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April 6, 2025 1 min

So it looks like the Treaty Principles Act is toast as Christopher Luxon assured us it would be.  

Much was made over the weekend that 90 per cent of the submissions were against it.  

But that means nothing if all the opposing submissions were just photocopies of one. 

Māori are organised. Anyone who’s seen their multiple Hikoi's and the awesome organisation of the Kings Tangi should know that.  

You underestimate Māori at your peril.   

But it must also be noted that Act’s act was a simplistic dog. Much of it is already covered by the bill of rights.  

At its heart it was three sentences designed to overthrow 50 years of legal development. 

But is the movement against the treaty dead.  

No, it is not. New Zealand first wants to have a crack. 

And Winston Peters, being the experienced legislator, wants to amend the existing Treaty Principles legislation we already have.  

He ran his election campaign on it. It's the smart way to achieve real change. 

And as we approach the changeover between Peters and Seymour of the Deputy PM role, Winston will have the time and the energy to have his try. 

So welcome to round two of the Treaty Principles debate. A round that has much more chance to succeed. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So it looks like the Treaty Principles actors toast as
Christopher Luxen assured it it would be. And much was
made over the weekend that ninety percent of the submissions
were against it. But you know that means nothing at
all if all the opposing submissions were just photocopies of one,
which I think a lot of them were. Remember that
Maori are organized. Anyone who's seen their multiple hikoys and

(00:22):
their awesome organization of the King's tongue, he should know
that you underestimate Malory at your own peril. They got
organized and they swamped the Select Committee. But it must
also be noted that the act that that ax Act,
it was a bit of a simplistic dog in my opinion,
much of it already covered by the Bill of Rights.
At its heart, it was three sentences designed to overthrow

(00:44):
fifty years of legal development. But is the movement against
the Treaty Principles dead? And no? It is not New
Zealand first one to have a crack. Winston Peters, being
the experienced legislator that he is, wants to amend all
the existing Treaty Principles legislation that we already have if

(01:05):
you remember, he ran his election campaign on it, and
it is a smart way to achieve real change because
it's already in the law. You just change the thing.
As we approach the changeover between Peters and Seymour of
the Deputy PM role, Winston will have the time and
the energy to have a crack. So welcome to round
two of the Treaty Principle's debate, a round that has

(01:29):
much more chance to succeed. For more from Early edition
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from five am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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