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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Find your one.
Speaker 3 (00:04):
Of the kind rich pickings for the Huddle today. David
Farres with us Kievi blog Polster. Hi David and Stuart Nash,
former Labor Party ministers here too.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Hey Stuart, how are you mate?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Well, I'm well, thank you. Good to have you guys.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
On.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Let's start with Winston sacking Phil Stuart had to happen, right.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Well, it kind of did, right.
Speaker 5 (00:24):
I mean, your Phil Goff's a form of minister fore
he gets this game.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
But you know the world has changed. You know, you've
got it. You've got Zelenski going in the White House
and getting getting a new arsehole ripped. The world has changed.
You've just got to be very, very careful what you
say these days.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
Phil would have known that Winston is one of the
best foreign ministers I think we've ever had, and highly
respected globally.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I don't think he had a choice.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, it's the stakes are too high, David.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Look, I mean Trump could read this and stick a
three five percent tariff on.
Speaker 6 (00:55):
New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Off.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I mean, this is how foreign policy is now.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Bake the trouble with Phil GoF how I feel but
sorry for is he's a former politician, and he was
asking as a politician, not as a diplomat. A professional
diplomat would never have asked a question like that.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
But he did actually say that.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
He was identified himself as Zeale High Commissioner, so you
know he I think he might have known what he
was doing. But Phil's passionate about life, you know, especially
about everything, and I just think working himself.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
David, to your point, should we be appointing former politicians
to be diplomats only in.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Very rare cases certain times. The one exception is probably Washington.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
D C.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Because there are former politicians of real status outside there.
I think your best to generally stick with the professional elements.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah, we could have done with one today, I think,
And and I guess everyone now is on notice, every
diplomat around the world, be very careful what you say
about Donald Trump, because the bar is very low for
being fired. Stuart Beow screening. The age has been lowered
for everyone from sixty to fifty eight, but it means
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that the funding has come from a targeted program that
was meant that those over fifty who are Maloria PACIFICA
could get it. Now the net effect means that we
save one hundred and seventy eight extra lives, So is
that not a better use of funding.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Look, I read this with a little bit of skeptics.
The reason I say that is we know that Marion
Pacifica end up with bell cancer's far more prevalently than
the rest of New Zealand. There are times, and there
are places where you've got to have targeted interventions, and
I think this is one of those times. I think
this is pure politics, and I don't think it's particularly good.
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I don't think it's particularly smart, and I think it'll
disadvantage our poor communities, of which Mary in Pacifica are
overrepresented in these stats.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
David how does agree here Marian and Pacifica are over represented,
but not because there's some genetic shape which makes them
sospihetical bow cancer.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
It's because there's other factors that work there. And the
current age of sixty, people can actually get screening before
sixty if there's clinical reasons.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
I'm actually having one and.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
A few weeks because there's clinical reasons.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
So you only use things like races of proxy if
you have no individual data, and we do have individual
at the end of the day.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
I think if a.
Speaker 7 (03:34):
Fifty seven year old non Mari Pacifica gets bow cancer
and finds out he could have been prevented, but he
was the wrong race. Because you don't screen Europeans at
fifty seven agents and.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
We do others.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
You should only use race as a proxy when there's
no other.
Speaker 7 (03:54):
Data available.
Speaker 8 (03:55):
Yeah, I tend to agree, because the other thing is
if there's constuart, if there was a predisposition, if you're
a Malia Pacifica, you're predisposed to contracting bow cancer, then yes,
but then you would be on the list where you
would be able to get it.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Specially done right. So look, yeah, the blanket thing maybe
a right.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Using race purely as a proxy is not a good
way to make policy.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
I completely buy into that.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
And there are mitigating factors, you know, diet, exercise, all
those things that we know about. But I just think
we need to deal with the reality of the situation
we find ourselves, and that as Marian Pacifica over represented
and those who end up with bell cancer over.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Other New Zealands, is there is a the data.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Does provide a case for screening targeted populations earlier than
the general population, And I think this is one of
those cases where we actually where the data does actually
back up Marian Pacifica at fifteen and the rest of us.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
But you must accept then, don't you have to accept
that there will be an end Ian man or a
Chinese woman who will die because they couldn't get the
funding because you packed one race over another.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Well it's a very very tricky argument.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
So what we're saying now is if you are marrying
Pacifica and you are under the age of fifty eight,
you will not get the funding for this.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Now there will inevitably.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Be marrying Pacifica men who will die, all women who
will die because they didn't screen before the age of
fifty eight.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Look, this is a really really triquent.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
What I would have done is actually I would have
dropped the screening down to fifty four. Everyone in Australia,
I think it's forty five. We know that screening works.
And when you talk about a blood test on your
kitchen table, I had one done for this exact same
thing a couple of weeks ago. The test came back
within about eight hours. But it does work, and I
think encouraging people to get these sorts of tests is
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really important taking it up to fifty eight for married
in PACIFICA.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I just think you'll see more marin PACIFICA die that didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
David, do you have any final thoughts on this.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Earlier is the hit of courses with everything there is
a funding one, but I think at the end of
the day you can get screen before sixty or fifty
eight based on clinical factors and that's how it should be.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
All Right, David Farrett and Stuart Nash are on the huddle.
We're back in a second, plenty more to discuss. We've
got a comment from Phil twyfe at about Destiny Church
another one and also Greg Forhan where's he going? What's
he doing? Did you know? By the way, just a
fun fact before we go to the break, what was
his salary at Walmart before he went to Air New
Zealand versus what is his salary now he's gone? He
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went down, took a haircut from nineteen million down to
one point eight. News talks there, b you're on the
huddle with David Farrer and Stuart Nash. Welcome back, guys.
So Greg Foruran is out skis from in New Zealand.
We've had a lot it feels like there's been a
lot this week. We've had Phil Goff being fired, Greg
Furan is out, Adrianara is out. I don't really know
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what to say. Who do Who did the best job?
David Old Greg.
Speaker 7 (07:05):
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
It's easier than In fact, they've heard the joke that
he's going to become reserved bank govern a Green high
commissioner to Luod, what do you reckons to it.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
I'm a big fan of Big Friend. I think he's
done a fantastic job. You know, this is not a
man who needed the money he turned up. The week
he turned up, we closed down the country and he's
stuck around. He doesn't need the money. The sealerate will
mute actually wasn't nineteen million. The salary was about one million,
but all his bonuses and.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Options yes, sorry.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
No no, But what I mean is he gets that
for being successful. He is one of these kiwis that
has really excelled on the world stage.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I think we were very, very lucky to have him.
I disagreed with the av agent expert that you had
before the huddle.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
I think Grigg's done a good job. There are many
things outside of his control that means he's been tearing
his tear out.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I mean Rolls, Royce Engines, bloody hell.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
You wouldn't have thought, I mean you're not. You know,
they don't look like or sound like cheap ones.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
You know they don't. And current clubs, I mean I
fly more than most.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
I mean I've been flying up and down this country
every week for about fifteen sixteen years. Current clubs are
in great condition. The service I get is absolutely fantastic.
It's expensive, but if you book ahead you can actually
get some really good fears.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I think Greg's done a good job and I wish
him the best.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
David with it when it comes to Adrian or do
you think that his he will work in New Zealand
or do you think you'll go overseas?
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I think you would find it difficult to work in
you them, partly because after you've been Reserve Bank governor
there's not a lot of roles left.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
But also his men that did leave quite a few bruises.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
On people, so I don't think to be as many
opportunities as otherwise. He can well end up though, just
being a professional director, maybe gain on.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Some financial boards etcca.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
He was to be there from a very very good
chief at Tech of New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Super fun.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Yes he was. He was this public facing role perhaps
not so suited.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah, well, David, maybe you should be the High Commissions
to London, because I think that was the most diplomatic
answer I have heard about aident's performance. I think he would.
You know, he is a very very smart man, but
I do not think that this role suited his temper
or his personality.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
And yeah, somebody somebody said maybe there's a job going
at Otaga University with.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
No.
Speaker 5 (09:33):
I don't think Ryme would want him anywhere in there
and anywhere in the South Island.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Very good, all right? Just before we go, actually, Phil
Tryph has come out and said about Destiny Church, the
Man Up program. He's worried about the fact that the
courts are still sending people to this program. David. It
has been shown to have some success, but there's obviously
the whole problem with the protesting and people's opinions of
Destiny Church. What do you reckon?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I'm sorry, the hypocripshy Phil government, which set may have
been and also people to get rehabilitated by the mongrel
bob drug addicts off to the bug.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
I don't think Stewart was probably a fan of that.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
No, no, look, I didn't buy into that program in
any way, shape or form, but but I would I
think sending people with Disney get rehabilitated there, there's like
sending people of the Mungle Mob rehabilitated. But I'm not now,
with all respect to Brian Tomak, I'm not seducing.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Don't sue me. I'm not seducing you like the Mungo Mob.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
But I just do not think this is an organization
that the police should be sending troubled used to.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
All right, very I love that. The hypocrisy. It's like
today today I heard Tory Farno calling for Nick Leggett
to resign. I thought, what if we come to what
a weird such a weird week, We're hopefully we're all
still here by the end of it. That is David
Farah Kivy blog and Polter and Stewart Nash, former Labor
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Party minister, on the Huddle.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
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