Full Show Podcast: 25 October 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,
get the answers by the facts and give the analysis.
Heather du to c Ellen Drive with One New Zealand.
Let's get connected and news talk as they'd be.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today,
Chris Luxon's meeting Charless and King Charles for the first
time today. That's pretty exciting. So we're going to go
to some more and just see what level of excitement
We're right. The Police Minister has met with Auckland Transport
about what to do on the buses to keep people safe.
We'll talk to him. And a bunch of Wellington luminaries
have formed a group to try to save Wellington, presumably
from the council. We'll speak to one of them, Former

(00:39):
Mayor Dame fran Wilde Ether due to see Ellen. Long weekend,
how good? I mean, how good? Of all the long weekends,
this is the one that I'm hanging out for the
most because I don't know about you, but I need
a break from the nonsense. It's been going on in
politics this week on two fronts. The first is Andrew Bailey.
I mean, this is trivial stuff, right, This was a

(01:01):
dad joke gone wrong, and the opposition has spent all
week trying to turn it into something else, trying to
turn it into a situation where he was drunk he
apparently wasn't, trying to turn it into a situation where
he'd lied, he apparently hadn't. And so far, absolutely none
of the stuff is stuck. It's just, as far as
we can see, a dad joke gone wrong, like it
was on Friday last week. And the second issue that

(01:23):
I'm glad we are hopefully going to move on from
is the Casey Costello and the tobacco tax saga. Now,
to be fair, okay, there are some questions definitely to
answer in the saga. That's my problem is not the
focus on it, it's the level of the focus on it.
Right there is extensive obsessive coverage going on in some
sections of the media, and I have to listen to

(01:45):
this and read this stuff for my job as boring
it is so dull. I want us to move on
from this. I've had a gutsful of it. Having said
all of that, word to the wise. For Chippy, Chippy's
got to be a little careful about how quickly he
tells fhibbs, because that's probably the worst aspect of this
whole Casey Costello thing so far, as far as I
can see. When Winston Peters first revealed a couple of

(02:05):
days ago that someone and Minister Casey Costello's in a
circle was actually a family member of her opponent, aischeverril,
who was launching attacks on her, and that this person
and no one had told Casey Costello that this was
a relative of her opponent, the first thing that Chippy
said was a manner, just a distant relative will come on, mate,

(02:26):
a sister in law, which is now what it turns
out this person is as not a distant relative. I
see my sister in law on the regular, because I
see my brother on the regular. So a sister in
law is not somebody like distant woo who I have
nothing to do with you anymore. Chippy has unfortunately a
bit of a habit of telling FIBs too quickly. I mean,
he told He's told a lot of FIBs right. He

(02:47):
told fibbs about the women who crossed the Northland border
during the COVID lockdown of Auckland. He told fibbs about
the pregnant journalist in Afghanistan, Charlotte Ballast and I suspect
there was another FIB that was told about the KFC worker,
but frankly, I just couldn't be bothered going back and
having a look at the fib.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Now.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
The thing is, the Casey Costello story is actually, frankly
too complicated for many of us to follow the details on.
But it's been going on for weeks and it's just
got more and more and more complicated. But what people
can understand very simply is a fib because a fib
is something we come across every single day ourselves, and
so when we see one, we know one, and it
sticks in our heads. So Chippy stop fibbing all the time.

(03:22):
It's not a good idea. And the rest of us
here is hoping that the long we can resets the
politicians so they start dealing with the issues we actually
care about.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Heather Do for Cela nineteen nine.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Tier is the text and understand a text. Fees apply
now to something that I do care about, less so
at the moment, but most of the time I do.
The ACT Party have launched a new member's bill to
abolish the remaining liquor monopolies, a crown around the country. Now,
the bill would repeal the current trusts model. It would
allow locals to sell booze under the same nationwide scheme
like the supermarkets and bottle stores and stuff like that.

(03:53):
Simon Court, as a west Auckland based act MP and
is with us. Now, Hey, Simon, good afternoon, Heather Born
from your own personal frustration at not being able to
get the booze from the normal places like the rest
of us do.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
It's incredibly frustrating, it's confusing to visitors who come to
West Auckland, and it's frankly condescending to the nearly three hundred
thousand people who live in west Auckland that we can't
enjoy the same access to hospitality, being able to buy
beer and wine.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
New Zealand says we don't trust the bergains with the booze.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
Well, well, yeah indeed, but yeah, the same also applies
to Invercargo and Gore Matada. Well, we also have.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Life hotspots, isn't that.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
Yeah, Well, we think we deserve the same rights as
all the rest of New Zealanders. And I'll just give
you one stat that really triggers me. There's three hundred
thousand people. Almost of west Aukland, we've got eight bars.
The rest of Auckland has one bar for every three thousand,
two hundred people. We've got one for every thirty seven

(04:57):
thousand people. Not only are we lacking, but there's a
huge opportunity here in terms of jobs and economy for
west Aukland to participate that we currently don't have. So
what my members bill does is said, you can these
lack of licensing trusts can keep owning bars, they can
keep selling alcohol, but they will no longer have a monopoly.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Okay, So if your bill passes and becomes law, does
it just basically wipe it immediately, and it's it just
it starts from the get go. It just resets it
so that it becomes like everywhere else in the country.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
That's all this is. That would mean that they can
continue with business, but that anyone else who will now
set up a hospitality business.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Famously in the past, and I don't know what the
situation is at the moment, but famously in the past
in the cargo actually used this model for a lot
of good. Do they not do that anymore?

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Well, the trusts have had a real struggle in the
past few years. Their overheads have gone up in Auckland
from three to four million a years nearly fourteen million.
They struggle to make a profit. They've closed stores, but
when you actually lift the hood, eighty percent of their
profits come from Pokey's and not from selling alcohol or
having bars. So our proposition is quite simple. If they

(06:09):
want to give back to their community, if they want
to fulfill what they think is this community need, then
they should do it. But they shouldn't have a monopoly
in selling alcohol and they shouldn't have a monopoly on
running hospitality venus in West Aorkland.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
You realize that you would be moving West Auckland in
a completely different direction of travel to the rest of
the wider Auckland region at the moment where the council
is basically trying to shut down the places you can
get booze from.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
Well, unfortunately we're also subject to the local alcohol policies,
but we have even less opportunity to participate in the
hospitality lifestyle that people who live in the rest of Auckland,
I mean west Is spend over one hundred million dollars
a year on hospitality outside of West Auckland. Because we
simply can't get it here. We can order alcohol to

(06:55):
be delivered to our door. We can order it from
a supermarket through Quick and Collect. We go and buy
it in the supermarket. So we're living in a really
throwback era here to prohibition and temperance. And what my
members bill will do say, Look, the government has this
Commerce Commission that's meant to be smashing monopolies. Unfortunately we've
got this law that says that we're enforcing a monopoly

(07:16):
on liquor licensing. We're going to open that up and
we're going to give West's and the people of South
and Freedom back brilliant stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Hey, so I'm in best of lucky that Simon called
ACTMP for West Aalkland. I've started a war with the Bogans.
I've had a text from the Queen of the Bogans already,
Paula Bennett. Heather, leave the Bogans alone, Paula Bennett. So
I will, because I am still slightly afraid of her.
Massive day by the way, for tesla on the markets
overnight because the shares closed speaking of Bogans, because Elon

(07:45):
feels a bit boguan. He doesn't it anyway, she has
closed up nearly. He's a rich one though. She has
closed up nearly twenty two percent in just one day.
Now twenty two percent gain and your shares is massive.
That is the single the biggest single day gain that
they've had at Tesla in over a decade. And the
reason is because Elon is just exuding confidence. He's gone
out there here reckons they're going to grow sales up

(08:05):
to potentially thirty percent next year. He's going to finally
launch that affordable vehicle in the first half of twenty
twenty five. We are still waiting for it, but he
says it's coming. He's coming by midway next year. And
he said also he's been slashing the production costs, so
he's boosted margins in the third quarters that everything's going
absolutely well and as a result, he's had to win
on the markets and frankly, he needed a win quarter past.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather dupic Allen
drive with one New Zealand one giant leap for business,
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Speaker 2 (08:41):
Jason Pine Weekend Sport hosters have been now had piney.

Speaker 6 (08:44):
Helloa, Hey, two fifty.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Nine is not that bad for.

Speaker 7 (08:47):
Us as it, I reckon, it's all right, there runs
on the board, right, I mean, two fifty nine doesn't
seem like a huge total.

Speaker 6 (08:54):
It's not.

Speaker 7 (08:54):
Probably it's about middling, I guess and Test cricket, but
on a pitch that's going to turn more and more
as the Test goes on.

Speaker 6 (09:01):
I think one of the crucial points here is that
India are.

Speaker 7 (09:04):
Going to have to bat last on this pitch when
the presumably anyway the wicket is turning the most.

Speaker 6 (09:09):
So I think two fifty nine's all right.

Speaker 7 (09:11):
You wouldn't want India to get many more than I
don't know, one hundred ahead. So it's quite an important
day today when he gets underway in the next forty
minutes or so. But yeah, I think two fifty nine's okay.
They would have loved a lot more, but we're still
on this Test match.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
I think.

Speaker 7 (09:25):
I think the Test match is well and truly alive.
Only had one day, but yeah, today might be quite crucial. Yeah,
don't want to let them get away from us.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Have you ever heard of this? Chap Washington? Soon before?

Speaker 6 (09:35):
I hadn't actually no what a great name though, had
a great name.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
So how many of our wickets did he take?

Speaker 5 (09:40):
Seven?

Speaker 7 (09:41):
Seven for fifty nine he got so yeah, so I
think we've all heard of him now, maybe that was
a problem. No one in the black Caps knew who
was and what he could do.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
What a legend. And so Ann's was telling me before
Producer Ants was telling me that Washington hadn't been selected
for the Indian side for such a long time, which
is so nobody was kind of factor him in. And
then he comes in and performs like this. Why hasn't
he been selected before? The guy's a legend.

Speaker 7 (10:04):
Well by now, look, I think he's probably proved himself
now seven for fifty nine.

Speaker 6 (10:09):
I don't think you'll be being omitted for a while now.
It's a cool story, though, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (10:12):
You know someone who hasn't been in the team and
all of a sudden he's in the team and he
picks up seven.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
It's quite a cool story if you're an Indian fan,
that is, yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, I mean for us obviously not so much. No,
I really hope he injures himself and can't play anymore. Listen,
I would love to be excited about this. Japanese game.
But I just cannot find myself getting excited. What about you?

Speaker 7 (10:33):
Yeah, it's a bit of an entrede to the main
courses ahead the three big Test matches England, France, Island
to come. Look, I think there's a you know, it's
almost a bit folds. Ten players have gone on ahead
and so when they're a false strength side. But I
think there are some players in this All Blacks team
with quite a lot to play for tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (10:49):
Yeah, you know, the ten who have gone.

Speaker 7 (10:51):
Ahead are clearly going to play in the starting fifteen
all things being equal next week. So there are places
up for grabs and the starting fifteen and crucially on
the bench as well. I think there are a lot
of guys tomorrow who who can put their hand nice
and high to say to raise a look, I want
to be involved in your match day twenty three for
the really big Test matches ahead, looking forward to seeing
what's so Titi at number eight is actual position and

(11:13):
Billy Proctor with an another opportunity criminally under used this
year by the All Blacks. Billy Proctor, I think if
he has a big gun and he puts pressure on
Recoy yu Wani to the back end of the year.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Oh yeah, okay, that's interesting stuff. Then just for a
little bit of analysis, we'll watch Piney Thank you appreciate
it at JAS and pine Weekend sport hosts will be
at midday tomorrow here on News Talk ZB Here the
west Auckland sucks. You have to go to a handful
of booze stores to purchase. Trusts are expensive and spend
on community outreach with a premium, no supermarket quick stops
for a bottle of wine. The stores are beacons for
less in productive community peoples and frankly scary sometimes to visit.

(11:45):
Heather get rid of the west Auckland Trust. Flatmates cafe
outperforms all the trust locations, but they are restricted on
so much due to the trust control here that don't
give the Westy Bogans any booze. Look at the mullets
they grow with just lemonade. Imagine what the booze is
going to do. It's gonna put fire in their hair,
isn't it. Four twenty two.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Heather Duper c
Allen drive with one New Zealand Let's get connected and
us talks.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
That'd be Dan Mitchins in our US correspondence with US
and around about fifteen minutes time or so, we'll obviously
be talking about the US election, because that's the thing
that everybody is talking about over there. A spokesperson for
Simeon Brown has confirmed that he and because he's the
Transport Minister and he and the Police Minister Mike Mitchell
sat down with Auckland Transport today to discuss what to

(12:33):
do about safety on busses.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Now.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Obviously, what everybody wants, and in particular the Deputy Mayor
of Auckland, Desley Simpson, what everybody wants, in particular Desley,
is safety officers on the buses to try to stop
what happened yesterday. I'm glad to hear from everybody associated
with buses a little bit of resistance to this idea,
because this idea would make us feel good, but it

(12:55):
would not actually solve the problem that we've got. And
if we go down the path of simply because you
cannot have enough safety officers for every single bus that's
running every single minute of the day in Auckland, stopping
every single naughty thing that's happening right there is bad
stuff happening. But I tell you what, if you think
the safety officers are gonna fix it, they are not.
And also, no safety officer is gonna step in when

(13:18):
the guy pulls a knife and starts stabbing a lady. Right, No, allegedly,
no safety of officers gonna put themselves in that harm's way.
They're only there to stop low level stuff. So it's
not gonna fix the problem. And if we spend time
fixing doing stuff that doesn't fix the problem, it means
we don't address the things that will actually fix the problem.
And I think the things that actually fix the problem
are putting these people when they behave badly in the slammer,

(13:39):
keeping in them in the slammer for longer, rehabilitating, mental
health support, all of that kind of stuff. It's a
societal issue. Anyway, we'll talk to Mark Mitchell after five
o'clock and just get his take on what they are
actually going to do and where they're gonna go down
that path. Hither, I cannot wait to hear Sports and
Zy justify their thank you e cards. You are not
going to hear Sports New Zealand justify their thank you

(14:01):
e cards because producer Andy was just calling Sports New
Zealand not long ago in Sports New Zealand does not
want to have to talk about this on the radio.
And the reason Sports New Zealand doesn't want to have
to talk about this on the radio is because there
is no justification for spending money like this. These guys are,
come on, can we please be a little bit more
careful with taxpayer money? This is ridiculous. What they did

(14:25):
was they put about one hundred and thirty one hundred
and thirty two thousand dollars into this thing, and another
group put forty thousand in so this thing cost one
hundred and seventy thousand dollars and basically what it paid
for was the online ability for somebody like me to
go on and send a thank you card to my
son's volunteer coach. Right, an electronic thank you card. Who
wants an electronic thank you card? Oh my gosh, don't

(14:49):
ever send me one. It just wastes my inbox space.
It means nothing to me. I delete it. I want
a proper card that I can put on the mantelpiece. Otherwise,
don't bother anyway. What makes us worse is not just
the fact that but it was one hundred and seventy
thousand dollars. It was only used two hundred and ninety
eight times, which meant literally every single one of these
e cards, Remember it was just an email cost five

(15:10):
hundred and seventy five dollars. Five hundred and seventy five
dollars you could have bought eighty five hundred and eighty
rugby bulls. Thank you to the Taxpayers Union for digging
this up and doing the numbers for us. You could
have bought fourteen crates of spates for each one of
those coaches, which I'll tell you what I would take
forty I don't even like spates, and I would take
fourteen crates of spats over one email. So I don't

(15:32):
know what's going on at Sports New Zealand, but somebody
needs to go in there and take some money off them,
because I clearly got way too much. It's just wasting it.
You're not going to hear from them, but the Sports
Huddle and I are going to talk about this some more.
So if Sports New Zealand thinks that they dodge a
bullet by not coming on, you don't we still talk
about it. You just don't get to participate in the conversation.
So that's a fail, isn't it?

Speaker 8 (15:51):
Headlines Next day's newsmakers talked to Heather first, Heather.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Duper c Allen drive with one New Zealand let's get
connected and news talk z.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Been Verry sobers with us in ten minutes time. Dan
Mitchinson is standing by out of the US. Heads up,
Heads up if you want to get into you know,
I don't know, hiring a bike Darlene's husband to set

(16:29):
up a new bike business again. It's an e bike business.
The company officer documents show that Christian has registered himself
for a little company called Woohoo Trading, with him listed
as the sole director and shareholder. He's not going to
sell the e bikes this time. He's going to hire
them out, which actually I could be into. Might be

(16:50):
conflicted about where I hire them from. Apparently former staff
at his previous bike business, and not particularly stoked about
this because they reckon. He still owes them money. Anyway,
Heads up, in case you're out there looking at e
bikes in the future, just check who's running the place.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Hither.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
I run a restaurant in west Auckland, you know, buy
my alcohol from the supermarkets on the North Shore because
it is so much cheaper, even with a discount from
the trusts. Nobody should have a monopoly on anything that's
from Dino twenty three away from five.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
It's the world wires on news talks. It'd be drive well.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
It has been a busy day and some more At
the Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting, the King made a
speech to kick it all off, and our own Prime
Minister Chris Luxon has attended some meetings, including a face
to face with Sir Kia Starma. The UK Prime Minister
Ozzie Prime Minister Albow got some face time with Sir
Quia as well. Albo says they talked about climate change.

Speaker 9 (17:38):
Are we today discussed importantly our new Climate and Energy
partnership that we will be delivering on. We have a
common view about the challenge but also the opportunity that
climate change action represents.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Our political edits ad Jason wols is at Chogam. He'll
be with us just after five now. The US is
making another attempt to get negotiations for a Gaza sees
fire back up and running. American and Israeli diplomats are
meeting with Katari mediators this weekend in Doha. US Secretary
of State Anthony Blincoln is still pretty hopeful the war
can be ended diplomatically.

Speaker 10 (18:12):
The reason I believe there's opportunity now is because the
biggest obstacle to concluding that agreement was Sinwha, and the
fact that he is no longer with us perhaps creates
an opening for actually moving forward and concluding an agreement.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
And finally, a plague of ticks may or may not
be descending on the Australian East Coast. I'm going to explain. Okay,
so there have been reports of ticks fighting people in
their pets all the way from Queensland to Victoria. Now,
don't panic yet, because while some experts think the coast

(18:49):
is in for a summer of ticks because of the
humid conditions, other experts are saying this is perfectly normal.
It's just a population boom that happens every single year,
so it is not necessarily an uptick.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
The Friday Sports Huddle International correspondence with Ends and Eye
Insurance Peace of Mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Dan mentioned some US correspondents with US.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Now, Hey, Dan, uptick, I get it now?

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Oh come on, do take you that long, Yes, I'm blind.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Have you ever come across a tech in your life?

Speaker 11 (19:23):
Ah, I don't think so gross that.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yeah, yeah, there's something. There is something I think, I mean,
because like, what's the difference between a tech and a mosquito?
Not a lot, right, But there's something just about the
quantity of blood that they draw from you and when
you squish them and there's just blood everywhere that is
just so foul, you know what I mean, It's like
a leak. Anyway, Listen, why are we thinking that the
La Times and a whole bunch of other outlets pulled
punches for Trumpy.

Speaker 12 (19:46):
Well, I think a lot of these companies, or at
least there are been accusations that they're trying to make
accommodations because this race is going to be so close
and there could be a second Trump presidency, and they're
thinking about how to avoid maybe any retaliation. I mean,
because Trumps has, you know, on the campaign trail, he's said,
I'm going to strip the broadcast licenses from the big

(20:08):
three major networks over here because of how they fact
checked him and his running mate during the debates, and
the coverage that he says is not unfair. Well, that's
not how it works over here. We've got the FCC,
the Federal Communications Commission, and they licensed television and the
radio stations here, but those Big three they own you know,
eighty local TV stations among them. So those are the
concerns that, well, maybe there could be some pressure put

(20:30):
on those local licenses right now. And then we had
the La Times deciding not to endorse a candidate, and
you owner, the paper made that decision, and there's already
been at least one resignation from the paper over that.
So I mean, I think there's concern. You know, are
these some of these companies really in the back pocket
of the left or the right?

Speaker 2 (20:49):
I mean, is it really the end of the world
if some of them are pulling their I mean, I'm
not saying that they should pull their punches on Trump,
but he gets a bloody hard time. I mean if
they pulled their punches sort of just evening it up
a week, but would.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Live well, I think it would be.

Speaker 12 (21:03):
It really depends on where you listen and where you watch,
and where you get your news from too. I mean,
you've got cable, you know, companies over here that are
very part is in one way leading to the left
like MSNBC, or to the right on Fox.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
But you're right.

Speaker 12 (21:16):
I mean, it seems like a lot of the media
companies tend to pick one candidate or the other sometimes
and they tend to favor one over the other. And
in this case, you know, there seems to be a
lot of love over Kamala Harris.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, yeah too. Right now, look, have we actually had
a recentencing decision on the Menindez brothers.

Speaker 12 (21:30):
Yeah, this is fascinating only because this this whole thing
has taken off, just not on social media and in
the real world. But I mean Netflix has this Menendez
series that has popped number one, And today the La
County District Attorney said, you know what, they're going to
recommend that the brothers get a new sentence in a
fifty years to life because they were under I think

(21:51):
it was the age of twenty six years old when
they committed these murders of their parents. And so they're
going to go tomorrow and file a petition and the
could make a decision in the next month or so.
And because of the time served, these guys could be free.
I mean, they've been tried twice for their parents' murders.
The first trial ended in a hung jury, and the
second one was you know, they're serving the sentence for

(22:12):
that right now. So, I mean, it's just a fascinating
case right now because so many people said, well, all
this evidence that that you're just bringing up right now,
I mean a lot of this has been out there
for for years and years, and why are you doing
this now just a week and a half before the election,
he said, The DA said, this has nothing to do
with the election. This has to do with how many
cases that we have in the system.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
It does it have anything to do with the Netflix interest?

Speaker 3 (22:33):
I don't think so.

Speaker 12 (22:35):
But I think there's been a ton more of interest
just because this happened to come out. And then we
got this news about a week or two ago that
the DA was going to make a decision, and now
this is happening, So it's I mean, and and then
the bits and pieces I've seen from the Netflix show,
which I do want to watch this weekend, have just
been fascinating too.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Okay, So it's just it's just it's just coincidental, just
really interesting.

Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Now, look how much time Okay, if New York City
gives pidos paid time. I'm off to kiva sick animals.
How much time are we talking?

Speaker 12 (23:03):
Well, I think that's one of the things that are
still up in the air right now. They're trying to
amend this sickly loss so that the pet owners can
take time off not just to care for their kids,
or their spouse or their their partner, but for their
their pets right now. And I mean there's a lot
of vague warding. I was trying to understand this when
I was reading through it earlier today, that it's not
just going to be you know, cats and dogs, but
it could be other animals that are covered under this

(23:25):
right now. Like you if you say that I have
a and we've had people that have tried to get
on airplanes over here with a peacock or something like
that or a goat and say it's my emotional support animal.
And if you're saying, well, my pet pig, which is
my emotional support animal, is not feeling well today, I'm
going to call in sick. I'm going to take a
sick day on that. I mean, what would you do
if you were a boss, or would you say you
know fair enough? I mean, it's your sick time. It's

(23:47):
yours to do with what you want.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yeah, well, it's just.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
About it's about the amount of time, right. So how
much do you get caring for a sick kid?

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Well, I mean you don't.

Speaker 12 (23:56):
I mean, like, for instance, maybe say the one of
the companies I work for, I get to maybe seven
days of sick leave. Yeah, you know year, right, so
you get maybe forty hours a year. How are you
going to spend that? Oh, I seem to have tonselidis.
Do you have to take care of a sick child
or do you just say I need a mental healthy
for myself. So I think that is what they're looking at,
that this would fall under that. But they're worried that
more people are going to take the time off and

(24:17):
that's going to cost companies more.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Too interesting, Dan, Thank you, Dan Mitchinson, US correspondent, will
talk to you again next week. Enjoy your weekend and
your Menindez Brother's viewing here, the tics are actually arachnids.
They're related to spiders. That just makes it worse, doesn't it.
Knowing that spider is sucking your blood as well as
the Spider's bad enough. Now King Charles has given a
speech at Chogham. He emphasized the importance of standing together

(24:40):
as we see more global tension. He's talked about the
challenges of disinformation and extremism, and then he also went
hard on climate change.

Speaker 13 (24:47):
We are well passed believing it is a problem for
the future since it is already.

Speaker 8 (24:53):
Undermining the development gains we have long afforded for.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Barry Soper is with US next coming up Quarter two.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Politics with centric credit, check your customers and get payments, certainty.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
Very so senior political correspondence with US now are buried.

Speaker 14 (25:05):
Good afternoon, Heather.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Okay, So, jeez, Willie Jackson's very upset about Prebble being
being as appointed to the White Hongey Tribunal.

Speaker 14 (25:12):
Yes, well, the appointment was announced a by this time yesterday,
in fact, when we were just going to air. And
the irony is with Richard Prebble being appointed is that
he first came to Parliament in nineteen seventy five and
that's the very year that the White Hongey Tribunal was established.
So he's got a pretty good understanding of the tribunal.

(25:34):
Not only that he's an experienced lawyer. He was, as
we know, an MP, was a Cabinet minister and a
fairly prominent one under the Longey administration. Apparently he's has
a great knowledge of Maldi language and he's as a lawyer,
he's represented EU on their behalf on various forupes. But

(25:59):
the entries thing is the Act put out a statement
of course on the announcement and of course he used
to be the leader of Act and it said, and
this is probably what God under all Willy skin was
that Act looked forward. It said to his contributions, ensuring
that the Treaty of why Tongy is interpreted and applied

(26:21):
in a manner that reflects what it actually says. And
of course, with that, because we all know that the
Treaty Principal's Bill is being sponsored by David Seymour Well
Labour's Willie Jackson, he says that Prev's appointment is simply unbelievable.
This is what he said on Radio New Zealand this morning.

Speaker 15 (26:40):
I think it's a shocking appointment. It's a real kick
in the guts for Mary. Here we've got a government
saying they're not anti Maori and defending themselves in terms
of getting rid of the real according in the legislation
text right across the specter and they appoint Richard Preble.
It's unbelievable. Really, it's like a point in Mike to

(27:00):
run national radio, or he should be the head of
public broadcasting. I mean, what needs is he going to
run the Tribunal. It's just a real kick in the
guts for Martin Well.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
I mean, that's actually quite funny and a.

Speaker 14 (27:12):
Terrible I think it's funny he said it on Radio
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
It's a really bad analogy from him because I would
argue that probably Aura and Z could do with having
Mike Holskin run the show, given that he is the
most successful radio broadcaster in the country. Right, yeah, well
they should be grateful asking it.

Speaker 14 (27:27):
At one stage, of course Front Morning.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Report and it was actually half decent.

Speaker 14 (27:32):
And it was half decent then, but look at it now,
Well there you go. You know, we'll look at the
whole station to be perfectly honest. And you don't want
to criticize your opposition.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
And yet you have yet you have.

Speaker 14 (27:44):
I listened to it every day, but I don't get
a hell of a lot out of it.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Oh my gosh, And you keep going, okay, that's enough
of that now listen to the Ministry of Health. Could
you explain to me why the Ministry of Health did
not tell the Minister Casey Costello that one of the
people that she was relying on, in fact the sister
in law of her opponent.

Speaker 14 (28:02):
Yeah, it's a disgrace. Actually, Love apologized the Health Ministry
now for not declaring that.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Telling everything they must have they should knew, because i mean,
come on, they had leak after leak after leak of
health documents coming out, and surely at some stage they
should have been I'm not saying that it was the
sister in law who was doing it, but at some
stage they should have been like, where could these leaks
possibly have come from? By the way, we should probably
tell you about this.

Speaker 14 (28:31):
Yeah, no, no, it's they've fallen well short and there
should be some action. I think it.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Actually, you'd have to be suspicious that they sat on
that information deliberately.

Speaker 14 (28:40):
Well, absolutely, I mean the acting Director General of how
for Marie Roberts. She said the ministry official had adhered
strictly to the conflict of interest rules, but the Ministry
had failed to then specifically pass on the conflict to
Casey Costello. Well, honestly, they sat on that knowledge knowing

(29:05):
full well that the person that was advising Casey Costello
on tobacco legislation was in fact the sister in law
of a Cheverrol. Now verel knew that too and obviously
sat on that information. And you can't tell me that
as Chris Hipkins has indicated that it was a distant relative.

(29:27):
I mean it's a sister in law. Hipkins said that
he pointed the finger at Winston Peters, who's been making
a lot of noise about this in Parliament this week.
He said Peter's actions were yet another example of the
government's contempt for workers. I mean, get real, he said,
Winston Peters has dragged another MP's family into political debate

(29:50):
and named and attack a public servant who can't answer
back a man. Rarely where does Chris Hipkins.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Come from trying to pretend that I Scheverral's sister in
law has some poor hard done by worker.

Speaker 14 (30:05):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh jeez, Verry, thanks very much. I really appreciate it.
Rap the political week that was later with you, that's
very sober, Senior political reporter Chaipa. If it wasn't for
the fact that he had such a nice smiley face.
You'd just be so cross at him the whole time.
Eight away from six.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Putting the time questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 16 (30:26):
Social Investment Minister Nicola Willis is with us. To my eye,
it's got a slightly wooly sort of feel. I mean,
what is social investment, what specifically is it and what changes?

Speaker 17 (30:35):
Well you think about basic concept. Everyone in New Zealand degrees.
Let's not have an ambulance at the bottom of the quest.

Speaker 18 (30:41):
Let's build thing.

Speaker 17 (30:42):
That's what social investment's about.

Speaker 18 (30:44):
It's about proper prevention and proper.

Speaker 17 (30:47):
Early intervention so that people don't go on to lead
life of crime, wealthy, dependency, under achievement, cleaning all of
that up and being much more pristical about what we
invest in and whether it's working.

Speaker 16 (30:59):
Fact Tuesday from six am, the Mike Hosking Breakfast at
the Rain driver of the last news talk ZV.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Hey, as I was telling earlier, by the way, it's
four away from five, not six, I'm getting ahead of myself,
just trying to get to that long weekend, aren't you.
By the way, as I was telling you earlier, it's
a big day for Luxeon today because he's going to
have dinner with Charles and Camilla at Chogham along with
all the other heads of government, and he's got to
meet the King for the first time. And even for
somebody who identifies as a soft Republican, I reckon that

(31:26):
would be pretty cool. It sounds like the chat Win
quite well.

Speaker 19 (31:30):
I wished him all the very best from all of
us in New Zealand for a speedy recovery and importantly also, yeah,
it was very obvious in our conversation that he has deep,
deep affection for New.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Zealand, not deep enough to come and visit us. So
let's calm that farm right down. But anyway, I suppose
the man's got an excuse at the moment he's not
particularly well. We're going to talk to Jason Wall's, a
political editor who is in some ware at Chogham. He
will be with us after five. David Warner is back,
as in like David Old sand Paper Gate, Ossie, Cricket,
evil Nemesis, you know, bad guy. He's back because Cricket

(32:03):
Australia has scrapped the lifetime leadership band that they gave him.
And this was by the way, just to because you're
probably wondering, like, how long has that been? Six years
Sam paper Gate was six years ago. Anyway, what happened
is that Cricket Australia changed the rules recently so that
players could appeal bands like this, like really long term bands,
and he thought about it and he decided he wasn't
going to because he couldn't be bother going through all

(32:24):
the kerfuffle because they really got done over these guys.
I mean, they got their punishment from the public on it.
But in the end somebody convinced him, now you need
to appeal. So he has a three person panel found
him to be genuinely sorry. He says he's taken responsibility.
He says he's been doing good things. He's been mentoring
the next generation of cricketers and blah blah blah, and
so basically the band's gone. He will now be able

(32:45):
to hold a formal leadership role with the Big Bash
League's Sydney Thunder this summer. So he's back doing the
thing that he loves. And we're going to have a
chat to the Sports Tuddle when they're with us after
hulf Us five about whether whether we're going to light
or has he actually done his time. I tend to
think he's done his time. So we have a chat
to them about that. And remember Mark Mitchell is also
with us very shortly on what that meeting has resolved

(33:07):
in terms of what to do on the buses. News
Talks dB.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
Pressing the newspakers to get the real story. It's hither
dup to c Ellen drive with one New Zealand, let's
get connected.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
News Talks dB.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Afternoon. The Prime Minister has met King Charles for the
first time. They're both at the Commonwealth Heads of Government
meeting and some more and Christopher Luxen says his meeting
with the King went well.

Speaker 19 (33:36):
He was very knowledgeable about a number of issues, very
knowledgeable about New Zealand, very interested in New Zealand. And
you know, it was a very natural conversation and it
was just the two of us sitting outside and having
a chat on a couple of seats.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
News talks HEDB Political edits to Jason Woolls. Is in
some war for us? Hey, Jason, good afternoon, Header. Do
we know what the two of them talked about?

Speaker 20 (33:55):
We have very little information as to what actually they
talked about. I mean, there is this apparently according to
the Prime Minister. There is a bit of a royal
protocol where you don't actually talk about what was said,
but you can kind of give a sort of vague
implication as what they talked about. And as you just
heard in that clip, they talked about how much the
King likes New zealand how much he has a deep

(34:16):
knowledge for it, and the Prime Minister said that he
was quite charming. So we know quite a lot of
surface level information such as that, but anything a little
bit deeper we probably won't know.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Did Luxon apologize over the navy ship sinking?

Speaker 20 (34:30):
Well, listen, he's sort of always has apologized in a sense,
I mean, he said from the beginning. He said he's
made his apologies clear to the Samoan governments and that
has been a theme throughout this whole time he's been
in Samoa for the Commonwealth Heads Forum. He talked about
it yesterday when he was addressing press. He talked about
it again today. But interestingly, interestingly, on the other side

(34:50):
of town, we're talking to Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters
who said that there is no apology necessary essentially, and
we just got finished with that stand up. So it
sounds like the two. We were on a slightly different
footing when it comes to that. But of course the
Prime Minister says he's already conveyed those apologies, so it's
already been done.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
So tell me what's the vibe that you're getting there
on the ground. Are they angry about the thing going down?

Speaker 11 (35:15):
Oh?

Speaker 20 (35:15):
Well, the thing is it's literally on the other side
of the island, so we can't physically see it, and
so there isn't this looming shadow from where we're sitting. However,
obviously it is metaphorically looming over this over Choggham. I mean,
there is a New Zealand Navy vessel that sunk in
their waters. I mean, there is a lot of climate

(35:36):
mitigation work going on.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Luxon was very clear.

Speaker 20 (35:38):
Yesterday that it has not been as bad as he
thought it was or any of the initial estimates in
terms of the environmental damage, and he said he's talking
that up to a big a good win, and of
course the fact that nobody died. So at this stage,
because there is a very limited environmental damage, it doesn't
seem like there is overwhelming upset. There was, as I understand,
supposed to be a protest planned around that, but that

(36:00):
didn't even go ahead today, so you know, if a
protest doesn't go ahead, you can't really assume that things
are really out of control with anger.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
There's some very interesting that Charles and his speech actually
addressed this issue of his government over in the UK
paying reparations for slavery, historic slavery. Has it been any
reaction to.

Speaker 3 (36:16):
That in terms of the Prime Minister.

Speaker 20 (36:19):
No, we were pretty focused on just I mean, there
was a lot of climate change chat that commentary that
King Charles had in his speech, and we briefly try
to bring it up with Winston Peters, who is less
than forthcoming to reporters about whether New Zealand has to.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Or what his reaction was to that.

Speaker 20 (36:37):
But it's the sort of thing. You know, you have
these deliberate lines in these set piece speeches, especially from
a monarch, that are specifically designed to set a news
agenda and start a conversation, and you can bet your
bottom dollar that's exactly what the press team and the
Royal in Castle Windsor we're doing.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Brilliant.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Jason, thanks very much, enjoy your time. There's news talks
there be political leader to Jason Woosey over in the UK.
This has been a massive, massive debate of late as
to whether the UK government needs to pay reparations to
people who were affected in country colonial You know, parts
of the colony and parts of the Empire that were
affected by the Transatlantic slave trade, and the precious really
been ratcheted up on the government. Sir Ki Starhm has
shot that down, but so has Charles today in his speech,

(37:18):
which I thought was interesting because normally they're supposed to
stay out of politics awebit. He acknowledged there were painful
aspects of Britain's past and then said none of us
can change the past, but we can commit to learning
its lessons, indicating no reparations coming. Eleven past five.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Heather Duplice Ellen Now.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Officials have held an urgent meeting this afternoon following the
fatal bus attack in Auckland on Wednesday. Thirty seven year
old kale Le Owner has been charged with murder. He
will appear in court next month. Auckland Transport Police and
government minister Simi and Brown and Mark Mitchell were involved
in today's meeting. Mark Mitchell is obviously the police minister Hamrich.

Speaker 5 (37:50):
Hi, how are you very well?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Thank you so did you make any decisions at this
meeting today.

Speaker 21 (37:56):
So basically, Sabian's going to have some announcements to make tomorrow.
From the police side of it, police had already searched
additional staff in and around the transport nodes and hubs
as a source of reassurance. We want to reassure people.
We want them to feel that it's safe to access
and use public transport and look to be honestly, there's

(38:18):
been some conversations over the last few weeks attempt with
Auckland transporters as well in terms of what else can
we do to sort of make that public transport yet
we're safe up.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
So I mean, I'm guessing that I'm guessing the announcements tomorrow.
The fact that there's an announcement means something's going to change,
and I'm guessing that's going to be boosting safety on
at least some of the buses.

Speaker 21 (38:36):
Yeah, yeah, I think some of it. And his team
will be working really hard on this and I think
that he will have an announcement tomorrow. I don't want
to get ahead of that. I can certainly talk to
what police have been doing. I mean, you know, they've
been outstanding their response. The offender nows and custody, which
was critically important. They'll have more to say and more
information to come in relation to the incident. But now

(38:57):
I'm really focused on reassurance and also, of course my
heart goes out to the family. I've reached out to
them and said if they want me to come and
see them with the visiting, I can do to support them.
They only have to ask Mitch.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Look, the thing is, I appreciate that there will be
an element of kind of making reassuring the public by
putting a safety element on the buses, but the fact
is that's not actually going to solve the fundamental problem here.
The fundamental problem is that we have got more people
in society who are acting up and who are unwell
and probably need to spend time behind bars. Isn't that
really how we fix this?

Speaker 21 (39:29):
Yeah, it is a societal issue, without a doubt, it's
a big one and there's something that we have to
really figure out and tackle. I mean, it doesn't matter
whether it's our first responders, whether it's retail workers. For
some reason in society, some people seem to have taken
taken upon themselves that they can act in a way
that's actually not acceptable, whether it be verbal or physical assaults,

(39:49):
and that is something that you know we're having to
deal with. But I'm optimistic. I'm very focused. We're very
focused in terms of what we have to do around policing,
and I'm also quite excited about the fact that obviously
we've got our Social Investment Agency standing up and that
is going to in my view, that is how we're
going to get lasting change in terms of dealing with
these real, deep, inter generational problems that we've been experiencing

(40:11):
as a country for a long time.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
All Right, Mitch, thanks very much, Mark Mitchell, Police Minister together,
do for sea el get a load of this. Okay,
If Wellington City keeps fixing the pipes underneath the ground,
all the broken pipes and stuff at the rate that
they are at the moment, it will only take six thousand,
three hundred and eighty eight years to replace them all.
So when none of us are going to be around

(40:33):
for that, are we probably? But you're being rated for it.
We're paying the rates for the next six thousand, three
hundred and eighty eight years in Wellington. Aren't ye imported?
Or are They're doing a little bit faster. It'll take
them to replace all the broken pipes and what not
five three hundred and twenty five years. Hut City absolutely fantastic.
They will nail it in three hundred and seventy one years.
And if you live in Wellington and you really want

(40:55):
to relocate to a place where the pipes are going
to be fixed with priority and much quicker, moved to
Upper Hut because there it will only take two hundred
and thirty three years. Quarter past here, the security guards
on buses would probably be a pointless waste of money.
They would be in the same category as the security
guards who sit outside Michael Hill jewelry stores and people
who sit in a van all day while watching YouTube videos,

(41:16):
neither of which would be able to stop an incident happening.
I totally agree with you on that, Robin. Right now,
it's eighteen past five. Now do you remember the Ardeppa
brain drink saga, Well, these guys are taking another crack
at this. About this time last year, Ardepa found themselves
in hot water when the government officials decided that made
some unsubstantiated health claims of cognitive and physical physical boosting
abilities and stuff, and they were forced to amend these claims.

(41:37):
They are now back launching a new brain drink plus.
It's called Uplift and Angus Brown is a co founder
of Ardepa Hay.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Angus half known either Hi, I'm.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Very well, thank you. So is this actually you can
say a brain drink this time you're not going to
get in trouble.

Speaker 22 (41:53):
Yes, So we canively say a brain drink.

Speaker 11 (41:56):
And we're very proud to say a brain drink.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Why is it a brain drink?

Speaker 22 (42:00):
Well, it's a brain drink because we've committed a lot
of time and effort towards conducting human clinical research and
having that peer review and published and at showing some
really interesting things.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
What are the interesting things?

Speaker 22 (42:15):
Well, unfortunately, due to the food code here in New Zealand,
we're unable to say the outcomes of our research until
we've put that through a.

Speaker 11 (42:26):
Self substantiated dossier.

Speaker 22 (42:29):
And so we have already submitted our first self substantiated
dossia with regards to one of our ingredients called our
thenain and then we're just waiting for more of our
published research to come through before we submit something entirely
on our formula.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
But we know.

Speaker 22 (42:45):
That there's definitely something in the drink that works, and
we're really excited to slowly show the world about it.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Are you as frustrated at redtape in this country as
I am?

Speaker 22 (42:58):
Yeah, it is quite to it's tough being a food product.
If we're a dietary supplement, we would be able to
talk about our published research more and link it even
on our website. So it's really really it is a
really tough market. But we kind of I kind of
respect that in a way in sense that you really
have to hold yourself to the highest standard to be
able to claim something in a food which is you know,

(43:21):
to be honest.

Speaker 11 (43:21):
That the biggest goal.

Speaker 22 (43:23):
And so we're on that journey and we're certainly making
some strides towards it, and we're still one of the
only drinks that you can pick up in the supermarket
that's got clinical research behind it. And then this learning
and this toughness in New Zealand is teaching us about
how we can become fitter for entering into bigger markets
like the US.

Speaker 11 (43:41):
So it's a blessing and a curse.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Hey, so where are you at with R But did
you manage to get this turned around by MPI? You're
still fighting them.

Speaker 22 (43:50):
No so Empire, so it's a bit of phoebe there.
So MPI have given us the all clear for all
of our labeling.

Speaker 11 (43:58):
And website, which is great.

Speaker 22 (44:00):
We've been working with them very closely on that, and
then we've just submitted our first round of health claims
that they are currently reviewing, so we're really looking forward
to and we're working closely with them on those health
claims to ensure that they comply with the schedule sex
and one point two point seven of Hey go about
doing this, it's a very hard feat. There are not
many companies in New Zealand that have been able to

(44:23):
get health claims signed off by MPI. So we're enjoying
the process and we're on really good terms with them.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Oh that's I'm pleased to hear it. I'm just loving
all that red tape you've got to get through. Angus.
That's Angus Brown, the ARTPA co founder. Hey, I want
to talk next about Shane Jones. He's done something I'm liking,
So let's discuss five twenty one.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
The man you trust to get the answers you need.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Heather due to see allan drive with one New Zealand
let's get connected the news talk as z'd be.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
It's twenty four past five. Now let me tell you
about something that I reckon is probably about the best
thing I've read today, and it's this Shane Jones given
an interview and he is revealed that when he and
New Zealand first go through all the pieces of law,
deleting the Treaty principles from them like they've promised to do,
he is especially keen to focus on the Conservation Act

(45:13):
and the Treaty principles in there. Now, for the nerds,
we're talking about Section four of the Conservation Act, which
requires anyone working under the Act to give effect to
the principles of the Treaty of White Pungi when interpreting
or administering anything under the Act. And this, of course
is the Act that governs what the Department of Conservation does. Now,
this is wonderful news because for the longest time I
have been so frustrated at what the Treaty Principles in

(45:36):
the Conservation Act is doing to DOC. It is part
of the reason why DOC cannot find a buyer for
the chateau and Tonga Edo because the local Ewi have
used the treaty principle to insist that whoever buys that
chateau only gets to run the place for the next
five to ten years. Max and Doc has to do
what the EWI says, because the treaty principle says it

(45:59):
has to. Which investor, though, is going to pour millions
and millions and millions and millions of dollars into fixing
that place up if they know that they might only
get five years of running the place. So they've tidied
the place right up and then in five years that's it.
You're out. Sorry, your concession was for five years. Who's
gonna put money into that? Who's gonna buy it? Nobody? Why?
Treaty principle. It's also part of the reason the treaty

(46:22):
principle is also part of the reason why there was
so much trouble trying to find anyone to take over
the to a pair whose ski fields and do it
properly because the EWE once again got to call shots
on the concessions because the treaty principle. And don't even
get me started on what's going on with Lake y
Kdemawana with the massive closures and the huts being removed
and the disrepair because of Touhoi. Now DOC has got

(46:43):
its hands tied, like absolutely tired by this treaty principle.
It is from what I understand, this is DOC, in
this relationship with EWE all around the country, not the
dominant partner. Right, It doesn't get to call the shots.
It is the subservient partner when it comes to making
decisions because the treaty principle makes the local ee the
dock prominent partner. Now that makes Doc's life very hard,
and it also makes things very expensive for US taxpayers.

(47:06):
So I'm glad that Shane Jones has got this particular
treaty principle in this particular law in his sights. And also,
do you know what the best but about it is,
Unlike with them Acts Treaty Principles Bill, this actually has
the support, by the sounds of things, of all of
the coalition partners. So when they go through delete delete, delete, delete,
nobody in that coalition is going to argue about it.
It's going to get done. Ever, dupuy Ellen, We're going

(47:28):
to talk to the sports Huttle very shortly. They'll bet
the US straight after the news. Carmala Harris. Now listen,
Carmala Harris is doing exactly the same thing that Clinton
Hillary Clinton did in twenty sixteen. She is going hard
on the old celebrities, leaning hard on them to help
her out. In the last couple of weeks of the campaign,
so she had Obama as in Barack and Bruce Springsteen
out helping her at a rally in Georgia. And now

(47:50):
there are rumors that she is going to be roping
in Beyonce as well. Now I know that you go, oh, whatever,
Beyond say, we've heard this before because we all remember
with the DNA see, and everybody's getting excited about Beyond
Beyonce is going to be on stage. We'll sat around going, yep,
is pink coolper Beyonce? And then she never showed up,
and it was really weird because they just let us

(48:11):
believe that nobody killed the rumors. But this time, apparently,
according to three people familiar with the matter, Beyonce is
going to appear at a Houston rally for Karmela in
the next day or so, so we might finally get
our wish a free concert from Beyonce. Headline's next.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
On your smart speaker on the iHeart app and in
your car on your drive home, hither dup to see
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news talk as z' beelsdy.

Speaker 22 (48:55):
Just take it.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
It's to find us desperation. If you're needing to lean
so heavily on so called celebrit they're not listen. Beyonce's
I'm so called celebrity, Nora's, Barack Obama, Nors, Bruce Springstring,
they are just straight out celebrities. These are like a
class celebrities. But it's not a great it's not a
great strategy, and I probably should have finished my thought
earlier because the problem is Hillary did this in twenty sixteen,

(49:18):
and what it made her look like was completely out
of touch with the common person because she was she
was Hilary. He hung out with celebrities, and meanwhile Donald
Trump was out there rooting for the common man and
kind of ish. Karmela's not falling into the same same
trapped kind of the same extent, but she's not far
off it because Trump's Flippenburger's at McDonald's, but she's hanging

(49:40):
out with Beyonce's probably I don't know, and he's hanging
out with the Hulk Hogan, all those kinds of people,
you know what I mean. So it's kind of starting
to do the same thing all over again. Listen, I
don't know if you caught it in the bulletin just before,
but Chippies acknowledged calling Aisheviril's sister in law was maybe
not a fib that he should have told. He said
he chosen the wrong form of words when he described

(50:01):
her as a distant relative. He says, I'll own that
it was an impromptu question from the media that I
wasn't necessarily expecting, which is to say, when I get questions,
I'm not expecting. I just think I should have used
a different phrase. I should have said relation by marriage
or some other description. I mean, what, who cares? Just so, yeah,
it's a relative. Listen, after six o'clock, we're going to

(50:23):
but good on him for you know, like I'm gonna
forgive him it out because at least he fest up
and was I get what was a mistake. Now, some
of Wellington's luminaries have banded together to form a group
to try to save Wellington City from the shamozzle it
finds itself in. Frankly it's eighteen of them who formed
a group called Vision for Wellington and it's a pretty
punchy group this It's got Kerry Prendergast in there, Dame

(50:46):
excuse me, Dame Kerry Prendergast, Dame Patsy Ready, Dame Therese Walsh,
Dame fran Wild, Sir Bob Jones, Rob Morrison, Miles Rob
Morrison's a very very well to do businessman, Miles Gaisley,
the guy who sells all the cars and is you know,
man about town. Simon Wolf the photographer and also former
Wellington City councilor current Regional counselor. Mike Egan who owns

(51:08):
Monsoon Peronin is a mover and shaker in the hospitality business.
Our very own fran O'Sullivan, they're very lucky to have her.
And then Neil Paviersmith who's the Forsyth bar managing director,
former Victoria University chancellor, and the list goes on like
it's a really it's a smart group of people. They
have apparently been working in the background for months, but
they were forced to show their hand when the government intervened,

(51:28):
and the suggestion is that they may have lobbied the
government to intervene. We're going to talk to fran Wild
after six. We'll ask her about that also, what I
It's one thing to form a group, but what are
you going to do now that you've formed a group?
Will have chat to her and just see what the
plan is. Twenty two away from.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Six Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty
elevate the marketing of your home Chance Chance and Gone
Washington Sunder's.

Speaker 15 (52:01):
Got for As each goes, the preparation picks up another
level and it's about making.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
Sure that we're connected closely as a group.

Speaker 20 (52:08):
Game over New Zealand, comprehensive winners.

Speaker 7 (52:13):
Over Australia for the second game in a row.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
On the Sports title this evening we had Andrew Gordy
n zbkey we head of Communications and Nick Bewley, News
Talk ZB Canterbury Sports Reader.

Speaker 19 (52:23):
Hello you too, evening.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Hit up Nick, tell me you've heard of Washington Cinder before.

Speaker 23 (52:30):
I have, probably not to the same degree that I
did yesterday when he took seven for Korea beast figures
in a first class match, let alone in a Test
match against New Zealand. But yeah, seven wickets it was
always going to be a spinner's paradise, wasn't it? The
wherever the next Test was after our boys, our seam
bowlers in particular Matt Henry and Will O'Rourke, caused havoc

(52:51):
in that First Test to a famous victory for New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
But now we're sort of back to where we're more accustomed.

Speaker 23 (52:58):
To being in India, of battling the unfamiliar conditions. Although
I see both our spinners AJS Patel and Mitchell Sant
there as things standard are trying to make a good
fist of it in response.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
But yeah, it's going to be a tough ass, that's
for sure.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Is it going to be a tough ask? Audio or
would you still write our chances?

Speaker 6 (53:17):
Oh, it's always a tough ask.

Speaker 24 (53:18):
Heither, and I think we probably should have expected it
was going to be a tough ask after that performance
in the First Test, expecting nothing other than to play
cricket on an absolute dust bowl of a pitch there
and no surprise to see Indian spinners claim all ten wickets.
It's probably not even really much point in playing any
past bowlers in this Test. So yeah, looking forward to

(53:39):
seeing what ags and Santana can do. But I wouldn't
rule us out completely just yet. She's still early days.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
She is early days, right, I mean, if you think
about it, Nick, we notched up to fifty nine. That's
not the world's worst innings.

Speaker 23 (53:54):
No, obviously, there's two hundred and fifty eight numbers lower
than two dred and fifty nine. Heare little Look yeah
for one, yeah, look, look, but I suppose the counter
to that is it could have been a lot better.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
I mean, New Zealand found themselves in a pretty handy
position there. Thing it's about one eighty to three.

Speaker 23 (54:12):
Some established batters just didn't go on as they did
in Bengalaru guys like Conway Ravendra and then the middle
to lower order, which has been a real archy ales
here for this New Zealand Test cricket side for some
time sort of wilted under the pressure. So look, yeah,
as Gordy said that, they're not out of it. This
is a critical day though. You know, India could really

(54:34):
take it beyond a Black Caps win here if they
can knuckle down and handle our spinners.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Now, listen, Gordy, I reckon the most likely outcome in
the netball between New Zealand and Australia is two a piece,
isn't it. We win the two at home, they win
the two in Australia and it's a tie.

Speaker 24 (54:48):
Yeah, I won't disagree with you there. That seems to
be the way history goes with this competition, doesn't it.
Two wins from New Zealand, two wins for Australia, or
vice versa, depending on who's hosting the first game. So
I don't actually personally mind the way that they've decided
to go about setting these new rules with a bit
of sort of sudden death extra time when it comes
to deciding the overall tournament. Personally, I think there is

(55:10):
perhaps an argument to retain the aggregate score, but perhaps
that's only for the purpose of ensuring that neither team
sends a week in side across the tasma, knowing that
they can just simply stack their team when it comes
across the other side.

Speaker 6 (55:26):
So this sudden death stop.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
It's much more fun, isn't it, Nick? Because I mean,
who wants to get to the end of the fourth
mat the fourth game, and then we've got to go
and sit there and count numbers to see who won.
I'd rather have them battle it out for the next
few minutes.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Wouldn't you just to pivot back to the cricket. It
looks like New Zealand a spin bowl is taken awak
at here this that's pretty.

Speaker 2 (55:44):
Ext We took girl, didn't we.

Speaker 25 (55:48):
Review?

Speaker 11 (55:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (55:48):
Sorry, yeah, hopefully sends aren't listening. But yeah, back on
the netball. I suppose in a perfect world personally, I mean,
I can't stand even a mount of games in a series.
You know, we need an odd number, you know, New
Zealand cricket, just to go back to that.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
For so long we're given two Test series.

Speaker 23 (56:08):
It's brilliant that this one against India is actually three,
But why can't we have five or three and alternate it,
you know, aggregate but the extra time.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
I like the extra time. But the year who sat
there and.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Went do you know what? We can decide who's the
best if we play for like that person obviously didn't
do school seemaths? Did they.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
No? No to agree?

Speaker 23 (56:32):
There's obviously there's obviously some sort of given and take
there on both sides. Maybe they don't like being having
to share. You know, you get more net this year
than vice versa the next year. But I think we're
over complicating it. It adds an element of intrigue and I
personally agree.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
It's better than the aggregate score.

Speaker 23 (56:50):
I no one's to be sitting there with their calculator
going off. We only lose by ten, We're still going
to hold the trophy at the end, but.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
Just on the silver fence, like, well, where has this
team been?

Speaker 23 (56:59):
Like I was sitting there watching the England series with
my wife and they were just so far, you know,
removed from what they look like against Australia, and Australia's
beating England.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
It's a real kid scratcher that, you know.

Speaker 23 (57:11):
Something's a significant turn of events obviously, but look, as
the formers suggested and the history suggested this competition, whoever
plays at home WinCE?

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Yeah too, right, Okay, we'll take a break. Come but
by the way, Sat nabold Girl LBW, so the go.
That's not bad at all. Come back and just to
take sixte away from.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
Six The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty,
local and global exposure like no other.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Back with the Sports Hittle Andrew Gordy and Nick Buley. Gordy,
what's going on? With Sports New Zealand spending all this
money on these little like e little emails you can
send volunteer coaches and it could send to about three
hundred of minute across, like five hundred and seventy five
dollars per email.

Speaker 24 (57:49):
I've just seen this this afternoon here that what on
earth are they spending five hundred and seventy five dollars
on an email for what can possibly go in to
an email that costs five hundred and seventy five No,
absolutely backfled by that.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
How much money do you reckon? You have to have
to think that five hundred and seventy five dollars for
an email that the rest of us just do for
free is a good idea.

Speaker 6 (58:14):
Way too much.

Speaker 26 (58:15):
You've got to have way too and what we're talking
one hundred and seventy one thousand, five hundred and ninety
eight dollars to say thank you to a few coaches.
There's way way better ways to spend that money. And
I think people are kind of right to be outraged
by this. There are I mean, we could come up
with it. We could have a pretty good brainstorming session,
I think, on this very show to figure out how

(58:36):
we might be able to spend five hundred and seventy
five dollars per person as a better way to say
thank you.

Speaker 2 (58:43):
I literally would have rather than have anything than an
email to say thank you, wouldn't you?

Speaker 23 (58:50):
It's not my choice of communication. I think you know
the warmest regards.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
And all that. Just pick up the phone. I do
work about that? Look what about it?

Speaker 2 (58:58):
If I gain you, shouldn't it.

Speaker 3 (58:59):
Be fivendred and seventy five dollars all up?

Speaker 23 (59:01):
Because don't you just cut and paste the same thing?
I just I'm baffled by it.

Speaker 8 (59:05):
All.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
You just changed the name, don't you. It's just bizarre.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Would because because this is what we could have done
is instead of sending them these emails, we could have
bought each one of them fourteen crates of space. Now
what would you rather have? An E card or fourteen
crates of space?

Speaker 24 (59:20):
It wouldn't be spats, to be perfectly honest. So I
think we could better option that space, couldn't we.

Speaker 26 (59:24):
I know that you were down there in.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Christ tough for US Southern listeners, but yes.

Speaker 24 (59:28):
I'm humping with something better than space perfectly well, I.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Would I would have taken the fourteen crates of space
and then traded them for something else, like just maybe
one creative parrot dog. But I would absolutely I would
absolutely have taken something in my hands, not just a
bloody email. It's ridiculous. Hey, Nick, do you reckon that
that Warner's done his time and deserves to come back.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
It's an interesting one, isn't it.

Speaker 23 (59:49):
I'm a bit baffled by the whole thing, given he's
so late in his career. I know it's a lifetime
ban and a lifetime leadership ban. How do you even
how do you police leadership? It's quite subjective, isn't I
suppose it's just a captain's arm band. But you can
be a mentor and a leader in any capacity. But yeah,
I mean how long ago was it now? Twenty eighteen,
six years ago? Lifetime ban? I think when we reflect,

(01:00:12):
it's probably a little bit harsh when we compare it
up to other lifetime bans.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
I'm personally okay with it.

Speaker 23 (01:00:19):
I just think the whole thing's a bit weird, and
maybe it's just more ego striking for David one.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
And I'm not too sure you, Gordy.

Speaker 24 (01:00:25):
I think it's probably just another example how many times
do you see in sport, especially some kind of lifetime
ban dished out and then a few years later, once
the dust is settled and everyone's forgotten about it, you
just overturn it. I mean, I think it was probably
just a bit of an overreaction at the time, but
I think if you cast your mind back to that period,
this was one of the most serious and appalling acts

(01:00:48):
in Australian sporting history that struck right at the very
heart of the integrity of Australian sport, which is pretty
flimsy to be fair, but I can understand why they
came down hard at the time, but at zero surprised
to see them come to this point overturn at the
bloke's thirty seven years old. It's not as though when
it comes to wearing the baggy green he's going to
have much more of a meaningful contribution to make to

(01:01:09):
Australian cricket in the years going forward. But when it
comes to I suppose, you know, perhaps a post career
and coaching and things like that, or god forbid, administration.
I don't know if I'd trust David Warner with any
kind of administrative role within you know, Australian cricket or
state cricket for that matter.

Speaker 11 (01:01:23):
But I've got my issue with it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Hey, Coally gone for one fifty three bowl by Saturary again,
how thought about that? Stick your finger in the air
and wave it about like you just don't care. Hey,
I see, I'm a dad. I'm a dad making dad jokes.
Neko see you're trying desperately to get us to give
you an NRL franchise down there?

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Oh desperately?

Speaker 23 (01:01:44):
Well, I think you're just going to look at the
wave of momentum of Rugday League in the South Island Heather.
We've sold out this double header the Test the Kiwi
fans and Kiwis and the Jilarus and Kangaroos on Sunday
seventeen zerousand was sold out some time ago.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
That's on top of the Warriors.

Speaker 23 (01:02:01):
We're down here earlier in the year and sold out
our temporary stadium there.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
They're coming back next year and they're pretty keen to Yeah, a.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Regular NRL law. Is it just because it's an event? Like,
are you guys just desperate for.

Speaker 23 (01:02:11):
Any I mean that's a fair point. Look, is it
the novelty factor? And we don't get a lot of
rugby league here. I tend to think that there is
while it is, you know, by and large a rugby
union region, that there is a groundswell of momentum building
in and around the code. We've now got the back
to back secondary school national title team Addison Thomas's.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
There's a lot of players playing both.

Speaker 23 (01:02:34):
Sorry Gordy, look, but with the stadium and with the
NRL's ambitions to get to twenty teams, and yes, it
almost looks at fat of Komple they're going to get
into Papa New Guinea with some government support as well.
But it seems an absolute no brainer to me, and
I think it's long overdue. Hopefully Andrew Abdo and all
those administrators looking.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
On Sunday just go. Look, it's a matter of when,
not if, we need to get this done.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
I'm increasingly convinced, Gordy, what about you?

Speaker 24 (01:02:59):
I got to say, I'm changing my mind on this
as well, because the point I would make is that
when this NRL franchise was being talked about for the
first time, it came off the back of the sensational crowds.
I suppose that they got for a Warriors ficture down
there the preseason fixture and I was sort of sitting
there going is this about them supporting the Warriors or
supporting the code? And as you quite rightly say, nak

(01:03:21):
turning out to watch the kiwis now which suggests it's
more than just an NRL thing. It's a support for
the code and everything. Well, I suppose that rugby league
in the NRAL has now become so I can see
now that. Yeah, perhaps there is a change or turning
of the tide there. It's not just about supporting the
Warriors and the clear height that's being built around that club,

(01:03:41):
especially over the last couple of years, but perhaps there
is a genuine groundswell of support for the code itself.
And if you've got that, then you probably do have
the foundations to build a franchise down.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Yeah, I don't have the idea. Guys. Thank you, Enjoy
your week in a sport appreciated. Get Andrew Gordy mcberley
a huddle this evening, seven away from six.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
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Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
Your drive home.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Heather Duplice Alan drive with one New Zealand one giant
Leap for business news talk.

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
As I should include the Sports New Zealand statement, shouldn't I?
Primary goal of the Sports nd Z Coaching campaign was
to highlight the importance of volunteer coaches as fundamental contributors
to the well being of tamaikend rang atahi across altse
heat or do you hate them already? Because that first
sentence already triggered me, hasn't it is what word salad?
General awareness of the campaign was high, with more than

(01:04:30):
twelve point five million impressions across digital media and while
there were two hundred and ninety eight personal messages of
thanks to coaches throughout New Zealand. The campaign was designed
to highlight how important coaches are and to encourage more
coaches to step up and volunteer, and without them, the
sports system could not function, and a secondary objective was
enabling young people to send a direct thank you to
their coach. I'll tell you what, I could save them
a lot of money, guess So basically what they're saying

(01:04:51):
is their actual ecard. Sending the emails was not actually
what it was about. It was just about raising awareness
of volunteers. What I would have done was I would
have got so they spend one hundred and seventy K, right,
so I would have taken maybe ten K, and then
I would have bought something really really cool for one
volunteer coach. Then I would have gone to seven sharp
and all the other soft media out there, and I

(01:05:12):
would have said, come and watch us treat this volunteer
coach with this amazing present that we've bought for ten
thousand dollars. And then I would have got shed loads
of media coverage of it, and I would have saved
myself one hundred and sixty thousand dollars and raise just
as much awareness. Probably they need better media people. It's
quite simple. Anyway, Now we're going to have to move

(01:05:33):
on because now I've just decided to talk about them again.
So they should probably have come on the show and
talked themselves, because we've talked a lot about how stink
Sport New Zealand is and no real defense from Sport
New Zealand because they decided they didn't want to talk
about it. They could have come on for free and
talked about volunteer That would have helped raise them, like
you know what I mean. You could have come on
and talked about it and then just been like volunteer
coaches are awesome. Voluntary got some more digital awareness of

(01:05:56):
it if they wanted to, if they're really smart at
their jobs. Anyway, We're going to talk to Dame fran
Wild next about what Vision New Zealand is going to do.
Somebody's text through Collins texts through suggesting this team of
eighteen people are going to try to influence the election
the next council elections by standing a team who will
do well for Wellington. I don't hate that idea. We'll
ask her if that's what they're about. NEWSTALKSB to start them.

Speaker 1 (01:06:31):
We're Business meets Insight the Business Hour. We'd hinder Duplessy,
Allen and my Hr on NEWSTALKSB.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Even in coming up for the next hour. Antonio Gutris
has turned up at that meeting in Russia, Brazil, Russia, India, China,
South Africa, bricks for a lot of them. Peter Lewis
is going to talk us through why he's there. Barry
Soople will rap the political week that was and Gavin
Gray out of the UK for US seven past six.
Now prominent Wellingtonians have formed a group to try to
get the capital out of the doldrums. Sir Bob Jones,

(01:07:05):
Dames Patsy Ready and Kerry Prendergaste, even our own fran
O'Sullivan are all members of the group Vision for Wellington,
that's what they're calling themselves. Is being pitched as a
non partisan group that will consult the public to work
out ways of fixing Wellington's problems. And also part of
the group is Dame fran Wild who's with us now,
Hafran How are you, Heather. I'm very well and it's
good to talk to you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Tell me you've been around in Wellington for a while, right,
How does this particular low point, this slump rate in
terms of what you've seen? Is it the worst or
is it comparable to what you saw in the late
eighties early nineties.

Speaker 18 (01:07:36):
It's pretty bad. When I took over as mayor in
the early nineties, it was Wellington was in the doldrums.
But we got a council and that were prepared to
work together and it was interesting. We had people of
so versus Rex Nichols on one side and too Keduley
who was Green, and yes, they all had their views,

(01:07:57):
but there was a compromise enough to get big things done.
And we don't seem to be getting this with this COUMP.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Well, your reckon has gone wrong that they can't work together.

Speaker 18 (01:08:09):
I think it's just been a slow slide into it
party politics, people just getting entrenched views and then personalizing issues.
It's just not working. Local government should be different from that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
So what is vision for Wellington's plan?

Speaker 18 (01:08:26):
Well, first of all, it was just a few of
us who every now and again saw one another and said,
oh my god, you know it's pretty bad, and then well,
what are we going to do about it? And so
I'm glad you said the were ateen. I thought, oh
my gosh, I don't even know how many people there are,
but there's a group. And we thought, why don't we
actually say something publicly and say we want to provide

(01:08:48):
a platform where Wellingtonians, whoever they are, can come on
board and be part of a conversation about how we
would like the city to be.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
Will you what candidates at the next election?

Speaker 18 (01:09:02):
Not as a group, not not that I'm aware of.
We haven't certainly that's not been what our objective is.
It's possible people may stand, but the group will get
quite big. We think we've already had hundreds today contacting us.
But I think the one big thing about the next
election is people have to vote. In the last by election,

(01:09:25):
I think it was down to only about a quarter
of the role voting. So frankly, I've always said, if
you don't vote, you can't complain about the what the
bugers do?

Speaker 21 (01:09:35):
You know?

Speaker 18 (01:09:35):
Afterwards? You're disqualifying yourself from criticizing if you don't vote.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Talking talking is one thing, but I mean it would
probably help if you had money behind you.

Speaker 18 (01:09:45):
Do you No, we don't. But actually we're hoping that again,
this will be something which will be much more generic, crowdsourced.
This is not just a few wealthy people saying well
a whole lot of money at it. We haven't even
talked about that, frankly. But what we have talked about
quite recently, because it's all quite new, is we try

(01:10:07):
and get some groups together to talk about different issues
and come up with some great ideas that we think
Wellingtonians generally will buy into and present them to the council.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
Okay, I see what you're going to do there. So
how long have you guys been working together?

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Then?

Speaker 18 (01:10:22):
It hasn't been that long. I've trying to work that
out today. As I've said, it's grown from a few
of us who saw each other every now and again
to now in the last few weeks saying that we
have to actually do something about this, and we probably
should do something publicly. So it's pretty recent.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
There is a suggestion that some members of the group
had lobbied the government to get the government to intervene.
Is that true?

Speaker 18 (01:10:47):
Well said, it's really interesting because I know we're all
accused of having met up with particularly Simin Brown. Last
time I saw him was December last year and it
was actually talking about Auckland. Not willing to but nothing
wrong in Auckland. Oh no, no, not perfect. But actually

(01:11:07):
it is possible people have talked to I mean, some
of these people talk to menus. There's a lot they're
working with them. So I'm you know, yes, people will
have talked to ministers, but actually we certainly haven't had
a you know, any kind of formal lobby.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
With informal not formally. Do you think the government's done
the right thing to intervene.

Speaker 18 (01:11:28):
I certainly do. I think that the having a Crown
observer is will be it's a big shot across the bows.
This is not just about the mayor of Bonington. This
is about the whole councilor and counselor behavior and so
having somebody there watching how things are working, being able

(01:11:50):
to dig down a bit and see, you know, what
is behind decision making will be really critical.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Friend, thank you so much for talking us through and
thanks also for stepping in to do something about it.
The city deserves it. Dame fran Wild, who's a Vision
for Wellington, a Vision Wellington member. Now looks like we've
taken another wicket in the cricket.

Speaker 27 (01:12:06):
I'm going to do my best say that your shaves
e jay as well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
I'm not going to repeat it. Okay, taken by whom
Phillips hold on and it's just going to go and
check this fat it's.

Speaker 27 (01:12:17):
Anyway, how good?

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
What is Phillips? A spin bowler? Yes, there we go,
So it's the spin bowlers. Look look at us. It's
like we actually know what we're talking about with a
cricket seventy two for four. So actually, don't count us
out of this test too early, because it looks like
we're doing okay, a little bit of a reality check
for us on the economy, because look, here's the thing
I and I need a reality check as well. I'm

(01:12:41):
very excited, very very very very excited about the interest
rate cuts, like I think a lot of people are.
But and it did cause a bounce in confidence all
over the show, but consumer confidence has fallen down again.
This is according to the latest alien zed Roy Morgan's survey.
It was up on the up for three months in
a row, but then this month down four points to
ninety one point two. Current and future confidence indicas both

(01:13:04):
reported toclines. Regional data pointing to deteriorating job security is
a key factor. A net net fourteen percent rather of
us expect to be better off this time next year.
That's down eleven points. Perception of the economy in twelve
months is down as well, two points. It's not massive,
it's down to nineteen percent. Outlook for five years fell

(01:13:24):
by three points to plus six percent. Oh, by the way,
it was negative nineteen I should have said before. So
it seems like what's happened is we all got, like myself,
a little too excited about the interest rates coming down,
but then we realized it's going to take a while
for those interest rates to actually change our budgets. Plus
we've still got to go through all the job losses
and all that nonsense as a result of Adrian squeezing

(01:13:45):
the economy, so the realities, maybe a little bit of
exuberance and then a little bit of a resettling fourteen
past six.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather du
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Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Talksp Heather, I'm so happy about the Wellington Group. Praise
the Lord Jeremy. I couldn't agree with you more. I mean, look,
if even if all of these if the only thing
that these people do is stitch together some good ideas
and take it to the council, that will be doing
us an enormous favor in terms of trying to save
the capital, because surely the people around that council table

(01:14:21):
will realize that the ideas are coming from two former
and very successful mayors of the capital city, a guy
who owns like squillions of dollars worth of commercial property
and has dragged himself up by his own bootstraps, being
Sir Bob Jones, knows how to make a dollar, knows
how to make things work right, and they would look
at all the other luminaries in that group and be like,
surely they would think even two of those people are

(01:14:44):
smarter than all of us combined. We should listen to them. Amen.
Just hope it works anyway. Eighteen past six now Barry Soper,
Senior political correspondent, rapping the political week that was for us.
Welcome back, Barry, Hello again, have tho. Okay, So in
the end, it's probably damaged Andrew Bailey. It actually it's
damaged Andrew Bailey, and it's damaged Chris lux In a
weep at the saga, right because it wasn't becoming of

(01:15:05):
Andrew Bailey. And Luxon hasn't handled this particularly well. Yeah,
but on the scale of things, not that big.

Speaker 14 (01:15:12):
No, well, on the scale of things, it shouldn't really
have been very much at all for people that know
Andrew Bailey. And I've done a lot of talking around
about this because I know Andrew Bailey relatively well, and
you know, I've had a beer in the Coral Club
with him on the old occasion when I used to
commute between Wellington and Auckland. But the people that know

(01:15:35):
him better than I do, so that he sees humor
in the way other people might not see it, And
that's not excusing it. That's just I guess the eq equation.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
It means he makes lame jokes.

Speaker 14 (01:15:50):
He makes jokes that he finds extraordinarily funny and laughs
at them, but few others do laugh. And some of
us can be guilty of that from time to time.
And you know, I don't think there was any malice
in this at all, even though his political opponents would

(01:16:10):
say it's a disgrace, he should be demoted, removed from cabinet,
that's ridiculous. I think he made a genuine mistake and
as he said on God only knows how many occasions
in the debating chamber that he was mortified that somebody
had taken offense at what he had said. And you know,

(01:16:35):
I think we should say, Okay, move on, he's done
a mayor collpa. Accept it for what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
Yeah, because because the whole, the whole thing that has
been so far, the opposition has tried to stitch together
some sort of a narrative and catch him out lying
or it's just there's nothing else other than this complaint.

Speaker 14 (01:16:51):
Well, you know, I think it's a bit rich and
it made me think back. Dare I say it to
the Gindadurn days when they basically didn't address issues. One
was a sexual predator within the ranks, not an MP,
but certainly an official that worked for labor and just

(01:17:15):
day after day after day refused to become involved in it.
And that was much more outrageous than what we've seen
here with Andrew Baileyard.

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
Suggest Tory fano rough week for her though.

Speaker 14 (01:17:30):
Well, if they can't have seen that coming, I don't know.
Perhaps it's a good indication of what the council is
all about. The writing was on the wall from the
time that somebody as senior as Nikola Willis said that
the Council was shambolic and a government does have the
power that we saw today or we saw this week.

(01:17:50):
I should say that Samin Brown has, and that is
to a point what is effectively a nark in the
council meetings to see how they are run if they
are efficient, and I think it's pretty obvious they particularly
inefficient when they can't arrive at a long term plan,
and it would seem that Tory fun now in terms

(01:18:12):
of leadership. She can't remember what she said at the
beginning of an interview towards the end of an interview,
and that's happened on more than one occasion. I mean,
this woman is clearly not capable of leadership and she's
shown that through the Wellington City Council and the long
suffering ratepayer, and Wellington are the ones that have to

(01:18:34):
bear the brunt and also bear the brunt I might say,
of this political observer or this Crown observer.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
They'll be paying for that.

Speaker 14 (01:18:43):
And I think there's a Freudian slip that Simeon Brown
made this week when he said Colm yeah and then
crowded on, but he was meaning a commissioner. And I
think you'll find in the end when the NARK reports
back to the local body Minister, you'll find there'll probably

(01:19:03):
more action.

Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
Than what we saw this week as in commissioners. Yeah,
mixed bag for the Greens though, because the Tory Fano
thing was pretty bad. But then on the other hand
they managed to get a win and get rid of Darling,
so that's good for them.

Speaker 14 (01:19:14):
Yes, absolutely, And you know there was an expectation that
maybe they would have waited until the Court of Appeal
process was through about her sacking in the first place
by the Greens, but they decided no well, the Speaker
did that the walker jumping legislation was appropriate in this case,

(01:19:35):
and again it was obvious. I mean, when you remove
an MP from a political party, you upset the proportionality
of the party. Regardless of whether that MP consistently votes
for the party that got her into Parliament in the
first place, it's still they can't rely on her. So
the proportionality is upset, and the walker jumping legislation. Finally,

(01:20:00):
he is seen by the Greens as their way out.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Barry, thanks very much, really appreciate it's very so pre
senior political correspondent. Wrapping the political week that was Listen
dropped a catch unfortunately, could have taken Safa as calm
but dropped. Santa was bowling but dropped its slip and
it was a tough one to take. But Mitchell will
probably be frustrated by that because geez, I mean, what
would that That would have been three wickets in the

(01:20:25):
space of what thirty runs. We're doing quite well six
twenty three.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:33):
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ZB taken pennt.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
He's gone eighty three for five. How good, and he's
out for eighteen. Okay, baby Roue. Now I have been
following the Baby Roux case. I'm sure that you have.
I'm very pleased to see the police announcement today they
have done a targeted search in a semi rural area
north of Wellington along Moonshine Row, which is off State
Highway fifty eight, which is twenty minutes by car sorry

(01:21:04):
from the tit to home where Roue lived and was killed.
They say they got so it sounds to me like
this is where stuff was dumped. Right, It's not at
a house. It just seems to be like out in
the field somewhere or something like that. So items are
properly highly relevant to the homicide investigation. Now, police were
looking for a douvet cover, a strap, a hard drive
used to record CCTV footage, and the power backup units.

(01:21:27):
So I suspected some of that or all of that.
They say the information did not come from the public,
which suggests to me that one of the three who
were at the house or people who know them have
finally knarked and told cops where to find the stuff.
That has presumably being dumped. So I'm very pleased to
see this. Hopefully it brings them a little bit closer
to being able to close this one down and figure

(01:21:49):
out who did what. Really interesting study into what young
people want I reckon from the TV and the movies
they are watching. So the UCLA has done a study
of kids between the age of tens, between the ages
of ten and twenty four and the mask on what
is it that you want to see on TV when

(01:22:09):
you're watching your shows, you're streaming of your movies or whatever.
They say, Less sex, less, fewer shows about rich people,
and more fantasy as a genre. So apparently sixty four
percent of them, which is a significant majority, do not
want to watch shows about They don't want to watch
shows with sex in them. They want to watch and
romantic relationships, I want any of that nonsense. They want

(01:22:30):
to watch shows about friends and family and acquaintances and
stuff like that. Now I don't know why that is,
but I have a sneaky suspicion that it's because we're
going a little hard on the sex and kind of
weird stuff. Like if you've watched Saltburn, you know what
I mean. That's weird sex right, and Game of Thrones
that's weird and kind of gratuitous, so maybe they're just
reacting to that. Also, they love and the fantasy, So

(01:22:51):
thirty six percent of them say it's their favorite genre.
That's up from sixteen percent last year. And what that
says is that they want to escape from life like
life is grim at the moment. You always see this historically,
when life is grim, people want escapism, and that's what
that's about. Yeah, it's fascinating in Headline's next.

Speaker 4 (01:23:08):
Crunching the numbers and getting the results.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
It's Hither duplicy Ellen with the Business Hour thanks to
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Speaker 4 (01:23:19):
It'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Like Kenny Gray is going to be a US and
ten minutes time Hither. The media going on about Andrew
Bailey is like it's winter, Greg, It's so cringe, No
wonder they're failing. Is that kind of a look. It's
a fair point. I think the problem that the Andrew
Bailey story is a fair story.

Speaker 4 (01:23:54):
To a point.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Right, at some point you go, okay, like how much
more are you gonna ring out of old mate stick?
And the l sign to his forehead like that's really
we're on day wash now seven six whenever, wrapped up.
I don't really know anyway, So there is a little
bit of there is an argument for some restraint on
some things and the proportion, you know, how much how

(01:24:16):
much weight you give things. And I think it's a
fair argument to make that if all you're doing is
serving up trivia in the media all of the time
and kind of hammering a story that everybody's kind of
moved on from and can see that there's nothing left
in it, I'm not sure that it is going to
entice people to come back and consume your products are
more because it's a bit a little bit boring and repetitive.
Twenty three away from seven anyway, Peter Lewis our Asia

(01:24:37):
business corresponds with us right now.

Speaker 13 (01:24:39):
He Peter good evening, Heather, Now, what do you.

Speaker 2 (01:24:41):
Make of the expansion of bricks Well, it's interesting.

Speaker 13 (01:24:46):
I mean the five original countries Brazil, Russia, India, China
and South Africa have been joined now by four you members,
the Egypt, Theopia, Iran and the UAE. Argentina was also
supposed to be a member, but after the it's new
prime minister poured them out because it didn't want to
be part of the same group as Brazil and Saudi

(01:25:07):
Arabia can't make up its mind one way or the
other whether it wants to be in or out. The
original idea of bricks the term was first coined by
a Goldman Sachs economist about three decades ago, was it
was an investment theme. These were five emerging markets that
were all quite exciting and growing fast, and it made

(01:25:28):
a nice investment theme. It was never intended to turn
into a political grouping in the way that it has
now with these countries leaders and finance ministers actually meeting,
and one of the issues I think it has is
that there's not very much agreement between them there. These
are vastly different countries, not all of them get along

(01:25:51):
that well with each other, and they can't particularly agree
on the agenda. But the one thing that Russia wanted
to promote the meeting is to try and find an
alternative payment system that doesn't involve the US dollar. And
the reason for that, of course, is that they've been
cut out of dollar payments because of the sanctions put

(01:26:12):
on Russia by the West, and that was highlighted by
the fact that before the summit, Russia has remind all
of the leaders to bring cash because their credit cards
won't work in Russia. Now, of course, the problem is
if you want an alternative to the dollar, what is
it going to be. There aren't really any other ready

(01:26:32):
alternatives available. The Chinese you are on. President GDP would
love that you are to be an alternative currency, but
first of all, it's not big enough, and secondly it's
not freely convertible into other countries into other currencies, so
that rules that out straight away. Vadimir Putin was trying
to promote a new global payments system, the alternative to Swift,

(01:26:56):
which is the US dollar payment system. But the problem
is gone that not all the countries there want to
have an alternative payment system, and particularly if it's not theirs,
and they don't want themselves to be cut out of
US dollar payments. So really, other than a talking shop,
there's not really very far that this Bricks meeting can go.

(01:27:19):
The other thing that they can't agree on, which is
the other big issue for debate, is who else to
invite to join BRIGS. But again they can't agree on
that either, so it's really sort of become an anti
West club that the whole point of joining it is
to be anti American. But again they're not every country
wants to tread that path either. I mean China talks

(01:27:42):
about a new multipolar world. Well that's code for basically
a world that isn't centered around American dominance and is
centered around Chinese dominance. But countries like India, that's the
last thing they want. So I don't think anything substantial
is going to come out of this.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
So tell me give me your thoughts on Antonio Gutira's
turning up, because I can't quite decide if it is
a bad thing for him to endorse what is essentially
a more like a group creating more division in the world,
or if it's a smart thing for him to just
override those divisions and be there on both sides.

Speaker 13 (01:28:18):
Yeah, it's interesting because it does show that Russia isn't
as isolated as Europe in particular would like it to be,
because you have all these leaders there, you have Antonio
Gutari's and other leaders of multilateral and regional organizations there.
I think from his perspective, he doesn't see it as

(01:28:39):
endorsing Russia or certainly not its stance on Ukraine, but
does seem as supporting what they call now the Global South,
which seems to be this new term for emerging markets.
And obviously he wants to promote economic development in the
global self and he sees himself as being a big
supporter of that, which are I think is why we

(01:29:01):
have his attendance there. But certainly this meeting which is
being held in Russia has got a lot of global attention.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Peter run me really quickly through the implication of the
North Korean troops deploying to Russia, because that feels to
me like quite an escalation.

Speaker 13 (01:29:17):
It is a huge escalation, and for Europe, the EU,
it's a totally unacceptable escalation as well. Now no one's
quite sure just what's going on here, if troops have
actually been sent to the front line, and how many
there's talking maybe up to twelve thousand North Korean troops

(01:29:39):
getting ready to be basically put into Ukraine to try
and take back or to try and take more of
the Dombas region from Ukraine. So this is a major,
major escalation. It certainly crosses all the lines, and the
problem with it, of course is that it involves Asia,
so it has implications for the Asia Civic region. It

(01:30:01):
also begs the question what about China. China has always
said it's totally against any escalation of the situation in
the Ukraine. But China, of course has huge influence over
North Korea. In China is its biggest economic sponsor, and
without China, North Korea's economy will probably completely collapse. So

(01:30:22):
what is China that's been very quiet on this issue
going to say are going to do about it? And
of course we're all waiting to see President chi jing
Ping's response to that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
Fascinating. Peter has always loved talking to you. We'll talk
to you in a week's time. Again, that's Peter Lewis
Asia Business Correspondent. Got another work, Kat, Who is it?
Safarez out for eleven, bowled by sant and a court
by handsome will ow' rourke. I mean, that's a collapse,
isn't it? Because what are they like? Ninety five for six? Oh,
it's just wonderful. It's just do you know what? There

(01:30:52):
are a few things in the world that are better
then beating a team at home, the dominant team who
are playing at home and you come in and they
don't think. I don't think you're going to be that
good and then smash them around. How good here that
the kids are getting their sex scenes from Pornhub. Anything
else is not required. That's from Dean, and I suspect
that you're right that I need to watch that nonsense
anymore on Netflix because they've got it twenty four to

(01:31:13):
seven on the YouTube. Friend of mine the other day
she's got weekids as well, and she was telling me,
I didn't realize this porn usage in this country spikes
at what time of the day, three o'clock. Kids come
home from school straight onto. It isn't that sad, sixteen
away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:31:32):
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Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
FB Heather ninety five for six versus New Zealand is
going to turn into four hundred and ninety seven for
six in a minute. Look, that's the way to approach this.
It's just to have have low expectations because you can
never be disappointed, because all too often we are disappointed
by the black Caps. But somehow I feel like we're
going to through this time thirteen away from Stephen gevn
Gray are UK correspondents with us now even in Gevin.

(01:32:06):
What did you make of King Charles addressing the reparations
hid on at Choggham.

Speaker 28 (01:32:12):
Yes, interesting because this is something that the UK government
has been saying it is not on the agenda to
discuss slavery. So Kirstarmer or the Prime Minister has been
saying we want to look at the current problems and
he lists in their climate change and the rising water
levels which affect so many of the members of the Commonwealth.

(01:32:34):
But yeah, apparently a great deal of anger behind the
doors of those, particularly from the Caribbean countries within the Commonwealth,
who say, look, we really have got to discuss slavery.
It must be on the agenda and of course it
could be very expensive for the UK, which one report
by the University of West Indies suggested that the UK

(01:32:57):
owed more than thirty six trillion New Zealand dollars in
reparations for its role in slavery in fourteen Caribbean countries.
So it's interesting that the King is in his speech
acknowledging that most painful aspects of our past in order
to learn lessons and quote right inequalities that endure. But
that was pretty much as close as he got. We

(01:33:18):
did not get the apology still, which apparently has to
be sanctioned by the government as it is deemed to
be an acceptance of wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
And so, how many of these Commonwealth countries are after
the reparations.

Speaker 28 (01:33:31):
Well, almost all the Caribbean Commonwealth countries, But some of
them are just saying, you know what, it would be
just nice to hear the word we apologize. It would
just be nice to hear that. Others are saying, we
could just do with some help for education, setting up
new schools to teach people about slavery, and others are

(01:33:51):
very keen on the whole amount of money. And certainly
some of those who are leading the countries or want
to be leaders of those countries also very keen on that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:00):
And indeed some of the.

Speaker 28 (01:34:01):
Commonwealth in Africa are suggesting that there should be reparations
as well. So this is a thing that is not
going to go away in this two day summer.

Speaker 2 (01:34:09):
Kate Busche recording some more music. How do you feel
about this? Are you excited or are you terrified of
that voice again.

Speaker 28 (01:34:17):
No, I think it's exciting news. I mean, let's not
get ahead of ourselves. So Kate Bush has just done
a four minute black and white animated video called The
Little Shrew. She has basically directed it and written it
to raise money for children affected by war. And during
an interview she was giving about this animation film, she

(01:34:40):
also said that she is very keen to start working
on new music and has lots of ideas that she
wants to pursue. And she says, and I quote, I'm
really looking forward to getting back into that creative space.
It's been a long time, it sure has. Her last album,
studio album, was in twenty eleven. Kate Bush, of course,
is one of these sort of marmite figures. I think
you love all her I hate her, but she's certainly

(01:35:01):
come up with a new generation of fans in twenty
twenty two with that song Running Up the Hill used
by the Netflix series Stranger Things.

Speaker 4 (01:35:09):
Yeah, do you know what?

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
And I've kind of I am not hating the fact
that the kids are discovering music that we can enjoy
a second time around, are you No?

Speaker 28 (01:35:18):
Although one of my friends who's my age, said his
daughter and said Oh there's this woman. She's like seventy,
she's never had a hit, she's quite poor, and all
of a sudden she's number one with her song running
up that hell And we said, hang on a minute.
First of all, she has had a lot of hit. Secondly,
she's not penniless, and third she is not new to

(01:35:39):
music and seventy.

Speaker 2 (01:35:40):
Oh that's funny. I really appreciate it, Gavin.

Speaker 27 (01:35:42):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:35:43):
Gevin gray are UK corresponded, We'll talk to you again
on Monday. Sticky finger up in the air, got another wicket,
Ravi Eshwin gone for four, one hundred and three for seven.
Do you know Boldham? Well, it was caught, wasn't he?
Or was he bold? Was he bold? Boys don't even know.
I was kind of half watching. I mean I was
listening to Gavin AnyWho. It was Satna who bowled the

(01:36:05):
ball that eventually got him out. However, so Satana's got
four wickets to his name. How good is that? How
good is that? Age away from seven, whether it's.

Speaker 1 (01:36:12):
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Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
USB, LBW that's how he was out, so that Santana's
to claim for himself. Now listen, I meant to tell
you this earlier in the week, and it's six away
from seven. I meant to tell you this earlier in
the week, but I ran out of time. But I
need to tell you before the week is out, because
this is big news and it's bad news. The roading
work on the Brinduwins has killed two frogs. They are

(01:36:43):
not just any frogs. They are very rare frogs, the
hotch Stettter frog, which obviously, I mean, you know about
the frog, and I know about the hotch Stetter frog.
It's a very important frog, very special. I don't I
can't remember why the special, but anyway, where they are.
So what happened is that before the work on the
brinduuins began, the ecologists went there and they counted the

(01:37:07):
hotch Steta frogs that were living there, and there were
one hundred and fifty three hotch Steta frogs. But then
after the road was closed and the work was going
to start and stuff or had started all like whatever,
over a couple of a couple of periods, the ecologists
went back to save the frogs, and they spent a
lot of time saving them frogs. They were therefore three
hundred and twenty seven hours in total trying to find them.

(01:37:28):
But they only found one hundred and fifty live ones
and they found two dead ones and one is missing.
So we've got one fifty live, two dead one mia
no one knows. We could probably count that one dead
because if it's not with the other frogs, the hotch
Steta frog out there by themselves and the Brindurwans is
going to be dead. They think that the reason that
the frogs dying is because they've built a concrete culvert

(01:37:51):
and concrete if you know your science, which you will
because you know the hot Steta frog, it changes the
water acidity because of the concrete, and the frogs don't
really it doesn't work well for the frogs, and they're
not sure that that's what's killed the frogs, but they
think that's what's killed the frogs. So we've lost two.
So yeah, I mean, for all of you people driving

(01:38:11):
across the Brindowins, just think about that. When you just
think about that, when you're driving across and you ask
yourself was it worth it? Because you lost two Frogs.

Speaker 27 (01:38:18):
Hence into Sandman by Metallica to players out tonight. As
we teased yesterday on the show, that is a big
news as well. Metallica is coming to New Zealand. They'll
be performing just the one show at Eden Parks. You've
got plenty of time to save up for it. Well,
not to save up. Actually, the tickets go on sale
in about five days.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
What did I say Yesterday's like.

Speaker 27 (01:38:38):
Oh, they're just coming in a month, and you were
half right. They are coming in November, next November, So
there's a whole year and a month.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
Pay to read the year bit of the end.

Speaker 27 (01:38:46):
Yeah, but make sure you're reading by the tickets.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
Yeah, four fourth of November, I think is when they go.
Is it the fourth of November?

Speaker 27 (01:38:53):
I think there are some fancy pre sales, Yes, some
pre sales.

Speaker 2 (01:38:55):
There's like an Eden Park presale. There's a Live Nation presale.

Speaker 27 (01:38:58):
And all ages as well. Hear this, So you can
take your long trucks some muffs on them and get
them into some you know, some Metallica as well.

Speaker 2 (01:39:04):
We good cool, yeah, and also dedicated into Sandman to
the two hot step of Frogs. See you next.

Speaker 25 (01:39:10):
Week Tuesday, Long we can enjoym

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
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