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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The issues, the interviews, sealers and the insight. Andrew Dickens
on the early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture
Beds and Appliant store US Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It'd be it's good morning to welcome to the program.
Six minutes after five. It's a Wednesday ferry day today.
What kind of ferries do the ferrymen want? We'll talk
to the ferrymen. Marin is even just before six o'clock
this morning, and the government's mission reduction plan is out today.
Simon Watts's cockerhoo that we can hit targets quicker than expected.
(00:35):
Is he right? We'll find out from a climate expert.
Freedom for the greyhound, but are the horses next? The
SPCA is minutes away. We've got Gavin Gray from the
UK as the fallout from Syria continues, and we have
correspondence from right around the world. This is early edition.
My name is Andrew Dickens. You can text me on
ninety two ninety two. You can email Dickens at Deuce
Talks hereb dot co dot nze.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
The agenda.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
It's Wednesday, the eleventh of December and Israel has launched
a ground incursion into Syria following the fall of the
Assad regime. Benjamin Natanya, who says he ordered the IDF
to take control of the demilitarized un Bappa zone, which
was established fifty years ago.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
The only interest we have is the security of Israel
and its citizens. That's why we attacked weapons systems like,
for example, remaining of chemical weapons or long range missiles
and rockets, in order that they will not fall in
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the hands of extremists.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Socials or go And they're all watching closely. Three Russian
Navy ships have been seen in satellite infantry anchodoff Syria's coast.
They left one of their Syria based military locations. They've
anchored off there. They're waiting to see as we all are.
California is burning. Evacuations are underway. This fire is eighty
seen one hundred acres wide, and it's burning of Malibu.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
We have a lot of resources coming in from all
around the state helping the firefighters, and our shriff's deputies
have gone door to door making sure everyone is evacuated.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
And the fire is so fast moving that officials say
it tripled in size in just one hour. Staying with America,
Luigi Manngiani the man arrested for the killing of United
Healthcare chief executive Brian Thompson. He has now been charged
with his murder.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
In this case, really came down of technology, was the
use of drones in Central Park, and really comes down
to the video canvas that we did. We used every
source of video that we could collect, hundreds and hundreds
and hundreds of hours from hundreds of sources.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
In fact, investigator has also said he was not on
a list of possible suspects until yesterday. It's a good
police work and apparently he was identified in the McDonald's
because he spent some time flirting with a waitress. Oh,
the best laid plans can fall apart. And in a
Nevada court has ruled the billionaire Rupert Murdoch cannot change
his trust to hand control over to his eldest son
(03:06):
his succession. As Neva said, it's believed the case was
launched after Murdoch worried about his children not agreeing on
how to run his media and by the way, he
would once he died. A lawyer for Rupert says he's
going to appeal. How old is Rupert Murdoch. Well, first
of all, it's Keith Rupert Murdoch. He uses his middle name,
which I didn't know until just now. The man is
(03:27):
ninety three years old.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
The first word on the News of the Day early
edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture
Beds and Appliant Store, You Talk, sid Bey.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
There were some funny old reactions to Kiwibank being allowed
to look for New Zealand money to broaden its capital
base yesterday. You may remember I interviewed a banking academic
yesterday morning and when I asked, is this good? She cackled.
I asked her would it make a difference, and she
actually just snorted and laughed. All the players are too
big and for them, if a billion there's no sweat.
(04:01):
This will not crack them open, she said. During the day,
others pontificated, why bother at all? Again, the big guys
are just too big. But can we just tie hoe
on that surrender monkey talk just for a moment, because
all the big guys started out small. Every business started
out small. If someone tells you not to start because
you're small, well no one would ever be big at all.
(04:22):
And Kiwi Bank is not exactly tiny. In December of
twenty twenty three, the bank's assets totaled about thirty five
billion dollars. They have nine percent of our banking. They
are here, they've been here for a while, they have
a loyal market and they certainly deserve a chance. And
Kiwi Bank has had a rocky ride, probably because of ideology,
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because it was Jim Anderton's idea that heaving great socialists.
He thought we should have a New Zealand bank, a
Kiwi Bank perhaps, and so he made it so center
right governments have never really invested in the idea. But
if you're a bank, at the end of the day,
you are judged not by politicians but by your depositors.
(05:02):
And so far Kiwi Bank is doing okay, but only okay.
The proposer on the table now limits the ownership for
New Zealand owned and operated investment bodies. Okay, So only
New Zealand people can invest in Kiwibank and give them
the half million they need. So it's a partial privatization
with provisos. The bank will stay a Kiwibank. It's not
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an asset sale. Of course, Remember the government promised those
wasn't aren't going to happen, So it's not really an
asset sale because the funds are going to stay in
the business, a business that's been in for twenty one years.
So I think this is actually an elegant move and
well worth ago. Kiwi Bank has been hobbled for its
entire life by politics. It has been under capitalized, and
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yet it still has the support of nearly ten percent
of Kiwis. It's so Kiwi.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
It's a little bank set up for sentimental reasons, that
is battle for its place and it's proudly coming fifth.
There is no harm in giving the bank a bit
of a hand in what is an uneven playing field.
And if it goes tits up, well then close it down.
But for goodness sake, give it a fighting chance that
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you can text me on ninety two ninety two. Hey,
by the way, here it comes. It's becoming real. The
government is formulating the plan to stop delivering to some letterboxes.
MB is floating an idea that five percent of mail
goes to a center and then you come and pick
up the mail yourself, which kind of defeats the whole
purpose of mail. Don't you think the Union is suggesting
they're planning to lay off seven hundred workers of Opponents
say ten percent of New Zealand does not have Internet access,
(06:40):
which is a bad figure, but that means we need
the slow physical mail, the snail mail. So does this
concern you? The end of mail? And while we're on it,
have you sent any Christmas cards? I haven't, are they
are dying breed, So giving your thoughts on the mail
and the Christmas cards. Ninety two ninety two is the
number to phone. And next we're looking into the dogs.
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It is the teen after five.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
On your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with
Andrew Dickens and Smith City New Zealand's Furniture Beds and
Applying Store Youth Talks.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Be It is sixteen after five. Racing Minister Winst and
Peter's announced a ban on greyhound racing yesterday. With the
legislation passed under urgency. The racing dogs will not be
allowed to be euthanized. They will have to be rehomed.
We're joined now by Anya Dale, who's from the SPCA,
the Chief Scientific Officer.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
Hello, Anya, Hello, good morning.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
You're big toughed.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
We're absolutely delighted that Minister Peter's announced yesterday that the
racing industry will be banned in New Zealand by the
first of August twenty twenty six.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
It's amazing, the racing industry said, they were blindsided. But
have you been advocating for this for a while.
Speaker 6 (07:48):
Yes, it has been advocating this for decades because the
sport is inherently dangerous and the injury and death rates
in greyhound racing just make it unsustainable. Just give you
an example. In the last financial year alone on track
there were nine hundred injuries and thirteen deaths. So it
is just the levels are just too high to make
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it acceptable and greyhound racing has lost its social license.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
All right? Was it surprising coming from mister racing himself
Winston Peters?
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Well, no, we've been working with Minister Peters and the
Department of Internal Affairs on this for quite some time
and we know that Minister Peters is very concerned about
the welfare of greyhounds, so we are absolutely thrilled that
he made this very challenging but right decision.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Will you now be moving on to saving the horses.
Speaker 6 (08:41):
Well, now we're going to work with the continue to
work with our Greyhound Rehome and coalition partners and the
Minister and the DIA in terms of working to rehome
all of the three thousand odd greyhounds in the industry,
because it's really important that all of these wonderful greyhounds
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get put into loving family homes, which is exactly what
they deserve.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Indeed, are you avoided the question? But I don't mind.
Let's talk about that rehoming because the dogs are not
allowed to be euthanized, so we have to find places.
Do you think there's going to be a struggle.
Speaker 7 (09:19):
What is it done?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I think it's three thousand dogs, three.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
Thousand approximately, that's correct. And what has been done is
it's great that they now no longer be able to
be killed. It's set by a veterinarian and on legitimate
health and welfare reasons, so that is fantastic. And we
have reformed a rehoming coalition over two years ago and
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have a strategy and an operational plan and the costings
right down to the individual dog, and a very multi
pronged approach in terms of how we're going to rehome
all of these dogs. So we are absolutely certain that
after learning for all our counterparts and other countries where
greyhound racing has also been shut down. We've learned all
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of the good things to do, not not to do,
and how to actually achieve this outcome, so we are
sure that we can work with the industry to achieve
this outcome.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Thank you for your time today, and I wish you
are the best of black and rehousing those dogs. I
know a dog. I know a greyhounds. My brother had one.
Will God rest it soul, funny little dog, big dog,
actually very tall dog, a little bit edgy. It's fair
to say. There's a quote in the paper today from
Dawn Glover, who owns rescue greyhounds. She says the dogs
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are fifty percent elegant, fifty percent weird, and one hundred
percent lazy. And she likened them to the supermodels and
the cats of the dog world. Sounds like, if you
want one, you can get one. It is nineteen after five.
Simon Watts reckons that we're going to hit our mission
reduction target six years earlier than expected. How well, I'll
(10:56):
tell you why and whether he's right. Right after the
break here on New Stalks, Erebeg News and.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Views you trust has done your day. It's early edition
with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture beds
and applying store youth talks.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
It'd be Texas are correcting me, saying say, euthanaize, not euthanized,
and I'm afraid text is you're wrong too. Both words
are correct. Euthanasia is a noun and euthanized as a verb,
so you euthanize something that when you're ah, why we're
all wrong? Both are right. Five twenty two, the government
reckons New Zealand could hit its net zero emissions goal
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of twenty fifty six years earlier than expected, which will
be a surprise to some minister of a climate change
Simon Watt says we could reach net zero as soon
as twenty forty four with his new emissions reduction plan,
which is released this morning. It has eight policy steps
to curb emissions. So I'll run you through, introducing agricultural
emissions pricing by twenty thirty, recognizing carbon capture as part
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of the ETS, increasing the amount of gas captured by landfills,
putting in ten thousand charging units for and more. So
I'm joined now by Victoria University Climate Change adjunct professor,
a man with a long Business Guard again, Doctor Adrian
Macy Hallo. Adrian, you're warning you've had a look at
the plan and work for Simon.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
It's well, of course he looked a lot at twenty
fifty and twenty fifty's you know, that's sort of ten
governments ahead of us. But I think just what struck
me is two things actually. One, this plan has got
a very strong focus on the economy, on the health
of the economy, and a lot of the initiatives are
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really integrated between economy and climate. And secondly, is that focus,
particularly the focus as you've had mentioned on the twenty
fifty goal, that's the really important one. And I think
what they're doing is they're giving a message to the
different sectors business, forestry, agriculture, We're not going to send
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you to the wall. You've got to be see you
as being prosperous as part of the journey. But also
there's these sexral initiatives they look to me, they're all
seem to be quite sensible. The CCS one which you mentioned,
that's carbon capture and storage. A number of us think
that's going to play a big role if countries are
(13:19):
going to meet these net zero targets, so recognizing that
is useful. The EV's one rolling out charging stations.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
It does appear to be tingering around on the edges
on issues that we haven't really talked about. Everyone just
talks about, you know, get it an EV or whatever,
let this get some more windmills. He's talking about improving
organic waste management and landfill gas capture because all these
little things do amount to something quite big.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
Well, what he's done, I think is they've focused, yes,
sector bi sector on things that are quite they look
quite practical. The other thing they've done, which is not
quite so obvious, they've scrapped literally dozens and dozens of
projects that were underway in the different government departments which
look to be or from my view anyway, rather less
focused on this practical stuff. So I think in that
(14:04):
sense it's useful. There are a few questions marks. For example,
it looks if they're going to be very cautious about
changing the free allocation scheme. There's been the big industries
who can get some free allocation of units under the ETS,
more polluting ones, and they're certainly not saying, well, we're
going to scrape all those. So there's a few question
(14:24):
marks for sure good stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Doctor Adrian Matick joins me from Victoria University. So there
we go. It looks like someone once might have done it.
It is our five twenty five. It is News TALKSB
the early edition.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
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Speaker 2 (14:40):
Talks AB News Talks ABB Wednesday. Halfway there, You're almost there,
almost made it. Hey, This job of being a politician,
of being a leader is always harder than you expect.
We learned today that Mark Mitchell will not be introducing
legislation against boy races this year, even though all year
he said he would. In June, when it was all
going off in Levin, he was promising law to enable
(15:00):
the cops to seize the vehicles and to keep them
and to return to the good old days of crushing collins.
Let's crush those cars. But it's never happened, because it
is and I quote Mark Complex, no kidding. But look,
if he's got some time on his hands to come
up with some rules and laws about this sort of thing,
can I suggest he look at hitting the problem of
(15:22):
South Orcan's dirt bike hooligans, who made some headlines over
the weekend. South Orcan's Dirt bike rabble is a classic
gang technique and it needs to be stopped. What happens
is the gangs give out dirt bikes to the kids
and they've been doing this for ages. And these dirt
bikes are cheap and their mobile and their nippy, and
by the way, they're very handy for hit and run crime.
(15:44):
They get young prospects into the bike culture that then
carries on into the adult gangs and they put the
kids on Harley's and Indians, but the dirt bikes is
where they start. And the dirt bikes are swarming and
they distract the police while the more hardened gang crims
carry on with business not wearing the patches because they're
not stupid. These kid gangs, in a way are even
(16:06):
more intimidatory and dangerous than the gang's proper. If you've
ever seen a swarm of dirt bikes in South Auckland,
it's absolutely freakiously scary and horrific. And their kids and
they're all over the place and they're driving the wrong
way up the motorway and they swarm on the on
the streets, on mass and they indulge in street crime
rather than drugs or the fighting and scrapping. Rather than
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just passing away some envelopes full of myth, they are
far more visible to the people on the street. You
are someone in South Auckland, and yet do you hear
anything about the South Auckland dirt bikes other than every
now and then when they burst into the headline. So, Mark,
since you haven't got the boy racist stuff done yet,
how about the dirt bike stuff. It's time for a
good crackdown and a good dose of crushing of these bikes.
(16:52):
And it's time for a politician to start talking about
the growing threat. It's time for a politician to start
doing something about it.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Andrew Dicks.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
So I asked about in zim posts possibly reducing the
amount of mail it delivers. Nobody seems to be worried.
Nobody seems to be concerned. We seem to have moved on.
I asked about Christmas cards. Shirley says she sent out
fifty this year. Cost one hundred and fifteen bucks in stamps.
Had to cut my list down. It's getting too expensive.
She's thirty seven years old. Christmas cards are my favorite tradition.
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Keep doing it, my love. News talks have been.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Andrew Dickens on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's
furniture beds and applying store youth talks. It be.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
As good morning, welcome back to the program. But a
cold play for you. By the way, if you've got
some time in your hands today, look up coldplay and
Dick van Dyke. Stick that into YouTube and look at
the seven minute video that's been done by Spike Jones.
It's magnificent. It'll make you cry. Dick Van Dyke ninety
nine years old. What a hero. Chris Martin, what a hero.
Speaker 8 (18:11):
So there we go.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Now Text three, Andrew, where are you on Ducksun's racing?
My textas says, ducks on racing is slower the greyhounds,
to be sure, but it's just as exciting and there's
less high speed crashes and it's better for the dogs.
Thank you for your sense of human and that's good.
By the way, our terrorist threat level remains at low.
(18:34):
That's good news, but don't sleep peacefully because low still
means a terrorist attack is still a realistic possibility. The
watchdogs stress that we live in a deteriorating global security environment.
No kidding, Sherlock. I've noticed Meanwhile, who knows what may
happen in Syria. Look at what Israel's doing, Look what
russ is doing. There's a vacuum there. We don't know
who will fill it. What we do know is that
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Asad is an exile, still alive, and his wife finally
losing her privilege. Her name is Asthma Assad's. Asthma was
originally called Emma, and she was British born, and she
was British educated, and she was bright, and she was bubbly,
and she went to Marylebone School for Gelds and she
could have been a success in so many fields. But
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she met this boy at university and then sold her
soul to the devil for some pretty clothes and a
life of opulence. She married Asad. Clive James, the late
Great Ossie intellect and poet, once wrote a poem about
her and used the image of her unwrapping her silks
and cash beer while Syrians dangled with cracking wrists, screaming screams.
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She never heard. It was a good little poem. As
Assad butchered her people, she said absolutely nothing. So frankly,
I think a lot of people think she can just
go rotten hell twenty two to six. Callum Proctor morning,
Welcome to the program and tell me about your stadiums well.
Speaker 9 (20:00):
Daneedon Venues yesterday much to celebrate with yesterday's announcement the
all Blacks only South Island game next year will be
played at Forsyth Bass Stadium in July. The South Island
exclusive will take place nine months out from the opening
of christ Church's newcovered stadium to Kaha Stadium. But so
that new competition on the scene isn't bothering our new
(20:21):
Daneedan Venues Chief executive Paul Dawn. He says that they
have to focus on themselves for now and work to
make the test as good as possible at Forsyth Bars
Stadium so weensid Rugby have a reason to choose them
again in the future.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
It's a great venue. I've been to a game there.
I went there during the Lions tour and we won.
The Highland has won anyway. How's your weather?
Speaker 9 (20:42):
But a rain developing later this morning, clearing this evening
though the high twenty one.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Thank you. Jamian Cunningham joins me now from Chrashiachtaylor. Jamie
and apparently bus bears are on the way up. Yeah,
good morning.
Speaker 10 (20:53):
Environment Canterbury is voting on a proposal to increase bus
fears today, which includes the possibility of three dollar adult fears.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
Now.
Speaker 10 (21:01):
This follows mzta's request for a revenue increase, which lead
to concerns about arise from two dollar fares to eight dollars.
Counselor Joe Davies says they don't believe the agency or
the government's time frame expectations are realistic, but are opened
to discussing increasing revenue. He says fears need to be
lifted a little to indicate willingness to the government and
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while it's not ideal, now is the time for the conversation.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Absolutely. How's hell weather?
Speaker 10 (21:28):
It's fine again here with high cloud increasing this afternoon,
nor westeries into high of twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Thank you so much to Wellington. We go and Max
told joins us Hello, Max, good morning. We all know
that Wellington suffering with public servants being laid off left,
right and center. But now some public servants have been
told by their boss how to retire and move to Australia.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
Yeah, that's right, a good story by Azariah Howld in
our newsroom. The job cuts still happening in the public
sector that's not finished. It won't be next year either.
This is about the Environmental Science and Research Agency, probably
more commonly known as ESR, which is cutting about forty rolls,
which represents about seven per cent of its workforce. It's
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we have seen its final decisions document and in its
officials Yeah, provide advice to staff on what their next
steps may be, including perhaps oddly moving to Australia. There's
an offer to review CVS cover letters, help departing stuff,
prepare for other interviews, advice on optimizing their LinkedIn profiles,
and also advice on retirement, semi retirement or otherwise. And
(22:31):
in typically a bureaucratic language, it's not called retirement but
transitioning to your next work life balance adventure. People are
still finding out if they're safe or not now and
in the run up to Christmas.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
And the interim CEO that's Sir Eshley Bloomfield, isn't it exactly?
Speaker 8 (22:48):
He wouldn't be interviewed for this story.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
No kidding. He sounds embarrassed. What's your weather like?
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Should be fine? Fresh Northerlys nineteen The High Central and why.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Can We go? Nei A written man Keeppie weinsda. Yes,
you're my last weekday for the week. Oh no, stop
it so happy show us a here to Christmas Eve,
because why that's called business. This is called business. We
keep the wheels turning. Speaking of wheels turning, more problems
in retail Sephora this time.
Speaker 11 (23:16):
Yes, now, Sophora's losses have climbed at twenty five million dollars.
This is since incorporating year about six years ago. Business
Desk is reporting that Sephora in Z has reported a
three point nine million dollar net loss after text. This
is for the past calendar year. Now, this deficit is
sixty three percent less than its ten point six million
dollar loss the year before. Now you'll remember, do you
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remember this, Andrew? That in June Sephora in ZED announced
the closure of its Queen Street store, and that had
opened with lots of fanfare back in July twenty nineteen.
It still has two stores, one a new market and
the other one in Sylvia Park.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
It's very good, but it's a hard market.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Beauty Masmetics Mecca is there first.
Speaker 11 (23:57):
That's pretty popular too.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Absolutely absolutely. How's that weather cloud?
Speaker 11 (24:01):
Increasing? Few showers developing this evening twenty four is the
high today in auclud.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Gavin Gray from the UK after the break, and we're
going to talk about Syria and what the UK's doing.
Did you know that between twenty eleven and twenty twenty one,
thirty thousand Syrians granted asylum in the UK, So there's
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Speaker 1 (25:21):
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Speaker 2 (25:29):
Devin Gray from the UK joins us hell A Gavin
either Andrew. Awful lot of Syrians, awful lot of Syrians
in the UK. So where is the UK standing on
the Syrian issue right now?
Speaker 12 (25:39):
Well, they have decided to pause decisions on further Syrian
asylum claims after basher alisade was overthrown. The government's saying
the situation is moving fast. Some people are returning to
Syria following recent developments, But there's another theory. With so
many refugees out of Syria. Some may actually think no,
actually that I'm gonna you don't try and make the
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journey anyway, So there's almost fear, as it were, of
a second wave. Between twenty eleven and twenty twenty one,
more than thirty thousand Syrians were granted asylum in the UK.
There was a big program to allow them in. However,
more than nine thousand Syrians have also been picked up
on the coast, entering the country illegally, having crossed the
channel in small boats. Indeed, Syrians accounted for the fifth
(26:23):
largest number of silent claims in the year ending of
September this year, and almost all those who requested asylum
have been given the right to stay. So the big
question is now, with this pausing, what will happen after that?
And will some of those some thirty forty thousand still
estimated to be in the UK, will they stay or
will they actually decide to go back to Syria.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
And so that explains why you see just incredible pictures
out a Trafagar Square of celebrations after what happened. But yes,
the big question for the world what will happen next? Meanwhile,
speaking of migrants, what's happening in Germany.
Speaker 12 (26:56):
Well, I believe it or not, Facilitating people smiling is
not technically illegal in Germany currently if that country that
their third country is outside the EU, and of course,
following Brexit that means the UK. So it is thought
that actually Germany has inadvertently become a central hub to
the people smuggling networks, using Germany as sort of warehousing
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for boats and then getting the boats to the French
shores northern France in order to get across to the UK.
But Germany has finally agreed to tighten its law to
make it much easier to prosecute those helping to smuggle
migrants to the UK. A new plan has green agreed
by the two countries. In the past. Our new Prime
Minister as of July Sekirstarmers said that many of the
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previous plans by the previous governments simply weren't workable. He
said he was going to go after the people smugglers,
try to get cooperation from the rest in Europe and
perhaps this is a sign that this may help. However,
once you cut off one tentacle of these networks have
seemed that at least another one or two seem to grow.
So I'm not quite sure to fake this will out,
but so far Andrew more than thirty three thousand across
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the English Channel by small boats into the UK illegally.
That's considerably higher than the twenty nine thousand from all
of last year.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Good stuff. Gavin Gray from the UK. And it is
now eleven minutes after six. So this is news talk set.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
B Andrew Diggins Countries.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
How have you caught up with this? Country? Singer Randy
Travis has a new song out which is incredible because
he lost the ability to sing in twenty thirteen after
in the fatal stroke. He can't sing, and yet he's
got a brand new single out. How he recreated his
voice using AI. Now this is a good thing because
his voice is his voice and if the single sells,
he'll get the money. So he may have had a stroke,
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he may not be able to sing. However, he's smart
enough to figure out how to use the technology so
that they can keep a business. So the other day,
this is two days ago. In fact, it was at
the end of last week the first ever global study
measuring the economic impact of AI and the music and
audio visual sectors came out and it calculated that general
of AI will enrich tech companies while substantially jeopardizing the
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income of human creators over the next five years. Because
here's the thing. Why pay a human when a computer
can do it for free? So byonn from Abber, great songwriter,
has been talking about this. He's the chairman of a
group looking after the rights of artists, and he says
the problem is that AI learns to write and perform
songs by listening to streaming services, So it's stealing the
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artist's intellectual property. So instead of having to go through
all the hard times, feel the blues, walk the roads,
learn the chords and all that sort of thing, the
computer just listens to Spotify and goes, oh, that's how
Beyond from Abber managed to write all those great songs.
I know how to write great songs. There's the computer.
I'll write a great song. And not only that, what
voice do I like? I'll choose that as well. Let's
just do it and they pay nothing now. Beyond from
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Abber also in the report singled out Australia and New
Zealand as the only countries actively taking steps to control
the rape of creativity. Yes, I said that the rape
of creativity by AI and the tech company, So go us.
But you know, have you ever stopped and wondered whether
AI might be out of control? It isn't, because we're
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in control. We make these decisions. We've decided to invent AI.
We've created AI, we use AI. We can choose to
use it. We can choose in which way to use it.
And I think the world is suddenly waking up to
the fact that some people don't choose the right way
to use it, and some people might actually use it
in a bad way, and that mister Cameron and his
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film terminator wasn't awfully far away from the truth. Because
when the AI starts deciding what's the worst thing for
the planet, they may decide it's us go by or
from Abbott and think about it. And it is eight
minutes to six.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
The news you need this morning and the in depth
analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and spit City New
Zealand's furniture bits and applying store and youth talks.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
It'd be I don't like to throw people under the bus,
But we were supposed to be talking to a fella
from the maritime industry about the fairies today, but the
maritime industry. Fella was not awakened, did not answer his phone,
which surprises me because I always thought the people in
the maritime industry always woke at dawn to check out
the weather conditions, to find out the prevailing wind, to
find out what's happening. But no, not in this case.
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This guy obviously has become soft an office bound and
let me down. But not here, the duperc Allen is here.
Speaker 13 (31:32):
No, But to be fair, to be fair, I did
walk into the studio while you're already talking.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I know, so I was late as well. Are you
having a day of it?
Speaker 5 (31:40):
Are?
Speaker 7 (31:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:41):
There we are. It's all good. So what do you do?
You do you want to talk about your big secret
about tax and lefties and all that? Or are you
going to keep that for the audience for later?
Speaker 13 (31:52):
Are you talking about Dibbingardi a packer?
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (31:55):
Oh well no, I'm happy to talk about it. Dibbing
Ardi were packers had had an absolute stellar of a
day yesterday where she announced that we would be making
if we do you know how rich we're going to
be if we're bringing the capital gains tax.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
It's an extraordinary im mensely it means obviously.
Speaker 13 (32:09):
Yeah, in about five years, we would bring in twenty billion, no,
two hundred billion dollars. Oh really into the country's coffers. Yeah,
which is a remarkable number because if you if you
consider it over five years, that's bought like forty million,
fifty million bucks billion sorry, every single year, the.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Entire worth of New Zealand. In fact, more there's the
entire debt of New Zealand, both government and private. It's
a big number.
Speaker 13 (32:32):
I mean, I think I heard Thomas Coglan from The
Herald saying yesterday that is in twenty twenty one. Remember
when we post COVID in twenty twenty one, we had
that big year of everybody buying houses. Everybody wanted to
beach house and stuff like that, so that was like
the biggest house selling year we ever had. I think
that the entire country bought about forty billion dollars worth
of housing stock in that year. So if we would
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have to have for her numbers to be right, we'd
have to repeat that same year every single year, and
we would have to tax the house at one hundred percent.
So I'm feeling like Debbie's off with that.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Well, have you ever heard about the radical Left ever
being in any way, shape or form economically literate.
Speaker 13 (33:11):
Well, she's not helping the case. Labor must be pulling
their hair out. But between the Greens and.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Their ideas and the left views taxes punishment. Yeah, they
don't view it as revenue to actually be collective and
for us to improve ourselves, to be investment in the country.
They view it as punishment. It's all envy, and it's
all envy and punishment. It's just a different.
Speaker 13 (33:31):
Perspective on money, on wealth, right, it's the collective versus
the individual. Like you make your money, you think it's yours.
You make your money, they think it's everybody's because we're
all in this.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
But also, I make some money. I don't mind paying
some money so that I've got a decent road that
doesn't have a pothole that I can drive off.
Speaker 13 (33:45):
I'll sell you what I'm fascinated by.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Though.
Speaker 13 (33:46):
We're going to have a chat to the guys from
the greyhound industry this morning, because it sounds like that
decision that that came from Winston Peters yesterday. They had
about forty five minutes heads up that that was happening there.
It's remarkable.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I talked to the SBCA. They say they've been advocating
for years.
Speaker 13 (34:00):
Yeah, and then all of a sudden, there have been
quite a few announcements in the last week that have
just been all of a sudden, really weird.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
So Christmas got to get it over and go on holiday.
And thank you so much. Thank you to Leo and
the producer. See you tomorrow, just you and me and three.
Speaker 13 (34:19):
A cozy little Christmas here with you.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
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