Full Show Podcast: 11 April 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Digging through the spin spence to find the real story story.
It's Ryan Bridge on Heather duples Ellen drive with One
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Let's get connected and news talks.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
They'd be good afternoon. It is seven after four. I'm
Ryan Bridge. Great to be with you this afternoon. Heather
is back with you on Monday. So my final show
with you this afternoon. Let's make it a good one
for a Friday. The government today redefining the word veteran.
Will that keep the military happy? We'll ask that question
after five. Grant Dalton on Peter Berling. Did you know
Grant Dalton pulled the offer to Peter Berling. We speak

(00:36):
to Grant Dolton after five two. We're live to the US,
the UK and Hong Kong. Matt Brown and Darcy are
on the sports huddle this afternoon. Bread, good to be
with you, and happy birthday. Winston Peters on his eightieth birthday.
He won't be listening to this. He's jetting around the
Pacific as we speak, representing his country, keeping us close
to our friends in the region is China, Circles and

(00:59):
America One. He's visited more than forty countries since Luxon
took office. The stamina of this man, the discipline, the confidence,
the work ethic, all things to be admired. And what
a contrasted picture he paints in Parliament, one side of
the house draped in performative costumes, wearing badges and head

(01:20):
pieces and snapping their fingers and doing TikTok, not bothering to,
by the way, learn the standing orders, which Winston's mastered
over nearly half a century, not bothering to turn up
to work in some cases, not bothering to engage in
meaningful debate, so that we might all get to a
better place. You know, the essence of democracy. Winston is

(01:42):
not perfect. He's flip flopped and you turned more times
than you can count, and he angered a lot of
people by picking to cinder adurn. But you have to
admit he's a man with a strategy. He's a man
who doesn't mind hard work. He's a man whose politics
you may not like, but who's character modern society cannot
afford to lose or forget. He was born get this

(02:05):
back in nineteen forty five, just a few weeks before
Germany's surrendered to the Allies in World War II. He's
been in politics for nearly half a century. The king
maker punching well above his weight in the MMP system.
In fact, I had a teacher at Yuni who used
to say the P and MMP who stands for Peters.
He loves a bit of drama, he loves a fight,
and he's not above performative politics either. By the way,

(02:28):
remember the no sign, Remember all the inquiries, the donation
sagas the list does go on. But and this is
why kiwis keep giving him a chance. He takes seriously
the things and the people he's made promised to represent,
and he works day and night to get the political
get deals done, to make sure that they actually happen.

(02:50):
The new generation of politicians should put their phones down,
probably sign out of Instagram, and take a leaf out
of Winston's diary Winston Your Birthday, Ryan Bridge nine. After
four nine two, the number to text high school expulsions
are up sixty seven percent in the past five years.
This is according to data given to the Post by

(03:10):
the Ministry of Education. Last year, nearly two hundred over
sixteen year olds were expelled, while more than twenty one
thousand students were temporarily stood down. Physical assaults they were
up there, sexual harassment weapons another problem. Chris Abercrombie is
the president for the Post Primary Teachers Association with us
this afternoon.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Hi Chris good Bay.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Good to have you on the show. So think what
happens if you get expelled? Is that goodbye for good?

Speaker 5 (03:38):
It depends how old you are, So if you're over sixteen,
that could be the end of your time at school.
If you're under sixteen, you have to attend a school,
So either another school is found for you if you're
lucky enough to live in a community of more than
one school, or you could be directed back to your
school you're excluded from by the Ministry of Education.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
The school has to take.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
You back, so you can never actually get rid of all. Potentially,
you can't get that rid of a student even if
you want to.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
If they're under sixteen, it is incredibly difficult because they
have that right to an education. They have to attend
school under sixteen.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
What can you give us some idea? How bad would
it have to get before you would be expelled?

Speaker 5 (04:14):
It's definitely a last resort for schools because it is
often we know the outcomes for these young people once
they're expelled or excluded is never good. You know, there's
very little coming back from that.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
It's a really big steps.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
So schools try to do everything they can so if
a student's being excluded or expelled, it's a big, big deal.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
How are teachers handling all this stuff? Because it sounds
like I mean, all the reports you get is that
it's much harder in the classroom. There's a lot more violence.
Kids are, you know, throwing things or hitting teachers even
How are they coping with it all?

Speaker 5 (04:49):
It's really hard on the teaching workforce. As I've said
this many times, teaching is a fantastic career. It's one
I love, but it's increasingly hard, and so we need
to make sure we're getting that support for these young
people early on so they can make good decisions later on.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
All right, Chris, we believe it there. Thanks for your time.
Chris Abercrombie, the Post Primary Teachers Association President, just gone eleven.
After four that number again was two one hundred. Over
sixteen year olds were expelled, which means that it's like goodbye,
that's the end. And twenty one thousand students temporarily stood
down so they are allowed back at some point just gone.
On twelve minutes after four nine to nine two. The

(05:25):
number to text Jason Pine was sport Next.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
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on iHeartRadio powered My News TALKSBB.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
It is fourteen after four News TALKSB. So Peter Berling
is faring well, bidding farewell to the team New Zealand
and the America's Cup, and we're gonna have Grant Dalton
on the show to discuss the reasons why. After five
Jason Pine hosted Weekend Sports with Us Here Now, Hi Jason,
good to have you on the show. So he's leaving.

Speaker 7 (05:56):
Yeah, it came out of the blue, didn't it. I
don't think we moved bake up a score aning. We
expected this to be the story leading our sports news today.
But look, he's held the old mug up three times.
Incredible legacy that he has. And you must remember America's
Cup is only one of the projects that Peter Berling
has going on. He's clearly really loving life in the
Black Foils and sal GP. There's a bit of work

(06:17):
to do there and maybe he just thinks, well, I've
been there and done that with the America's Cup, three up,
three down, Let's put our focus somewhere else. He's also,
of course a family man. There's only so many ways
you can be pulled. I'll be interested to hear from
Grant Dalton as to the reasons, but as from what
I can understand, I mean, I've got to get this
this America's Cup defence up and running. You know, time

(06:39):
is not necessarily a plent to pull for them. So
if it wasn't going to be Peter Berling, then they
have to move on and find out who it is
going to be to helm the next America's Cup to feat.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
How much do you reckon, Jason, that sal GP's affecting
the retention of your sailors for the America's Cup teams.

Speaker 7 (06:57):
Well, a lot of sailors do both the America's Couple.
It's not forget its only only comes around every few years,
where a sale GP is every year. But it does
clog the calendar, and there are you know, there are
only so many days I think that that an elite
level sailor can commit to doing it. Look, I don't
know whether Peter Berlin will be the first domino to fall.

(07:18):
Whether you know he has won and others will follow suit.
But yeah, look, there's only so many days in a year.
And as I say, he's got other commitments as well
with sale GP and other projects too, so something had
to give. And yeah, like I say, he's been there
and done it with America's cups and maybe he decided
this was the one that was easiest to let go.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, Heymana Pacifica, are they about to become Auckland's favorite
rugby team?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Do you reckon about?

Speaker 7 (07:43):
I don't know. They might already be after last week.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Lot.

Speaker 7 (07:47):
I think tomorrow is going to be a great occasion
at eden Park, is the early game ahead of the
Opikie Final of Eden Park tomorrow night as well. But
I think Mawaita Pacifica are a really hot chart of
beating the Blues. Funnily enough, if you hover above it
look down you say, well, actually, the Blues are probably favorites,
even though Moana have found a bit of a hot streak.
But I wouldn't beyond the realms of possibility. What I

(08:08):
hope's a great occasion there tomorra Ryan. You know there
should be all sorts of fans for both sides, lots
of color, lots of energy for a double head of
a eating park. But yeah, I mean, it wouldn't be
the worst investment in the world to chuck a sneaky
ten on Maana Tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Brilliant Jason, great to have you on. Has always have
a fantastic weekend Jason Pine, host of Weekend Sport here
at news Talks here. But it's four seventeen. Cost the
Tasman quickly, little lossy election update for you. The couple
of weird things. Actually, there's a liberal candidate who has
got himself in trouble because he's been handing out Easter eggs,
which is a nice thing to do for a politician,
but handing out Easter eggs outside of a school I

(08:45):
know why. Anyway, he says he was doing it talking
to the parents at the gate as they were dropping
kids off for picking kids up or whatever it was,
and was just kindly offering a bit of chocolate, you know,
as he was doing this. Some parents apparently were unhappy
with the fact that there was a strange man standing
outside the school gate handing out chocolates. They said it

(09:06):
undermines the lessons we're trying to teach our kids about
not you know, taking things from strangers, So that's a fail.
What was his name, Scott Young. Now Dutton has apparently
been the subject of some kind of terror plot. And
normally they don't talk about this on the campaign because
you don't talk about the plots that are you know,
that are happening behind the scenes, least you encourage more

(09:28):
of them. But because it's campaign and full swing and
they're basically playing a game of right now, these two
leaders playing a game of who's had the most death threats,
who's the bigger victim. So Dutton has a terror plot
and then out comes elbow saying, oh, you know, I
want to send my condolence, you know, my thoughts to him.
But I myself, I'll read his quote, I myself have

(09:48):
been the subject of a range of threats, at least
one of which is before legal processes at the moment.
There was a pretty serious incident. So now, of course
all the press is wondering, what is this pretty serious
incident it's currently before the courts that involves our prime minister.
We don't know. He didn't elaborate it is nineteen minutes
after four. We'll have Barry Soper here a little before

(10:09):
five to talk politics. Here in New Zealand and Dan Mitterson,
our US correspondent afternoons.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Getting the facts, discarding the fluff.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
It's Ryan Bridge on hither duplice Ellen drive with one
New Zealand let's get connected news dogs.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
They'd be four twenty two and it's lovely to be
with you on this Friday afternoon. Hi, Ryan says this text.
I recently volunteered for my daughter's school camp, intermediate age group,
two hundred kids. I was appalled and shocked with the behavior,
lack of respect and attitudes of these kids. It's bad.
This is in relation to the expulsion. So two hundred
kids every year are kicked out of school. I actually

(10:47):
thought it would be more than that, to be honest,
but two hundred are kicked out of school permanently, like
get out, leave, don't come back. And that number apparently
has increased sixty seven percent over the last five years.
So the kids is just getting naalia and naalia and
more aggressive, which is not a good thing. But interested
to hear from any other parents have experienced the same thing.

(11:07):
Now let's go back to Trump for a second. So
you know Janet Yellen, she's former sectary of the US
Treasury didn't really mince her words when she gave her
assessment of Trump's trade policies. Have a listen.

Speaker 8 (11:19):
This is the worst self inflicted wound that I have
ever seen in an administration impose on a well functioning economy.
This is going to be devastating for American households and workers.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
The likelihood of a recession due to President Trump's economic policies.

Speaker 8 (11:39):
In your view, well, it's clearly risen. President Trump says
he wants to create manufacturing job jobs. What firm is
going under these circumstances, with this level of uncertainty, is
going to undertake a long lived investment.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
It's Janet Yellen. She's the former sectary of the US Treasury.
Pretty scathing. But you can't argue with that, can you.
It is self inflicted. I mean, he argues he's doing
it for other reasons. He's doing it for the longer term,
he's doing it for the manufacturing, he's doing it for
even strategic military objectives. But in the short term. That

(12:18):
is a pretty frank, but honest and truthful assessment of
the situation. Twenty four minutes after four Now back home,
we've had the latest numbers through on manufacturing. This is
the PMI. This is from Business New Zealand BNZ, Business
New Zealand. So the number is fifty three point two
for March. That is actually down on February, which is

(12:39):
not a great thing. Is down from fifty four point
one in February to fifty three point two in March.
But any number above fifty means it's expanding, right, and
that's the third month in a row that we've had expansions,
so that is actually kind of a good story. Still
below the long average run rate of fifty four, but
they're worried about weak demand. They're worried about few new

(13:00):
orders coming in. The problem with this data, and the
problem with the data we've had all week, is that
it's all for March and we are now in a
very different world because of Donald Trump. So all of
these surveys aren't really worth the paper that they're restaurant.
I mean they are because there are a moment in
time and they're a snapshot. But you can beat your
bottom dollar that all of the numbers in terms of confidence,

(13:22):
all of the numbers in terms of output, they're going
to be down, aren't they? After what's happened in the
US this week, you would have to say so twenty
five minutes after four. So after five we're going to
talk to Chris Pink, Veterans Minister. They've just changed the
definition of that word and the idea is that you

(13:42):
would compensate. Well, this is what some of the actual
veterans wanted. They wanted compensation, They wanted support, financial support
for those who didn't necessarily serve an active duty overseas
during a war, but were part of the defense force
during that time. And so the Gum has kind of
come up with a halfway house. They've said, we will

(14:03):
expand the definition, so yes, you are technically a veteran,
but they're not going to give them the entitlements and
the benefits that go with that. They are also doing
a day Veterans Day. I don't know, is that tokenistick
we'd love to hear from anyone who's been in the military.
Is that tokenistic to you? I mean, if the idea
is to get support and you've essentially given a job title,

(14:27):
a title, and a day that's not even a day off,
is that hollow to you? Nine two nine two is
the number to text. Also, after five, we're going to
look at the issue of the planes in Fukatana. Have
you got a flight from Auckland Fakatana? Beautiful, beautiful, scenic,
lovely flight. But the root's been losing money like a

(14:47):
hole in a bucket, a million dollars since twenty twenty
two they have lost on that route. So regional routes
are very, very expensive. They are very hard to maintain
and for Chathams it's not looking good. I've asked for
some help from the council. I'll tell you about what
exactly it is they want help with. That'll be after
five to two, as well as Grant Dobson come out next.

(15:07):
We'll be in the US with Dan Mitchison here on
News Talks.

Speaker 9 (15:10):
B we can we can dance on nine, she said,
Or Hi, nice to meet you.

Speaker 10 (15:27):
Two nine Maybe we Google does get up a fuffy
she said, is life forever?

Speaker 2 (15:36):
So you to get there?

Speaker 10 (15:37):
Then let's lead or repy we can danz we can
dance all nine.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
Putting the challenging questions to the people. At the heart
of the story, it's Ryan Bridge on Hither Duplicy allan
drive with one New Zealand let's get connected and News
Talks it be.

Speaker 11 (15:56):
To the ways when you mean any care way there
you there when you.

Speaker 9 (16:02):
Get am good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
It is twenty five away from five news talks the'd
be So we're about to be flooded, if the economists
are to be believed, We're about to be flooded, drowning
in TEAMU and Sheene products cheap ones even cheaper than
what you get now. At the moment, you can pay
two dollars and get a car. And now it'll be
one dollar for a car. Because the tariffs that America

(16:24):
will impose and would make those goods more expensive in
the US, they will buy less. Therefore they will need
to send them somewhere, and they will likely send them
to countries like ours. Do you buy stuff from Timu?
I've bought a couple of things from Timu, and honestly,
you look, I kind of got sucked in by the video,
sucked in by the photo. And it looked like something
for my car, A little vacuum cleaner for my car.

(16:48):
Looks like it would do a good job. And I
bought it. And it is the size of my fingernail.
It's tiny. It's almost like a toy, you know, like
it's a joke. They're just pranking you when you buy
something off Timu. The other thing I bought was a lamb,
which you know, there is more light from my mobile phone. Seriously,
and because I wanted a reading lamp. There is more
light from my mobile phone, plus the bat the plug.

(17:10):
When you plug it into the wall, you need an adapter.
It's like a Chinese plug. So it's a complete waste
of time in my opinion. I don't care if it's
half the price, or even a quarter of the price.
I won't be going there again. I've learned my lesson.
Twenty four away from five, it's.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
The world wires on news talks.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
They'd be drive starting stateside, we'll go to the White House.
Trump's been loving on Elon.

Speaker 12 (17:31):
And I don't care.

Speaker 13 (17:32):
I don't need Elon for anything other than I happen
to like them. But I'm telling you this guy, this
guy did a fantastic job.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
I don't need his car.

Speaker 13 (17:40):
I actually bought one because and they said, oh, did
you get a bargain.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
No, I said, give me the top price. I've paid
a lot of money for that car.

Speaker 14 (17:47):
You know what to do with it.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
I let the people in the office drive around in it.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Rfk Jr. Is promising to get to the bottom of
the autism epidemic, and we are going.

Speaker 15 (17:59):
To you're we are going to know by September fifth,
launch a massive testing and research effort that's going to
involve hundreds of scientists from around the world. Hi September,
we will know what has caused you a epidemic and
we'll be able to eliminate those exposoris.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Okay Lutnik, on the other hand, he's been praising Trump's tariffs.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
It's incredible.

Speaker 16 (18:24):
I think Scott and I I'm not sure we could
ever have enough time in the day to talk to
all these countries because they want to talk, and they
want to talk now, and they have come with offers
that they never ever ever would have come with.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
We're getting the respect we deserve now.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
So to Europe. Now, Zelenski comes out. He says there
are one hundred and fifty five Chinese citizens fighting for
Russia against Ukraine and China now heading back.

Speaker 17 (18:47):
His comments come after two Chinese fighters were captured earlier
this week, marking Kiev's first official allegation that China was
applying Russia with manpower. Beijing says the claim that it's
true at a fighting for Russia has no factual basis
as saying China is neither the creator nor a party
to the Ukrainian crisis.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Finally, this afternoon, and the things I didn't write, an
Alaska woman has broken a Guinness World Record for her
massive mouth gape, measuring in at seven and a half
centimeters wide.

Speaker 18 (19:20):
I kind of have always.

Speaker 19 (19:22):
Known that I have a very tall mouth, and it
always confusing me when people are like, oh, light bulbs
are you know, don't put them in your mouth.

Speaker 20 (19:28):
They get stuck.

Speaker 21 (19:28):
But they never got stuck in my mouth.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
She can reportedly fit five ginger pieces stacked together.

Speaker 21 (19:37):
In Now.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind
for New Zealand Business, The Sign.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Of a Good Wife. Dan Mitchison, our US correspondent with
US Now, Hi, Dan USA, Assay, you guys are just
absolutely crushing it. Hey, let's start with Donald Trump acknowledging
finally that the couple of teething issues with the tariffs.

Speaker 22 (20:04):
Yes, he did say there's some transition problems with the policies,
and his teams are working on some deals.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
And he had this to say, we're.

Speaker 13 (20:12):
Doing very well again, there'll be a transition cost and
transition problems, but in the end it's going to be
it's going to be a beautiful thing.

Speaker 22 (20:24):
Yeah, stocks were down today, although I'm just looking at
the futures right now ahead of the opening bell tomorrow
and it looks like they're up for the most part.
But you know, with the tariffs on all these good
sort of paused except for China, which is now at
one hundred and forty five percent, which was higher than
we thought. And I guess that had to do with
tariffs that had been previously put on fentanyl, which is
a big drug problem here in the US. But we'll

(20:45):
see if this ninety day pause is for the better
for the worse. And honestly, Ryan, I don't know if
it's one or the other at this point.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, no, I don't think anyone does. Today. What about
the helicopter. I watched this video of the helicopter crashing
into the Hudson River and it looked like it split
a pot in the media. What happened? Do we know
it didn't know?

Speaker 22 (21:06):
They're still investigating this right now. I mean, you know,
the first thing people think of is often as it's
an operator error or weather. We had six people total,
three adults and three children that died this afternoon in Manhattan.
This was a family from Spain and it just lost
control after it turned at the George Washington Bridge to
go along the Jersey shoreline. And the winds were pretty mild.

(21:29):
I mean it was you know, nine ten miles an hour.
The visibility was good. There'd been some rain but not
at the time of the flight, and the ceiling was like,
it's seven thousand feet. So right now they're saying all
the data that they're getting for that flight, it shows
that the altitude was about a thousand feet at the highest,
so that's below the cloud ceiling. So nobody right now
exactly knows what happened, but it's just, you know, another

(21:51):
tragic air accident. We've seen quite a few of those
here in the US in the last few months.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Who's this athlete going to get a billion dollar contract?

Speaker 22 (22:00):
And that is the billion dollar question.

Speaker 14 (22:01):
We do not know.

Speaker 22 (22:02):
Is there a ceiling when it comes to the amount
that a baseball player or a rugby player or a
soccer player can and should make. There was a Los
Angeles Dodger baseball player that just signed two seasons ago
for a ten year, seven hundred million dollar agreement. There
was another one that got about seven hundred and sixty
five million with the New York Mets this past winter.
And so the former general manager of the Cincinnati Reds

(22:23):
over here he is projecting that the one billion dollar
threshold could be crossed in just a few years, by
twenty thirty. Now, we don't know where in the world.
Is it going to be a football player or a
soccer player? Well, I don't think it'll be a rugby player.
It could be a basketball player. But the question is
if that player does cross that threshold, and it will
be when I mean, I mean who pays for these contracts?

(22:45):
I mean, obviously the teams do, but it gets passed
on to the fans, doesn't it ticket prices and broadcast
rights and parking and merchandise. So how much are fans
willing to pay? And I'm wondering, you know, as a fan,
if these paychecks turn off anyone, or if they say,
you know what, hey, we don't care as long as
our team's winning.

Speaker 3 (23:03):
Yeah, well exactly, And if you're winning, then they're worth
the money, right Dan, Thank you for that, Dan Mitchison.
Our US correspondent. Time is eighteen away from five. Barry
Sope here with us next. Lots of texts coming in
from people who love Timu and love Sheen, and we're
about to get apparently get flooded with goods from Timu
and Jean from China that will be half the price
of the very affordable price they already come at. This

(23:25):
one from Sandra Ryan. Most things I've had from Timu
have been fabulous, especially pottery tools and a douvet and
a blanket. The only thing I did not like was
the pure copper wire wool to burn onto my pots.
The pure copper wool was actually plastic. And everyone who
says that no matter whether people say they like it
or they don't like it, if you complain, apparently it's

(23:47):
just an instant refund. They don't even ask questions. So
do we just go on there, buy a bunch of stuff, complain,
pay for nothing. Let's give it a go. Seventeen away
from five News Talks, I'd be.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Polity with centric credit, check your customers and get payments certainty.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Call it to five on News Talks. There'd be Barry Soaper,
senior political correspondent.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
Here.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
It's our last chat this week. There, I've enjoyed. I've
been very much enjoyed working with you again.

Speaker 18 (24:13):
Thank you very much. And we've worked together over the
years many times we have.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
Now let's get into it lux and defending his absence
from part I don't think he should have been there
for that reading of the Treaty Bill.

Speaker 18 (24:22):
In the slightest it had made his position quite clear.
What would he have to say during that debate, I
mean really nothing. He wouldn't have wouldn't have added anything
to it. I think he did the right thing while
he he did what normally prime ministers do on Thursdays.
They're never at Parliament and it's very rare, indeed that

(24:43):
you'd get a prime minister to speak during a piece
of legislation at that particular stage in the House anyway,
but it was interesting. Winston Peters, who's in Tongua today said,
and I quote I'll quote this because the audio quality
we got was never that good. He said, we should
be patient to see what settles here. Wait till the

(25:04):
dust settles. We don't know where this thing is going.
It's talking about tariffs, but let us find out before
we make any further comment or make any unnecessary comment
that may annoy somebody. While he's clearly referring to Trump there,
and we know yesterday he was Luckson wasn't in the house.
Certainly the advice that was offered by Winston, who seemed

(25:27):
to say he's being premature. This is Luxon doing what
he did yesterday. He was asked why he wasn't today
he was why he wasn't fronting up in Parliament yesterday
to speak to the Final Treaty Settlement's Bill. He lucks
And says, essentially he.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Was too busy.

Speaker 23 (25:46):
Over the course of yesterday, I was doing three things really.
One was reaching out to key bilateral partners for New
Zealander to say, what more could we be doing together
in a will where we have a like minded approach
to trade? Why don't what more can we be doing
to turn this up our second leader to sort of
understand how they have been interpreting the events of the
last week and what that means for them and their economies.

(26:06):
And then thirdly making the case that you know, we
should be reaffirming the principles of free trade together. So
whether that's in an ICM block, whether it's in a
CPTPP block. I also spoke to the President of the
European Union last night and our conversation was, you know,
if you think about the twenty seven countries in the EU,
if you think about the CPTPP countries, how do we

(26:27):
not introduce new impediments to trade moving around the world.
We will continue to work constructively with the US. The
US is obviously thirteen percent of global trade, but there
are also other trading blocks that actually just you know,
are like minded, and we'll continue to keep working hard there.

Speaker 18 (26:44):
Yeah, and I think you did exactly the right thing.
And let's hope the talks that he did have come
to some sort of ruis.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
Because you want to show leadership at a time like this,
but you can't be the leader that bashes Trump. So
you go for the positive, which is, let's talk up
the spouse to trade trade. Let's talk rule based trade,
all right, even if Winston doesn't like him doing it. Now,
Winston certainly wouldn't be liking this phil Goff having another crack.

Speaker 18 (27:09):
Well, you know, he you can imagine Phil Goff because
he's he's a man that has a lot of convictions
and sitting as a diplomat in London when Trump is
doing what he's doing, and having to keep mum about
it must have been hard. While he opened up. He's
at Auckland University last night and he opened up. He

(27:30):
said that now his freedom, new found freedom to denounce Trump,
has been a great thing. He feels free. He said
it was obvious to him that Trump doesn't understand history,
and that's what that question that the Chatham House was
all about. Otherwise he wouldn't have embarked on a pathway
of appeasement to putin knowing the precedent for that. In Europe, Interestingly,

(27:55):
the Ukrainian thing has really sort of gone right into
the background now, Oh hasn't it. I mean Russia isn't
getting any trade tariffs against it, and the talks who
knows where they are. The Russians are still bombing.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
The Ukraine absolutely. Now Winston Peters turns the ripe old
age of eighty today.

Speaker 18 (28:15):
It's incredible, isn't it. Look it got me thinking about
all Winston. I remember the first time I met him.
And I've been in dare I say it in Parliament
longer than Winston has been, but I met him in
nineteen eighty one. He was introduced to me at a
National Party conference Dunedin by Don McKinnon, and Winston immediately

(28:35):
started with an argument when he met me. He accused
me of badgering his predecessor and driving him to an
early grave. You remember it was Keith Allen who was
known for the Ministry of silly Walks when he was
coming home hypoglycemic from Balamese one night after parliament. So
we got over that. But in the MMP election there

(28:58):
was one other story that I reminded him south of that.
After the nineteen ninety six election, just prior to it,
I was having a drink with Winston out on the
campaign trail and Winston said, as I was leaving, we're
going to win twenty three seats on Saturday. I said, no,
you're not. You're going to win seventeen. He said, I'll
beat you the best case of New Zealand Schardonay, that

(29:19):
will win twenty three. Well, come to the election. They
won seventeen. Took me several weeks before I got the
case of wine wasn't Chardona Shardona, though it came from
mills Reef, which was the vineyard in his own electorate.
I hadn't heard of it and he said, just goes
to show how much you know about wine. But I
knew enough to know that the labels weren't regular labels.

(29:43):
They had Winston Peter's campaign photo on the labels and
it was saving on blanc be not the best New Zealand, so.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
You know, but look hard way to keeping a good bet.

Speaker 18 (29:54):
He's had a remarkable career, hasn't he dislike him?

Speaker 22 (29:58):
Job?

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Half a century? Half a century? It's incredible. Now, Barry,
this will be our last chat for a wee while, well,
we're going to be talking later. We'll talk later on.
But Heather's coming back yep from Monday, which is great.

Speaker 18 (30:12):
Yes, and you're going to be off doing goee eternal duties.
I did it with our little one who's three now,
and I did it much longer than I'm doing this one.
I'm doing this one for three months. But it's great.
It's one thing about good about being an older dad
that you can actually do this when I was younger
with my first family, the oldest of which turned forty

(30:34):
three just the other day. So the little baby has
got a forty three year old sister, and it's incredible
that I never had the time then got the time now,
and look I reveled and looking after our little boy,
and I'm sure I'll do the same with our daughter.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
I'm sure you will too, And I know that the
listeners will be pleased to have you back in a
few months once, once you're sick and tired of that
the dragon ja. Yeah, actually I was thinking about Barry
because I'm going to go back to doing the more
warnings obviously, so I'm finished quite early, so we might
both be free for some day drinking.

Speaker 18 (31:05):
Of course you can go well, bring allowed to drink
with the baby.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
We bring the baby along. Yeah, right, good to see
you very well. See you later on. It is eight
to five News Talk ZIBB putting.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
The tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking Breakfast.

Speaker 24 (31:19):
Asia Business Corresponding Peter Lewis withers, but one forty five
for China, is that a completely separate thing that will
unfold in its own way, or because China is China,
we're all in this together.

Speaker 6 (31:29):
I think in some ways we're all in this together
because what happens to the Chinese economy coffects the rest
of Asia. About fifteen percent of China's economy depends upon exports.
Around fifteen percent of that goes to the US, so
this could easily shave off a couple of percent off
of China's GDP because when how it's are one hundred
and forty five percent. Trade between those two countries has

(31:52):
come to a complete.

Speaker 24 (31:53):
Hark back Monday from six am, the mic asking Breakfast
with the Rain Driver, the last News Talk ZIBB.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
It has just gone four minutes away from five o'clock.
Can I just say thank you to everybody who's sending
such lovely messages? Well, I guess saying goodbye for now.
Heather is back with you on Monday, and I will
be back in the mornings. Many of you are saying, look,
it's too early for me to get up, Janine, just
change your schedule, Okay, get up early, set an alarm.
I'm not having this nonsense. Same goes for you, Grant,

(32:21):
and same goes for you Gwen. Now this is interesting,
this is out a way. Actually you haven't got time.
Now we're good A minute, good a minute. So opening
the lid on what's really been going on in the
military across the Indo Pacific, His Admiral Samuel Papara, he's
the head of the US Indo Pacific Command. He's come
out and said China has provided seventy percent of the

(32:41):
machine tools and ninety percent of the chips to Russia
to rebuild its war machine. In other words, not only China,
but North Korea quite instrumental in helping Russia against Ukraine.
Some of the numbers in here are quite staggering. They
reckon North Korea is sending thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands

(33:01):
of artillery shells and thousands of short range missiles to Russia.
The expectation in return is that Pyongyang will get air
defense and surface to air missile support from China. I
mean this is you know, their friends, you know something's
going on, but didn't quite know it was that extensive.

(33:21):
It's coming up to five o'clock News Talks here. B
Chris Pink on the veterans, Next.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Questions, Answers, facts, analysis, the drive show you trust for
the full picture. Brian Bridge on Heather Dupless Allen Drive
with One New Zealand Let's get Connected.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
News talks AB Good Evening at a seven half to
five News Talks hered B Grant Dolton standing by on
Peter Berling. Right now the government broadening the definition today
of who is an official veteran. This will cover more
former soldiers, sailors, aviators, but they're not going to get
extra compensation or pensions. Chris penk is the minister with
me now, hime minister.

Speaker 25 (34:15):
Good evening.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
So who are you extending this to.

Speaker 25 (34:18):
Well, it's everyone who has served in our armed forces
effectively for three years or more, although if you've gone
on a deployment and you're within that period of time,
you'd be recognized as a veteran. And the point is
that a lot of people join up and serve in
uniforman proudly represent the country and do all the right things.
And actually there's a slightly insulting I think some have said, actually,

(34:40):
and I think they're right that there's an official definition
of veteran on our statute book that actually precludes them.
So we're doing something about that.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
So veteran will be even if you haven't served overseas,
you've been based in New Zealand, you can still be
called a veteran.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 25 (34:55):
And there are things that the Defense Force do in
New Zealand are actually quite significant if you think about,
you know, loss of life following earthquakes for Carli White Islands.
You know, dare I say that the covid roles, I.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Don't think they liked that.

Speaker 25 (35:09):
That's all the more reason for them to be recognized.
That they do as they're told and they serve us,
you know, in whatever the way that the government of
the days, that should be recognized.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
So why not give them if you want to recognize them,
why not give, as Willie A. Piata argued, give them
the support as well as the title.

Speaker 25 (35:28):
Yeah, I mean there are important ways that we can
support contemporary veterans more. And actually that's part of the
reason that we're broadening out the idea of a veteran.
I think if you had to be asked to describe one,
you might say older, a male having served in you know,
one of the World Wars or Vietnam. But the reality
is that actually there are a lot of needs that
need to be taken into account that aren't currently so

(35:51):
contemporary veterans and mental health is a major issues, for example,
So broadening that conversation actually will be helpful in potential
while protecting the support and titles are available for those
who were injured or l in that qualifying operational service.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
So will anyone get extra supporter or entitlements because of
the change that you've made.

Speaker 25 (36:10):
Not under the Veteran Support Act, but by having well,
first of all, by administering that better, by reducing the
time frames that people who are entitled actually get something
meaningful that they're already entitled to. That's a bit of
what we're doing. But actually the recognition, even though you
might think is just symbolic, you know, the symbols and
feeling valued and recognized, is actually really important to people.

(36:30):
They'll do anything for a medal, which, if you want
to reduce it is just a bit of iron with
a bit of ribbon, but actually it means something, so
I think, you know, and certainly the feedback I've been
getting this afternoon is people are really pleased that actually
they're going to feel valued in a way that that
many of them haven't until now.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Chris Penk, Chris pink Rather are the Veterans Minister, Thanks
so much of your time. Appreciate it. Ten after five
Ran Rich big surprise move today Peter Berling and Team
New Zealand parting ways. This after a very successful ten
years for the Skipper Helm Grant Dalton is the Team
New Zealand chief executive grunt Hey, Ryan, So what's the

(37:05):
reason why is he leaving?

Speaker 21 (37:08):
Well, we just ran out of time. Basically, we've been
talking since Barcelona and need certainty put out an offer
in front of him from us, and honestly, we never
really got to the point of rejecting or either way
on the offer. I ended up pulling the offer because
we just couldn't get going. And it's yeah, it's a

(37:32):
sad day, but Teams one hundred and twenty people, we've
got an America's cart where a new completely uncharted territory
trying to win it for the fourth time, and we've
got to get going.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
So you actually pulled the offer?

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Is it?

Speaker 14 (37:46):
Why?

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Was he just taking his time or was there a
particular issue over something in the contract?

Speaker 21 (37:53):
Yeah, I mean that's that's a fair question. I think
there's two elements really too. There's one is time and
the other is money. And we never already got to
other than you know, this guy's office overseas that gets
paid out of a lot. That was about as far
as we got on the money relative to the offer
that I'd put on the table, which in Team New

(38:13):
Zellan's terms was a big number and time. I mean
twenty seven the Cups in twenty seven, we're in twenty
five now. Now, I know that sounds a normal sport
quite a long time, but we actually start building a
boat at the end of the year, a new boat,
so it's coming out as fast and a fast as cycle.
And so although we can accommodate to a point, twenty

(38:35):
seven is a pretty much unaccommodating year for us. We've
got to have our people in place all the time,
and there's one hundred and nineteen other people that are
there to win the cup and completely permitted. So look,
Pete's had amazing contribution and we leave on on great terms.

(38:56):
There's nothing in it any more than that. And I
know that people would try and sensationalize this somehow, but
it's just it's not like that. You know, we've been
beating me having chatting this morning.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
In fact, it sounds like you might have called us
bluff though, you know, so he's he's obviously got an
expectation about what he wants and you weren't prepared to
go there or whatever, so you just pulled the offer.

Speaker 21 (39:21):
I think calls Bluff's not the right way to describe it.
It's possible that he didn't believe that this could ever happen,
and you know, and hindsight may be a wonderful thing
for him and maybe for us. Well let's see in
twenty seven. But you know, we had to get going.
We had from that position of where he was. Really

(39:44):
the sailing team develops. We've retained, you know, the guys
that we want from last time, and they're all world classed,
there's no doubt of that. But the sailing teams are
very much an important part of integrating with the design team.
They're not isolating in that respect, and that's one of
the strengths of the team, of course, combining people and

(40:06):
as I say, we needed certainty and we couldn't come
to an agreement on that certainty. So look, it's not
any more complicated than that. And where Pete's had an
immense contribution to the team. I don't think either of
us we certainly didn't start and needed it to end
up in the spot. But here we are.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Is sale GP a problem for you? Is it going
to be a problem for you in terms of keeping sailors,
you know, retaining them if they're spreading their time elsewhere.

Speaker 21 (40:39):
Well, all our sailors actually are insul GP. So in
that respect, guys have got a race.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
You know.

Speaker 21 (40:46):
It's like you can't just turn up at the World
Cup rugby. I mean I played footy, so it's good
from that respect. It's a league and they're completely complementary
and so much as you know, if you're like, we're
the World Cup and the Champions League if you like,
so it's only good for the sport. But it just
becomes a time when they clash, and I think they

(41:08):
all clash in twenty seven. Then it's naive of anybody
to think that you can do both. So Team Muzell's
job is to come, you know, to win the fourth
for the fourth time. I mean three times. Was never
been done before, the people had tried. Nobody's even has
come into this uncharted territory of the four and rinse

(41:31):
and repeating won't work. It's just teams don't work that way.
They actually go backwards. So we have to revitalize, reinvigorate
and bring a new talent as well. And there's some
seriously fast kids around, you know, as people would attest to.
You know, he was that head with his boat on
the roof rack that came to see me in two

(41:52):
twenty thirteen, and there's those tips are around again.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Do you hold any grudges against the government for not
putting chipping money and to keep amid the America's Cup
in Auckland?

Speaker 21 (42:04):
Oh Christ no, no, no, no, no, no, no no,
we've completely aligned on the fact that there are priorities Crichium.
Even since that announcement, the world's gone nuts again. What
a great time to be doing an America's Cup at
the moment. So no, not at all. We would like

(42:25):
to It was genuine, you know. Basically the numbers have
been slightly embellished by envy, like they're quite good at doing.
It was never seventy five million. I'm okay, five millions
a lot of money, I get it, But it wasn't
seventy five.

Speaker 4 (42:37):
It was like forty.

Speaker 21 (42:38):
And they've added in the police, customs, airports staff, you know,
stuff that just makes the number look better if you're
trying to reject the number in that movie. But it's
a shame because it doesn't make it any easier to
have the cutback. In New Zealand, however, we have only
one objective, and we've only this has sort of caused

(43:00):
the problem in the first place. In twenty one, our
objectives is to win and anything else is completely secondary.
So we're going offshore again, but we're still going offshore
to win.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
And just finally, any other of your crew are you
worried about any other of your crew not being with
you in twenty twenty seven? You know, will Blair be there?
Will everyone else be there?

Speaker 21 (43:24):
Well, Blair is the obvious question, and everyone asked because
you know, Pete and Blair Bla and Pete and joined
at the hip, and yeah, exactly, And they're quite different
in one respect. I mean, they're both immensely talent today,
but Blair is more able to be more mobile because
of the role he fits within the team. So he's

(43:44):
more like a super sub, whereas Pete was integral to
that whole kind of sailing team development and into the
design team. Now they all have him put Blair, particularly
into foils for example, but he's more audible as such.
And you know where in the process of hopefully putting
together the deal with a deal together with Blair, he

(44:07):
certainly wants to stay and we wanted to stay, all right.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
Grant have to leave it there. Appreciate your time. Grant Dalton,
the Team New Zealand Chief executive with us talking about
the departure of Peter Burling. End of an era, Really,
isn't it seventeen after five news talks. I've got a
few thoughts on that, and so do you looking at
the text machine. We'll get to them shortly plus eighty
years of Winston Peters will say Happy birthday.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
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Speaker 2 (45:14):
Brian Bridge gone.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
Twenty one after five. Now the rift between Winston Peters
and our Prime Minister seems to be widening this afternoon.
I'll get to that in just a second. But there's
another thing to mark, and that is Winston Peter's eighty
year birthday. Today. We've collated some of his most unique
quotes to celebrate. This one's for you, Winston Tat.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
What is pushing galore?

Speaker 26 (45:48):
Men?

Speaker 27 (45:48):
What does it mean with all those photographs?

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Shame more?

Speaker 14 (45:50):
Men?

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Shut up and go, Shut up and go.

Speaker 18 (45:54):
You don't don't get an air cut.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
We're gonna have declare a war on woke.

Speaker 27 (46:00):
We're not wasting our time with a present bunch of
unreformed losers. You don't shout out like some bunch of
clouds university. You're in turn, don't just carry on like
a bigoted lefty shield and woke idiotic left with the ideas.
You're talking about a beat of cuckold who's got so
much integrity he has to get another party of pop
them up. Oh, for goodness, say David seamounis covered as Manus,

(46:21):
the same way Columbus discovered America beauty by accident. No no, no,
on the Mariah Meghan, you keep quiet. No no, As
the founder of on the Cooma Royal said, Winston is
not Andi Maray, He's just anti nonsense.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Yes, happy birthday, Winston. Peter's his owner in the Pacific
at the moment, so probably won't be listening to this broadcast.
But did you know he's been elected fifteen times since
he entered parliament in nineteen seventy eight. Very quickly an
update on Winston and Luxon. So Winston Peters has now
come out and said that, and he's referring to Christopher

(47:02):
Luxon needs to quote tone down the retrick. He told
arin z He that he had not been consulted by
Luxon ahead of Luxon going ahead and making all those
calls to the foreign leaders. He says, quote, I hope
that he'll get my message and he'll call me next time.
So bitter beef between the two of them. Twenty three
after five News Talk SVB.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Checking the point of the story.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
It's Ryan Bridge, John Heather dupas Allen Drive with One
New Zealand, Let's get connected.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
News Talk Seb five, twenty five on News Talk saidb
what else do you call it? But calling is bluff.
This is the Team New Zealand divorce from Peter Berling
that's been announced today. So we spoke to Grant Dalton
earlier in the show. Berlin gets off at a contract.
There's a written contract on the table right and by
Dalton's account, it's a big number. There is a big

(47:52):
number in terms of Team New Zealand dollars sitting on
the table there with it doesn't get signed. Why don't
you sign a contract, Well, because you either don't like
the deal the terms that are in there, or you're
negotiating off off with someone else for a better one.
So then contract doesn't get signed. Right then Dalton pulls

(48:14):
the offer. That's what he told us tonight. He pulled
the offer. Berlin, he said he doesn't think was expecting that.
What else do you call that? Other than he called
us bluff? Bad off the sale GP He goes, I
guess to collect millions somewhere else, but not with Team
New Zealand and not in the twenty twenty seven America's Cut.

(48:35):
The thirty eighth twenty seven, after five hour news talks,
here'd be We've got the sports huddle next, and just
how environmentally friendly is the stuff you're buying from? Timor Arnie.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
After making the news, the newsmakers talk to Ryan First.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
It's Ryan Bridge on.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
Hither Duplicy allan drive with one New Zealand Let's get connected.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
News Talk said B.

Speaker 28 (49:16):
Hi, nice to meet your too, Hi, Leab you Google
does get up off up, The jees said, he's life forever,
so he together.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
When he brought it away from six year old news
Talk said B it's not breaking news, but it is
news on the Herald this afternoon that Stuart Nash, who's
a regular on this program and many others, is not
ruling out a heelp for New Zealand First at the
next election. We've actually asked him, sorry, old News, We've
actually asked him this ages ago, because the rumor has
been going during the rounds for a long time, and

(49:52):
he says in this piece not rolling it out. And
then New Zealand First says, well, we haven't even talked
about candidates yet, so I don't know. Maybe him and
Winston have got a spit in the hand kind of
handshake deal. I don't know, but I don't think so,
because otherwise he would be saying more than he's saying.
He's just not ruling anything out. Interestingly, and he has
come on here and had a whack it labor. But

(50:14):
interesting in this piece he says, I think labor is
losing touch with the people who return it to power
in twenty twenty and gave them power in twenty seventeen.
So there you go. The cool aid is well and
surely being washed out of his system, no longer the
victim of Stockholm syndrome. Twenty four away from six Ryan Bridge.
Chinese retailers like Timu and Sheen, if you've used these before,

(50:36):
they could be looking to step up their influence here
in New Zealand. This, of course, after Trump's put one
hundred and forty five percent tariff right on China. The
e commerce giants now will have excess stock. Where does
it go potentially to us? So will we get cheaper stuff?
Is that a good thing? Kate Haul's the founder of
Ethically Kate Kate. Good afternoon or good evening, Hello, good evening.

(50:57):
Good to have you on the show. So you won't
like this because it's a whole bunch of cheap plastic
stuff basically that will come our way.

Speaker 20 (51:04):
Yes, And to be honest, it has already been coming
our way all different people in different social circles. A
lot of people I know have already been consumers of Temu.
And yeah, unfortunately, I think it's just going to get worse.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Do you think, Because I was thinking about you the
other day, if we if we're not going to you know,
if trade world, global trade was going to fall apart,
I was like, how would what would I actually what
do I own that would last a lifetime? I couldn't.
There was a pair of leather boots, but these days,
no one has anything that will last a lifetime, apart
from maybe jewelry and you know, one pair of shoes.

Speaker 18 (51:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're so right.

Speaker 20 (51:42):
And I'd say most purchases I've heard from people who
have purchased from Timu don't last. It just turns into
rubbish that they then need to dispose of. And we
would do totally fine if we didn't have availability to Temo.
I think most purchases people make on there. You look
at all the different gadgets and the different types of
things that are just ridiculous. We don't need We've lived

(52:05):
centuries without, so we can go back to basics.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
How many do you think, like, if you've got something
that's really good, do you reckon? You could do your
whole life because you're ethically caked. So if anyone can
do it, Kate, it's you.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Do you reckon?

Speaker 3 (52:17):
You could do your whole life with one coat, one
pair of shoes. I mean, obviously you need to change
of nickers and stuff, but your coat and your shoes, yep.

Speaker 20 (52:27):
I would say that it is sizing issues different. I'm
also I've experienced that been pregnant the last several months.
You know, our different bodies fluctuate and change. But I think,
imagine if we just had, you know, everyone kind of
had that one pair of shoes and then there could
be some trading involved. I often dream of this type
of reality that we just, you know, had that one

(52:49):
pair and then there's trading with different sizes. I've been
traveling for the past two months and living with not
much at all. I just have the one coat, one cardigan,
which I doubler for warmth, and it's so refreshing, saves
lots of money, and it just makes life so much
more simple.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
But Kate, do you smell? Do I don't smell?

Speaker 20 (53:10):
I would say it is funny people, I've heard rumors.
You know, I've been called a smelly hippie many times
in my life, but they don't realize that probably commited
to a lot of people. My hygiene standards are actually
quite high. I used to be a professional cleaner for
a little bit in my life, and I am very
aware and check with multiple people. If I smell, yeah,

(53:33):
it's it's you.

Speaker 14 (53:35):
Let me know.

Speaker 20 (53:35):
If anyone does smell me, they see me out and about.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
I'm just pleased it's radio. I'm pleased it's ready. But
do you think because you wear the same clothes over
and over, you're probably more conscious of it and therefore
more aware and probably clean yourself more well.

Speaker 20 (53:50):
Yeah, because also you know, I'm looking right now at
this coach that I've been wearing for the last two months,
and that actually made from uplack of quilts, and I
was looking at thinking and I smelt it, and kind
of I have much more time to look over each
garment and see you are there any threads they're going
to fall apart?

Speaker 14 (54:10):
You know?

Speaker 20 (54:11):
Is there any kind of a pair that needs to
be down. I have much more time to invest time,
money and energy and cleaning and washing and focusing on
keeping these garments alive, because I don't have heaps of
them that are just kind of sprawled everywhere that I
just kind of discard as disposable skin. At the end
of the day, I'm really aware of how something you

(54:31):
know is going the wellbeing of the garment.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Good on you, Kate, Nice to have you on the show.
Kate Hall, Kate with her quilt coat, founder of Ethically
Kate twenty to six.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
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Speaker 21 (54:58):
We just could not put a together between us based
on time, I guess primarily, but we never even got
to the stage of diffin breeing on money, even though
I think the often weekut in front of him was
hugely reasonable.

Speaker 19 (55:10):
Obviously, he was a Kiwi that drove for BJR, the
same team as me, and he was number eight two,
which is the same number as me. So when we
come here there's a bit more intensity, a bit more
motion about it, but.

Speaker 5 (55:21):
It's the full time defending Premiers who have now lost
five games in a row, languishing.

Speaker 2 (55:27):
In the bottom part of the table. Full time at s.

Speaker 24 (55:30):
Uncle the Dolphins thirty have defeated a pantheras twelve.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Nineteen to Sex News Talks, He've been Matt Brown, OC
communications manager on the Huddle tonight. Hey Matt, Ryan, good
to have you back. And Darcy water Graves here, hosts
of Sports Talk and the Sports Fix podcast Darcy, Good evening,
and you.

Speaker 12 (55:51):
Will Sport Breakfast on Saturday morning.

Speaker 18 (55:52):
Hello Ryan, how are you?

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Could you get a shorter job title? Hey, Peter Berling
at the moment doesn't have a job title. Did you
hear Matt the interview? I'm hoping you were tuning in?
Of course, after five we spoke to grind Dalton about this.
He said, look, there was a big number in the contract.
It wasn't signed, so he pulled the offer.

Speaker 14 (56:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (56:13):
Look, I could caught the last couple of minutes of
the interview, so not the full interview, but from what
I've read today, it certainly sounds like for me and
I was close to the America's Cup a few years ago,
you know, working at ZB and Peter Berling, you know,
proud care. We really committed to that team, but I
think it could be it's a business decision. At the
end of the day, America's Cup becomes such big business.

(56:34):
And you know, Dean Barker was the skipper and he
went off to America and Magic after he got dropped
by Team New Zealand. Different circumstances this time, but I
just wonder whether there could be an offer cooking elsewhere
for Peter Berlin and maybe it's time for him to change.
I mean, he's won the America's Cup three times with
Team New Zealand, and you know, it's business. It's not
as much about neightionhood as what it perhaps used to be.

Speaker 12 (56:56):
There are three big things here and I think one
of them is being wildly overlooked. Well, one's pretty obvious.
He has got sale GP, which is the CEO of
he runs. He's got a lot of work on his
plate dealing with that and that is a huge commitment
across the globe. Okay, so that's one big thing. Seeking
big thing, Grant Dalton. Not everybody is driven by money,
So I'd suggest this, matter how big your offer is,

(57:18):
if he doesn't want to do it, he doesn't want
to do it then telling The third one is this
he's become a dad. You know, I think that people
don't understand that when you become a parent for the
first time, that is your entire focus. He's got sale GP.
Does he really want to be locked in his shed
eighteen hours a day for the next two years designing

(57:41):
a boat to go and sail?

Speaker 3 (57:42):
Some of the why wouldn't you say that? Though? Why
wouldn't you say? I don't for these reasons, I'm not
signing the contract as it stands. What we know is
that it just went silent, and then Dalton pulls the contract.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Well if we talk.

Speaker 11 (57:57):
Sorry, You've got to remember now that the cycle is
so much shorter. It's not the big four or five
years between regattas, It's a couple of years. So it
could be as simple as maybe he wants to sit
out the next cycle, as Darcy just said, Look, he
has become a father. Maybe with the commitment to sar
GP needs to sit out a cycle. I have no
doubt he will return to the America's Cup at some point,

(58:18):
whether it's the next one the one after that, he
will be back. But yeah, it could be as simple
as the fact that these cycles are so close together.
Now maybe he needs a break.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
All right, we're going to talk about the number of
people now watching Super Rugby when the huddle returns. Matt
Brown and Darcy Walter Grave.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
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Speaker 3 (58:42):
Reach Friday Sport thirteen to six. Matt Brown OFC Communications
manager in Darcy Watergrave from News Talks A B I know,
I was, honestly, it's like such a mouthful, Darcy. I
can't do it every time. Now let's talk about Super Rugby.
The viewing numbers are quite impressive this year, so a
twelve percent increase in New Zealand, Matt, and a thirty

(59:03):
percent increase in Australia now out rating the NRL.

Speaker 12 (59:07):
Yeah that I mean our staggering stats.

Speaker 11 (59:09):
I'm not surprised in terms of the ratings being up
because the product has been good this year. Anyone can
beat anyone one Australian team less in the competition what
eleven teams Now, the Australian sides have got better. That
talent pool has been spread and they are you know,
all of them can kind of beat the New Zealand
side now in any given day and it's just been

(59:30):
good rugby, a lot of good footy, entertaining open games
by and large. I think last weekend's Blues match was
probably the exception in Maaia. Pacifica have brought so much
to it. I heard you saying earlier with Jason plain
about are they the number one team in Auckland or
the number one team to support up here? And they're
certainly one of the one of the teams to support
because of the way they play. They are all action. Yeah,

(59:53):
it's an entertaining product. So certainly the ratings you know,
clearly show that. And look, the NRL is still a
great product too, and here's always going to be the
competition between the coats.

Speaker 12 (01:00:03):
But but I just think there's a lot of good
footing and that's why people are chuning in twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Percent of what that's twelve percent increase increase from yours.

Speaker 12 (01:00:12):
So and what about the Australians thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
Percent increase on the year before.

Speaker 12 (01:00:15):
Yeah, and if there was no one watching it the
year before, thirty percent isn't a.

Speaker 18 (01:00:20):
Great deal, is it? No?

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
But it's it's the growth, right, I mean, it's.

Speaker 18 (01:00:24):
Growing, it's not drinking.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:00:25):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
The question is why, if this is working, why didn't
they change make these changes ages ago.

Speaker 12 (01:00:32):
There's a new commission that's going and they've been charged
with actually sorting the game out because it's been a
little bit of a disaster. It's had its good times,
it's had its bad times, but it needed someone to
turn up and slap it around. And we'll go back
to this term and make you be sick of this
from your days in sport.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
We'll put the.

Speaker 12 (01:00:48):
Fan at the seed of the room. And they're actually
doing it. They've actually sat down and gone, oh, okay,
what do you guys want to see? I what an
amazing idea, ask the fans, because without us, the games
nothing now totally there's nothing. So they've sat down and gone, right,
what's going to work. We're going to we clean this up.
We're going to clean that.

Speaker 18 (01:01:06):
We're going to do this man and lo and behold,
it's working.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
Sebastian Schabel. This is a reason that young kids don't
want to play. All their parents don't want them to play, right,
this is a problem. So Sebastian Schabel, who's the former
French rugby star, revealing he cannot remember a single second
of his entire career. Matt that, I mean, that is
not a good It's terrible for him, but also not
a great advertisement for rugby.

Speaker 13 (01:01:29):
Is it.

Speaker 12 (01:01:30):
Gosh, it isn't.

Speaker 11 (01:01:30):
And I just remember interviewing him after that, immediately after
Franz beat the All Blacks and O seven and Cardiff
and that infamous match. From a New Zealand perspective, I mean,
he was a colossus. He was an incredible player, but
he took a.

Speaker 9 (01:01:43):
Lot of Knox.

Speaker 11 (01:01:44):
He was so physical, soberg and clearly you know those words, CTE.
You think of the athletes who have been affected over
the years. I mean I think of Carl Hayman from
an All Blacks perspective. We played in that match back
in two thousand and seven. You know, the memory loss,
the dementia that that can come, and it's just really sad.
I think he also said you can't remember his daughter's

(01:02:06):
birthday and can't remember a thing about rugby. It's really
sad and it's going to We're going to see.

Speaker 12 (01:02:11):
More and more of this, I think, and there probably
is a lot more and more that's been on the
download because no one wants to admit it. But I
think what's happened now is that more it's getting talked about,
more people actually hold on Yah me too, which is
it's a real issue that his nickname was the Sea Bass,
wasn't it? Matt something stunning nickname and yeah, ferocious, but

(01:02:34):
it's it comes with results like this if you throw
your body around like that. But now I think the
difference is people are actually more cognizant of what the
damage can be done, so they're starting to try and
address it. Whether it could be solved or not, I
don't know. In terms of standdowns and things like that.
You know that you know that you don't take any

(01:02:55):
risk ahead.

Speaker 11 (01:02:55):
Knock and you're off and it could be weeks and
weeks and weeks, and it should be weeks and weeks
and weeks and you know before you even consider coming back.

Speaker 12 (01:03:01):
Yeah, And they're looking at that time and practice as well,
with the concussion rates and practice, so they're going to
pull that back with a contact and practice, they're trying
to mitigate it. And I get that, but like any
contact sport, there is a risk that you'll do yourself
some damage and you just take that risk. But you've
got to know what that risk is. And I think
back in the day, Matt, no one knew or.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
People just didn't want. You know, you don't want to
give up your spot on the team. You don't want
to give up your career, so you just don't tell
anyone what you're feeling on the inside. Which is but
we're very.

Speaker 12 (01:03:32):
Aware of it now. Yeah, which is brilliant and shame.
Dr John Mayhew's just passed. It was mad in that space.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Just before we go, guys, Gary Steared so standing down
as black Cat's white ball coach, should he just go
all together leave on a high? What do you reckon?

Speaker 21 (01:03:45):
Matt?

Speaker 14 (01:03:46):
Well?

Speaker 11 (01:03:47):
Look, he said, I think, what's six seven years in
charge from about twenty eighteen, he said, some amazing results,
I mean, nothing better than the series when in India.

Speaker 12 (01:03:55):
Some disappointing results too.

Speaker 11 (01:03:57):
It's been you would say it's been a mixed bag,
but as record stacks up when compared to Mike Hessen
before him. So I think, look, concentrating on one if
we can afford to have one coach, you know, I
know what most other countries do it now you have
white ball coaches, you have red ball coaches, so you know,
to focus on test cricket if he's got the energy
for that. We don't play a lot of Test cricket,

(01:04:18):
but you know, he certainly has had a pretty decent
record overall in charge of that black Caps Test team.

Speaker 12 (01:04:23):
The big story here for me is New Zealand cricket
don't appear to know what they want. And that's what
gets me. They're leading from the front. It's their coach,
it's their team. They should drive this. Now they're like,
we actually don't know what we're after. We don't know
what Gary stead once, We're not entyler sure who will
even turn up?

Speaker 18 (01:04:39):
Does anyone want a job?

Speaker 12 (01:04:40):
What job?

Speaker 18 (01:04:41):
Don't know?

Speaker 12 (01:04:42):
To me, that is the issue, not whether Gary wants
to come or go. It's the lack of leadership and
the focus and it might not be, but that's what's
been presented to us and we're being told to wind
things up. Ryan Bridge's been absolute pleasure broadcasting with you
over the last few weeks, thinking so much for taking
the time and now it's back to ridiculously early starts

(01:05:03):
on early edition. But you bet a crack at mate.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Well done indeed, Oh thanks Darcy, I appreciate that, and likewise,
Ryan feeling its mutual. Matt, thanks very much for being
with us too. Appreciate your time. Matt Brown OFC communications
manager and Darcy Waldegrave, host of Sports Talk, host of
the Sports Fixed podcast and host of What's the Other One?
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of your messages. Thank you very much, much appreciated. Here's
one on Grant Dalton.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Ryan.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
I hope Dalton knows what he's doing. There is only
one Peter Birling in the world. The only other driver
up to his level and experience is semi retired Jimmy Spiddle.
No other human can do what they do. There are
tons of new talent out there, but they don't have
the depth and the calm of Peter and Jimmy. Crap

(01:06:02):
says this Texter. It's a very good point and well
made too. I don't know what they'll do. I mean,
I guess you just have to start start again, almost,
don't you. He's confident the rest of the team's staying,
but in terms of the leadership, there's no doubt that
Peter Birling was well out in charge of that. Coming
up after six, we're going to look at you know
that they open the door to wil the government on

(01:06:22):
new government buildings. Now the timber people are up in arms.
They want a piece of the pie too. They're with
us after this.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Yeah, I walk right out the fire.

Speaker 19 (01:06:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:06:34):
You try to keep me down, trying to boom me
underground burn.

Speaker 9 (01:06:39):
I'm only going. I can hear you in my head and.

Speaker 21 (01:06:45):
My be when I'm dreaming and you trying to dream dreading.

Speaker 14 (01:06:49):
You'll lem skilled telling you where.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
You can go.

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News Talks NB, we're going to get to before the
top of the r Peter Lewis our Asia Business correspondent.
We'll get to Gavin Grahame the UK and Barry Soaper
will wrap the week in politics right now. It didn't
take long, did it. This week we had an announcement
from the government that they would give preferential treatment to
wool when they are refurbishing or building new government buildings,

(01:07:37):
which is great news for the wool industry in New Zealand.
Right now we've got local building producer producers of building
products saying what about us here? We timber organizations say
they've been lobbying for the same thing, haven't got it.
Timber Industry Federation director Jeff ilt is with us, Jeff
good evening, Yeah, evening, all right. So this was in

(01:07:58):
the New Zealand First coalition agreement with National so that
that's how it's got onto the agenda. Who have you guys,
who have you been going to trying to lobby for
your end?

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
We've we had been talking with Forestry Minister toddenmac play
on this issue, and this was actually a policy under
the previous coalition government with the New Zealand First, dating
back to when Shane Jones was Minister most of Forestry.

(01:08:29):
A proposed policy at that point but never quite got
over the line unfortunately. So yeah, we just sort of
saw with interest and congratulations to the to wall. It's
a very sensible decision. We believed to be doing so,
and we just thought, you know, equally sensible to be

(01:08:52):
specifying that the government government buildings are done with wood.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
It possible, Yeah, because I carpets one thing, you know,
but actually the structure of a building is quite a
different one. Do you know, like how much more expensive
it would be for a building?

Speaker 4 (01:09:14):
It varies ry you know, some some of the costs
are more expensive, but the production times are quicker. Timber
buildings are typically quicker to built up them concrete and
steel buildings. Now we're talking cross eliminated timber type structures there,
you know, so it evens out, and particularly when you

(01:09:37):
start taking them into account the benefits of the carbon
sequestration that timber buildings offer, you know, it locks up
all that carb and that trees have sucked up over
the thirty year lifespan. It locks it up for sort
of fifty years or more.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Are there are there other limitations with timber, like can
you only go so high?

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
Skies of a limit based Ryan?

Speaker 22 (01:10:01):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:10:03):
The in alex Canada there's now CLT buildings in excess
of twenty stories. I think there's some in excess of
twenty five stories. I think it is in Australia now.
So so really the sky is the limit in terms
of what can be built using would what.

Speaker 3 (01:10:24):
Are they and what are they telling you what, Jeff,
what's the what's the line from the government to you
guys at the moment, just not a priority. We'll get
back to you.

Speaker 14 (01:10:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
Largely saying not a priority in the line we have
had is that it's too difficult in competition reasons of
competition or throttling competition. They don't want to be seen
doing it. Was the line that we've been told over
it over a period. So yeah, it was just with

(01:10:53):
a raised by grad that we saw the Wall announcement,
so it clearly can be done.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Jeff, appreciate your time, thanks for coming on the program.
That's Jeff Ilot. He's the New Zealand Timber Industry Federation director,
wanting the same deal the Wall guy's got basically ten
up to six. Ryan Bridge, you would have heard the
rumors by now about Krmala Harris Keen to be governor
of California because obviously she misses out to Trump, you know, embarrassed, defeated, downtrodden,

(01:11:19):
whatever it might be, not feeling that great after the
defeat to Donald Trump, the guy she basically called a
Nazi right beats her. Quite embarrassing anyway, There's just no
stopping these guys. They just once they get a taste,
a suck of the sav they just want the bottle.
So Gavin Newsom, who's the current governor of California, he
fancies himself for around at the White House. So you're

(01:11:40):
likely to see these two actually just job swap. So
he will become I mean, this has not happened yet
by any stretch, but he wants to become the Democratic candidate,
and she apparently quite wants to be the governor now
that she's been sort of turfed out of Washington. Here's
the interesting thing about Kamala Harris that I found out
today were just as I was doing a little peruse.

(01:12:02):
She's going to the Gold Coast in Australia to headline
a real estate conference. I know, how bizarre. How much
are they paying her? They won't say so the conference
and not Actually, if there are any real estate agents
going to this, you're in for a treat. It's happening
next month. It's the Australasian Real Estate Conference on the
Gold Coast. Kamala Harris, former you know, Vice President, wanted

(01:12:27):
to be leader of the Free World, now speaking to
real estate agents on the Gold Coast in one month
twelve after six News Talk zb Barry here.

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Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
Coming up. It's just gone quarter past six on News
Talks heb coming up in just a few moments. I'm
going to talk about Prince Harry. You know, he's in
court try and get more bodyguards out of the Brits. Well,
he's turned up somewhere else, which is quite unusual. I
think we'll get to that shortly. Right now, Barry Soper here,
wrapping the week that was BEZ. Welcome back.

Speaker 18 (01:13:02):
It's nice to be here for the final time. Now
for the next three months.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
Right, one last hurrah for us, Barry, Let's make it
a good one. Now, twelve billion dollars. We did tell
everybody this was going to happen, but now we've had
its confirmed. It's going to get to two percent of
GDP on defense spending up twelve billion over four years, and.

Speaker 18 (01:13:18):
Nine billion of that is new spending. So next month's
budget will tell us exactly how they're going to afford that.
You know, this comes at a time of course when
the country can I'll afford additional money but you know,
if you want to be a member of the international community,
you've got to spend on defense. It's your security in
this part of the world. And we've seen the world

(01:13:41):
on a precipice over the past several months, and not
helped of course by the tariff war now being embarked
on by the American President. So yeah, I think certainly
this money should be well spent. It depends on how
good the craft. For example, they buy to replace the

(01:14:03):
seven five sevens now they're the aircraft that have constantly
broken down when the Prime Minister has been on them
traveling around the world with trade delegations. So they are
being replaced, and many would say not before time.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Speaking of trade and speaking of missions, Luxon's been on
a bit of one in the last twenty four hours.
So this is his way of trying to control the narrative.
You're not going to bash Trump, so what else can
you do. You go out there and you say we're
talking free trade with our partners.

Speaker 18 (01:14:30):
Yeah, And interestingly, Winston Peters, as we mentioned earlier, seem
to be a bit unsure about that, saying it was
suggesting it was premature. But you know, we've got to
cover our backs in all of this. I mean, we
like the rest of the world at the moment, except
for China of course, are facing ten percent tariffs, so

(01:14:52):
we've got to look at possible trading blocks and the
cpp TA that was started by New Zealand that obviously
can include others and even China is talking about looking
at it now. And you imagine if China came aboard there.
I don't think Trump would like it very much.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
No, but that's the opposite of what they want exactly.

Speaker 18 (01:15:15):
Yeah, and the Prime Minister has also spoken to the
head of the European Union twenty seven countries there. You
know we, you know we trading blocks are the way
that the world could go in response to America effectively
isolating itself when it comes to trade.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Now, Tamitha Paul and the Sensible Sentencing Trust billboards were
a bit of light relief this week barring.

Speaker 18 (01:15:39):
Aren't they fantastic?

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
They're quite funny, you.

Speaker 18 (01:15:41):
Know, police defunded up police. A lot has been made
of it in the House and Tamatha Paul is very unrepentant. Interestingly,
the Greens didn't complain about the posters or the billboards.
They're very good and very professional looking, and it looks
as though the Green Party has actually advocated that. Now
the billboards were put in both the central electorates of

(01:16:05):
two biggest cities, in Wellington where Tamitha Paul is the
electorate MP, and in Auckland Central where Chloe Swallbreck is
the MP. Now the stand by the Greens is patently ridiculous.
They haven't distanced themselves from Tamotha Tamotha Paul's claim that
people feel uneasy when they see police on the beat.

(01:16:30):
Polls that come out this week show the exact opposite
to be true, and big numbers people do like to
see more cops on the beat and feel much more
safer as a result.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
Barrier to finish the week, the good wool people of
New Zealand have managed to get their their you know
name and lights with the agreement between the Zealand First
and National and they will get some preferential treatment in
government contracts. But then today you have the Wood people
coming out saying, you know, so we want it to,
we want it to. So have they created a precedent

(01:17:03):
they didn't want to?

Speaker 18 (01:17:04):
It is the problem, isn't it? In picking favorites. And
that's what the government's done here at saying a wall
over synthetic. Well you know what about all the synthetic
carpet manufacturers as well. I mean they'll be saying, well,
hang on, you can't pick favorites off you're a government
and you can see the argument there. But also if
you are a government department, I think you should be

(01:17:26):
looking at our natural product are the stuff that we
do export usually. And similarly, when you talk on that vein,
I think we should be looking at our bankers. For example,
the government banks with Westpac. Why not recapitalize Keiwi Bank
and start our official banking with that particular bank rather

(01:17:47):
than an Australian bank.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
So you know, I mean you could go on exactly.

Speaker 18 (01:17:52):
It opens the door to so many areas.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
All right, Berry, good to how it's been lovely working
with you over the last couple of months. I very
much enjoyed doing that again.

Speaker 18 (01:18:00):
Yeah, it to be nicer, Ryan, And well don't out
see you back again at some stage.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Thanks, Barry, appreciate it. Barry Soper, senior political correspondent at
News Talks hereb it's just gone twenty after six. Next
I'll tell you about Prince Harry where he's been after
being in court trying to get bodyguards. Kind of a
strange place for him to be. And I'll read you
the quotes from Phil Gough. That sounds boring, doesn't it.
I'll read you quotes from Phil Goth. They are interesting,

(01:18:27):
I promise, just because of how far he goes. Obviously
he was felt like he was wrapped up in a
ball and chain over at Chathamhouse in London. Even though
it sounded bad what he said, he could have gone
much further, and he has at Auckland University. So I'll
tell you just how far. Twenty one after six.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
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Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Talks, edb twenty three after six. Peter Lewis on the
China Front out of Hong Kong for US just after
the news at six point thirty. Right now, Phil Goff
for Prince Harry. Prince Harry or Phil Goff? Who do
we want to do first? Who do we who do
annoys us more? Today? Let's go with Phil Goff. Normally
it would be Prince Harry hands down easy, but today

(01:19:14):
it's Phil GoF. So he goes over to London. He's
how representative in London and he says those silly things
at Chatham House and gets himself in trouble, gets fired,
comes home, does a media tour. Everyone under the Sun
does an interview with him, and then he goes last
night to Auckland University, our University of Auckland, does a

(01:19:35):
speaking panel hosted by the university and says he has
no regrets. He said, I relish the freedom that I
now have to say what I believe. This is Phil Goff,
the self appointed apostle of moral compass of foreign affairs.
He's come out and he said, I now relish the
freedom that I have. He said, I'm sitting there describing
what happened in London. I'm sitting there in my role

(01:19:57):
as High Commissioner, trying to be diplomatic but also desperately
not wanting to be an enabler. Honestly, God mate, you
just he said that the United States was no longer
a trusted ally that is becoming an increasingly unsustainable position
in my view, talking there about our relationship with America

(01:20:20):
and Donald Trump. I mean, honestly, he is like it
all though that the democratically elected leader of the country.
He won't be president forever. You don't cut your nose
off spite your face. I wouldn't have thought anyway, that's God.
This is Harry. So Harry's been in the UK and
has been in court and he's trying to get more
money for bodyguards out of the taxpayer over there. And

(01:20:43):
so his argument as I look, you know, we receive
threats and we deserve to have protection and et cetera,
et cetera. Now, after he finishes there, he flies to
Ukraine to do I don't know about you, but my
first thought was, you want bodyguards, You want people to
pay for your bodyguards over here because you're worried about

(01:21:04):
your safety. And then you fly to a war zone,
you know, just optics, that's all. And I get it.
He served in the army, and I don't take that
away from him. He was heavily involved with the Invictus
Games all of that stuff, but just the optis seemed
a little strange, you know, from one to the other. Anyway,
there you go. That's still golf and Prince Harry. In
about a minute twenty six minutes after six.

Speaker 2 (01:21:24):
Now you're one, you're on.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
News Talk, said B. We'll get to Peter Lewis out
of Hong Kong coming up just after the news at
six thirty, and we'll get to Gavin Gray as well,
he's our UK correspondent. I'm interested to know what's happening
with China one hundred and forty five percent tariff?

Speaker 21 (01:21:40):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
Do you even bother sending stuff at that rate?

Speaker 14 (01:21:45):
Do you?

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
I mean, what are you literally what are they doing
with their shipments that would otherwise be going to the
United States, which is their largest trading partner. Don't forget
for the US, it's only the third. China is only
the third. For China, US is number one. But at
one hundred and forty five percent, do you just leave
it all there on the dock? Try and seem it
somewhere else. Peter Lewis next on news Talk.

Speaker 14 (01:22:07):
Set by myself and gop back like youself.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Weak if you can't tell.

Speaker 9 (01:22:16):
This, said makes train.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and Mass Insurance and Investments,
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Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
Will it lecords.

Speaker 28 (01:22:53):
I can't remember everything we said, Bob, we said it all.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
It saw me that you whizzle a maddy even start
to damn me.

Speaker 3 (01:23:06):
Twenty five away from seven, you're on news talks to you.
We'll get to Gavin Gray out of the UK shortly.
I just realized normally about this time. Because you spend
a lot of time staring at computer screens in your day,
you will do that at your work or if you're
on a phone or on a computer, whatever you're doing,
and your eyes get a bit sore. I promise Laura,
I wouldn't tell the story because it's quite boring. But
who cares. It's Friday evening, you know, get it. Pull

(01:23:27):
yourself a drink. Let's sit down and have a chat.
Today I had an eyebath. Didn't you want to have
had one of those before? Incredible experience. So one of
the problems I have is wearing contact lenses, and this
is where it gets boring. Pour another drink. I have
contact lenses and for fourteen hours a day I keep
them in and I keep them in for seven days
a week because I lost my glasses. You're not meant

(01:23:49):
to do that. It's meant to be five to six
days a week maximum, and it's meant to be eight
to ten hours a day. So I'm way over the limit.
You know, I'm drunk in charge of my contact lenses.
And what happens is during the night I wake up
my eyes are so dry. I have to put eye
drops in and so my what are they called not
ophthalmologist optometrist today Grace, if you're listening, what a delightful experience.

(01:24:15):
It was just bathed my eyeballs in a sayline solution
I have. My eyes have never been reborn. It's a rebirth.
It feels amazing, so Grace, thank you for that. And
if anyone else suffers from this sort of affliction, well, one,
don't we contact vensors all the time? That's dumb. But
two go shut yourself, treat yourself to an eyebath. Twenty

(01:24:37):
four away from seven, Peter Lewis is out Asia business
correspondent with US.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
Now, Hi, Peter, good evening, Ryan.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
Now what is the latest from China? This is the
trade war one hundred and forty five percent higher than
what you know, one hundred and twenty five we thought,
which is bad enough. What's the latest from Beijing?

Speaker 6 (01:24:55):
Well, we're waiting to see if they actually now retaliate
to that. To be quite honest, it doesn't matter anymore.
When you have tariffs of one hundred and forty five percent,
it doesn't matter if you make them one hundred and
fifty two hundred three hundred. In effect, trade between the
US and China has come to an end. It just

(01:25:15):
becomes impossible with those levels of tariffs for companies to
be able to export between the two countries and still
make money. So there's going to be a lot of
consequences from that. If the two sides, someone doesn't bleak
first and back down. In terms of China, it's going
to have a big impact on their economy. Could shave

(01:25:38):
maybe two to three percent of a GDP, so that
will slow Chinese growth from five percent maybe down to
as much as two percent. That will feel like a
recession in China. Obviously the economy is still growing, but
such a dramatic slowdown that the people of China will
feel it. But they're being very very sanguine about this.

(01:26:02):
They're sort of very supportive of their governments. They think
Trump is crazy. They like the idea that the government
is standing up to him. And not backing down, and
they feel like they're all sort of in it together.
And President Chi Jinping is really presenting himself as the
grown up in the room. This is his opportunity to

(01:26:23):
really stand up and say, look, we are now the
defenders of globalization, of global trade, and we're all in
this together, and let's stand together on this interesting that approach.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
They were trying to get other countries on board, and
I saw that they were rebuffed by Australia during the
election campaign there, but trying to get other countries on
board to form this sort of coalition of free trade.
Do you think that's been somewhat undermined by the fact
that Trump has lowered the rate for everybody else and
done a ninety day pause. Their incentive to join China

(01:26:58):
has now been reduced.

Speaker 6 (01:27:01):
Exactly. I mean, if you take countries like Malaysia, for example,
Malaysia is standing up as the representative of Southeast Asia
and wants to go to Washington and negotiate with Trump.
And now Southeast Asia is China's biggest market, but they
clearly want to go and try and do some sort
of deal. Vietnam has offered to remove all tariffs on

(01:27:25):
US imports, although strangely that was rebuffed by Peter Navarro
who said that wasn't going to be enough. But nevertheless,
they do want to they do want to negotiate. And
also China has rather reduced its influence with some of
these countries by its aggressive stance in the South China Sea.
So Vietnam, for example, has a lot of disputes on

(01:27:46):
various islands with China that has really disrupted that relationship
and made it more difficult for countries like Vietnam to
align themselves too closely with China. So even there may
be some sort of reconciliation between the two, they clearly
want to be part of the US orbit as well,

(01:28:08):
and they want to try and do some sort of
trade deal with the US.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
Now Sujin is going to hit to Southeast Asia. Is
this a response to the trade war or is this
a pre planned trip?

Speaker 6 (01:28:19):
It is partly in response to the trade war. He's
going to Malaysia, Vietnam, and Cambodia, so you know, three
sort of key countries. Now, Cambodia is an easy visit
for him because Cambodia and China are very close, they
have good relations. Vietnam and Malaysia, as I've just said,
are going to be more difficult because of geopolitical reasons

(01:28:41):
and also for trade as well. But Xijinpin wants to
present himself now as being the sort of the leader
of global free trade. Theres the supporter of globalization. If
America doesn't want to do it anymore, then he's saying,
will do it, China will do it, and to find
ways in effect of cutting sort of the US out

(01:29:04):
of the trade relationship, building up relationships elsewhere in the
global South, in Southeast Asia, in the Middle East, and
they're saying that, look, you, our exports are about fifteen
percent of GDP, but US exports are only about sixteen
percent of that sort of trading relationship. So we can
do without the US, we can build up relations elsewhere.

(01:29:28):
So that is very much part of the strategy of
China to try and mitigate the risks from this.

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
Just finally, the Asian Development Banks had something to say
about the terrorists and what they might do to some
of those smaller countries, and we talked about this last week.
I think, you know, little countries like Cambodia who are
never going to be able to buy as much from
the States as the States are selling to them. I mean,
it's just completely impractical. What's the Asian Development Bank saying.

Speaker 6 (01:29:53):
Well, they're saying the same thing that this is really
going to have a very big impact on poorer countries
which been hit very, very hard by these tarots. I
mean we're talking about Cambodia, Vietnam with tariffs close to
fifty percent, miandmar small islands in the Pacific, Vanuatu for example,

(01:30:14):
all being hit with very high tarrets. And the reason
why is because of the strange way in which Trump
has calculated what he says are basically tariffs, and it's
done by basically dividing the trade deficit by the total
amount of trade. So if you're a country like Madagascar
for example, that in effect just exports one product to

(01:30:38):
the US, you're going to have a fairly large trade
surplus compared to your overall trade. You get whacked really hard.
And there's nothing that these countries can do to try
and turn those trade surpluses into deficits. As you say,
they just can't afford to buy the sort of expensive

(01:30:58):
products cells. So this will have a very big impact
on the on the GDP of these smaller countries. Luckily
they've been removed for now, although they still have ten
percent tarots on them, which for some of these poor
nations is still quite a lot. But there really is
very little they can do in any negotiation with Trump

(01:31:20):
to try and turn their trade surpluses into either a
balance trade or a deficit.

Speaker 3 (01:31:26):
Yeah, really tough position for them. Paid to appreciate your
time as always, Peter Lewis, Asian Business Correspondent. We'll get
to Gavin Gray in the UK next seventeen to seven croaching.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
The numbers and getting the results.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
It's Ryan Bridge with the Business Hour and Mays Insurance
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Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
Fourteen to seven on News Talk CV Gold spiking and
price again after the Asian cheers are down. We'll get
to that in just a seecond right now. Gavin Gray's
here at our UK correspondent, Gavin Good evening. Either are
so obviously right now as we stand looking to the future,
things aren't looking rosie. But if you look back a
month or two, actually the UK was doing all right.

Speaker 26 (01:32:07):
Yes, so we've just had the official figures for the
economic growth and it was higher than expected in February
much higher. The experts have predicted growth of point one percent,
in other words, pretty much stagnation. But actually the economy
expanded by zero point five percent, half of one percent,
with the services sector having a very strong month in particular,

(01:32:29):
and better than expected figures will do the government a
huge favor as the UK economy braces itself now for
the impact of those tariffs from and going into the US.
So the UK's pen hit with this blanket ten percent.
What next is the big question, and it looks like
this little boost will be certainly welcome for the Chancellor.

(01:32:51):
Rachel reeves manufacturing, electronics, pharmaceutical businesses performing well. The car
industry also picking up after its recent poor performance. And
so that said Lotus, the luxury car brand maker based
in Norfolk, to the east of England, laying off about
a sixth of its workforce and in part blaming US tariff.
So not an entirely clean bill of health. We'll see

(01:33:13):
where we go from here.

Speaker 3 (01:33:14):
Speaking of bills, the British textpayer picking up the tip
for four hundred and fifty million pounds in military support.
This is for Kiev, in comes a here of quite
a crucial meeting.

Speaker 18 (01:33:24):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 26 (01:33:25):
So the UK and Germany hosting a meeting of fifty
nations in Brussels. The aim is to pile pressure on
Vladimir boot into get out of Ukraine. Let's do the
package first. That includes funding for hundreds of thousands of drones,
they of course have proven to be absolutely essential in
this war against Russia. Also spending on anti tank mines

(01:33:48):
and repairs to military vehicles, some of the vihkers they
simply aren't able to use at the moment because they're
out of action with them at various repairs being needed.
About three hundred and fifty million pound seven hundred and
thirty million New Zealand dollars will be provided by the UK,
with extra funding from Norway via the UK led International
Fund from Ukraine, so it's a pretty big chunk of

(01:34:11):
money going their way. Comes at a time when Ukraine
is saying that Russia has already begun its spring offensive
and that yes, the UK and Germany hosting this meeting.
It's traditionally been hosted by the US Defense Secretary until
Donald Trump became president in January. Since then, in a
clear sign that America is stepping back from European security matters.

(01:34:33):
It's been left to others to take over the chair.
Current chair is the British Defense Secretary and they are
really looking at how to make life a lot more
uncomfortable for Vladimir Putin as this war shows no sign
of coming to an end.

Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
Kevin just finally Prada. We love a Prida hambag, don't we,
But we also love a Vasachi. I don't even know
if they do hambags, probably more heels and stuff. I
don't know. I don't know what any of them do.
But they're joining forces.

Speaker 4 (01:35:04):
Yes.

Speaker 26 (01:35:04):
All I know about them is very expensive and very
very popular joining, so I don't know what they make.
The joining force is to secure a business estimated to
be worth about two and a half billion New Zealand dollars,
and Prada is the one that's taking over the smaller

(01:35:26):
arrival of Versace, saying they're going to continue Versaci's legacy,
celebrating and reinterpreting its bold and timeless esthetic. The Produc
group already owns several other luxury brands, including the footwear
brand Church is very popular here in the UK and
Mew as well, so this is a very big deal. Indeed,

(01:35:46):
the price Prada, however, agreed to pay for Versaci is
significantly lower than when a holdings company bought Forsaci in
twenty eighteen, so significant decline in that and the deal
will includes a debt pile, as Vasachi has been operating
at a loss amid a slowdown in demand for luxury

(01:36:07):
fashion worldwide.

Speaker 3 (01:36:09):
Gavin, appreciate your time. Gavin Gray, our UK correspondent, just
gone nine minutes away from seven. Our price to gold.
By the way, this will get you some new Vasachi
Prida Hills whatever they are three two hundred and six
American dollars. That's up forty five point two percent on
a year ago. Sorry on beginning of the year, one
point four to three percent today, that's another new record.

(01:36:29):
Nine to seven.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
It's the Heather to Pice Alan Drive Full Show podcast
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Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
News Talk ZB. It is seven minutes away from seven.
Great to have your company this evening, as it always
is Friday night. Heather is back with you Monday. I
know she's really looking forward to reconnecting with you all.
It's been a couple of months off for her. Obviously,
she's had a lot going on in her life, so
she'll be stoked to get back and speak to you
on Monday. I very much enjoyed being here, very much

(01:36:58):
enjoyed being with you. It's only been a couple months,
but it feels like a lot longer. Not in a
bad way. But one of the people who I always
talk about is the executive producer of the program, Laura,
who never talks for some reason, has never wanted to
come on the show, and it's just walked in and
sat in front of a microphone. Hello, Ryan, Hello, it speaks.

Speaker 20 (01:37:19):
I don't do this ever.

Speaker 29 (01:37:21):
Look, I just wanted to take the opportunity to say
thank you so much for being with us for the
last few months. It's been an absolute pleasure. It has
been so much fun. I didn't actually know you before
you came to do this, and I was a bit
sort of you know, the relationship between a host and
a producer is quite intense sometimes, and I was like, oh,

(01:37:43):
I wonder how this Ryan's going to go. But it's
been an absolute pleasure. We've had so much fun. You've
slutted in so seamlessly. I thank your style, your warmth,
your energy has been amazing, and thank you so much
for everything you brought to the show. I can see
for the lasts people have been texting in telling how
so much they're going to miss you. But of course

(01:38:05):
you're not going anywhere. You're going back to your own show.
They've given you one day off because that's how nice
the bosses are at newstok zed B, but from Tuesday
you'll be back on ZB at five am.

Speaker 3 (01:38:18):
Indeed, well, thank you, Laura. I was going to try
to think of something nice to say to you earlier. Oh, thanks, No,
I was thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
You have you are.

Speaker 3 (01:38:28):
Absolutely if I was to pick a top three in
terms of people that I've worked with who are very
very very able and competent but also very funny, you'd
be right up there now. I very much enjoyed working
with you, and you'd run a very very tight ship
around here and it shows so no nonsense. No, it's
been great working with you, Laura, very much appreciated having

(01:38:50):
you at my side. And Andy, who's gone a bit quiet,
who's pushing the buttons. Probably I'm just wondering if I'm
in one of those top three, to be fair, definitely
not Andy. Okay, that's the filling guy. The filling guys
here for one day. No, Andy, love working with you.
Andy Duff, great guy. Thanks everyone. I'll see you next

(01:39:11):
Tuesday at five in the morning. And Hither is back
with you Monday here at news Talk said be Oh my.

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send on me and Jacks got it.

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Speaker 14 (01:39:27):
Downtown near Few Street. You everybody, Yeah, the barkey everybody
everybody by.

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He calls it, tolls to the three to the floor.

Speaker 14 (01:39:47):
When it's last, Carl and he kick us out at
dn skin kind of lay.

Speaker 3 (01:39:51):
But the ladies want some more.

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Oh my good lord, tell him drinks, so tumble pup
me up a double shadow with then on mean they've
got a history. There's a part of downtown near Fishtory.
Everybody had the barget don't.

Speaker 18 (01:40:10):
Party duhaut lisday.

Speaker 27 (01:40:12):
Then on me.

Speaker 18 (01:40:15):
You got the bottom of the bottom man.

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Everybody had bart, everybody had.

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