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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues these reviews and the insight.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Andrew Dickens on early edition with one roof make your
property search simple, new stalks, it'd be.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Well, good morning to you, Thank you so much for
choosing us, Welcome to Friday. That's a good feeling. So
on the program today, would you look at that Kayega
order will use wool in their houses after all? So
what caused that flip flop? We'll have that story for
you in five minutes time later. New statistics show that
the United States is becoming more and more important for
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New Zealand as an export partner. So what's booming and
what new challenges are arising. We'll talk to Export New
Zealand and good news for Bananos with some new funding
coming through from the government. It's good to have a
good news story on a Friday, and we will have
that story for you before six. We'll have correspondence from
around the world and around New Zealand and news as
it breaks. And if you want to say anything, you
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can text me ninety two ninety two small charge applies,
and if you want to say something more fulsome you
can email me Dickens at Newstalk zb dot co dot.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Zs the agenda.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
It's Friday, the thirty first of January, the last of
the month, and we go to the American air tragedy.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
First.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Twenty eight bodies have now been pulled from the Potomac
River in Washington, d C. After a passenger jet collided
with a military helicopter while on a final approach to
Reagan National Airport. We had sixty four people on board
the American Eagle flight and three were on the military helicopter.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
We are now at a point where we are switching
from a rescue operation to a recovery operation. At this point,
we don't believe there are any survivors from this accident,
and we have recovered twenty seven people from the plane
and one from the helicopter.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
The American Airlines chief executive has spoken about the crash overnight.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
It collided with a military aircraft on an otherwise normal approach. Now,
at this time, we don't know why the military aircraft
came into the path of the PSA aircraft.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And this is the first passenger JENI aircraft crash in
the United States since January two thousand and nine. That
was when a US Airways flight crash landed in the
Hudson River in New York City and made a hero
of the pilot Sully, who was then played by Tom
Hanks in the movie. To the Middle East and the
release of over one hundred Palestinian prisoners has set to
go ahead after being delayed due to a chaotic hostage
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released by Hamas, with Israel saying they want to see
safer conditions in future releases.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Seen the release of Agamberger, she was brought out from
the ruins of a house in the Jabalia camp.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
She was put on a stage and parated.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
By Hamas militants, forced to waive for the cameras and
for the crowd before she was handed over to the
Red Cross and driven to an Israeli military position.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Eight hostages were released by Hamas today as according to
Israeli officials, and finally, he's on a roll. He's a
busy boy. Donald Trump has ordered a detention facility for
migrants to be built at a place called Guantana Mobay.
It will hold as many as thirty thousand people, and
Trump's borders are Tom Homan says migrants could be brought
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there directly by the US Coast Guard after being intercepted
at sea making their way to the States.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
The news you Need this morning, and the in depth
analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make
your Property search Simple, Use talk Siddy.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
So it's ten out to five, and it's Friday, and
it's been a long week, and it's been the first
week of the working week. Should I say of the year,
And look at this. I'm tired, You're tired, We're all tired.
And so I don't really want to get too hot
and heavy right from the get go today. So here's
the story I loved from this week. They opened Sheinnado
O'Connor's will. She's left everything for her children. It's three
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point four million dollars. Considering I've got four of her albums,
I thought it might be a little bit more than that,
but three point four is still three point four. What
I love about this is that she's told her children
to maximize the value of her music catalog. Here you go, kids,
here's everything I ever made. Milk it for all it's worth.
I'm not here. I don't care. Cash me out, have fun,
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get rich. I wasn't so I thought about my will.
My will is far more prosaic. It just says, I
leave all my worldly possessions to Helen. If we pass together. Well,
it's not our problem, it's the boy's problem. So good luck, guys.
But having read Sannades, I'd like to take my will
upper level. I'd like to find the lawyer today and
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say I want to redo the will. I want to
give it some sparkle, and then I'd write, I Andrew Dickens,
being of sound mind, leave all my stuff to Helen,
the mother of my children, the love of my life.
Go crazy, girl, travel the world, buy a ridiculous car,
give it to a dog's home. Whatever. Just go out there,
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my baby, and live your best life. But there's only
one Profisoma. Leave nothing for the boys.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Dickens.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
The deputy mayor of Auckland, Desick Simpson, suddenly made the
news yesterday. Her son registered the domain name Deslie for
mayor dot co dot in is Head just before Christmas.
Doesn't work now, Smog being touted that she would run
one day. The excitement lasted only until she stepped off
a plane yesterday after a twenty seven hour flight. She
had been on holiday. She talked to the Herald. She
said her son registered the name as a Christmas joke.
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They all had a laugh, but when asked directly if
she was running, she said she wouldn't rule it out.
Apparently she has withdrawn from the Communities and Residence Party.
That further adds fuel to the fire if Desi Rand
should be a real threat. She's well liked, the Dago
dresser who looks like a hoop with a sparking personality.
She embodies Auckland and Ork remembers her strength during the floods.
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She's tough. She's an old school Conservative. Her husband, Peter Goodfellow,
has been the National Party president. She's a strong center
right candidate and there have been many calling for her
to step it up for many years, and I'm one
of them. But she's always demurred, always happy to be
the second fiddle, particularly when there's a conservative mayor in
Wayne Brown in the post. But you know, maybe something's changed.
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But ask yourself, if the deputy mayor decides to run
for mayor, what has that got to say about the
current mayor and the way she feels about them. Meanwhile,
on learning about the Christmas prank, the Taxpayers Union offered
to pay for the site, which I thought was a
very interesting move. If Desi and Wayne ran for the job,
it would split the center right vote and clear the
way for a lefty which the Taxpayers Union and Desley
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and Wayne wouldn't want. So why are they prodding her along?
And again what does that say about the current mayor?
What I can say is I hear a sound, and
that is the sound of Paula Bennett's day dreams going
up in flames. It's five point thirteen good news for
the wall sector. A kayanga Or is going to use wool.
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Remember that they said before. Now we're going to go
for synthetic. It's cheaper. Put in a bid wool and
we'll see. But they just never looked at the bids. Well,
apparently they've now decided to use wool. I think it's
a great story for a Friday and we'll talk about
it in a moment.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Get ahead of the headlines on early edition Andrew Dickets
and One Room Make your Property Search simple news talk
said be.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
It is five sixteen good news for wool kaing or
Or has made a U turn on the carpets. If
you remember last year, Housing New Zealand asked for tenders
from synthetic carpet suppliers for more than five thousand of
its homes, which caused an uproar from the wall sector.
Now it will reopen tenders allowing bids from suppliers of
wool carpets. So the Campaign for Wall General manager Kara
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Biggs joins me. Now in Cara, you must be ecstatic.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
Yeah, thanks for having us, Andrew. We are really ecstatic.
It's very good news. And you know, hats off to
kind of Order because they listened. You know, there was
a huge collective cry across New Zealand of you know,
come on, guys, this isn't right. You know what we
need some answers. They knew it wasn't going on, and
they reopen the tender. So it's very good news.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
They're allowing bids from wool suppliers, but they can still
decide to go with synthetic. Does that disappoint.
Speaker 8 (08:09):
You No, No, Look, all that we were asking for
from Coying Order was a chance to be able to
show them not just the price of wool and how
we can compete on price, but how we can compete
on value and significantly outperform synthetic carpets as well. And
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you know, I have full confidence in our wall carpet
companies that they can show coying order that there's a
huge amount of value that maybe needs to be accounted
for by coying order and have a slightly higher weighting.
You know, the value of wool is you know, it's natural,
it's flame resistant, it's warmer, it's more absorbent, all these
things that actually mean that it's a better and healthier
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alternative for the people that they're putting into their community housing.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
I did talk bick about this when the issue first
came up, and everyone said, you just said, well, it's
more absorbent and the problem with people are craying or
houses that they're constantly spilling stuff on carpets one percent.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
Yeah, and you know, wool carpets are more durable as well.
They actually, if they're looked after, they can actually be
a lot more durable, last a lot longer. So there's
a wee bit of education that needs to happen around
there as well. But this is all stuff that we
can we can do. You know that this can happen.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
So is it an even playing field? But between synthetic
and wall.
Speaker 8 (09:28):
Now, I think being able to be a being able
to put a proposal in makes it an even playing
field in this instance, and saying that I do think
that the waiting around environmental care and you know the
value of wall versus just having a cost conversation is
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going to be really important going forward. And that's where
we need our government agencies to be thinking not just
about cost but about value for the New Zealand people.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
All Right, Cara, I think I congratulate you and I
thank you for your time today. That's Kara Biggs, the
campaign for wooll General Manager. I've always been a fan
of wool. I've always been a fan of wall carpets.
I do not understand why wool has been a dying trade.
More the better as far as I concern. Now you
want another good news story? Here it is the United
States is now officially our second largest export destination total
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value nine billion dollars. The States overtook Australia according to
Stats New Zealand but remains behind China. So how good
is that and what are the new challenges? We'll talk
to Export New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Next on your radio and online on iHeartRadio Early Edition
with Andrew Dickens and One Roof.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Make your property search simple youth Talk said be.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
It is five twenty one time for the second good
news story of the day. The US is our second
largest export market. It overtook Australia. China is now number one.
Katherine Beard joins me now she is the Advocacy Director
of Export New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
HOWI Catherine, good morning.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
So what drove it up? What spiked it over Australia?
What's working? What are we selling?
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Look?
Speaker 9 (11:10):
A lot of it's been driven actually by beef exports,
and that beef has been used in hamburger patties. And
what seems to be really well received is the grass
fed New Zealand beef. And I think they mix it
with grain fed USA beef, so they get the fat
from the US beef and the nice lean beef from
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New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
That is very good. I love a good New Zealand beef. Now,
is this rise in US exports balancing out the lack
of demand in China as their economy stagnates a little bit?
Speaker 9 (11:45):
Look, it's definitely helping. China is hugely important to New Zealand.
But what is remarkable about the US skiing into the
number two spot for our exports is we don't actually
have a free trade agreement with United States, So it
just goes to show that it's actually a very open market.
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And while there are some tariffs, you know, they're not
high enough to be you know, preventing that trade happening.
I think the key WE dollar is probably helping as well,
and that it's quite low versus the US dollars, so
that's going to make our beef, you know, quite affordable.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
But if we're hoping for a free traded agreement, if
we're hoping for a better market to go to, the
chances of that happening are very low under the current
administration in the United States of America. So what challenges
will that provide?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
You know?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
That's right.
Speaker 9 (12:38):
So the big challenge and worry that I think a
lot of countries have and everybody's watching it closely, is
what the United States will do with regard to tariffs.
So we're definitely keeping an eye on that. If the
United States puts on blanket tariffs for all imports, then
that wouldn't be so for us because we'd still be competitive.
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I mean, it means everybody's being taxed at the same
rate essentially, so yet that cost would then fall on
the USA consumer, but we would still be competitive, so
we just have to watch and wait and see. Our
trade balance with the United States is quite even, so
you know, we important export about the same. Ye know,
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it's not hugely different in terms of value, so I
can't really see New Zealand being picked out. So let's
just let's just keep our fingers crossed.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Execurators, when you have an excess and when you have
an imbalance, that's when you get picked upon. And Katherin Beaird,
congratulations and I thank you for your time today, the
advocacy director for Export New Zealand. It is five twenty four,
speaking about overseas. Vincent mcavenniy is joining us a bit
later on hold. Lot of chaotic, crowded scenes during the
hostage releases in Israel. He'll tell us more about that,
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and we'll also talk about small boat crossings. Five twenty
four the early.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
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Speaker 3 (14:03):
News Talks There be good morning to thank you for
choosing us. I'm Andrew Dickens and for Ryan who's doing
the drive show. It's five twenty six. We are at
the end of the week. In the word of the
week obviously was privatization, and it became a debate because
David Seymour said we should do it now, and that
was in his State of the Nation's speech on Monday,
So obviously the media asked the Prime Minister what he
thinks of the junior coalition partner's thoughts, and when asked,
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Christopher Luxen vacillated, he gave the cautious political answer he
was trying not to upset anyone. He would said something like, oh,
it's something we might look at, but not without a mandate,
so we might campaign on it in two years time,
so it won't happen for two years or maybe even more.
So don't worry about it right now. Don't worry, we're
all and his answers were so convoluted that obviously the
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media asked even more questions and then of course people said,
bloody media trying to stir up trouble with their leftist bias.
But it was the Prime minister's fault for fath and
about trying not to upset, said anyone, and more specifically
the center left and all the nationalists who hate the
idea of privatization. So in all his fair thing I
don't think it worked. Why couldn't he just say good idea,
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we agree next time next and walk on because we
all know he agrees with the idea. We all know
the National Party agrees with the idea, ACT agrees with
the idea, and we all know his supporters agree with
the idea. But he didn't. Some think that's good politics.
I don't. I vote for ideas, not people who say maybe,
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because I have to say, Christopher Luxon is just like
every other politician. Their values blow in whichever win they
think the electorate is blowing. Politicians who don't just say yes,
They don't just say no, They say maybe, which frankly
is worse than both of the others. They all do it.
I mean, if you doubt me, why don't you go
along and talk to Chris Hipkins about capital gains tax
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and watch the tap dance that happens after that.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Andrew Dickens, five twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
I have revealed it at the top of the program
that I have four shnad O'Connor albums, because I was
talking about Shannada Connor's will and I've had a text
through this said Shnado Conna four albums. Gee I thought
she was only famous for being bald and cantankeris. Well,
she is bald and cantankeris. That's right, But she's also
vulnerable and she's a great storyteller with a wonderful voice.
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I thought she was a magnificent artist with a tragic life.
And the albums are brilliant and go kids, go take
it for all.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
It's worth.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Going to talk about the banks in a few moments
time too, once we get through the news and the sport.
Of course, banks have been dominating the talkback over the
course of today on being woke, and there's a new
outrage which is in the Herald if you want to
look between the banks and the coal miners, that I'll
tell you about right after the news, So we'll look
forward to that later, of course. Vincent mcavenni and before
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six o'clock this morning, I'm going to talk to Barnardo's
who have discovered new funding from the government for their services.
Don't know if he saw the news last night Social
services government funded Social services, people crying all over the
place because the funding had been cut. It was very
very dramatic. Well, here's a good news story. It's a
Friday of a social service and NGO whatever you want
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to call them, actually getting some money from the government.
So in this age, what are they doing right? We'll
find out from Bernardo's Just before Sex on Early Edition
on News Talks YB.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
I I'm Andrew Dickens, News.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
And Views you Trust to start your day.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
It's Early Edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make
your Property Search Simple, News Talks.
Speaker 10 (17:48):
It be.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Welcoming in to the end of the week. If it
was your first week back at work, you almost made it,
but you've still got to work hard for another day.
After my comments about Christopher Luxon's attitudes to privatization over
the course of the week, I've got a couple of texts.
First Texas from Ben Ben says, exactly, Andrew, you nailed it.
He is just another politician with the same old crap.
Nothing will change with Chris in there. But here's another
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opinion from Joanne says, Andrew Luxen's not Trump. He doesn't
make policy on the hoof, as frustrating as you may
find that there is a process for policy development, and
I agree with both those statements. It is now twenty
three to six. Now on the Woke banks. This is
your latest outrage of the day. The Herald reports a
coal mining firm has been told by the bn Z
that the bank would be slowly withdrawing its services, which
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would force those coal miners to have to move to
another bank. Their crime mining coal. The bank has determined
to end all financing of coal mining by the end
of the year. They say they've been upfront about it,
and that there's twenty seven other banks and numerous other
non bank lenders that a coal miner could use, so
bugger off. Well, of course, yesterday Shane Jones got volcanically
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furious all over again for the second time this week,
and once again it's promising to take on the Ossie
banks and they're moralizing.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Now.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Look, I could see the B and z's view if
coal was extraneous to our economy, but it's not. We
need coal to make up the shortfall and our electricity production,
as we found out last winter. We need coal in
our milk industry, We need coal all over the place.
Coal is not redundant yet. If it was, if we
developed a new energy source, that meant that coal was
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unnecessary and the burning of coal was actually just a dirty,
little cost cutter. Then we could aid its path to
go the way of the dinosaurs. But that's not what's
happening right now. That's our energy problem. No new dams,
no lake onslow insurance policy, some wind and geo thermal
that that will well, I can tell you will not
make up the shortfall. We need coal and until someone
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finds the long awaited alternative, then coal is here to stay.
I'm sorry, bean Zed, and I wonder. I wonder if
the banks are still prepared to lend to their big
clients who criss crossed the world in private jets or
is their moral judgment selective. Seconds around the country we
go Callum Proctor, Hello.
Speaker 11 (20:17):
I'm morning Andrew.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
We should do this with him quietly, shouldn't we? Because
apparently Dunedin's doing something about sound sensitivity.
Speaker 11 (20:26):
Yes it is, and that's tonight at Forsyth Bar Stadium.
From tonight it's the South Island's first sound sensitivity station
at the stadium, offering free air plugs to those in need. Look,
this is intended to create an inclusive environment for kwis
who struggle with noise at big events, and it's off
the back of a successful launcher eed in Park last year.
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And now it's come to the South. There's also a
growing amount of people who are opting for air plugs
to protect their hearing at large scale events. The stadium's
commercial managers, Rachel Jenkins. She says that these are free
sound stations crucial to ensure they provide a welcoming atmosphere
for all, and they'll be available for tonight's motocross show
at Forsyth Bars Stadium.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Oh, there we go motocross. So it's going to be loud,
but you can be quiet. But there we go. And
how high do you have your headphones? Callum too loud?
Speaker 11 (21:16):
Andrew far too loud?
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Me too, freaks out? Make it can tear. How's your weather?
Speaker 11 (21:21):
Yeah, it's good, mainly fine morning and evening, cloud light. Wednesday,
it's high twenty today.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
What's happening in christ Is? Shannon Johnston joins me, Hello, Shanna,
good morning. Tell me about Urban Jungle.
Speaker 9 (21:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (21:31):
So this is set to become the first major concert
at the Red Zone Sector seven off New Brighton Road
in March. The city Council's trialing use of the space
this summer. Director JB. Moyer says there's a venue shortage
currently and noise restrictions in the city center aren't helping.
It says Sector seven's location is a bit of a downside,
so that organizing buses to the event. Moyer says it's
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a good option for events, but there is a lack
of mid sized venues in christ.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Church good enough And how's the weather.
Speaker 10 (22:00):
Cloud clearing to fine around midday but returning in the
evening southerly's developing for a time This arvo in evening
high twenty.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Three to Wellington we go a mex told joins me
hallo Max, good morning, So the match loved Wellington Water's
making changes at the top.
Speaker 12 (22:15):
Well, yeah, Wellington Water was really talking itself up last
week and apparently much improved twenty twenty four after a
disastrous few years. That would be fair to say. It
believes it is on track to get a grip on
the city's leaks, the vast amount of water being lost
via old rusting pipes, so off the back of that,
and it's got a new chief executive as well, really
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making his mark. Our newsroom can reveal that Wellington Water
is undergoing a restructure and creating two new senior roles,
a Chief operating Officer and a head of transformation, not
cutting any jobs. It should be clarified. Wellington Water wants
to bring back in house some responsibilities previously given to subcontractors.
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Subcontractors like full and Hogan, et cetera. More accountability is
the aim. The chief operating Officer will oversee more of
the day to day operations. These changes to come into
effect February ten.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
More leek fixing should be the aim. But there we go.
How's your weather.
Speaker 12 (23:14):
Scattered rain clearing this afternoon twenty two the High Central And.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
I thank you for your time, Neva writtenman who now
joins me.
Speaker 13 (23:20):
Yay, Happy Friday.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
We've made it delightful.
Speaker 12 (23:25):
So come ea.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Scooters have been around for a while, but we're not
getting any better on riding them.
Speaker 13 (23:30):
No, does this surprise you? I have figured for you
this morning from ACC. So this is the new data
that's been released to news Talk ZB and it shows
it ACC paid out almost fifteen million dollars for injuries
last year. Now that's up almost fifty percent on the
year before. So we've got three thy four hundred new claims.
They were launched and about a third of them are
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in Auckland.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Well, look, I have a NYE scooter. I have a
personal one. Oh do you I've never crashed it, yeah,
because you know, but I'm self righteous, you know, I'm magnificent, etcetera.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
I've never crashed it.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
But I watch all the kids and all the young
adults right around on the East scooters, and they are
not skilled, and often they are drunk, and so I'm
not surprised.
Speaker 13 (24:10):
Well, and that's the other thing too, because AA is
saying that that private ees scooter ownership that's continuing to rise,
and you know, and you can buy the scooters, you know,
I mean that's the thing. And they can go up
to one hundred and twenty k Now, I can't.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Think my one can go thirty. Yeah, and it costs
fifteen hundred bucks.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
And we commute.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Do you use it all the time when I'm going
around town? Yeah, that's great fun.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
How's the weather okay?
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Right?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
Cloudy?
Speaker 13 (24:33):
Isolated chairs clearing in the afternoon. Muggie, twenty six is
the high today?
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Neither Retama. Who's seventeen minutes to six. We're after Europe
in a few moments time. The prisoner release in the
Middle East is chaotic. But who's surprised at that and
the UK has a new idea to stop the small
boat crossings and Vincent McAvennie will be telling us about
that in a few moments time. And before sex good
news for Bernados this Friday.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
International correspondence with insin Eye Insurance feace of mind for
New Zealand business.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
It's fourteen to six, fourteen minutes away from the Mike
Hosking breakfast and we go to Europe with Vincent mcavinie
who joined in El Hella.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Vincent, good morning.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
So the prisoner released in the Middle East is chaotic.
Speaker 14 (25:21):
Yeah, there's been pretty chaotic scenes. A further eight hostages
were released, three of them were Israelis, five of them
were Thai agricultural workers who were also taken back on
October seventh, twenty twenty three. But there have been these
scenes once again where huge numbers of Hamas fighters have
come out and they've been filming the releases using drones
and everything. But there have been huge crowds, so much
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so that two of the Israelis whilst they were being released,
looked to be being swarmed and crushed by these sort
of dozens and dozens of people. It's angered the Israeli
government so much that Benjaminettannia, who has warned that this
cannot happen again, in fact, pause of some Palestinians, that
some one hundred and ten Palestinians being released from prisoners
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for several hours because he was so annoyed at the
pictures that were coming out, the sort of you know,
it's quite traumatic for these people that have been hidden
away in tunnels for many months to suddenly be in
daylight for the first time again and just absolutely surrounded
by people. So some ugly scenes there, but at least
they are now home in Israel being looked after, and
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those Thai workers as well are being treated before they'll
get to go home finally to Thailand.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Well, meanwhile, let's talk about refugees and people escaping from
the country. The United Kingdom wants to stop small boat
crossings with a new criminal offence, So how are they
going to do this?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 14 (26:44):
We hit a record last year of small boat crossings
from the north of France across the Channel's highly dangerous
route which people smugglers in the past of five six
years have just cottoned onto. And now we're getting tens
of thousands this way each year. The government has said
it was going to set up the new laid government
set up, it was going to have a new sort
of command to try and tackle this. But they've also
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now announced that they're going to bring in a new
criminal offense of up to five years in jail for
endangering lives at sea. The Channel is the busiest shipping
lane in the entire world. Every day there are these
huge tankers going back and forth there and we've seen
several incidents where people have died making this crossing. So
they're trying to make it even tougher. But it seems
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that the real sort of problem they've got is trying
to stop the gangs on the other side and trying
to get France to cooperate to stop the launchers, which
is proving pretty tricky.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
So making a new criminal efint of endangering lives at sea,
will it really with a five year jail to it,
will it really make a difference. I mean they're doing
it anyway, Yeah.
Speaker 14 (27:48):
I mean they are doing it. It's sort of more
the French side that you think where the problems are.
Because the UK gives France millions of pounds for sort
of funding the police. Essentially in France to patrol these
sort of coastlines, which are of course vast, but there
are certain hotspots where these boats launched from. And France,
of course, you've always been the suspicion that actually they're
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sort of not that bothered about these people going off,
even though it is highly dangerous for them.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, the old maximum cut it off at the source
of Vincent Macavelli from Europe. I thank you so much
for your time. It is now eleven to.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Six Andrew dickens.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
So Children's Minister Cantour has reversed an ol Tamariki decision
to pull funding from the Bernardo's helpline, and this comes
after ol ang A Tamariki providers were given very little
notice that their funding would end, which resulted in much
tears approaches by the way that the Auditor General is
looking into. The Minister has told Old Tamariki to pause
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its review of funding and extend existing contracts with providers
until the end of the year. So Bernardo's chief executive
Matt Reed joins me, Now, good morning to you, Matte.
Speaker 15 (28:53):
Good morning injury.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
So a reprieve, but you'd probably argue you shouldn't have
ever been in danger Anyway.
Speaker 15 (29:00):
Oh, Andrew, it's been a really difficult process with Orro
and Tamriki, but I understand their focus on their corresponsibilities.
They've got the hardest job to do, arguably doing the
most important work, so they've you know, there's been a
fiscal squeeze and I've had some tough decisions to make,
so I do understand.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Okay, how are you told about the funding decision being reversed?
Speaker 15 (29:23):
So I've got an email from the Minister's office yesterday morning.
Obviously we were delighted. I eight hundred. What's up as
a really important service for five to nineteen year olds
doing professional counseling for young ones when they need instant
support and advice?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (29:39):
And what's it like trying to get a contract from
Olang and Tamariki? How torturous is it or not?
Speaker 15 (29:45):
I Andrew, Again, it's been a difficult process around contracting,
but again I understand the context. They have a difficult
job there, but there's only so much money and they
are focusing rightfully on care and protection, which is you know,
young people in care and FINO young people close to cares.
So I do understand, and I think the greater challenge.
Here is a whole of government challenge around how these
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other services, particularly prevention early intervention services get funded again.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
Fix it at the source and you don't get bigger
problems down further down the track. So you've got funding
for a year and then the course is up in
the air again. So what can you do with that?
Speaker 15 (30:24):
Well, I think we need to understand a bit more
detail about the announcement yesterday. My reading of it is
that the funding form walks Up will continue beyond this year,
which we're delighted about. For Bernardo's Eartce. We have to
raise the other half of the cost of the service
ourselves through incredible partners like Milford Foundation in OfficeMax and
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amazing New Zealanders and so that call to action is
still there from Bernardo's. We still need support to keep
this really important service going. Obviously the government decision yesterday
has been hugely helpful.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
This community help and altruism is a good thing. So
if someone listening to this wants to give you some
money to do the WhatsApp thing, how could they do that?
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Oh?
Speaker 15 (31:08):
Please look at it. Please look at our website. Contact
anyone at Bernado's contact me personally. But you can go
straight to our website and have a look at the
firstly the incredible work serving thirteen thousand young people every year,
and if you want to support we would obviously be
really thankful for that.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
All right, Matt, go to work. You've got great work
to do, and I thank you so much for your time,
Matt Reid. He is Bernado's Chief executive Mike Hoskins. Here.
Next it is seven to six.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Andrew Dickens on the early edition with one Room, Make
your Property Search Simple used dog Zibby.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
So on the woke banks war on coal. You can't
punish coal until coal is redundant in an economy, and
it's not. So how are we going about getting some
alternatives so that the banks could have a right to
punish coal? Well, apparently New Zealand's largest solar farm will
start construction later this year. Here it's a UK based
energy developer and a company called First Renewables and they're
(32:03):
building it near to Adaha. It's called the Tohey Solar Farm.
Should be completed by twenty twenty six, two hundred and
eighty gigaw hours, enough to supply thirty five thousand homes.
This thing is on one hundred and eighty two hectares.
One hundred and eighty two hectares has an awful lot
of very pretty and productive land around to Abaha. I
don't like a solar farm, to be honest. They take
(32:26):
up a lot of space and they look ugly. So
is that the silver bullet who knows m cole is
here to stay? Mike Hosking has arrived.
Speaker 16 (32:35):
Good morning the solar farms. You got to understand, first
of all, the ugliness is in the eye of the beholder.
Second of all, you can run sheep under them, so
you can still run the land while doing the solar
So there's something in that. But the bank thing this morning,
what I think Shane Jones is giving a speech today
about this, and it seems have you you've seen the letter.
(32:58):
Look at the letter and they're right. The mind don't
want to be named, but they've written to them and said,
so here's the structure of how it's going to work.
We're going to cut your credit cards off and then
we're going to stop you borrowing money. It's not it's
not like you know we we kind of are keen
on the and so let's have a discussion it's just
like this stops now.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
It's water drip torture.
Speaker 16 (33:19):
Slowly, it screws up a business of allaty of all
the things we've discussed this week, about asset sales which
aren't happening, in school lunches, which arrive late, all the
frippery that we seem to obsess ourselves within this country.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
This is a real story.
Speaker 16 (33:32):
This is this is a this is one business looking
to destroy another legitimate business, and somehow that's legal in
this country. And so you've now got a minister who
has to allegedly seemingly pass some law to prevent you
from behaving that way. And you wonder why we've got
no growth and no productivity. I mean, what do you
do anyway? Much more on this this one.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Have a great weekend. My name's Andrew Dickins. I'll be
back again next week. I'm here for a little while
until Heather decides that she's bored and wants to come
back to work. And my thanks to Leonardo, our producer.
Today is his last day and he goes to conquer
Australia on Tuesday, and he goes with our greatest blessings
because he's a good bloke. See it.
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