes, yeah. They they include adults eighteen and nineteen
year olds and they don't include lessthan one year olds because that would skew
it. I run the numbers.The age is eighteen and nineteen in their
study account for as many homicides asdo the one to seventeen combined. Wow.

(01:09:33):
Wow, Yes, Yet they're stuckon. But they want to they
want to get that demonization. Theywant to tugget your at your emotions and
say it's the kids. You knowwhat we have been doing, instructors and
permit holders and that have been doingmore to protect these kids than this administration
and its lackeys will ever do.Yeah, that's for sure. Well Clark

(01:09:54):
has always great chatting with you.Enjoy your program every Saturday. Thanks man,
Enjoy the rest of the week.Will listen to you on Saturday.
Thanks Clark. Thanks Rod all rightClark Opposion. He is a host of
gun Radio Utah. You hear itevery Saturday afternoon right here on Talk Radio
one oh five nine K and areat Charlie Kirk posted on his media page

(01:10:16):
this thing that a man put onTikTok. He re ordered his identical Walmart
shopping list from twenty twenty two forforty five items. Listen to what he
found out. I feel like I'llgo be sick. I just like looked
through my Walmart history and I foundthis, like Walmart order from two years

(01:10:36):
ago for the whole month worth ofgroceries. And he looked at that.
He looked at that list, andhere's what he came up with. So
he took those items. Okay,forty five items in twenty twenty two,
it cost one hundred twenty six dollars. That's twenty twenty two. Two years
later, those same forty five itemsfrom Walmart, same store, same items

(01:11:04):
cost four hundred and fourteen dollars.Today. That's the issue that Donald Trump
needs to attack Joe Biden on today. You know, economy the number one
issue along with immigration in this countrytoday. But in twenty twenty two,

(01:11:25):
when you could buy items from Walmart, forty five items for two hundred and
sixteen dollars or one hundred twenty sixdollars, that seems like a pretty good
deal. Today those same items willcost you four hundred and fourteen dollars.
When I talk about the economy,it is the number one issue. As

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Carvel said many years ago, itis the economy stupid, and that's exactly
what needs to be found out.And now Biden today he's going to claim
that he inherited nine percent in flfrom Donald Trump. That was that was
short lived. A New Time NewYork Times article the other day limited Biden's

(01:12:08):
assertion faults. Year over year inflationwas one point four percent in January of
twenty one when mister Biden took office. It peaked at nine point one percent
in June of twenty twenty two,more than a year into his presidency,
and has fallen to three point threepercent in May. Now he's blaming everything

(01:12:30):
on it, but we know thecause of this. You talk to any
economists out there, and what theywill tell you is it is federal spending,
massive out of control federal spending whichis driving inflation in this country today.
And hopefully Donald Trump, if heis elected come November to be president
of the United States again, hewill make this a number one priority.

(01:12:55):
He's got to look at that cameratonight almost ignored job Joe Biden tonight and
talk to people about the fact thatthey're paying more for just about everything in
this country today. The streets aren'tsafe and We're seeing evil alliances being formed
around the world with the intent onSunday going after the United States

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