Full Show Podcast: 28 March 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Digging through the spin spence to find the real story.
Or it's Ryan Bridge on Heather duper c Allen Drive
with One New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Let's get connected and news talks.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
They'd be good. Afternoon seven after four Friday. Simon Watt's
on Wellington Water. What information can the Commerce Commission actually
get out of Wellington Water and will it make a difference?
The editor of The Australian on the election over there
and should we be using their electoral system? The key
We TV show that's off to the bathts. We'll check
in on the King's health over in the UK. Nick

(00:35):
Burley and Andrew Alderson on the Sports Huddle this afternoon too.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Bryan Bridge.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Oh, Chris Hopkins. He's got a bit of a swagger
about him at the moment, doesn't he. He's the walk
of a man feeling pretty confident, feeling pretty good, feeling
pretty happy with himself. Couple of polls showing a few
minor changes, but that is enough to put a bounce
in your step if you're the leader of the opposition
and you usually starved of sunshine like a mushroom, well

(01:03):
he's in full bloom. He's been bashing Winston calling him
the pale version of Trump last week, remember that this
week it was friendly fire with Tamotha Pool's comments. He
called them dumb stupid on the news, and by Hipcken standards,
that is harsh. He's only used that kind of language
on your Luxe AND's your Seamoels and your Winston's before.

(01:24):
And the reason's pretty obvious. He's worried what your average
Kiwi will think about the greens loopy ideas. And guess
what your average Kiwi will think it's loopy. Once you
realize that Labour needs the Greens to get into power,
your coalition of counts doesn't seem so bad after all,
does it. This is damaging for the left block because
it's radical stuff. I mean, the left will love it,

(01:47):
but not the middle. And that's the bit that counts.
Crime is still in your top five concerns. Remember it
was number two for a long time. It's come down
in part because of National's tough stance, and tough the
Green's stance is not now. He may be talking tough
on Tamotha, but Hipkins is not walking the talk. If

(02:09):
he was serious about these ideas being dangerous or insulting
to the police or stupid or dumb or all of
the above. You would imagine he wouldn't want Tamotha Paul
anywhere near the police portfolio if he coalesced with them
into government, right, so you would happily rule them out,
wouldn't you. You'd happily rule out handing over police or

(02:33):
justice to the Greens. Well, we asked him today and
he wouldn't do it. So every time crime is raised
in the House, every time he tries to make a
point on the gangs that Mark Mitchell's not up to
the job, the Nats can rightly turn around and ask
who would do a better one, Tamotha Paul Bridge nine
after four news talks, they'd be nine two the number

(02:55):
text David Semol's here because we're going to talk about
Eden Park. So the ball is in the government's court now.
The council's made its decision. They have ticked the Eden
Park box. They want Eden Park two point one. There's
one hundred million dollars that needs to be funded either
by government or by council. Council has said got no money.

(03:15):
So what does the government say. David Seymour is with us.
He's the act party leader also Associate Minister of Finance.
Good afternoon, Hey Ryan, Yeah, good to have you on
the show. Now I've got the statement from Simeon Brown.
It sounds to me like a polite no thanks to
the one hundred million dollars. Is that about right?

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (03:35):
Look, I mean, first of all, it's all a bit hypothetical.
There's been no formal request and as far as I'm concerned,
no one's put before cabinet. Shall we give one hundred
million dollars to build a stadium in Auckland. I think
if that was to happen, well it'd be up to
the whole cabinet. But you don't have to be an
absolute news hound to understand what's happening in this country.

(03:58):
Everyone's a bit short of money, including the government. We're
doing everything we can to save it. You know, the
other night I was just working late in my office
for Nicoler came in trying to look down the back
of my office couch for a few stare pennies. So
that's kind of the way it is. So it's hard
to imagine putting one hundred million into a stadium.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, I would have thought so. So it's pretty much
a no from you. I mean, if it was put
before you on a proposal in cabinet tomorrow, you, as
an individual, you would vote, know, wouldn't you.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Well, I mean cabinet doesn't vote. It basically discovered and
tries to achieve consensus.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
But your voice, I think one of your voice would
be a positive one.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
Look, I think one of the things I'd be asking
is how are we doing on things like roads and
core infrastructure, water pumping stations and treatment plants and pipes
for new suburbs so there's more homes. How we're doing
on hospitals. Are we happy with the state of our
school proper? We're really under the pump on infrastructure in

(05:03):
this place. And I have to say I was at
eden Park, not at the pleasure of the Eden Park Trust.
Border might add, just to watch the Blues and Crusaders
and not a great game for those of us up
here in the north. But nonetheless I looked out across
eden Park and I looked at the backyards of a

(05:24):
few Sandringham student flats that you can still see, thought
about all the history I looked over and thought about
the terraces that I used to go to as a student,
and One thing that occurred to me is that authenticity
is important. And I'm not really religious, but eden Park
is almost a spiritual place. Amount of hundreds of no

(05:44):
amount of hundreds of millions is going to replicate that
with some Auckland version of the captin which the council
didn't really think was viable.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
It's a very deep answer. I didn't quite expect that
for a Friday afternoon.

Speaker 5 (05:58):
Well, we runs a bit stual in some ways. If
we could get on to Liam Lawson and the severe
and justice visited on the whole country through one high
achieving young man, then we could go even deeper.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Hey, do you think it's odd that this proposal from
eden Park that stage one requires one hundred million dollars
from the government, and then you get to stage two
in stage three, which are the PPP stages. Why can't
the whole thing just be PPP. You know, I don't
really understand that the logic. Have you looked that far
into it or not? Really?

Speaker 5 (06:29):
No, I haven't, because it's a proposal from them that,
as far as I'm aware, they haven't formally put to
the government.

Speaker 7 (06:35):
They have I mean, you'd really.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Have to go to the Minister of Sport. We'd look
at something, but you know, I think I've laid out
where I think most of our government's at. In fact,
all of our government on our priorities in the infrastructure
that people need to live before we build more stadiums.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Appreciate your time, David Seymour, the Associate Finance Minister.

Speaker 8 (06:54):
It is.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
It's a polite no from the government. Fourteen minutes after
four What News Talks HEVB Jason Pine.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Next, it's the Heather Dupers Allen Drive Full Show.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
News Talks ZB. It is sixteen minutes after four. Ryan,
this is on the idea that Chris Hipkins should rule
out working with or having TAMOTHA Paul as his police
or Justice minister. Can you imagine that this person says, run,
what a ridiculous assertion to make the Greens, regardless of
coalition agreements, will not be Minister of Police. That's exactly

(07:32):
the point. It would be so easy for Hipkins to
just say no way, I would never let her near
the police or justice portfolio. I mean, why use all
the strong language and say it's a dumb idea, it's
a stupid idea language he doesn't normally use, and certainly
not something you'd use against, you know, friendly fire. Why
wouldn't you just say it and just say, oh yeah,
I wouldn't let any of that portfolio. That's nuts. Seventeen

(07:55):
after four, ryand Jason Pines with us Week in Sport
hosts Hey Jason, Hey Ryan, good to have you on.
Now it's official about Liam Lawson and a lot of
people today, the talk seems to have been about was
he given enough time in the car. Do you think
he was? No?

Speaker 9 (08:12):
No way, no, no, nowhere close, nowhere close. I'm just
feeding back on myself here, so I'm not quite sure
what that is.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
That's right. We'll come back to you once it's sort
of Jason, no need to worry about that. We'll come
back to Jason Pine in just a few moments, once
we've got the Czech issue sort it. Eighteen minutes. There's
nothing worse than feeding back into your own ear. It's
so hard to concentrate. Eighteen minutes after four, I was reading,
actually speaking of Tamotha Paul. I was reading today the
piece in the Herald, And if you haven't read it,
go and have a read by Roger Partridge from the

(08:45):
New Zealand Initiative. It's a piece on grievance and he
basically makes the point the survey is out, the trust survey,
trust is down, nobody believes in the media, nobody believes
in the government anymore. Society is fragmented, all that kind
of stuff. One of the solutions that he makes to
all of this is that we should have more open,
honest debates, and he says we must protect robust debate,

(09:09):
avoid accusations against those who question orthodoxy, different perspectives, strengthen
our conversation. And I thought, are we unfairly maligning or
you singling out Tamotha Paul and her comments about the police.
Maybe we should be more open to outside ideas. Maybe
that's part of what this is about. He then says,

(09:30):
these ideas must be based in evidence and dignity, and
I think that pretty much rules those out. Nineteen after four,
we'll get back to Jason now, who's on the phone
with us. Jason, youurin welcome back.

Speaker 10 (09:43):
That's oh, thank you right. You're asking about whether it
had enough races. I think the answer is no. He
was put in that seat because he was a good
driver and had plenty of mental resilience. They've given him
two races on unfamiliar tracks, one in the pouring rain
in Melbourne, and you know, for me, it's just too
small a sample size to make an assessment on whether
he can drive properly or not. And we're about to

(10:05):
get to Japan, a track he knows really well, and
they've taken the keys off him. So really poor form
from red Ball. And you know, you won't convince me
that Yuki Sonoda can drive a car that's set up
for Max the staff and any better than Leam Lawson.
Can I stand to be corrected? He might prove me
wrong in Japan next week. But yeah, really poor poor
form from red Ball for me?

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Is it a short term decision? Do you think? Like
are they thinking about the long term? Because there's the
whole issues were the Honda and the car and their
relationship with red Ball going forward?

Speaker 10 (10:39):
Yeah, I mean who knows that. Look, if that's the case,
why didn't they put Sinoda in there from the start?
They were so worried about that. Look, they can't just
chop and change and say okay, well you get a couple,
then we're going to bring Liam back in and then
we'll chop and change in and out. They have to
make a decision one way or the other, and maybe
that's what this is. And Liam will drive in the
racing ball car for the rest of this season and

(11:01):
hopefully do very well. But yeah, just think is very
short sighted. It's another example of the instant gratification kind
of mindset that exists an elite level sport. Nobody's got
any patients anymore. You know, I can't see past the
end of next week, so unfortunately Liam Lawson is the
victim of that at this time.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
The casualty Round seven of surf for rugby this weekend.
Any upsets coming you reckon?

Speaker 10 (11:23):
Well, I don't think the Hurricanes will lose to the
war A Task tonight, even though the war Tars are
in better form. The war to has haven't met the
Hurricanes for ten years. Don't see that changing in Wellington tonight.
I wouldn't imagine the Highlanders will beat the Brumbies later on.
And I really can't see more on the Pacifica getting
up over the Crusaders, although I think most people outside
of christ You would like to see it. So, you know,

(11:44):
it all seems to go pretty much to form across
this weekend. But if the first six rounds of sharnas anything,
it's that upsets can happen. So let's keep our fingers
crossed for more one of pacifica to beat the Crusaders
on Saturday night.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
This sounds good, Jason, Thank you, Jason Pine week in
Sports Sis tomorrow and Sunday from midday two three on
Newstalks EDB. It is twenty one after four. We'll get
to some of your texts next. Plus the rule that
Auckland Council is enforcing. And by enforcing, I mean they've
got people going around the streets measuring people's fences, not
on the sides of their property with their neighbors, but

(12:17):
on the front fence, which has got people really upset.
And I can see why. We'll get to that next.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Getting the facts discarding the fluff.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
It's Ryan Bridge on hither Duplice Ellen drive with one
New Zealand let's get connected news talks EDB.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Four twenty four Ryan. Interesting to note Liam Lawson he
has never received a cent in government or sporting zed
funding and yet he's given New Zealand immense profile overseas.
Interesting when you weigh it up on how that's invested
versus other sports. It's true, it's true. The only thing
I would say about that is I think the purpose
of investment from the government into sports is that it

(12:55):
should encourage lots and lots of people to follow, which
I guess people can be. Young people surely will be,
but not in great numbers, not like you would get
from investing in other sports like rugby or netball or
cricket or something like that. Ryan, he had to go
it's a performance based sport. Being your ruthless but you

(13:18):
have a point too. He has failed to perform. The
sponsors want to return on their investment. I guess the
question is how long do you give your investment before
you just give it the chot and saying, well, it's
been two races, we'll see you later. That's what they've done.
Twenty five after four Bryan Bridge in Auckland and Point Chevalier,
there are people from the council going around with little

(13:38):
clipboards and they are measuring your front fence. I didn't
know about this rule, but you have to. Apparently your
fence can only be one point four meters high. So
there's these three properties. This is the R and D piece.
Three properties in one street that have been issued notices
to chop their fences. The chop half a meter off

(13:58):
their fences point eight meters high. The council says they
can only be one point four meters high. Apparently this
is because they think it's going to make the street safer.
So if you're walking down the street and I don't know,
you're mugged and there's all these tall fences around, then
you don't feel as safe. I honestly, I don't follow

(14:19):
the logic. But anyway, that's that's the logic. That's why
you can't have a high fence to make the community
safer and just make things look a little bit prettier.
But the other day at my place, so I left
the lawn mower on my front lawn and there's a
really low fence on my front lawn and I left
the lawn mower on my front lawn for probably two days.

(14:40):
It's not a great look. But someone my neighborcame a
knocked on the left a note on my door the
other day saying someone was trying to steal your lawnmower.
This isn't broad daylight on Monday, someone came to the
house and was trying to put it in the back
of a people mover. So she yelled out and stopped
this from happening, and then moved my law lawmar for me,

(15:01):
which was very nice. But I said to my partner,
I want to build the world's biggest fence and we're
going to and I don't care what the council says.
I want. I want a US Mexico border sized fence
at the front of my house to protect my lawnmower.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 11 (15:17):
You can just bring the more inside, Ryan.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
Good, bring them more insight. That's another option, another option.
Thanks for that.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Ends puting the challenging questions to the people. At the
heart of the story, it's Ryan Bridge on Hither Duper
c Allen Drive with one New Zealand. Let's get connected
and news talk sa'd be just my song.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
So get afternoon. It's twenty five away from five years talks.
We need to sign and Wat's the local government minister.
After five o'clock on the ComCom looking into Wellington water
and Dennis Shanahan, he's the Australian National Letter over the
Tasman looking at the election. We've got a date now,
thank goodness. But I also want to chat to him
about the fact that it's compuls mandatory to vote in Australia.
Their turnout is ninety percent, which is pretty interesting when

(16:04):
you consider, you know, ours is about what's seventy eighty percent?
But I was thinking in relation to our local government
elections where turnout is so low and you end up
with a couple of student flats in Mount Cook and
Wellington determining the outcome of the election, pecking the mayor,
and look what you end up with, shit on the streets.

Speaker 12 (16:25):
You know.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
So I just wonder whether there is potentially something we
could learn from the Australians when it comes to holding elections.
Nine the number of text by the way, all the
victim blaming that's going on with my lawnmower. So someone
tries to steal my lawnmower. My neighbor intercepts and stops this,
and you guys are texting me saying why did you
leave you lawnmywer on the front lawn. That's what we

(16:49):
call victim blaming. Okay, I am the victim. We blame
the thief. That would be thief.

Speaker 6 (16:56):
Notice you aren't answering the question there right, Okay.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
I don't have to hence I'm the victim twenty four
or five.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
It's the world wires on news dogs. He'd drive.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
So the Australians are heading to the polls on the
third of May. Albow has hit the election date and
he started campaigning straight away.

Speaker 13 (17:14):
In uncertain times, we cannot decide the challenges that we
will face, but we can determine how we respond. Our
government has chosen to face global challenges the Australian way.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
King has canceled some engagements because of the issues worth
his cancer treatment. He had to go to hospital after
some side effects from the treatment, but he's now back
at home, which is good.

Speaker 14 (17:35):
Here's a Royal correspondent, a bump in the road, but
not a disaster. I think that's how they would want
to frame it here. They're very keen to stress that,
you know, it's not ideal, but they don't see it
as a major problem. In terms of his continuing treatment
for cancy.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
We'll check them with Juliet Ryodan after five point thirty
four an update on his condition. Finally, this afternoon, mel
to the Ball Major League Baseball is underway in the
US and Canada. Right now and with the start of
the season, all of the stadiums have unveiled their signature
food options for people attending the games, which sounds like fun.
We should do that here. Yankee Stadium and New York

(18:13):
are serving baseball helmets full of terramasu. You can get
a twenty inch Grand Slam witch at Chase Field in
Arizona and Dodger Stadium in la Is home to the
Slugger a sixteen inch Calipino cheddar sausage with fires and
fries and sauce on top, which sounds delicious.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Dan Mitchison is our US correspondent and he is celebrating
something today. I wonder what they could be, Dan, Happy birthday?

Speaker 8 (18:49):
Well thanks, Ryan, I mean, there's no place I'd rather be.
And you were talking about the baseball food Just down
the road from Los Angeles my hometown San Diego, the
Podres fish tacos, if you can believe it, are the
top seller at the ballgame down there.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
Did they mean who.

Speaker 8 (19:03):
Goes to a ball game to buy fish tacos?

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Did they make them especially or Is it just that
that's the most popular thing. It's just popular.

Speaker 8 (19:11):
If San Diego has known for fish tacos, it's kind
of where the trend started, you know, a couple of
decades ago, and it's just become one of those popular items,
right up there with the hot dogs and the peanuts
and the crackerjack.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
There we go, now, Donald Trump, sorry, I judge has
ordered that Trump's administration should keep signal records amid this
whole controversy about the group chat. So in other words,
if you've seen the signal text, you have to keep it.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (19:36):
And although you and I would think with common sense,
would be easy to access these texts and they wouldn't
be deleted, you have to put everything in writing and
make it understood what is needed to be kept so
it can be filed and used as evidence and one
side or the other can't come back, you know, weeks
or months from now and say, well, we didn't know
we were supposed to keep this. And of course this

(19:57):
has to do with the lawsuit that we've been talking about,
because the cabinet iss were discussing the war plans on
this app And what's interesting, Ryan is the judge, although
he didn't bring this up in this is also the
same one who's presiding over the invocation of war power
case to deport migrants to the president. So he's kind
of got two things on his docket at the moment.

(20:17):
Although the case was assigned to him by chance, and
he wanted to make sure that everybody in the courtroom
knew that that was the case and it wasn't just
that he was kind of ganging up on the president.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Now we've had cuts to the Education Department for the
whole Education department cut, but now ten thousand jobs to
go at the Health Department.

Speaker 8 (20:35):
Yeah, and this is on top of the ten thousand
that had already left or took early retirement that Robert F.
Kennedy Junior has been working on. So this is a
This is a pretty big reduction. It's like a twenty
five percent reduction. And I mean something to think about.
I mean a lot of Democrats are mentioning this. I mean,
who's going to inspect nursing homes, who's going to look
after lead in a lot of these imported toys that

(20:57):
kids put in their mouths? Does this have the makings
of a of a man made disaster? I mean, that's
probably going a little bit too far. I mean, some
of the Democrats were saying that. But is it going
to be a painful pill the swallow? I think in
the healthcare field absolutely if this goes through.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
There's some new stats on how many parents in the
States are financially supporting their adult kids and how much
they pay them. Would love to know.

Speaker 8 (21:19):
Too many, would be my answer as a parent of
two teenagers. This is a report by savings dot com
and parents are doling out about fourteen hundred dollars a
month eighteen hundred dollars a month in some cases for
gen Z and millennials. So you said, well, where's this
money going. They're paying for things like their groceries and
their cell phone bills, and their rent, and their health

(21:40):
insurance and even vacations. And they're seeing that forty seven
to fifty percent of these parents who will let to
sacrifice their future financial plans if it means helping out
their grown up kids. In every financial expert that you
to talk to will or should say the number one
thing you don't want to do is to dip into
your savings, make your college kid take out a loan
of they have to get an extra job. They have

(22:01):
time to make up that extra money. But you are
somebody in their forties, fifties or sixties don't have time
to make up that extra money that you're saving for retiring.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
That is a lot of money. Who pays for their kids,
their adult child's vacation? That's an ourtis Dan, I don't know.

Speaker 15 (22:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (22:17):
Ryoant not mine.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Dan, Thank you for that, and happy birthday. I hope
you have a good one. Dan Mitchison, who's our US correspondent.
It is eighteen minutes away from five. Honestly, my parents
didn't even pay for my vacations when I was at home, littlelone.
When I grew up and became a real adult. Yeah,
does anyone do that for their children? Seriously? Eighteen hundred dollars?

(22:39):
Did you say a fortnight? Eighteen hundred dollars a fortnight
for an adult and you're paying for their cell phone
bills and you're paying for their holidays. No, I wouldn't
be doing that. Eighteen to five Verry sopernext.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Politics was Centrics credit check your customers and get payment certainty.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
Quart it to five News Talks. Here be Barry Soper.
Here this afternoon, Hey Berry, Good afternoon, Ryan, how good,
thank you. Now should we be able to get rid
of and how would we go about getting rid of
a prime minister if they had lost their marbles?

Speaker 6 (23:09):
Well quite easily, really, just hatch a coup and get
rid of them. I'm mean, a caucus can get rid
of the prime minister. But this is research that's been done.
And they looked at four New Zealand prime ministers. They were,
you know, Michael Joseph Savage when he served between thirty

(23:29):
five and forty, Norman Kirk, who of course was the
leader in seventy two to seventy four when he died.
The third was Joseph Ford. Finally, the one that to
me is well, the one that I knew and is
more interesting. They didn't look at ill necessarily ill health.
They looked at his problem with a bottle, and there
was no doubt that Rob Muldoon in his final years

(23:52):
had a significant problem with the bottle. I'll give you
just one example. I remember on the Thursday night before
the poll in the eighty four snap election, which was
known by many as the Snap's election for obvious reasons.
But I said to Muldoon, can I come and interview
you after you've finished your wind up speech here in Auckland,

(24:14):
and he said, ay, come up to my hotel room.
An hour after I finished speaking. Well, I got up
to his hotel room, which was the old South Pacific.
He was slumped in a chair. There was an empty
wine bottle lying on its side, and I gin inflected
in front of him, put the microphone up to his
mouth and said, do you think you've won the election,
Prime Minister? And he went nope. No, he didn't say nap.

(24:38):
He shook his head and I said radio, Prime Minister,
do you think you've won the election? He said nope,
and he went on how he had lost it.

Speaker 16 (24:45):
Well.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
The next morning, at we were going to air with
it that Muldoon had conceded defeat, he held a news
conference at about eight in the morning, denying all knowledge
of it. And I went, well, hang on, I was
sitting in the front row. It's going to weir now,
prime Minister. So you know, that's an example, I guess
of a prime minister being out of control. And that

(25:08):
was just one little vignette of many many instances that
I witnessed with Muldoon in the four years that I
worked in the gallery when he was the Prime Minister.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
In part fascinating story Berry by the way, in part
and what we just had David Seymour on He's yeah,
I love politely saying no, we're not giving you any money.

Speaker 6 (25:31):
Well, you know, one hundred and ten million is going
to cost to I guess put on a retractable roof
and increase the seating and create a pedestrian promenade. Incidentally,
I think the council made exactly the right decision. These
pretty pictures that you can see down on the waterfront
look fantastic, but between that and the realization of seeing

(25:56):
the actual actual structure is going to be much more
than the billion dollars that they were saying it was
going to cost. This is what one hundred million dollars.
Unless they can get good business backing, and they've got
a pretty strong board, the Eden Park Board. They're not
going to get government money in the short term, there's
no doubt about that. But I think the Council have

(26:18):
made the right decision. It was an overwhelming decision, only
two dissenters. I think Eden Park had to be it.
And don't forget that this is going to be Rail
enabled in a very short time. And the biggest criticism
I think of people that go to and from Eden
Park is actually getting from it after an event. You

(26:39):
can pay a lot of money in a taxi to
get a very short distance, but rail hopefully will overcome
that problem. But it's a wonderful venue and we saw
it used what four times in the last week for
big events, and I've been to several concerts there. It's
phenomenal and you know, even the residents are on board,
with the exception of one perhaps Helen Clark.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
You know, it's actually quite interesting how they've turned that around.
They've turned the local residents around, and they clean up
after themselves and they've totally changed the vibe for the
local neighborhood.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
So well, I think that's got a lot to do
with the chief executive thing.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah, now these supermarkets are we are you expecting big
things on Sunday?

Speaker 6 (27:19):
Well, I would have loved to have said, yes, there's
going to be a third player announced on Sunday, because
don't think that we had that investment conference and maybe
somebody was there and they said we would like to
open a supermarket chain in your country. No, they're not
going to announced on Sunday. What you'll see on Sunday
is basically the process that the government will enable to

(27:41):
get a third player into the market here to make
it easier for a third player to start up. And
one can only hope that that happens in the fairly
short term because the duopoly, as we've seen, hasn't worked.
It's not competitive. Prices are too high at the supermarkets,
and a bit of competition is exact what it needs.

Speaker 17 (28:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
Absolutely, as somebody is pointing out, and I didn't want.
But the one hundred million dollars is just for stage one.
That doesn't even get you the wrong that just gets
you the seating of changes. Then the stage two, This
is the PPP that gets you your accommodation. Stage three
under the PPP is the roof. I mean, honestly, oh well,

(28:21):
thank you for that.

Speaker 6 (28:22):
Listener.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
It's from Peter.

Speaker 6 (28:24):
Yeah, got on your pete.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Another one asked, and I actually wondered about this the
other day. We've got one minute, but are you going
to Is Barry going to write a book? I'd love
to read it. I wanted the same thing the other day, Barry.

Speaker 6 (28:35):
Well, yes, I'm in the proceeds.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
There we go.

Speaker 6 (28:38):
So a publisher has approached me about five years ago
of equivocated equivocated to quivocated, and I finally agreed. So
the timetime.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
Future, you'll have to mend your finger before you write
a book. I still right. Well, there you go. You've
got the scoop whoever that was texting, and thank you
for that news talk sep It is nine to.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Five Saturday, the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 18 (29:05):
There's no one in New Zealand that believes Mike Hosking
hasn't had a perm look straight up, and now here's
a couple of things. I've never done anything to myself
based on the very simple premise that once you do
something to yourself, it requires a level of maintenance.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
Are we still talking about here?

Speaker 18 (29:20):
Well no, I've brought them it out to anything, but
I've never done anything to myself in terms of I've
had no botox. A lot of people accuse me of
botox because I'm so good looking. I've never dyed my hair,
and a lot of people accused me of dying the hair,
especially when I was on television. That was just like,
I've never died in my hair, couldn't be bothered. And
I've never had a perm because it couldn't be bothered
doing that either. And I've never had a breast enhancement
because that's just trouble. Basically, what you see is what

(29:42):
you get back. Monday from six am the Mic Hosking
Breakfast with the Rain drove of the last news.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Talk z B. It is six minutes away from five
on Newstalk ZIDB. Someone really should tell Mike that he
needs work. I don't know why he's bragging about not
getting it. Lots of text coming in on on the
Eden Park, lots of texts coming in on Liam Lawson,
and lots of texts for people who are also outraged
about a local council telling you that your fence on

(30:09):
the front of your house can only be so high.
In Auckland it's one point four meters and council has
been going around checking to make sure.

Speaker 16 (30:18):
Ryan.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
We had to spend fifty thousand dollars. This is somebody
else on a chimney problem in Auckland had to spend
fifty thousand dollars to build a fake chimney on a
house where less than half the houses have chimneys on
a street where less than half the houses have chimneys
because the council employee liked chimneys. They threatened us with
court action and one thousand dollars per day fines until
we built it. When we met with the council lawyers,

(30:41):
they scoffed at us and said, usually people who complained
to the council are doctors and lawyers, syspen lots of
people who have had problems with counsel. Never really, if
they say something, you just do it because it's easy.
Who wants to pay for a lawyer and fight all
of that, right, That's just how you deal with something
that It's just gone four minutes away from five after five,

(31:04):
we're going to talk to the editor of the Australian
newspaper over there. Albanezi has set a date finally, it
is going to be maybe the third and he's going
to go to the polls and Dustin is ready for
a fight. They're both ready for a fight. To be fair,
interesting the way that the votes happen over there, the

(31:24):
fact that it's mandatory, the fact that it's compulsory voting
gets you to ninety percent. People say that makes the
politics a lot more a measured over in Australia, and
I wonder whether people actually think that's true. So we'll
talk about that.

Speaker 11 (31:38):
I'm pretty sure you get a sausage sizzle as well,
don't your own. They always talk about their democracy sausage
like at the polling place, they'll do like a sausage
sis le. So I think we'd probably get better out
even if you just did that.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Did a singer. The other thing is the fine for
not voting is actually only twenty dollars, So the fact
that they get ninety percent with a fine of twenty
dollars is pretty increesive and it basically just ingrains it.
And you're from age eighteen, you know you do it once,
you do it for the rest of your life. Maybe

(32:09):
we need to do something like that for our local
body politics. I think we should consider it, least give
it a thought. We'll also talk to the minister about
Wellington water and getting the ComCom involved.

Speaker 15 (32:20):
After five.

Speaker 1 (32:49):
Questions, answers, facts analysis, the drive show you trust for
the full picture. Brian Bridge on hither duplicy Alan Drive
with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 2 (33:01):
They'd be good.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
Venber Across it has been in a few moments seven
after five. Right now, the Government is calling in the
Commerce Commission to help fix Wellington's water issues. Wellington Water
is going to have to report details of its financial
management to the Commerce Commission and the Commission will make
sure that Wellington rate payers aren't getting ripped off. But
how exactly are they going to do that and do

(33:24):
they have the powers? Simon Watts's the local government minister,
Minister good evening, Hi, Ryan, howy good thank you? So
what is the well? First of all, is this just
for Wellington Water or will eventually all water entities get
this attention from the ComCom?

Speaker 19 (33:40):
Well and eventually all water enterities will get this attention.
But we're bringing forward the economic regulation for Wellington Water
because of our concerns with their financial and operational performance,
which have been well documented over the last few weeks
and actually actually over the last few years.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
And what will the ComCom actually be able to ask?
You know, what information can they request?

Speaker 19 (34:03):
Well, the ComCom have a number of powers in regards
to information disclosure. They're also going to be implementing an
imposing economic regulation on Wellington Water and basically what that
means they're going to put belts and braces in regards
to their financial and operational management. Basically ensuring and mitigating
some of the risks that have been identified in the

(34:23):
reports in the past, but get it an effect match
fit for what it needs to be when it transitions
later this year.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Because the big ripoff or the big row from your
ratepayers perspective is the fact that they were purchasing pipes
or contracts that were more expensive than market rate, So
that information is commercially sensitive. Can the ComCom ask for that?

Speaker 19 (34:46):
Well, the ComCom will have a full suite of its powers,
and it does have a wide range of powers. I mean,
the key thing that we've identified and we've been concerned about,
and I've been concerned about and Cabinet have agreed is
that we need to increase public accountability at Wellington Water
now and that is the decision that Cabinet took this week.
We need to increase the amount of transparency on the

(35:09):
performance and the financial management and that is important for
Wellingtonians because they need to see that and that's not
been the case.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
All right, are you worried about any other entities?

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Oh?

Speaker 19 (35:20):
Look, this is the main concern for me at the moment.
You know, I'm watching all councils pretty closely in terms
of their operation and financial performance, and I have no
hesitation to act if we feel like they're not in
the right place.

Speaker 3 (35:32):
Are there any others on your radar?

Speaker 19 (35:34):
Not at this point, but you know we are actively
monitoring that at the moment.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
All right, Minister, appreciate your time. That's Simon Watts, who's
the local government minister. Nine after five Trust the Tasman.
The Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese is called the twenty
twenty five general election that the Aussies officially now heading
to the polls on May the third. Economic concerns, housing costs.
When we talk about this quite a lot on this program.

(35:59):
Just what the issues are over in Australia, you'll be
familiar with them. Dennis Shanahan is the national editor at
The Australian. He's with me tonight. Hi, Dennis, Good day, Ryan.
Great to have you on. So campaigning well underwell, And
I mean it's been underway for a while now, hasn't it.
But what's your sense of where the landscape is at
the moment? Oh?

Speaker 20 (36:19):
Look, I think that and you're right. The campaigning has
been under way for quite a while, that the Prime
Minister really started in January and we haven't stopped. Now
we're what we're getting The message here clearly is that
the campaign's going to be fought over cost of living.
But the outlook is that the polls are showing that

(36:44):
the Prime Minister is likely most likely to lead Labor
into minority government. So that's where we're likely to go.
Because he has a very small majority, there's a bit
of a swing against him. By the same token, the Opposition,
led by Peter Dutton, has to win an enormous number

(37:05):
of seats to try and form government. So at this stage,
at the beginning of the five week campaign, the outlook
is most likely for the return of a minority Labor government.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Which and how much of that is based on some
of the elections were seen at state level. I mean
there were some around Perth and Wisdom Australia and the
Dunton you know, the Liberals not performing as well as
perhaps some might have thought, oh.

Speaker 20 (37:35):
Well, that's true. But of course, unlike New Zealand, we
have state and federal elections and Australian voters can really
distinguish when they go to the polls. Sometimes there are
elections at state and federal level quite close together, and
we will have that is the case in Western Australia

(37:56):
where the Liberals have been basically wiped out in the
last two elections in West Australia and state elections, but
the federal vote can sometimes be quite dramatically different, and
I think that we can't take too much of a
guide from state level elections. We take an overall view,

(38:21):
and I think that when it comes down to it,
Western Australia was extremely important in the last election because
that's where Labor picked up a lot of its seats,
and of course the Liberals lost to the Teel independence
the climate change independence on the East Coast, and that
was really the two deciding factors in the last election.

(38:43):
This election, Labor is hoping to hold on to its
seats in Western Australia but could lose one or two there.
But the real decision, the real battle states are going
to be New South Wales and Victoria because in Victoria
Warria Labor is a bit on the nose and in

(39:05):
New South Wales there's a lot of feeling in some
traditional Labor seats against some of the renewable policies of
the Labor government, not just the costs of energy, but
the actual impact on the electorates of offshore wind farms
and rewiring the nation to provide all of those twenty

(39:29):
millions of meters of wiring to make the transition and
transmission to renewable energy. So yes, there have been signs
that the Liberals were in trouble at the state level,
the same thing in South Australia as well. But what

(39:50):
we are seeing is a national shift to the Liberal
Party since the last election, quite a big shift election
and Labor is still at an historically low level of
primary vote in the polls.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
And Donald Trump not being made about Trump and his
influence on this campaign, or not his influence but his
effect I suppose. And the tariffs that are coming in
and you've had Malcolm Turnbull at play and now Anthony
Alberanezi comparing Dutton to Trump. How's that being received?

Speaker 20 (40:27):
I will look, I think there will obviously be a
Trump impact on the federal election. The tariffs are the
main point. There's no doubt that already the Australians have
seen the likely imposition of tariff's and the next decision
We're getting a few signals from the US that may

(40:48):
not be as bad as initially shown, but in any case,
there is going to be a definite US trade tariff
effect on the election. I think that Anthony Albernese has
not done not too badly given his political differences with
Donald Trump. We certainly haven't done any worse than anyone

(41:11):
else around the world. And look, I think in reality,
while Peter Dutton is probably more akin to Trump's Republican flavor,
it's unlikely that he can do a great deal else.
But the real factor of Trump is on the question
of security. It's on Orcus, It's on the whether he

(41:32):
will commit to the continuing nuclear submarine program, which is huge,
which is part of what he is demanding Australia and
other nations do, and that is increasing their defense spending.
And it's also all about whether the Trump will continue
to stand up in the Pacific against China. And that's

(41:54):
particularly the case after the circumnavigation of Theustralian continent by
the Chinese live firing fleet, which was very unpopular, made
a real impact in Australia. So I think Trump will
have an effect, but you know, overall, its cost of living.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Yeah, it's the local issues. Dennis. Thank you so much
for that analysis. Dennis Shanahan, he's the national editor at
The Australian and canber At sixteen after five, Ryan Bridge,
fascinating stuff. I sort of thought that it was going
more elbows, sorry, more Dutton's way, but that's a really
interesting take. So after six o'clock we're going to talk two,
because this is a tale of two waters. We've spoken

(42:34):
about Wellington water and the problems that they're having. After
six we're going to talk about water care. If you're
in Auckland, your water bill's going to go up seven
point two percent next year, seven point two percent of
the year after that, and then five and a half
percent at a minimum for basically the next ten years
after that. They're tribbling them out there burrowing. What do
you get for it? We'll ask that after sex right

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(44:04):
past five on News Talks. He'd be This is a
real coupe for New Zealand's TV drama The Show After
the Party, has just been nominated for a Bathter TV Award.
In the UK. It stars Robin Malcolm and Scottish actor
Peter Mullins.

Speaker 17 (44:20):
Back in the day, women weren't allowed to talk about anything,
and that's what made us kind of victims.

Speaker 11 (44:24):
A lot of women make false accusations that completely destroy
in us, in men's lives.

Speaker 21 (44:29):
How do you know they're innocent?

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Director and producer Pete Salmon is with us now, welcome
to the show and congratulations.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Oh thanks, yes, amazing.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Yeah. When did you hear about it? How did you
find out? What was your reaction?

Speaker 12 (44:45):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (44:45):
I woke up this morning. I knew that they were
coming in overnight and I just like told myself, don't
because it was going to be like about one in
the morning that I would find out, and don't wake
up because you'll never get back to sleep either way,
going either way. So I woke up in the morning
and the my wife had texted she was she was
working late last night, so she found out first. So yeah, incredible,

(45:08):
So stoked.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
You're nominated in the international category, and it is a
tough It's going to be a very tough field. I've
seen obviously seen your show, but also seen Showgun, which
you're up against. Which have you seen that. I mean,
it's a brilliant show, right.

Speaker 4 (45:25):
I haven't, but yeah, play all accounts. It's incredible. Yeah,
so yeah, I mean just the competition is huge. But
you know, like I think after the Party's stands out
in kind of his own way. You know, it's this
little show, you know, up against something like Showgun, which
is ginormous. You know, so it could go either way,
you know, like Cold There's so many great shows in

(45:47):
that category, and you know, any one of them deserves us.

Speaker 15 (45:50):
It's lovely to be part of that totally.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
Is it? Is it about the winning or is actually
and put it into context for us being nominated in
a category like this at the back the TV Awards
quite a big deal.

Speaker 4 (46:03):
It's huge. It's so huge. It's like, yeah, it's one
of the biggest awards nights of the year.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
You know.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
It's like it's up there with the Oscars, you know,
less well known, I suppose it, but the Baptist sort
of holds like quite a lot of respect internationally within
the industry, and it has so much integrity, you know,
because the projects that sort of go through there are
often a really high standard. So to sort of be
nominated is just out of the amount of shows that

(46:31):
you can watch nowadays is phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Really, the reviews since it dropped in the UK have
been excellent. Is it How successful has it been overseas?
And I guess, how do you know, how do you
syndicate it? How do you tell?

Speaker 4 (46:48):
Yeah? When we sort of get some feedback from Channel four,
who's a broadcaster in the UK, and they, I mean
they just are in love with it. That it was
their second highest drama I think for last year to
broadcast in streaming. Wow, and I think their top top
show for just streaming. So it's the massive achievement what

(47:09):
it's done over there. And just know I didn't get
over there, but there was a lot of people who
just saw billboards everywhere, you know, and seeing Robin's face
all through London as you know for a little Kiwi show.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
I think it's really lovely, you know.

Speaker 4 (47:21):
I think the thing that I find amazing is just
how people watch the whole series through, you know, because
I quite often I just watch it one of things,
you know, and never get past the next one. But
the completion rates have been through the roof, so I
think that is a really good sign that it's doing well.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
You must be doing something right then, Thanks so much,
Thanks so much for congratulations again. Pete Salmon with US,
director and producer of After the Party, which has been
nominated for a baft Of TV Award. Over in the UK,
twenty four minutes half the five News Talk the b.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Checking the point of the story.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
It's Ryan Bridge on the duplicy Ellen Drive with one
New Zealand let's get connected and newstalks, they'd be.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Five twenty seven. So we learned yesterday that we've got
sixty three thousand bureaucrats in the public service right now.
That doesn't include teachers or nurses or anything like that.
It's just bureaucrats, which is if it sounds like a
big number, it is. It's only four percent less than
where National took office, still well above the forty nine

(48:25):
odd thousand we had pre COVID and pre labor, and
the wage bill for a lot of them is now
higher than any year prior. National aggressively attacked Labor for
overseeing a bloated bureaucracy, remember that during the last election,
and on these numbers, aren't they now guilty of the
same crime we had? Judith Collins on the show yesterday

(48:47):
I asked her about this. She says, Oh, look, that
number is ridiculous and it should come down. But art
they actually is gung ho on sacking fourteen thousand people,
as the restoric would make out, I don't think so. Instead,
what they're going to do is take an act to
the reforms that Chris Hopkins passed in twenty twenty, to
these State Services Act. Collins says it's one of the

(49:10):
main reasons that public servants are now drowning, and report
writing and inefficiency and there's too much box ticking and
and too much time wasting on things like well being.
Those are her words. So if you're somebody who wanted
the public service bloat to be liposuctioned out of Wellington,

(49:31):
I think you're out of luck. Nikola Willis told us
last week they're going to cut specific programs in the
budget and work that's not delivering for taxpayers. But if
you were looking for wholesale cuts, I don't think you've
come to the right place. Twenty nine minutes after five
News Talks EB lots more to come, including our sports title,

(49:52):
lots to discuss, I mean Eden Park, Liam Lawson, take
your pick. News Talks emb.

Speaker 12 (50:01):
For them when a juden door.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
After making the news, the newsleakers talk to Ryan first.
It's Ryan Bridge on hither duplicy drive with one New
Zealand let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
They'd be.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Good evening. There's twenty three minutes away from six. You
might remember a couple of weeks ago we told you
about the problems with the Mount Messenger Bypass. This is
north of Tartanaki and some legal problems that the developers
of this DTA had run into. They basically got a permit.
Dad got a permit to inadvertently kill native species like

(50:51):
bat's even keywee for a fauner, you name it, while
clearing vegetation. So if you're not going out and purposely
killing native species to get the road done, but inadvertently
in the process of creating the bypass, these things might happen, right,
So you get a permit for it, and the court,
the High Court in March ruled that that permit was unlawful.

(51:12):
So today the government Conservation Minister Toma Pultucker, he has
come out and said we're going to change the law
so that that work can continue. So whether you're build
because it would have affected potentially loads of projects all
around the country. So the government's come out and said, basically,
we're going to make sure you can keep building your roads,
keep building your houses, and we'll change the lad to
make sure you protect it. It is twenty two to

(51:35):
two six. The King has had a brief stay in
hospital because of side effects from his cancer treatment. He's
been discharged now, but he had to cancel all his
engagements for the day. Juliet Readon is the royal correspondent
with us tonight. Hi, Juliet, Juliet, are you with us?

Speaker 22 (51:56):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Hello, yes, yes, long way to London. Nice to have
you on the program. Now, was this a speed bump
or is this caused for concern?

Speaker 22 (52:06):
Look, the Palace is playing it down. They're saying it's
the most minor bump in the road that in a
road that's very much heading in the right direction. Is
the poetic explanation. But my understanding is that the King
was having his normal cancer treatment in the morning, which
was scheduled and part of his ongoing cancer treatment. He's

(52:27):
been having this treatment ever since he was diagnosed in
February last year. He then started to have these side effects.
The doctors advised that he go to hospital and cancel
the afternoon's engagements. He was seeing three ambassadors from foreign
countries in the afternoon that had to be canceled. He

(52:49):
went to hospital. He had a short period of observation
in hospital and then was discharged and went back to
his home, Clarents House in London. But under doctor's advice
and with an abundance of caution, they suggested that he
cancel the next day of engagements, which is Friday in

(53:11):
the UK, and was a full day in Birmingham, that's
in the Midlands of England, and it was a pretty
full on day. So they've told the King he needs
to rest. There's an expectation of a full schedule next week,
although they may look at each day and you know,
take a few events out or give him a bit

(53:34):
more time if needed. But he's in good form back
at back at Clarence House, he's he's working from his study,
so I don't think it's a huge court course for concern.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
Was he still going to get to Italy because obviously
I only know about this because the Pope was ill
and they were going to take that off, keep the
trip all together. Are they going to continue with it.

Speaker 22 (53:58):
Yeah, my understanding that is definitely still on. The King
and the Queen are still going to Italy. That is
very much in their schedule. Obviously they had hope to
see the Pope and have that historic meeting, but that
can't happen because of the Pope's health.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
This treatment has been going on for a long time.
You mentioned since February last year. Have they given any
wider update on his condition? You know how he is doing.

Speaker 21 (54:25):
Now.

Speaker 22 (54:25):
We've been told that he's doing well and that it's
along road, and we know that he came back to
his almost his full schedule back in Easter last year,
and then of course he came to Australia. I'm actually
based in Sydney. I'm not in London. I know you
recognize that London accent, which is where I'm from, But

(54:48):
I'm based in Sydney. We had him here, him and
the Queen here in October. He was in summer also
and this year is expected a full schedule. So yeah,
it's ongoing treatment. He is not in remission. That cancer
is still there. He's a seventy six year old man.
Cancer treatment is very unpredictable and also very tiring. And

(55:10):
it's a pretty big full time job that he has,
so you know, these are little blips along the way,
I think.

Speaker 3 (55:17):
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Speaker 21 (55:35):
All board in.

Speaker 9 (55:37):
Full steam ahead North America, New Zealand by going to
the Football World Cup.

Speaker 20 (55:44):
Austrategy and purpose is being to demonstrate to the hybrid
multi purpose stadium and definitely bring youth at Eden Park.
It's the only solution for Auckland and New Zealand National Stadium.

Speaker 23 (55:54):
This is not a duty of care, is it, by
any stretch of the imagination getting rid of someone after
two races. A duty of care is to give him
a chance to try and perform a bit better. Put
your arm around his shoulder, talk to him about what's
going wrong.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
Certainly a lot to discuss this week on the Sports Huddle,
News Talks. Edb's Andrew Alison with us tonight Hey, Andrew,
Greeting's Ryan good to have you, and Nick Buley is
with us two News Talks VB Crusaders commentator Nick, welcome
to you. Good a right. So are we confident because
you know Eden Park. Yes, they've got this vote from

(56:27):
Auckland Council, but they are basically now going cap and
hand to council and going cap and hand to government.
It doesn't sound like anyone is forthcoming with much money.

Speaker 24 (56:36):
Andrew, Yeah, it seems a bit anemic, doesn't it. And
I just wonder I was around the carousel we go again,
don't we And it's sort of stadium fatigue at times
when you had that, well that ends it are back
to Key Park down at the waterfront, a bit more inspirational.
But as someone I think said in that council meeting,
it doesn't exist as yet whereas Eden Park does. And

(57:00):
Tim Murphy the Newsroom Course former Herald editor in his
column saying it's experience over hope. So yeah, I guess
we've got to hope this retractable roof tis. My view
is that if you're going to use Eden Park, and
I think this has been referenced by Simeon Brown as
well at times, as you've got to make it multi purpose,
you've got to break down the regulatory structure and bring

(57:21):
in more concerts, etc. To make it pay its way
and allow it to pay its way to the maximum capacity.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Yeah. Well, and clearly no one else is going to
help pay for it, so you've got to do something. Nick,
What about the need? I mean, is there actually right
now any urgent sporting need for us to do anything.

Speaker 21 (57:43):
That's a very good question, Ryan, and I think that's
probably part of the hesitancy at the moment, albeit you know,
that financial issue and the unwillingness from government, central government
or the council to pay for it. But I think
the longer as Andrew alluded to, the longer we kicked

(58:03):
the can down the road, which is the stadium issue,
it's not going to go away and it's not going
to get any cheaper.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
So we need.

Speaker 21 (58:12):
Some some willingness and decisiveness to grab this issue face on,
and at some stage someone's going to have to take
it on Otherwise it's going to as Andrew said, it's
going to go round and around.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
The carousel.

Speaker 21 (58:26):
Issues are going to come up, feasibility studies, proposals, you
name it, and we're still going to be here with
the same issue.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Yeah. Yeah, it's one of those things. A perennial issue
that you would like to be solved, but you just
get the feeling of people.

Speaker 21 (58:38):
I'm lucky down here in christ it's Ryan, where we've
finally got a stadium after well coming up fifteen years
post earthquake, and that's been an ongoing battle in itself.
So I'll tell you what, Just get on with it
would be my advice.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Yeah, and that's coming an on time, on budget too,
isn't it next year?

Speaker 15 (58:52):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Yeah? Well, it's sort of. It's one of those ones.

Speaker 10 (58:55):
Ryan.

Speaker 21 (58:55):
We don't want to preach it too loud because such
has been the nature of the Rebuilder the last decade
in a bit that something might happen last minutes and
it can be over budgets and off time. But yeah,
as things stand, April twenty twenty six to Kaha open,
So I can't wait.

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Don't want to drinx that, do we. Andrew Orders sit
and Nick Bauley on the Sports Huddle for your Friday Night.
We'll be back lots to discuss, including Rob Penny and
those Crusaders and Liam Lawson.

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Speaker 3 (59:27):
Twelve to six Andrew Ordison and Nick Burley on the
sports Huddle tonight. Interesting peace in the Herald today from
Elliot Smith talking about Rob Penny and the Crusaders is Andrew,
do you think he is in fact? Although many thought
he might not be the man to lead the Crusaders
back to a title.

Speaker 24 (59:43):
Well, let's states Ryan is looking promising, isn't it, seeing
it on the table there and up there with the chiefs.

Speaker 16 (59:49):
It's probably not Scott Robertson at the moment. I more
like I think Elliott referencing and more of the.

Speaker 24 (59:53):
Todd Blackhead era at present, solid but not spectacular. But
I think a few more things probably come into us
favor this year, shrinking injury toll, and I think that
it's been a bit more of a natural.

Speaker 16 (01:00:06):
Order, restored a bit more stability there.

Speaker 24 (01:00:08):
I mean, Nick will know more about this, having followed
the Crusaders close and commentating than I would.

Speaker 16 (01:00:12):
But yeah, it just feels like Rob Penny is getting
bit more. Was Mojo back, I'd have to agree with that.

Speaker 21 (01:00:19):
Well, you summar your summation there, orders, but it is
easy to forget last year guys that you know, without
the likes of will Jordan for an entire season down
to their fifth first five only had Cody Taylor, Scott
Barrett's to Mighty Williams, to name a few, for a
handful of games.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
It's pretty hard going. Just ask Blues coach Veron Cotta.

Speaker 21 (01:00:37):
At the moment how that goes when you don't have
some of your front line all Blacks, or the Hurricanes
coach Clark Laidler when you're down to your fifth ranked
first five eights.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
So there was a bit conspiring agains somebody.

Speaker 21 (01:00:46):
I don't think Rob Pennett's all of a sudden has
become a good coach compared to being a bad coach
last year. And look, there's still a couple of areas
which he's acknowledged too, where you know, defensively and that
they need to improve to be back at where they'd
like to be. But there's certainly a scenario where come
June that they're back lifting the silverware. And yet all

(01:01:08):
of a sudden, we're going from a scenario where very
much felt like at the time Rob Keenny was there
as a caretaker coach to a situation where when we
finally get into the Takaha Stadium, he's still the coach
in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Now, speaking of caretakers, poor old Liam Lawson for just
two races. What do you make of this, Andrew? What's
your take on it? And do you think we'll see
him back in the top flight?

Speaker 16 (01:01:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:01:33):
I think we call it.

Speaker 16 (01:01:34):
He's still relatively young twenty three.

Speaker 24 (01:01:37):
I find an absolutely extraordinary story that this can happen.
But I guess if you delve down into it, I
mean it probably raises more questions and answers about whether its.

Speaker 16 (01:01:45):
Driving your bility, is it politics? The pragmatism of it.

Speaker 24 (01:01:49):
If you think about Sunoda coming in in his form
hasn't been that flash either, But if he's coming with
an eight figure sum via Honda as well into the
Red Bull coffers, it's pretty hard to turn it down.

Speaker 16 (01:02:01):
I found the.

Speaker 24 (01:02:02):
Duty of care excuse from Christian Horner. I mean, that's
fifth year satire, isn't it really? When you think protecting
and developing him recording?

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Really come on?

Speaker 16 (01:02:13):
I mean just that was extraordinary, so to use that
as the excuse.

Speaker 24 (01:02:18):
So anyway, I think it's some Yeah, it's gonna be
fascinating to see how that pans out.

Speaker 16 (01:02:22):
I mean, there's been plenty of gone before Awsom the
seat with the likes of Alex.

Speaker 24 (01:02:25):
Albom, Pierre Gasly, Sergio Peris, and Lawson joins their ranks
all bit temporarily.

Speaker 21 (01:02:30):
Yeah, Nick, well look it made me think, Ryan, I
know you're covering Heather for paternity leave. Imagine if they
just gave you two shows and then Jason, when Stanley
came knocking and said, you know, don't come back Monday.
I think we can all sympathize with with Liam, and
I know we're incredibly proud of him here in New Zealand.
But you're even just reading some of the news articles

(01:02:51):
at globally, like even by Red Bull Standards orders mentioned
their pure ghasly.

Speaker 16 (01:02:56):
You know, at least he got twelve races half a season.

Speaker 21 (01:02:58):
You know, it's two and a few things conspiring against
him as well in terms of unfamiliar tracks tracks he
never raced that before racing in the Wheat and Melbourne. Look,
I really hope Liam, and by all accounts from people
whill know them, know him a.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Great deal better than me.

Speaker 21 (01:03:12):
He's got pretty thick skin and he'll take this on
the chin and hopefully he can prove people not wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
At least.

Speaker 21 (01:03:17):
The good thing is he's still in Formula one and
gets to go to a track in Suzuka next week
where he is a bit more comfortable and perhaps he
can make a bit of a statement.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Yeah, I think it says more about red Bull management
than it does about Liam Lawson personally.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Totally.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Now, very quickly, Andrew will come to you on this.
The rowing at twenty thirty two Olympics is going to
be in the Fitzroy River. Now, this is a known
habitat for saltwater crocodiles. How on earth do you do
you concentrate? Do you take this seriously when these crocodiles
in the river.

Speaker 24 (01:03:48):
Well, that's because you're going to have a mic crocodile
dundee machete in your boat, Ryan, as you go down
the course.

Speaker 16 (01:03:54):
I suspect you know that a night this is a knife.
That's sort of style. I love that this is the
favorite story of the week. Actually, this is the plomacy
of the IOC.

Speaker 24 (01:04:03):
You know, Sporting Bodies World Rowing going to issue a
feasibility study now over this.

Speaker 16 (01:04:08):
I mean, I think I'll come up against your current
problems as well.

Speaker 24 (01:04:11):
But it would be probably easy if I just said
I cut the pr and just say we're not going
to race alongside six meters human chompers, thanks very much,
and leave it there.

Speaker 16 (01:04:20):
Go and raise at Tenrith Lakes.

Speaker 5 (01:04:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
I think they might have a lot of fans support
for that move too. Andrew, thanks mate to God to
have you on. Andrew Ordison News Talks AB Sports freader
Nick Buley News Talks Abi Crusader's commentator. That's the sports
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Four to six on News Talks EDB after six. We've
got a lot to discuss if especially if you're in
Auckland and or in the Auckland region and you're paying
your water fees to water Care, just how much water
Care is going to borrow they're going to borrow basically
treble their borrowing over the coming years. What would you
actually get for that? And how much is it going

(01:05:04):
to cost you? We know it's seven point two percent
this year, it'll be seven point two next year. How
much in the years after that, what do you get
for it? We'll ask the Boss Barry sober racts, the
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Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Evening at a six oh seven. Barry Sophis had a
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Will chat to him about that. Shortly byd sales This
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Business correspondent with us on that after six thirty plus
Gavin Grays in the UK right now, the country's largest

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sewerage tunnel is officially bored. Tunnel boring machine that's been
digging Auckland's sixteen kilometers central interceptor broke through this morning.
It comes as Watercare has announced a huge fourteen billion
dollar investment to renew aging and failing pipes over the
next decade. But the question is how much is that
going to cost? Auckland is Jamie Sinclair is Watercare's incoming

(01:06:46):
chief executive. He's with us tonight.

Speaker 7 (01:06:48):
Hello, good even Ryan, Greg to be looking great to be.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
With you too. Now, how much are water bill is
going to go up by in Auckland in the next
year and the next five years, in the next ten years,
do we know?

Speaker 21 (01:07:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:07:00):
Look, Ryan, Well, this is part of our business plan
which we're really excited to release this week, which articulates
all of the investments for thirteen point eight billion dollars
of investment that we're making in water and wastewater infrastructure
across Auckland. And obviously as part of that we are
outlining to Auckland is how we're going to finance that
and from that, and that includes the prices that we
charge for for water and wastewater services. So for next year,

(01:07:25):
that is our ticulators in our business plan, the price
will go up by seven point two percent for for
the wastewater and water tariff charges that we charge to
Auckland customers. It's a similar quantum the following year, and
then it drops to five point five percent for the
for the next couple of years, so.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
We're looking at increases of at least five percent, So
a well ahead of inflation. But what do we get
for that?

Speaker 7 (01:07:51):
Yeah, that's that's right. That what what the plan articulates
at that level of investment. And I think what we've
done is identify what we need to do both renew
and repair and upgrade our aging infrastructure and also allow
for growth. We know that Auckland is growing rapidly the
last five years at one hundred and twenty thousand people

(01:08:11):
came to the city and doubt the size of the
need and that puts pressure obviously on the network. So
we are allowing for that in the business plan, so
that the projects is about a thousand projects included in
our plans and that thirteen point eight billion dollars of investment.
So what auckland Is will be able to see is
a continuation of the service they get with us, but

(01:08:33):
also the will we all replacement?

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Will we get no more pooh in the ocean?

Speaker 7 (01:08:39):
For that, crist Well, thankfully we've Today's a great day
for Auckland, I thinking and for water care with the
breakthrough of the Central Interceptor Tunnel at point Erin and
I highlight that because both it's really a project that
we're really proud of, but it also will dramatically, once

(01:09:00):
we connect all the pieces up, dramatically reduce the number
of overflows that we see into our into our harborst
So we're really proud of that, and that's exactly the
type investment we.

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Need to still a little bit, but not you can't
get rid of it completely. We'll never stop we will
never stop the waste going into the water completely.

Speaker 7 (01:09:20):
Well. Our network is in some parts a combined network,
which means that storm water and waste will to combine
when there's a lot of rain. Our system is designed
like that, but obviously we need to we need to
continue to reduce that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
When you look at the debt that you're having to
take on, I mean, you are trembling your debt levels.
To put that in perspective, it is more than the
debt of all the big four power Gen tailors combined.
Is this risky? I mean? And how expensive to pay back?
And the numbers you've given us for how much we
are going to have to pay each year, presumably haven't
taken into account whether your debt servicing costs might go

(01:09:58):
up rapidly at one point or another.

Speaker 7 (01:10:00):
Yeah, no, we have we' fact we've fected about all
that into our our financial model and you're like that,
you know, it's very you know, by the very definition
of what we're trying to do is we need to
balance that pressure on customers versus the long term financing
that we can access now through the work that was
done through Council and government on the financial separation of

(01:10:21):
water care, which really has enabled this capacity that we've
got now. And look, we are very mindful of the
debt level. We will be managing that very, very carefully
and conservatively. It is I appreciate it, it's a lot,
but we this is what's needed to spread the cost
of that long term and infrastructure investment over generations as

(01:10:42):
opposed to lumping it all on today's open to much
higher charges. So there's that balance that we have to
always have to manage between pressure on customers today versus
making sure that that that the value that is accreted
through those assets is realized over time.

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
Yeah, I think people are going to agree with you
in a funny way, even though you have to pay more.
We look at places like Wellington and you think, well,
I'd rather actually have functioning pipes. What about the housing
developments in the north and the south of the south
of the city right now where you actually can't get
water connections. What needs to happen so that that can
be done.

Speaker 7 (01:11:20):
Yeah, that's the capacity maps and capacity constraints that we've
been published last year, and I think that's a good
example of us being much more open and transparent with
actually what is happening across the city in terms of
those constraints. Because we need to unlock all of that.
That takes time, and what we're doing is articulating and

(01:11:40):
giving developers in particular, but also those who are looking
to build information to make decisions, and we'll be giving
more information around the time scales and the projects that
are need to unlock those capacity constraints. So, look, I
can't foresee a future where there is no capacity issues
across Auckland, but I think what we are doing is
being more open and trench with what we're doing to

(01:12:01):
resolve those and the timelines.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
All right, Jamie, appreciate you coming on the show. Jamie Sinclear,
the incoming water Care chief Executive. It is thirteen minutes
after six on News Talk CB. Coming up next, we
will wrap the political week that was with Barry Soper.

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(01:13:27):
good day.

Speaker 6 (01:13:27):
Again, right, nice to be here. Good late in the evening.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
It certainly is now, Irig your column this morning, great columns.
Loved it. But the only thing that you did at
the end was talk about the cycle ways.

Speaker 6 (01:13:39):
Well, I started with the cycle ways and went back
to them. Yes, because they are you know, the mantra
for the Greens, of course, yeah, and I'm on them
every day.

Speaker 3 (01:13:48):
You're on the cycle ways. Okay, that's all fine and good,
But what you did was basically set up. You're not
saying cycle ways are bad, You're saying that they're not
enforced enough well, and you're opening the door for them.
I thought, oh, you've lost me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:14:03):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:14:05):
The point that I was trying to make clearly I
didn't make it plain enough for you, Ryan, was that,
you know, cycle ways, you do take your life into
your own hands when you when you're on them. And
I've noticed that. I noticed it again today coming in.
I could have been knocked off a couple of times
coming down my cycle way. And but the claim what

(01:14:29):
I was trying to point out, you know, you could
make a claim that you're better off on the road
with cycleways, but the claim that the cops should be
disbanded by Tamotha Paul is out just totally over the.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
Tops, out the gate, and well it's just.

Speaker 6 (01:14:45):
Made the Greens look silly. Not only that it was
Timotha Paul was bad enough, and what she was saying
this week to me was appalling that you know, the
beat cops. I mean, they may be intimidating to some
people if they have got something to hide or they're
running from the police, but in general, cops on the

(01:15:06):
beat are welcomed and they've been on the beat long
before Tamotha Paul was ever thought of. They're on the beat,
taken off now they're back and I think it's a
great thing. But the other thing is, and we've talked
about it this week time and time again, is profit
the dirty word for the Green Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
The two keys they can't get away from police. Profit.

Speaker 6 (01:15:25):
Yeah, and you know, both the co leaders who would
be on over at two hundred grand apiece. So we're
paying around half a million dollars for these two women
to be in Parliament. That's Madam of Davidson and Chloe
Swarbrick both hate the idea that investment investors to this country.
What damn make a profit. We should be a charity.

(01:15:48):
We should be welcoming people in, letting them spend money,
but spend it, not expect anything in return for it.
And similarly with the hospital system, when you've got a
government now says to reduce the waiting lists, we may
have to go private. The point that Christopher Luxen made
was that when you wake up after an operation looking
at the ceiling, you don't really care what wardron where

(01:16:11):
you're at the operation's being done, whether it's private or public.
So if it reduces the waiting list, good thing. But
these private hospitals, according to the Greens, I'm not allowed
to make a profit.

Speaker 3 (01:16:22):
No one's allowed to make a profit.

Speaker 8 (01:16:23):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
Now, the RMA Act, we've got a replacement and at
the outline the blueprint of replacement, but it's going to
take a very long time barrier to get this through.

Speaker 6 (01:16:32):
Oh well, and yeah, god, I mean RMA came in
in nineteen ninety one. It was the work initially of
the law professor who should really as much as I
like Jeffrey Partner and got on very well with him
when he was for a very short time Prime minister,
he was not suited to parliament. I mean he's a

(01:16:54):
law professor. He should have stick stuck to his knitting,
and his knitting in this case was the Resource Management Act.
It was overwritten over I mean this man once wrote
I wrote a manifesto for the Labor Party, then went
on for three hundred and sixty pages. I think the
only person that ever read it was Bill Birch in

(01:17:14):
the National Party.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
Had Erick and Jeffrey Palmer would go on Twitter with
one hundred and sixty characters.

Speaker 6 (01:17:21):
Not very well, that's not as sporte. But you know, honestly,
when you look at this, it's been it's really been
a handbreak on the develop on many developments in New Zealand.
They tried to reform it before the last Labor government
did with a thousand word, a thousand page piece of legislation.
This one has got to be much more simple and

(01:17:44):
cutting out a lot of the crap that people have
to go through to do anything, and I think you'll
find that that will be the end result of this.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Also this week we've had Judith Collins coming out and
sharing crowing about her consultant spend coming down, and she's
done two her credit. I mean that all I had
to do was say the words and the cost has
come right down.

Speaker 8 (01:18:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:18:05):
Well, you know, I certainly government departments have realized and
no uncertain terms. Don't go and employ people when you
can do the job yourself. That's what we pay public
servants to do. And when they want reports, they go
out put it with a private consultancy company and pay
an arm and a league for it. And there's now

(01:18:26):
a big argument over key we Rail and how much
they spent on it. The Ombudsman Boshia on the first instance,
he said no, it didn't have to be released the
cost of consultancy on the key we Rall Ferry project.
But now he's reversed his decision and they're fighting it
in the courts. Well, you know, the public have a

(01:18:49):
right to know, in my view, how much the public
service is spending on consultants on the very work that
they should be capable of doing themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
Big weekend this week well, we've got the supermarkets on
Sunday announcement and we've got the ferries on Monday. Yeah,
so lots wonderful lot to look forward to next week, Barry.
We'll see then. Cheers, Barry, Thank you. Barry Soper, Senior
political correspondent here at News Talk ZB twenty three minutes
after six on your Friday evening. When we come back.
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Speaker 3 (01:19:43):
Six six on News Talk ZB after six thirty we'll
get to the BYD update. It's a pretty significant milestone
for the Chinese EV and hybrid market. A manufacturer rather
are also the Ainz ed Roy Morgan consumer confidence survey
out today fell four points to nine three point to
trending up. But boy, it's hard work, isn't it? When

(01:20:03):
that's the second one we've had this week now, this
Dunedin business. So the ad campaign for Dunedin en Z
was put out this week, earlier this week and has
been pulled already. What is it Friday afternoon been pulled
already and the reason is quite simple that it included
people playing touch rugby on the beach and they were

(01:20:24):
within meters of a giant seal. Now, obviously you can't
get close to seal. I mean it's trying to encourage
you to experience Denin's wildlife. But there were obviously some
advocates saying not that close, not that close. You would
think there'll be some kind of check before it went published,
but apparently not. It went and down it's been pulled

(01:20:48):
twenty seven after six News talk z'b were to Peter
Lewis in Asia.

Speaker 12 (01:20:52):
Next so lucky.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Whether it's macro microbe or just playing economics. It's all
on the business hours with Ryan Bridge and theirs. Insurance
and investments, grow your wealth, protect your future.

Speaker 2 (01:21:16):
These talksad be Devin Gray out of the Union.

Speaker 4 (01:21:21):
To have.

Speaker 2 (01:21:23):
The AWAD.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
Twenty five away from the seven, Gavin Gray out of
the UK just before seven. I'm sure, we'll get an
update from him on the King's condition, how he's doing,
how he's coping, how it's affecting him. Also, did you
see today Madam and Davidson was calling out the government
over not turning up to this meeting. So there's a
couple of housing groups in Auckland they call a meeting

(01:21:47):
about homelessness, and they actually invited a whole bunch of people.
They invited National and Act and labor anyone. Anyway, no
one went except for Madam and Davidson, and she made
the point why.

Speaker 17 (01:21:59):
Are they not Why are there local MPs not here
in or from Woockland. Why are they not here seeing
the beauty and the solutions at community organizations, COPAPA, MARDI
organizations have to offer them.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
I thought they cared Now I don't have a problem
with politicians making hey while the sun shines, which is
what Madame and Davidson was clearly doing there. The only
problem I had with Madame and Davidson doing this is
that she was the minister responsible for homelessness and she
utterly failed. It got worse. Same with domestic violence. Useless

(01:22:36):
Useless in fact didn't turn up. Not only would she
not turn up to meeting. She didn't even book any Remember,
they released her her ministerial diary and it was so
bereefed of entries you would barely call it a diary,
barely constituted one. So I will I find that slightly amusing.
I also find it. I would find it difficult. I
think if I was one of the MP's she was

(01:22:57):
lecturing to be lectured by by her on homelessness of
all issues. Twenty four away from seven Peter Lewis, who's that?
Asia Business correspondent Peter Good Evening? These things are either
good evening, Peter Good to have you on the show.
Let's start with byd because anywhere you go in New

(01:23:19):
Zealand you will see one of these cars. And their
sales have now reached a bit of a milestone one
hundred billion dollars for the first time.

Speaker 26 (01:23:28):
Yes exactly, sales top one hundred billion dollars. Not only
is that a nice round number, but it's also significant
because they've now leaped frog Tesla, which is suffering a
bit of a backlash at the moment because of Elon
Musk's role in the in the Trump administration. Now the
Tesla only makes electric cars, but you know, if you

(01:23:49):
take bhyd's evs, they're about the same number now as Tesla.
If you include China by BYD's hybrid cars, which are
very popular in China, It's sold a record four point
three million vehicles globally in twenty twenty four. Now, the
reason for this, a lot of people will say, well,
there's a lot of shenanigans going on, lots of state

(01:24:11):
support for Chinese EV manufacturers, which has been true. But nevertheless,
the BYD car product and Chinese EB makers in general,
their product is absolutely superb. If you ever sit in
aside one of these cars, sometimes you feel like you're
not in the motor vehicle, you're in a time machine.
They've got all the latest gadgets in it. And in fact,

(01:24:33):
you know BYD is putting in its latest models, all
its latest features, like for example, at that tree that
charges in five minutes and gives you about five hundred
kilometer range, so almost as quick as just filling up
your car with petrol. It's got all the latest AI features.
It's got a feature called Godsei, which is like a

(01:24:55):
sort of a semi automated driving system. And this car
the latest model that it's just released at the weekend
only costs sixteen and a half thousand US dollars. So
when you hear of Donald Trump putting tariffs on cars
into the US, you can only think that, actually, all

(01:25:17):
it's going to do is make it worse for the
US car industry. Not only is it going to push
up prices, but the US has lost the battle already
with the Chinese makers for electric vehicles. It lost the
battle a long time ago for smaller vehicles because they're
imported firms like South Korea's Kia Motors and he On Dai.

(01:25:40):
Really where it makes its money is in large gas
guzzlers and pickup trucks, which are hardly the future of
the auto industry.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
Yeah, and these terrorists, I mean I know that something
that they're going to be the savior, but also many people,
including some working for those very companies, don't. Now, let's
talk about these subsidies in China. This is fascinating. So
they already have quite a large subsidy program over in China,
but they're looking at extending these to some leisure areas,

(01:26:13):
that's right.

Speaker 26 (01:26:13):
I mean, they're trading program which they introduced about a
year or so ago, was to try and boost spending,
to get the consumers who open their wallets and spend
and boost the economy. So you could trade in mobile phones, cars,
other gadgets for a new product at a good price
within a certain period of time. So trade in your

(01:26:34):
old fear you they're now talking about including services in
that they're talking about travel, tourism, sports, again to try
and get people to spend, because consumption is still nowhere
near the level it needs to be, and there's certainly
nowhere near consumer spending the sort of levels that you

(01:26:55):
see in other economies. In the US, for example, it's
about seventy five percent of GDP. In China it's only
about forty percent, so lots of room to expand consumer spending.
The problem and the reason why they're struggling, it's just
a lack of confidence in the economy at the moment.
Amongst Chinese households, they're worried about losing their jobs. You've

(01:27:20):
had employment is close to a record high over twenty percent.
That there's no real social support scheme if you lose
your job or if you get sick, so people rather
save their money than spend it. So this is the
ongoing battle that China has to try and get households
to spend more, not just on goods now, but also

(01:27:41):
on services as well.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
Fascinating Now, Pete, he'd sif he'd be happy to be
out of the States at the moment after the whole
signal scandal, and he's hitting to your neck of the woods.
He's hitting to the Indo Pacific as they call it,
but we would probably refer to it as Asia, and
Tokyo is on the list.

Speaker 26 (01:28:00):
Right, is in the Philippines at the moment. He's going
to Tokyo this weekend. This is coming at a very
difficult time in US Japanese relations, firstly because the US
has slapped tariffs on Japan on its auto vehicles, and
it was hoping to get some exemptions from that because

(01:28:20):
actually Japanese tariffs are lower than US tariffs when it
comes to auto's but they haven't obviously succeeded. They spent
a lot of time trying to lobby Donald Trump Prime
Minister Shiga Wins over to Washington. None of that appears
to have worked. And now this visit by Pete hege

(01:28:41):
Haig said, is coming when Donald Trump has questioned the
security arrangements between the US and Japan. Now he says
that the US is obliged to support Japan and defend Japan,
but Japan's not obliged to defend it back. And he says,
you know, on Earth and makes these deals. What the

(01:29:02):
answer is, it's the US that makes those deals, because
it was the US who imposed the pacifist claus in
the Constitution after the Second World War. Dwight Eisenhower further
expanded that in the nineteen sixties. So Japan traditionally has
had a very pacifist approach. It doesn't spend much money

(01:29:24):
on defense, doesn't have nuclear weapons. But it sounds like
Donald Trump is going to shake up all of this,
just like he's shaking up the relationship with the EU
and with Canada and expecting some sort of trade deal
and some sort of deal that's going to get Japan
to spend more money on its own defense.

Speaker 3 (01:29:44):
I suppose that was an inevitable thing to happen. I
just hope he doesn't shake until it breaks, you know,
like he hasn't some other areas of the world. Appreciate
your time as always. Peter Lewis, who's our Asia business correspondent,
always enjoy our Chats on a Friday seventeen. It's away
from seven. We'll go to the UK next with Gavin Gray, everything.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
From SMEs to the big corporates, The Business Hour with
Ryan Bridge and Lairs, Insurance and Investments, Screw your Wealth,
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Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
Fourteen Away from seven. Big one day concert on this
weekend in Auckland Symphony. It's called apparently it is the
biggest in New Zealand. Now forty thousand people expected to go.
It's at the Domain in Auckland and very very popular,
very very popular amongst a certain age group thirty five
pluses who they target, and that age group proves to

(01:30:39):
be quite consistent with its ticket purchasing. They're not as
affected by the I mean, because I suppose you're not
going to a million concerts over a summer period, which
you're eighteen to twenty two year olds might be. If
you're thirty five plus, you're probably only going to one
in the year, maybe if you're lucky, if you can
get a babysitter for the kids. So anyway, that is
on this weekend. People will be enjoying themselves, no doubt.

(01:31:01):
Thirteen Away from seven, Ryan Kevin Gray's out a UK
correspondent with us now given good evening to you hi
there are Now we've got lots of messages of support
pouring and for King Charles.

Speaker 25 (01:31:14):
Yes, quite a shock that to find out that he's
canceled today's engagements. He was due to have four different
engagements in Birmingham in the Midlands. They have been canceled
because of what are being called side effects from cancer treatment.
And obviously we know that the diagnosis for the King
for his cancer came back in February of last year,

(01:31:35):
and we knew that he was being treated for cancer,
and the specifics have been kept pretty vague. But the
seventy six year old had gone by car, not ambulance
to the hospital and I think there's a general feeling
of playing this down. They just believe it was being
very careful with his symptoms and the doctors suggested that

(01:31:56):
he on an otherwise good upward trajectory of recovery. He
has had this brief setback and it's just not worth
the risk of him going to Birmingham and that he
should rest. It's said that he's back at his house
in London, Clarence House, near Buckingham Palace and is undertaking
sort of state papers reading those making calls from his study.

(01:32:17):
But yes, we do know that that tour today has
been canceled. We're being told that his tour to Italy,
due to take place early next month is still down
to go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
Well, good to have that update, givin thank you for that. Now,
over in the EU, they've put out a list of
items that you will need and how long you'll need
to be self sufficient if there's a disaster. But interesting,
it's not just a natural disaster. There's military but also
cyber and techs are mentioned. Given.

Speaker 25 (01:32:47):
Yes, so this came from the Crisis Preparedness and Crisis
Management Commissioner for the European Union and it makes them
start reading suggesting that in the twenty seven nation block,
the four hundred and fifty million people there should stockpile
three days worth of food, water, and other essentials in

(01:33:08):
case of a crisis. More than that, she's actually saying
the EU itself should build up a strategic reserve and
stockpile other critical resources, including firefighting planes, medical equipment and
assets against chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear threats. It all
sounds extremely depressing and worrying. And it's certainly making the

(01:33:31):
headlines here. Individuals advised to stockpile food, water, torches, identity papers,
medicine and shortwave radios. The Commissioner has basically saying that
it's not just fear of Russia and fear of war,
it's cyber attacks, climate change and disease. And the fear

(01:33:51):
is that these threats are getting more and more complex,
that they may be all interconnected, and that people in
Europe should get themselves ready. It is certainly a very
very dark period in terms of fears across the European
Union and the deed around the world.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
Well, you can take solace in a nice Easter egg
for Easter, but they might cost you a little bit
more given.

Speaker 25 (01:34:12):
You could take solace at Easter egg if you could
afford one, because according to a price watchdog group here
in the UK called Which, prices have risen by as
much as fifty percent compared to last year.

Speaker 12 (01:34:25):
Now.

Speaker 25 (01:34:25):
I don't know if you've been out shopping for your
Easter egg yet, run but the price of chocolate has
risen by sixteen and a half percent, so almost a
fifth outpacing an overall four point four percent increase in
the cost of supermarket food and drink. Why has chocolate
risen so much, Well, it is quite simply because of
the growing conditions. The global price of coco has risen

(01:34:48):
sharply in the last three years, reaching a record high
in January this year. The crops from West Africa in particular,
one of the world's main cocoa producing areas, really hit
hard by unusually dry web in recent years, and where
some multiple manufacturers have tried to absorb the prices. It's
now thought that in order to maintain quality, prices have

(01:35:08):
to rise. But not just the prices of eggs risen.
There is often a combined what we call shrink flation.
In other words, the eggs way less or are smaller
than the previous year, and yet are still being charged
a little bit more. Go check out those prices in
New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
Run Yeah we have actually, Gavin. Thank you for that.
Kevin Gray, a UK correspondent nine minutes away from seven.
If you are interested, this is from New World. Cabaret
cream eggs forty grams two dollars twenty nine each. I
can remember when they were dollar, but that was years ago.
Lind Gold milk bunny one hundred grams nine to ninety
nine Cabriy dairy milk marshmallow eggs one hundred and fifty

(01:35:48):
grams six dollars thirty nine each.

Speaker 20 (01:35:53):
Each.

Speaker 3 (01:35:54):
That is expensive, isn't it? If you can remember what
they were last year? Let us know, But who really can.
It's eight minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
News Talks VB. It is five minutes away from seven now.
Normally I don't read nice texts because I think it's
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reads out nice things people are saying about them, it's like, oh, shush,
but I will Today from Miles, Miles says Ryan, really
enjoying your shows and opinions. You are knowledgeable and sightful

(01:36:31):
and make intelligent statements. I'm sorry I've been wrong. I
always thought you were a bit of an idiot. Thanks, Miles.
Do you know the secret source here? As Miles, I
am ah. That made me laugh. Right, it's Friday. What
are we going out to? Ants?

Speaker 11 (01:36:51):
Are We're going out with an absolute banger today? Ryan, Because,
as you mentioned in the last Break Symphony Festival, is
happening in Auckland over the weekend. It's happening in the
Auckland Domain tomorrow. There it is yes Basement Jack Romeo
to play us out tonight Basement Jack's. I mean you
could say they're headlining because they're playing last. They'll be

(01:37:12):
playing at ten pm, but I think most people are
probably going for the orchestra playing all the darks things,
so it'll be happening at eighty music right.

Speaker 6 (01:37:19):
Through the day though from two thirty though.

Speaker 3 (01:37:20):
Should be good, very much looking forward to going to this. Miles.
This is dedicated to you this evening, thanks to your
lovely message, and have a fantastic week and everyone see
you on Mondays.

Speaker 4 (01:38:03):
You can.

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You know we can make mine.

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You used to be my money really.

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