Full Show Podcast: 03 February 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Digging through the spin to find the real story. Or
it's Ryan Bridge on hither du for ce Ellen Drive
with One New Zealand let's get connected and news talks.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
They'd be good afternoon at the seven after for Todd
McLay on the tariffs this afternoon plus the Trump Insider,
the former US ambassador who is now coaching our incoming
US ambassador. He gives us the lowdown, bad Bath and
beyond find big Bucks. Today we'll find out why Triciusen
and Josie Bagani are on the huddle and Kanye's nude

(00:34):
girlfriend at the Grammys. I've seen the unpixelated photos so
that you don't have.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
To Ryan Bridge.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
In the next few weeks, we should get a political
poll from TV inst And here's a prediction for you.
I'll ask voters if they think the government should it's
it'll last. Voters. I should say whether they think the
government should sell off state owned assets. Do you agree
with the government selling public assets or something like that?
And here's another prediction for you. The majority of Kiwis

(01:03):
will say no, and the media will then go on
a rampage against asset sales and tell us that kiwis
hate them. Another prediction, just while we hear the unions
will get involved. They'll fire out press releases, they'll put
up billboards, they'll tell us that Seymour and Luxon are
going to sell off the family silver and that will
all be worse off, etc. We've seen this before. Another prediction,

(01:24):
asset sales will happen anyway, and people will re elect
National at the next election, knowing full well that they
will go ahead. Why Two reasons. One, we're not ready
to re elect the party that just took the equivalent
of a massive dump on the economy, just yet still reeling. Secondly,
because those pole questions are stupid. I've got a real

(01:45):
problem with them. In fact, I was quite exercised at
the weekend about this, quite upset about this at the weekend,
just getting on a bit of a sort of a rampage.
The pole questions are stupid, and here's why they don't
capture any of the complexity or the nu Once an
example for you, local councils run around shouting from their
moral high horses about cycle ways. And they do this

(02:07):
where I live too, And they tell you that the
community engagement and the polls and the surveys consistently support
the idea of more cycle ways. But when you ask people,
when you speak to people, when you look at the
comments from the people online, there's visceral hatred about cycle ways.
It's all about the question you ask. Would you like

(02:29):
more space for safe cycling in your suburb?

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yes, please, that sounds lovely. Why not would you like
cycle ways to replace the car parks outside all of
your local shops, cut your dairies business in half, ruin
your vehicle commute to work, and spend tens of millions
of dollars in the process. Oh no, thank you, I
think I'll be fine. Same principle goes with asset sales.
You know, if you ask somebody, do you want to

(02:52):
sell off government own assets and enterprises? Nah, that sounds
like kind of a bad idea, selling everything that we own,
What will we have left? But would you like to
sell a bunch of farms that the state owns for
some bizarre reason and runs at a loss of twenty
six million dollars a year that we could make two
billion dollars back from selling to pay for more hospital beds.
Lovely idea. The government owns half a trillion dollars worth

(03:14):
of assets. That's including everything from conservation estates to your
qvs and your land corps. At some point we will
start selling down our stake in some of these assets.
Political caution will dictate which ones and by how much.
And when that happens, the polls, well, we won't really
give a jack. We won't really give a stuff about

(03:36):
what the pole said, then, will we, because it would
have already happened ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
After four Bryan Bridge.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Right, Teenagers, if you've got one, you might know about
this story. They're in search of employment at the moment,
and it's obviously a hard job trying to land a
job with the current employment conditions. Some have been searching.
In fact, there was an example of one over the
weekend in the papers. For as long as two years,
lack of experience has been a main reason for rejection.
But how do you get that if you are never

(04:06):
given a shot in the first place, How on earth
do you get experience without being given a job. Kate
Ross is the founder of Swivel Careers, which helps seventeen
to twenty five year olds fine work. And she's with
me this afternoon.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
Hi, Kate, Hi ran, how's it going?

Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah? Really good. Thank you. Is this something that you're
seeing a lot of young people who you know, they've
got everything going for them, they've got everything, doing everything right,
but it's just not landing.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
I think it's mixed. I think it's tougher now than
what it ever has been before. I mean, it's always
hard for a person leaving school. I mean I left
at sixteen as well, it was past getting works. It's
always hard when you're sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, leaving school going
into the market and finding work because you do really
don't have any experience, so to get experience. Honestly, it's
it about just not giving up. Attitude is number one.

(04:53):
So making sure that you know when you're going into
a potential place of employment that you're coming and well presented.
In fact, encourage people of that young age to actually
walk in and present themselves because it's far better to
be seen in person than what it is on paper.
It's a completely different reflection. So turning up and just
you know, presenting yourself nicely, heading over the CV and
saying listen, I'd like to apply for the role. The

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employer then gets a bit of a look of what
that person is like. And you know, sometimes they can
take them to the back office and have an interview
right then off the cuff. So there's other ways of
doing it. But right now, with the economy as it is,
it is tougher.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
What you mentioned that people should young people should sort
of take initiative and all of that, it sounds like
this particular person I was reading about it the weekend,
it sounds like they were taking all the initiative, applying
for loads of jobs. But if you haven't got a
job in two years of trying, surely there's going to
be something else going on.

Speaker 5 (05:45):
I think to answer that question, well, I would actually
need to have a chat to that person. And also,
you know, see what kind of roles they're applying for.
I'm not saying that person applies for you know, the
wrong job, but you've got to make sure that the
roles you are applying for are aligned to your skill
set or what you want to do, you see what
I mean. And also when you're putting your CV forward

(06:06):
or cover letter forward, making sure that the cover let
or the email if they don't want to read it,
is to actually have the things on that are transferable.
So for example, if someone's looking for a receptionist or
a customer service role. Then you can give experience or
some idea of how you've done that in a limited
way in your past, so there's some kind of transfer
relatable skills. So you know, I'd really have to have

(06:28):
a chat to her to see what she's done to
really have an educated answer.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, when I my first job, I think was when
I was nine, Mum made us get a paper round
and then you went from your paper, you went from
your local paper. You could deliver the evening post. This
was in Wellington, and then you graduate to doing the
milk run, and then you would graduate eventually to be
able to work in a cafe or the supermarket. I mean,

(06:52):
I mean obviously newspapers probably aren't a thing anymore, there's
no one delivering those. But there must be jobs like
that that young people can start with.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
I mean my first job was picking strawberries, which I
think I actually got side from. But anyway, so you know,
there's always some kind of role out there. But right now,
you know, I'm in their defense. Even people leaving university
are really struggling to find their first job, so it's
kind of falling back, you know that there are people

(07:22):
who still be making redundant There're still definitely at uncertainty
in the market. Don't get me wrong. I hope it's
going to be better than last year, but you know,
I have no So many university leavers this year who've
actually packed up and gone to Australia, who have gone
to America, do Camp of America or some kind of
short owe because there's just nothing for them in New
Zealand right now. And that's even in the biggest cities.

(07:45):
Typically the regions do find it harder because obviously it's smaller,
less opportunity, but the biggest cities like Auckland and Wellington
are struggling just as much.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, Kate, thank you very much to that, Kate Ross.
These swivel careers who looks after help seventeen to twenty
five year old old's find work, and the thing that
I mean, you know, if there is no work, then
it's very very difficult to find a job, isn't it. Ryan.
Some people expect everything when they leave school. They expect
the earth. They don't want to start at the bottom.
It sounds to me like this particular individual was willing

(08:16):
to do sort of any paid work wasn't fussy at all,
but it was just having a hard time for some reason.
Nine two ninet two is the number detext What was
your first job? Would love to know and how did
you get it? Quarter past four on News Talk, said
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Speaker 1 (08:30):
Next, it's the Heather du Bussy Alan Drive Full Show
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Speaker 2 (08:39):
News Talks VB. It is eighteen minutes after four lots
of feedback on this Getting your first job, Angela says
she's an employer. Many school leavers eliminate themselves. This is
interesting because they can't say that they are a non
smoker or non vapor which is a requirement for employment
in my food and medical products business. Another one here

(08:59):
from Rapell. Honestly, first teenagers need to get a job
they don't necessarily want, like washing dishes at your local cafe.
Or my son, for example, started his own pet and
plant minding service. It's insane that people need a plant
minding service these days. I suppose I don't want them
to die, do you? Eighteen minutes after four News Talks
evb Ryan Bridge Jason Pines with US sports talk host

(09:20):
seven o'clock tonight on News talk ZBB. Hey Jason, could
I ride night Phille at Woolworth's for me?

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Ah?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
What did that pay?

Speaker 6 (09:31):
Is it not a lot?

Speaker 7 (09:32):
Not a lot? Back at eighty six mot.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I can tell you to Bob and ten pence or something.

Speaker 7 (09:36):
I'm not that long ago.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, how did you get it? Was it through a friend?
Because I got mine?

Speaker 8 (09:42):
You know.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
I basically took all my brother's jobs, my older brother.
Once he would leave one, I would take that one.
That's kind of how it worked for me. And Neff
is basically yep.

Speaker 9 (09:49):
Well, friend at school said hey, I do this, come
and do this, and yeah, a couple of nights a
week went down there in stock shelves.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
It's the good hard work, right. The NFL is bringing
regular season games to Melbourne from next year, that's right.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (10:03):
They've been looking to expand their international presence in recent years.
They've been to the likes of London, Brazil, Germany. Next season,
I think they're going to Real Madrids Stadium in Spain
and back end of twenty twenty six looks like they're
coming to Melbourne. This will be the La Rams and
the Philadelphia Eagles. They've got Australian marketing rights, So yeah,
expanding their footprint I think is the trendy way of

(10:24):
saying it.

Speaker 7 (10:24):
But also they probably think.

Speaker 9 (10:26):
You know what, there are some pretty handy Australian rules
youngsters down in Australia who can kick the ball and
run and are pretty powerful. So maybe they're looking to
attract some young players, some rising stars to the game
as well.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
And Ardis Saviev will be one of Pacific as captain
for twenty twenty five. Do you think he can lift
them into the playoff contention the place they hope to
get to.

Speaker 9 (10:47):
Well, if anybody can, he can. He's very much a
follow me type of leader and he's dragged teams across
the line on more than one occasion when he's been
playing for the Hurricanes and the All Blacks. Look, I'm
not sure he can do this by himself. Last year
on I think have won four games the previous season
just the one in their first season they won two,
So that's seven wins across three seasons.

Speaker 7 (11:07):
That's not playoff form.

Speaker 9 (11:08):
But as I say, if Artie Savier can, you know,
can can be the influence inside that team that he
has been inside the other teams he's been a.

Speaker 7 (11:15):
Part of and leads them out.

Speaker 9 (11:17):
Look, if I'm following Artie savi here House and I'm
by no means a super rugby player, I don't want
to disappoint the man. So look, I do whatever I
can to try and do what he says.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Absolutely, Jason Dank, you look forward to seeing you tonight.
Jason Pines Spook talks host on newstalks 'B It's just
gone twenty after four.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Moving the big stories of the day forward. It's Ryan
Bridge on Hither du for Ce Allen Drive with One
New Zealand Let's Get Connected News TALKSB.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Twenty three after four. Loving these stories from you. On
your first job, Oliver says, my first job is working
for a pharmacy delivering medicine to older people. Used to
push a bike around town for my deliveries. Even saved
an old feller's life and got the job because I've
been going to the same pharmacy since i was a
wee lad. Told them I was looking for one quite simple,
hard a job for young people these days, because there

(12:04):
aren't as many jobs going around and we're at what
four point eight percent unemployment, It's going to hit five
point five supposedly by the middle of the year, so
things will only get worse before they get better. Unfortunately,
twenty four after four now Donald Trump and this executive order.
In fact, there's been three executive orders, and I just
want to run you through exactly what is going on here.

(12:25):
So they could total and this is obviously if they
were sustained, but could total a trillion dollars in tariff
taxes over ten years. This is not insignificant stuff. In fact,
it's the opposite. And he did all of this without
approval from Congress. And you do that if you're a
president by using what they call the International Emergency Economic
Powers Act. It's from nineteen seventy seven. It's been used

(12:47):
for stuff in the past, for stuff like you know,
the Iran hostages crisis, the human rights issues in Venezuela,
North Korea, nuclear weapons actions against and Russia. This is
the type of bill that he is using, act that
he is using to enact his tariffs, and it basically

(13:10):
gives a president carte blanche to freeze or block transactions.
And it's in response. The wording is it has to
be in response to unusual or extraordinary threats. So what
on earth are they? I hear you asking from allies
like Canada especially well, he has said, because you can't
just come out and say I'm doing economic tariffs on

(13:31):
this country because it's going to benefit us x y z.
That's not okay. You would need congressional approval for that.
So he's saying, ah, it's national security. So fentanyl for Mexico,
fentanyl for Canada migrants across the border from Mexico, and
for China, he's saying it's fentanyl production. So he's saying

(13:51):
that's where it's all being cooked up, and that basically
he's been able to lump them in with the like
you know, you're throwing allies like Canada and with the
likes of Venezuela and Russia and China in order to
get this done. But he has there will be a call,
we're told in the next few hours, a call between
Mexico the presidents and Donald Trump, and also between Trudeau

(14:15):
and Donald Trump. But really, I mean, what is that
going to achieve? He's the other thing is he hasn't
put any metrics on this. He hasn't said, if you
reduce ventanyl by x y z, or if we have
so many fewer fentanyl deaths then you know you can
start training again. It's all back on. He hasn't said that,
so no one really knows what the barometer of success
is here, which is worrying, worrying for everybody, really, isn't

(14:39):
it just gone twenty six minutes after four after the
news at fall thirty, We're going to Australia. We've got
our Australia correspondent. Lots to talk about. In fact, Elbow's
doing a stand up at the moment on cost of living.
Job's not done, he says. And the latest on the
floods in North Queen's I'm coming your way to news talks.

(15:01):
It by.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
You're wrong.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Nothing, recapping the day's big news and making tomorrow's headlines.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
It's Ryan Bridge on Hither duple see Alan drive.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
With one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
It'd be.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Joy joy jolly, come on, you don't come home good
afternoon twenty five away from five News Talks. This is
Joe Lean by Beyonce from the album Cowboy Carter. It's
just won the Best Country at the Grammy Awards. She's
up the Best Album. Don't know if she's won that year.

(16:09):
I tell you who's getting the award for most dramatic
of the meural races and that's Auckland. At the moment,
apparently Wayne Brown wants Desley's Simpson to stand down as
his deputy after she you know, there was the old
snaffoo on Friday we told you about where her son
had gone and registered the domain Desley for mayor dot

(16:29):
co dot nz. She claims it was disco a laugh. Obviously,
Wayne Brown's not buying it. We'll have more on that
during the show two twenty five to five.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
It's the World Wires on news Dogs, Eddy.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Drive, trade walls on Trump hit Mexico, Canada and China.
Canada's hit back. Mexico is about to and China is strategizing.
Here is Trudeau Lake the American Terris.

Speaker 6 (16:52):
Our response will also be far reaching.

Speaker 10 (16:55):
And include every day items such as American Beer Line, Bourbon,
fruits and fruit juices and Little Orange Juice.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Floodwaters have been rising for the third day in a
row in North Queensland. One woman has died in the flooding.
Towns have been evacuated and more than ten thousand properties
have no power. Here's the Queensland Premiere.

Speaker 11 (17:16):
It's been an amazingly monsoonal event, and we just want
Queenslanders to first and foremost look after themselves and then
the recovery will begin in the days ahead once that
water starts dissipating.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Finally, this afternoon Ozzie golfer Jason Day has been criticized
for his choice of attire at the Pebble Beach Pro
am in California. He hit the links in a gray
sweatshirt and matching a gray trousers. Some tweeters have accused
him of looking like a slob. Some have called it
an insult to the game. I wouldn't have a look
at the outfit. Can't really see what the problem is

(17:52):
other than it's a little baggy. Normally a golfer's a
tire would be a little tighter around the you know,
the legs and everything. I couldn't the problem with.

Speaker 12 (18:01):
I think if you look at most golfing attire, Ryan like,
it's not the sort of thing that I could genuinely
walk out of my bedroom having woken up in the
morning and be wearing and it had just everyone to
be like, oh, yeah, that's clearly what Ann slept in.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
But it's the same style of clothing. It's just loose fishing.

Speaker 12 (18:16):
Yeah, yeah, but it is also clearly a sweatshirt and
track pants that he went to bed and then woke
up and went and hit the linkside.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Oh you don't think he went to bed. I'm probably
not sure about that. In any case, her dance site
better than Kanye's girlfriend at the Grammys. We'll have more
on that. She was wearing nothing.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind
for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Oliver Patterson six pr pers Line presented with US. Oliver,
Welcome to the show. Good to have you on GID
A Ryan. What's the latest on the floods in North Queensland.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
Oh, that deluge is just quite unbelievable.

Speaker 13 (18:48):
Six months of rain they are saying within three days,
for example, the Herbert River at the Ingham Pump station
could reach fifteen meters today, which is just enormous. In
four hundred and eighty odd requests for assistance and eleven
swift water rescues right across the region so far. North
Queensland is really suffering under this monsoonal rainfall that you

(19:12):
just played in the world Wise, one person has died,
four hundred people are currently taking shelter in six evacuations.
It is across the region. There are some towns without power.
Now you've got major supermarkets obviously closed and or isolated
by floodwaters, so there's no chance of this drying up
anytime soon. It's just battened down the hatches and hope

(19:32):
that many residents there in Far North Queensland are going
to be okay. But the pitches that are being splashed
across television screens here in Australia quite confronting. We've seen,
for example, a bridge which is between Ingham and Townsville
along the Bruce Highway. It's just split in half and
you can see the water running through the middle of

(19:53):
the bridge. So yeah, it's a difficult time obviously Ryan
for Far North Queensland residents. It's a difficult time as
well for those working in the ESAs to actually respond
to requests for help.

Speaker 6 (20:03):
So just keep your fingers and toes crossed. Everyone will
be okay.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
And the federal government that's on the issue of terrorism
obviously something that's a big issue there at the moment.
To pen New South Wales, they're now going after a
neo Nazi network.

Speaker 13 (20:17):
Yeah they are, and obviously parliaments about the seat and
resume for the next two weeks. It's believed in fact,
this could be the last two weeks ryan before we
head towards a federal election. But we've heard from Penny Wong,
the Foreign Affairs Minister, that it will now be a criminal.

Speaker 6 (20:32):
Offense to use or deal with any of.

Speaker 13 (20:35):
The assets from terror Gram. Now this is what they're
calling terragram I telegram that many people have been sending
messages from. They have now come to a decision to
put some financing sanctions on groups who they believe are
associated with white supremacists and their ability to combat anti Semitism.

(20:55):
As you mentioned, they're particularly in Sydney and Melbourne.

Speaker 6 (20:59):
There are space andy Semitic Gatashi actually.

Speaker 13 (21:01):
Had one here in Perth where I am over the
weekend on a house in the western suburbs of Perth,
which is sort of the wealthy area of Perth. There
was a big graffiti of f the Jews. So this
is not obviously going down well in Australia at the moment,
and many.

Speaker 6 (21:14):
People are looking for more leadership from the front.

Speaker 13 (21:16):
So I'm sure that the Prime Minister will be asked
about this in question time as he faces the music
in Federal Parliament.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
New South Wales transport ministers had to apologize for booking
a ministerial car to drive her and some friends out
to lunch at a winery.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
This is sack of all material.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
How is this right?

Speaker 13 (21:36):
She is up in the Hunt of Valley, so she's
a good two and a half hours away from the
Sydney CBD.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
On Australia Day, of all days.

Speaker 13 (21:44):
She summons a car which, by the way, under the
rules you can use a ministerial car for private purposes.
The car drives from Sydney to the Hunt of Valley,
takes her and some friends, including the Housing minister whose
name is Rose Jackson, out for lunch. And it cost
seven hundred and fifty bucks. Right, that's what it costs
to hire this car just so she could go with
her girlfriends to have a boozy lunch. Now, this is

(22:06):
a cost of seven hundred and fifty bucks. As I said,
thirteen hour shift on Australia day, a four hundred and
forty six kilometers round trip, just so the driver could
take her from Hunter Valley out to a Hunter Valley winery.
As I pose the question, Ryan, what does it take
to get sacked anymore when you're a minister of the crowd.
I mean, anybody would say this doesn't pass the pub test,

(22:27):
but on Astralia Day long weekend she has to be kidding.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
Do you know what sort of cars they get show
from round them?

Speaker 6 (22:33):
I think she had no.

Speaker 13 (22:35):
This one was a Kia Carni or you know Keya. Yeah,
one of those kind of minibuses if you like the
seven seaters. Nothing too looking, but non you imagine being
the driver, imagineing that call Ryan, how you gotta go
pick up you know, this minister up in the hut
of valley and take her out to lunch.

Speaker 6 (22:51):
It'd be spitting chips.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Imagine the chat on the way home. Hey, thank you
very much for that. Oliver Oliver Peterson XPR Perth Live
presenter with us with all the news you need to
know from Australia. Eighteen minutes away from five, we're trying
to get hold of Disley Simpson. Is she going to announce?
She was apparently pondering it said, oh no, no, no,
that was just a joke. My son hiring the you know,

(23:14):
licensing the website Disley FORMEA dot co dot MZ However,
she has since said that she's she's not saying no
at this point. So is Wayne Brown going to force
her hand? As I said on Friday, I think it's
a terrible thing if she does this, because if you're
somebody who's on the right of politics, then you're going

(23:35):
to split the vote. Disley Simpson associated with the National Party,
Wayne Brown man of the right. More than anything, You're
going to split the vote and it in comes some
Johnny come lately from the left. Michael Wood, you know,
I mean to take your pick seventeen to five.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Politics with centrics, credit, check your customers and get payments.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Certaindy, you're on news talk z B. It's quarter to five,
so you apparently Simpson thinking about running from here of Auckland,
and Bernie has texted and say, hey, Ryan, has Michael
would because I said maybe he'd come in and deal
with the vote splitting on as Michael would sold those
airports shares yet and probably not. Barry Soaper is here. Hey, Barry, Ryan,

(24:17):
see you.

Speaker 7 (24:17):
It was nice to be back for such a long break.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
I must say you're looking actually quite festive with your
summer shirt on. You're almost as bad as Chris Hopkins who.

Speaker 7 (24:26):
Came back because Christmas. That's my problem.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Hey, do you think Dear's going to run?

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (24:33):
Yeah, I think she will, almost.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Certain, but it's she'll split the vote waiting.

Speaker 7 (24:38):
I think. I just hope that she learns to put
the sunglasses on her nose and not on the top
of her head. It seems rain, hail or shine, she's
got those bloody sunglasses on top of her head.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
If you're going to spend fifteen hundred dollars on a
pair of sunglasses, Berry, everybody needs to see that, probably, hey,
Lux And finally telling he who's going to be on
White Tonguey Day.

Speaker 7 (25:01):
Yes, it's interesting because an Akarah, I mean not known
for violent protest against the treaty on Treaty Day, but
he's going to be there with the Governor General. Cindi
Kiro is going down there as well. And Akia has
a population of under eight hundred, but it is the

(25:22):
oldest town in Canterbury, was settled by Europeans in eighteen forty,
the same year as we know that the treaty was signed.
But he's not going to get much of a fight
with Naitahu, who will be hosting them in the small town.
But it's an interesting choice, isn't it when you consider that. Look,
there are other places that maybe you could get a

(25:44):
bit of profile and a bit more debate, but that's
going to get in Akara.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
That's exactly what he doesn't want it. I mean, he's
basically running to the other side of of the country. Well,
you know I'm running.

Speaker 7 (25:56):
But I've got to say. The way the people are
talking up at white Tongey as they all always do,
a head of it, saying, look, politicians, reception is going
to be hot. We're told by a man called Tippany,
who is one of the organizers up there, and they
warn the politicians every time before they go there that
they're going to get a rowdy reception. If you're a politician,

(26:19):
why would you bother? Winston Peters is going. David Seymour,
the architect of the Treaty Settlement's bill, he's going to
be there, and good luck to him. I think he
should go on front up and this has got exactly
what David Seymour wants, and that's debate on the treaty.
So good thing.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
This is Raeli newspaper, so we were talking about this
last week. It was the visit of visa and the
soldier coming here apparently denied entry on the basis of
being a soldier. Whatever these read newspaper now correcting the story.

Speaker 7 (26:49):
Well, it took them a long time, didn't it. I
mean it caused an international uproar, which is extraordinary for
a story when you consider that in his if you're
a male or a female, you're required to do military
service of up to thirty six months. So everybody that
comes here from Israel above a certain age will have

(27:11):
done military service somewhere, So why should we put them
to any other test. I think that argument has sort
of been lost in this whole thing. And Winston Peters
has been accused of trump Ism for saying it was
fake news. Well, indeed, it was fake news. They said
that when they must have known full well that New

(27:33):
Zealand had not changed its visa requirements for anyone, and
neither it'joed for Palestinians nor for Israeli.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Yeah, but that kind of story has the potential to
do real damage to our reputation in America. Right, And
when I saw Ted Cruz oh treating about it, I thought, Oh.

Speaker 7 (27:49):
Shed cru saying we're not ollies. Well, first information. I mean,
we've always been seen as very very close friends until
God Eliza Rice came and battered Islands Winston Peters at
one stage and she said, we're back to the ally
status again. Well if that, if Ted Cruise has got
his way, we're not even there yet.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
I know, changes to the benefit system, the traffic light system,
we've had a couple of changes.

Speaker 7 (28:15):
Yeah, and look they're not that significant really when you
think about it. They're going to there's a bill before
Parliament at the moment. These changes will be part of that.
And look, if you're unemployed, you should be off your
butt out looking for work. So anybody that's a naysayer
on this one, I think you know they're pushing the

(28:36):
wrong barrow if you like. And of course they're always ah,
you've got Riccardo Mendez March. He's having the standoff with
Shane Jones at the moment. The Green MP says it's
another punitive measure that would punish beneficiaries deeper and push
them deeper into hardship.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
See does he really think that they're doing it as punishment. Honestly,
it's it's it's designed to try and help them to
get off the thing.

Speaker 7 (29:06):
To apply for jobs, to do some training. It was
interesting you saying, I think you had the same apprenticeship
as me. It sounds like the paper run. I had
a paper run. The gore end sign I used to deliver.
It used to be called the Materian sign on those days.
Then I went on and I did the milk run,
running around with the milk bottles, keep fit. And then

(29:26):
I worked in a tobacco shop, and then in J. T.
Sharp and Sons, a men'swear store. All this was available
to us before we left school.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
I loved it.

Speaker 7 (29:36):
It was great.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
There you're good.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Great.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
So you've got to start somewhere, don't you. And you
start close to home, which is you know, not just
the paper run. Hey, thanks for that, Barry.

Speaker 7 (29:45):
Nice to be back.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Great to have you back, and great to see you.
Barry Soper. News Talks here, be senior political correspondent. It
is nine to five on News Talks here, but don't
forget Todd McClay. After five, we're going to ask them
all about the so called t trade war between the States, Mexico, China, Canada.
What does it mean for us?

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 14 (30:10):
We wes tariffs are underway from Mexico, Canada and China,
with more to count form of trade negotiated. Charles finnedback
with US.

Speaker 15 (30:16):
I think it is more extreme than what we saw
during the first Trump presidency.

Speaker 14 (30:21):
Where do we fit in irony being Let's announced that
suddenly they're the second biggest trading partner. We've got beating
out Australia now and we don't even have a deal.

Speaker 15 (30:28):
Luckily, there's been no talk of tariff's being composed on
New Zealand. There is still talk about a global tariff,
but that would be very problematic in the US law.
I don't think it can be implemented by executive order.
At the breast for US in the short term is
that there's going to be a whole lot of trade
clad's distructed, but there will be some opportunities there as well.

Speaker 14 (30:47):
Back tomorrow at six am, the mic Hosking Breakfast with
the Rain drove of the last news talk z B.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Five to five inflation, So we had the CPI number
you know about that. Today we got inflation from Stats
in z It's called household living cost Price index and
this looks at different groups because obviously, when inflation happens,
we give you the you know it's two and a
half percent whatever that's on average across a basket of goods,
it doesn't tell you how it will affect you and

(31:14):
your household. So what this does is break it up
into thirteen different groups. So we know that the highest
earners their inflation for the year was two point seven percent,
the average three percent, and the worst affected three point
six percent. Now that was your pensioness, so their inflation
was three point six percent. Insurance, rates and rent made

(31:37):
up the biggest increase for them. Then you've got your
beneficiaries three point three percent. Biggest contributors for them rent
four and a half percent, then cigarettes and tobacco seven
point seven percent, then rates, and for Mardi it was
up three point one percent. Their biggest contributors rent, interest, cigarettes,

(31:57):
and tobacco, because of course the taxes on those go
up every year, so it's always sort of creeps its
way in there. Anyway, the highest earners two point seven percent.
For them, interest, insurance and rates unsurprisingly made up the
largest or worthy largest contributor to their increase. So there
you go, and the CPA, because the CPI just gives

(32:19):
you the number that for the whole country doesn't really
mean much. This kind of gives you some context to it,
which is quite interesting. Todd McLay is next. This is
the pop singer Sabrina Carpenter and she's just got herself
a few awards at the Grammys today. Her album Shortened
Sweet one Best Pop Vocal Album and this song Espresso
Best Solo Performance. Todd McLay next, and.

Speaker 16 (33:19):
What's the best.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Questions answers, facts analysis?

Speaker 3 (33:28):
The Drive show you trust for the full picture?

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Brian Bridge on Heather Duplicy allan drive with one New
Zealand let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
That'd be good evening. It's five oh seven. Great to
have your company this evening. The New Zealand stock market
was down about one and a half percent almost two
percent at low point today. This reacting to Donald Trump's
tariffs on Canada, Mexico and China. The New Zealand company
Fisher and Pipel Healthcare announced its costs would increase as
a result. That's because about forty percent of their products

(33:58):
are made in Mexico for the US market, so they
are affected by that. This she has finished the day
down six point eight percent. Top acclaims the Trade minister
he's with me, good evening, Ryan, heyst Did you expect
him to go as far as he did.

Speaker 17 (34:14):
Well, Look, I think it's fair to say it was
campaigned on, it's been pretty well signaled, so not surprised
by it at all. Twenty five percent tariffs against Mexico
and against Canada, a lesser amount for China. The very
interesting thing, I think, and this is probably nuanced as
he said, these will go on unless so. The President

(34:35):
of America has said he is concerned about what's happening
at their borders with those two countries, and it's obviously
he wants them to engage and to make some many
full changes there. But in the meantime they're facing tariffs which,
whilst we're not directly captured, is going to have an
impact upon some New Zealand businesses.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Canada, Canada and Mexico and China are obviously speaking out
complaining Will we support them in their complies?

Speaker 17 (35:03):
Well, firstly, we're focused on what's happening in our relationship
with the US and any impact that there could be,
you know, for New Zealand exporters, I think it's important
to note that we've always had a very positive, constructive
relationship with US. The difference in our trade with America
compared to those three countries is it's a very well balanced.
We buy and sell very similar amounts of trade and

(35:26):
investment in both directions, and therefore I think we're in
a very very different camp and they are. But there's
been a lot of contact at official level with the
new administration. Prime Minister Luxen has spoken with President Trump directly,
which was very constructive, and the Foreign Minister recently had
ongoing and detailed conversations with his counterparts. So we are

(35:46):
talking to them about the importance of the relationship and
how balanced the trade is, and we're just going to
keep doing that for New Zealand exports.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
We'd be stupid to join forces in sing in chorus
with Canada, or with Mexico or with China. Albeit we
support free trade because we don't want to make ourselves
a target, do we? But at some point, you know,
we remember of the wto China is taking a case
there do we have in a position?

Speaker 17 (36:09):
Yeah, well, we'll wait and see exactly what that case is.
I mean, China themselves are doing an investigation and a
beef into their market, of which we are providing information
because we're an export of beef there.

Speaker 18 (36:22):
I think.

Speaker 17 (36:22):
I think in as far as the W is concerned,
there have always been issues around trade. They come up
a lot, and they come up very very often, and
ultimately where it's in New Zealand's interest and we have
a role to play or we're involved, we do take
our position to speak up to today though our exporters
are asking us to focus on that relationship with the
US and make sure that we not only have reached

(36:43):
out to the new administration, we are promoting the very
fair and balanced way that New Zealand trades with the US.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
We're going to get a meeting there soon, but they
are with lux and do you think or with.

Speaker 17 (36:53):
This, well, there are opportunities during the course of this
year in as far as trades concerned. My counterpart, the
USTR Trade representative career, he's not in place yet, he's
still going to go through the confirmation and so in
the moment that he has I have the ability to
talk to him. Interestingly, he was part of the Trump
administration and trade last time President Trump was the president,

(37:15):
I was a Trade Minister then as well, and we
faced similar sorts of things that were tariffs against Mexico
and America and Mexico and Canada. Then you remember they
pulled out of the CPTPP that you know, New Zealand's
the forefront with We were able to build a good
relationship with that administration, and again based upon New Zealand
respecting rules and actually you know, the trade being very

(37:36):
very balanced. We'll be doing everything we can to make
sure they're aware of that of the US and as
soon as my counterparty is confirmed, me seeking at the
very least a good positive telephone conversation with him.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
I've got Scott Brown on, former US Ambassador to New
Zealand from you know, former US ambassadors to New Zealand.
He's coming on the show after six and he's told
me just before we came on, he said he thinks
we should be going for an FTA even with Trump
and because of that balance of trade that you've been
talking about.

Speaker 17 (38:04):
Well, we're free traders and we believe in a rules
based approach. You've seen last year we've done two deals
very very quickly, in surprise people actually with the UAE,
and that one was the golf states the GCC. You know,
after a long time still talking.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
You'd still push, you know, even though it's Trump, and
even though he likes a tariff, you're still push for
an FDA.

Speaker 17 (38:23):
Well, what I was going to say is the likelihood
of an FDA with the US is not strong. We'll
be talking about ways to grow to a trade that's
beneficial for the two economies. I don't expect we would
have an FDA, so it's probably not going to be
the first thing I'll raise with them when I get
my call in.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Thanks for your time, Todd. Todd and played the trade minister.
It's just gone twelve after five. Ryan Bridge, bed Bath
and Beyond Being Naughty fined two hundred and thirty thousand
dollars for selling children's pajamas and hot water bottles that
didn't meet safety requirements. So this is the story. The
non compliant pajamas and hot water bottles were sold between
March and October of twenty two. Here is the really

(39:02):
interesting bit, the reasons these products were so dangerous. The
pajamas didn't have fire hazard information printed on them gasp,
and the hot water bottles didn't include any instructions about
safe usage and storage. The Comments Commission took this case
to court. Vanessa Horn is the commission General manager of Competition,

(39:22):
Fair Trading and Credit, and she's with me this evening,
good evening, Hi, Ryan, Is this serious?

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yeah? It is. So.

Speaker 8 (39:32):
You know, parliaments decided there were a few products safety
standards on some consumer products that particularly those ones that
have a detrimental impact for children, and night wears one
of those things, and so we do take it very seriously.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
What is that So the pajamas didn't have a fire
hazard label printed on them? Are they a fire hazardicular?
They particularly?

Speaker 10 (39:56):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Right?

Speaker 6 (39:57):
So yeah, your bag on.

Speaker 8 (39:59):
So so there's a NightWare standard that particularly focuses on
the pajamas that kids wear, and there's a label requirement,
mainly for parents, so that they know that that particular
pair of pajamas might be more flammable than another. The
reason why that's really important is that we still have

(40:19):
quite a lot of open fireplaces in New Zealand and
we want to make sure that those kids who you know,
have got more flammable pajamas, you know, they know not
to go next to the fireplace in winter time.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Right, Okay, And what about the other issue, the hot
water bottles, no instructions about safe usage and storage. I mean,
is that not obvious? Fill it with hot water, you know,
be careful it's hot water.

Speaker 8 (40:43):
Yeah, it's really interesting. And bed Bath and Beyond sold
twenty three thousand of these that in that period a
couple of winters ago. So again, the hot water bottle
standard basically tries to remind people to, you know, check
that hot water bottle at the start of each winter,
sort of like what we all do with electric blankets

(41:04):
as well, to make sure that that hot water bowl.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Is still safe to use.

Speaker 8 (41:08):
We often here at the start of winter, particularly old
people who have you know, might use their hot water
bottle from the previous year or maybe even from five
years ago, and it's warped and that the hot water
goes straight through it and they get burnt.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Vanessa, thank you for that. The Commerce Commission. This is
Vanessa Horn. She took the case. Commerce Commission General Manager
of Competition, Fair Trading and Credit took the case against
bed Bath and Beyond. They are now bad Bath and
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Speaker 3 (42:34):
Spry and Bridge.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
The Grammys will get to the half not even half naked,
completely naked woman at the Grammys in a second but
they're under the underway in Hollywood right now. Number of
artists have taken to the stage. This is Sabrina Carpenter,
who won Best Pop Vocal Album. Beyonce, she's there, She's

(43:10):
proven well there's nothing she can't do, including winning Best
Country Album. Here's a reaction.

Speaker 16 (43:15):
I think sometimes genre is a cold word to keep
us in our place as artists, and I just want
to encourage people to do what they're passionate about.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Beyonce should win everything because she can both sing and
dance at the same time, which half of these people,
including Taylor Swift, can't. But I'll move on Best New
Artists went to Chapel Rohn. Is that how you say it?
She sent a strong message to the record labels.

Speaker 19 (43:39):
I told myself, if I ever won a Grammy and
I got to stand up here in front of the
most powerful people in music, I would demand that labels
and the industry profiting millions of dollars off of artists,
would offer a livable wage in healthcare, especially to developing artists.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Right host Trevenoah made a special mention of the LA wildfires.

Speaker 20 (44:02):
Everybody in Los Angeles and building tonight, you know, working
on stage and off knows somebody who has lost their home,
their business, or the lives that they knew less than.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
A month ago.

Speaker 20 (44:11):
And I just want everybody to remember what this moment was.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Like, Yeah, it is worth remembering. But the big award
of the night Album of the Year, we're not sure
about you. Sean Mandel is our entertainment reporter in La
Sean Giddey, gooday, how are you?

Speaker 15 (44:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Good?

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Thank you? Have we got that top award that gong
yet No, we.

Speaker 21 (44:31):
Are waiting on it right now. It is going to
be any moment. We've just heard some big categories beginning
to come out. As you mentioned, Beyonce had a big
moment tonight, big surprising moment, winning Country Album of the Year.
She seemed very much genuinely shocked. So that was a

(44:52):
really heartwarming moment. And we're going to be waiting to
see here who takes home that top prize in our
the year.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Speaking of tops, somebody turned up without one all bottoms
for that matter, Kanye West's girlfriend. Apparently they were kicked
out even though he was nominated for an award. Can
you talk us through this?

Speaker 21 (45:12):
Yeah, so really interesting turn of events this evening. Some
different conflicting reporting in terms of what happened about why
they were escorted out. No official word yet from the
Recording Academy, but the moment occurred after they walked the
red carpet with Bianca Sensory, Kanye West's girlfriend known for

(45:35):
oftentimes wearing let's call it daring fashion or pieces of
it anyway, and not wearing very much in fact on
the red carpet today. So that definitely got a lot
of heads turning. But it's not something that we've seen
yet in We didn't see it in the Grammy Hall

(45:56):
in the Crypto dot Com Arena in downtown la As.
They did not make it into that part of the show, right.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
I mean, because you know, to be honest, the Grammy's
all of these awards, it's almost like the goal is
to wear as little as possible. Anyway, I thought, well,
in some ways, I thought, credit to her for just
just doing it what everybody else clearly wants to do,
and just take all of your clothes off.

Speaker 21 (46:23):
I mean she leaned in.

Speaker 2 (46:25):
She certainly did, and I mean she looked great doing it.
So good on her, all right, Sean, have we got
an album of the unit yet? Not yet? We'll have
to come back.

Speaker 18 (46:33):
No, not yet.

Speaker 21 (46:33):
We're still about eight minutes out from the end. That's
of everything keeps going on time, So we are still
a few minutes out there, but shortly we will be.
We will be getting a winner, and you know, all
eyes are on Beyonce. She is the front runner right now,
so it'll be I think a bigger The biggest surprise

(46:54):
will be if Beyonce doesn't win.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Good to hear Sean Sean Mandel is that entertainment reporter
in l A great to have you on Beyonce. We'll
be wearing clothes because she's a class act. I just
I do think, you know, especially when you're talking about
pop music, that ability to both sing and dance at
the same time and breathe and do it all with conviction.
I think that that's worth an award. Taylor Swift sits

(47:19):
down most of the time. I mean, honestly. Twenty three
after five News Talks.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
MB Informed Inside into today's issues. It's Ryan Bridge on
Hither Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand Let's get connected.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
News Talks NB.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Five twenty six. So as we previewed on Friday, the
trade war has kicked off. Trump's hit Canada, Mexico, and
to a lesser extent, China. So far, Canada has hit
back Mexico's promising to do the same, though as it
hasn't identified any targets, and it won't stop there because
if you read his executive orders, Trump has left the
door open to more retaliation. To the retaliation. This is

(47:58):
eye for an eye stuff and we all know how
Trump likes a fight. The real question is who wins
in a trade war. The answer, of course, is nobody.
Canadian factories will close. Tariffs will go on every single
little tiny widget that's imported from these three countries, not
just finished goods, in services. So the little screw that
tightens the engine that's assembled in America will go up

(48:22):
in price as well. So stuff that's made in America
will increase in price because of what they import to
put in it. These three countries account for forty percent
of imports to the United States. Sure it will create
some local jobs, but you'll then be hit with higher prices.
America has been the driver of global growth over the
past few years, so if their demand starts wavering as

(48:45):
stuff becomes more expensive, and with China and Europe Week
at the moment, then we will lose. It's why we
spend the eighties and nineties knocking down tariffs quicker than
the Berlin Wall. Each country, in theory has a competitive
advantage in make something. For us. It's been high quality,
carbon efficient farming as an example. So doing away with

(49:07):
subsidies and terrorists which distort markets encourages investment, innovation, specialization.
You get really good at doing something and then selling
it to the world. Free trade is one of the
most important economic developments that this country has ever seen.
And in Trump's world, it's an idea. Sadly that's under threat,

(49:30):
and that is not a good thing for any of us.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
Cryanbridge.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Twenty eight minutes after five, We'll take you back to
the Grammys. This is Kendrick Lamar. He's one Record of
the Year at the Grammys. Apparently, is this Kendrick Lamar. Oh,
this is Chapel Roone. I've got the wrong one. Oh,
this is Chapel Roone. She is your best new artist,

(49:56):
which is why I've never heard of him before. Twenty
eight after five News Talks EDB. We're talking Palmi and
fizzy drinks.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Next on the iHeart app and in your car on
your drive home, it's Ryan Bridge on Heather dupers Allen
Drive with one New Zealand Let's get connected.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
News Talks edber.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Good Evening, twenty four minutes away from six News Talks V.
This is rapper Kendrick Lamar. He's one Record of the
Year at the Grammys. Now that's not the same as
Album of the Year. We were talking up album of
the Year earlier. We don't know who that is just yet.
This is Record of the Year, which is a different award.
The story is too long to be bothered with, to
be honest, but his song not Like Us has beaten Beyonce,

(50:46):
Billie Eilish and even the Beatles to take out the
major award. Unfortunately, this is not not Like Us? And
why would we not play you not Like Us? It's
filled with too many swear words apparently, so it wouldn't
be appropriate. It is twenty three away.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
From sex Ryan Bridge.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Palmerston North Mayor Grant Smith has spoken out against a
proposal to ban the sale of fizzy drinks. It's some
major sport venues in the city. Council staff put the
proposal to the council as a way of improving oral
health in the region. The mayor says people should be
able to make their own decisions about what they can
purchase and drink. Now, Brent Barnett, Sorry, Brent Barrett is

(51:25):
a Palmeston North City councilor and he is with me
this evening. Hello, Brent, Hey, how are you going good?
Thank you? Whose mad idea was this?

Speaker 4 (51:35):
Yeah, So we've taken a proposal out to the community
and it strengthens a position that we were in in
twenty seventeen. And the reason for that is that we
know there's a direct line between sugar and the kind
of pressure that comes on our health system through writing
to use diabetes, et cetera. We want to see is
their community appetite for any kind of change?

Speaker 2 (51:54):
So do you support the change? Do you support banning
you know, a coke zero a coke or a pepsi
or whatever the council venues.

Speaker 4 (52:03):
I'd like to see us find ways to reduce the
harm that sugar causes in the community. So I'm open
to options there, and I appreciate the community feedback here.
It's given me some thinking about some way as we
might approach it.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
But how so, because a lot of people are talking
about the children and their teeth, the tooth decay. How
is stopping someone having a coke at the Palmerston North
Convention s into going and fix that problem?

Speaker 3 (52:26):
Do you think.

Speaker 4 (52:28):
What it's going to do is a couple of things.
It would, if it goes ahead, send a signal out
broadly to the community that hey, just another reminder these
things aren't the healthiest and that's probably the strongest thing
that it would do. And obviously it would change what
would happen in the venue itself.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Aren't you just killing the fun?

Speaker 4 (52:50):
I think what we're doing at this point is listening
to the community. So the communities come back to so
what their preferences are. Am I thinking is that we
need to listen to that so it won't happen to
what eruptions will take because it's like won't.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
But it's like it's eighty percent again, So if you're listening,
then the answer would be a big wouldn't it.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Well?

Speaker 4 (53:12):
I think sometimes what you're faced with is that the
right thing isn't always the popular thing. And I'm coming
to the meeting with an open minded march and see
where the debate goes.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
Well, that's a big one. Thank you very much for that.
Nice to have you on the program. That's Brent Barrett.
He's the Palmeerston North City councilor sometimes the right thing
isn't always the popular thing. Twenty one to six.

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Speaker 2 (53:39):
Tris Shurson Hurson Willis pr Is with us tonight. Hi Trish, Hi,
Ryan and Josie PEGANI child fun Ceo is here too, Hey,
Josie Cura, Hellojuda. Good to have you on the show.
So let's start with that, should we the fizzy drinks?
Oh yes, let's Josie. So I get annoyed by this stuff,
but I mean I'm quick to anger on, particularly coke zero,

(54:01):
which I know wouldn't technically be caught. What are your thoughts?

Speaker 22 (54:06):
Yeah, I mean one argument is that this is good
fun for all the family, brought to you by your
local organic military gym homeopaths. I mean, it's sort of
fun police gone extreme. But there's a more important point.
I think that it's this is just a really bad
way to address the problem that he thinks he's trying
to address. I kids drinking too many fizzy drinks and

(54:26):
sweets and sugar and so on. Because if you're going
to say that everything bad for you or everything that's
not good for you is the equivalent of a cigarette,
I you should never ever ever have it, then you're
it's not not going to work.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Right.

Speaker 22 (54:40):
So we're all going to have a fizzy drinks sometimes.
And the place that you have it is places like
sports stadiums, a day out with a family. You know, hey,
get some chips, get some chippies and have a hot dog,
and yep, you can have a coke. If you're going
to make people feel bad about a treat, then you're
not going to get them to go. But business as
usual every day. We're not going to have fizzy drinks

(55:00):
and takeaways in KFC and whatnot. So yeah, it's just
it's just not effects. That's the thing that really gets me.
It's like, you're just and he sounds so smug. Oh
my god, he sounds so smug. It's not an effective
way of dealing with the problem he thinks he wants
to deal with.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Yes, but sometimes the right thing is not the popular thing.

Speaker 23 (55:17):
Trish, Yeah, yeah, said every politician who ever got voted out.
You know what this isn't This is an idea that's
absolutely gone flat, excuse the pun. And what makes me
smile here is that obviously these guys on the and
woman on the Palmerston North City Council, they have absolutely

(55:38):
missed the memo from their immediate past president Simmy and Brown,
past Minister Simmy and Brown, who has given very clear
guidelines to counsels that he wants them to get off
of the stuff, swim in their own lane. And these guys,
instead of worrying about who's having a coke at the rugby,

(56:00):
they should be worried about what's the quality of the
road to.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
Drive to the rugby?

Speaker 23 (56:04):
Are they looking after the potholes, the water, the rubbish,
the stuff that their rate payers really expect them to do.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Yeah, it's And interestingly, Josie, this is part of which
I didn't existed, but part of a health policy. Should
a council have a bloody health policy?

Speaker 3 (56:19):
No?

Speaker 22 (56:20):
I mean, if you think it's realistic that every child
is going to eat raw carrots and drink water every
day of the week, then you know, I don't know
what planet they're living on. So you've got to have something.
You've got to do the best things first. What's the
best thing you can do to get people not to
drink fizzy drinks every day?

Speaker 24 (56:38):
Say?

Speaker 22 (56:38):
Well, I don't know, make the healthy stuff cheaper or
make the bad stuff more expensive. There are lots of
things you can do. This is just a really bad
way of doing it and it makes people feel like shit. Basically,
if you give your child a fuzzy drink.

Speaker 23 (56:52):
He's a great idea from here on in for those
at the partisan North City Council who want to go
with this policy, it could be a scruggen only catered
lunch from here on and at the council change a
good point.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Good point, I mean you wouldn't you shouldn't be having
a red meat, shouldn't you? I mean that that gives
you a col on cancer apparently, breeders, cards.

Speaker 22 (57:15):
Dogs, No, yeah, nothing.

Speaker 23 (57:17):
Just show your fingernails and just well, maybe a green
tea and an activated nut for afternoon tea.

Speaker 7 (57:24):
Yeah right, Tricias.

Speaker 22 (57:26):
Organic though only quite right.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Tricius and Josie Bugani on the panel. Chris Luxeen going
south for white Tangy Day will discuss that next.

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Speaker 2 (57:39):
Tricius and Joseph Bigani on the Huddle tonight. Trisha, Chris
Luxen and Dame Cindi Ketto will spend White Day Akro
this year in the South Island. That's Nahu. It's about
as far away as you can get from White Tonguey,
and which I suppose is part of the appeal, but
good idea.

Speaker 23 (57:58):
I think politically luxe AND's made the calculation that there
there is no win for him in going to White Hangy.
I personally think this will be the biggest White Hangey
that we've seen. It's been building over the last few years.
And if any one listening has never been to White
Hanging on White any day, I would suggest that you go.
It is an absolutely it's a fantastic day. Luxeon wants

(58:22):
to separate himself from, of course the Treaties Principal's Bill
and all of the debate that will go on around
that this year, and obviously David Seymour will be at
White Hangy. So the other I guess calculation that the
Prime Minister's press team will have made is that he's
down in Okadawa. There will be if you like, clean

(58:44):
pictures for him on White Angy Day.

Speaker 25 (58:46):
He'll be down there.

Speaker 23 (58:47):
There'll be some nice picks of things he's doing, whereas
you know, the main focus will be at at White Haungy.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
Yeah, Josie, what about you do you? I mean, obviously
a lot cart was presumably a lot karma and environment.
And also we've still got Winston of course, and Seymour
going to White Tangy, so if there is anything going on,
you know, that's where it'll be.

Speaker 22 (59:08):
Yeah, it's quite a clever move on Luxeon's part because
you know this is this is a place in Unukou
Marai where the treaty was signed as well in nineteen
ninety eight, it was where the Crown delivered its formal
apology to night Tahu for breaches of the treaty. So
it's not it's not that he's you know, he's not
doing something that's nothing to do with the treaty and
nothing to do with White Tangy. And I do think that,

(59:31):
you know, I've heard people say that White Tangy's our
national day where we shout at each other and we
have difficult conversations, and that's a good thing, except that
it's become more than that it had for most people.
It's just become a family day now where you try
and avoid the news and try and avoid seeing pictures
of people shouting and spitting each other. And it's a
real shame. I think that it can't be something more

(59:53):
like July fourth than the US or Bastille Day in France.
And maybe Matariki is going to be a day where
we feel more united as a country, because it certainly
doesn't feel like white Tongey is that day, and it
is possible to have that feeling on a day that's
quite quite difficult, like if you look at Martin Luther
King Day in America. My family live in Georgia and Atlanta,

(01:00:17):
where Martin Luther King lived and was born, and it's
a wonderful day and you have difficult conversations about race
issues in America on that day, but you also celebrate
something amazing, which is the civil rights movement. So I
just think it is really sad that it has become
something that most New Zealanders try and avoid.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Yeah, I think you're both absolutely right, Trisha and Josie
with us on the huddle tonight, Let's go to the
most important story of the day. That is, of course
for the Grammys and Kanye West. Now people will know
Kanye West. He's been a rapper for about twenty plus
years now, a long time. He was married to Kim
Kardashi and they had a bunch of kids and so
it's very, very famous. Now he has come with his girlfriend,

(01:00:58):
Bianca Sensori to the Grammar which is watched by you know,
millions of people around the world, and brought his girlfriend
and she has come literally but naked. Josie, she's not
she's not wearing a little bit, she's wearing nothing.

Speaker 22 (01:01:16):
Well, I didn't realize any of them were fully dressed.
It feels like for years they've all been nearly naked.
This is just the logical conclusion. And I do find
with these things like either they're up there telling us
that we're all racist, sexist, misogynists, or they're turning up
naked showing off their perfect bodies. It's that either way,
shut up, you know, put some.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
Clothes on, go awake, you do the talking.

Speaker 26 (01:01:39):
I mean a nice one.

Speaker 22 (01:01:42):
Yeah, but it actually crashed the virtually crashed the internet,
you know, And so I don't know, for the first
time in history, people are searching the internet to look
at a naked lady who knew.

Speaker 23 (01:01:53):
Well, this reminds me of a fantastic saying an old
colleague of mine used to have, which was all for
hote and no knickers. And that is exactly what it is,
exactly what Kanye's girlfriend wore to the Grammys. But think
about for her and Kanye, well, think about every artist
that goes to the Grammy. That red carpet moment is

(01:02:15):
a huge moment for their particular brands and profiles during
the year. And these guys have absolutely nailed it, so
to speak.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Except the only problem with it is trish that normally
they're there for a promoting some designer. But you've got
if you've got no clothes on, you've got nothing to sell,
you know what I mean? Ye naked, well, I think sell.

Speaker 22 (01:02:38):
So I want to know they both should have been naked.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Settled down Josie.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Go the full way.

Speaker 22 (01:02:47):
I mean, he's standing there like some kind of like
he's I don't know, he's got a sort of pet
on a lead or something. He's sort of standing there
behind it weird.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Like a pimple or something. It was weird.

Speaker 22 (01:02:57):
It take your clothes off, Kanye.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
We know what Josie wants. Thank you guys, Sharson, willispr
and Josep Vigani child fun Ceo on the Hudle tonight,
nine minutes away from six on News Talk Z'B. So
we've done the fizzy drinks out of Palmerston North. We
have spoken about trade and the Trump War. After six,
I'm really ented to chat to Scott Brown. Now he's

(01:03:21):
the former ambassador, American Ambassador to New Zealand. Now he's
been speaking with and coaching, if you like, the incoming ambassador,
whose name is Jared Nevlli. Now he owns a I
think it's a basketball team out of Australia. He is
coming in as Trump's ambassador to New Zealand. So Scott

(01:03:41):
Brown has been in conversations with him, gearing him up
for his new job as new role. What does he
think about the trade war and the potential for a
tariff on New Zealand. He's with us.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
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Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
News Talk said B. It is five away from six
so many texts coming in on Parmest North and their
plan and it's out just out for consultation. They're not
definitely doing it to ban fizzy drinks from council venues. Ryan,
I think it's one of the craziest ideas I have
ever heard. They did this in schools already, I was
okay with that, but honestly, to try and do it

(01:04:22):
to a rugby venue or to a events center nonsense.
Just gone five to six. As I said, Now the
Auckland meyor Wayne Brown has been in touch with us.
So the last hour I was telling you about this
Herald report, it's suggesting that things have kind of come
to a head between Wayne Brown and his deputy Desley Simpson.
Now Disley Simpson has wonderful Gutchie sunglasses on her head,

(01:04:45):
we know that. But she also apparently got her son
last year to register the domain name Desley for mea
dot co dot nz, implying that she might want to
run for MEA, which is obviously you know, rankled a
few people. Anyway, The Herald is vading a sauce in
Wayne Brown's team, saying that Wayne Brown and Dessley Simpson
are expected to meet over the next day or so.

(01:05:06):
When they do so, the source says Brown would demand
to know if she plans to run for mayor and
if so, would expect her to stand down from the
deputy roll Now our producer Laura, she's been on the
blower with Wayne and we wanted to get him on
the show to talk about this, obviously, as we did
with Desley. He's declined and he wanted us to clarify

(01:05:27):
that he hasn't spoken to Desley Simpson yet and the
Herald's reporter's just gossip. Wayne. Thank you for listening Wayne
while we've got you. As soon as you've now confirmed
that you are definitely listening, can you please sort out
the traffic on Ponsonby Road. They've put a bus way
in and a cycle way in, no one uses them,
and there's traffic up the wazoo my commute in fact,

(01:05:50):
do you know what, I'm now going around a completely
different route to get to my gym. How much time
have we got Wayne? A completely different route to to
my gym? And I'm just thinking, and that's taking me longer,
and I'm using more I'm sure I'm using more emissions.
So every time you put a bus lane and every
time you put a cycle lanean is anyone actually measuring

(01:06:11):
whether the emissions come down? Is anyone actually asking that question?
I don't think they are anyway, Thanks for listening. One
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and Pikell Scott Brown, former US ambassador on the trade war,
and Gavin Gray is in the UK right now. Nicola
Willis is here the Finance minister. Minister. Good evening, Good evening,
Great to have you on the show. Let's talk growth
because it's a big focus at the moment. Look, there's

(01:07:20):
been a lot of commentary about your government. Obviously you're
moving on the foreign investment stuff. That's good. There's some
tinkering to be done with immigration settings, with nomad visas etc.
Are we going to see anything transformation or from you
in this role.

Speaker 12 (01:07:37):
Well.

Speaker 24 (01:07:37):
Transformational is a word that Ja cinder Ardern used to
use a lot, so it's not one I repeat in
my lexicon that much. But are you going to see
bold initiatives that will make it easier for firms in
New Zealand to invest, to hire people and to grow. Yes,
will it be one silver bullet, No, because what we

(01:07:57):
know from economies the world over is it's never just
one thing. You actually have to do a lot of
things right that are on the side of growth. You
have to educate your people, you have to have not
too much regulation, you have to have a tax system
that works well. You have to have good trading relationships.
You need to encourage people to come and invest in
your country. So we've got a lot of work to

(01:08:18):
do because, for I would say successive decades, governments in
New Zealand have been complacent about growth. They've always been
able to trade it off against other things, saying we've
got to be careful about this, we've got to be
careful about that. And all of that may be true,
but right now New Zealanders are feeling poorer and if
we want to feel wealthier, we have to prioritize growth

(01:08:41):
and that's what our government is going to do across
a number of areas. So you will see a lot
of initiatives from us. You know, people have said, oh, well, tourism,
that's one small thing. If we got tourism just back
to the levels it was a few years ago, that
would be worth more than three and a half billion
dollars for the wealth of our economy. That means more jobs,
people being paid more. It also means hundreds of millions

(01:09:02):
of dollars more going into the government accounts, which is
then available to spend on schools and hospitals and the
things we care about. So we have to do lots
of things well run, and that's what we're going to do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Have we got our company tax settings right?

Speaker 24 (01:09:16):
Well, if you compare New Zealand with the rest of
the world, we're not as competitive as we used to be,
which is to say that our corporate tax level is
reasonably high when you compare it to the rest of
the developed world. So looking at that, our government says, okay, well,
what could we do to make sure that the tax
settings in New Zealand are supportive of businesses wanting to

(01:09:38):
invest and grow. Realizing that on the other side of that,
we have to pay for it, because if we're taking
in less tax, then we have to find other ways
of getting that money so we can invest in the
things that really matter, our public services, and also ensure
that we're still on track to get our budget back
and balance and reduce debt over time. So as a government,

(01:09:58):
we need to work through all of the those questions.
But the honest answer to your question is we need
need to be more competitive in that area.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
So you are looking at changing the corporate.

Speaker 24 (01:10:06):
Tax rate, Well, there's many different ways we can approach
the TEX system. One thing is the corporate tax rate,
but there are all sorts of tax rules that sit
underneath that, and I'm actually interested in the detail of
the way the whole system works, not just the headline rate,
but you're.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Looking at the headline rate and the other things together
to make it more competitive.

Speaker 24 (01:10:29):
My interest is how do we make sure that it's
competitive in New Zealand that a when our small businesses
here are looking to grow or looking to invest, that
the tax system doesn't stop them doing that. But also
as we look to be a country that other people
want to invest in and bring their businesses to, how
can we make this a competitive business environment. Tax is

(01:10:50):
one part of that, but it's also about red tape.
It's about the rules in the Overseas Investment Act, it's
about being able to get a resource consent, it's about
employment law, all of those things. Firms will tell you
they've got a list when they're looking at other countries.
Tax is one pull it point on the list. It's
not the only bullet point.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Hugely important one, though. Would you look at you know,
you mentioned international firms, multinationals, and you look at Ireland
and what Island's done, and we know lux and likes
Ireland that you've got so much tax now they're putting
it into a sovereign wealth fund. Are we going to
do anything to be more competitive for that type of investment.

Speaker 24 (01:11:29):
Well, we have a sovereign wealth fund too, it's the
New Zealand Super Fund. It's got more than seventy billion
dollars worth of assets as I talk to you today.
But when we look at Ireland's story, you're right, there's
a lot that we can take from it. They made
a real active decision to look out to the world,
to attract investment, to be a trading nation, to vigorously

(01:11:49):
improve their education system to get smart about innovation, and
they looked at tax. So we can't take tax off
the table because it could make a difference to our competitiveness.
We always have to balance that against our other pressing needs,
which include investing in frontline public services, ensuring we're getting
our deficit down, and taking other steps across the board

(01:12:10):
to make ourselves more competitive.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
And what about the fastest depreciation on manufacturing technology purchases.
The Employees and Manufacturers Association has been on this program
and told them, you know that's doing that type of Yes,
it will cost you something, but you will add to growth, productivity,
wages will go up. Is that sort of stuff on
your radar too?

Speaker 24 (01:12:33):
Oh, look, that's on my radar. That's something that I
have listened to both the employer and manufacturers, but other
organizations have promoted that idea to me, and I'm keeping
my mind open to it. Ultimately, Cabinet needs to make
decisions about what our priorities are. We haven't made those
deliberations yet, but I think it is right when we're

(01:12:55):
saying we're a government going for growth, that we do
keep all of the options on the table and we
consider what we think will make the biggest impact. So
if my mind's open.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Okay, if you're going for growth and you're also trying
to get back to surplus, some of these growth ideas
will cost money. Are you willing to further push surplus
date out if it means will you prioritize growth? If
it means will you sacrifice surplus?

Speaker 24 (01:13:27):
If it means growth, We're going to prioritize growth. But
it's not an either or scenario because if we don't
run good books, ie we don't actually show the people
who lend to us internationally that we are going to
have sustainable finances, then the result of that can be
that it becomes a lot more expensive for New Zealand

(01:13:48):
as a whole, and New Zealand is individually to borrow
and that's very bad for growth. So there's always a
balancing that goes on here in terms of funding initiatives
that support growth. That's why it's on important we keep
looking all across government and so well where are the
areas that we're spending now that are lower value? Because
if we did some reprioritizing, then we could support the

(01:14:09):
things that will drive growth faster. And that's our agenda.
It's about saying, how do we get the growth that
will allow us to have more choices in the future,
about investing in more public services, and on the way through,
getting rid of the things that aren't moving the dial,
that aren't delivering good results for New Zealanders, the parts
of government that have become slow, wasteful, bureaucratic. Let's get

(01:14:31):
resource out of there so we can do the exciting
things that will make this a more prosperous country where
people can get ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
The Interroland of ferry to move on. Why the procuring
company for the inter island is still not set up well?

Speaker 24 (01:14:45):
Obviously, Winston Peters is now responsible for keep Rail and
the Fury project, and I understand that he has the
appointment process underway for that company and once directors are appointed,
he will be incorporating it. I think he's got something
to say about that this week, because it's.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Still the March deadline, right, and if we don't get
the ferry that he wants by March, then we're going
with your two Toyota ones, right, Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:15:08):
That's right. And we made sure we had a fallback
position so that if the Minister for Rail doesn't come
up with a better option. Then we've got something ready
to go so that New Zealanders can be confident boats
in twenty twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
So is your package like good and ready to go?
Because it might come down to the wire with him
and we don't want to be waiting even more time.
So is your have you got your little Toyota's ready
to go?

Speaker 24 (01:15:31):
Yeah, So Cabinet has agreed to a funding envelope. We've
agreed to a procurement plan. We've agreed that this ferry
company that's being set up could do the purchasing of
the ships. We know that there are ships available internationally.
So that's ready to go. But the Minister for rail's
doing the right thing. He is comparing that option with

(01:15:52):
what else might be out there, and he's running a
process to.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
Do that right.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Okay, Hey, the Waikata Medical School Treasury Advice says that
they think it's a waste of clearly you think otherwise,
well do you?

Speaker 24 (01:16:03):
Well, Well, we've taken it to the next stage, which
is what they call a detailed business case. And I
know that sounds like gobbledy girk, but the idea is,
let's really dig into these numbers about what benefits it
will bring. How many more graduates we'd expect. Will they
be graduates who might not otherwise have studied medicine, Will
we get more people working in the areas of medicine

(01:16:25):
where we have shortages? What are the real costs of this?
And so that detailed business case is underway, it's been
worked on. Then Cabinet will consider it before making a
final decision. We're dotting our eyes, we're crossing our t's,
We're digging into the detail as you'd expect.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Minister, Thank you very much for your time. Thank you,
Finance Minister Nicola Willis. It has just gone seventeen minutes
after six, So you go. They are considering the corporate
tax rate as part of the well presumably as part
of the budget process. And that is as close as
you'll get Nicola Willis to saying anything remotely out of
line when it comes to the budget process. Seventeen after six,

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Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
Bryan Bridge.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Twenty one minutes after six, Shane Solly's here Harvest Asset
Management to talk about the market. So today the trade
wars lots to talk about, Shane good evening.

Speaker 18 (01:18:30):
Yeah, get a right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
So we got these tariffs twenty five percent for Canada, Mexico,
ten percent for China. How the market's reacted?

Speaker 18 (01:18:38):
Yeah, look, yeah, sual announcement of the terriffs adittle bit
of opportunity. Market investors have been anticipating some of this,
So the initial reactions they're actually been pretty modest. The
US Shimaker was down half a percent. UI still actually
was quite strong. Oil price up and US bowns up
of it. But we're actually seeing overnight there's a bit
more reaction to come. When I look at the futures,

(01:19:00):
I can see what markets are anticipating is a bit
more weakness coming through. So yet to see. We're seeing
a bit of reaction from some of the other countries
that are involved as well. So it's a pretty fast
evolving story.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
And what's been the impact specifically on New Zealand companies,
especially Fisher and pikel.

Speaker 18 (01:19:15):
Yeah, Look, we're not directly exposed. We are exposed to
a tip battle between the US and China in particular,
and then there's this ten percent universal tariff that the US.

Speaker 7 (01:19:25):
Government's still talking about.

Speaker 18 (01:19:27):
What we're really seeing is our US dollar Cross has
done all the hard work grind. We've seen the New
Zealand dollar back to fifty five since and a half,
so it's going to make those holidays. So the U
is very expensive, good good for people coming down. We've
seen now on New Zealand youre market down one point
four percent and that has predominantly been driven by Fisher
and Pikele healthcare's weakness. And I think you know what

(01:19:49):
we've got to keep an eye is really this ten
percent tariffs that would hit a wider range of economy. Dairy, meat, wine,
all those types of things would be knocked around by
that ten percent. But on the day, it's all about
Fisher and Bible.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
We had a couple of another and a couple of
other announcements I should say today Feature Building, Sky Study.
What did you make of them? A new chair for
Feature Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:20:10):
Look, we've seen Peter Crowley appointed as chair. He's been
on the board for a little while and we've also
seen the ex Bunnings boss Jackie Coombs as in the Pint.
I think this is sort of hopefully the start of
the business being able to refocus on rebuilding itself. You know,
we've got Barbara Chapman, she's stepping down Fletcher Building ship
Rice on the day up slightly to kill eighty eight.

(01:20:31):
Sky City agreed to pay Izzie thirty eight million to
set a long running dispute with the South Australian Treasury,
So that really is a good resolution. It gets rid
of a sort of an overhand for it. I think
we're going to keep focusing on fusher on bib we
rf care for a while. The stock price was down
almost seven percent today, back of thirty five dollars and
ten since we don't know exactly how long the tariffs

(01:20:53):
stay on. The company came out today and said, hey,
look we're okay for twenty twenty five, but if these
teriffs saying we're going to have to change where we use,
they're going to bring more product back to u zond
And of course at the moment the zeon production is
not getting hit with the tariff, and that would help,
that would reduce the impact, but still might see earnings
down five percent, so the market reacted to that risk.
Anywheretween five to ten percent downside to earnings, share price

(01:21:16):
we've down in reaction to that risk.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Shane, Thanks for that. Shane solely Harbor Asset Management for
the market update. Twenty four minutes after six, you're on
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Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
Six twenty six. You know Santorini and Greece, beautiful romantic
island getaway. The schools have been shut there, special forces
have been brought in, Rescue teams have been brought in,
They've got tenths, they've got drones being sent into this island.
And it's all to do with a big earthquake. The
thing is, the earthquake hasn't happened yet. This is precautionary,

(01:21:58):
which you know when I read this story, this flies
in the face of everything they tell us about earthquakes
that we can't predict when they're going to come. But
they're seismologists, and their scientists in Greece say that there
have been enough small tremors going on around Santorini to
warrant this type of pre action, you know, a precaution reaction.

(01:22:21):
So they've sent in everything but the kitchen sink by
the sounds of it. And what's the reason they've done this.
They sit on multiple fault lines there. They had a
huge earthquake back in the fifties. It's often rattled by earthquakes.
Experts described the increased seismic activity over the space of
forty eight hours, with more than two hundred tremors, registering

(01:22:42):
as dramatic. So there you go. They are I mean,
I suppose if you are that worried, you take some action. Hey,
this is the Beatles. Great news. They have won a
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Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
Good evening. Twenty four away from seven. You're on news
talks b you haven't switched over to Underno Flavor or something.
It's the Grammys today. Actually this song is for Deasley Simpson.

Speaker 6 (01:23:49):
Sit down, little pull up, Liam, Hit those.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Gucci sunglasses off your head, get those meural aspirations out
of your head. Honestly, this is Wayne's world now, Kendrick Lamar,
That's a really good song, isn't it. Anyway, this is

(01:24:12):
his song Not Like Us. We're not playing because it's
filled with profanities that we can't play on the radio.
But this is humble. Kendrick Lamar has just one Record
of the Year and the Song of the Year for
Not Like Us of the Grammys, which once again raises
the question why they need two different awards for Record
and song when it's the same thing. Anyway. Twenty three
away from seven, Trump has well he is set to

(01:24:34):
speak with leaders of Canada and Mexico in just a
few hours. It comes as both of those countries announced
they will impose tariffs in retaliation China, which has also
been in the news and hit by the tariffs has
said it'll take the case to the World Trade Organization.
Scott Brown is a former US Ambassador to New Zealand.
Scott good evening, Well, good evening to you, Scott. Great

(01:24:56):
to have you on the show. As always, is this
phone call are these uncle is going to change anything?

Speaker 10 (01:25:02):
Well, yeah, of course, it's part of the process. I mean,
we have already been seeing success. Obviously, we started with
some of the people that were here illegally being returned
to a country and the President said that he would
impose tariffs and other things in the President reversed his course.
I think it was Columbia, if I'm not mistaken. That
being said, we have a poorest border, not only in

(01:25:24):
Mexico but in Canada as well, and the fentanyl's coming
through people who are not supposed to be there coming through.
And the President's been asking for quite a while to
you know, close the border and allow for the stay
in Mexico policy and a whole host of other things.
And the reason that tariffs are a tool one of
the tools in the toolbox is that you know, there's

(01:25:47):
some of these products that are in other countries. We're
being taxed to death, and yet they're coming into our
countries at a much lesser rate. So it's a mechanism,
it's a tool.

Speaker 5 (01:25:57):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:25:57):
I'm sure that they'll ultimately work it out.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Are you guys happy, I mean, are Republicans happy to
pay more for goods and services if it means if
it allows Trump to do this, because that's the outcome, right.

Speaker 10 (01:26:08):
Well, it could be sure. Yeah, if we're talking about
national security and we got to pay a little bit
more from milk or cheese a butter, yeah, of course
we're okay with that because you know, we have to
secure a border. We have to stop the flow of sentinel.
It's killing you know, the next generation of people. And
they're not listening. So well, we're going to make them listen.

(01:26:29):
And I think it's important to get those two issues
especially a result.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
Do you reckon that the Mexicans actually have the capability
to stop the flow of migrants inventional.

Speaker 10 (01:26:41):
Well, they certainly have a mechanism they did before to
keep them stay in Mexico policy right now, the cartels
are obviously controlling way more than they did during President
Trump's previous term. That's why he's designated them designated them
a terrorist organization, so they can actually you know, be
more aggressive and stuff up in the cartels. I would

(01:27:01):
argue and suggest, as in the years past, it would
be a joint effort not only with the US but
with Mexico, you know, on both sides of the border
to secure it.

Speaker 25 (01:27:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:27:10):
I believe they have the tools and resources to do so.

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
Sure, this is at the moment seems to be very
much about fentanal. I mean, regardless of whether Trump has
wider reasons for doing this, at the moment, the stated
reasons are fentional and migration. Does that mean that we
should not worry because you know, we're not big on
exporting fentanyl from New Zealand. It's more you know, sheep

(01:27:33):
and beef products, dairy products.

Speaker 10 (01:27:36):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, first of all, hello to everybody. I've
been actually speaking with your new ambassador elect and no,
listen to sixteen billion dollars of trade. It's relatively even.
I have not heard anything to say that we're going
to impose tariffs on New Zealand. Obviously we have the
milk and dairy and that issue that's always been there.

(01:27:59):
You know, full that the new ambassador will pursue a
free trade agreement with New Zealand, as has been since
the late eighteen hundreds and early nineteen hundreds. President's past
have said, yeah, we need to do it, and I
know Winston Peters is working in a hirclean way to
get that done. He did with me and we were
able to do the Kiwi Act, and then he's done

(01:28:21):
other things with Ambassador you'd all as well, And it's
really important to get a free trade agreement with New
Zealand and I'm one hundred percent behind it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Yeah, but doesn't that not fly on the fight Because
I agree with you, it'll be fantastic, But doesn't that
fly in the face of Trump's I mean he's called
himself missed tariff, you know, and IFTI in New Zealand
would seem to fly on the fightce of that, wouldn't it.

Speaker 10 (01:28:42):
No, Because you know, when you're talking about the tariff
issue itself, it's because we're not getting fair access to
other countries. And we are with New Zealand. It's a
pretty balanced trade. But with China, you know, they you know,
the free speech issues for example, I mean they have
for example tikke, so they don't even allow it in
their wrong country, but it's in our country. A lot

(01:29:03):
of the goods that we want to have, whether it's
cars or any type of manufacturing, you know, they don't
allow it without massive tarras. And you know, we just
want a more free access to these markets that we
allow in return. And you know, it could be any country.
There's motorcycles they believe in India, or you know, there's
all different types of things that you need to just

(01:29:24):
make it fair. Let's compare a let's battle on a
fair basis. I think that's really the key.

Speaker 2 (01:29:31):
Scott, Thank you for that. Scott Brown, former US Ambassador
to New Zealand, speaking to us from the United States
after Trump introduced those tariffs and China and then well,
so far, actually it is only Canada that has retaliated.
Mexico has indicated they will retaliate but hasn't yet done that,

(01:29:52):
and China is weighing up its options and taking a
case to the World Trade Organization. All three of those
countries going to sport work. Yes, three of those countries
going to speak with Donald Trump at some point. We
know in the next few hours, Pitt Trudeau will be
the first to do so, right eighteen minutes away from
seven still to come. We're into the UK with Gavin Gray.

(01:30:13):
Lots to talk about with Gavin tonight, the former president
of Spain's football federation is going on trial later today.
We've got the tariffs and what exactly they might mean
for Europe. Also, Kirs Starmer heading to Brussels and he's
talking about Brexit. What exactly is he saying about Brexit?
We'll ask Gavin.

Speaker 27 (01:30:32):
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Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
Just gone quarter to seven. Gavin Gray is a UK correspondent.
He is going to be with us very shortly. State
Highway one and Wellington for those who are interested, State
Highway one and Wellington is going to be closed for maintenance.
This is in the coming days and in fact this
week and next week there will be certain times at

(01:31:06):
which it has closed. You can find out more information
on the council website, NCTA website, State Highway one and
the Urban Motorway. This is basically Wellington to the Hut
that's going to be affected as well. And I just wonder.
It's road maintenance, which is important and needs to happen,
and of course you know resurfacing the road, you need
that to happen. I just wonder where they're doing it
at the moment because people are away on holiday. Is

(01:31:29):
it just me? Or do you feel like people are
taking these four days or these three days plus the
fourth day on the Friday off and just having this
whole week off so they've had the weekend, they'll have
all this week and they'll have next weekend as well.
Because I you know, call me stupid, but when I
went to the mall on Sunday, there was no one there,

(01:31:50):
and there's usually a lot of people in the mall
coming to work. Feels like no one's here, So I
just wonder, Yeah, are you are one of these people
that's taken the whole We've only just had whole based
for goodness saves? How many do you need? Anyway? It
has just gone thirteen minutes away from seven Ryan Bridge.
Kevin Gray is a UK correspondent. Gevin, thanks for being
with us this evening. The former president of Spain's football

(01:32:13):
federation is going on trial later today. What's this about?

Speaker 25 (01:32:17):
Yeah, well you'll remember run back in the twenty twenty
three Women's Football World Cup that Spain won, and on
the winner's podium, the former president of the Football Federation,
Louis Rubialis, grabbed the head of one of the star players,
Jenny Hamoso, and by the head, he grabbed her with

(01:32:39):
both hands either side of her cheek and then well,
the argument is, the accusation is he then pulled her
head towards his and kissed her fully on the lips. Now,
afterwards Hermoso, the player, said the kiss had not been consensual.
Rubialis insisted it had been. And so he's now in
court today at a very unusual court, accused of sex assault

(01:33:00):
for kissing the player. And it sort of led as
an issue about sexism and consent discussions in Spain and
all triggered really after this, and indeed it triggered ruby
Ardis's record resignation. It entered the political arena. The Prime
Minister said that they really needed to look at gender

(01:33:21):
equality and ensure consent and sexual relations, which in some
aspects Spain was seen to be behind. So who would
have thought that in celebrating the victory for Spain in
the Women's World Cup in twenty twenty three, one man
would now end up in court for effectively, well allegedly
assaulting a player on the winner's podium.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
Quite extraordinary, it is, especially because we all witnessed it, right, Yeah, yeah,
really strange, like do Donald Trump is the terrorf issue.
We've been talking about this all afternoon. Imports from the EU,
he says, will definitely happen following what he's done with
Canada and Mexico and China. How's that landing.

Speaker 25 (01:34:01):
Yeah, where you can imagine? Not particularly well. It's been
debated for so long about will he do it, won't
he do it? And as Donald trumpbenter talks shortly with
Canada and Mexico, he's actually threatening that he could wratch
it up those tariffsies issued on those countries further if
and when they retaliate that you'd come in, of course,

(01:34:21):
in about a day's time. So there is lots of
talk about this here in the EU, what it'll mean,
and of course to the UK. So of the EU,
he said, quote, they've really taken advantage of us. They
don't take our cars, they don't take our farm products,
they take almost nothing, and we take everything.

Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
He says.

Speaker 25 (01:34:40):
Millions of cars, tremendous amounts of food and farm products.
The reporter then said, look, are you you know is
there a timeline? When's that going to happen? He said,
it's going to be pretty soon, and then carried on
with his famous sort of stance that the US has
been ripped off by virtually every country in the world.
But what about the UK? Well that was slightly different.
Said there were issues, he said, And yeah, that's a possibility.

(01:35:05):
He said, But the Prime Minister here, Sir kist Armer
had and I love this bridge, Ryan Bridge, he says,
kist arm has been very nice.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
Bizarre. Well, it's all about relationships, doesn't it. I mean
with Trump, that's the that's the key to the castle,
I guess. And speaking of Kis Darmer, he's heading to Brussels.
This is for the European Union Union leaders meeting.

Speaker 25 (01:35:31):
Yeah, and lots of people who voted for Brexit, believe
in Brexit, don't like this cozying back up to the
European Union. They fear it's re entering the Union via
the back door. But this is an important meeting. It
is the first time a British prime minister has done
this since Brexit. He's heading over the English Channel, then
most of the discussions won't be about the economy. There'll

(01:35:53):
be defense and security cooperation. He's also meeting the NATO
Secretary General Mark Rutter. But what Sakis Starmer is calling
a reset between the UK and the European Union, well round,
plenty of people here are wondering if it's more, Will
they really not discuss the economy at all? Ministers have
already said they want to see a better relationship on crime, defense, security,

(01:36:17):
but also trade, and will this potentially be the start
of some sort of rapproch one about that. It was
never going to happen under Boris Johnson, it was never
going to happen under Liz Truss. Rishi soon acting to
be warmer to the idea, but was aware that many
in his political party as Prime Minister would not have
really allowed this at all. Sakis Farmer coming at it

(01:36:38):
from a different angle. Let's see what happens. But it
is this argument about perhaps closer links over trade that
is going to be extremely, extremely divisive here in the UK.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
It sounds like, Devin, thank you so much for that.
Devin Gray, are UK correspondent. Your news talks in B.
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Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
Six to seven on News Talk ZIB. Now, we've been
talking today about the Grammys and the sorry yeah, the Grammys,
and then the Oscars are coming next and the Oscars.
I don't know if anyone has seen this movie, Amelia Perez,
but it's lead actress who's a transactress, is getting herself
in all sorts of trouble over the last couple of days.

(01:37:25):
Well she to be fair, she hasn't done anything. She
just did some tweets a while ago that are now resurfacing.
So she has been nominated for Actress of the Year
or Actor of the Year, whatever you want to call it,
and that is now in jeopardy because of these tweets
that have been resurfaced. Now among them, she talks about
picking her daughter up from school and there being lots

(01:37:46):
of Muslim people because she's Spanish, she lives in Spain,
lots of Muslim people and saying, oh am, I going
to have to learn Arabic. All these kinds of things,
which are obviously not last things to say. So tweets
of that nature years ago. The film that she's in
is Being, which is about a trans woman and the

(01:38:07):
cartels in Mexico. The film that she's in Being absolutely
slammed online because it doesn't represent Mexico well or represent
trans people. Well, I mean, all this stuff and you
just think she's an actress. It's a movie. It's all
make believe. I mean really, the only question in my
mind that should matter is can they act? Did they

(01:38:31):
give a good performance? The rest surely is just noise. Anyway,
it's coming up to four away from seven, Well, what
are we going out to?

Speaker 12 (01:38:42):
And right, yeah, back to the Grammys for a moment. Ran.
We're not going out to Billy Eilish and we're not
going out to Tailorsoft because neither of them won anything
at the Grammys. Tailorsoft was nominated for six awards, Billy
Eilish was nominated for seven, and neither of them managed
to actually win it in which is actually quite interesting,
possibly not deserved, I don't know, but one person who did,
Charlie XC. She won two of the awards she was
nominated for. She won Best Electronic Album, which is controversial

(01:39:06):
because it was more of a Pop Album but whatever,
And she also won Best a Dance Pop Recording that
well at least has pop in the name, so she
won that for Von Dutch. I can't play that because
that's false wheel words too. That seems to be a
trend at the Grammys this year, so we're.

Speaker 2 (01:39:17):
Going out with Apple Goodness. Nice Taylor Swift took home
all the money. Of course, with that eraors, I.

Speaker 6 (01:39:24):
Don't think she'll lose any sleep.

Speaker 26 (01:39:25):
Don't worry.

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