The Rod and Greg Show: GOP Tricks not working on Trump; GOP Budget Bill; Americas future depends on Doge

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You gotta gear up.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Hing Man Wednesday is this special special rotting Greg Show episode,
and so it's a and of course all the big
stuff happens on wing Man Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
So uh, we've got we've got big stuff in stores.
That what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Oh, yes, this this show is going to blow your mind,
ladies and gentlemen. I don't know how much of today
you've been tracking. H but as you're on your drive
time home tonight, we're going to give you all the
deats all that's about how the kids call.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Details called the deats the deeps.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yep, we're giving you the deats and we're going to
just dissect all the different information that's coming out because
there's a lot of stuff happening.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, a lot going on, a lot going on today.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
Yeah, So welcome, Welcome. It's stock Radio on a five
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Speaker 1 (00:40):
Greg Show ring Men, Wednesday. Great to be with you today.
We have got Utah getting a little bit of recognition
nationally today.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
I wouldn't even say this is a little I'd put
this in the big column Big Wall Street Journal, which
is a paper of record, yes, as you could call it.
I looks to Utah and it's editorial board. This isn't
just getting on you know as a as an individual
and you know published at journal editorial board collectively in
the headline says, Utah breaks the public union cartel talking

(01:11):
about the bill that that ends the party for governments,
and uh, it is it's high praise. It's high praise
for the state of Utah. This bill was a tough
one to pass, and I think there's going to be some,
uh some aftermath to this bill. I don't think unions
go down easily. I think they may try to put
something on a ballot to try and reverse it. But
it's nice that Uh. Wall Street Journal, it's editorial board

(01:34):
says that that Utah has done something that has been
long overdue.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
As it points out, apparently North and South Carolina have
similar measures. Utah's is a little bit stronger, according to
the Wall Street Journal, and it is nice recognition. I
had I had a call from a friend over the weekend.
I think I was telling you this, Greg and they
had a friend over she was a teacher, okay, and
for dinner, uh, and just was railing on what the

(02:00):
governor did when it come to this collective bargaining bill
had a friend call me and explained, Hey, can you
tell me why this is such good bill? And I
went on to tell them all the issues surrounding the bill.
So there are people out there pushing and you're right, Greg,
you may see, you may see an effort to try
and derail this bill, but the governor signed it. So
here we go.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
I'll tell you this, you know, and we saw a
bill that was that raised the IYRE. I would say
of the teachers union way way back, I think in
seven six million dollars in seven money, so I don't
know what that'd be today, but a lot more than
six or seven million was put into it. A referendum
to reverse the legislature's action on school choice. That was

(02:37):
this successful endeavor by the unions, and I would expect
that there will be some similar investment in a referendum
or in a ballot measure. But I got to tell
you the other side of this coin, those that are conservative,
right of center that want to want to see what
you is doing, really just trying to avoid what some
of the states like Illinois and New York State there

(02:59):
so there's upled by their collective bargaining retirement situations. All
the different things they have. It is really it's not
been good. We're avoiding that as a state. But I
think there's going to be a robust campaign, but only
those groups that are similar to unions but are right
of center to come in and also help inform people
on what they'll be considering if a ballot measure makes

(03:20):
it on the.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Pay good recognition, but it is good. It is a
Wall Street Journal today for the state of Utah. All right,
here's what we're going to be talking about with each
other and with you as you work your way home tonight.
The old GOP tricks that Donald Trump encountered in his
first term in office, they just aren't working anymore. We'll
talk about that a little bit later on. Is it
now or never time for America's future? And we're all

(03:42):
pose this question to our listeners as well. Is it
now our never time? When it comes to America's future?
We're talking about getting hold of this monstrosity Greg called
the deep state before it's too late, because if we
don't get a hold of it now, I don't know how,
we how or when we will be able to do that.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
So we have every reason to be optimistic. We are
seeing movement. We're seeing, we're understanding a waste and fraud
and abuse and details with receipts that we've never seen before.
We'll get into some of that during the program. There's
some examples that will again, it'll continue to blow your
mind every time we talk about this. You think we've
hit the end. We haven't. There's just more that they
are uncovering by the day. But if this isn't the moment,

(04:21):
if this doesn't do it, because we're getting we just
were pulling that rock back and all the all the
all the little bugs are scurrying. If this isn't the moment,
I don't I'd like to know which one what the
moment would look like if it's not right now. So
let's well, do you want to know what our you know,
there's there's there's reasons to be skeptical because it is Washington,

(04:42):
d C. There is a swamp. But boy, I'll tell
you what if you if you if you're a half
glass full guy, this is I think this is the shot.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
This could be the moment. We'll talk about that. Uh.
The President's uh, you know, big beautiful Bill has cleared
its first hurtle the the US House and Congressman Mike
Kennedy will join us a little bit later on and
we talk about that and get his reaction to it.
So a lot to get to today, but I want
to start off the show. Greg, you were mentioning the
Wall Street Journal. I guess the left is losing its

(05:13):
mind today after Jeff Bezos, who is the owner of
the Washington Post, announced a new direction for the Washington
Post opinion page. He said, we'll be talking about personal
liberties and we'll talk about free enterprise. And that's the
direction that the Washington Post is going. And I gues
he went to the editor of the opinion page at

(05:34):
the Washington Post and said, Hey, this is the direction
we're going. Are you with us or are you a
guin us? And the guy said I'm aginya And Jeff
Bezos said, all right, see you later. So it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
The letter was really fascinating, and Queen Bee sent it
to me this morning. Jeff Bezos letter, he said, and
he writes this in his letter to the staff into
the people Washington Post, but the letter's been made public.
If you're to the opinion editor, he said, if your answer,
because he wants to have these pillars of freedom, economic freedom,
and individual liberty. If these aren't the pillars in which

(06:07):
all opinion pieces will stem from in the United States
of America, if your answer to this direction isn't hell, yes,
then it needs to be no. And he said no, no, yeah,
is that something else or what I mean?

Speaker 1 (06:21):
You know he's seen and the media, you know, the
Washington Post, they are freaking out today over this direction
that he's taking. And you think about this, Greg You've
got two of the three biggest newspapers in the country
today maybe four, Okay, you had Jeff Bezo, it's taking
over the Washington Post, changing direction, the guy who bought
the La Times, and what he has done with the

(06:43):
La Times. It's just interesting to see how corporate America
moves into ownership of these newspapers.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
He has, he has joined. Jeff Bezos wrote it something
on social media saying, welcome to the party tow we're
doing this over here at the La Times. I've changed,
I've changed course. We're we're going to do this too.
Thing that Bezos said, Look, if you can't, if we
can't rally around and have an opinion page that it
really does exemplify and really emphasize individual liberty and economic

(07:12):
free markets. Then then then that's that is the essence
of America, and any any question, what would if you
want to argue other than that, go to the internet.
There's plenty of people that want to rip on this
country or its freedoms. But that's not what we're about.
That isn't that isn't taking away journalistic integrity. It's not
it's not censoring them. It's to say that we don't

(07:33):
want that's what China's for, okay, or Russia. If you
want someone to just rip on all the facets of
free individual freedom in this country, go find an enemy
of the state, because they have lots to say on that.
But that's not that shouldn't be our It shouldn't even
have to be stated in such stark terms. But here
we are, and they and the regime media hates this country,

(07:54):
hates every institution we have, and has done nothing to
try to tear down every foundational institution we having. His country,
that's all they've been interested in.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Well, and I think he has recognized the times Greg
I think somewhere I thought I read him saying the
days when the newspaper would land on your driveway, and
you would go out and get it and read the
newspaper for the day's news are long gone. People get
their news on the internet like that anymore. So he's
recognizing that. I think he's trying to take the Washington
Post in a different direction. And it's his newspaper. You know,

(08:24):
people are complaining, But guess what he signs the checks.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
He sure does money. So you know what, I'm loving it.
I'm telling you this is this is making me bullish
about America's future.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
I'm bullish.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
All right. We'll get into that issue as well, coming
up a little bit later on in the show. Great
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Speaker 1 (09:18):
I think you just called. I think you've just done.
Some of our colleagues in this building who've also been
they feel guilty.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
They you know, they can take my words anyway they want.
I'm just saying, this show, with this audience.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
A smart come, a huge audience, you're.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Just saying, it's as like it's like shooting fish in
a barrel this contest. When we got our audience.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
A massive audience engaged. All right, let's talk about what's
going on in Washington courts. The President holding his first
cabinet meeting today turned out up be quite the cabinet Meetia.
We'll get into this a little bit later on, but
you know, Donald Trump, and you know the people that
he brought in, Greg Washington has really changed. You talk
to people, they say, there are people who are nervous

(09:59):
a cats right now because they don't know what dog's
going to do, what it's going to do with his
various departments. But the old time Republicans, we're talking the
like like the Mike Pences, the Mitt Romney's the Mitch
McConnell's Guess what the tricks they used on Trump the
first time are not working this time. Let's find out why.
Joining us on our news maker line is Chris Bedford,

(10:21):
he writes for The Blaze, Chris, thanks for joining us, Chris.
Why have things changed?

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Oh, there's so much In the first term Donald Trump's
first term, a lot of Republicans understood, of course, that
he was the president, he was allegedly in charge of
the party. But on Capitol Hill they didn't really want
to change their tune. They did learn essentially that if
you you could continue doing whatever you wanted to on
tax policy or foreign policy or even immigration, so long
as you said the right words. Basically, they changed the

(10:49):
Trump's tumb but didn't change the lyrics. And there's a
lot of reasons they got away with that. The vice
president was someone who kind of agreed with them. Vice
President Mike Tunce was much more in line with those
old school kind of Bush Air Republicans. At the same time,
the make America Great Again kind of governing philosophy hadn't
really been formed yet. There's a couple of things that
are pretty clear, like build the wall, but it hadn't

(11:13):
really been thought out, It didn't have the think tank backgrounds.
The personnel all came from Bush and Romney and everyone else.
And after four years in the wilderness, all of that
has changed. On one level, you've got eight years now
of a sharpening ideas for what MAGA actually wants to accomplish,
worked out in think tanks, worked out by veterans of
previous administrations and thought leaders outside of it. On the

(11:36):
second hand, you have White House personnel which are committed,
are people who really know what they're sending for what
they want to do. You can see that reflected in
the efficiency and the lack of leaks. And the last
thing I think a major part of this is Vice
President jad E. Vance, who's been extremely active, extremely involved
in negotiations both the carrot and the stick, willing to

(11:57):
jump on Twitter and attack ideas from senators were saying, well, I
just want to do what Trump wants, and also willing
to meet with senators at one in the morning to
try and get confirmations over the line in the White House.
So all of those come together and the old song
and dance the Republicans are saying, listen, I'm going to
oppose what the president wants to do because that's what
the president really wants. Is not flying anymore.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
So, not until Doge really got underway and we started
to see from sources like Data Republican and the search
engine there, did I have any comprehension of the amount
of money in the billions, maybe trillions that have been
shuttled from NGOs to nonprofits. This deep state and this
uniparty makes way more sense to me now because it

(12:40):
looks like it's just a cottage industry. Let me ask you,
do you think that the uniparty, which I always believe
they voted weirdly similarly and did all the things you
just described in Trump's first term, do you think the
uniparty is on its heels? Do you think it's just
weathering a storm. What's the fate of those that like
to say the right things but they want to do

(13:01):
it their own way versus really substantive and change here
going forward.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
They're absolutely absolutely on their heels. Ruish O'Connell gave a
speech just a week or two after Trump's resounding electoral victory.
He told the crowd of AI donors and staff that
he was going to be a resistance piece against Donald
Trump in the US Senate. He wasn't going anywhere. I don't.
I think he definitely expected to be able to think
some nominations, and he tried his best and was unable

(13:29):
to get even Calsey Gabbard, who is surprised that he
was a very controversial pick. And at the same time,
a lot of the you've kind of co opted some
of the bigger voices. You have Mark Rubio, who used
to be pretty pretty darn hawkish and fall in with
that wing, now leading the charge for MAGA foreign policy
as Secretary of State. I was just minutes ago in

(13:50):
the in the first cabinet meeting being or a few
hours ago, seeing Mark Rubya sitting next to Trump and
right next to him as a representative of what the
administrations trying to do. At the same time, a lot
of his USAID stuff was kind of a neo con grist.
It was a great place for a lot of these
different places to have republican or democracy in their title,

(14:13):
to get millions and millions and millions of dollars, and
all of that money drives up very quickly. You're absolutely
on your heels, but it doesn't mean, it's beaten. There
are certain things that are going on right now, like
President Trump's executive order barrings are taking away security clearances
as law firms have gone after him, which is something
that's largely been practiced by other power players. You know,
Washington DC better for years, but it's now just starting

(14:35):
to be used for this. And if law firms and
corporations and other groups that back the deep state start
to learn that there will be consequences for what they do,
the graver training will end, then you'll really see some
change here.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Chris. Do you see a real change in Washington since
Donald Trump has come in? I mean, you know, his
first his first term was difficult. I think most people
realize that you can't quite have a handle on things.
Do you get a sense that's really really different this time?

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Completely?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
He's got a political legitimacy that he did not have
an insurance administration. Whether they claimed Russian collusion or whatever.
People thought of him as an irritation in their long
arc of history that Neil liberalism was still on the ascent.
He was an ugly intruder who would soon enough be removed,
and then both Republicans and Democrats could go back to

(15:28):
the where the things were since then. When you combine
his comeback is winning of the national vote, his rallying
of the GOP, his incredible survival of the assassination attempt.
You put that all together, and you've got someone who's
at the peak of their political power, who's probably one
of the moral, legitimate, and established political figures on the planet.

(15:49):
You've got founding that theor of political coming out and
saying that he's an epoch defining politician and can no
longer simply be dismissed. And you can see that the
signs are less, the protests and mass movement is essentially gone,
the corporations are once again involved in DC politics for
better and for worse, and a sense of normalcy is
actually returned that was completely lacking from twenty twenty one,

(16:13):
twenty seventeen through twenty twenty one.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
So where do Democrats specifically, and maybe rhino Republicans or
those that looked, you know, looked awfully like the Democrats
did that are Republican? Where do they go from here?

Speaker 5 (16:27):
What?

Speaker 2 (16:27):
I haven't heard one thing yet that makes any sense
in terms of what they're doubling down on. What's your
assessment of where Democrats go to try and overcome the
wave or the momentum that President Trump's experiencing.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Right now.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Capital Hill Democrats seem lost. They're all over the place.
Some people are willing to stand up and fight. Some
people are just playing possum, as James Carville suggested, they do.
Some of the leaders of the Democratic Party, though, the
governors that you want to look at, people who are
on the short list for possible presidential nominations in the future,
well they've dialed back their rhetoric. They're still saying things

(17:04):
like you saw the governor of Illinois, Pritzkier come out
and say that Donald Trump's consolidation of power in his
rise and the GOP is very much like Adolf Hitler
in the Nazis thin. It's a serious, serious stretch. But
if you look at what they're actually doing, not just
Gavin Newsom but others, they're trying to moderate their legislatures,
moderate their policy, try to cut things that are going

(17:24):
to be difficult for them that the voters have rejected,
whether in Illinois it's millions and millions and millions of
dollars going to healthcare for legal immigrants, or whether it's
in California money, sax payer money going to support house
house purchases by illegal immigrants. Those things are being cut
by governors who I think are trying to take the temperature.
The question for them, of course, is going to be

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they were in power during a kind of a left
wing revolution of twenty twenty to twenty twenty five, so
they've all been complicit at some point or another, and
some of these much more liberal policies. Then they're going
to try and push right now, Can there moderation right
now actually get some of those voters back. They're they're
they're putting a finger in the wind, and those are

(18:06):
the ones to watch because they seem to know what's
going on more than DC Democrats.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
Chris Bedford, Thank you, Chris. Chris is with the Blade
talking about how the Republicans, the Rhinos and their old
tricks aren't working on Donald Trump anymore. Greg And you
know this is it'll be interesting to see years down
the road. I won't be here, but you will years
down the road.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Don't say yourself short, I can say that about you.
Don't be don't be saying that yourself.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
How historians will view the Trumps second administration. I mean,
there is no doubt. It is the greatest political comeback
I think in the history of this country. And now
I've seen we're seeing another comeback. How his administration is
dealing with Washington this time compared to the first time.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Well, it's historic on so many levels. But when you
when you have a president that had a term and
his next term isn't right after, and he had that
four years in between. Yeah, what you've learned, what you've
been able to reflect on more because you're not still
in the event. I think it's only the second time
it's happened in American history. So I think we're going
to see really historic results. We're they going to see

(19:12):
that this place is unsalvagable or we're going to save it,
one of the two. I don't think there's anything in
between right now.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
All right, more coming up on the Rod and Greg
Show as this transformation is taking place, you know, and
I think we're in the very early stages of finding
out what this bureaucracy is all about. You had another
one today. We're paying what eight million dollars for an
empty building every month something like that.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, it's it's it's more shocking than that. I wish
it was only eight million.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Was it eighteen million a day a month.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
A month for building and absolutely empty building building and this,
and they, yeah, they have been. If you can get
your head around this, it's it's it's just again, it's
I think it's corruption. I think this is graft a
former ICE employee that used to work for ICE, and
he was part of the buying transition team, joined a
company family Endeavors in early twenty twenty one. In twenty twenty,

(20:03):
they're that company. Their portfolio is eight point three million dollars.
They got a single source contract to hows immigrants okay,
over the you know that would overflow from the licensed
care place. Since March of twenty twenty four, HHS has
paid eighteen million dollars a month this to this for

(20:23):
this facility that's empty. And they have been paying two
hundred and fifteen million dollars annually. And right now the
license occupancy is less than twenty percent of the license facility,
so that overflow is not needed at all. They're only
twenty percent full in the official facility.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Well, does America's future depend on Doze joining us? Now?
On our newsmaker line to talk about that is Jeffrey Tucker.
Jeffrey is a good friend, had him on the show before.
He's a founder director a Brownstone Institute. Jeffrey, is this
a why do you think this is a now or
never moment for America?

Speaker 6 (20:55):
Well, it's been about one hundred years and there's been
a system in place that everybody's just kind of gone
along with, even when we thought we were voting for
the Republican or the Democrat. You know, the more we learn,
the more we realize the system has always been the
same and with very little change, and that's why our
votes have not really mattered. And for once, we have

(21:18):
an administration that's determined to change things, and I mean
from the bottom up. So that's what that they've got
to succeed or else we're toast.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
So and I couldn't agree more. And I think that
our eyes have been soben even just recently with all
the DOGE work and data Republican creating a search engine
where you can watch these NGOs and how they're funneling
billions and billions, maybe even trillions of dollars. It's way
more draconian than I think many of us imagined. So
are are we seeing the beginning of the uniparty going away,

(21:52):
that this is the end of everybody doing it as
they always have and we're just changing jerseys, or are
they just dormant waiting to again. I mean, what do
you think is going to happen with how much information
we have.

Speaker 6 (22:05):
Well, I'm pretty sure that the Trump administration right now
is trying to change things.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
But you know, you're talking about.

Speaker 6 (22:12):
It like a couple of dozen people against three million,
you know.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
I mean, so.

Speaker 6 (22:19):
They're doing a lot, but they're being stopped at every
every turn. I mean, I wrote about dose this morning
on Wall Street Journal. But they have been hamstrung. You know,
they tried to access the Treasury's payment portals for the
first time since nineteen thirty nine. It turns out that
no political appointee or elected politician has actually seen the

(22:46):
payment portals from the Treasury since nineteen thirty nine. They
tried to access them, and they were stopped by a
federal judge, one federal judge, you know, so they've had
to kind of back off. And you know, there's been
a lot of backing off in the last week because

(23:06):
of the federal judges, because of cowardly appointed, you know,
not count Yeah, I mean, like, yeah, it's just they're
doing the best they possibly can, but it's not looking
great right now.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
I hope, I hope that things change.

Speaker 5 (23:25):
I really do.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Jeff Jeffrey, let me ask you this, what took us
so long to figure all of this out? I mean,
like you say, we've been going through this for decades,
if not a century or two. What took the American
people so long to figure out there's something wrong here?

Speaker 7 (23:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (23:40):
Well, I think in this case, we had an unusual
set of circumstances. We had a president who was an
outsider who came to power in twenty sixteen with a
determination to change, but he did not know or understand
the system that he had promised to change. He assumed
he was going to be the CEO of the country

(24:00):
and quickly got out gunned, outsmarted by the press, by
the deep state, by the administrative state, by you know,
the demands of the office and so on, and they
eventually drove him out and you know, thanks to the
COVID thing. And then still I'm glad to say, they
stole the election and twenty twenty so he had four

(24:23):
years to kind of think this through and came back
with ferocity despite all the warfare. They tried to put
him in jail, the threat to steal all of his buildings,
they threatened to destroy his life, they tried to assassinate
him several times, you know, and still he became president.
So now he's determined to change things for the first time,

(24:45):
as you say, in one hundred years. So this is
extremely exciting. But can he succeed? You know, I'm not sure,
because you're facing a beast that's more for and large
and impenetrable than any created in the history of humanity.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
You know, we I sense more the weight of that
now as we're seeing Dog's work and we're seeing how
much we're talking about that could be no show jobs,
could be programs that are sent around the world, are
kept that defend our senses that we couldn't we can't
believe our tax dollars, payer dollars would be used for,
and then how much it's just pocketed, how much, and
how a smaller portion of grants are even sent out.

(25:29):
But the big I think the biggest weapon against government,
federal government spending and pairing it back has been the
demonization of doing it. That you're going to hurt the entitlement,
the Medicaid, the Medicare, social Security. No Republican wants you
to cut the defense budget, but there is just so
much waste. You have this new argument now that you

(25:49):
might not have to hurt a single person, just stop
giving social security people that are hundred so called one
hundred and fifty years old, where you don't have to
spend the money and you might not ever get to
the deep of critical services. Is that a concept that
can be embraced by the American people and create a
political will.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
Well, sadly, I don't know the answer to that. I
agree with what you're just saying. But here's the problem.
We don't really know what's going on. And the reason
is we haven't had access to the portals of money
coming and going, and any institution you have to control
the accounting or you don't control it, you know. So

(26:31):
we're trying to figure this out. We're trying to find out.
I think it's maybe possible that there's more than enough
for revenue coming in to cover all the essential programs
about which people really care, and we can actually change
the system without touching those things. But we just don't

(26:52):
know the answers to that really, and like I said,
Doge was about to find out and then they stopped them. Yeah,
this is the most important thing to my mind. The
most important thing is to get control of the books.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Jeffrey Tucker with the Brownstone Institute joining us on our
newsmaker line, and we're going to get into more of
this in the five o'clock hour and ask you of
your opinion, for your opinion if this is a now
or never time for the future of America that's coming
up right here on the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
I'm Rod Arquette, I'm Citizen Hughes. Let's all get in
the van, pass through the Copperhead.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
I'm ready. We are ready to go another hours. You
head home on what you know. I'm looking out the window.
I just went out. Take a look. It's just a
gorgeous day on the outside. I've been able to get
outside today and it's oh, I can just breathing a
little fresh. A lot of inks in this room today.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah from you you yeah, you got to get outside.
You had the anks yesterday, Yeah, yeah, I was a
little anksy yesterday.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
All right. Something happened on the president's first cabinet meeting
today that I don't recall ever happening, Greg. And the
interesting thing about this was the media could not break
away from it because they were all carrying it live
the news channels and they could not break away from it.
And it was I don't know if someone suggested it

(28:13):
to the president or if this was his idea, but
something happened today at the cabinet meeting.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Yes, first cabinet meetings, so they're all gonna they're all
going to be there. The media was there, They had
tons of questions, we got some great clips. But before
it began, the President stopped and he asked for a
word of prayer.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, he asked someone to say that. He said grace,
which would you say? An opening prayer for us? And
I think he turned to the new HUD secretary he
did to do that. But what I think is funny is,
first of all, I love the idea, you know, I
was supported that. Yeah, no problem with that whatsoever. But
the media didn't know what to do with it. They
couldn't break away. I mean, do you know the criticism

(28:50):
they would have gotten if they had broken away from
the start of that prayer.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Such a bunch of he must have been like scratching
a chalkboard for them. They must have been dying having
to listen to it. So a little insight in when
I was a legislative leader and we'd have our joint
leadership meetings House leadership with the Senate leadership. It is
one of the things that the Senate has always done,
and they have always begun those meetings with the word
of prayer. Are you talking on the floor of the Senate, No,

(29:17):
I'm talking about the meetings. So we'll meet just like
that cabinet meeting. So you go in that meeting, you
sit down where the House we're on one side of
the table, the sentence on the other side. Always and
then in their own Senate leadership meetings, I'm told they
start with a word of prayer. I didn't know it's
such a heathen. It didn't really cross my mind. I
was like, Okay, that's great, Senate, let's do it. I
don't have any objection. I quite like it, but I

(29:38):
just it wasn't part of our our habit, but the
Senate always did it. So when I saw President Trump
starting his cabinet meeting having a word of prayer, remind
me of our senators and our senate leadership, how they've
always done that. Now someone will say to me, I thought,
why and Trump do before. Here's what you have to
know about Trump. It might not have been the front
of mind for him to do this, but he is

(30:00):
around himself with incredible leaders where the idea of starting
with a word of prayer is front of mind and
was suggested, and he was more than happy. And I
think given the year, the time he's the times he's
lived through, and who he is today versus who he
started and got first elected back in sixteen, he's a
different guy, yea. And I think he absolutely embraces that

(30:20):
word of prayer. I think he's all in on religious liberties.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
He is not.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
I think he has grown as our president.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
I thought it was a great moment and hopefully they'll
continue it now. On the other side, he ended the
meeting in a rather unusual way today. Tell you, I
mean really speaking to the American people about the state
of America. Listen to what he had to say.

Speaker 8 (30:42):
This country has gotten bloated and fat and disgusting and
incompetently run. I think we had the worst president in
the history of our country.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
He just left office.

Speaker 8 (30:53):
I think he's a disgrace what he's done to our
country by allowing millions of people to come into our
country like that, all of the other things, the inflation
which he caused because of energy and stupid spending to
spend hundreds of millions, trillions and trillions of dollars on
the green new scam, a total scam. I have the

(31:14):
best energy people, the best environmental people in the world
around this table, and they can't even believe he got
away with it.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
And then in leaving.

Speaker 8 (31:22):
Office to send twenty billion dollars here and twenty million
dollars there, and ten million and five million, and they
couldn't spend the money fast enough. And let's get it
out before Trump gets in. Let's just get it out
to anybody.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
So let's see the nation. We're big, fat and bloated. Yes,
is that what it comes down.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
I tell you what, I think he's being kind. I
think it's been a money scam. These guys have been
just they should have ski masks on and guns in
their hands. They have been robbing the public treasury so
blatantly we didn't know it, but boil boy, there were
seats that we're seeing there's some splaining the dew.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
I don't think the American people can keep up with
this greg and it's too bad because it is so
overwhelming the information we're now getting on how money was wasted,
not even you know, on things that people didn't know
anything about. You shared earlier about this organization that was
getting millions of dollars to rent a building that was

(32:19):
simply empty, for crying out loud.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Eighteen million a month for an empty building, and they
have pictures of it online. It's a completely empty building.
It's an overflow. They're only twenty percent filled in their
normal facilities, these overflows eighteen million a month a month
for these empty buildings, and they were doing it and
they're like, yeah, we're not doing that anymore. Well, thank goodness.
I'll tell you. We talked about this when he was
first elected. You asked the question, will to drain the swamp?

(32:45):
And that was a very general term. Will the American
people be able to track it? I think what we're
finding is how you drain a swamp. Everything, even the
protest from the Democrats and the Federal workers so appalled
that you would ask him what they actually did for
a job.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
That is all.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
That is all signs that they are kicking and screaming.
It's kind of like Wizard of Oz. Remember when wiki
Witch of the West got the water thrown on her
and she's like.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Ah, she's kind of melted, a melting up and melt.
That's what.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
That's what's happening to the left in the swamp right now.
They're just getting a lot of water thrown on them.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Well, if you weren't listening before, in the last hour,
we had a great conversation with Jeffrey Tucker, who wrote
an op ed piece today in the Wall Street Journal.
The title of it was American's future depends on Doge. Now,
let me read a couple of things that he said,
because we want to hear from you. We want to
open up the phones to you tonight eight eight eight
five seven eight zero one zero. In your heart of hearts,

(33:38):
do you believe it is now or never for the
future of America? Because there is a huge bureau bureaucratic
state out there that Elon Musk and Donald Trump and
others are trying to tackle, and it is massive. But
listen to what Jeffrey wrote in that article today. He said,
American people. The American people feel increasingly oppressed, taxed, regulated,

(34:01):
spied on, browbeaten, hectored, and harassed. Okay, voting never made
a difference because the politicians no longer controlled the system.
The bureaucracies rule everything. And he goes on to say,
we've come to known this in our gut, which is
why voters trust. The system has eroded as agencies continue

(34:22):
to build power. So how does the US deal with this?
How do we get this under control? Greg? Is it
a now or never moment for this country of ours
because we've got to make.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Some changes eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero
one zero What say you, folks? I mean is this armor?
Are we in the event? And your question are we
going to be able to attrack? Are we going to
be able to demand? Are our elections going to reflect
who we want to lead? To really make the decisions
to cut this budget? Because if you don't like the Republican,

(34:55):
you better change them in the primary. Because if it's not,
it's a Democrat and they don't want to change anything.
They don't want to change that's a bad and a
worse decision. So you've got to get into primaries. If
you don't get the right Republicans doing the hard work,
But really, are we up for that challenge? Because I'm
seeing numbers right here. It might be the very It
might be the case that we don't have to. They
always the Democrats try to terrify Americans, like you know,

(35:15):
they're going to cut and it's actually going to make
your life end. That's what That's what Republicans want to do.
They want to take away all your Social Security, they
want to take away your Medicare or your Medica. They
just try to terrify everybody. There's so much waste that
we really might be able to get rid of this
two trillion dollar deficit and growing by cutting all this
hundreds of millions and then the billions it which you

(35:36):
add up eventually to trillions. They can cut this stuff
and you're not even cutting into the into this the
muscle of a program you're gonna He said that one
of the questions they asked the president was are you
going to Are you going to cut Social Security, Medicare
and medicator? He goes, I've said it so many times,
I don't even know why you're asking question. Will we
look for fraud in those places? You better believe we will, Well,
we look for people being paid that don't exist, aren't alive. Yes,

(35:59):
we're going to make sure that the money goes to
the people, but we're going to make sure that money's
not wasted a red scent. That's far different than cutting
someone's Social Security, which is the lazy scare tactic that
we've always confronted when we've talked about cutting back federal spend.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
And that's exactly what Democrats are saying today. The House
last night passed that budget bill. In that bill is
a section to examine what's going on with Medicaid Medicare.
So what are the Democrats doing? See, you're going to
cut the benefits exactly what you just said, Donald, trust
scare tactic. No, we're not going to do this. We
are just looking for the fraud, the waste, and abuse
in that system. And I can't think of an American

(36:34):
out there who would be opposed to do anything like
that other than people who are taking advantage of the waste, fraud,
and abuse.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
That's right, and we're finding so many examples. Before it
was just said in this ethos where we say we
just you know, we have an empty we have empty
federal buildings. We have a thousand dollars hammer. Okay, now
we're seeing it in amounts that are just shocking everybody.
And then when you tell them, hey, we want to
know what you're doing for your job, they get so offended.
And every American is hearing that, going, yeah, that doesn't
fly with I can answer what I've done in a day,

(37:03):
let alone five. Yeah, I'm not upset by that question.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
All right, when we come back, we're going to open
up the phones to you tonight eight eight eight five
seven eight zero one zero on your cell phone dial
pound two fifty and say, hey, Rod, with all the
changes that Donald Trump is introducing into Washington and what
is going on with the federal government, is it now
or never time for America in the future of the country.
Eight eight eight five seven oh eight zero one zero.

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Speaker 1 (37:49):
We're talking to you right now about an article we
saw today in op ed Peach from Jeffrey Tucker of
the Brown Brownstone Institute in the Wall Street Journal talking
about America's future really is with Doe right now, it's
kind of a now or never time for the American
people as we try and do something about this unbelievable,
humongous bureaucracy that we're starting under uncover thanks to doege

(38:12):
Is this an hour never time for America? Let's go
to the phones and see what you have to say.
Let's go to Lynn, who's in Linden tonight. Lynn, how
are you? Thank for thanks for joining us on the
Rowden Gregg Show.

Speaker 9 (38:23):
Hey, thank you. I wanted to say there's a lot
of people who are going to be squeezed out from
this pork are going to be pulled out. I'm excited
about it. I'm happy about it, but I'm wondering where
they're gonna go. They have been used to the government
teach for decades, maybe even longer, and now they're going
to be pushed out, maybe hopefully. Where are they going

(38:44):
to go.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
What are they gonna do?

Speaker 9 (38:45):
What kind of organizations are they going to set up?
What kind of criminal organizations are going to arise? Because
they have gone somewhere else. I'm not saying the regular
government worker, That's not what I'm saying. But there are
people who have made choices to be corrupt and know
what they're doing, know that they're defrauding the American people,
and they're going to be gone hopefully. But where are
they going to go?

Speaker 5 (39:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:06):
That is a that is a great warning. This is
why I love going to our callers.

Speaker 7 (39:10):
I watch.

Speaker 9 (39:11):
Yes, someone's got to be aware and watch for this.
I mean, it's going to happen. They're not They're not dead.
They're not going to die necessarily, So they're going to
go somewhere.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah, that's a good point, Lynni.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
And I'm telling you we usually think people that are
dependent on public assistance.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
That's not these people.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
These people are the ones that have been getting two
hundred and fifteen million a year for an empty building.
It's that they're the ones that are going to need
something to do after they've enriched ourselves with inappropriately and
fraudulently with taxpayer money.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
And the average federal worker makes what anywhere from one
hundred and thirty five to one hundred and forty four
thousand dollars a year. Not all of them, there's many
of them based in the DC area. But what's going
to happen when someone like that loses their job.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Job marketing, they find out that that's not the pay
scale for your level of you know, for your scope
of work, which is nothing. I think, Okay, let's keep going.
Let's go to Grant or No Tom in Gransville, Tom,
Welcome to the Ronning Gray Show. What's they you, sir?

Speaker 4 (40:06):
Thanks for having me. I just wanted to bring up
a point about the now or never. I felt like
that back when Donald Trump was in the first time,
and I saw how the Republicans treated him also, and
it was bad. So I became a delegate last year
and I went to the Republican caucus and nobody ever

(40:26):
brings us up, but every single person that won in
that caucus. We had some good candidates, and we had
good people that got elected in that caucus. And when
I came to the general election, every single one of them,
to my knowledge, right down to the state school district lost.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
People one Governor Cox, Celes malloy, those people didn't win
the Republican caucus, and there was four thousand delegates that
voted on these people.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yeah, I remember that, Tom, And you're exactly right. I mean,
you know, the governor got in, John Curtis got in,
which surprised a lot of people, as well as Les
molloy got in. Uh, and are these trump back to
Republicans now? Spencer Cock Cox has changed his tune a
little bit. I'd say he's pivoted pretty hard. Pivoted. John
Curtis likes to you know, he wats the fine line.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
He has now voted. He was signaling that there was
going to be some nominees, cabinet nominees that he wasn't
going to confirm. He ended up confirming every single one
that was up for vote, And so he's trying. I
think I think he's We're going to see there's more
scrutiny going on when you're a United States Center than
when you were a member of Congress. But I like
what Grant's saying because not Grant, Tom, because uh, the

(41:43):
there's a lot of lip service that we've been just
hearing for so long, and a lot of changing of
the jerseys and all this other nonsense. It is time
to put up or shut up. I don't think anyone
gets away with you know, vague answers and without real action.
And I'm telling you, like the Congress's passed the tax,
the tax, keeping our taxes the way they are with Trump,

(42:04):
but also adding tax cuts for on tips and on overtime.
I think that's that's a very hard bill to pass
in the in the in the US House, and they
did it.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Good, Yeah, take inventory of that.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
All right, we're gonna get some more of your phone calls.
Eighty to eight five seven eight zero one zero triple
eight five seven o eight zero one zero. Is it
now our never time for this great country of ours?
The the enormity of what is being uncovered, it's absolutely amazing,
and the dollars that are wasted fraud. We don't know
what's going on, but I think this is an hour
and never time for the American people. More your calls

(42:38):
coming up right here on the wing Man Wednesday edition
of The Roden Great Show.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
I'm Rod Arcuatt, I'm citizen Hughes. So I love the
issue we are talking. We've been talking this hour folks
about are we in the crucible? Is this the is
this to the event? Is this the rubicon? And we've
crossed and there is no return and we are either
gonna make it or it's gonna break us, because there's
no other version. We just are in it to win it,

(43:04):
or we're done here.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Is that the moment we're in right now?

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Or do we have someone else coming and we're actually
the country's doing just fine. Let's go to our callers.
Tom has been patiently waiting. Tom, thank you for holding
and welcome to the Rodd and Greg Show.

Speaker 10 (43:20):
Hey, good to talk to you.

Speaker 4 (43:21):
Guys.

Speaker 10 (43:21):
Answer the question, yes, as responsible to future generations, we
need to do something now to attempt to fix this,
So I would say yes. And then the second part
is we've all heard the terms must pay bills, must
pay part of the budget for Congress. Well, that suit
should be subjected to fraud and waste analysis, and then

(43:43):
everything else by definition sense, it's not must pay. Everything
else is subject to analysis to current administration priorities for funding,
and if it doesn't need a need to do, then
it can be looked at for whether it'd be funded
or not. Along with being looked at for fraud and
wasted abuse.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
Good idea. I kind of like that idea.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
The more we're thank you for your call, Tom, the
more we're learning, the more I think if we're too
If we're running a two trillion dollar a year deficit,
we're spending two trillion more. It's a seven trillion dollar
year budget. We're thirty six trillion in debt, two trillion
a year of printed money we don't collect by way
of taxpayer dollars. I honestly think with what we're seeing,
we're kind to cut into that number significantly, maybe more

(44:28):
than more a trillion, maybe with just the absolute offensive,
most offensive waste fraud, abuse, profiteering that's been going on
before you even get to anything real. And I think
Tom's idea about if it's not enough, I have to
have or if it's not there, you got to get
rid of it.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Amen to that. Let's go back to the phones. Pascal
is an American fork tonight here on the rod In
Greg Show. Thanks for calling. What are your thoughts on
this good evening?

Speaker 11 (44:56):
In that answer to your question, yes, we are truly
blessed to have this dream team helping us, helping the
country get back to its founding less government and more efficiency.
I'd like to push Trump's idea the five million dollar
Citizenship card one step further, and that is to allow

(45:16):
people that don't want to be here the ability to
sell their citizenship for five million dollars and the government
just to keep pops. It's a two for we get
someone wonderful coming in and we get someone awful going out.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
I kind of like that. Id Hi, you too, Hi too.
That's a good one. Bos Cal, Thank you very much.
Back to the phones we go.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
So let's go down to Ryan and Harriman. Ryan, Welcome
to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 7 (45:47):
Hey, Robin, Greg, thanks for having me. I just wanted
to make a quick comment to give some perspective to
what thirty five trillion dollars looks like. You can ask
chat beat Chat, GPT this. But if you line up
one hundred dollars bills end to end, thirty five trillion
dollars would be about thirty three point ninety two million miles.

(46:10):
And this is basically about one point four times the
distance from Earth to Mars.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (46:18):
Yah, you know we use these numbers, you know, thirty five, Yeah,
we use these numbers. Thirty five trillion, and that's what
we're leaving to our kids, yes, and our grandkids. And
if we can't be grateful for what Doge and Elon
Musk and his team are doing to try and eliminate
the waste and find the fraud, then you know we

(46:39):
are basically sending sentencing the younger generation, the next generation
to to the end because we have to deal with
it now or it will never be dealt with.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Yeah, and Ryan is right, but let me raise great
how many for how long have we been saying we've
got to protect future generations? We got? And has anything been.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
It hasn't, But we haven't been thirty six trillion, and
that either we haven't been able to go to Mars
on one hundred dollars bills, Yeah, and and to get there,
but it's always been a large jump. But I'm going
to tell you that it's just so unsustainable. I think
that end, it gets closer and closer to us, our kids,
not even grandkids, if we're not ready to deal with this.
And those are hard choices, but I think we're in
that moment. I think we're in that season where I

(47:21):
think we we don't have a choice and sayone get
mad about an email to ask you what to do?
What's the well compared to what? Yeah, I mean if
that dollar collapsed or we weren't able to have this
economy going because we just just printed too much money.
I think it's worse than emails. You don't want to answer.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
I'm with you on that. Let's go to Kevin in
Weaver County tonight here on the Rodden Great show. Kevin,
thanks so much for joining us.

Speaker 5 (47:44):
Well, thank you for having me. Uh, I just had
a I actually wanted to say something different than I
but then I heard Odam what was her name? Was
the lady that spoke about what's where are these people
are going to go?

Speaker 12 (47:55):
That?

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Lynn?

Speaker 5 (47:56):
Yeah, that scared the crap out of me.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Actually doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
I didn't think of that either.

Speaker 5 (48:02):
You know, if you combine the administrative state with the
intelligence community trying to push back, you know, I mean,
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but look at our history.
You know, they've got us into many things and lied
to us for so long. For every action, there's an

(48:22):
equal and opposite reaction. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Sorry, Ken, And I'm going to tell you it's it's
not the people that are dependent on public you know,
like welfare. We're talking the ones getting hundreds of millions
of dollars for for pretend projects or bad projects, keeping
most of it, sending your arrest out to do the
things that deteriorator destroy our foundational institutions. Where do they

(48:47):
go if that money drives up and goes away. I
mean they probably saved some of it. So the good
question hanging around, and I do I think that. I
do think That's why even when Kevin brings up the
our intelligence Commune and everything else, That's why I think
Trump's cabinet is so incredibly important right now to clean
this up, give us our best shot to get on

(49:08):
the right side of it.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
I want to think Lynn for her phone call. But
let me tell you what, Lynn, You're scaring the daylights
out of us. Yeah, we're all just like all right,
actually true, We've got more calls to get to. We'll
take a break and come back. Are we at an
hour never point for the future of America? Eight eight
eight five seven oh eight zero one zero or on
your cell phone dial pound two fifteen say hey, Rod,
more calls and comments coming up?

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Do we have a color named Valerie? No, we don't.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Never mind never see.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Sorry, Stevie, one would know callers d Vallerie on the
on the calls.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
I'm a little slow on the uptake, but eventually I
catch you up to what you're trying to do.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
I think that's nice.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
You looked you raise.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
I always want to look at you raise printed plays
and I know iat I haven't I said I want to,
but I forget. I'm just but I'm pretty sure that's
the name of our bumper music.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
All right? Is it now our never time for America?
As we wade into a new second trumb administration, he's
trying to tackle the deep state. We're hearing all kinds
of unbelievable stories about what's going on. That sex chat
story coming out of the NSA, Greg is just it's disgusting.
And by the way, we do have an NSA building

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here in the state of Utah. I hope it didn't
come out of there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Man, the degenerates on that line, on that sex chat line, they.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Better up from Utah. Wow, tell you all the cops.
Let's go, let's go to the phones. Let's go to
Linden and hear what Carol has to say tonight here
on the Rowden Greg Show. Hi, Carol, how are you Hi?

Speaker 9 (50:33):
I'm fine, how are you?

Speaker 1 (50:34):
We're doing well. Thank you again.

Speaker 13 (50:36):
I just wanted to comment on the gold card. I
think citizenship should be earned and not bought.

Speaker 1 (50:43):
Yes, interesting, yeah, interesting point. Yeah, I do.

Speaker 7 (50:47):
It should be earned.

Speaker 1 (50:49):
Yeah, yeah, all right, Carol, thank you. Should be earned,
that's right, I mean buying it.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
What if I watched a movie once for you were
a civilian, but you had to serve your country do
some things to become a citizen. There was a difference
between it was a movie. It was just fiction. It
was like a really it was like a Spaceship Troopers
or something.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
Yeah, so you.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Had you had civilians, starship Starship Troopers, Starship Troopers. They
fuck these giants, I know, they fuck these giants.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Bugs. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:17):
Yeah, it's really good.

Speaker 5 (51:18):
Watch it.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
I've watched it multiple times. It's really good. Stupid, it's
a great movie. Okay, we have time. We have time
for another. Carlos, Stephanie and Ogden. Stephanie, thank you for holding.
Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 13 (51:32):
Hello greg O, my mother.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Says my name that way.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
I'm in big trouble, Stephanie. I don't know if I
like that, or do I.

Speaker 13 (51:43):
I have to just say, I do love Greg and Rod.
You have to say and Greg? I guess Rod deserve
the Rods.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
He's the boss.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
We know this.

Speaker 7 (51:56):
Good worked for the I R s.

Speaker 13 (51:58):
And we're making fifteen sixteen bucks an hour in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Or patriots, Stephanie, I wouldn't have an argument with that.
In fact, where are all these people making all this money?
If you're only making that, who's getting away with all this?
Because you were seeing those crazy numbers, not.

Speaker 13 (52:18):
The people that they're laying off. We're trying to make
a living. And you know, I voted for Trump and
sometimes it's really hard to justify what's going on.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
But Stephanie, can I ask you a question?

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Were running up to a break. But I appreciate you calling.
I really do, and I love it that you're checking
me on, you know, some of the things we're talking about.
Did you get that email about the things you've done
in the past week? And if you did, how did
you receive that email? I mean, or were you bad
by it? Or did you were you anxious to show
them that yeah, we're working our tailoff out here. What
was your Did you get the email?

Speaker 11 (52:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (52:58):
Yeah, everybody, everybody, the I R S got it, and
we were directed to go ahead and answer it, and
we did.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
Good for you.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
I would if I were you, I would have said, yeah,
I got five, I got I got twenty five. How
do you like that? That's what I would do, Stephanie.
If you're listening to this show, you had more than
twenty five things to report on that email.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
Stephanie, just list listen to Rod and Greg. That's that
would take in five point five bullet points right away.
She's wicked smart, you know. Stephanie tipped me off to something.
When I'm at you, when I'm mad at you. From
now on, I'm going to go Greg now, she said, Greg, Greg,
I heard it, Greg, I was in trouble. I knew it.
My mother would say, Rodney James ar Kit, I knew

(53:40):
I was in trouble.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Oh, Greg, all right? Definitely just went right to my soul.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
She's got me another day, Stephanie. Thanks for listening, Stephanie.
Another busin the hour coming your way. Rod and Greg.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
I'm roder Kid, I'm Citizen Hughes. And this is the
danger zone.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
Yep, We're in the danger zone. It's the way we
aren't danger Not dangerous for people to listen to us, No,
but the stuff we talk about can be dangerous. That's true,
it can because especially to people who aren't behaving themselves.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
I'll tell you what we're just we're just exposing a
lot of fraud, a lot of we're talking about. We're
dissecting the news and giving you the truth. And that's
that's very threatening to a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
So we're truth seekers.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
We are our caller Linn boy, she she woke us
all up our call when she said, yeah, what about
these people making hundreds of millions and keeping it when
they're when they were money runs out?

Speaker 1 (54:31):
What did they do?

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Turn the gangsters great? Like we didn't have enough of
those running around? Probably set up a shadow government. But
we already have a shadow government, I mean we really do.
So they'll just continue in setting up a shadow government.
We just got to make it harder for them all
to do this. Has this just been too easy?

Speaker 1 (54:52):
Yeah? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (54:53):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
A quick note today we mentioned this last hour something
that is I don't recall it ever happening in the
cabinet me but President Trump with his cabinet meeting today,
the first one since he's got I think everybody in
place or close to it asked the Secretary of Housing,
Urban and Development to say a prayer, to open up
the meeting, to say a prayer, which is kind of

(55:15):
a refreshing.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Absolutely, I think it's great.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
I think it's I'm glad it happened. Yeah, all right,
we had talked about this. You know, I just mentioned
this new poll out by Reuters and Ipsy's showing that
Donald Trump his numbers are down. The American people apparently
do not like what he's doing.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Yeah, that's according to that poll. But of course the
media is all over. Anytime a member of Congress, a
Republican member of Congress holds a town hall meeting and
there are protesters there, they are going to cover it.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
It's it's We've called out very early as AstroTurf. The
day it was happening, we said, something smells rank here.
I don't know anyone, any average American that's going to
be like, how dare you find all this fraud? I'm
so offended?

Speaker 1 (56:02):
How dare you cut all this waste?

Speaker 2 (56:04):
This waste, It doesn't touch any of our programs, but
by golly, these fake people and all this money being
shuttled around. Yeah, that doesn't that's just so we're so mad.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
Well, let's pull the curtain back right now on some
of these protesters. Joining us on our newsmaker line to
talk about it is Colin Anderson, executive editor at the
Washington Free Beacon. He's been looking into these protesters. Colin,
thanks for joining us. What have you found out about
the protesters calling?

Speaker 14 (56:29):
Well, it was so fascinating about these protests. They were
meant to target Elon Musk and Doge at these town
halls across the country during the recent House recess, and
ahead of that recess, you had a couple of left
wing groups who are very well known for organizing these
types of things. Indivisible and Move On are the two groups,
and they very publicly touted the fact that they were

(56:51):
going to be organizing these protests at town halls and
local district offices across the country during the recess. They
published statements, they published toolkits for their members to identify
these town halls, They gave them messaging to use and
advice and all of these things. And they even had
a story in the Associated Press that said, Hey, here's

(57:11):
exactly what we're doing during this congressional recess. What's very
interesting about that is when these protests then happened, you
saw reporting in mainstream media outlets like New York Times
to Washington Post, CBS to frame these protests very much
not like they were dem led and organized from these
professional groups, but rather that they were a reflection of

(57:34):
this sort of broad backlash to Elon brought forth by
sort of everyday constituents in these areas. Now, obviously, look,
folks of all political stripes are welcome to go to
these town halls and raise whatever issues they would like
to raise. Very interesting though, how openly these groups advertised
what they were doing, and how they yet avoided mention

(57:55):
and all of these pieces that were meant to detail these.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Protests surprise surprise, you know here in Utah were a
red state. But you I don't know if it surprised you.
But we have a lot of those rent to protesters
that get brought in and that these uh, all this
NGO money we see getting shuttled around that we didn't
know as much about before coming in. One of the
tells that we have in Utah is that we call
ourselves Utahns. But if you look on a spell check.

(58:19):
It says that Utah inns im plural are Utah hans
h a n s. And so every time we see
signs of protests at one of these town hall meetings
and they're talking about Utah hans, we know that these
people that don't live in Utah. So we sensed this
astro turf pretend grassroots protest right away. How obvious do
you think it? I mean, the media wants to say

(58:41):
to the America, this is real. We know it's not.
But on the ground, how much How good of a
job are they doing of convincing the lawmaker themselves, because
sometimes they vote out of fear. How successful are they
going to be at persuading members of Congress that they
are truly the grassroots protest to on mosk doge and

(59:01):
cutting waste in government.

Speaker 14 (59:04):
Well, look, we'll certainly learn in the coming weeks. I
think one of the things I hear when I speak
to folks about this operatives and lawmakers and the likes
is they essentially say that you know, for now, the
sort of backlash to Elon they see is sort of
overblown and manufactured, which is to say that you know,
right now, dose is going after the sorts of agencies

(59:25):
that Donald Trump himself on the campaign trail touted and
campaigned on slashing, talking about usaid and foreign funding, talking
about the Department of Education, things of this nature. And so,
you know, I think when you look at pulling on
this issue, focus groups, et cetera, these are the sorts
of things that folks are more or less un bothered

(59:45):
by and supportive of when it comes to slashing, fraud
and waste. Now, well that change going forward, if the
targets change and shift to agencies that people perhaps take
a little bit more stock in. That remains to be seen.

Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
You know.

Speaker 14 (01:00:00):
I think for now the caution is more so you
know how this could develop in the future, and less
so what's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Now, Colin. Are these rather protesters actually given questions to
ask or issues to raise, or or even chance to
recite at these protests going How trained are they?

Speaker 14 (01:00:19):
Yeah, So it's funny that you mentioned this. Indivisible in
particular published a toolkit, I believe it was it. They
called it a stop Musk toolkit on their website in
which you could get, you know, anything that you needed
regarding not just how to uh, you know, find these

(01:00:41):
town halls and go to them, but also the sorts
of things that you could say while you were at them,
and so you know, they they mentioned, for example, their
their label is Trump and must coup, and they want
to ask lawmakers about their complicity in that coup. It's
it's very AGGRESSI of language. And they also tout in

(01:01:02):
these memos, for example, you know agencies like the Office
of Management and Budget, like the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau,
that these are the sorts of things that folks should
be raising and asking their lawmakers about. They also link
to coverage that they have garnered over the years doing
very similar town halls and protests like this, particularly back

(01:01:25):
in twenty seventeen. And that's the other part of it
that's so interesting is these groups have been doing this
for a very long time. So it isn't just that
they publicize these protests ahead of the recess. It's that
they had a long history, in a well known history
of doing this. And yet if you pull up in
New York Times and read about this, you're probably not
going to hear this information.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
So you know they're so brazen I call them the
regime media that they actually point out and you've pointed
out in your article that move On organizes this, that
there are these groups that are going to plan to protest,
but they frame it as these are the constituents of
this respective member of Congress or someone. So they're taking

(01:02:05):
they're pointing to these left wing groups that are training people,
getting them ready, and they're just using them as just
your rank and file constituency. Is it getting just more
bizarre out there where the American people if it's five
things you did last week is such an offensive thing
versus people losing their jobs and not being able to
afford things, or now your move on dot org or
all these special interest groups are now just your constituency.

(01:02:28):
Are they just going to lose the market share of
Americans paying any attention to CBS or New York Times,
you name it. Are they just going to go away
because they keep doing this, or what's going to happen?

Speaker 14 (01:02:41):
Well, there certainly is quite an interesting kind of given
take here between where folks are getting their information and
how they're evaluating these things. As a result, you mentioned
the way that these folks are portrayed. One of the
organizers of a protest in suburban Georgia targeting Richmond Hormick,
who represents quite a deep red district. They named one

(01:03:04):
of the organizers only as a constituent of his district.
We found that that is indeed the case. But this organizer,
her name is Maggie Goldman, she is not, you know,
sort of your everyday constituent. She is in fact, a
very well known activist, liberal activist in this area who
ran for her county commission as a Democrat on an

(01:03:27):
inclusive agenda, you know, who has donated extensively to Democrats,
who you know, coordinated volunteers for Pee Buddha Judge's campaign
and all. This is very much out in the open
and very easy to determine. And so you know, these
are the sorts of things where it's not very hard
to peel back the curtain and include the sort of

(01:03:47):
information when you're characterizing these people. I think naturally when
folks read and understand the extent to which this is
sort of hiding the ball. Whether you want to argue
if that's deliberate or out of ignorance, it certainly does
turn be.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
Colin Anderson with the Washington pre Beacon and Greg you
called it a couple of weeks ago when these protests started.
Look for the rent of protesters, and that's what Colin
found because they're all over. This is an organized effort
to make the Republican congressmen who hold down meetings just
to make them look bad.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
And it's a one two step. They're on the ground,
they get paid well to be on the ground, to
cause chaos, to be angry, to try and cause tumult,
and then they have a and then that's the one step.
Second step is you get the regime media to cover
it like it is all drama and real. And the
people are so mad at their members of Congress for
you know, for finding the waste. And I mean it's

(01:04:38):
just it's all farce. It's all astro turfs. There's no
grassroots about it. It's just all fake.

Speaker 1 (01:04:43):
Yeah, it is all right. More coming up on the
Rod and Greg Show in Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Knrs. It's not just a Wednesday, No, it's a Wingman Wednesday.
It's a Wingman Wednesday on talk radio one oh five nine.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
That's how this show got started, that's right, originally from
wing Men Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Yeah, you used to let me off for a segment.
Then I demanded.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
To shut you up. I know. So I was getting robbed.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
I was getting robbed in one segment. So we went
too and then I worked my way in. I was
taking out the garbage, and finally you just let me
come into the studio and we had Wednesdays, and then
since July, it's been bliss on this side of the studio.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Always a lot of fun. You know what you were
at some some one of those things you go do
in the evening all the much.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Well, it's that time of year at general sessions, dinners
and dinner. The one I actually came up to you
and said, do you guys argue a lot? Well, he
was a lawmaker and he quite likes our show. But
he thought that maybe we were jousting a little much.
He thought, you guys, are you guys fighting? No, we're
not fighting at all. This is this is male bonding.
You're witnessing right here. This is how how guys bond.
We just insult each other. That's how you do it,

(01:05:50):
you know, And women don't understand that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
A lot don't.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Some people don't think they don't know that we're we're
having fun. But you have to have a trust in
a friendship where you can kind of give each other,
you know, some grief. If you don't, if you're overly nice,
it's because you don't think they can take it. They're
kind of wimpy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
So yeah, and women are offended watching two men trying
to bond, well, because when you frame that makes me uncomfortable.
I'm feel a little weird right now. My wife, My
wife came up to me one time said you were
kind of mean, and I wanted to say, that's thank you,
rodeo queen. That's nice to have my back. But she
doesn't say that about my treatment to you because she

(01:06:28):
thinks I'm too kind to me. No, she said you
were kind of mean to me. Didn't know it was
a different different.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Oh oh, all right, I thought she was defending me. No,
because she'd probably right that's the case.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
But all right, shall we move on? We should? Okay,
we should. Big cabinet meeting today, first time for the president.
He's got his full cabinet installed or close to being installed.
Very very interesting today and he even invited Elon Musk
to the meeting to talk about what he's doing with doje.
I said some interesting things to say, right, great, he did.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
There's so many clips to pull from. This one's actually
where the media is asking him some questions about his
teriffs and everything else, and he talks about the European Union.
And I like this one because you know, they the
world just doesn't know what to do with Donald Trump.
And then and so this is the all you know,
the old playbook has been thrown out. And I don't

(01:07:23):
think you've ever heard of President describe Europe or the
European Union the way you're going to hear this President
flanked by two members of his cabinet, Secretary of State
Mario Marco Rubio, and then Seth on the other side.
But this is what the President had to say about
the European Union.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
But I love the countries of Europe. I love all
countries frankly, all different.

Speaker 8 (01:07:44):
But the European Union has been it was formed in
order to screw the United States. I mean, let's be honest,
the European Union was formed in order to screw the
United States. That's the purpose of it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
And they've done a good job of it.

Speaker 8 (01:07:57):
But now I'm president, we'll have it with you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
You retaliate.

Speaker 15 (01:08:02):
They can't, I mean they can try.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Well happened if you retaliate, retaliate with these or these
countries retaliate. They can't, well, they can't. They could try,
they can try. It's just these trade agreements and everything
they were just they're just profoundly unfair to American exports
and trying to be you know, get into their economies
of their countries like they love coming into hours.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Yeah, they can try. Well, the legacy media is doing
everything they can to show that the American people are
not happy with Donald Trump right now. Right new poles
come out every day showing he's underwater with his numbers.
We don't believe any of that. But CNN John King
decided to go to Greeley, Colorado and find some Trump
supporters and what they think of him. Now. Of course

(01:08:41):
the effort there is to find Trump supporters who don't
like him anymore. Well, John King had a problem when
he ran into this particular woman. What did you vote for?

Speaker 12 (01:08:50):
I voted for a president that was going to put
America first. I voted for a president that was going
to secure our borders, and I voted for a president
that was going to make sure that we were respected
throughout the world.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
And I believe I'm getting that and he said, and
she said to him, he has to write at the beginning,
how do you think he's doing? She goes, I love it.
I just love it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Any poll numbers right now that are showing you said,
they said Trump's underwater, I just don't buy it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
I don't think you've ever seen a president more responsive
to voters as quickly and as thoroughly as he is
with those that elected him brought in to office.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
We haven't got time now, but before the show ends,
I've got a montage of the media's stupidest questions when
it comes to the various cuts on Doge. I was
really looking forward to that montage. Well, we'll play it
before the show's over. Okay, just relax, all right, Mike
Kennedy is he's a congressman. We've got to make way
for Mike. Yes, Yeah, he'll be calling.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Yes, can't wait on this. They did something so great.
They actually passed him bill, a budget bill with cuts
in it, and then taking our not letting our text.
I've been worried about this. Steve Stephen Moore has been
on our Show's been word that they weren't going to
extend the tax the tax I don't even call it
tax cuts anymore. But our current tax rate was going
to go up if they didn't, if Congress didn't act.
And they acted. Rod, they did it, and they have.

(01:10:15):
They have a very late, you know, thin margin of
a majority, and they now.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
We just got to make sure that Senate does it
as well. Steve will be on tomorrow, by the way,
and we'll talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
Must send Mike's entrance into the body. I mean, he's
brand new. It's you know, he doesn't even know a
world where they don't just come together and pass budgets
to cut.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
You got in there and shook things up. Yeah, that's Mike.
See what he did. All right, we'll have our conversation
with Utah Congressman Mike Kennedy coming up right here on
the Rodd and Greg Show and Talk Radio one oh
five nine KNRS on Talk Radio one oh five nine
kN R S. I'm right, ourcat citizen Hughes, All right, Uh,
well you were kind of giddy today. Well you're kind

(01:10:51):
of halfway giddy. Yes, they're full giddy yet, but you're
half way giddy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:55):
Right, Yes, all right, I'm getting there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
Yes, all right, that's because the House the US House
last night, and congratulations to House Speaker Mike Johnson for
getting this through, passed the big, beautiful tax bill that
Donald Trump want.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
I think you congratulated the wrong Mike. I don't know
if you notice. We have two events that happened at
the same time. We sent Mike Kennedy to Congress, and
Congress by the slimmest of majority, went and passed a
beautiful tax cut bill. I think it's Mike Kennedy that
I think that's the difference. Mike Johnson was there last time.
They didn't They adn't cut, they didn't pass a tax cut.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
Congressman.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show, and thank you
for your contribution.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Made all the difference, didn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
All I know is that you weren't there when they
couldn't get anything done. You're there now and things are
getting done. What's what's the difference. What's the difference?

Speaker 15 (01:11:46):
Well, I think President Trump has a lot to do
with that. In fact, thanks for having me on again.

Speaker 5 (01:11:51):
Friends.

Speaker 15 (01:11:51):
It's good to talk to you and your listeners. And
it was a big night last night. It was it
was a painful process. I watched it in living color. Greg,
you know what it's like. And Roger, you've watched this
on the outside, but the reality is sometimes you have
really difficult votes and there are a lot of personalities
around here. But speak Johnson worked vigorously. They kept the
vote open. There were three votes, with the hard vote

(01:12:13):
right in the middle. They actually canceled the hard vote,
went onto the third vote, and then called everybody back
because by that time there had been some wrangling and
some arm twisting and some of the resistant Republicans, apparently
President Trump had something to do with that. They were
actually pulled back onto their nch and we got the
one big, beautiful bill. We got it moving forward and

(01:12:36):
excited to be a part of that historic event.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Congressman, how much work did Mike Johnson, the Speaker of
the House, have to do to get this through.

Speaker 15 (01:12:44):
I can only imagine the countless hours. But I saw
him so so I was on the floor watching this
whole thing unfolds. They got the third vote done and
they sent everybody home, canceling the second vote, and then
I saw the speaker are on the floor and he
just looked like a man who had just been gladiator

(01:13:04):
out in the middle of your and he was victorious.
I mean, so he had a grim determination on his face,
his head was focused down. He was walking past, and
right behind him was the majority whip, tom Emmer, and
Tom Emmer and the assistant with both were there, and
tom Emmer I saw him say, he said, we got

(01:13:25):
the votes. And I said, God bless you, Speaker Johnson,
we're praying for and he turned around and smiled, and
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
Go get it over here.

Speaker 5 (01:13:32):
Yes, it was.

Speaker 15 (01:13:33):
It was a big deal that I know that guy
worked diligently along with President Trump, JD. Vance and many
others to to make that thing happen. And and the
other interesting thing for both of you and your listeners
is is the progressives are popping a cork and they
are misinformation everywhere, outright lies about what this thing does.
There are no cuts to Medicaid, there are no cuts

(01:13:54):
to Medicare, there's no cuts to Social Security. But you
see front page all over the nation is that that's
exactly what this is doing. It's a framework for us
to move forward with. And they wanted us to fail
on this, and so they are just losing their minds
that we're able to keep together and get this done.
And so they're just outright lying to the public about
what's what's happening. And I'll just say, I'm working to

(01:14:15):
make sure this thing happens in a way that is
not damaging to our neediest cities citizens.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
You've always been when we serve together one that when
you said you were watching, I can just see you
on the floor when we serve together doing the same thing,
very very observant, taking inventory of everything that's going on
around you. That's the kind of a lawmaker that you are.
And Leader, let me ask you this this bill we're seeing.
We spent we spent this whole show of Congressman talking

(01:14:41):
about the offensive waste and the money that's just been
embezzled out of the out of the public treasury and
in the people's pockets. And you have to be seeing that,
and that has to be part of the equation when
you're looking at giving tax relief, protecting taxpayers, also looking
at cuts that are that would preserve Social Security, Medicaid,
medicares so that the recipients can get it, but the

(01:15:02):
waste can be taken out. What were the what were
the pinch points? And is you were watching it between
Republicans that would didn't like this bill, or did like
this bill. I can't imagine you wouldn't want to be
on the side of getting these tax cuts done and
even preserving our tax so they don't go up automatically
going increase. What were what were some of the arguments

(01:15:23):
or or maybe disagreements that we're making getting these votes difficult.

Speaker 15 (01:15:28):
My sense of the matter, Greg, and you you taught
me this many years ago, is let the let the uh.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Let the don't let the perfect.

Speaker 15 (01:15:37):
The perfect be the enemy of good yes, yes, And
constantly we're talking about that, and sadly, we have some
purists that are associated with this process that just think
if it's not everything I want, then I'm gonna just
shut it down. And that is not how these things work.
I mean, look, we're talking about one and a half
million dollars from US A I D to promote l

(01:15:58):
g B two Q advocacy, and we're talking seven point
nine million dollars to teach three lank And journalists how
to avoid binary gendered language. And the list goes on
and on for a bunch of nonsense that's out there
for how our government spending money. And this bill, this
budget resolution is not perfect. It's as I've said it's
a framework. Nothing is perfect. You Greg know that, and

(01:16:20):
Roger you've seen it as well. Is when we pass bills,
especially big substance of bills, there's always something in there
that's not perfect. But my family, economy, my wife and
I work on these things. I don't always agree with
the things she buys. She doesn't always agree with the
things that I focus on. She particularly doesn't like when
I take a fifty percent pay cut to go to
Congress because you have less money to buy yourself we need.

(01:16:41):
But nonetheless, we still as a family can get along
and it's the kind of thing we work out together.
So I think the biggest issue, Greg is we just
we have some purists and I God bless them, and
I want things to be absolutely certain every time. But
in this case, I think the Ukrainian war funding is
going to be part of it. And actually one of
our congressional colleagues just doesn't think it cuts enough. It

(01:17:05):
doesn't think it sets. They don't think it sets goals
that are more are significant enough. And I just say, look,
if you want to turn the aircraft carry around in
one hundred and eighty degrees and do that in three seconds,
it's just not going to happen. These things are slow
and we're going to have to work in the right direction.

Speaker 1 (01:17:22):
Congressman, I want to go back to the Medicare and
Medicaid issue because from what I understand, I heard someone
I think it was on Fox News today talking about
that this bill just gives whoever the opportunity to go
in and look for waste, fraud, and abuse. Is that
what this all about is not to cut it, it's
just looking way that the abuse is taking.

Speaker 15 (01:17:42):
Place, exactly, and there's a lot of that that's going on.
Telehealth visits that aren't actually happening for wheelchairs certification business,
they're over those are over billing and fraud associated with
durable medical equipment. I mean, we've heard the stories that
since Doge has been doing and it's worked over the
past month, and the list.

Speaker 13 (01:18:02):
Goes on and on.

Speaker 15 (01:18:03):
The federal government is full of fraud, waste, and abuse,
and there are many opportunities and all of these systems
to improve them. I'm committed, though, as a family doctor
who's taken care of many Medicaid people, and it's not
theoretical for me. I know the names and have taken
care of for decades these people, and I want these
systems to work for them. The most vulnerable will be

(01:18:24):
held harmless, and we will continue work to make sure
this system or that we're saving money, but also that
we're able to deliver the care that these people need.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Look, courage is contagious. Do you think that did you
develop a taste for passing good legislation that you will
see more coming our way?

Speaker 15 (01:18:41):
I love it, Yes, and I'm hopeful that with President
Trump and the Senate and the House working in unity,
that we'll be able to.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Get this done.

Speaker 15 (01:18:48):
And I'll add to that, there's quantification for this. President
Trump's poll numbers are up. You've been able to see
that as well, and congressional poll numbers are up as well.
For US as a whole, it's gone up. And these
are all terrible numbers. People hate Congress. Okay, let's I
get it. But from seventeen percent congressional approval to twenty
seven percent congressional approval, and that is those are numbers

(01:19:08):
today after we've done this budget reconciliation package. So so
I think the people in the United States of America
are seeing that the Republicans are actually doing something useful
and I'm excited to be a part of that team.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Congressman, just want to let you know Greg and I
have been thinking, well, we've been listening to you. We're
going to start a campaign to raise some money to
help you in your family. We understand.

Speaker 15 (01:19:30):
Poor.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
I hope your poorer. So we're gonna we're going to
help you out.

Speaker 15 (01:19:36):
You guys are great. Thanks for always the best on
and just know we're fighting to fight and we're happy
to do that for you here in Washington, DC, just
like we've done it in Utah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
All right, Utah Congressman Mike Kennedy, good guy, Yeah, thank
you again. I can find some change to help him out.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Yeah, man, yeah, yeah yeah, So he gets there day
passive text and so that's all we need. We just
we needed a good old doctor Mike can there and
now we're good.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Yeah, all right, mare coming up on the Rodd and
Greg Show and Talk Radio one oh five nine can Ars,
I'm Citizen Hughes and I'm Rod Arkad. Now we all
expected the Democrat corporate media Alliance to come up with
some bogus reasons to hate Donald Trump his administration for
cutting government. But here's a media montage of some of
the stupidest objections to the doze cuts from the media.

Speaker 16 (01:20:25):
Trump said yesterday he wants Musk to be more aggressive,
So how far is too far?

Speaker 17 (01:20:30):
PBS is having to deal with the purge of DEI
offices and initiatives. The Sesame Street icon who played Maria
for decades, is here to share why she's so concerned.

Speaker 9 (01:20:42):
Elon Musk has bragged about slashing and eliminating entire agencies
like USAID.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
USA does really important democracy work.

Speaker 6 (01:20:52):
We are starting to see the impacts of federal cuts
on our nation's bustling national parks.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
More pink slip for tens of thousands of employees. That
includes anyone who worked or works on climate, Environmental Justice
Equity DEIA.

Speaker 9 (01:21:08):
Thousands of RS workers from all over the country are
also being let go at the height of tax season,
at the height of.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
The tax season, at the height of tax season, the
height of tax season, which is right now. The Department
of Education could be next on the chopping block.

Speaker 8 (01:21:24):
The Trump administration is cutting protections that shield roughly half
a million Haitian migrants from deportations.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Blowing up the world's largest foreign aid mission.

Speaker 9 (01:21:33):
Up to half of the Department of Housing and Urban Development.

Speaker 16 (01:21:36):
Twenty Immigration Judges a vital global climate report Sesame Street
in Iraq even entire departments do they understand the consequences,
both economically and the direct impact of these jobs not
getting done because they're cutting them?

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Wow, the media is just going crazy over all this
stuff around tax time. Illless, it's around tax time. Tax time.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
By the way, I'm taking stealing our tax money dead. Yeah,
it's tax time. We want our tax money back. You've
been wasting it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
Story today shows that Salt Lake has become one of
the nation's most expensive major airports. At the airport itself
is no. No. The flight out of the out of
Salt Lake International Airport great.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Yeah, you know, I you know, I got a thing
about that airport.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
I'm I'm totally I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
Oh you're crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
You don't use it? Then, No, I don't use it
very much. Of course you like it when I do
use it. It's not the time that thing was being built.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
It was the major, most largest, you know, rebuilding an
airport in America. And it's a fail.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
Now it's not head up, shoulders back. May God bless
you and your family. There's a great country of hours
thanks for joining us. We're back tomorrow at full

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