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Speaker 1 (00:02):
The issues, the interviews US and the inside. Andrew Dickens
on the early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture
Beds and apply at store news Dogs.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
It'd be well, good morning to you.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Thank you for choosing the show. It is the thirteenth
of December. It is a Black Friday and I'm Andrew
Dickinson coming up on the program. Today, health targets are released.
We're heading most of them. But does hitting the targets
mean we're getting good healthcare? I will do that in
just a few moments time. The Public Service cracks down
on work from home now is that fair? And what

(00:38):
should a workplace do about w f H? And there's
a review into acc what is rotten in the heart
of the world leading scheme. The Minister joins us just
before sex. We've got Vincent mcavenni on UK and Europe
coming up, and of course of the show correspondens from
right around New Zealand. You can text me anytime you
like ninety two to ninety two. Remember a small charge

(00:58):
does apply. And if you want to do a longer dissertation,
you can't send me an email. And that It's Dickens
at Newstalk zeb dot co dot NZ.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
The agenda.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
So it's Friday, the thirteenth of December. US President Joe
Biden is set to commute the sentences of fifteen hundred
non violent offenders. This is the largest day of clemency
in history.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
The White House says all of these offenders are quote
nonviolent and have been placed on home confinement for at
least a year, adding that they had shown quote successful
rehabilitation and a strong commitment to making their community safer.
And the White House says that we should expect more
of this to happen before the President leaves office in
just thirty nine days.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Now to Australia more exactly Queensland, and they passed some
new laws which are quite george dropping. What do you
think the new law will see criminal children as young
as ten years old jailed like adults.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
Our number one priority as a government in space is
fewer victim numbers and this gives the police the laws
they need to be able to do their job.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
So if you're convicted for a serious crime like murder
and your tenth or serious assault and your ten, you
will be subject to the same sentences as adults. The
laws have been dubbed adult crime, Adult time. What do
you think about that idea? In New Zealand, ninety two
ninety two is the text number to South Korea and
South Korea's president has made another televised address, this time

(02:28):
defending his decision to declare martial law last week.

Speaker 6 (02:32):
We must prevent the forces in criminal groups that have
led to the paralysis of government administration and disorder of
the national constitution from taking over the state administration and
threatening the future of the Republic of career. No matter what,
I will fight to the end.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
And a second impeachment vote is set to be held
this weekend after the first one failed. And finally, as
you heard with Neva, it's just been announced that Donald
Trump has been named Time Persons of the Year for
the second time. He won it once after he won
the first election. Now he's got one it again for
the great comeback. He's beaten Elon Musk, who I thought
might have got it because you know, he's been very
powerful in the election. Plus he's done some rockets and

(03:12):
some cars and some batteries and stuff and X but no,
Donald Trump wins. Time Magazine's editor in chief says he
won the title for marshaling a comeback of historic proportions,
for driving a once in a generation political realignment, for
reshaping the American presidency and altering America's role in the world.
He first got the Person of the Year back in

(03:32):
twenty sixteen after he won the presidential election. Then it
is ten after five.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Andrew Dickens on the early edition with Smith City, New
Zealand's furniture beds and applying store news talk siddy.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Now, don't you hate it when the kids fighted? There's
a quiet war happening right now between David Seymour and
Winston Peters, the coalition partners. It's kicked up a little lately,
both boys playing games as they try to win the
hearts of the public and then win votes, which will
be all important when we finally go back to the
polls in twenty twenty six This, of course, is the
problem when you're a minor party. You need to make

(04:06):
noise to be noticed. You can get swamped so very
very easily. And the big noise for a while has
been David Seymour, who took conversations by the throat with
his treaty principles act love it or hate it, you're
all talking about it, which is all the politician wants.
Last week, I said when I was doing the drive,
so I did an editorial that said that Winston's been
a good boy while he's held the Deputy Prime minister job,

(04:29):
but that's coming to an end in a few months.
He does a swap seat with David Seymour. That will
free Winston's hand. You're gonna hear a lot more from him.
And look at that he started this week. That's why
he's taken over the railways. He wants to be seen
as a savior and a solver. The Herald editorial this
morning calls the move a Peter's power play. Seymour and

(04:50):
Peters have very different views of the railways. By the way,
Winston blames past privatizations. David wants to privatize forty nine
percent of it. Winston, by the way, also has a
treaty principal strategy. Just like David. He's looking to cancel
the legislation that already exists that prescribes how the treaty
veigels its way into our legislation. It's got a much

(05:13):
better chance of success than Seymour's Act and referendum but
so far it's flown under the radar since the election.
That hacks Winston off, and it's coming and he's going
to be free to promote it. So you're going to
hear a lot more about that soon. And you've got
to remember the difference between Winston and David. Winston is
an old school conservative and closer really to those old

(05:34):
fashioned socialists. We used to know they cared about the
working class, but it didn't have much truck with all
that sort of liberal stuff, you know, those guys. David Seymour,
though he's part of the new Conservatism and believes in capitalism,
markets and winner takes all. Winston doesn't believe that. They
are not naturally compatible. So I think it's a good
thing that they're starting to fight, even if they are

(05:56):
fighting in public. The next eighteen months looks to be
increasingly entertaining, and that is also a good thing because
you know, what are we about here? A contest of ideas?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Andrew Dickens, did you see We've.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Got to strike in the military game right now. It's
rumbling on. The civilian arm has been on a ghostlow
for the nearly a month now after they were offered
a wait for this zero percent pay rise. So work's
still happening. I've got a few friends who work in
the civilian arm. I live than Devenport. For my sins,
I have a few friends who work in it. It's happening.
They're doing it from home. It is certainly slow, and

(06:31):
yesterday the Defenseman of the Judith Collins, had to announce
that the military wing who are not allowed by legislation
to strike, have had their Christmas and New Year leave
canceled so that the military can keep running, which sucks
if you're in uniform, but it's another sign that our
defense force is woefully underfunded and they're trying to run
a truck on what is at five hundred budget. So look,

(06:53):
here's the thing. We spend one point one seven percent
of GDP on defense spending. That's pretty low. Internet at
the Worldwide Convention is two percent, Australia is one point
nine percent. These are troubled times. Do you think we
should be spending more on defense and so we don't
have military strikes? You can text me right the way
through the program. Ninety two ninety two is the number

(07:16):
news talks thereb so on the way to Fato Aora
has released its health targets. Now our health target is
a good way to run a health system. Will discuss
this in a mo with Debra Powell.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
The First Word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture
Bids and Applying Store Youth talks.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
It Bey, what do you reckon about queens and day
you do a crime you're ten years old, like murder
or a serious assault. You do a big crime, they
say you now do adult time. Grant reckons here, get
tough on crime. I for an eye in my book.
And then he says, and I quote a length of
rope is cheap, excell Grant. Meanwhile, Paul, thank you so
much for contributing to the program.

Speaker 7 (07:53):
Morning.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
It is Korea, not South Korea. There is only North
Korea and Korea. Good to know. It is sixteen f
So tifut to Order has released its health targets for
July to September this year, and all but three are
on track. Sixty seven and a half percent of patients
were admitted, discharged or transferred from an ED within six hours.

(08:15):
The target was seventy four percent. So do a bit
better there, and that's the big, big failure, but most
are on track. This comes after Health New Zealand released
its workforce plan. It says we will need three four
hundred doctors over the next ten years, and of course
critics of the health targets say we need more doctors
to meet those targets. But where will the doctors come
from and can we reach they four hundred and ten years.

(08:39):
So Deborah Powell is the National Secretary of the Resident
Doctors Association, joins me. Now, Hello Deborah, Good morning Andrew.
So the targets are on track. The government will be happy.
They like numbers, they like targets. Is that a true
representation of where our healthcare is at? Does it mean
we're getting better healthcare?

Speaker 8 (08:57):
No, it doesn't.

Speaker 9 (08:58):
I'm afraid our healthcare system is under real stress. Anyone
who's been to an ED will see that. And you know,
we've got block problems because we simply don't have enough
beds or the staff to look after the patients inside
our hospitals. We have problems in radiology because we don't
have enough radiologists or medical imaging technologists. So people get

(09:19):
stuck in d because they can't get an X ray
or CT and the volumes, the volumes of patients that
we're being asked to look after is just so huge
number of factors there. We've got an aging population, so
you know there is more demand, but primary care isn't
being supported enough, and so people are turning up to
ED because they can't get.

Speaker 8 (09:38):
To a GP.

Speaker 9 (09:39):
So no, our health system is not doing well. And
you know, releasing this at the same time as the
workforce Plan, well that was an interesting strategy. I have
to say. Well, because the workforce Plan has long awaited,
it's overdue of course. And three four hundred more doctors,
as you say, but no new medical school. You know, ultimately,

(10:02):
if we're going to get more doctors in this country,
we need to produce.

Speaker 8 (10:05):
We need new.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Medical They've promised one in way Kato. You can't just
rust up a medical school overnight.

Speaker 9 (10:13):
Well, they've promised one, but then they started talking about
the business case and we haven't heard anything further. I
understand that promise is possibly a shaky ground and the
money all.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Right, good, well, you've seen what's happening in to needing.
So let's take a look at the targets. You know,
for instance, eighty four point six percent of patients received
cancer management within thirty one days of a decision to treat.
And that's quite good and that means we are well.
And what I'm saying, don't the targets focus the mind
of all the practitioners and the patients to get their
care underway.

Speaker 10 (10:44):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (10:45):
Absolutely. But I don't think any of our doctors or
allied scientists and technical staff such as our radiation therapists
of course, who are treating cancer patients are setting around,
you know, not really interested in the next one that
rolls up. That's not the case. They're working really really hard.
They always have. And yeah, getting patients through, getting patients
treated is what health practitioners are there for. And yeah,

(11:06):
they're very focused.

Speaker 8 (11:07):
On doing that. These are general figures, you know.

Speaker 9 (11:10):
For instance, we've got real problems in Wellington and Palmerston
North with a number of radiation therapists we have there.
We've had on their accelerators not working during this year
something because we don't have enough staff to run them.
So they do an amazing job with a really difficult environment.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
I have to say, very good stuff, Deborah. Enjoy your Christmas.
If we don't speak again, we'll get my love to
Ian and I thank you for your time today and
it is coming up nearly five twenty and this is
News Talk's b And meanwhile, can I just say the
need to find three four hundred new doctors inside the
next ten years is a huge target, and we'll take
a huge investment, and we'll take a huge immigration push.

(11:46):
And that's a big number. And that's how badly we've
fallen down over the last fifty years in providing with
our healthcare. So that's a biggie. The other biggie is
the acc accounts came out the other day. We are
seven point two billion dollars in deficit. We used to
be in surplus just a couple of years ago. Matt
Doocy just before six o'clock today here on News Talks.
There b it is five twenty.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Get ahead of the headlines. Andrew Dickens on early edition
with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture Bids and Appliant Store
Youth Talks.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
It'd be so post pandemic is certainly the issue for
employers and employees to a certain degree work from home.
We started working from home, and then of course the
pandemic ended and we kept on working from home, and
some people are really against it. Elon Musk is going
to crack down in America and much to the dismay
of Public Service of New Zealand, the Public Service Commissioner
yesterday issued new guidance on working from home now. The

(12:38):
new guidelines make it clear working from home isn't an
entitlement and all flexible work arrangements must be agreed and
managed to support a high performance culture. So Jennifer Mills
is an employment specialist at Jennifer Mills and Associates, and
she joins me now morning.

Speaker 10 (12:54):
Jennifer, Good morning, Andrew.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
What do you think of the guidance. I think it's
pretty good.

Speaker 10 (13:00):
Well, you're right to identify that the guidelines don't override
any existing contractual arrangements or statutes, and it gives the
agencies guidance in terms of what they need to do now.
And the whole idea behind the guidelines is just to
ensure that there's an alignment between agencies flexible working policies

(13:25):
and government's expectations. So they've made it very clear that
working from home in the public service isn't an entitlement
and there needs to be an express agreement between the parties.
Working from home arrangements can only be agreed where they
won't compromise performance of employees, teams, and the agencies as

(13:49):
a whole. And as you've identified, agencies are now required
to monitor and report on these arrangements that are in place.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
And this is a good lesson for every employer and
every employee. I mean, too many people these days have
gone well, I don't feel like going, and I think
I might do a little bit of the WFH. And
they do it without telling their managers, without telling anybody,
and so it's a bit ad hoc. You know, if
you want to do this, fine, do it, but make
sure that you are set up to do it properly,
which means agreement between your employer and yourself and everybody

(14:20):
you're working on projects with.

Speaker 10 (14:22):
Well, that's exactly right, Andrew. So as long as there's transparency.
The idea is that these guidelines won't cut across those arrangements,
but there does need to be express agreement, transparency and
just another cheek if you like that these ongoing arrangements
are suitable. And we've seen great employee resistance on the

(14:44):
return to office directive. Although this guideline doesn't go that far.
And in the private space we've seen employees are reluctant
to return back to work full time. But it seems
that the hybrid model is one that is working well.
And study show that there is no productivity issue between

(15:05):
those in the office full time and hybrid workers. But
the productivity issues arise where employees work from home full time,
and I suspect the driver behind this guidance is to
have better integration between employee and employer in the public
sector and perhaps to stamp out those one hundred percent

(15:27):
workers from home as opposed to the hybrid model.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Good good stuff. Thank you Jennifer Bills for taking our
time well us today it is five twenty six, and
I would suggest possibly, if you're an employer, just part
of copying what the public service has done and perhaps
thinking about instituting it in your workplace as well. Then
to Macavanni. Coming up in about fifteen minutes, we'll have
the latest from Syria. This is News TALKSB, the early
edition full show podcast on Iron Art Radio powered by NEWSTALKSB.

(15:55):
All right, here comes the weekend. Here comes a bit
of sport. We've got the black Caps playing in Hamilton
against England. I'll bother or not. I don't know, because
the black Caps have broken my heart over the last
two tests, to be fair, but it's good to see
Will Young is back playing. Now we've got football this
weekend as well. Phoenix play MacArthur, orcand f C plays Melbourne.
Hey hold on, I'm talking about football, the round ball game.
Who would have thought that in New Zealand football or

(16:16):
soccer would command such attention, would sell out twenty five
thousand seater stadiums. And the boost has been the arrival
of the ork NEFC, all the Black Knights, And the
question keeps getting asked, how come Orkande f C got
so good, so fast six zip? How good is that?
And how come they brought so many fans with them?
So here's my theory there, billionaire backer meant that he
could afford to get a good rounded squad right from

(16:37):
the get go. It's a great squad. There's a squad
stuff with all whites, that means stuff with Kiwi's and
Orcander's that appeals to the home crowd. We can be
proud of them. They hired a great coach and Steve Carriker,
He's done it before. Great captain and a Japanese legend.
They've tapped into the rising popularity of football amongst younger men,
in particular because Sky is finally playing the Premier League.

(16:57):
They stipulated that home games are in the late afternoon
so families can come, and if you've got kids, you
know it. I mean for younger fans as well, it's
just part of a night out. They go out after
the game, so it's not the bee or an end all,
and the ground is full on entertainment because frankly, a
ninety minute game is a long game for those easily distracted.
So they've learned all this I reckon from the Warriors.

(17:20):
And you look at AFC and the Warriors, and then
you look at the All Blacks, so you can see
the difference the All Backs and the Warriors. Well, no,
the Black Knights and the Warriors love their fans and
their fans love them back, unlike the All Blacks who
demand you worship them and then force you to watch
night games in a freezing June and July, who export
a home game against the French to America. And now
Ford has said the All Backs can't have any four cars.

(17:42):
That's a Biggie. That is so all backs. You should
be watching The New Boys.

Speaker 8 (17:46):
I tell you.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Love it on your radio and online on iHeartRadio. Earlier
edition with Andrew Dickens and It's City New Zealand's furniture
Bids and applying store us Talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Well, here's Coldplay and strange enough. Last night, looking for
something to watch for half an hour, I watched the
Capital Radio jingle Bell Ball in London at the O
two Arena the other day with a little half hour
set from Coldplay. Oh it brings a smile to your face.
Bad delightful boys. Welcome to the program. I'm Andrew Dickins.
It's twenty three to six. So we've got Defense Force

(18:36):
civilians on strike. They're on a ghost slow. They're happen
for about a month. And now the military guys, the
guys in uniform, are being told all holiday leave canceled
because we've got to keep the military running. And the
whole reason for this is we do not have enough money.
We do not spend much money on defense. I said,
should we do?

Speaker 10 (18:52):
So?

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Paul has written to me and said, yes, more on defense.
We need to start pulling our weight. It will take
two to three years for US to build up and
be moore Cape. Australia are preparing for war and if
New Zealand finds that it suddenly needs more military defense
supplies and they will become in short supply and highly expensive,
just like buying stuff during the COVID. And that's a
very good point, Paul, so thank you so very very much. Meanwhile,

(19:14):
still on defense, and also on sport and in politics,
they say sport and politics shouldn't mix, but that's bolderdesh.

Speaker 10 (19:20):
So.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
I heard yesterday Papua New Guinea will join Australia's NURL league.
They're going to play a rugby league there after signing
a deal. So Australia will provide six hundred million dollars.
Australia will albo Will Albernizi's giving Papia New Guinea six
hundred million dollars over ten years to set up a team.
And I went, what the hell has the Australian government
got to do with that? Then you go and look

(19:41):
at the story and realize that in exchange, Papua New
Guinea has signed a separate pact which says it reaffirms
its commitment to Australia as its major security partner. Basically,
this is a rugby league deal that obligates Papua New
Guinea to shun security ties with China. It's twenty two

(20:03):
to six. Let's go around New Zealand. Callen Procton joins
us from Duneed and Halle Cullen Morning Andrew. We've got
the Otager University graduation ceremony and there's going to be
a special award and people are going to be honored.

Speaker 11 (20:17):
Yeah, a couple of the university senior leaders are being
recognized at tomorrow's graduation through a prestigious academic award. So
this is Stephen Haggs and also Professor Helen Nicholson both
being awarded an honorary Doctor of Laws for their twelve
and twenty four years of work, which included being as
chancellor and acting Vice chancellor. Both of them are helping

(20:39):
guide the university through times of change. Are the current
chancellors Trish Oakley? She says these awards aren't given out
every day and she's delighted to be able to recognize
their contribution which extends way beyond just the university.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
And how is the weather today?

Speaker 11 (20:54):
Are mostly cloudy, a few showers today, clearing by this evening,
though the high seventeenth to crazy.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Here we go. Thomas Rice joins me. Hello Tom, Hello, Hello.
Krashos Mayor is hoping that Contabrians can get behind the
city Missions Christmas appeal.

Speaker 12 (21:05):
Yeah yeah, and he's even calling the level of need
a sad state of of fears. The charity is trying
to get one eight hundred food parcels for local families
over the holiday period. The partially restored Cross Church Cathedral
has even got behind the efforts, with proceeds from public
cathedral tours going to the appeal and me at film
Major says anyone who can give money should be congratulated,

(21:26):
adding that it's surreal to see the cues of people
waiting outside the mission, and so much so that even
traffic management's needed. Okay, and how's the weather in Canterbury.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Yeah, it's all right.

Speaker 12 (21:35):
It's fine at first, cloud and isolated showers developing kind
of late morning and claring in the evening with a
high of twenty four.

Speaker 3 (21:40):
Excellent. Thank you so much. Max Toel from Wellington, how
are you good? How are you good? We've got a
breakthrough for a landmark now what landmark are we talking about?

Speaker 7 (21:49):
Yeah, so this is the Oriental Bay band Rotunda. Excuse me, Yes,
the white whale of the Capital. You might say that
it's a large, semi circular building that juts out over
the beach. Used to be a seafood restaurant. It's sat
empty for more than a decade, I think because it's
that dreaded combo of being quake prone and heritage listed.

(22:09):
But it's a beautiful building, a beautiful site. I can
tell you that tourists who visit Wellington for the first
time probably see it on the horizon and get it excited,
thinking it's some sort of beautiful restaurant or bar or something.
Let's head there, and are sorely disappointed. The good news
is a new developer is taking it over, planning to
open a spa on the top on the bottom floor,

(22:31):
a restaurant and bar off the top. By twenty twenty
seven there was an offer approved by the City Council
by Watson Group. There behind other residential developments in the Capitol,
all going well, quake strengthening to start in the new year.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
It's good news. When I lived in Willington, I used
to go there for a dinner or a lunch maybe
every couple of months because it was so good. Yes, seafood, seafood,
must eat food. How's your weather?

Speaker 7 (22:55):
That's right, beautiful views as well. It should be fine
today twenty two the high Central very good.

Speaker 3 (23:00):
And Neiva Rettaman, who is a very happy camper because
today is here Friday, last day before she's off on
her fest of holiday.

Speaker 13 (23:08):
Well, I must say I think everyone in the newsroom
is very happy about that, because I have been annoying
this and I have been saying I've just been running
around the newsroom laughing, cackling.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
I've only been doing the show for a week and
you'd be annoying me from Monday. There we go, so
Orkan's waterfront footbridge. Is it going to open this morning? Look,
there was some doubts, there was some doubt.

Speaker 13 (23:29):
Well, I think there's a just a we slyther slither
of a doubt as well this morning. But everyone outside
of Auckland be thinking, oh flipp an Ekre's footbridge again.
But we are sending a reporter out there this morning
and apparently it should be opened by seven thirty this morning.
That's that bridge connecting when you'd caught her. Due to
reopen at seven thirty this morning. Our reporters on his

(23:49):
way there, so we will give you an update now,
you know. The Winnard Pavilion general manager Alex Pearson says,
they're so excited. I think there'll be a few people
down there. If I wasn't reading the news this morning,
I'd be one of those people down there because you know,
like we've got sale GP in January, We've got six
sixty coming Auckland boat Show over the summer, all these

(24:10):
things happening at the viaduct and people do not want
to walk, you know.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
And I ride a bicycle through the viaduct the other
day that region and it was basically empty. Yeah, you
know absolutely that that bridge has been a disaster. It
has our short sighted this and a lack of investment.
If it's fixed, that's a good.

Speaker 13 (24:27):
View, yes, And you know, and for those businesses, really
you've got to think about those businesses. You know they
will be I mean they've had huge losses and in
one of them said they've had losses up to sixty percent.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
So good stuff.

Speaker 13 (24:38):
Yes, that will be in the news this morning.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
So now the bridge is open house. The weather for promenading.

Speaker 13 (24:44):
Well, can I just say one word, muggy, not a
good day for here, Look at your here, don't go
down there for you. I mean like it's going to
be so hot twenty threes a high. But you know
it's just that humidity and it is happening today.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Good stuff, and I thank you. At seventeen to six,
in a moment, we're talking to Vincent mcaven he's going
to talk to us about the latest from Syria. It
really sucks to be Syrian. To be fair, you know,
you have the euphoria of the freedom of the revolution,
and you may have been a refugee and you've gone.
There's a million Cyrillians who got into Germany because Angela
Merkell welcomed them, and then, wouldn't you know it, the

(25:18):
next day, of course, all the countries in Europe started
turning around and the rights of the politics started saying
things like, well, I think it's time now that those
Syrians who arrived in twenty eleven might go home, even
though of course they've set up life here and they're
running all the jobs that Germans and Hungarians don't want
to do. So anyway, it sucks to be Syria. We'll

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Speaker 3 (26:58):
Bint maccaveetty. Welcome to them.

Speaker 8 (27:00):
How are you good morning? I'm well, thanks, how are
you very good?

Speaker 3 (27:04):
About a million people have a Syrian passport in Germany.
Most of them came what fifteen sixteen Angel and Mercal
invited them in and now what's happened in Syria. A
lot of people are saying time to go home.

Speaker 8 (27:17):
Yeah, millions of others across the rest of Europe as well.
There's lots in the UK. I've been speaking to some
today and some are incredibly keen to get home. We
know that, for instance, the UK has now stopped processing
assilent claims from Syria. Some other UK European nations are
looking at repatriation schemes, but some are already saying that, look,
they're going to go home and do trips, be reunited

(27:39):
with family in the coming weeks and then it will
take them a few months to figure out how exactly
they move home and what they will do when they
get there. But many who I've spoken to today very
optimistic about the fact that they can go home. They
want to try to rebuild Syria. They are, of course,
concerned about what's been going on. There's still a lot
of confusion at the moment. We know that the rebel leader,

(28:01):
they're saying that he'll dissolve security forces, that the interim
government will remain in place until March, and that we
still got the US and Israel carrying out a number
of strikes in the country to take out military installations
and also to try and curtail Isis from rerouping.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
True enough, true enough. But there's also a lot of
people who have Syrians who have made their lives in Germany,
and these I understand the health Stike DOS very concerned
because they've become quite dependent on the cheaper labor.

Speaker 8 (28:27):
Yeah, that's right. I was speaking actually to a medical
association via Zoom in northern Syria today and they are
trying to treat those who've come out of prison with
all of these severe torture wounds and real sort of
psychological scars from this as well. They've been urging Syrian
medics who many of them were sort of had to
flee the country over the five decades of the ASSAD regime,

(28:49):
many of them highly skilled. You've got some top Syrian
surgeons here in London for instance. Not for them are
wanting to go home, but it could cause shortfalls of
expertise here. But it will be a decision for them
to make as to whether or not they go back.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
Then's the mac of Enny out of the UK. Thank
you for your time in the target. It's OW ten to.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Six Andrew Diggins.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
So the ACC Minister has announced an independent review into
ACC because of concerns about its performance. Matt Doocey says
rehabilitation rates up down, weekly compensation costs and average cost
per claim were up. That's not efficient. Not only that
there was a seven point two billion dollar deficit, which
is a worry. We were in surplace a couple of
years ago. Matt Doocy joins, you now goimoing to you

(29:29):
Matt at the RIDI Andrew, what are you going to
look into?

Speaker 8 (29:34):
Basically?

Speaker 14 (29:34):
What I want to do from the external review it
will be conducted within six months, is to seek assurance
that ACC has the right settings and interventions in place
to turn around their declining rehabilitation rates and to address
the expansion of the number of people on long term prime.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
So is the review because you don't know why their
numbers said or their heading of targets has falling in.
You don't know why they're not rehabilitating better, and you
don't know why it's costing.

Speaker 14 (30:05):
Well, when we look at the deficit that ACC posted
in the last year about seven point two billion dollars,
it's about a third a third and a third of
that has increased costs through inflation and treatment costs. A
third of it is to do with court rulings that
have opened up entitlements, and a third of that is
the declining rehabilitation rates. Now ACC is recently restructured. They've

(30:30):
deployed an extra two hundred and fifty people on the
front line, moved from a many to one case management
approach to narrow one to one. So they're putting their
systems and interventions in place. But I want to get
experts in. They've got experience of excellent compensation schemes to
give me assurance that every lever has been pulled to

(30:50):
ensure we turn those declining rehability session rates around.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Okay, and we'll good luck with that. Meanwhile, of course,
the deficit means that you've announced increasing levees. Levies have
are increasing by up to five percent a year for
three years. Do you think if you have a successful
review you can actually reverse those increasing levees, you could
bring the cost down.

Speaker 14 (31:09):
Well, the advice I've got is that we need to
do both at the moment, is increase levees and also
turn around the declining rehabilitation rates. What we're looking at
the long term ten year horizon as well. But I've
been very clear with ACC. I don't want to see
the increasing of ACC levees just been used as a
default to address their deficit. They need to lift their performance.

(31:33):
The advice I've got is even a one percent improvement
and rehabilitation rates will have a significant impact in the
long term on their deficit. And that's why we really
want to drive up those rehabilitation rates.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Well, it's the deficit is mind blowing, an eye watering
at seven point two more so, anything you can do, Matt,
go ahead and do it. It is now seven minutes
to six and By the way, levees for evs are
going to go up about one hundred bucks, whereas levees
petrol vehicles going to go up about fifty. Now, why
are the evs more dangerous? Apparently it's because the evs

(32:06):
don't pay the petrol tax. But is that necessarily fair?
He says as an ev owner.

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Speaker 8 (32:33):
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Speaker 3 (32:33):
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another text says, what's the constant use of festive? Are
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Speaker 13 (32:51):
No?

Speaker 3 (32:52):
We're not your paranoid man. Christmas, Christmas, Christmas, death of Christ.
God bless you. Heather bless you two Andrew things. It's Friday.

Speaker 8 (33:01):
It is Friday.

Speaker 15 (33:02):
We're going to try to you know what, We're going
to try to get into this NRL thing. Have you
seen what happened with the NRL overnight?

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, today, and they're defeating China by funding a football team.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (33:13):
So we were never in the running, were we for
our South Island football team? Not really, no, because unfortunately
it was always going to be given to PNG to
try and cut China's lunch. We have a little chat
about that. I don't think that this is good for
rugby league. Might be good for geopolitics, but if you're
a fan of the league, do.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
You know what last night I heard that story and
I heard it in the side and I said, there go,
why the hell is Albanesi giving six hundred million to
a football side? And it's not till I came in
this morning and read the story. I went, oh, and
so that was badly reported.

Speaker 15 (33:39):
Yeah, well, I also wonder what's going on with Albanizi
if he thinks that he can win an election by
annoying all the Bogans who watch rugby league.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
I don't think that that's a.

Speaker 15 (33:49):
By the way, also Una Jegozie, Solicitor General, has done
a bit a complete u turn on her prosecution guidelines
for you know, giving a free pass to Marti if
you know, if the prosecutor wants to.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
What was it a free past?

Speaker 15 (34:02):
It was it take into account, take into account, take
into account. But if you read the document further, it
gets more and more into like free past territory. Actually,
So we're gonna have a chat to her just to
find out what it is that changed her mind and
whether she accepts it is actually a mistake that she's
made in Brian roach new public service commissioners telling them
how much time they got to spend in the office.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Chato, that's a good idea too. I've talked about that
this morning. Great idea. Hey, thank you, Heather, Welcome. Thank
you to Leo the producer. My name is Andrew Dickens.
I'm back again next week haha.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
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