The Troubleshooter 2-21-25

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Speaker 1 (00:22):
No Tom Martino, Hello Tom Martino here, welcome to this show.
We are here to help you solve problems, answer questions,
take complaints, make your life a little easier each and
every day, solving problems to the tune of hundreds of
thousands of dollars a year. So welcome to the show.
We're happy you can join us on a Friday, and

(00:43):
it's a snowy Friday, so please be safe when you drive.
And speaking of driving, you know it is car Day
on Friday. We do a lot of car issues on Friday,
but not just cars, so anything you want to call
about you can uh. Just some programming notes. We were
trying to stream Mark in, but I had some technical
difficulties here and we have a lot of the ports

(01:06):
used up. In other words, we couldn't get him in.
And maybe he can call in on the station and
be on the hotline something like that might work. But
whatever he decides to do, and you guys decide to do,
I'll do it. We also have Kevin Calkin here from
Sheridan Autotech dot com and I see Deputy d as well.
Welcome guys to the show. What's going on in your

(01:27):
life and how can we help you? Let's see when
it comes to cars. Okay, so here's what I want
to talk about. When it comes to cars. Should we
be switching to evs? I mean, really, how much time
I go through this dilemma over and over and I'm
at an age now where I used to joke how

(01:48):
many cars do I have left? You know, if you
looked at a car's average three years, how many cars
you have left? Well, I'm three cars away from never
needing a car. I mean, I hate to look at
life like that, but you know what I'm saying, I'm
not three cars. I don't know if I'm one car
or three cars or half a car. But but in general,
what I'd like to say is this cars. Would you

(02:11):
is it time to switch to an EV now this
time around if you're looking for a car or is
it too soon? Is it too premature? Deputy d I
see you there. What do you think is it time
to switch to an electric car? Or do you think
we're going to have another ten or fifteen years of
viable motor. Okay, now Kevin's there as well. Just move
that over a little, Kelly and just get it square.

(02:31):
I mean, we have a lot of space on over
Dimitri's left shoulder we don't need. But in any case,
thank you and we can. So what do you think, keV?
Is it time to get an EV right now? And
I'm going to transition?

Speaker 5 (02:44):
I definitely see, you know, the desire and the benefits. Yeah,
but I still think technology is still changing rapidly. So
I'm still on the fence a little bit, still waiting.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Okay, Okay, so this time around you wouldn't do an EV.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
I'm very very tempted, but I'm still waiting because I
think it's going to get a little even better.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Okay, so that's the point. At what point do you
do it? Like Mark used to say, you know, when
I did my clear lens exchange, I'm not doing them yet.
I'm not doing them until they're perfected. I said, well,
when will they be perfected? Nothing's ever perfected? How many
times have we had our smartphones perfected? Or anything we buy?
I mean laptops? I mean, you know I have iPads.

(03:30):
I can't even use anymore, exactly because they stop supporting them.
I mean, so at what point do you call it good?
At what point do you say, well, okay, we can
get it done. I mean, even if it's not perfect.
If it's not perfect, at least it's something right. So anyway,
I'm having that dilemma now, not that I need a car.

(03:52):
I only have twenty nine grand on my car. But
I get tired of cars, and it's coming up on
three years and I don't being tired of them. Yeah,
I don't know. I guess we do. I guess most
people have to admit they don't buy cars when they
wear out. They buy them when they get tired of them.
Except Dmitri. He rises their wheels off them. He's not tired.

(04:13):
If he's toyota at all, he's not tired of it.

Speaker 6 (04:15):
I love it more and more every single day and
tomorrow it You don't miss technology?

Speaker 1 (04:22):
What about technology? Self driving, GPS, all of that.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
Well, I have zero interest in self driving. And as
far as GPS, you know, my telephone has that mapping
software that gives me turn by turn directions.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
More importantly, it knows about.

Speaker 6 (04:36):
Traffic jams and accidents and the enclosures that I wouldn't
know until I actually encounter them.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
So I have it, But you don't want to be
surrounded by I don't know. I like new things. I
like new things. Okay, So I'm asking people today if
they're ready for an EV and what EV?

Speaker 7 (04:53):
You know?

Speaker 1 (04:54):
I was looking at a bunch of evs and I
want to spill this gust right now because it's almost
like a catharsis here. Do you know that? And I
don't want to say and let's not talk about affordability
and stuff right now because it's not anybody's business at
this point. But I was looking at all kinds of
price ranges. Let's just say I could wave my magic

(05:16):
wand I'm not saying I will or I can, but
I want to do a theoretical shopping experience. So I'm
looking at deputy docs car. A beautiful car, a Hyundai Ionic,
I believe. Yeah, ConA, it's a beautiful little car. Yep,
what's that? Or what is the end?

Speaker 8 (05:35):
It's a ConA Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
ConA okay, yep, beautiful electric car is all in what
he was yet over thirty grand He's a little over
thirty grand.

Speaker 8 (05:44):
I he's just under yeah, he.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Loves this car. Okay. Now then you look at the car.
Mark's looking at a twenty twenty five plaid. By the way,
the new model s looks a little like a Corvette
to me, it's it's an outrageously nice car. That car'll
top out at around one hundred grand and it's Tesla

(06:12):
and it's got almost four hundred miles of range. Now
everyone's getting into it. So I looked at and everyone's saying,
do not do this, do not do this, do not
do this. All it is is a big old fashioned
clunker on top of a battery. And that's the new
G five. Have you heard of it?

Speaker 8 (06:36):
I haven't seen that one, Kevin, No, I haven't seen
that one yet.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
It's do you know what it is?

Speaker 8 (06:44):
Do I know what it is?

Speaker 1 (06:45):
An electric? It's an electric G wagon.

Speaker 8 (06:47):
Yeah, no, it's I haven't seen the pictures. I mean
the body style you know it had to have.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
It looks exactly like it. It's a G wagon. Cool,
except it's electric. Now they made some minor changes, but
they made the changes to all G wagons. In other words,
there's there's nothing exclusive to the five eighty except it's electric.
Now they have a motor on each wheel, four motors,
one on each wheel. They say it is unstoppable. It

(07:15):
only has a two hundred and thirty mile range or something.
Think about that, and that's an ideal condition. It's two
hundred and thirty, two hundred and forty. That's really low.
And then the only difference is where the big spare
tire and a G wagon is. They have a big
they have that that container still, but it's rounded not

(07:36):
excuse me, it's more of a rounded rectangle, a rounded square,
a square with rounded corners, and that's where you store
your charging cable and stuff. So it's really a jump.
And you know what, it weighs sixty six hundred pounds.

Speaker 8 (07:54):
Gosh, that's heavy.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Sixty six So it's an electric g wagon and they
have some town and I looked at him because you know,
I'm thinking, you know, leasing right now is the way
I want to go. I'm not gonna I'm not going
to expend the capital I used to when I was younger,
because there's no reason to. And I only drive ten
to five a year. I could do a twelve thousand
mile lease. I've been talking to Jeff Car Jeff R

(08:16):
Cars about leasing and here's the deal. People would say,
I'm nuts. Why not just get the Tesla They've perfected it?
Or what about Arrivian or what about there's all kinds
me what is what? See? That's the problem. Everybody's coming
out with one. What do you do?

Speaker 9 (08:38):
So?

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I want to get opinions on EV's one of my
topics today. Tom has a question? Go ahead, Tom, what
did you want to talk about?

Speaker 10 (08:45):
Yeah, on the EV, I'm not going to ever buy
a one. Probably I'm kind of waiting for the hydrogen
fuel cell vehicle.

Speaker 9 (08:54):
To come in.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Well, I mean, I imagine eventually it would happen, but
my god, are you really going to wait for that?

Speaker 9 (09:03):
Well, we're an EV?

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, and then what then are you gonna be?

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (09:06):
And then are you going to be an early adopter
for it?

Speaker 9 (09:10):
Maybe?

Speaker 10 (09:11):
Maybe it depends on what the price point is on that.
I had a question for you about the Tesla power
wall three battery holds, Yes, battery, you know, have battery
for a house?

Speaker 9 (09:21):
What do you guys think about those?

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (09:23):
Worth it?

Speaker 1 (09:25):
I think they're wonderful. But here's the problem. Do you
have a First of all, do you have room for it?

Speaker 9 (09:36):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (09:37):
And I've already got a solar system in place. I'm
pricing them out right now, Okay, I'm wondering so that
they're only they've only got like a ten year lifespan.
So at the price that I'm getting, you know, even
with the rebates that you get back, get splits about
a thousand bucks a year to have the battery back up.
And I'm just wondering if.

Speaker 9 (09:57):
It's worth it.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Well, well, it is if it is, and it isn't.
If it isn't, it depends on what you're backing up
and how bad it is. That's really expensive. By the way,
there are other options. Have you looked into other battery backups?
In fact, Tom, what I'm gonna do for you, I'm
gonna take a break right now. Hold on. We can
call you back. You can hang on or you can
listen either one. But if you have follow up questions,

(10:19):
you may want to hang on. Let's call over at
Let's call brook over at redrocksars dot com. Let's do
that and figure out what we're doing there. Let's do that,
and and she'll have all kinds of ideas for battery backups. Okay,
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Tom Martinez here three oh three seven one three talk
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(12:06):
the best prices for high efficiency replacements. We're trying to
get Brooke from Redrocks RS, Red Rocks, Roof and Solar
to talk about battery backups. Part of that is the uh,
the power wall. But Tom, you told me something I
never took into consideration, and a lot of people don't.
When you take things that age out, and a lot
of things age out that we're not aware of. Some

(12:29):
things age out and they make you publicly aware of them.
The most famous things that age out are aircraft parts
and components. So you can put a hard cost to
owning something. For example, if an engine gets two thousand
hours before a mandatory FAA mandatory overall, then you would

(12:50):
have to have you would have to have a price
on that. So you know, using stupid numbers, if it's
a two thousand hour engine and it's two two thousand
dollars overhaul, that would be one thousand dollars an hour, right,
two thousand, two thousand or excuse me one hundred dollars
an hour or whatever, ten dollars, whatever the hell it is.

(13:12):
Let me. I'm sorry, but it started out to be
an intelligent discussion. So what you have to do is
admortize it. And you're telling me, Tom that on a
on a yeah, it's one dollar an hour, two thousand hour,
two thousand dollars would be one dollar an hour. Okay,
I digress. So on this solar wall, are you telling
me for sure that it has a definite time span?

Speaker 10 (13:37):
Yeah, it's got a ten year lifespan on it, now.

Speaker 11 (13:40):
I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Now do they say do they say recommended or approximate lifespan?
Or is that the you must replace at ten years?

Speaker 10 (13:50):
No, it doesn't say you must replace. It just says
ten years.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, okay, you know that's interesting. Ten years and they
and it costs how much to install it'll cost?

Speaker 10 (14:05):
You know, by the time I get all the rebates
and so forth, it'll be about ten grand for a
a power wall three plus an extender pack. So that's
two batteries basically that both are thirteen and a half.

Speaker 6 (14:18):
Why Tom, what's the what's ther reason for considering this wall?
What's the problem or enhancement that you'd like to solve
with it.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's battery back up.

Speaker 10 (14:29):
Yeah, it's a battery back up. When the power goes out.
You don't have to worry about a generator. You've got
the batteries to run off of.

Speaker 6 (14:35):
How much does a generator cost.

Speaker 9 (14:39):
A lot less?

Speaker 8 (14:40):
And how often does your power go out?

Speaker 9 (14:41):
And you've got not very often?

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, that's a good point. D that's a good point.
A battery, Well, never thought of that.

Speaker 6 (14:49):
Really, A generator sounds like Tom told us that the
generator will cost less, and a generator really has an
indefinite lifespan, especially since his power doesn't go out very often.

Speaker 10 (15:01):
Well, the only thing that I'm trying to figure out
is with a generator, you've got the pain in the
butto happened to fill it up with fuel? You've got
the noise?

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, and then you've wait a minute, man, wait a minute,
Wait a minute, wait a minute. You you have you
have to fill it up with fuel only when you
use it, right, So is avoiding the well, hell, if
you have a diesel generator. If you have a diesel
generator or propane or whatever you have, you it would
last you forever. I mean if you have a power

(15:31):
outage of an hour or two hours or three hours
that takes nothing of fuel, I would I would definitely
go with a generator. Over one thousand dollars a year battery, No,
one thousand dollars a month. Oh a year.

Speaker 10 (15:46):
Okay, it's a thousand dollars a year.

Speaker 8 (15:49):
A year.

Speaker 7 (15:49):
I talked to you about eighty five.

Speaker 10 (15:50):
Bucks a month. So so yeah, that's that's kind of
what I was thinking.

Speaker 9 (15:54):
I was going to buy one.

Speaker 10 (15:55):
And I thought, well, wait, if I buy a generator,
and you know, even after I pay an electric to
get it hooked up to where it can power my
whole house, it's not going to be you know, ten grand.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Not only that, but but there are there are benefits
though there are other benefits. We may be overlooking to batteries.
So I'm going to ask Brook from Red Rocks. So
Brooke he is considering the Tesla power wall. He says
it his net expense amortizes approximately to about one thousand

(16:31):
dollars a year. That's a lot of money because he
has to replace those eventually, so it's about one thousand
dollars a year. And then I said, maybe Brooke has
ideas for other battery backup systems that last longer, or
what about the generator? I love the idea of a generator, Brooke.

(16:52):
Is there a benefit of having a battery over a generator.

Speaker 12 (16:57):
The fuel source? So if you're a generator and it's
connected to gas or pro paint or whatnot, then you're
still paying for the fuel source or as a battery source,
which is the sun is already handled. So that's an
expense that folks don't necessarily consider. And then Colorado right now,
the state has a tax credit for batteries, so ten

(17:20):
percent of the batteries is covered through that, and then
the other thirty percent is covered through the normal federal
tax credits that are still viable. What who's your utility
company that you have?

Speaker 10 (17:34):
Excel They've got a forty five hundred, well a four
thousand up front and then a five hundred dollars over
five years. So it's forty five hundred bucks from Mexcel.
But you know, even at things, you're still looking at
ten grand.

Speaker 12 (17:48):
Uh, it's I'm so sorry. So it actually depends on
where you're at with an XL so excels rebate. Are
you retired, are you working?

Speaker 9 (17:58):
Working?

Speaker 12 (18:00):
So the only reason I ask is retire folks get
six grand per battery, you get fifty seven hundred. So
I'm not sure who told you four, But it's actually
fifty seven hundred with the Tesla because it's depending on
the continuous output of your battery, so each battery has
a different value. So for Tesla's about fifty seven hundred
plus those other tax credits. I think you should be

(18:21):
out of pocket, and me one moment, let me let
me look up the numbers real quick. And then are
you looking at one one battery to do like a
subpanel with just critical loads or are you looking to
do like a whole home backup?

Speaker 10 (18:35):
I was looking at the powerwall three plus an extender pack.

Speaker 12 (18:41):
Okay, sure, And I guess my question is are you
are you wanting just immediate loads or are you looking
for everything so you would need you would need two
batteries for that, So to do two Tesla batteries with
the benefits that Excel does. Give me one second, let
me just run these numbers real quick. Sure you're looking

(19:02):
at being out of pocket about ten grand for the
whole project versus a whole Yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
What That's exactly what he figured. That's exactly what he figured.
But if it has a ten year lifespan, we're down
to one thousand dollars a year. So here's what I'm
I'm saying. You can buy a lot of diesel for
one thousand dollars a year, Brooke, you can, but.

Speaker 12 (19:26):
A whole home generator to do the same thing is
like thirty grand. If he's trying to back up his
whole house.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Oh and you don't get any rebate on that.

Speaker 12 (19:36):
You don't get any rebase on the generator.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Okay, okay, that's a good point.

Speaker 12 (19:42):
Critical loads. If he's trying to back up just critical
loads into a smaller thing than a generator, you could
probably buy one for five grand or something and go
through it. So again, it just depends on what you're
looking to have done.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Okay, Okay, that's good information. Do you have Brook batteries
that are cheaper than the Tesla ones that are just
as good?

Speaker 12 (20:07):
Oh yeah, I mean it depends on what you're looking
for with go off grid batteries or on grid the
Tesla just has. Well, let's just.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Let's talk about this particular one. Do you have a
generic substitute for Tesla to do exactly what he wants
to do, that would be less than ten grand out
of pocket.

Speaker 12 (20:25):
Yeah, so quick question for you. Are you looking for
something that can give you a lot of power right
away or are you looking for a little bit of
power for a long time?

Speaker 10 (20:35):
Well, just to put into my whole house for you
know the point four.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
Yeah, like if the power he's talking about, if the
power goes out or he has a cloudy day.

Speaker 12 (20:45):
Totally get that. So some folks run like welding machines
or other stuff they want backed up. That's just why
I was asking.

Speaker 11 (20:50):
So if they want a lot.

Speaker 12 (20:51):
Of power really quickly, solar ridge is better, and you're
looking at about instead of ten grand out of pocket,
probably four grand out of pocket, a significantly cheaper product,
but it doesn't last as long. Your Tesla batteries are
like a slower rule, so they're going to last longer,
but they're going to power your house more evenly too.

Speaker 9 (21:11):
It was ten years ago.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
So is Tesla? Is Tesla the best? I'm sorry if
you don't, sorry if.

Speaker 12 (21:18):
You don't need the power really quickly. Yes, Tesla is
the best battery.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Of the market.

Speaker 12 (21:24):
It's but the the ambridge, Like how fast you can
get that power is a lot slower. So if you
need a big kick right away, which some folks need,
then Solar Rige is a better battery.

Speaker 10 (21:37):
The biggest kick I would need is my AC units
starting up.

Speaker 12 (21:41):
Yeah, Tesla would be totally fine with that.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yep, that's not a problem with But would you okay, okay,
So when we talk about battery backup, do you recommend them, Brooke.

Speaker 12 (21:54):
Do I recommend Tesla's Yeah, that's all we install for
battery backup if they're on or off grid.

Speaker 11 (21:58):
It's very rare that we don't, Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
And do you ever have clients that go instead with generators?

Speaker 12 (22:09):
Yeah, I mean we have clients that do a combination
of them. So I've got a client right now that
we're doing batteries and a generator, so he can kind
of have the best of both worlds depending on what's
going on. I have clients that use a small generator
to power the battery so they don't get an extra battery.
There's a lot of ways that you can put a
backup system together.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
And then one other question, how hard and fast is
that ten year life span on the Tesla power Wall.

Speaker 12 (22:41):
I mean, it's just a warranty for it, so it's new.
The Tesla Powerwall three just went on the market last year.
My guess is the battery probably last fifteen to twenty
years in my opinion, because usually it's a couple of
years after warranty that it's still kicking.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
That's that's what Brooke, That's what I was thinking. Because
of bat there is the batteries a battery, and the
newer batteries are way better and unless you have constant
drain and refill, I think it would last longer.

Speaker 12 (23:11):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's a great option, especially if you're
looking at spending thirty grand on a generator versus ten
out of pocket. You know you have pa.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Thank you, I got to take a break, and that's
Brooke from red Rocks roof Andsolar redrocksars dot com three
oh three seven zero four two four four nine, Tom,
thank you for stirring that discussion. Is very, very thought provoking.
We got more coming up on the Troubleshooter Show. And
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Three O three seven one three talk seven one three
eight two five five. All right, So our discussion today,
uh has been a little bit of everything, well not everything,
but we've been talking about solar systems, battery backups, generators.
One guy says, look, I disagree with Brookes. The generators
are great. You can get a small generator on your
whole house. You don't even need an electrician. Well, I

(24:52):
don't know about that. I would be very careful about that. Obviously,
if you're handy, you may not need one. But if
you're going into the grid, I think you need to permit.
But we're also talking about EV's. I mean, are EV's
truly going to take over? And when I mean, we
have government mandates. And while you know Trump says drill, baby, drill,

(25:19):
I love that. Since I have a lot of vacant
royalty land, a lot of it, thousands of acres, I
would love nothing more than for them to drill. I
don't think we necessarily need to drill for cars. You know,
there's way there's petroleum products. Oil is used for so

(25:39):
many things that if you looked at a typical room
or downtown and took away oil products, you would be shocked,
I mean shocked at what would be missing. Three O
three seven one three talk is our number. Now, So
EV's Tesla's are they truly out ahead? One thing I

(26:05):
want to say about Tesla's, and they may have changed
now my son I got him a little Model three,
and one thing I want to say about it, the quality,
the finish and trim is not great. I don't know
if you've noticed that, Kevin, or if you have ever
looked Deputy d Yeah. One, yeah, Mark loves his mondoleesque

(26:27):
but if you look closely at that interior, it doesn't
It doesn't compare to a Mercedes doesn't even come close
to a Beamer or a Mercedes. Not even close. Now
maybe the new ones do, but that disappointed me when
I saw when I was looking at a plaid, when
Mark was looking at his ass and I decided not
to go with the plaid. But when I look closely

(26:47):
at it, I was shocked. And I'm talking about knobs
and levers and trim and stitching. I was shocked at
the lack of detail. And some of these knobs they
break and crack and they're brittle. I mean, I just

(27:08):
think the quality of components in the older ones. When
I say older, I'm talking about just a few years ago.
It's not there. Did the interior change all? You know,
when you talk about interiors, okay, it's hard to beat
a Beamer or a Mercedes. Interior is hard. And when
we say Mercedes, we're talking about a Lot and Beamer
a lot because they both have a Maybach and Rolls

(27:31):
Royce behind him. Those are beautiful, beautiful finish and trims
or fit and trim. And when you're talking about another
American mode, do you know who has the best American
made trim cars in the world? In my opinion, who
would you think I'm gonna say, keV, who do you think.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
I thought You're gonna go Cadillac or Lincoln or one
of those.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Yeah, light, well that would be an obvious choice. The
best trim in the world that I've seen is a Corvette.

Speaker 8 (27:57):
Yep. Yeah, They're definitely up there.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
You look at that fit that finished, that trim, that interior.
Oh my god. I mean now that and to be
I don't mean to slight American workers, but it looks
like it was. It's German manufacturing or look. Hey, hey,
I bring Japanese.

Speaker 13 (28:17):
Hold on, hold on, Tom, I have to chime in here.
I said Chevrolet and you said Corvette. Isn't that made
by Chevrolet?

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah? See, kid, it's almost like it's almost like a
separate It really is almost it's almost like a separate company.

Speaker 13 (28:39):
Oh well about cars.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Yes, you knew that Chevy made the Corvette, and that
is amazing to me.

Speaker 13 (28:47):
I said that before you even said the Corvette. You
got to give me some props.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah, but Chevy in general is not good. When I
said trim and you said Chevy, and I said Corvette,
that's their world's apart. You have some crap Chevy trim
and you have some really nice Chevy trim and let's
talk general motors. You have good the same Cadillacs are nice,
that they're nice. A lot of the Cadillac and the

(29:12):
Corvette stylings they share engineers and stuff. But it's a
really look, it's a really new world out there when
it comes to cars, because now you're not only looking
at making things beautiful but making them efficient. Light and again,
I want to hear from people who are going to

(29:35):
buy their next car and is going to be an
EV or who will go down fighting and never get
an EV. They figure, I'm at the point of my
life right now. Like, for example, if you're forty, do
you think you can go to the rest of your
life with new cars if you want them? Like, however
many new cars you get every three or four or
five years. Can you go to the rest of your
life at forty with today's marketplace and buy new cars

(29:58):
and have gasoline cars until you die? What do you think, keV?

Speaker 5 (30:04):
Yeah, I think it's going to be more generational than
anything I think. You know, as you're I think as
you're going through, I'm starting to go through. I just
don't drive as much anymore, you know, so then if
you take eight, go ahead, Yeah, it makes more sense
at this time of my life than it would have
twenty years ago.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Take eighty five years old, and then minus forty you're
forty years old. So let's say you have forty five
more years, and maybe you won't drive the last five.
Who knows, I mean maybe you will. So let's say
you're going to drive the whole forty five. And let's
say you change cars every let's just say four years,

(30:46):
so you have eleven cars. Do you think you can go,
at forty years old, right now today, eleven more new
cars and make them all gasoline. I don't mean eleven
in the next two years.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
For the next whether it's EV or something that's going
to replace EV.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
I don't think you can.

Speaker 8 (31:06):
I don't think so either.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
I don't think you can. I don't think I think
there's going to be a time when an even when
when a gasoline vehicle is going to be like wearing
a genuine fur to the uh to the It's going
to be looked at, not just not just out of
vogue and out of style, but it's going to be shunned.

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(32:13):
you're troubleshooter at three oh three seven one three talk
seven one three eight two five to five. So Dimitri,
give me one of those questions that you've dug up
from a listener.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
Okay, actually I dug these out from the deep, darksick
recess of my own mind.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Uh but uh, okay, go ahead, I have your well.
Are you a listener? Are you a listener? Oh? Of
course you are. I'm listening right now. Is just from
a listener.

Speaker 6 (32:35):
So do you want to ask the expert or stump
the mechanic?

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Which of those would you like? Stump the mechanic. Oh,
I'm going to try to Okay, So here it is, guys.

Speaker 6 (32:45):
So I recently disconnected the battery on my car to
do some some service and keep getting zapped. I then
reconnected the battery and drove away. Now, when I approached
the very first stop sign and stopped, the engine almost died.
And I was looking at the tachometer and it dropped
well below its normal low idol of six hundred and

(33:06):
to maybe a couple of hundred and almost died.

Speaker 8 (33:10):
Why it had to relearn the eye?

Speaker 5 (33:12):
Wow, Well, you take the voltage away, it loses all
its programming, so it it actually learns your driving habits,
and it can it can program to that.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
You're absolutely right. But now wait a minute, Wait a minute, Kevin,
there's no way to preserve the settings when you discant
the battery if.

Speaker 5 (33:28):
You take the battery off, but you keep voltage applied
to the system. But he was trying to keep voltage
out of the system. Now, Kevin is absolutely right.

Speaker 6 (33:36):
However, to take it one step further, what neglected maintenance
does that reveal in my engine ground?

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Nope, maintenance, not repair.

Speaker 8 (33:46):
Throttle cleaning.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
You're absolutely right, throttle body cleaning is now why why?

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (33:53):
Why Kevin, because it uses vacuum. It creates a mini
vacuum leak to raise the IDOL and if you have
too much harbin build up, it's plugging the ports it
uses to create the vacuum leak, and the throttle won't
close all the way.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
What would that have to do with the battery? What
would that have to do with disconnecting nothing?

Speaker 8 (34:11):
This was the second question on to the first.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
Well, now, the reason that Kevin, I believe that the
reason that disconnecting the battery, you've revealed that problem is
as the throttle body got dirtier and dirtier over the years,
the engine learned that and it may compensate for it.
When I disconnected the battery, that learning went away, so
it went back to factory defaults, and factory defaults are

(34:34):
based on a clean, perfectly brand new throttle body. Yep,
absolutely right, could not stump the excent. Very cool.

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Now, Tom Martinez, I'm Tom Martino, and I am doing
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(36:19):
that we do this show each and every day talk
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(36:43):
I know we've been talking about it a lot, but
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I want to hear about it. I mean, this guy
went the extra mile. I mean when we talk about
recovering money and saving and you know, how do we
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(37:05):
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(37:25):
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So we were playing Stump the Mechanic and also Stump
the what d you called it?

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (37:47):
Yesterday was Stump that War and today was Stump the Mechanic.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Okay, now I want you to also did you already
play Stump the Lawyer? Did you stump them at all? Oh?
That was yesterday. I had a list of ten, but
did you stump them?

Speaker 2 (38:01):
No?

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Man, John, I want you to give me some I
want you to give me some of those.

Speaker 6 (38:06):
Oh, okay, give me a minute. I need to grab
my notes from yesterday's show.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah, but first we can go with an auto one
right now, since we're on the air live okay, So well,
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I want to hear the first or the second question
for stump the mechanic.

Speaker 6 (39:10):
Okay, this isn't so I'm gonna mix it up.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
This isn't stump the mechanic.

Speaker 6 (39:13):
This is just general knowledge transfer from Kevin to the
rest of us. Kevin, it is my opinion that one
of the most neglected services, if not the most neglected service,
is coolant change.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Can you tell us if that's.

Speaker 6 (39:29):
Actually important to do and if so, why, well, well,
first let me ask him this.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Let me ask him this first, Kevin, is it one
of the most neglected services.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
I think it's up there because of the manufacturers continually
say you have lifetime anti freeze or lifetime oils and
things like that.

Speaker 8 (39:47):
It's just not.

Speaker 5 (39:48):
True because it builds up acids and things inside the
coolant as it breaks down. There's lubricants that break down.
It's just the benefit far outweighs the you know, the
cost to just get your flui. It's flushed, you know,
every three to five years, depending on the vehicle, depending
on miles. It's not that big a deal. But yeah,
don't it has to be done. It is a challenge.

Speaker 6 (40:09):
And this what are some of the what are some
of the things that could happen to your automobile if
you just never ever change the coolant.

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Well, again, there's acids and the pH changes and stuff
that happen, and then the lubricants that are in there
to lubricate your water pump and seals and everything in
the coolant, you can start having contaminations and corrosion and
other properties that are in the interfreeze. That that's what
its benefit is is anti corrosion and lubricants they break
it down.

Speaker 6 (40:37):
And Kevin, you know, one of the Toyota mechanics I
recently discussed this with, said that a lot of the
head gasket failures in certain Toyota engines are due to
neglected coolant maintenance because it becomes so corrosive it actually
eats through the head gas you get through the gasket.
And Kevin, what is a head gasket project cost them?
A forerunner? Yeah, it's three three to five thousand, depending

(41:01):
on you know, what it needs when you're in there.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah, yes, it's cheap insurance.

Speaker 8 (41:05):
It's not worth it.

Speaker 5 (41:05):
I don't know why people believe the lifetime and you know,
extended one hundred thousand miles.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Well, I know, and the same with extended oil changes.
Now granted we don't have to do three thousand miles
anymore with the new oils and stuff, but you certainly
should never go be ten.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
No, I absolutely not. That's that's the the Unless you're
all highway, you can go up to ten. But if
you're mixed, I think seventy five hundred.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
I do every ten thousand miles, I go in for service,
and that's what the book says for my car, every
ten thousand months. So I've actually only had it in
for three services. You know, think about it. That's pretty
damn cool. Every ten thousand miles. You don't think that's
going too far.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Do you know?

Speaker 5 (41:46):
I think that's pushing the limit, because we're seeing a
lot of vehicles in the seventy to eighty thousand miles
with sludge, and it's built up from oils breaking down.

Speaker 8 (41:55):
That's the only thing that causes sludge.

Speaker 5 (41:57):
So again the benefit of extending it, but it just
isn't there, not for the cost of an oil change
or a cooling flush.

Speaker 6 (42:05):
And Tom, I mean, Kevin doesn't oil sludge. I think
a lot of people don't understand that oil sludge. No,
it sounds kind of icky. Actually leads to engine failure,
like engine failure.

Speaker 8 (42:16):
Get it out of the engine.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
You know, Toyota had a big problem with that, didn't they,
Kevin one time.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
Volkswagen was the one that was brutal. Yeah, they just
they sludge up so heavy in there you'll never get
it out. You can change your well once a week
for a year, it's still in there.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (42:31):
This happened to my friend's Kia just about a year
and a half ago, and that was an infamous recall
they did, and they swapped out her engine for free.
But it was sludge.

Speaker 1 (42:40):
Why why let me ask you this then, why do
Japanese cars or did Japanese cars have more of a
problem with sludge than other cars? Why?

Speaker 5 (42:51):
I think it's just the service intervals, there's no you know,
the heat and everything, it all accumulates. So everybody's trying
to push the window on oil. Change it again. I
don't understand the benefit. You know, save one hundred bucks
and it costs you three grand. It's filly. That's the bottom.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Mile three seven three or three seven one three tall.
I have a text here and it says, if you
have a small leak in your cooling system, is it
acceptable to putting these stop leaks they sell? They claim
they're permanent.

Speaker 8 (43:28):
No, no, just simple.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
You don't like that.

Speaker 5 (43:31):
No, they're they're indiscriminate. You know, it doesn't know a
leak from a from a small capillary and a radiator
or a or your heater core, so it up your system. Yeah,
it doesn't know what it's plugging. Yeah, yeah, get the leak.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
I never trust any of those. I never Yeah, I
never trust any of those that say they're permanent, like
like even like a fix a flat, although I don't
think fix a flat ever claims it's.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
Well and it's not detrimental to the tire. It's getting
you to the next place to get it fixed.

Speaker 8 (44:00):
Spot.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Since we're on cars and we've been talking, EV's we've
been talking cars, we've been talking something mechanic. Here's something
I want to put out there. In all of these years,
they haven't improved on the tire. I mean, obviously they've
they've improved on the compounds and the treads and all that,
but it's still air and a cylinder, and I think
it's stupid. First of all, why can't they be square?

(44:21):
I'm just kidding. No, But on a tire. Here's the
main deal. Here's what I'm thinking. I saw, if you
can picture what a honey cone looks like a honeycomb.
While the little cells, I saw a profile of a
tire one time that was thousands of these cells. It

(44:42):
was all made of rubber and no air. In other words,
that constant the cells made up the cushion instead of air. Now,
obviously there's naturally occurring air in the cells between the cells,
but it wasn't pressurized. And then it was all wrapped

(45:03):
in a steel belted radio. Now, think about this, You
would never have air, You would never leak ever, think
about it. What do you guys think?

Speaker 2 (45:11):
No?

Speaker 5 (45:11):
I think's an awesome Yeah. I mean you see a lot
of that on bicycle tires too.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
But why don't they do any of that?

Speaker 2 (45:16):
Why?

Speaker 1 (45:17):
I mean, it would still wear out because you have
the outer you know, you have the tread that will
wear out, but you don't have air ever to worry about. Ever.
A nail would do nothing to that. Why don't people
ever look at stuff?

Speaker 5 (45:29):
It's like a hybrid run flat basically is what it is.
But I'm sure they're working on it. I think it's
just not cost effect.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
What is a run flat? What's inside of a run flat?

Speaker 8 (45:38):
Just it's it's just thicker side walls and everything else
to go with it. They're they're impossible to get them
off the rims because there's no flex to them. It's
just a lot thicker sidewill.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
But is it? Is it?

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (45:50):
That's all it is basically. Yeah, it's oversimplified, but yeah,
it's just more of a solid tire.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
So that's okay.

Speaker 8 (45:58):
Technology. Well I'm gonna that's what's coming.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Yeah, okay, I want do you have a quick stunt?
The lawyer question for me?

Speaker 4 (46:07):
Sure?

Speaker 1 (46:07):
You know.

Speaker 6 (46:08):
The my most the one I was most interested in is, uh,
would would John Fuller recommend that people who install dashcam
cameras like I did deactivate the audio audio recording feature
like I did. That was an interesting question because and
the reason is that that audio might provide evidence that's

(46:30):
contrary to my best interest in an accident such as
you have.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
But so could video. So could video?

Speaker 6 (46:37):
Really forward looking video doesn't record me talking on the
phone or looking for or looking for a particular address
in a building, or eating soup or shaving or something
you know, and and and and so it could be
that the opposing side could make an argument that, hey, I,
if I didn't cause the accident, I at least contributed

(46:59):
to it because I wasn't able to react quickly enough
because I was yammering on the phone.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
See that's yeah, that's a weird kind of question. That's
not really a stump, but uh, what's your opinion kind
of thing. I would say, if you're going to have video,
I don't think you need the audio. I mean, realy
would you need it anyway?

Speaker 6 (47:22):
Yeah, I just want to record who's that fault. I
don't want to create even more questions about my reaction
time if I was looking at an address or I've.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Never Actually that's a good question, though, has video or
has audio ever been used in a video dash cam
in fact, I'd like to talk to anyone, one person.
We've never had a case where someone's called and said,
thank god I had a dash cam. Here's why, keV.
Have you ever had a dash can brought up for
service of any kind?

Speaker 8 (47:51):
No?

Speaker 5 (47:51):
No, but you know we have cameras all over the shop,
so it's you know, we're not in the cars though.

Speaker 8 (47:57):
Yeah.

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(49:34):
five Man, we have a lot going on here, and
I like what Dimitri's doing. He's uh, trying to stump
us either with legal kind of things or car kind
of things. And I like it. And do you have
any more? And by the way, I want you to
call if you have a problem question to plan. I
do have some texts I'll get to in a minute.

(49:55):
They're just not all that compelling, but they're asking advice
on cars. Guy said they are working on a tire
that needs no air. Someone else said there is a
version of that out already, but for some reason, airless
tires have not become commercially viable, and I don't know why. Now.

(50:18):
One thing a lot of the big trucks do in
the RVs is they use molecules that are bigger than air,
so they don't slow leak as much. And I'm talking
about nitrogen. Have you heard of that? keV?

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (50:30):
Yeah, run especially a little cooler too, so you know
the tire doesn't wear as long.

Speaker 8 (50:34):
Yeah, no nitrogen.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
So where do you buy nitrogen? Where do you buy nitrogen?

Speaker 8 (50:39):
Well, any discount tire has it?

Speaker 1 (50:42):
No? Really no, yeah, most tire places. Can you ask
that your tires? Now, what happens if you have nitrogen
in your tires and you got to refill or you
got to top them off and you don't have nitrogen?
Can you mix air any.

Speaker 5 (50:54):
Yes, yeah, it's not going to hurt anything. But if
you have a green cap on the valve stem, it's notitrogen.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
So what's the benefit of nitrogen?

Speaker 5 (51:05):
The molecules are molecules, and it runs a little cooler,
it can dissipate heat better than the than the standard
air composible.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
It's it expensive compared to well compared to air, air
is really other than paying for the compressor when you
stop it a.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
Cast, It's just an apparatus that pulls it out of
the air. It's nothing, nothing fancy.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Wait a minute, so it's not like a gash. You
have to go buy a bulk. You can actually you can. Wait,
Could I get from a hangar? Could I get literally
a little compressor that produces nitrogen?

Speaker 2 (51:38):
No?

Speaker 1 (51:38):
You can't. Sure you can, yeah, because a lot of
people with aircraft are going to nitrogen, and I'd like
to put I'd like to put nitrogen in my helicopter tires.
Ha ha ha, but boom, I know some do have
some do have tires. But anyway, so let's talk about

(52:02):
the next question.

Speaker 6 (52:04):
Go ahead, okay, do you want the question or the
stump the mechanic?

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Whatever you want either one.

Speaker 6 (52:10):
You stump the mechanic and Kevin, I apologize, this is
going to be a weird one, but I think you'll
figure it out pretty quickly. This actually happened to me
when I was in high school. I had a pretty
old car, like most high school students do, and I
was getting intermittent battery connection failures. I could tell because
the radio would go out, the lights would go out.
So I, well, it's not what you think. You're gonna

(52:34):
be stumped too, Tom, I want to hear your answer first. Actually,
I removed the clamp from the battery post and it
fell off. The clamp fell off the cable and when
it fell off, a huge amount of blue and green
crystals and powder just poured out of the installation.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
What what happened? Moisture and the air of v app
they evaporated, leaving behind the or a corroded it too
as well, plus the metals in the water. So what
was the moistures getting moistures getting? Probably uh, it's the

(53:15):
corrosion from the copper capper.

Speaker 8 (53:21):
Backup in the sheathing of the cave.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Right, that's right, But how But my question is how
would that happen? If it's properly shielded. It never happened.
And the way I shield it, I even go one
step further. Although I will say the newer cars now
are like, gosh, dang it, you can't they're they're air tight.
But I used to do some heat shrink or some

(53:43):
this rap they make. Now have you seen that wrap
that fuses on itself?

Speaker 8 (53:48):
Yet?

Speaker 1 (53:50):
So for my aircraft stuff. I take that. I think
it's called teflon. I'm not no, I don't think it
is tephlon, though maybe it is. But it's this black
stuff that looks like tape. It's the same on both sides.
It's not really sticky, well it is kind of sticky,
but it's tacky, that's what's itself. And then what you
do is you wrap it and I wrap it right
around the wires, right up to the terminals, right up

(54:13):
to where that even where that where it's crimped. And
then and then you tut and you you squeeze your
hands like you know what I mean, and it fuses.
It literally becomes like one substance without any heat. So
it's not even like a heat shrink. It just fuses
on itself. You've seen that, right, Kevin.

Speaker 8 (54:32):
Absolutely, Now we use stuff like that electrical. We have
a liquid duct tape or liquid electric tape they call it.
So you can really.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Steal, right, Tomtree, are we right or wrong on this?
Are we right or wrong?

Speaker 6 (54:43):
You guys are absolutely correct. So what happened was the
battery acid. I had an old crimy battery like many
people do, and the battery acid was seeping out of
the battery, and it was crawling up the cable through
capillary action, and it was getting sucked and sucked in
inside that insulation. And I actually had to cut away,
I'm not kidding you, like six or seven inches of

(55:05):
my big, you know, primary battery cable until I got
to actual copper to repair this problem.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Yeah, yeah. And then you wrapped it properly after that, right,
or he shrunk it or something. No, that was before
I knew.

Speaker 6 (55:17):
I was sixteen, This was before I knew about heat
shrink wrapping. And I just bought a new battery.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
You know, it's amazing, how much speaking of knowing, it's amazing.
You know, I was playing that YouTube video about how
different people look at car problems. One sits behind the
wheel and says, oh, that's my watrum, call my caliber,
or that's my this, or that's my that, and they
they say, I'll have to fix that. They get out,
open up the hood right. Next person says, oh, wait

(55:47):
a minute, I got to call my mechanic. What the
hell is that noise? You know? So that's all right,
So they call him mccank. Next one says, these are
progressively younger generations. Then the next one says, goes to AI,
what does it mean when blah blah blah blah. The
next one says, oh, my god, I need a new car.

(56:09):
So you know this is falling apart around.

Speaker 13 (56:12):
I have I have a question for all of you. Yes,
I'm assuming nobody has triple A.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
I do.

Speaker 13 (56:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Oh, in other words, in other words, why not just
call triple A? You're right? Well, you know that's a
good point, Kelly. Well, and you call triple A, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (56:34):
I you know, instead of calling triple A. I prefer
to use my Y chromosome. You're what my y chromosomes?

Speaker 13 (56:42):
I have a double X over here. And yes, I
did ask Kevin why breaks need fluid this morning? I
will admit that apparently they you who knew?

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Wait if breaks have?

Speaker 12 (56:57):
What?

Speaker 13 (56:58):
I asked Kevin if needed fluid? Because my kid's car.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Well not a Model T. But you know, I mean,
well forgot okay, or a carriage with horses.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
I didn't.

Speaker 13 (57:09):
I don't there's so much fluid in cars. I mean,
I get confused. You know that's an atom question. You
know I can make two flas. But anyway, and.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
What are the three hold on? I got something. I
got a casual but a little trivia here. What are
the three main purposes of fluid in a vehicle? What
are they? Number one would be what lubrication?

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Right?

Speaker 13 (57:32):
Gas?

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Number two?

Speaker 13 (57:35):
Gas to make it go?

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Okay, that's okay, you're you're technically correct there. I guess
we yeah, you're right. Okay, So fuel lubrication. And then
I guess we could say coolant, cooling. So what's the
other ones?

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Hold on?

Speaker 1 (57:51):
What are the other purposes? What are the other purposes
of fluids? One would be hydraulic or pressure creating fluid,
air conditioning. That's a that's not yeah, but but hydraulic
fluids would create pressure for radio. I don't know of
any radios, and then steering this hydraulic though.

Speaker 13 (58:13):
Text just the radio. Okay, the radio doesn't work.

Speaker 8 (58:18):
The radio needs fluid.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
Oh my god, Wait a minute, Kelly, Kelly, I want
you to hold on, put your hand on your heart
and tell me you honestly were wondering that.

Speaker 13 (58:28):
No, I was saying, if the car doesn't go, I
can't have the radio. Thank god, there's a caller.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
But wait, what the hell does that have? So she
wanted to know if the if the radio needed fluid.
You know what, here's the deal, fluid. Here's a phenomenon.
There's a phenomenon called the turkey death that I hope
never she never experiences. But I'm coming to think that
if she asked that question, maybe she could. And that's
where it's raining and they look up at the rain

(59:00):
and they don't close their mouths or cover their noses
and they drown. No, no, you've heard of that right
here when you looked outside and saw the snows.

Speaker 13 (59:09):
No, okay, we're having a w k RP moment right
now where less what was his name, less less nessmans
Lesson did the turkey thing and he dropped all the
turkeys out when well, he.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Said, as God is my witness, yes, I thought turkeys
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(01:00:08):
Martine here, you're Trumbleshooter three oh three seven one three
talk seven one three A two five five. We've been
having kind of fun with some trivia. I have a question.
I have something and here's the question. Okay, and then
I'm going to give you the answer, or no, you
give me the answer, Dimitria, This one is for you. Okay,
what is the what is the correct ignition timing? On

(01:00:31):
a nineteen fifty five bel Air Chevrolet with a three
twenty seven cubic inch four barrel carberet Kelly's good? Now,
what are you laughing at?

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
keV?

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
Kevin? What are you laughing at? No, he didn't hear
the question. He just walked back in. Can you please
repeat it for Kevin's who was laughing? That was me? Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
Who?

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
And Okay, here's the question, keV. Here's the question. What
is the correct ignition timing? On a ninth team fifty
five bel Air Chevrolet with a three to twenty seven
cubic inch engine and a four barrel carburetor.

Speaker 13 (01:01:07):
That's a BS question.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Hey, how'd you wait a minute? You recognize that? Kelly?

Speaker 6 (01:01:14):
Yeah, thick, everybody recognize Kelly's a.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Secret cargol Wait everyone recognized that? Oh yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:01:20):
And the correct answer is four degrees before top dead Center.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
No, the answer is Chevy didn't make it three twenty
seven and fifty five twenty seven doesn't come out until
sixty two, and it wasn't offered in the Belaire with
the four barrel carburetor till sixty four. However, the nineteen
sixty four the correct ignition timing would be four degrees
before top dead center. So there go yourself.

Speaker 8 (01:01:45):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
Anyway, that was a fun nywait to reflect. I remember
what movie was that? What movie was it?

Speaker 13 (01:01:54):
My cousin Vinny?

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
But what the right Kelly? Did you here? I need
to know this though. Did you recognize it? Or did
Dragon tell you?

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
No?

Speaker 13 (01:02:02):
No, I recognized it for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
I love that man, I love that movie.

Speaker 13 (01:02:06):
Will here, I'm in, But I will tell you. Okay,
I knew I had such a crush on her. What
were you what you were talking about? But I had
no idea about cars before I actually watched that movie
and I actually and then that gave you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
The the.

Speaker 1 (01:02:27):
Now here's the guy. So here's a guy who says,
I used nitrogen in all of my cars. Nothing better.
I paid one time fee of five dollars a tire
and I get refills for life. Did you know that
at Big O refills for life and you pay five bucks? Wow?

(01:02:48):
Three oh three seven one three talk seven one three
eight two five five. Next question, Dmitri, go.

Speaker 6 (01:02:53):
Ahead, okay, Kevin? Why should we change spark plugs? And
what would happen if we don't?

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
Well, they're the change intervals are much much longer with
the newer engines because without the carburetors and the dumping
of fuel and everything, they lasts a long time. But
the outside, I mean it'll start misfiring. I've seen it
go as far as blowing up a computer because the
coil driver in the computer gets overloaded because the gap

(01:03:24):
of the plug gets too big from use. So, I mean,
from one end it's performance another end, you can cause
damage from running plugs too long.

Speaker 6 (01:03:32):
I didn't realize you can actually cause damage, electrical damage.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Yes, that's that's pretty scary.

Speaker 5 (01:03:37):
Yeah, yeah, seventeen hundred dollars computer driver inside the computer
got wiped out because of the plug. The gap was
too big.

Speaker 6 (01:03:44):
Now, Kevin, that's got to be another one of the
most neglected maintenance side It was on color again.

Speaker 5 (01:03:49):
It's nothing service intervals. Everybody thinks everything's maintenance free. Oh yeah,
you know, the plugs aren't too bad. I mean, you
can go seventy five eighty thousand miles on a set
of plugs, you know, without any problem.

Speaker 6 (01:04:00):
But they have these plugs, iridium tipped plugs, and they
advertise the service life of over one hundred thousand miles.

Speaker 5 (01:04:07):
Now I should not take that at face value. I
don't want to take anything to failure. So yeah, they're
talking one hundred thousand miles, you'll start experiencing failure. Oh
not just deterioration.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Okay, more, we got more coming up. But I have
a question, and or not a question, but a theory
and a philosophy. Is something I've always done. Before I
could afford new cars, and I would buy a used car.
And then later on when I started buying used aircraft,
I never cared about previous records. Well I cared about it.

(01:04:40):
I didn't want anything abused. I always got it checked
out but then I did, And Kevin and I have
discussed this before. I call it zero timing the car
or the engine or the aircraft.

Speaker 6 (01:04:54):
Baselining also yes, yeah, and Dmitri, you se like the
type of person that would do that. Yeah, when I So,
when I got my beloved for runner, I spent about
three weeks and a ton of money, uh, baselining it completely, baselining.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
It every anything it needed. And if there was a hesitation,
for example, like on a timing belt that needs to
be changed, not changed, that don't have to be but
if something has to be changed, you change it and
you know it's done, and and and you do all
of the fluids, all of the belts, and all of
the hoses. Is that what you're talking about? I didn't.
I didn't do the hoses because they're in wonderful condition.

Speaker 6 (01:05:32):
But I changed seven fluids, the spark plugs, the brake pads,
and the associated springs and shims. And the biggest thing
I did, I replaced literally the entire suspension with a
brand new one. And I also swapped out both of
the outer tyrod ends all with OEM toilet well need Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Yeah, So Kevin, do you do you think used car
dealers ever do that.

Speaker 8 (01:05:58):
Before they saw the car? Oh no, yeah, no, no,
not even close. Most of them.

Speaker 5 (01:06:04):
You know they'll go through and hit the safety stuff.
The good lots will. But as far as zero maintenance, no, no,
it's only as required.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Well, I have a question coming back, and it is
with no owner's manual, I mean theoretically no owner's manuel.
I know you can find one. What service would every
car need? What would be apropos for all cars when
you just get a car? If you have no service
manual or no owner's manual, what can you rest assured

(01:06:34):
that you would have to do? And on what periodical
basis would you do it? Jay's got a question on
Corvette sixty six breaks. We'll do that coming back to
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with Remax Alliance three all three nine two zero sixteen
twenty two. Hey Tom Martino here three O three seven
one three talks on one three each twenty five to five. Jay,
what is your question on a sixty six corvette?

Speaker 14 (01:07:36):
Okay, so if you remember this one from about thirty
years ago, you don't get to answer. Sixty three corvette. Actually,
guy drives it to work. When he gets to work,
the breaks loock solid. He gets his little wrench out
and bleeds off the pressure. He dries it home just
about time he gets homes, breakslocks solid, he gets out

(01:07:59):
as takes pressure off over again.

Speaker 9 (01:08:02):
For days.

Speaker 14 (01:08:04):
And days days, no one can figure it out what's
going on.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
I don't know what do you think, keV?

Speaker 8 (01:08:15):
I've seen proportioning valves do that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
I know what it is?

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Val What is it?

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
I know what it is? What is it?

Speaker 6 (01:08:26):
So brake lines corrode from the inside out. So these
brake lines are sold and corroded. They're now acting like
check valves. They allow the hydraulic fluid to come into
the pistons, but they don't allow it to come back out.
That's what I think is going on? How old are
the flex lines on this corvette?

Speaker 14 (01:08:48):
Well, actually all placed. This corvette went to a dealer
probably fifteen times, maybe more than that. Tick God, I
knew everything. Problem never solved until I do know the answer,
so I can tell you, right.

Speaker 8 (01:09:05):
Yeah, what is it?

Speaker 14 (01:09:06):
That's a good one. It come on, Yeah, you got
what you said.

Speaker 8 (01:09:09):
Everything got replaced masters slaves, I mean everything.

Speaker 9 (01:09:12):
That's right?

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Well, yes, so what did it turn out to be?

Speaker 9 (01:09:16):
Tom?

Speaker 14 (01:09:16):
If you remember this? It turned out to be the
half shafts had a vibration in it. Yeah, this was
on your show quite a bit.

Speaker 11 (01:09:27):
Yeah, saft okay in it?

Speaker 9 (01:09:28):
And I said, this.

Speaker 14 (01:09:30):
Vibration is making the little plungers that move move. The
brakes actually expanded contract just enough to create a time,
a little bit of pressure.

Speaker 9 (01:09:42):
This builds up and up and up and up and
up and up. Eventually it locks it solid. And I was.

Speaker 14 (01:09:49):
I was told that wasn't even possible. It was there
Domat saying anybody ever heard in their lives. And finally
the owner was so frustrated he said, all right, do
you think it'll fix it?

Speaker 9 (01:09:59):
Go or nobody else can fix it? So I did,
can it work.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Wow again, that's they are easy. Oh no, that's not.
You're not Jr. You're Jay right. I always get you confused.
Jay is one of our car experts that calls in Kevin. Anyway,
we got more coming up on the Troubleshooter Show. We're
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Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
You need it by so you don't have.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
Come running just as fast as you can.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Shooter's gonna help coming.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
Man Dix, he is the Troubleshooter Show. No tell Martine, Hello,
let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Let's solve your problems, answer your questions, take your plans.
You know I've been doing this in Denver, forty five
years and longer of you if you take into my
total careers fifty years, and I should have some kind
of party, really I should. So any ideas, let's have
a party trio?

Speaker 9 (01:11:37):
Yeah? No, just so?

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
How about a what do you call it? A hallmark
partner or a milestone party? I'm oh, what is it
called a milestone anyway? Something like that? Do you ever
notice though, in Denver, whenever IM media person, no matter
how long they could be on the air for six minutes,
and when they retire they're a legend. I often wonder
about what it takes to be a legend, what does

(01:12:02):
it take? Because I don't think we've had any broadcasting legends.
Oh wait, Bob Palmer would have been one. I would
have called him a broadcast ed sardella. Usual to retire
from radio, typically they fire your ass first, well, typically
they take you out feet first. But as far as

(01:12:23):
retiring from radio, you're right, people get fired and TV.
More people retire from TV than radio. TV, though you know,
TV has gotten pretty stable, and that's because and I
don't think I tried to think about this. Is it
because I'm getting older and it's all relatively different to

(01:12:46):
me or is it really happening? So you tell me dragon,
because you're not old, you're not an old guy, and
you can tell me Kachina. Here's what I'm thinking. Do
the kids on TV reporting look way younger than they
used to? And I know we were all young at
one time. I'm not trying to say oh in my day,
and I'm not trying to point my bony finger. I'm

(01:13:06):
just asking do they seem don't they seem they seem
truly like kids and like like like I would think
it's high school journal I call it high school journalism.
But they're not doing a bad job.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
In fact, some.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Of them do a great job. In fact, I love them.
I mean, I'm not even talking about quality. I'm just
talking about their age. They look so damn young. Now
I do I want to say something else, and I
don't know this is DEI or this is just we
ran out of pretty people. But I think that they're
more inclusive when it comes to looks. And I mean

(01:13:46):
that in a good way, by the way, And it's
no smart ass remark. I'm not trying to push an agenda,
and I'm not calling anyone ugly, but I think we
have a way bigger variety now of body shapes and
sizes and and and and how tall sure people are
and their facial features. You don't have to necessarily be
all that attractive. And I'm saying that's a good thing.

(01:14:09):
I'm not saying people are downright ugly. No one is
actually ugly when you get to know them, right, if
they're good people. But I'm talking about that that I
think it's improved. I really do. I think TV has
improved in that regard.

Speaker 13 (01:14:22):
I don't know about that. I have to do a
big time out on that because I just got back
last week from being a week in LA where I
had to endure every local media station because they always
broadcast this the Storm of the century, because every time

(01:14:44):
we get rain in Los Angeles, it is the storm
of the century, and there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Are well we do that here too. Come on, oh, everyone,
wether we're obsessed with weather. Nothing wrong with being obsessed
with weather, by the way.

Speaker 13 (01:15:00):
Close to the to the storm of the century. Like
all the graphics that are plasted on the chirons and everything,
I mean, it's they're plastered everywhere, and you kind of
have the talent though, hold on, I'm not talking about
that's the production that they are all. I saw no

(01:15:23):
white people on anything.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Well, what does that mean, Kelly.

Speaker 13 (01:15:27):
And I'm not saying that that's a bad thing. I'm
just saying that was noticeable that the anchors everyone, they're
all diversity. And that's fine, that's fine, that's of course
it is, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
That's here's the more important here's the more important question, Kelly,
before you get my show canceled, let me let me
interject here. I think that there was a time when
TV news was all white people, and then there was
a time when when everyone had to look a certain way,
and I went through all of that, and I don't
think you necessarily Here's I think people should be selected
on merit. But I do think this, and this is

(01:16:04):
going to sound a little deish, it might sound progressive,
but I'm just going to say this. If you're talking
about something like TV and entertainment and all of that,
should it be merit based. Of course it should. But
where there are tie breakers and you have a staff
that leans heavily one way or another, I do believe

(01:16:25):
it would be a good idea for these occupations. Only
I'm talking about like in the public eye And don't
get me wrong, I'm not saying we should push any
agenda or any person, or any ideology or anything. But
when it comes to what people are looking at, I
want my little kids. I want my little minority kids,
and my little white kids, and my little Indian kids,

(01:16:46):
my little whatever kids to see maybe parts of themselves.
And I think that's a good thing. I don't mean
that we have to force and I don't think we
have to force it, and it certainly doesn't have to
be lopsided one way or the other. But I think
that's that's a cool thing. I can see themselves. I
agree with you. And I know as far as what
that stupid fire chief said or that you know, they

(01:17:09):
when somebody comes to save you, you want to you
want like you, And I said what I want just
the opposite. I want some seven foot burly guy that
or a woman that can pick me up over their
shoulder and save me. You like, give a damn it.
I mean, I don't care what they look like. And
when I when I have a surgeon, I have never
once looked at a surgeon and thought, hey, wait a minute,

(01:17:32):
where where's the dwarf or where's the uh Italian or
where's the Puerto Rican? And the reason I mentioned Dwarfs,
by the way, I just want to because that one
news conference just made me laugh like crazy bell when
Trump was till.

Speaker 13 (01:17:46):
I'm not trying to say anything. I'm not trying to
get your show canceled. I don't think I said anything
that's not noticeable. But you know, I grew up of
two of the with two of the best broadcasters known
to radio and television, and that is Vince Well, thank
you very.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
Much, Kelly. You didn't have to You really didn't have
to say that.

Speaker 13 (01:18:06):
Three Sorry, Okay, Vince Gully, chick Hern and Cal Martine.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
No, he's Vince Kellys, Scully's good.

Speaker 13 (01:18:18):
Good chick Hern the best. So I basically grew up
with them. They were my entire childhood, so I knew
nothing but them.

Speaker 1 (01:18:30):
But I love, you know, I used to love watching
Walter Cronkite. Wasn't that cool or Chet Hun and all
these old bands, but they were they were like they
were one sided back then on how people looked and
who they were, old white men. And but I really
I love David Cronkite, I mean he was so cool

(01:18:50):
and Walter, you know, but nowadays, if I want to
be honest, we have great talent on the air right now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
We do, we we have.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
I think I think that I think we have good
talent on the air right now. I think we we
are blessed in broadcasting. You have a lot of good talent.
Now we have a lot of sucky talent too, obviously,
but we have I think, mainly good people. When I
look at all networks, even when I don't agree with them,
I kind of like, there, you know what I'm gonna say,
something like like you may think I'm crazy. I'm only

(01:19:22):
talking about entertainment value and P factor and Q factor
and delivery and style. Okay, there are some people you
find obnoxious I think because of what they're saying. But
when you look beyond that, I think you find some
really cool deliveries and stuff like that. And if you

(01:19:45):
examine that, like I happen to think, even though I
can't stand her, I think Rachel Maddow is a great broadcaster.
I know, I do. I think. I mean, I don't
agree with the words you says, and I know people
find her obnoxious, but it's very entertaining. She's very engaging,

(01:20:06):
and where Jake Trapper is a Snoresville Snoresville right, and
wolf Blitzer used to be a dynamic He just needs
no one to hang it up. My god, I saw
him the other day and I thought, who they get
from the home? So do you does anyone come to
mind with you? People on on some really good broadcasters? Seriously,

(01:20:29):
I'm not talking about like newspeople in general. I'm talking
about broadcasting. Well, almost everything's broadcast nowadays. Even the print
people get on broadcasts. But I think that we have
such a plethora of talent it's really hard to stand
out nowadays, don't you guys think, especially when you throw
into the mix, not just broadcast personalities but actual actually

(01:20:55):
like TikTok and YouTube and Instagram. I mean, there is
so much competition. It's very difficult to stand out, very difficult.
If you have any calls. Would today's car day? We're
talking cars, but we'll talk about anything you want. And
I did an interesting thing. I did some research on

(01:21:15):
movies that have car makes or models actually in the title.
Not movies about cars. There's a ton of those, But
what about movies whose titles have a car in it?
Like exactly, that's the first one. Everyone first.

Speaker 8 (01:21:40):
That's a cool car.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
How about Mustang Country.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
Get here?

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
That one is seventy six? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Ford v.

Speaker 13 (01:21:54):
Ferrari.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
I love that movie. That's a cool movie.

Speaker 8 (01:21:57):
Was that a true story was based on a on
a factual astoria?

Speaker 6 (01:22:03):
Now how bellis realized that's another question.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
But yeah, that actually took place. And that was the
Ford that finally beat Ferrari. Which one was it? By
the way, was it the Ford became the Ford GT? Okay, see,
I didn't know that. And then Corvette Summer. I don't
remember that movie. I've heard of it. I've never heard

(01:22:26):
of this one either, The Yellow Rolls Royce Nothing, Yeah,
the Yellow Rolls Royce. How about charger for twenty six?
Remember the four to twenty six Hemi engine? Oh it's
the Dodge charger, a Dodge charger. Anyway, we got more
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three two five five. You know, speaking of talent, we
were talking about broadcasting talent, and then we got off

(01:24:12):
on a conversation. It could have been off the air
about you know, singers and other people who've tried to
carry on for their parents and couldn't hold the couldn't
hold the spotlight, or couldn't hold their their's there as shoes,
actually some of them. But what about people who are
famous right now for no apparent reason? And I know
the first name that came to your mind? And if

(01:24:33):
it didn't start with a K, then you don't know
what you're talking about?

Speaker 8 (01:24:37):
Which K you're talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
Which K? I'm talking about the main K, not the mom,
not the but Kim yep.

Speaker 4 (01:24:49):
I.

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
Actually Chris Kardashian is a brilliant businesswoman. She capitalized on
a bunch of nothing now and the husband was a
great attorney. The original on the second husband, of course,
is Caitlin Bruce Jenner. So here's the deal. The deal

(01:25:09):
is this? I mean, how do you get famous for
nothing for having sex and your mom leaking the tape?
Isn't that what happened? Although she doesn't admission leaked it?
Kim Kardashian, what is her talent? You know? Remember named
that tune? We should have a show called Name that

(01:25:33):
Talent where you have famous people come on and you
try to name their talent. Sometimes there is no talent.
Then you have people that have so much talent they
don't even know what direction to go. They're so talented.
And then you have people have talent that's really unrecognized.

(01:25:54):
But I think everyone loves people with talent. Think where
we get sick and tired of people with talent, or
when they take the talent and they're fame and then
they try to push an agenda like because I can sing,
I can now tell you who to vote for, or
I can tell you how to think or the way

(01:26:15):
you should be thinking. And there are some really bad
people that Jennifer Jennifer Enison is the worst. I mean,
first of all, she's a moderate actress, not even close
to being good, but she is always preaching always. You

(01:26:36):
get tired of it, don't you do? You get tired
of it. I get tired of it.

Speaker 9 (01:26:39):
So let's go back to.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
Well, I mean, you know, and I mean I'm not
saying they can't have an opinion. Of course they can.
I don't know why. You know, de Niro was obsessed.
He was absolute. I love Robert de Niro's acting, anyone
who says he's not the greatest actor that ever lived,
but he was ups tesked with Trump. I mean, it
was too a you want to talk about derangerent syndrome.

(01:27:05):
This guy was obsessed with him and and god, he
just looked so angry. Did you ever see the tapes
in the crap that he did about Trump? I mean
on YouTube it was it was ranged a little unbalanced. Okay,
So Furious Mustang was a movie we named the Other

(01:27:28):
Karri Yep, that's right, and then Tucker was a car
at the time. Lamborghini was the name of a movie.
And then we had the Rolls Royce Baby, and then
the Cadillac Man my mother's read Mercedes and Pontiac Moon. Wow,

(01:27:48):
these arekad No, I've never heard some of the Christine
Camaro crash dots in two eighty z X Lincoln Lawyer.
Did any mention Lincoln Lawyer that it was just going
to do it? The Lincoln Lawyer absolutely. And so anyway,

(01:28:08):
those were movies that had the cars in them. Did
you know there was one called the Bugatti Boys?

Speaker 8 (01:28:18):
Nope?

Speaker 1 (01:28:19):
And how many Bugottis do they sell a year? I
mean that car. That car just befuddles the hell out
of me. How they get so much money for that car? Oh,
this is kind of weird, but it was about it
was not named after a jeep, but it was jeepers creepers.
Now there are movies about cars, and they are way

(01:28:43):
that way out numbers the actual titles. But like Fast
and Furious series, how many were were they make? Sixteen
of those movies? Gone in sixty seconds? The worst movie
I've ever seen in my life. There's actually two of
them with Nick Cage.

Speaker 8 (01:29:00):
Yep, it was.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
I thought it was terrible, and then one called built
Steve McQueen. So still a bad movie. Vanishing Point? Anybody
anybody remember Vanishing Point? About the Italian Job? Tell me
tell me the uh the cars that were used in

(01:29:24):
the Italian Job? First, the sixty four thousand dollars question.

Speaker 6 (01:29:27):
Well, those were a whole bunch of original Mini Coopers.

Speaker 1 (01:29:30):
Right, you're right man, you know a lot. Dimitri, what
the henybody?

Speaker 8 (01:29:35):
You remember? Chitty TD Bang Bang?

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
How about Herbie the Love Bud? Yes, yeah, Lamon's Lamon's
How about Days of Thunder a Grand Prix, yep, Lamon's Drive,
Baby Driver or Baby yeah, baby Driver?

Speaker 8 (01:29:52):
Best Proof, the Firebirds and Smoking in the.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
Bandit yeahan then they Transporter. I love Jason stathum Man.
He's a cool actor.

Speaker 8 (01:30:05):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
He's very understated and he doesn't get the acclaim like
Schwartzenegger and the other guys get or von dom did.
But does anyone know who I mean Jason stay them?
Did you know who he is? Cool guy?

Speaker 13 (01:30:20):
Google's very cool. Well, my husband has a brush on him.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
Very well, he is so cool, he really is. I
love his movies, A need for Speed. And then of
course all the Mad Max movies. They were kind of
car related, right, and then Cannonballs Run, Oh man, they
were like they were big time Cannonball Run. Smokey and

(01:30:46):
the Bandit did you know there were three of those?
And then the Wraith. It was a supernatural revenge movie
and a guy had a dodge, and then Redline and
then Torque. I don't remember that that was mostly about
motorcycles though. Then you had cars from Disney. You had cars, cars,

(01:31:12):
two cars, three, Herbie the love Bug, of course, Herbie
rise again, Herbie goes to Monte Carlo, Herbie goes Bananas,
Herbie fully loaded. Then you had speed Racer, two lane,
Black Tom God, there's so many cars are such a
big deal for us. Then the actual what's the one that,

(01:31:34):
Oh Christine, isn't that a thriller? Who wrote that one
that's isn't that a Stephen King? Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:31:43):
Yeah, but by the way, hold on, I have to
do another time out. Yeah, you're going to you're going
to disparage gone in sixty seconds, but you're gonna laud
Days of Thunder.

Speaker 1 (01:31:57):
No, no, I hate Days of Thunder?

Speaker 13 (01:31:58):
Okay, good, just wanted to make sure.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Yeah, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:32:02):
In fact, there are not many Tom Cruise movie. Well
I shouldn't say that. I like the Top One series,
but most of Tom Cruise movies are just monuments to himself.
You know, He's how can I make myself look cool?
And I mean the acting is not there. And I
mean Tom does have talent though, man, I mean not

(01:32:23):
that he cares what I think. But there was this
one movie he played this guy, this bald guy, this
fat bald guy, Tropic Thunder. Yes, yes, yes, you're right man.
You know that told me that this guy's got talent.
I mean he truly went out of himself on that one.

(01:32:45):
Because there are a lot of actors who act like
themselves and you know, and I have a feeling d
Niro's one of them. I mean d Niro's brilliant. He's
freaking brilliant. But really, if you look at all his characters,
aren't they all kind of the same expressions, this same
smirk on his face, A smart ass. No matter what

(01:33:07):
he plays, it's it's a smart ass. I like him,
but you're right, it's a smart ass and he plays
it very well. And I think one of the most
understated talented people in show business, honest to god, one
of the understated is a Jimmy Fallon. He he truly

(01:33:27):
he can act, he can sing, he can dance. He's
just an old and Jimmy Fallon. He grew up twelve
miles away from me in a small town, went to
high school with my first wife, and he was that
He was from this little town in upstate New York
called Sogrates, and he put that place on the map

(01:33:49):
because he was such a good guy. He'd come back
and and and he never got too big for his
hometown and would really gratiate himself around town. And he's
just a down to earth person. Deputy Bow Right after this,
he's gonna tell us about yesterday. Now, I know we
talked about it actually leading up to it, but what
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(01:34:58):
one three eight two five five. Deputy Bow is an upsy,
so I want to Basically, a woman called in her
eighties and said, they say I need a new furnace.
That's really what it boils down to, and the furnace
would have cost her nine grand or more. Deputy Boux investigated,
and what did you find, Bow?

Speaker 11 (01:35:17):
Yes, Arlene, she had no heed. She called approximately five
companies out there and he basically, we're just trying to
sell her new equipment. Most of them skated that the
furnace is inhoperable, of course, but no parts were available.

(01:35:38):
He just couldn't get parts for it, and her hands
on a fit income. She's got her daughter and I
think some grandkids living there. They just couldn't afford the
nine thousand dollars for a new furnace. And it was
a it's trained equipment to eighty percent efficient. It's about
fifteen years old. I went over there and looked at

(01:35:59):
it and was able to determine basically what the issue was,
and it was the motor in the computer assists for
the available speed drive. I couldn't play one locally, but
I called the manufacture train and I told them the
story about ear Lean and how she didn't have heat
in her house it's October, and uh, you know, they

(01:36:22):
felt sorry for and they they went ahead and contacted
a distributors back east to New Jersey and found the
engine with the computer board and they now hold on, bo.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
Bo, you bo, You've been in the business years and years,
and what I want to isn't it unusual to have
parts available for old furnaces like that?

Speaker 11 (01:36:47):
Yes, they're available, but this was this was a union.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
But is it unusual? Is it unusual that they're available
or are they readily available?

Speaker 11 (01:36:57):
They're normally readily available if you look for them.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
Okay, then I want to know this, Why are so
many companies? And I guess the answer is profit. Why
are so many companies hell bent on replacing? If someone
is older and can't afford it, and they can do
a replacement of a board, why don't they?

Speaker 11 (01:37:16):
Well they're going to try to quote somebody nine thousand
dollars versus maybe two thousand dollars from repair. There's a
hell of a lot more money in new installation than
there is a repair. And then you got to track
down the park.

Speaker 9 (01:37:30):
Now, the puts on older furnaces are a little.

Speaker 11 (01:37:33):
More tricky to find. You just got to do a
little investigating on it. But no, they were just trying
to sell her a new piece of equipment. But parts
are I think parts. I've got a boiler in my
house is installed in nineteen sixty three, and I could
still get parts for it. You know, these new technically tecticians,
they just don't want to They just want to go

(01:37:53):
in and sell.

Speaker 1 (01:37:55):
Now, was this a boiler or furnace?

Speaker 11 (01:37:58):
It's an eighty percent train X the eighty eighty percent
two stage furnace. Okay, okay, efficiency, So back to the
story train donated the motor. I mean the wholesale costs
on the motor was thirteen that was like below my cost.

(01:38:20):
So they ordered it about a week and a half
ago and the shipper lost the.

Speaker 9 (01:38:26):
Motor, so.

Speaker 11 (01:38:29):
I had to tell ARLINGE we had to wait another
week or so. So the train supply actually next day
air the motor the other day before it now went
into the shop.

Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
Yes, you you had you found the train did this
gratus as far as installation, is that right?

Speaker 11 (01:38:50):
Well, what happened. The train manufacturer supplied the motor, and
then Nate suggested that one of their train d HVAC
contractors installed the motor because the motor had to be programmed.
It's like these new cars that had to be programmed
to the furnace. So they did the programming, and then

(01:39:12):
they contracted with J and J Hvac company, one of
their best good dealers. He came out after the show.
I delivered the motor. Jerry from J Andjhvac met me
out there and they did the motor installation and she
had keeped by five thirty yesterday afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
So it was a how much how much was the part?

Speaker 11 (01:39:40):
By the way, Well, a contractor would have probably charged
her at least twenty two hundred dollars for this motor.

Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
Okay, not an installation would have been included in that.

Speaker 11 (01:39:54):
No installation, I would say, be about three thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
Dollar. Wait wait wait, okay for the whole job. Three grand,
But that's still a lot cheaper. That's still a lot
cheaper than nine or ten. Yes, how much did it
end up costing her? Do you want to do?

Speaker 11 (01:40:18):
You really want to know what it cost her?

Speaker 1 (01:40:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:40:22):
Yeah, zero, nothing, it was all it didn't cost her,
that is I mean, she's so nice Social.

Speaker 11 (01:40:33):
Security, so I donated my time, I just did the diagnosis,
Train donated the murder in the three hundred dollars next
day air Bill and Jane j HVAC donated their labor.
So it didn't cost her.

Speaker 4 (01:40:46):
She just had to wait.

Speaker 11 (01:40:48):
But she's got a furnace that's going to last a
long time, and it didn't cost her family anything. And
she wants to call in to the show on Monday
and thank you guys personally.

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
Well that would be good that bo thank you. You know,
we didn't know there was much hope here when you
took the case on, but The reason I know we
talked about it before, the reason I wanted you on
now is because it actually it actually happened. I mean
it has been installed and it's working.

Speaker 11 (01:41:16):
Yes, I got a pitch.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
Okay, it's running.

Speaker 11 (01:41:21):
Thank you, Okay, see you Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:41:25):
No, I really do appreciate it. We got more coming
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(01:42:52):
five five. So let's just finish up this hour with
some uh and by the way, you can call it
anytime with problems, questions, replays that don't have to be caring.
But let's finish up with some questions either stump us
about legal concepts or the mechanic Go ahead, either one
pick whatever you want.

Speaker 6 (01:43:08):
Okay, Tom, thank you. I have a question for Kevin
from sharedon Auto Tech.

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
Kevin.

Speaker 6 (01:43:12):
A few years ago, Colorado made kind of a controversial
change by switching to a slightly different de icing agent.
It used to be magnesium chloride and now it's magnesium
chlorid and something else. And the reason it was controversial,
and my view still is it is much more corrosive
than magnesium chloride by itself is so I'm wondering. Not

(01:43:33):
that it's been a few years, and by the way,
it's not as corrosive as actual salt that they use
in the Midwest, so it's not a total disaster for us.
But now that it's been a few years, have you
observed a higher incidence of higher rate of either it's
just surface rust or rust through or anything else that
you see under the vehicles?

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
Is it something for us to worry about?

Speaker 5 (01:43:55):
I have not, No, But they don't use a lot
of the chemicals here in the mountains, so I think maybe,
you know, mountain based communities may be seeing more of it.
I know, offices and different things. It's ruining carpeting and
stuff like that. I know, but cars, no, I haven't
really seen much.

Speaker 6 (01:44:12):
So, you know, one of the one of the ways
to combat corrosion underneath is a very successful product that's
very popular in the Rust belt. It's called fluid film.
Are you familiar with that stuff? I can't find anybody
here who applies rust inhibitors.

Speaker 1 (01:44:26):
What is that? What is that?

Speaker 6 (01:44:28):
It's you know, it's like a clear liquid that they
spray on all over the undercarriage of the vehicle, and
it's it's about an annual treatment. But it apparently I
mean it from what I've seen of it and the
reviews I've read and watched on the YouTube, it's it's
pretty effective at keeping cars from rusting away in places

(01:44:48):
like New York, Chicago, Nebraska.

Speaker 8 (01:44:50):
Yeah, the Midwest is the cars we see a lot
are just rotting in pieces there. It's terrible here.

Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
You don't think I need to worry about the.

Speaker 8 (01:44:59):
Car wash, you know, keep it clean.

Speaker 6 (01:45:01):
Yep, Okay, thank you, Okay, I can hear the music.
I'll save the rest of my questions for ly.

Speaker 1 (01:45:08):
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have another hour to go on the Troubleshooter Show, and
we got a lot to talk about as far as
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talking evs. I have a lot of texts I have
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two seven eight four six six. First we go to
Ken Ken, what's going on?

Speaker 15 (01:46:46):
I just had a couple of comments about the eating thing,
you know, I think, yeah, these companies, they they shouldn't
make things as obsolete as quick as they do. And
that price now motor that had to have been like
full retail.

Speaker 1 (01:47:03):
I mean, it was.

Speaker 15 (01:47:04):
Nice that the company came up with one and ship
that that really was cool. But it's like, you know,
you go to Granger and it's you know, not necessarily
a proprietary motor. You get a third horse power motor
for whatever, one hundred and fifty bucks.

Speaker 7 (01:47:21):
But it was nice.

Speaker 15 (01:47:23):
In these contractors, that was cool.

Speaker 1 (01:47:27):
So if you will, you know what it was. But
but hold on, are you telling me, though, that you
can take a blower motor from a generic lower motor
and substitute it. Don't you have to have the bolt
patterns and all that.

Speaker 15 (01:47:42):
Oh, you're right about that, but they shouldn't be so proprietary.

Speaker 1 (01:47:46):
It's like, no, you're right, and they shouldn't be that expensive.
In other words, what you're saying is, if you can
buy an electric motor for one hundred and fifty bucks,
why is it twenty two hundred? Gentlemen?

Speaker 6 (01:47:56):
I think that the issue that the detail we're for
getting in this conversation is this particular motor that Bo
got for the elderly lady has sixteen wires.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
Well on an eighty percent wait wait wait, why that's
what I don't understand and eighty percent efficient old fashioned system?
What the hell are sixteen wires.

Speaker 6 (01:48:19):
Well, there's more to it than just the motor. It
sounds like an actual assembly. That's it does have some
computer component that needs to be programmed to the furnace. Okay,
it's got There's a lot more to it than just
the regular just the plane motor.

Speaker 15 (01:48:33):
Well, you know, I had a boiler at my house
a few years ago. I went down to a company
in Denver Is called Johnston or something.

Speaker 9 (01:48:42):
I bought a piler.

Speaker 15 (01:48:43):
The only thing was like three grand, and I put
it in and it's holding up.

Speaker 1 (01:48:48):
Fine, and well, Kennis Hard A lot of people don't
have the skills to do that or to troubleshoot. Oh agree,
Everything really comes everything really comes down to time. I
one time had a I traced U. I had an
issue with an item, and to replace the item would
have been eight grand. To replace the circuit board that

(01:49:11):
I traced it to would have been two thousand. I
looked at the circuit board and I found on on
board relay. Now, no one works on circuit boards, no
one does. But I found this on board. I traced
the signal it stopped at that on board relay. I
then looked at the onboard relay literally under a magnification

(01:49:35):
and saw it was Johnson Controls. They have an office
right here, and it wasn't Centennial. I asked them that
they had those. They said, yeah, you know, what's your
account number? And how many do you want? Because they
they're they're they're a giant manufacturer or whatever they are.
And I said, I want one. It's a tiny, tiny

(01:49:58):
little and he so, sir, we don't sell retail. He says, listen,
why don't you just come down and talk to me.
So I went down there and he handed me one,
a little like a little tiny chippies it here. That
saved me two grand I put that sucker in. I
sawder that in there. But no one does that anymore.
No one has the time to do it. You gotta

(01:50:19):
go take the component, then take the circuit board, then
trace the signal of the circuit board. And it all
comes down to nobody is skilled enough, nor will they
take the time to do it. And the labor I mean,
everything is R and R right now. You remove and replace.
That's what you do.

Speaker 15 (01:50:36):
But you know, here's my thing, like my old boiler.
Before I replaced it, I could get some parts for
it pretty easy. Put them in myself pretty cheap. My
argument is just everything and I've done R and D,
I've done circuitry development and tracking and repair, but something

(01:50:58):
have to be so complicated.

Speaker 1 (01:51:01):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:51:02):
I ran into the same dilemma the other day. Of course,
it wasn't my idea to get this ford, but then
when you own it, it's it's like a bad marriage.
And the window, the windows weren't going down, and there's
a little heater actuator. And I looked all over town

(01:51:22):
and all these guys wanted eight hundred bucks to do it.
I found some guys. I went through a whole winter
without a heater, but they took care of that vent
thing for and the window for four hundred, So yeah,
it can be time.

Speaker 9 (01:51:37):
I was otherwise occupied.

Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
Yeah, and no one like there. There are no repair
people anymore, and they're all dying off.

Speaker 15 (01:51:46):
And you know the difference is, I've got this other
old pick up. You know, it's just a hand crank
and it's like a twelve dollars cable. If the heaters
messed up and a lot of car guys would go,
you know, that's a bygone here. And I'm thinking, well,
you know, it's consumers. You know, did a little bit,

(01:52:06):
more like, I'm not paying that for the car because
it's going to need so much work. Let it sit
up a lot. I'll get old best to go. So
consumers unfortunately tend to go, especially more women.

Speaker 9 (01:52:19):
Oh it looks nice.

Speaker 15 (01:52:20):
You know, my friends will like it. Okay, it's eight
hundred a month, plus another one hundred and fifty for
taxes and repairs and insurance.

Speaker 1 (01:52:32):
By the way, over the years, just so you know,
over the years, more men have been ripped off with
used cars than women, for me, for.

Speaker 15 (01:52:42):
Us, probably, yeah, I mean I believe.

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
Because I've been ripped off, they pulled the trigger way faster.
Women are way more skeptic. I think they ripped off women,
and my women ripped off.

Speaker 8 (01:52:54):
I asked more questions though.

Speaker 9 (01:52:56):
Well you know back now now, Kevin, go ahead, Kevin.

Speaker 1 (01:53:00):
Yeah, what do I want to do?

Speaker 15 (01:53:03):
Is uh this guy Jay and Jay or whatever. I'll
sit him a hundred bucks for doing the right thing.

Speaker 1 (01:53:09):
By that lady. It's nice. I mean, I'm not well,
I don't have it, but I'm sure Bow will get
it to you and Kachina get his number. Three h
three seven one three talk what a nice guy? Three
oh three seven, one three and two five five. I
think it would be better spending if you sent it
to her, the old lady. So I have some text
here relating to everything we've been talking about today. Let

(01:53:33):
me just go to him. Okay, one here, you help
me when I was in Naiwat and uh Okay. The
problem with electric cars nowadays is that they can't make
it without subsidies, so they're not really viable. And I
don't know that's true or not, but that's what they're saying.
The next one here is this, how do you stop

(01:53:53):
vapor lock?

Speaker 2 (01:53:55):
Or?

Speaker 1 (01:53:55):
First of all, no, here's what they ask. What's the
main cause of vapor lock?

Speaker 8 (01:54:01):
Just the pump can't pump vapor. It has to be liquid,
so it locks up.

Speaker 1 (01:54:06):
Well, how does it get to be that way?

Speaker 2 (01:54:07):
Heat?

Speaker 8 (01:54:07):
Is the main the only thing that causes this? Heat?

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:54:10):
And is it heat just heat? Or is it the
routing of the fuel lines.

Speaker 5 (01:54:15):
Well, the routing of the fuel lines by a heat
source and the quality of fuel combined you get a
vapor that can But.

Speaker 1 (01:54:20):
What I want to know is this, though, if you
do have a vapor locked problem then and it's routed,
why not re route the line.

Speaker 8 (01:54:26):
That's part of the repair. Yeah, also to cover the lock.

Speaker 2 (01:54:31):
Did they not know that?

Speaker 1 (01:54:32):
Did they not know that when they built the car?
Or they just take a chance.

Speaker 5 (01:54:36):
I think it's a fuel quality issue as well, so
more alcohol and the fuel causes the vapor lock to
be more of a problem. But no, it's it's definitely
some manufacturers just don't know better.

Speaker 1 (01:54:47):
Someone wants to know. Would be pouring ice cold water
over a line? Make it okay? Clear it? Sure, the
vapor until it warms up again. Yeah, okay, so we
get your pa rough spot. Sure, but then you have
to know where to pour it too. You have to
know where it's vaporing exactly. Now I mentioned the movie

(01:55:09):
Ford versus Ferrari. Somebody wants me to know that there's
an actual It was Carol Shelby who race that car.
And there's a a I didn't know this. There's a
Shelby American Museum. Do you know where it is? I
think it's the Bolder b Older, Oh it isn't. It's

(01:55:30):
only open on Saturdays. Can you believe that? But you
can actually see the Cobra and GT. Forty. That's pretty cool.
I did not realize that. And why would a museum
only be open on Saturday, I guess because they can. Okay,
my emission light would come on, I would tighten the
gas cat. About twenty miles later it come on again.

(01:55:53):
I install the new OEM gas cap, but the light
keeps coming on and off.

Speaker 8 (01:55:58):
Why something other than the gas cap?

Speaker 1 (01:56:03):
Well, yeah, but what would it be? But why did
the gas cap seem to help?

Speaker 5 (01:56:08):
I don't know there than yeah, I don't know. The
dinner didn't but it if it's related to an evap.

Speaker 1 (01:56:13):
Can that vent line being clogged? Can that vent line
being clogged in the fuel system cause that flogged or
a hole in the line or a selenoid stape? By
the way, those who want to know what that vent
line is, it's in the filler neck of the car
and events to the down underneath outside.

Speaker 5 (01:56:30):
Right, Well, nothing vents outside anymore, that's the thing. It's
a sealed system. Where does e vent events back to
the fuel tank, So it'll go through the charcoal canister
and back to the tank.

Speaker 1 (01:56:42):
And the number one way it gets clogged is people overfuel.

Speaker 8 (01:56:45):
Or over that's a big problem.

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
Fill their car, yes, so you overfill your car and
what happens is that eventually gets debris in it and
it clogs, and that can cause an engine light.

Speaker 5 (01:56:57):
It can cause contamination in that charcoal canister. That causes
all kinds of problems.

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
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(01:57:53):
Let's talk to Sean. Sean, what's going on with you?

Speaker 9 (01:57:57):
I've got a two thousand and three Chevy savorados So
and it has a tick on startup. It sounds like
a lifter, but as soon as it warms up, the
tick goes completely away, and it's only at idle. I've
never seen anything like that before.

Speaker 1 (01:58:12):
Now, wait, it's only at idle, You mean when it ticks,
when when.

Speaker 9 (01:58:17):
You first started it's idling seven hundred and fifty rpm,
you'll hear it tick tick tick tick tick. You bring
it up to a thy twelve hundred goes away smooth,
runs up to three four thousand RPMs, come back down
to an idol smooth.

Speaker 1 (01:58:32):
Okay, So it's only when you first started on an idol.

Speaker 9 (01:58:36):
Yeah, yeah, it's like the first five minutes, six minutes
at idle.

Speaker 1 (01:58:40):
Yeah, what if you started it up pick up to Okay, no,
go ahead to ask you a question. Okay.

Speaker 9 (01:58:50):
So there's an O ring on the pickup too, for
the oil pump. I've heard that O ring can be
collapsed or break or deform, and so I er rates
the oil through the oil pump, causing the lifter to
basically bleed out.

Speaker 5 (01:59:03):
Yeah, but it wouldn't be that, Kevin, It wouldn't come
back that quickly if that was, if that was leaking,
you wouldn't have that wouldn't steal itself up. Uh, you know,
you could just have a weak lifter slightly out of adjustment,
you know, possibly worn a little bit warm push rod
or anything, like that.

Speaker 8 (01:59:20):
Have you have you looked at it? What's it?

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
How do you adjust lifters?

Speaker 9 (01:59:25):
I'm kind of thinking that myself. That's non adjustable.

Speaker 8 (01:59:28):
Those are non adjustable.

Speaker 5 (01:59:30):
But the push rod itself could be a little worn out,
so it's got a little bit of slop in it.
So you need to expect the rocker arms, push rods,
all that because it could be taking up that slack.

Speaker 1 (01:59:39):
How many miles? How many miles on it?

Speaker 2 (01:59:41):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (01:59:41):
One hundred and seventy?

Speaker 8 (01:59:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:59:43):
Yeah, sure, Oh okay, it could be a push rod now.

Speaker 5 (01:59:49):
Will like a lifter though, if you've got a slight
exhaust leak as it warms up, it'll see it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:59:56):
What about you can not suffer start? It's right back, Kevin?

Speaker 6 (02:00:00):
What about a failing fuel injector? Don't they sometimes make
a tick tick tick tick sound like a lifter somewhat.

Speaker 8 (02:00:06):
But that's a throttle body injection on his You have
separate injectors. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (02:00:11):
I have a very obvious question. What if you start Sean,
What if you started it up and just took off
right away? Would you hear it? Now?

Speaker 9 (02:00:20):
Because you don't be idling, It's only at idle once
it gets above a thousand kicks.

Speaker 1 (02:00:24):
It's only at idle at first. It's only at idle
when it's cool, that's it.

Speaker 9 (02:00:30):
Or or on first startup that's set fifteen minutes drive
to the store coming back. But I've set the teen
inspired up that's there.

Speaker 1 (02:00:37):
That is so odd. I think it's just a sticky one.
It's it's sticky.

Speaker 8 (02:00:41):
What I would do is throw it.

Speaker 11 (02:00:42):
Couldn't it be G?

Speaker 1 (02:00:43):
Couldn't it be g a BG cleaner? Fix that?

Speaker 8 (02:00:46):
I was just going there. I'd throw a can of
m Away in there, let it run for for a
week or so to see if it doesn't help.

Speaker 1 (02:00:53):
I'll bet you that clears it up, because it's not
bad enough to be consistent.

Speaker 9 (02:00:57):
Yep, No, I remember I've seen a lifter fell.

Speaker 1 (02:01:00):
It fails.

Speaker 9 (02:01:01):
It takes no matter what, continuously right.

Speaker 1 (02:01:04):
That's right. And sticky ones only do it. Yeah, they
only do it when they're sticking. So I think what
Kevin said, what is that called BG? What is it
called Kevin Motor Oil Additive? And the the initials on
the bottle m A.

Speaker 2 (02:01:21):
Or can?

Speaker 8 (02:01:22):
I should Yep, I tried it.

Speaker 1 (02:01:24):
It works.

Speaker 9 (02:01:25):
How about put a little b ATF in there.

Speaker 8 (02:01:27):
It's the same cave concept, but I I don't. I
like the MOA better. It's a little better lubricit and
everything else.

Speaker 1 (02:01:33):
God, everyone, you know what, I've never talked not one,
not one time have I talked to it or a
mechanic that did not love BEG products. I've never talked
to one ever. Yeah, thanks for calling. We got more
coming up. Well, let me let me actually go to
some of these sex like like heat and fuel pressure

(02:01:54):
causes vapor lock. Okay, sorry that because and that's what
we talked about, uh, lack of fuel pressure, I would say, right,
just wondering what happened to the guy that was ripped
off a Mercedes deal by a Mercedes dealer in Colorado Springs.
You had him on with an attorney, Reina, and she

(02:02:15):
was supposed to help. By the way, that I think
she still has that case. She should take it. So Actually,
I have a feeling, because we've asked about it time
and time again, I have a feeling they signed an NDA,
a non disclosure agreement because I think she handled it.
I mean, I'm just thinking that because what I'm hearing

(02:02:36):
is nothing from him, and she was not really willing
to talk about it, right, Kelly, we asked about it
a long time ago, did anyway?

Speaker 9 (02:02:45):
Yeah, we did.

Speaker 1 (02:02:47):
Okay, And here's another one. Do you have a follow
up on the family. Susan was trying to help get
birth certificates. What happened was the parents never got birth
certificates on their kids. They went through their whole life
to skate in the system, and then finally it was
catching up to him. I don't actually know. I got
to ask Susan about that. I really don't know, Tom.
I know a little bit about it.

Speaker 6 (02:03:08):
Susan and I discussed it about three weeks ago.

Speaker 1 (02:03:11):
Oh really okay? Yeah, and nothing.

Speaker 6 (02:03:14):
I mean she even said that there are two attorneys
that were helping with this matter. But apparently those three
texts I think they're in Texas, those three people still
haven't been able to get any birth thy coudness.

Speaker 1 (02:03:28):
Okay, Tom, I reached out to discount Bath on your
referral list, and they want to have thirty They want
thirty percent up to upfront. I know you always preach
no money upfront, but is there an exception for referralest members.
Now this is a touchy subject. No, there's not an
exception for referraless numbers. People. Now, I don't require that

(02:03:51):
they do that as part of the referral list. I
don't say to be on the referral list, she can't
take money up front, but I do outline how money
should be taken upfront if you're on the referral which
means you can do it in s grow, you can
do it with a credit card, which is contestable, or
you can do it in some other form like when
materials are delivered or work begins, including planning. But really

(02:04:14):
and truly, no matter what, I don't care who you are.
If you put money down, you're at risk. It's not
because the company's bad. It's because you're at risk. Anything
can happen to anyone, So it's always better not to
put money down. That doesn't mean every time you put
money down you'll be ripped off. But I know this

(02:04:37):
for absolutely positively sure that it's almost impossible to get
ripped off if you don't put money down. Now, when
I say almost impossible, what do I mean? Well, you
could get ripped off in this way. They start work,
they tear your house up, they're incompetent and stupid. They
didn't take any money, but they leave. Well, you kind

(02:04:59):
of got ripped off, right. So again, I don't think
you have a problem with discount Bath. I don't think
you have a problem with anyone on the refer list.
But you could. I mean, you know, so you have
to play it by ear. You can say, well, well, Chris,
thirty percent sounds hefty. Can I pay for materials when
they're delivered? Can I pay for plans? Can I play
for work beginning? Can I pay in stages to me?

(02:05:23):
You know, you negotiate again, It's gonna have to be
a decision you make. Now, are they a cut above
regular businesses? Yes? Is it guaranteed? Nothing is? I mean
they could be hit by a bus. So if you
do make money down, like for custom orders, for example,
Chris may say, well, we custom order stuff if they

(02:05:44):
if they custom order, you can make You can put
money down with the factory and just make sure the
job is in your name, because plenty of times when
people put money down. The big problem comes when stuff
is ordered like windows or doors or counters or whatever
they're ordered for the house, and something does happen to
the company or to the person. You go to the

(02:06:05):
factory and they say, we don't know this is yours.
We don't know you paid for this, so you have
your address tagged with it and your name, and if
you want to pay for advance, of course you can
pay for windows that are being custom made for yourself.
Of course you can, but you know that they're yours.
So if something happens with the company, those windows will

(02:06:25):
be delivered to you if you pay the balance.

Speaker 12 (02:06:28):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:06:28):
So those are the kinds of things I say, protect yourself,
no matter who you are. Jay says he has a
comment on that fuel deal. Do you mean the ticking
sound or do you mean vapor lock? Go ahead, Jay, The.

Speaker 14 (02:06:44):
Ticking sound normally is something that's under pressure that needs
hydraulic pressure, fleets off a little bit like a list
might lead off a little or the cam they have
a little hydraulics pull pushes it when you speed up.
It adjusted for cam timing. So if you can kind

(02:07:04):
of isolate where it's, it's it's probably one of those
two and it'll never get better. It's pretty a lot worse.
But when you're an idol, you have very low oil
pressure compared to when you're really cranking it up, so
just kind of pumps it back up, shut it off.
Its pressure leads back off any good mechanic shop. I'm
sure Kevin can trying to figure that one out.

Speaker 1 (02:07:26):
Two, how do you replace that? Is it the lifter
you're replacing?

Speaker 14 (02:07:33):
Yeah, you put a set of lifters in Never do
one lifter, but yeah, generally you just put a set
of lifters in it.

Speaker 8 (02:07:40):
Exactly.

Speaker 9 (02:07:40):
You can put new lifters on an old cam, not
vice versa.

Speaker 2 (02:07:46):
Oh fine, all.

Speaker 1 (02:07:49):
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three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hello Tom Martina here,

(02:08:36):
three oh three seven one three talk seven one three
eight two five five. Okay, So, uh, we've been talking
about various things, and I was going through my texts
let me get to this last one here. Oh, I'm
all through them. Okay, So now we've been also doing

(02:08:56):
stuff in the mechanic. If you want to play that game,
you can call and try to stump us and I'll
even have a prize for you.

Speaker 8 (02:09:04):
With EVS, you know how important marks, you know, get
home button is and everything. How important is that to you?
Self driving?

Speaker 1 (02:09:12):
Now, what do you mean about that? Oh, the self drive?

Speaker 8 (02:09:14):
Self driving?

Speaker 1 (02:09:15):
It's not important. It's more of a cool thing for me.

Speaker 5 (02:09:19):
So now I think once that improves, I think EV
has become more viable because you can open up a
whole okaynder market of people. You know, say you're you know,
you go to a restaurant, have a few drinks. You know,
maybe your driving skills are diminishing, or you know, you
still have independence, but you don't have to drive the car.

Speaker 1 (02:09:43):
What as far as self driving, I mean when he
says it's the best self driving ever, what is I've
not experienced it? I mean, does it literally take you
from point to point and stop in between? See, I
don't I've never experienced that.

Speaker 8 (02:09:59):
That's what he He says. He can push the go
home button from the parking lot here, and the car
does it just turns and goes away. It needs to
go stops at lights, stops for traffic, changes lanes, to
maintain speed, all kinds of stuff, and.

Speaker 1 (02:10:13):
It doesn't require See, my Beamer doesn't have any the
thing near like that, but it does have My Beamer
does have self driving, but you know, not anything like that.
But I can't take my hands off though. Does Tesla
allow you to take your hands off?

Speaker 5 (02:10:29):
I don't know if it's hands off or it has
to see you. There is some limitation, yes, yeah, it's
not you can't sit in the back seat and have
a you know, drive you.

Speaker 1 (02:10:38):
But he raves about it like like, man, I don't
even have to touch it, you know. He talks about
it being okay. Somebody wants to know if with newer cars,
do you have to worry about uh, deep snow as
far as if snow got up under the engine, what

(02:10:59):
it could do to you or any electronics.

Speaker 5 (02:11:05):
When you go through a director TV or a regular car,
regular car, not so much. I mean a regular car,
the snow melt, it'll get out of there. Yeah, it's
not going to hurt anything. I mean if it's completely
submerged and you know, like in an avalanche or something. Yeah,
you got an issue, but yeah, just a little bit
of snow. No, it's not gonna hurt anything.

Speaker 1 (02:11:23):
Now somebody else wanted to know about or not wanted
to want to express. Tom you asked, is a time
for an EV? Not this time around, hardly ever. I
think it's going to be at least thirty years before
EV's take a foothold. Do you think it'll be that long?
Thirty years?

Speaker 8 (02:11:41):
I think stuff changes so rapidly. I think thirty years
maybe a little too far out there.

Speaker 1 (02:11:47):
Things do change.

Speaker 8 (02:11:49):
The rest ten years. I think there's gonna be a
big shift.

Speaker 1 (02:11:52):
Well, I will tell you this. Every major car manufacturer
now has an electric offering, every one of them, every
one of them. So but at some point they're gonna
have to go all in. Like I talked about the
g Wagon. Okay, that's a very expensive, exaggeration, exaggerated vehicle.
They're stupid expensive for no reason. And when I owned mine,

(02:12:16):
I've had two of them. I've owned them before. They
were before they were like a thing. They weren't a thing.
It started to be a thing after my second one,
when I was into it already. Then it became a thing,
and you could not even order one or buy one
for MSRP. When I was buying them, you you discounted,

(02:12:39):
are just like a regular car. You're going to negotiate.
Not only did they go to MSRP, but they literally
went Do you know, Kevin, at one time it was
one hundred and fifty thousand dollars over MSRP.

Speaker 8 (02:12:52):
I remember you saying that to get a regularly just.

Speaker 1 (02:12:55):
Exited and they were selling. Can you imagine the idiot
who paid one hundred and fifty thousand dollars more than
the invoice? Do you imagine how upside down they were in.

Speaker 8 (02:13:08):
That car constantly You never me never recover from that.

Speaker 1 (02:13:12):
Never and now now, just now, when I was inquiring,
they said, if you order or buysock, doesn't matter. You
will pay fifty thousand dollars over on a fifty thousand
dollars over on an MG and twenty five thousand over on.

Speaker 8 (02:13:31):
A regular and keep it. Yeah, okay, I mean I will.

Speaker 1 (02:13:35):
Never I said, I will never ever ever, even if
I least, I will never ever ever pay over over
manufactured MSRP.

Speaker 2 (02:13:44):
Never.

Speaker 1 (02:13:44):
I mean I don't even like paying MSRP. But how
much they make on an MSRP. I don't know on
that one. I know on some you know, you have
a certain amount you make and then you make on
top of that, you make a dealer holdback at the
end of the year for some manufacturers, So I I

(02:14:07):
wonder how much they make on a what do you think.

Speaker 8 (02:14:14):
It's got to be based on, you know, similar dealerships.
I don't imagine. It's a whole different platform. But yeah,
but that's that's crazy, that kind of a markup. Still, Yeah,
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (02:14:25):
Know, not not just creat it's it's undoable. But yet
there are people every day willing to do it. That's
why they do it.

Speaker 8 (02:14:31):
Why they do it? Yep, because they can.

Speaker 1 (02:14:34):
I mean, okay, yeah, yeah, So I'm asking right now.
I just put it in there how much profit is
built in on an MSRP. And of course they'll never
answer this. They'll never hold on a twenty twenty. Okay,
here's the ms RP on A twenty twenty five. What

(02:14:56):
do you think it is? It's with it without the
bump one the dealer. The dealer buys it. The dealer
buys it for one hundred and forty thousand dollars from
the manufacturer. They the MSRP is one forty eight, two fifty,

(02:15:16):
so they're gonna make eight thousand, two hundred and fifty
bucks on that car if they sold it for that.
They will never sell it for that. So, first of all,
the the MSRP might be one forty eight, you will
never even see that car a twenty twenty five for
less than one seventy five.

Speaker 8 (02:15:37):
Yeah, looking online, one seventy five five one ninety.

Speaker 1 (02:15:43):
That's right, yep. So so that that's how much water
there is in those things, and that's ridiculous. The only
one they're selling an MSRP, in fact, they'll go behind
seventy five hundred is the electric one. And I have
a feeling that's because it's a real gamble to take
a conventional car like that and do nothing about it.

(02:16:06):
You don't make it lighter, you don't make it different,
you don't make it more aerodynamic. You simply slap batteries
under it and motors on the wheels, and you call it.
And by the way, you would think that would give
you room in the front. Absolutely not. There is no
There is no fronk on that thing. There's the same

(02:16:28):
old storage that I don't know what they're doing with
all that space where the engine would be. I don't
know what they're doing with it, but it's completely shrouded,
covered up, and you can't get to it. So you
open the hood, you see nothing but plastic. There's nothing
a service, but you can't see it. So anyway, so
they're making If they sold it an invoice, they'd bink

(02:16:50):
like eighty two hundred bucks now, I mean, so I
asked them, if somebody orders it, what's the harm of
doing it at invoice? What's the harm? You're gonna make
eighty two hundred dollars without ever floor planning it. Not
a dime into it. You know what their reasoning was,
We only get a certain number of allotments, so we

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