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Marcus talks a bit about the Superbowl, and asks whether there's anything to gain or lose from joining the Commonwealth of Australia.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Night's podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
A'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Welcome to Monday evening a Marcus head or twelve o'clock.
And I hope it's good where you are. I hope
it's as good as it is here, because it's great here.
Oh eight hundred and eighty. Let's just cover off the
super Bowl because I have had a chance to talk
for me one about It's three things for me at
the super Bowl. The jeans, Kendrick Lamar's Jean's interesting bootcut,
those like a flair. Oh wow, thought Bold Gene liked them,

(00:37):
like the cut. That was weird, I thought g So
I enjoyed the halftime. I think there was I might
have got this wrong. I think it was one of
the Williams sisters performing. Was there to do one see that?
So I wouldn't mind fact checking that one. Also I
saw that. I thought that's one of the Williams sisters,
which was weird. We're not weird, but unexpected because she's

(01:00):
a tennis player and then she's performing with the rapper
and the other thing. Also, now it seems to me
that no one's commented on this, and normally we are
pretty quick to claim anyone that's ours. But I assume
that Jordan, my latter who was so strong for the

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winning team, I'm pretty sure he's a New Zealand citizen.
Now no one's mentioned that. I know they've made a
song and dance about him being an Aussie or from Australia,
and he had the Samoan flag. But I'm almost certain
to the fact check I've been doing quite quickly thanks
to Wikipedia, that he's a New Hidian citizen and not

(01:46):
in Australia. That's my understanding of that. So if you
got some information about that, I wouldn't mind just covering that.
I thought the game was It was all right, but
what happened in that game, because it's alternate kind of
possessions and position goes for a long time. Once kind
of halftime came, it seemed to be a lead that
was unassailable with the tush push. We like that.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
I don't know what other comment ship to make about
the Super Bowl, but yeah, I watched most of it
and I thought, yeah, wow. And of course they wind
down the clock at the evening and much would have
liked that, would they? But yeah, it was a good performance.
I mean it shows that if you've got the right
people up front, cheepers, they shut down the quarterback. I

(02:34):
like the way they say in the pocket. In the pocket.
I'm not entirely sure what that means. We didn't have
an English teacher explained the rules to us a long
long time ago. And yeah, that's about what I'll do.
I'll do it once a year and I'll watched that.
I think, yeah, what do you think about that? And
I'll watch again next year. Also because it was like

(03:00):
the hype. I like the halftime, like the I don't
know what I liked, kind of like the number of
people of employees, the whole offices of people, kind of
with codes and all those codes written on the arm.
Pretty interesting anyway. So you've got some comments or some
details about that. That was interesting, feel free to get through.

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Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine to nine
two to text, Yeah, go figure. I think it was
Serena Williams anyway, But yes, no one's made the song
and dance that he was a kid. I guess that's

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the first kick. Oh no, there was a key were
Oh I don't know if there's the first key to
get super Bowl, but some of them wouldn't mind. I
wouldn't mind have so in fact checked that for me.
I do get in touch market still, but if there
is breaking news ween now and twelve, I'll keep you
updated with that. If there's things that happen around the world,
you'll know about them here. We'll be first cab of
the rank. We will let you know. I'll do my
damnedest to bring the information to you, whether that be

(04:04):
the sorts of stories happen time of night, which tend
to be quakes or fires, or whale strandings or shark
sidings or wallabies beyond the natural road arrange or trouble
on the roads. If that happens, you'll hear about it here.
I can promise you that. So get in touch. Oh
eight hundred eighty ten eightyan nine two nine two detext.

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I rely on you people, as being the audience at
this time of night. I think it's really important that
we get the details of stuff to people anyway. So
that's my take on the Super Bowl, the end of
the three peat never quite sure and news anyway, we

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always called it gridad. No one ever seems to refer
to as that anymore. Anywhere anyhow. Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty nine two nine two deticts you want to
be a part of it. Oh the other question, I
tend not to like to ask a lot of questions.
I'm sure I might save that questions a little bit later,
because it's a goodie. What's with rowing?

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Though?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
What's with rowing is a sport that people would go
back to school for an extra year just so like
a compete in the Marty Cup. I've watched rowing from
time to time. I've thought, Wow, goodness, it's never that
interesting to watch. I don't know it's that much more
interesting to do, but cheap as creepers. You go back

(05:33):
for an extra year at school to do that? Maybe
something is a next rowing? And tell me what the
joy is. I guess you get in the sweet spot
when the crew goes well, and you must be part
of some greater thing. Is that what it's like to row?
Or you just get hooked on the early mornings? Wouldn't
my nan say, I've never got no understanding about rowing.

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That was staggered by that the people would go back
for an extra year to get in touch. My name
is Marcus, Christina says Marcus to be the most boring
and worst Super Bowl halftime. I thought it was pretty good.
I thought it was pretty good. I don't know who

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the choreographer was. Clearly it wasn't the key with woman,
otherwise we would have heard. But yeah, I thought it
was Samuel L. Jackson was there. I'm pretty sure one
of the Williams sisters was there. But you know, it's
fairy hype the halftime, and I think from a staging
point of view, it must be fairy hard getting everything
on and getting it all sorted out and getting it off.

(06:37):
I wouldn't mind watching a documentary behind the putting on
of the halftime show. What is all those things they
do and how they make that happen. Yeah, I mean
it must be incredibly challenging as a performer to put
all that together for fifteen minutes, a huge amount of rehearsal,
to get that and work that out for that very
short time with so much could go wrong. And I

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presume they do it they do it live. I'm not
positive about that anyway. Christine didn't like it. By the way,
I'm stilling a lot of tech and emails from people
about Sky and their connection. I see even Lori Mains

(07:17):
was not happy about it, but a lot of emails
from that. Now people are seeing me Facebook posts from
Sky New Zealand complaints, so we run there. There's a
bit of a thread. If you've got some more information
about that, let me know. One hundred and eighty ten

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eighty nine nine to de text get in touch Marcus
till twelve. Where are we with us halftime super Bowl?
I wouldn't mind one or two calls a butt super
Bowl just quickly. Great day to kind of great time
to sort of kick off February the super Bowl, I've
always thought. But you can't separate the half and the

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ads were good. I guess the seal ad was good.
One with Takeaway Titty. I saw that one. I actually
saw that one kind of before that was on. But
Sky also the discussion there tonight also eight hundred and
eighty eight and nine text. By the way, I'll tell
you what Easter eggs slow to me in the supermarkets.

(08:23):
People are like, oh, jee you so soon, but I've
noticed that they're actually quite slow to get them out
this year. One of that's a problem with the supply
chain or problem with Cadbury or what's going on there anyway,
fifteen past eight eight and the Marty Cup. What's that
about kids going back for like second year seventh to
compete cheap Chris Marcus, Welcome and good evening.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
Are you talking to Chris?

Speaker 7 (08:51):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Is that you?

Speaker 7 (08:53):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yes, that's me. Well last time I look at mine
did care?

Speaker 6 (08:56):
It was hey, Mardy Cup? My my son roade for
Wencome College. Yes, he was a he was aff for
a sprightly wee fellow, so he was he was calling
the tune for them to row on.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yes, he went to Marty twice. And I can really
understand why those kids go back, and I guess.

Speaker 6 (09:15):
There's four or five reasons. So firstly, it's such a
professional part of sport. The men and women who are
the coaches and the managers passionate, believe in what they're doing.
So they get learned from a very early age to
get up at five o'clock in the morning, go to
wherever they're rowing. And I'm Wellington, so going from where
they're rowing from, whether it's in town or out for Tony,

(09:39):
they're doing all this rowing. Then they go up to
the competitions up in Cambridge.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
They do some local stuff. They might go to New
Plymouth and then there's the Marty Cup and there is
such an environment of positive leadership, camaraderie, competitive behavior, representing
their schools and all that, so I can absolutely understand
how those kids who just want a little bit more

(10:05):
can get involved. Second one being is, let's think about it,
seventeen and a half year old's going to university. They
don't really know what the hell's going on. What's the
matter with going back for another year to an environment
that they feel really safe at living at home? And
the third one is there's some pretty good looking young
ladies that participate in this activity, so you know, let's

(10:25):
not discount that side of it as well.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
You think they should have updone the band, all right?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
So I done the band, upturn.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
The fact that the second your seventh can't go.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
No, I think they should, and I think that they should. Well, firstly,
I think it's all about the best athlete. I think
that's the starting point. So if they've got someone just
like the all wreck anything that we do, any kid
that has the ability to get in the team should
be the one that might go ahead someone who was
there last year.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
If even if they because you know that you know
the year fourteen people have been banned, don't you.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
No, thank you for that's the whole discussion. Chris, Chris
with that, Christopher good to the ladies. Comment eighty Tonedy,
Sarah Marcus welcome.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yes, Hello, Hi Sarah.

Speaker 8 (11:20):
Hi, I'm just calling in about being by the Sky connection.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Oh you will. How's it going for you?

Speaker 8 (11:29):
Not great? It hasn't been going since we've got the
white box, Like I mean, he's consistently working well as
non existent. When we received the white box about seven
months a day. Even when we tried to what's the
word connected, we were having problems right from the word go.

(11:49):
I do think this is a major topic, and I
know I can't. We can't be the only ones. And
I did it on the radio just about ten minutes ago.
I thought, yay, somebody's raising this is shoe to be.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Fear of raised issue about three times and people are appalled. Right,
No one's getting service. Sky have put out their servicing
to Downer. They haven't got enough texts. And also too
because it's a satellite, right, Yes, the satellite's collapsing, falling
to the ground. But most people, I think now get
this Sky on the Internet, so it's a technology that's

(12:25):
kind of done its dash, so they do so they
don't really care about it. That's that's my gut feeling
that rather people get their TV on the internet through Skygo,
So I think I think almost, I think almost they're
deliberately providing a bad service so people like you and
Laurie Mans give up on it and just get it
through the internet.

Speaker 9 (12:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (12:47):
Absolutely, And yet we pay, we pay a very good
monthly fee for the sky and it's not a good
service at all, and any credits back at all.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
And you've probably played that for twenty five years. That
money's sad. Yeah, it's probably about. You've probably paid about
thirty grand and they won't even come and fix it.

Speaker 8 (13:11):
It's good, right, Well, I will share this. We had
the technician come about two to three weeks ago and
when he saw our white box, he said, I'm removing
the white box. He said, I might get sacked for this,
but he was since with the white boxes. Then he
said nothing but call out through fix the white box.

(13:32):
And he gave us the black box and I'm going
to be which is the old system, and we have
not had any problems with it since.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
Yeah, Okay, well you've done that. Yeah, okay, so you
haven't got a complain. You haven't got a complaint because
it's sorted.

Speaker 8 (13:47):
Yep, because they gave us the old box that we
are used to.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Okay, brilliant, there we go, are we Clara?

Speaker 6 (13:55):
Oh wait?

Speaker 3 (13:55):
One hundred and eighty and nineteen nine to the text,
still looking for the super Bowl call. Maybe people didn't
like the halftime because they didn't have the sing along
songs so much. You want to know their back cannon,
would you? Marcus? Rowing is the summer gigs to start
and spring and runs to Marty Cup in the summer,

(14:15):
so qualifying and train seventh form and come back to
finish the season. Marcus, I'm an ex super Bowl fan
for the festivities that not many participate from down Under.
But I didn't watch the Super Bowl way too busy
at work. And I've been to my homes fans in
twenty eighteen and I've been to two Super Bowls. I

(14:36):
love ANFL. It's like chess, so many different plays, very
complex playbooks are rarely with heaps and well, I'm sad
the chiefsdn't make history. I think it's Tim Kelsey plays
football instead of swift. Oh, for goodness sake, listen to
you people, get a life twenty one past eight. I

(14:56):
is a thought, and I'll just put this out there
said without opinion or comment. Trump seems hell bent on
making Canada the fifty first state. Well that's what it
keeps going on about. Anyway. I think hell bent is

(15:22):
probably the wrong expression. I guess it all depends on
how the numbers go for the midterms. Things aren't looking good,
you'd want to get that sorted out. However, just from
me to you as a question, is anyone out there

(15:45):
thinking it would be a good idea for New Zealand
to become part of Australia. I don't necessarily think it
would be a bad thing. I'm not advocating it, but

(16:07):
I'm certainly up for the discussion. I would imagine what
most people would focus on would be sport. But we
could still play sport. We'd still have the NRL, we
still have the basketball, we'd still have the Phoenix because
they are all in Australian competitions, and we just would

(16:27):
have the rugby tests. We can still go ahead with
those in the cricket anyway. So yeah, just I don't
think anyone would have the political wherewithal to give it
a go to cond bue the I'm sure there's probably
huge advantages economies of scale. I'm sure it would boost

(16:51):
our economy. They seem to be going gangbusters. We could
tag along with them. So yeah, I don't want to
sound cowardly about this, but I don't have a problem
with it. But I think most people's opposition would be
from a sporting point of view, and let's face it,

(17:13):
more to life than sport. I don't actually know what
the advantages would be. Hopefully would make our economy bigger.
It'd probably make our groceries cheaper, it would probably make
our cost of living better. I don't know what the
downside is. Maybe the fact they wouldn't want us. I

(17:40):
don't necessarily know that that's true. We always get on
quite well. We love to hate them and hate to
love them, but they are our mate. So you might
want to comment on that couple of lines. They're free
if you want to talk about that. Should we become
part of Australia, have a reason. I can't think of
the bad thing for it. I mean, be a long
way between here and Perth, but that's not going to change.

(18:02):
Is it different time zones. It can't work out what
the bad side of it would be.

Speaker 6 (18:12):
Pete Marcus, welcome, yay Marcus, here you go.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Peat ten out of ten the scene.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
What do you got?

Speaker 10 (18:19):
I reckon one hundred sent to support you're doing. Why
wouldn't Why would you not want to be part of
a part of Australia. We will become another state of
his when they get around naming it. Somehow. We're struggling
in New Zealand. They got all the minerals, they got
what we want, we got water and we've got good
farming practicing stuff here. It's a no brainer.

Speaker 11 (18:43):
It's a no brainer.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
It's interesting. Hey, I thought you and I'm surprised that
no one's put that as part of their political portfolio
when the campaign, because I don't think anyone hares. Are
you aware of it?

Speaker 10 (18:59):
No, No, I haven't heard of the name. I'll be
saying this for the last ten years. You know, we
can still play sport. It can be another state of Australia,
so we can still compete another state of Australia.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
All upside, all upside, no downside.

Speaker 10 (19:16):
Yeah, what we're struggling like, Hellen is in on we
are the economy is so much more better, So why
struggle in life that you can get a better life
in the return for something that's going to get to
your advantage.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
And it all seems a bit desperate now, is just
trying to court digital nomads whatever they are. I sound
like a desert tribe getting them to come and work here.
I mean it just looks like, yeah, last chance saloon.

Speaker 12 (19:42):
You think of it.

Speaker 10 (19:43):
Years ago, like I sus going back about forty odd
years ago. Now starting to show me age but now,
but there was no difference in wages. I used to
work out a syin fuels then building the gas to
petrol plant. You know, I was weroling and that out there,
and the wages were the same. There was no difference.

(20:06):
You tree me going to Australia to work rights a
versa because our wages were pretty much the same.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Now now now you get thirty percent more over there,
it's thirty percent cheaper live.

Speaker 11 (20:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (20:18):
So since I said, Boddy, no brainer market Marcus before
a referend tomorrow, I do it.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
It's a no brainer, no brainer, no brainer. It's a
no brainer. Twenty seven to nine. My name is Marcus.
Welcome to join Aussie Most people ecstatic about it. No
one's this is not my This is not the cross
I want to die on as the joining Ustra. I'm
just the message you with this one. I love Australia

(20:46):
though mine is. Nothing stopped me going there, is that
I go there fairly often. Go there, go walk about,
enjoy it. Gun the guy that's for heading to next
Bob Bob.

Speaker 11 (20:59):
Bob, big good evening, Marcus, lovely love your programmers. It's
great to listen to you. And oh I reckon to
be us Australia, another state of Australia. It's really a
no brainer. But it'll never happen because our Polly's over here.
Who wants to just become a senator rather than an
MP or a prime minister. And yet, going back to

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was in the eighteen thirties, New South Wales governed New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Didn't they Yes, for a while, there's certainly they did.

Speaker 11 (21:31):
So it's on the statutes that we could become a state.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
And we just do it through a referendum. That's what
we'd start. We'd start getting on that whatever referendum then
we'd vote in favor of it. As the economy tanks,
and then of course the politians couldn't do anything about it.

Speaker 11 (21:47):
And then the assis when you say when new tank,
the ousis to say, don't go away, we don't want you.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Oh no, but we could. They love Queenstown, they love
coming here and things like that. Without a passport we
could make We could seduce them by saying, ease of travel,
no passport's over, you come, well, one license, one passport,
you know, make get quite. I don't know what the
answer is.

Speaker 11 (22:08):
They can do that now, they can do that now,
but the economy is scale. You know, they got twenty
five million, we got five They give us thirty million people.
We become a fairly significant organization of the bonder of
South Pacific. Any downside, yeah, we'd have to give away
a nuclear free policy, wouldn't We.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
Would also probably save a fortune on them on military
as well, because you know, now we're now we're supposed
to spend a lot more of our GDP on the
military as we cozy up with orcers and things like that.
It's going to cost us billions. So there'd probably be
advantages with that as well. And we can look up
with the Cook Islands.

Speaker 11 (22:45):
And well, look as what's happening. I mean, I mean
we I guess you know. Trump sorry said you've got
to pay two percent of.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
GDP it was three. But yeah, and whether.

Speaker 11 (22:56):
We do we couldn't do it immediately, but we we.
I'm an ex service person, spent thirty years, thirty five
years in the military, and even I mean, we've always
been a blooding nation. I mean when the Navy used
to have rum and uny free Tobacca. What we could
buy for our for our personal ships the Navy that

(23:16):
the government could never afford?

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Will you will you Navy?

Speaker 11 (23:23):
Yepland fifties to nineties. I was in the Navy the
best time, wouldn't we get send six ships to sea
at a time. Can't do that now?

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Brilliant. Nice to hear from you, Bob, Thank you for
your service. Twenty two to nine. My name is Marcus. Welcome, Welcome, welcome.
Oh everyone's afair of the referendum. Someone says, no JS
t on VGs. Has they got jeers that think they've

(23:55):
got VET or something, haven't they?

Speaker 13 (23:59):
Sir?

Speaker 3 (23:59):
No way, we become part of Australia's in and forever.
Coming from an immigrant loocause a lot of the migrants
will come to use in only is a chance to
get into Australia. That seems to work for them. You
might want to comment about that. Oh, should we join?

(24:19):
Shall we just become part of Australia? My name is
Marcus Welcome head on midnight? Would we be a separate state?
Would it be two states of North Island and the
South Island? But yeah, get in touch of you and
talk about that, Marcus till twelve joining Australia. Advantages and disadvantages. Yeah,

(24:44):
I am watching the I am watching the cricket grant
and the tron thinks for that, Marcus. Just a bit
of intel. Black Caps South Africa live on YouTube. You're
pretty easy to find two two six two for three
five overs left South Africa bedding. Helen. Hello, copy that, Helen.

(25:07):
It's Marcus Welcome.

Speaker 14 (25:08):
Yeah, can you hear me?

Speaker 8 (25:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Gotcha?

Speaker 14 (25:10):
A great. Well, the downside might be minds all over
the place.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yes, then what they need to mind here when Australia
is so much more mineral proficient?

Speaker 14 (25:23):
Oh, I'm sure they could get their little myts on
what's underneath the ground here? Yes, and I understand that.
Now I can't give you this exactly. So something I
heard about Shane Jones wanting to relax the requirements for
the mining to be so fastidious about cleaning up after

(25:48):
the Act. I heard that today was yesterday, and I
didn't like the sound of that. So somebody knows more
about that, But like that they want the coal mines
will all open up, and since the libtium was something
under the graves of the ground here, there's quite a
lot of mineral rich things and they will just mine
and mine and mine. Look what's happening with Australia.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
There appears to be nothing stopping that here at the
moment anyway.

Speaker 14 (26:14):
Yeah, but I mean, well I don't know. But but
you know, if we became a state of Australia, I
think we would lose all our sovereignty over it. Was
that the right word autonomy?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
You know.

Speaker 14 (26:28):
I just think that the mining would increase and it
wouldn't be a very pretty picture for your point.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
For your point, hell, I might save it. Might think, well,
we'll keep Australia, keep the Australian Island for mining because
it's more there, will save us for kind of.

Speaker 15 (26:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
I hardly even thought about it, to be fair, it's
up for the discussion, good or bad combining. I don't
know how Trump's going to go with Canada. I don't
think the Canada Canadian is going to like it much.
I think all the aluminium goes to all the Canadian
aluminium goes to America, and he's put a twenty five
percent tariff on that. So yeah, that's going to really

(27:08):
affect And I don't know how it's going to affect
the tea way element. You know, I don't know how
much you ours goes to America, Marcus. With Australia means
all the benefits the economy without the snake spiders. Another
creepy Crawley's win Win Win Num more arguments about Pavlova
and crowded House. Never partaken in those arguments, or Russell Crowe.

(27:31):
That was the other one people go on and on about,
don't they. We just say Australasia is it a is
it a continent?

Speaker 2 (27:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Fourteen to nine, Marcus or twelve will keep you updated
with the news when I see it. If there's anything
happening around the world, you'll be first to know. But
help me out with that. If you're finding stuff that's
important be in touch. Bit of a back topic with
sky Laurie Mains got seven technicians or they probably seven
technicians that never turned up. He felt pretty bad. He's

(28:07):
to coach the all Blacks police in India. Stop ed
Shearing's in prompt you street concert? Good on them always
popping up, hastling some busker, isn't he old?

Speaker 16 (28:19):
Ed?

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Oh look they're singing my song? Mind if I jump
in here? Oohs be crazy. They're always trying to get
a viral kind of a thing going on, aren't they.
I'm sure they plant the buskers to sing the songs.
If you missed the Super Bowl, pretty good. There was

(28:46):
one way traffic, but halftime was pretty interesting. Serena Williams.
She was performing doing the crib walk. Yeah. Kendrick Lamar
had a pretty interesting pair of jeans he was wearing.
And one of the players for the winning side appears
to be a New Zealander, although identifies as an Australian

(29:08):
summer and with both those flags, we couldn't a wookie
pteries and use it in citizen and I guess an
Australian citizen. I'm not quite sure how that were an
American citizen. I guess too. I guess that's the way
it's got to go. But we're talking about if you
Zia should become part of Australia. No one's opposed to it.
I guess when things go bad for us, we all
want to become part of Australia. You've got to look

(29:31):
at the flip side there. When things are going great
guns for us that maybe we wouldn't want to be
a part of it. The trouble is the way things
are going, you can't see us kind of. I don't
know if you can see the corner been turned and
use it in becoming a great power again. I'm sure
these must be secled and these things must happen. I'm
not quite sure what says that's gonna what means that's

(29:52):
gonna happen? Matt's rung. He says that, Oh no, I
don't understand that. Actually, what has Matt said?

Speaker 14 (30:02):
No?

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Get if we did join Australia, all come to Perth.
Flight as eight hours not the longest domestic flight because
Boston to Honolulu takes twelve getting touch one name as

(30:28):
Marcus welcome, oh eight hundred and eighty Teddy nineteen nine
text hit til midnight tonight. If there's anything else you'd
want to mention, also the Mardi Cup and what is
the draw of rowing that people would want to go
back for another year. I guess you just do the

(30:51):
first term, then you drop out. I guess that's the
way it works. Marcus. We would lose our per capita
bragging rights at the Olympics. I'm sure we could still
compete separately. I'm sure there's some ways for that to happen.

(31:21):
Seven away from nine high, Peter, it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 17 (31:25):
Oh yeah, Marcus. Firstly, just didn't want to talk about sky.
But I just had my sky taken out. I had
no picture for three weeks. They sent a technician out
and in the end I just said, look, just take
it out.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
Take the damn thing, take it, take it, get it
off the take it.

Speaker 15 (31:44):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Good on.

Speaker 17 (31:45):
Here I was paid one hundred bucks from nothing exactly.
But anyway, with Australia, I am married in Australian and
we used to go over there two or three times
a year and we never had any border issues. We
never had issues at all. And here we both got
quite sick and the treatment I had cost me one

(32:10):
hundred k Had I been in Australia, it was free.
Someone told me that some years ago we were under
the umbrella of Australia as far as the pharmaceuticals go,
and someone in the wisdom decided that, hey, look we'll

(32:31):
go away and do it ourselves and form farm AC. Now,
whether that's true or not, I don't know, but the
guy was in the pharmacy industry, so I think there's yeah,
as far as medically goes, I think basically would be
a lot better off.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Just to clarify, you got sick in Australia and they
charged you one hundred grand for your kia.

Speaker 17 (32:56):
No, and I got sick here I thought had I
been an Australian citizen was free and my wife also
got I'm very sick and that costs me a lot
of money. She was an Australian citizen, but she's too
sick to go back, so you know. And we've lived
in New Zealand all our lives, or all my life

(33:18):
and most of her life. But I just think there's
a lot of pluses to join Australia.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Any negatives you can think.

Speaker 17 (33:30):
Of, No, really, look, the Australians rubb me up the
wrong way sometimes, but that's life. No, I can't really
think of any negatives, and I think for New Zealand

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to survive, we're going to be can't become part of Australia.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
I'm surprised it's not talked about more. Sorry, I'm surprised
it's not talked about more.

Speaker 17 (34:04):
Oh, I don't think. I don't think any government's going
to have a goal to, you know, to changes.

Speaker 3 (34:14):
You might be right, Why should they because the people wanted,
I guess, and it's all for no one's been opposed
to with this. I'll find out what's happening to the
next hour, Peter. But look good to have your thoughts raised, Marcus.
If we join Australia, would be be positive with join
Australia is that we A big positive with join Australia

(34:34):
is that we'd have a cable network that would work
in Foxtowl. Would we be Ossy North and Ossi South
like Palmerston here it would be Ossy West. Wouldn't we
East West? East? Ozzy East? We would be but coming

(34:59):
Australian I don't think so. Trish and shouty capitals. I
think it'll be triggering for some trigger alert, big trigger alert.
Nice to be here. Thank you for joining me for
the nine to ten o'clock hour. How are you welcome,

(35:22):
Marcus till twelve. I hope it's good. We you are
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Australia. If we join them,
will that be got or a bad thing? Will that
be the end of the beginning or the beginning of
the end? I mean, surprisingly, people are quite into it.
I kind of always feel a little bit shaky about that,
but yeah, there you go. Feels like a bit of

(35:45):
a hail Mary pass to me. You know, it's like, oh, well,
we can run this country down because we can always
just join Australia. And the fact that people are so
into it worries me slightly because it does the thing
that means must be things must be quite bad here
at the moment of people think I go, I reckon.
Probably in better times, say goodness, gracious, no. So we
are talking about that sky also, sky sky is always

(36:08):
a topic. They shouldn't call it sky, they should call
it land because the whole sky bit of it in
the sky that's not good, because the satellite's plummeting and
the white box, no good and you're supposed to get
on the internet. Surprised how good the old I'm surprised

(36:32):
how good sky Go works. I was Bush today and
managed to watch it just on the cell phone. I
think I need a bigger cell phone. I like one
of those ones that folds out the two of them. Anyway,
But yeah, it does work. I don't even know what
you call that. The internet, Internet TV seems to work
quite well. That is the discussion. And also, Marty, what's

(36:56):
with rowing? Where people want to go to school for
another year to do it? Because you look at rowing
from the outside it looks pretty uninteresting and there's not
that much after you can't well, well you could probably
row for a few years, but it's not like I
don't know, but people seem to get compelled by it,

(37:18):
don't they. I guess the trouble with rowing once you start,
you've got to know you're going to become a big unit,
don't you. Otherwise if you're tired, you're going to be
no good at it? Is that right? Anyway? Keep those
texts going through. Also, why not join with China? They

(37:39):
can provide military and economic support. Well that's a good idea.
Why the heck with the Australians while I was in
the first place. What's a good point too. I don't
know the answer there. I think they feel paternalistic towards us, Marcus.

(38:01):
I have an idea. You know how the police have
number plate recognition? Would it work? All new cars had
speed limit sign recognition? Have it displayed digitally on the dashboard.
It would save a lot of speeding fines. I got
pulled over last week when I turned off State High

(38:21):
Won into a quiet country road and did not see
the sign. Fortunately I was giving a warning. Don I
saw the sign and opened up my eyes. I saw
the sign. Oh wait, tuned eight Teddy and nine two
nine two text my name is Marcus, welcome So yes.
Anyone got a reason why it would be bared to

(38:42):
join Australia. By the way, I don't think there's any
will for that to happen. I think it's a funny
old election cycle, this one isn't it. We're halfway through
and things are looking a little bit unspectacular for Luxon.

(39:04):
I'm not close to people that party. I don't know
if they're relaxed about it. I'm not hearing people say
that change is afoot normally people that start saying change
is a foot and leadership of people that try to
undermine people, so they seem today he seems to not
been undermined at the moment Luxan, which I'm sure he'd

(39:27):
find very refreshing. Marcus, if you heard about a new
middle distance run he's fifteen, that's right, I've heard about him,
and we've got a new hundred meters runner that's doing
very very well. Also, get in touch Marcistal twelve thirteen
past nine, sky Rowing the sky, rowing the super Bowl

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and combining with Australia. I don't want to throw too
many topics at you, but you get the idea. These
are the major topics. I'm not quite sure what Seamour
was up to with his stunts. I try not to
pay too much attention. There's always been a long story tradition.
There was some guy that drove a track for this,

(40:12):
I think one of bil English drivers. Anyway, people do
that from time to time, desperate for attention. I don't
know what you want to say about that. Probably nothing again.
Touch one name as Marcus, Welcome eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty nine nine to detext Brian Adams his concert

(40:34):
in Western Australia canceled because of a fatberg large blockage
of fat, grease and rags sewage was backing up in
the venue's toilets. I blame wetwipes. Doesn't sound good, does it.

(41:05):
I wonder if anyone's written the parody Brian Adams song
yet about Fatberg's getting touch forty Oh, I need your
calls down. Come on, people, anyone got any good fundraising
or what are your fundraising ideas that have worked for you.
I'm looking for a good fundraising idea. You got doney

(41:28):
for your club or that was that was a knockout.
I want to raise a bit of money quite quickly,
well really, but you know what's happened to when you've
got kids there and teams and there's always people talk
about fundraisers. I just wonder if anyone struck on anything
really good. I think there are. I think a lot
of the old fundraisers you can't do quite so easily

(41:49):
these days because of oh, I don't know what to
do with laws or something. Anyway, get in touch the
numbers eight hundred and eighty, ten eighty and nine to
nine two detext. You got to be a part of it. Hello,

(42:09):
So it's Marcus.

Speaker 9 (42:10):
Welcome, Hello Marcus of Australian. But I have lived in
New Zealand for thirty years, so I did the opposite.
I reversed and came to New Zealand. So I actually
thirty one years ago. So yeah, I lost count met

(42:30):
a Keywian settled here. But it's often come up about
New Zealand joining Australia, and even though we are close,
we're actually quite different in lots of ways. Our you know,
we've we've probably got more idealistic, equitable, you know, ideology

(42:51):
in New Zealand, whereas Australia is so vastly different. But
in Australia you have states and territories and they're all different.
They're individually run, their own government, their own you have
state government, state budgets, all the industry, all that sort
of thing. So I guess in the practical you could

(43:13):
look at New Zealand wouldn't lose its identity. It would
become a state of Australia and it would have its
own governance and what have you. So but I can't
see knowing the kiwis that I do. I can't see
the Kiwei's signs.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Up for it.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Well, no one seems opposed to it tonight, And thank
you for your very good point that because they're all
separate states with their own government anyway, in some ways,
that seems to make the whole combination a lot easy,
doesn't it.

Speaker 9 (43:43):
Yeah, you're not going to have like a top heavy
dominant government of Australia and losing your identity. When you
think of Tasmania, that's where I'm from. It's very different
to queens And we even have a different accent. New Zealand,
Queensland and New South Wales have a different twang. And

(44:04):
in fact, when I travel overseas, people often ask if
I'm English, and so we're very similar to South Australian.
So I'm not quite sure why we have amazing history
that I could probably you know, work out why. You know,
Tasmanium is a penal colony, Connolly colony, so we come

(44:26):
from convict stock and I have interesting die come from
convict from my great great was a convict, so interesting.
So I guess just the different twins and emphasis on,
you know, accents are different, so and Tasmania is very

(44:47):
different to Victorious, so they're very Tasmania is probably an Ireland.
It's you know, it's very similar to New Zealand and
the very you know wilderness conscious of wilderness and and and.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
They have they're having big environmental campaigns to stop hydro
and mining heaven there in.

Speaker 9 (45:10):
Tasmania and like it all. You know, that's another debate
that federal did ever step state government in that in
one of those in the Franklin Dam so you can
retain there's a difference. In Australian government is quite complex

(45:30):
in an Upper House and Lower House, so I guess
that's law changes take forever to change, whereas here we
have an MMP system, so you have a select committee
and then it's just a numbers game back in Parliament
and then it's law across New Zealand. So in lots
of ways we operate as a state really, you know,
in a mindset of like a state of Australia. Maybe

(45:54):
people might disagree with that, but I can't say. I
don't know. The only reason I can see why people
would oppose it is that, you know, you do have
a special you know, respect and a pride in the
New Zealand. Yeah, so I want to get the treaty

(46:15):
would be an issue as.

Speaker 3 (46:16):
Well well, or that could I mean you could lead
to I mean that could be written down in some
sort of formal agreement. But like it was. But so,
what did the great great great steal?

Speaker 9 (46:28):
Oh no, she didn't steal. She was a woman who
came from I think she came from Ireland. I'm still
learning about her. But she had went it's called the
Female Factory in Hobart and the women were basically sent
out for you know, a sniffle, because they wanted the
women to populate Tasmania. And it's an amazing, amazing history.

(46:52):
And I was quite quite moved and visited the Female
Factory and went through the history of it last year
when I was there. So she had a child, obviously
out of wedlock. She was a prisoner in the fem
Our Factory. She was allowed to keep the child, which
was a girl there and my great great whatever and yeah,

(47:13):
she was allowed to stay with her for three years.
But in that prison, those children weren't allowed to speak,
the women weren't allowed to speak. They worked out that
the great way you could destroy women's spirit has just
topped them talking.

Speaker 18 (47:31):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (47:32):
Wow, they had a thousand ways to break their spirit.
It's quite amazing. Yeah, that's just one half. That's my
mother's side of the story. Yeah, so and my husband
is Mari. So my children, my husband's probably said to
you before they lament that they come from a line
of convicts and cannibals and they have no home. But anyway, so, yes,

(47:57):
it's very very interesting history. And I think we've got
a lot of shared and shared ideals and if we
were faced, we've proven it in the past, the antics
that we can join together and fight whatever we have
to fight for, and we have shared ideals.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
Nice to talk. So surprising that none of those sort
of political parties can We've got such variety of them,
None of them, to my knowledge, you have ever made
this one of the tenants of their campaign, because I'm
sure you know there's no Well, I can't work out
why they haven't done that, because there's always there's always
been to gain the system for some reason, and the

(48:38):
fact they don't want to do that makes me even
more suspicious. I think cheaper supermarket prices that would be
a good thing, wouldn't it. Is that something you want
to talk about the advantages of joining Australia and combining
who knows what's going to happen now that politics seems

(49:00):
to have changed so much with Musk and all people
seem to have a going through a phase of not
respecting the norms so much and kind of shaking it
up a bit. I don't think necess you think that
Trump's going to get Kender. Jeff. You come with much recommendation.

(49:22):
I'm going to keep you focused. Do you want to
talk about joining Australia?

Speaker 6 (49:26):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 19 (49:29):
I just don't think it's sorry, but I just don't
think it's a very good idea. New Zealand's got a
New Zealand now all about this mining rights?

Speaker 3 (49:42):
Jeff, can we just drill down to excuse the mining pun?
Why don't you think it's a good idea?

Speaker 19 (49:49):
I just don't. I think we should just keep New
Zealand separate from Australia. What would be very sorry?

Speaker 3 (49:56):
What would you don't know? I mean, I don't care.
You don't have to apologize to me, But what would
be wrong with it?

Speaker 19 (50:03):
I just think there would be another country coming into
New Zealand. New Zealand is New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
You can't just say because just saying New Zealand as
new Zealand means. That's like saying white is white. That
doesn't mean anything New Zealand, because I mean New Zealand
could very much be part of Australia. New Zealand could
be called New Zealand still and could be one of
the states of Australia. So you could say New Zealand
is Australia in ten years time.

Speaker 19 (50:31):
Yeah, I'm sorry, because I'm because I've lived in New
Zealand all my life and worked here all my life.
I just cannot see you.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
But do you come up with come up with some reasons.

Speaker 19 (50:47):
I just don't think it's a good idea.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
You've got to bring some reasons to the table.

Speaker 19 (50:53):
Well, part of this way a sort of incorporating another
country into New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Okay, yeah, Marcus, what's really grinding my gears? Like there's
so many people sitting in the fast on the motorway
and don't move over. Yesterday, heading south, we're behind a
white ute tewing a trailer going eighty. That's all good
in the spin link for a trayer, But Sunday a
lot of vehicles on the road and stays right next

(51:21):
to the car beside him doing eighty k's from Drury
Off ramp to near Bombay. W TF. Everyone starts sitting
on their horn. He didn't move so ignorant and didn't
give a rat's tail. Someone sees the Tasmanian devil terrifies

(51:41):
me in their bush at night. Oh there it's a
testimoniing devil. Still of thing. What's the one that is
extinct just recently extinct?

Speaker 16 (52:02):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (52:03):
I know the Testimonia. What was the one that tiger?
That one that that was it has been the devil's
talk about nasty. What was that one that was the tiger?
Remember that one that striped? One that was extinct about
fifty years ago. They'll probably bring that back now with

(52:24):
old DNA. It was the Tasmanian wolf or the thila
scene had stripes. I don't think it was a tiger.
It was a wolf. It was a wolf. And by

(52:46):
the way, if we join Australia, we don't bring all
the pests across. That'd be crazy when you've done that
in the past. Hold your horses people with you soon.
New Zealand is New Zealand.

Speaker 15 (52:59):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Could you update the cricket score, but well, I'm pretty
sure it's halftime he's got three hundred and five, so
in obviously is that, but we're not betting yet. There's
no one there. It's amazing how that one day cricket
just got ricked by twenty twenty, which is a much
worse format. But there's no one turning up for it anymore.

(53:22):
It'll cease to exist. I love it, love it. But
thanks John, oh, I will be updating them. Well, that's
good advice from you. I take your advice seriously because
the people know. Oh yeah. Also, the replay of the
Super bowls on at the moment, if you want to
go and watch that, Gray welcome.

Speaker 20 (53:44):
Okay, mate, how are you great? I'm just not onto
them that. I heard the debate over New Zealand becoming
the state of Australia, and my first thoughts were absolutely not.
But then I also thought there was no treaty signed
between Mary and the Australian government, so I would for.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
It, although I think I think there would be I mean,
if if we have statehold, there would be conditions for
I don't know what would happen when they went about it,
there would be conditions for it. I don't I don't
necessarily mean that that would that would predict that would
make it a thing or not a thing. I think
that would be something that they have to discuss separately.

(54:28):
Greg Cybern Marcus welcome.

Speaker 7 (54:32):
Yeah, Hi Marcus.

Speaker 12 (54:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (54:33):
I'm sort of against New Zealand becoming part of Australia.
So one of my main reasons is there's no acc
in Australia. If you get a job with someone, you've
better know a good lawyer because if you have an accident,
you're going to have to see your employer. My sister,

(54:57):
she had quite a bad accident. She was a nurse
in Australia and there was a they was in Cairns
and they had a fountain and the water from the
fountain was on spreading on the floor and she slipped
and she ended up breaking her ankle quite badly and
having a plate put in, and so she was told,

(55:22):
she was advised that she better get herself a lawyer
and sue the hospital because otherwise she'd get no compensation.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Did it work out for her, Yes, yes, she.

Speaker 7 (55:36):
Got compensation and so she was all right, but she
wasn't able to work for a while.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
But if she was, if she was here with acc
she stilled about to work for a while, would she.

Speaker 7 (55:47):
No, No, but at least she would get some support
from ACC. I think she did get some payment, but
she had to fight for it with a lawyer to
make the hospital pay for her. And most companies in
Australia they have insurance for that. A friend of mine, no,
it's my cousin's husband, he had a dog kennel and

(56:11):
he had a staff member there and she was attacked
by one of the dogs and he just took it
as natural that she would sue him, and she did,
and so he had to pay out a whole lot
of money to her. And also in Australia, if someone
comes to your place and they have an accident on

(56:34):
your property, they can sue you too. I saw a party.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
The fact that the fact that they don't have acc
and we do, though that would not prevent an amalgamation.
What that could just be worked out. They could either
respect our separate system or that they could change our systems.

Speaker 7 (56:57):
So yeah, yeah. And also someone was talking about the
medical system. So I was under I moved here from Australia.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
Are you Australian.

Speaker 7 (57:09):
Yes, okay, And I was under the medical system in Australia.
I had treatment for kind of cancer and even though
it's covered, so we have Medicare there. But what would
happen is the doctors I saw in the hospital, they

(57:30):
would send me all their bills and I would have
to send each one of those to Medicare, fill in
a form and send to Medicare, and Medicare would then
send me back at check. This is some years ago,
and I would then have to post that check to
the doctor that I saw. And when I went into

(57:51):
the public hospital, so I had private insurance, they asked
me in the public hospital do you have private insurance?
And I said yes, and they said, well, then you
can get in straight away. If I didn't, I'd have
to go on a wait list.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Would you be the same here? Wouldn't it?

Speaker 7 (58:09):
Well?

Speaker 12 (58:09):
Here?

Speaker 7 (58:10):
If you have private insurance, do you only go in
private hospitals? They can't go into a public hospital with
private insurance.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Was there much paperwork or did that add to the
stress of viewing unwell the setting off of doing the
paperwork and stuff with that sounds like the last thing
you need.

Speaker 7 (58:31):
Yes, Because I was in hospital having a lung biopsy
because they had detected a lump in the lung and
the only way that they could determine whether it was
cancerous or not was to actually open the chest and
take out a piece of the lung. And so I
was in hospital for about four weeks, and so when

(58:51):
I came out, I then had to then recover so
I could then start chemotherapy. And when I got home,
I had a whole stack of bills, my tape on
my on my desk, which I had to attend to
and do myself.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
Sounds about grim, doesn't it.

Speaker 7 (59:16):
Yeah. And also they have a schedule fee system, so
Medicare sets a schedule fee for every procedure, and so
for the operation that I had, the doctor he charged
based on the AMA fee schedule, which is usually a

(59:41):
lot higher than what the government sets, and so that's
what he charged me. And I had private insurance, but
private insurance is only allowed to pay up to the
schedule fee that the government sets, so I just had
to pay the rest myself.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Nice to hear from you, Simon, Thank you for that
twenty three to ten text here high markers. Sooner the
better for me we become the state of Australia. In
general discussions among my friends, I've often suggested this should
happen in recent times, we have begun to agree, which
has surprised me. I feel we are too small to
remain this way. We need to sport of a larger

(01:00:21):
economy to build infrastructure, et cetera, where we combined with China.
But yeah, if that's the whole thing, then why not
go someone bigger? Jamie, Marcus, good.

Speaker 16 (01:00:40):
Evening, Hey Marcus, here you go.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Good, Thank you, Jamie.

Speaker 16 (01:00:45):
I'm just listening to your last caller. And we don't
have accs, but we do have work cover. And I
was on work cover for two months of pulling a
curling on my truck and got fought and sort of
ripped my shoulder out. Anyway, yeah, straight or so straight away?

(01:01:05):
Why not work yourself? They've pulled me off the road
to see a workuster he said you can't work. Took
about three weeks and I've got ninety percent of my
pay averaged out over the year. And then as well,
you have CPT insurance which is part of your ridgio
when you pay for your ridgeo and that covers you
for if you're in a car accident. So the only

(01:01:27):
thing is if you get in like injured out like
on a farm or something, you know, doing your hobby,
then you're not covered. They won't pay you for that.
But you have meetings here and that. If you go
to anywhere that's bulk filled, it's one hundred percent free.
But the wife's got a lot of health problems and
she's forever gone a doctor. You just go to a
bulk build US and you don't have to pay. They

(01:01:49):
have changed some of their laws the government. You're got
to pay for something, but pretty much in a hole
if you go to a bulk build doctor a street.
The wife's reckons it's better here with the health system
than in New Zealand. And that's dealt with a lot
more than I. It would probably MEDIICARETU to be a

(01:02:11):
no brainer for you, as I would have thought.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Does she have to pay personally for Medicare Jamie.

Speaker 16 (01:02:19):
It comes in your tax so depending on your tax bracket,
Like if you've got private health insurance, you don't have
to pay the medi care living they call it. So
if you don't, like I don't, haven't bothered, you've got
to pay the medikere living And it just depends on
how much you earn and how much the livery you
got to pay. But I think it's maximized back fifteen

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hundred bucks or something.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
So the autie system works for you.

Speaker 16 (01:02:46):
Yeah, it's real good. Yeah, okay, I haven't worried about
getting pilate health insurance anything or just pay the medikere
living and it's all good. Come out of your tax
when you do your tax return and you don't even
don't worry about it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
What happened to the did it get blown or to
get jammed?

Speaker 16 (01:03:05):
Yeah, I was just pulling it probably a bit too
vigorously and then it just got like the little buckles
at the bottom just caught on them side of the
trailer and it just sort of yeah, like tweaked my
shoulder a bit. So yeah, and then I just rung.

Speaker 20 (01:03:18):
Up work for good.

Speaker 16 (01:03:19):
We bring up work straight away and they're like, all right,
you've got to go see the work after done that.
And he's like, yeah, I think it was like the
tweak and have a four weeks after them on reassess
every week just went back and yeah, never like it
took them a few weeks. I was on base waves
to the start off. So work just pay your wages

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and then once work cover get your claim, then they
pay work back and you get back dated just like
ninety percent of your wages.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
What did you do with your time off?

Speaker 16 (01:03:52):
Oh I had to go into the office and sit
there and shup on paper.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
Oh yeah you really you'd be useless of that, wouldn't you.

Speaker 16 (01:04:00):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I just basically in the end it
or just the boss was like, I'll just show up.
He goes either see you go home. It's just like
or a lot they have they've got to pick. There's
not a lot of time injury and then yeah, that
was a right end up a lot the final ms
being at home, I.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Was okay, good explanation, Jamie, thank you. Seventeen to ten
Marc is still twelve all about becoming part of Australia.
A couple of emails coming through and gets to those
before too long evening, Mark Marcus, welcome, Hi.

Speaker 21 (01:04:36):
I just wanted to talk about the Constitution of Australia
when it was formed, or when it was created back
to the turn of the century. They left a clause
in there that enabled US, Tailor and New Zealand to
join up. They put the word out, you know, if
you want to come and join, we're open to it.

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That clause is still there. So it's a huge possibility
and it has huge benefits New Zealand decide to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
So it's a possibility. It doesn't mean though they have
to accept us do that. I'm sure it could still
be discussed, right.

Speaker 22 (01:05:15):
Oh, I'm sure.

Speaker 21 (01:05:15):
I'm sure without a doubt. But the clause was written
in the Constitution. At the time of the Constitution, they
got a group of politicians and hierarchy or whatever you
want to call them across over to Melbourne and for

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the big discussion of when they joined all the states together,
and at the time the New Zealanders said, well, well,
you really don't want to be governed by Australia because
of the distance. They didn't, they couldn't, they wouldn't. They
didn't think it would work for the two thousand kilometers

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across the tenn and they thought it would just be
too much. But that was one hundred years ago and
things have changed, you know, communications a lot faster than
I say. It's just a possibility, and I think it
would be a big advantage.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
Well, people sayd to be thinking that, Mark, thank you.
I'll try and find the actual passage in the Constitution.
The Australian Constitution. What year would that be nineteen hundred?

Speaker 12 (01:06:29):
Was it?

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
Get in touch?

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
Mark is still twelve? Just tucked that in the mass.
We'll see the actual facts of it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Yes, Zin has mentioned the Australian Constitution, but his incidents.
You don't have the right to vote in Australian elections
the colony of the inn and participate in the early
Federation conferences. There was not a strong interest in New
Zealand for joining with the Australian colleges to former new colony.
New zion delegates did not attend the conference where the
draft Australian Constitution was written. The Constitution gives New Zealand

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the option to join Australia, Covering Claws six of the
Constitution states New Zealand may be admitted into Australia as
a state. Section one two one provides the rules on
how the new state would be admitted. As non Australian citizens,
Uzinnahs cannot vote in Australian elections. Pretty on the money,
Mark nineteen hundred, nineteenth of July. Plot thickens. They evening Karen,

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It's Marcus.

Speaker 18 (01:07:45):
Welcome, Hi Michaels, how are you deceiving?

Speaker 23 (01:07:48):
Good?

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Thank you?

Speaker 21 (01:07:50):
Awesome.

Speaker 18 (01:07:51):
I was looking into our history a little while ago
and was really really surprised to find out that New
Zealand was part of New South Wales ride up until
eighteen forty one, and it seems to be part of
New South Wales on the first of July and eighteen

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forty one, and Cheers Hobson became New Zealand's first governor
but died on the tenth of September eighteen forty two,
was still in office. And there's a whole link to
that on Google if you want to google that and
look at any more information.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Are you in favor of us joining Australia.

Speaker 18 (01:08:32):
I think that's a good possibility for us for a
lot of reasons. Yeah, pretty open minded, but again is
open to debate and discussion and see how people feel
about things and things are changing around the world.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
Nice to hear from you, Keerin. Something else is suggested too,
that this is interesting. I think this has a bit
of history that I do find fascinating. There is a
suburb in act Canberra pronounced Manouka or Manukah or Marnuka,

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depending on the pronunciation or I think it's got two
different forms of pronunciation. The precinct is named after Manuka Circle,
the street which forms the northern boundary of the precinct.
Manuka Circle was on Baurley Griffin's original plan for Canberra

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and named after the Aleptospermum scoparium, which is the tee
tree the Monuakah. The name Manuka is pronounced by most,
like all Canberan's, differently from the tree after which both
street and suburb are named. The common name for the
tree species comes from the Maldi word for Manuka is

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sometimes written with the macron. That's not the interesting bit.
When Griffin drew up the plans for Canberra in nineteen twelve,
there was still some optimism that New Zealand might join
the Federation of Australia. Griffin's plan included eight avenues radiating

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out from the Capitol Hill, named after the capitals of
the sixth State, the capital of the Northern Territory and
the capital of New Zealand. Before the name Willington Avenue
was gazette it was realized that Uzine was not going
to become part of a Federation of Australasia, and the
name was replaced by Canberra Avenue. Griffin planned that the
state capital City avenues were terminated with a park named

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after the generic botanical name for a native plant from
that particular site. For example, Tellopia Park is named after
the war Retah, the floral emblem of New South Wales,
and is at the end of Sydney Avenue, named after
the capital of New South Wales. Another remnant of Griffin's
nomenclature was the Wellington Hotel, formerly on the corner of

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Canberra av a national circuit, which demolished, demolished and replaced
by the hotel known as Ridges. So even in the
planning of Canberra, they thought New Said was going to
become part of Australasia. Very interesting. I don't know how

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many historically, how many countries in the last say, fifty
twred years have combined with their bigger neighbor. Can you
think of some examples? Yeah, get in touch, Marcus. This

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country issues of the same Wellington City has. Successful governments
have sold of all the assets that leaves us in
the position of no passive income. We now rely solely
on Texas for all income. With a demand these stay
as low as possible. I think Australians would want us

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good evening. Graham AND's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 15 (01:12:10):
Now, I getting the Marcus just interested in their discussion
on the Australian side of things. I think it was
in nineteen eighty seven when the Commonwealth discussions are going
on that BIX then turned down the offer of joining
the Comwealth. Could have been nineteen eighteen or something on
another day around that time. But we actually still have
the put option, the right to put ourselves in the
Commonwealth if we say, decide at any particular point in time,

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our combined sort of growth dimession product with the Australia
would add to theirs, and we had certainly benefit the
liguord market for their complications with the treaty issue, which
they don't have in Australia. Say, there are all sorts
of considerations to work through. The other factor of the
areas that the Australian Constitution seems to give all power

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to the states along and power the Comwalth, which is
the opposite of the US. So we have this continual
fractious in fighting in Australian amongst the states for allocation
of funds for all sorts of federal issues as well.
But on balance the idea is not a bad one.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
And from the observer from here the whole state basis
of the Australian government. You talk about campaigning for money
and stuff, but as an observer, a tesman seaway, it
looks like it functions fairly well.

Speaker 15 (01:13:25):
I think it does. I think it does. You've got
a vast company there with many a natural resources of
that and most of your populations on the Eastern seaboard,
so it would work and roll in New Zealand. But
as I said, as treaty and other sort of social
and issues to consider it, I don't think the idea

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is a bad one, to be quite frank, But the
treaty could still be maybe our future.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
The treaty could still be relevant to New Zealand, would
still have our own state laws as part of that.
You know, I'm sure there would be there would be
ways around that to not diminish the legal standing.

Speaker 15 (01:14:03):
Yeah, I've got accommodated that way.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Yeah, I'm going to run for headlines, but they first
and foremost. Can I just say I'm enjoying the spirit
of the tonight's debate. The people are very polite and
considered what they've been saying, which is a yeah. So
you know, we're just discussing whether it would be any
advantages to become a state of Australia. So always quite

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confusing with how many states Australia has because the've got states,
they've got territories. I'm never quite sure about the confusion there.
But anyway, we're talking about using in becoming the next
of Australia's states. I don't quite know what the differencetween
a territory and a state is. Often pondered that it

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says the Commonwealth of Australia's made up of six states
and ten territories, which is wrong because it's six states
and two territories already, so that's from the startup. The
Google is not good, So I don't know what a
state and a territory is. You've got New South Wales,
you've got Victoria, you've got Queensland, you've got South Australia,

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got Western Australia, you've got Tasmania, and you've got the
Northern Territory and the Australian Capital Territory. So the distinction
between those, I don't know. I guess yeah, someone might
explain that, but that's just the byline.

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
Really.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
I'm just trying to work out we'd become the so
I guess that means we'd become the seventh state unless
we become a territory. I don't really know what the
difference is. So that's what we're discussing about. Whether we
should become part of Australia thirty two without loss years.
Then we are playing Young's on nine Conways sixteen. We're

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talking about other countries that combined with their neighbors. Someone
who's texted the most recent was East Team or joining Indonesia.
The most recent voluntarily is seven countries combining as the
United Arab Emirates Abu Abu Dhabi, Dubai, shahjah ahman Our Quran,

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Fajairah and raz Al Khmina, thank you, thank you, Marcus.
I heard the other day that in twenty twenty eight
here there will be one million people on superannuation. It
will cost fifty billion a year. Also went to a

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top doctor and she said the government is looking at
the American system where employers for working people have to
have compulsory medical from employees which will be paid both
ways these parties and text deductible for employees. It's been
a medical professionals telling you that, but thank you. We're

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talking about New Zealand and joining Australia. I think it's
a good thing or a bad thing, by the way. Surprisingly,
I don't want to be a fear amonger. But no
one's mentioned this. This is not any party I knows policy.
But as things aren't looking great for Luxeon, you know,

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I imagine probably we're looking at things to grab the
agenda because kind of lost the room a little bit.
But anyway, if you want to talk eight hundred and eighty, Louise,
it's Marcus good evening.

Speaker 24 (01:17:50):
On the evening, Marcus.

Speaker 19 (01:17:54):
Nor here.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
You see I haven't got it all. You sound fine?
Where I am?

Speaker 21 (01:17:58):
So okay?

Speaker 24 (01:18:04):
Yes, I said it's a great idea. And I've spoken
about this two people over the years, and you get
one of two reactions.

Speaker 6 (01:18:18):
You get no.

Speaker 24 (01:18:19):
Way or yes, I can see them. Yes, I think
it'd be great idea. We're getting medicare you know, we're
not we're not surviving on our own. I don't think
we'd lose our identity.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
I don't think so either. I'm surprised no one that's
rung up seems to be really opposed to it.

Speaker 24 (01:18:43):
Oh that's good. Well, yeah, how would it, How would
it happen? Would it be Australia inviting us or them?

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
I guess you they're a referendum. I guess it comes
apart of something that people talk about. I don't know
how it would happen, but things sometimes happen quite quickly,
can't they.

Speaker 24 (01:19:00):
Well, yes, yes, I do. I think it's a great idea.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
There might be great advantage of advantages to how much
we need to spend militarily as well.

Speaker 24 (01:19:09):
Yeah, well yes, and medicare. I mean that's brilliant medicare.
We're it's stayres the rich country. We're not a rich
country and we're going down too. It's quite frankly and
it'd be brilliant. Couldn't think anything better.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
We maybe we could get them to make our fairies.
Is too fair because there hasn't been much talk about
the entry in recent years, has there? I mean they
would be getting a new one soon, the delivery dates
not far away, but oh know, they put the kish
on that and haven't recovered since.

Speaker 19 (01:19:43):
Oh.

Speaker 24 (01:19:43):
I just can't believe that. It's just with secular But
what can you do?

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
We have got we have got dairy and daeries in
the sweet spot at the moment. But you know that
Deery's up and down, isn't it going? It a couple
of bad winters and she's all over Rover.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Yeah, and war was down, so you know it's it's time.

Speaker 24 (01:20:04):
I think we should do it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:07):
And they keep saying, they keep saying tourism, you know,
but I think I saw someone posting the figures from tourism.
I can't believe how much the tourism comes down. I mean,
it doesn't seem as they were making any So, you know,
I don't I don't know where. I don't know what
the key to our prosperity.

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
Is going to be.

Speaker 7 (01:20:26):
Yees, do you know?

Speaker 13 (01:20:30):
No?

Speaker 21 (01:20:30):
I don't.

Speaker 24 (01:20:36):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Maybe maybe it is the last option. Maybe the last
remaining option is joined Australia if they have us. Good evening, Neil,
it's Marcus. Welcome, Hi Marcus.

Speaker 22 (01:20:48):
I'm just putting in my toppens. What's about the uniting
with Australia. I think you'd have to be careful how
you did it, and I think it wouldn't a great
idea just to be absorbed as escape. I think you'd
have to run it something like maybe like our United Kingdom,

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where Scotland's gone into the United Kingdom X amount of
years ago, but they still have their own laws now,
their own sort of NHS. You know these these things also,
you know, like you've got to consider Australias get different
rules for the pension. You know, our pension is universal.
You get it and that's it whether us over there,

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if you're worked over a certain amount of your house
is worth over a certain amount, you won't get the pension.
Or you're let's say, let's say your wife was handicapped
and couldn't work so over in Australia, if she hadn't
paid anything into the pension, she wouldn't get any pension,
isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
Yeah, I don't think it would be a I don't
think it would be a straightfold thing. I think they
would be. Yeah, it would require a certain amount of
time to earn everything out. But beer in mind too
that there are the individual states do have separate laws
for a lot of different things. There are a lot
of separate laws for states. But yeah, I am hearing

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what you're saying. Yeah, And also also, Neil, I'm not
hearing anyone in government or anyone that anyone listening to
advocating it either. So you know, I don't know. I
don't know how adveratite there is for it apart from
people what people have said tonight. But that's often where
things start. People just start talking about it.

Speaker 20 (01:22:34):
Yeah, I mean, I.

Speaker 22 (01:22:35):
Don't think I'll happen in my lifetime. I don't think that.
You never know in the future what might happen.

Speaker 25 (01:22:40):
You know that.

Speaker 22 (01:22:42):
Sometimes things changed, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (01:22:44):
You know the.

Speaker 22 (01:22:47):
I suppose that was how the United Kingdom came about
because things changed, isn't it. England needed security on the boarders,
especially from the you know, the French coming in from
Scotland and the Scots have gone bankrupts and they needed
some help as well. And it's just all things change
all the time, and people up to it, don't they.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
And as we look at the path of history, I'm
thinking of places like Italy and things like that, it
seems as though countries have become bigger through time, with
different municipalities combining. That seems to be you know, there
seems to be advantages to be bigger. There aren't many
advantages by being as smaller. There aren't many places breaking
away un as they've got a separate faith or ethnicity.

Speaker 22 (01:23:31):
Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I think if you're if you're
going to accept that, you'd have to iron all these
problems out. And you know, obviously I wouldn't going as
a state. I think you'd be looking at more as
some sort of united country or something like that. I don't.
I didn't think it was work as a state, don't.
I don't. I could see a lot of problems with that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
Okay, thank you, Jeff, it's Marcus.

Speaker 7 (01:23:56):
Hello.

Speaker 25 (01:23:58):
These are great topic markers. I just want to point
out Australia innocent a New Guinnea for decades. He gave
it up so biggy padd they administered New Guineas and

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then they gave it up. So while were they what
you feel them now?

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
So you think there would be a risk that they
have actually been in US.

Speaker 25 (01:24:31):
Well, I mean they don't look to be going for
EXPENSI and do they they're retreating if anything?

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
Yeah, I'm sure I guess probably P and G wanted independence,
didn't they.

Speaker 25 (01:24:47):
Yes, that Australia could have had a great advantage by
hanging on to Hippen New Guinea because of the minimum
resources and also the strategic position against China.

Speaker 3 (01:25:02):
Yeah, I don't know too much about how that unraveled.
I would imagine, and it was probably them themselves wanting
self determination, but maybe the Yeah, maybe they didn't have
that option to hang on to them.

Speaker 25 (01:25:15):
Yeah, I think you don't know much to be be
interesting to hear the view of it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
Yeah, appreciate that, Jeff, thank you for coming through. Well,
the lines changed, Dan, Is there anything I need to
tell the people of it so people won't know any
different when they ring up? This feels a bit weird. Well,
I mean when they say do phone mainers, what do
you know?

Speaker 15 (01:25:41):
Who knows?

Speaker 3 (01:25:43):
Who knows? Getting touched by names? Marcus welcome? Oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. Should we become part of Australia?
And which part do we become part of New South Wales?
We become our own state. Most of the things we

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get excited about, coins while there's to be no money
soon anyway, stamps while they're out, most places to be
excited about. Medicaid. And I guess with all the nurses
moving to Australia, well that would stop that, wouldn't it,

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because the nurses would be moving here because we would
be part of Australia, cheaper groceries at the supermarket we
get cold exciting or Aldi? Who have they got over there?
Aldi is one of those ones. Fifty for zero. Good

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start for New Zealand and the cricket. We're chasing about
three hundred and something, just over three hundred. There's twenty
nine thousand people watching it streaming on YouTube without loss.
Young on ten Conway on twenty four. Do you remember

(01:27:12):
what we were chasing?

Speaker 15 (01:27:13):
Dan?

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
Was about three twenty or something?

Speaker 14 (01:27:14):
Wasn't Do you.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
Remember what we're chasing?

Speaker 8 (01:27:20):
Dan?

Speaker 3 (01:27:20):
And the old three or five year there ago? Marcus
dropped some money on the Warriors. It's the year they
look good. Well funny, you know, because I was just
doing my fantasy football team last night and there's a
lot of players I wasn't quite sure about.

Speaker 23 (01:27:45):
So yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
Have not got on so well in fantasy football whatever.
It's called an el super League, and I'm not quite
sure where to get the young players cheaply all the
old players. So I've had a few and I'm not
quite sure about players like Latrelle. I'll start off with

(01:28:11):
Liam Martin. I thought there'd be a good place to start.
I love him, he's a number one. I've worked my
way from there, reed, Marney, I thought he'd be good.
Who's that guy for the Tigers? That young guy, the
fittest player there. What's his name, Lockie or something. I've
gone with him, but it's causing me quite a lot

(01:28:32):
of anxiety. Anyway, I'll keep you posted fantasy football. I
don't know it's called fantasy footballer. I've gone with Fisher Harris,
so I think he'll be good captaining. Has he keptain yet?
He looked good on Does he play on Friday?

Speaker 13 (01:28:52):
Think?

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
Say look good anyway? Petty Marcus welcome.

Speaker 13 (01:28:56):
Yeah, Marcus has given you all those answers to those questions.
You have to have Harris died play, Fisher harristed play,
and you need the number six out of the Tigers.
You mean that young guy out of the Tiger?

Speaker 6 (01:29:12):
Yeah, what's his number six?

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
He looks different.

Speaker 13 (01:29:15):
It's going to be good. He's going to be good.

Speaker 8 (01:29:16):
He's going he's.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
Throwing a beard Sosch. How he recognized him?

Speaker 13 (01:29:22):
Yeah, yeah, well he's he's going to be a star
one day. It's just the you pick. Is it now
or is it in a couple of years? Tend to
what supports around them.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
You know, Well, because you've got to you've got to
look at how much they're going for as well, Lock
Lochlan Gal.

Speaker 22 (01:29:39):
Lot of trail?

Speaker 13 (01:29:41):
What do not do latrail? Why are you going to
do Latreel? He's only going to pay fifty percent? Again,
well but spend it?

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
Yes, but but but his price would reflect that, wouldn't it.

Speaker 13 (01:29:54):
Yeah, but he'd be suspended for half the game?

Speaker 3 (01:29:58):
Well are you supposed to read the social page? And
is he sort of himself out.

Speaker 13 (01:30:02):
The I've got I've got I've been following it.

Speaker 3 (01:30:08):
Was guy was Stephen Crichton because he's he's not going
to astray?

Speaker 16 (01:30:11):
Is he?

Speaker 13 (01:30:12):
I love Stephen Crichton. He puts everything in.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
Yeah, and he's only he's only he's only twenty three.
And I think he's got he's got the law or something,
hasn't he seems to be He's not one that's going
to say I think.

Speaker 13 (01:30:24):
Yeah, he's he's the Bulldogs guy come from. Yeah, you'd
have him. He's a puppy.

Speaker 3 (01:30:32):
What about Louis lou I won't go well at the
Tigers because Bingi's no good as a coach?

Speaker 21 (01:30:37):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (01:30:38):
But then I've gone with I don't.

Speaker 13 (01:30:40):
Know, don't know, but he's a Look, champions do not
not become champions. They just sometimes go through stages, and
he is. He is a champion, Lou, I will come right.

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
What about what about Jerome hughes By having a bad
a bad Grand Final? Is that going to reckon for
this ship? He's expensive?

Speaker 13 (01:31:04):
Yeah, I'd still have him. I've have roam, would you. Yeah,
he's he's sout, not South. He's down in Melbourne, isn't he?

Speaker 3 (01:31:14):
He was in the Grand Funnel, a terrible terrible Grand.

Speaker 13 (01:31:20):
When when's he coming back?

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
Was he injured?

Speaker 13 (01:31:22):
Is he injured?

Speaker 15 (01:31:23):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
I do think so terrible last game?

Speaker 6 (01:31:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:31:27):
No, it's got shoulder or foot.

Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
You follow it quite closely.

Speaker 13 (01:31:33):
Very closely. Yeah, I watched those two games. You'd have
to go through a few players in Penrod, the their
number thirteen?

Speaker 9 (01:31:42):
Who would you stop?

Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
Who looked at Cambridge? You go ethan strange?

Speaker 12 (01:31:48):
No, listen, I don't hang on.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
I gotta come back to you, petty.

Speaker 18 (01:31:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:54):
Would you go with the would you go with would
you go with the Hammer? Hamma so tabaway for Dow
just because you can say you got the Hammer on
your team.

Speaker 13 (01:32:02):
No, no, no, I'll tell you that there's a few
other ones I would I would play. I saw them
on the weekend too. I couldn't see anyone in the
Sharks that I really liked.

Speaker 25 (01:32:17):
What about that?

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
What about what about that?

Speaker 13 (01:32:19):
Mode?

Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
Not the ball guy, he's always good.

Speaker 13 (01:32:23):
Yeah, I would go with our hast that the guy
has in the Bronco. Okay, he's a little bit injured
all the time because he takes the workload on Payne has. Yes,
he's a prop he's all along with the price. Yeah,
yeah he is. He's a gutsy guy.

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
What about what about what about for Blake? Would you
go with him?

Speaker 25 (01:32:50):
No?

Speaker 13 (01:32:51):
No, I've always thought and this is just me. I
always thought for Noah, Blake turns up some days and
not the other days. You know, he's a little bit
uh and and I shouldn't you know, I've worked there,
so I don't wish to be.

Speaker 6 (01:33:10):
Judge.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
I judged him for the outfit more. I judged him
for the outfit the ward of the delim Awards. He
sort of seemed a bit sort of like a like a.

Speaker 13 (01:33:20):
Yeah yeah and goes the yeah exactly. And I wanted
more from him. I wanted him to take that team
and he needed to, but he didn't. At times he
shied back. You know, you've got to get it from
a prop you know. I know, Johnson, one man can't
win a team. The whole team has to win it.

(01:33:40):
You know, they really do.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
But you worked, you worked in head office, did you
I did?

Speaker 25 (01:33:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:33:47):
Yeah, yeah, yep. I'm so one eyed Warriors. I loved
my Warriors, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
And you know what, Perdy, did you think Jet looked good?

Speaker 13 (01:33:59):
I was really really now, people said, I asked this question,
what did you think of him?

Speaker 17 (01:34:05):
And I thought he was post for.

Speaker 13 (01:34:07):
A young twenty year old. He's telling his boys to
get back behind me, and I like that. I like
them to say, get back back, don't get offside. I
see the composure in his eyes that his brother and
his father has. He's just born into it, you know.

(01:34:27):
It's got composure. It's not a panic. Yeah, and that
to me will settle the team. And I watched her
for a couple of other new young guys, and every
time the ball came here, and now all are panicky,
you know, they were like so stressed they wanted to
get the ball, and that's great. Jet was not panicking

(01:34:52):
just thought the ball did around, did some fukex now
some never came off, But it's a start. Do you
want to do anything?

Speaker 3 (01:35:02):
Do you want to join Australia? Petty?

Speaker 13 (01:35:06):
Tell you that man who knew this is what I
rang about. This man, he made a few errors about
their health system is fantastic. Look honestly, Medicare. My sister
is on dialysis now, she's on Medicare, but she can
go to any private or public hospital and she has

(01:35:28):
a heart complaint and gets straightened to the Gold Coast Hospital.
It is second to none hospital. Now. He also made
a statement about if you're a private person in New Zealand,
you couldn't go to a public hospital. That is not
true if your operation requires a public hospital, and mine

(01:35:50):
did and I was private, I went straight into a
public If you're having a big heart operation, bad me
do it publicly in New Zealand. So he's a little
medical fact. You know, I think you would talking about
years ago. Things have changed changed quickly. Australia is now

(01:36:13):
doing breakthrough drugs stuff. You know, they are getting to
be world League leaders and all these drugs that they're producing.

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
It's funny because it seems to be the thing tonight?
Is that is that people don't want a private American
people seem to be a Medicare seems to be the
thing that people like.

Speaker 13 (01:36:35):
Alia, Yeah, I think we should have that medicare and
it gives you a certain amount of coverage and it's
not too expensive. It seems to be affordable. Yeah, you know, yeah,
we should have something like that because because our house
systems falling to pieces. Yes, yeah, you ever go up
there on Auckland, my god, if you ever have to

(01:36:58):
get in, it's just chaotic.

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
So since when do you think it's become chaotic?

Speaker 13 (01:37:08):
Well, I had a huge operation there and it started
like I had a triple bypass in twenty twenty one, Yes,
right the middle of COVID and they managed. Look now,
I've just been involved with a very sick lady out there,

(01:37:30):
taking her going up there a lot to see her
and she since started because she caught COVID in there,
but she she wasn't doing well. But to me, it's
that they're understand Is.

Speaker 3 (01:37:44):
It worse, Petty? Is it worse since since you were
there in twenty twenty one?

Speaker 13 (01:37:49):
I think so? I think it could be.

Speaker 3 (01:37:54):
You don't if I get a chance to ask someone
because people always hear stories and bad news travels, so
it's hard to know from someone like your silf. And
you're right out. Your triple bypass obviously saved your life,
and you're good.

Speaker 13 (01:38:05):
You sound like you're good, yes, and you know you
only get that at the public hospital. And I see
you as brilliant, fantastic. But the nurses I had that
were brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
We're from.

Speaker 13 (01:38:22):
Not from New Zealand. I had the ones from other countries.

Speaker 12 (01:38:27):
Oh they were good.

Speaker 13 (01:38:28):
Man, that was so good. But I think now we're
at a crisis point in our hospitals here. Now. I
can just see it when you have the opportunity to
go to Auckham Hospital at night because you're rushed there. It,
I mean, it's frightening. There's so many people waiting to
be seen, like hundreds that just go straight to the.

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
Present there because they haven't got any GPS. Because there's
so few gps, you can't.

Speaker 13 (01:38:58):
Get in for two weeks to go bear gpre Who
can do that?

Speaker 3 (01:39:02):
Crazy petty, good luck with your team. I've got a mom.
But I've enjoy were chatting to you about the legal
so because I just I've gotta get myself beck focused
on some of the players that I enjoyed last time.
I put to me, well, I've got to say I
put to me worries and my fantasy football team or
whatever it's called fantasy in our last year and oh yeah, anyway,
but could be the year someone's Texter Jeck Cleary was

(01:39:23):
born in Auckland is eligible alleged eligible for the Kiwis.
That's from JBI. Thanks Jamie Marcus. Joemasacho from the Dolphins
is good value. That's right, I've got him. He's scored
more than anyone else and he's such a good kicker.
From christ Church Marcus. Why would groceries be cheap if
we became part of Australia, goods still need to be

(01:39:43):
transported here, and I think that's why the goods are expensive,
the fact they're transported here. I think it's just that
we've got a Jiwopoli. We need another competitor. And what
imagine if we've become part of Australia, the supply network
is better. And for goodness say we can't even get
fairies organized as time beween the North and the South Island.

(01:40:06):
Hopefully you would get some good infrastructure and some good
decision making. It's what people want. They want a plan,
they want vision, and they want certainty. PVC plan, vision,
certainty all people want.

Speaker 17 (01:40:29):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:40:31):
That's why they run into problems with Elon. He's got
no plan. It's about breaking stuff. Works for a while,
works for a while. Fourteen to eleven, Margaret, it's Marcus.
Hello and welcome. Good evening, Hello Marcus.

Speaker 23 (01:40:50):
Marcus. I've been listening to you and I thought it
would be really interesting.

Speaker 18 (01:40:55):
If I'm Samari.

Speaker 23 (01:40:57):
People ran up with their perspective on the discussion.

Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
He swift ones, welcome to call Margaret.

Speaker 2 (01:41:05):
So yeah, Europe.

Speaker 23 (01:41:07):
But it would be interesting because I don't think that
some of them would actually feel, you know, that this
was a good idea. But I do recall I think
it was back in the sixties up in the northwest
of West Australia. There was a family and they declared

(01:41:33):
themselves to be a kingdom and they created the title
of king and queen and the princes and princesses of
that particular area. I don't know what happened in the end,
but you know, that was quite a big thing in

(01:41:56):
Australia at the time. So people, if they don't want
to be part of it, I imagine, can create their
own kingdom, providing they own the land.

Speaker 3 (01:42:11):
You I don't ever know the legal ways to make
that happen. What needs to happen for New Zealand to
join Australia. I don't know if you're a referendum would
do it or yeah, it's a good point, but you know,
we're just discussing at the stage whether there is a
willingness of people. And surprisingly, I thought people would be
furious about the idea, but almost to a person, most

(01:42:31):
people have been in favor of it, all through self
interest but made me through health. That seems to be
what people are concerned about the most is healthcare. Marcus
I was gutted to miss Emmadale's and instead have the
Super Bowl on for four and a half hours. Was
it on State TV?

Speaker 8 (01:42:53):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
I was on TV Indea because it was going to
be on Spark Sport.

Speaker 19 (01:42:56):
I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:59):
Marcus. I worked in the health system on the West
coast southard of the thirty years, retired in twenty eighteen,
so I basically watched the decline of our health when
Nashville was in power for nine years before Labor came in.
Jonathan Common was minister and I believe hen his party
started the rot. They penny pinched and stopped most of
the infras maintenance on infrastructure, save money, and Labor came

(01:43:20):
in and tried to rescue it, but the damage had
been done unfortunately. Marcus, A possible topic for one of
his shows could be great events that no longer exist
in New Zealand. Example would be the Nissan Mobile Wellington
Street Race, Thank You, twelve away from eleven money, Miss

(01:43:46):
Marcus welcome discussing combining with Australia. Is that something people want?
And the answer seems yes. Also a little bit of
a talk about the Super Bowl, big event. I don't
know where it ranks as far as events sort of watched.

(01:44:10):
I presume there is internationally a lot of international interests
in it these days. I don't know what the viewer
figures do year on year for the Super Bowl. I
know they're always talking about viewer figures for baseball, and
it seems as though for American football it seems to
be going quite well. I don't know that it's what

(01:44:30):
I suspect, but yeah, they were Kansas City were dismantled,
but mainly it's about and I don't know that what
would need to happen, but you do get the idea,

(01:44:53):
and I think it was in the polls reflected tonight
that people are pretty low, low, like I've never heard
people being low before war. We've got a brand new government,
only a year and a bit of power, and I

(01:45:16):
mean people normally give you political parties a honeymoon of
a couple of terms, but this one has seemed to
have very little.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
Love.

Speaker 3 (01:45:27):
I don't know what's happened. That's for other people to
discuss what's happened with them, but there doesn't seem to
be the love for them. And you have your own
reasons for that. I love polishes. I always come and say, well,
it's just a poll. It's just a snapshot in time.
Polls go up and down, and after a while you

(01:45:49):
want people worried out where they're going to be re
elected to parliament next time. Anyway, I say when I
start the air with a couple of texts. Marcus rowing
is for when the outboard breaks down. Runnings for when
you've been chased, otherwise just a waste of energy. Barger
Australia better off too, and you sit into two separate
states and let us in the mainland get on with it. Cheers,
JJ Waypiata, listen to your show too much lately. You're

(01:46:12):
keeping this old pincher up. Too late, Marcus, I feel
the right said. Insurance costs are sucking the lifeblood of
the income the average of New Zealand. It would be
great if the government took could look at a clampdown
on these costs. Well, that's what they want to do
with the water, but no one seemed to want that idea.
Of course that was going to be the plan. That's

(01:46:33):
why you're right to throw the roof. It's all about
your pipes. But too late now. Joining Australia is as
mad as if Canada was joining the USA. What still
might happen Marcus? Becoming part of Australia worries? Yeah, not

(01:46:53):
sure what you are smoking? What if you always say
what are you smoking? Such a banal thing to say.
There is a suburban hobart called Otago. Thank you, get
in touch. You want to good evening? Make it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 12 (01:47:13):
Good evening. Yeah, nineteen sixty I paid sixty pounds, jumped
on the longeran hour and went to Australia.

Speaker 3 (01:47:21):
Hello, did take three nights?

Speaker 12 (01:47:24):
Three nights yep? And two days later I was earning
treble for money. I was earning back here on the
farm twenty seven pounds ten a week, ten shillings ten
and six months was tax five pound that cost me
for my board. I had ten pounds in my pocket

(01:47:45):
and ten pounds into the bank.

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
Goodness, what were you doing in there? What was your job?

Speaker 12 (01:47:51):
I ended up doing a spray painting and in a factory,
and then I ended up welding in a factory. I
truck drove for a while in Sydney, and then I
jumped on a truck and went to Brisbane and ended
up in the harvesting fields over there, and eventually came
back to New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:48:10):
Great, what were your harvesting?

Speaker 12 (01:48:13):
I had on the downing downs or the grain and
what have you day and night as long as the
weather went yep. And then I came back to New
Zealand and spent thirty years contract harvesting as I was
running to supplement the farm income.

Speaker 17 (01:48:26):
Here where's your farm?

Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
Where was your farm?

Speaker 12 (01:48:28):
Meg Wife, brah North Henrbury, Oh yeah, yep? Yeah, And
then I flew in ninety sixty five, I flew assessor
from Melbourne up to Darwen and back out through Westerners
well nearly Western Australia, and back in the order of

(01:48:49):
irrigation scheme was just being built. And went back to
Melbourne and when I got home, I gave a slide
show of the Young Farmer's Club and of my trip,
and I ended up by saying, the best thing that
could ever happen to New Zealand because we become a
state of Australia.

Speaker 3 (01:49:08):
You're a visionary mag That was That was.

Speaker 12 (01:49:11):
That was not the right thing to say at that
particular stage, but I still believe it. And when those
idiots got in the power in the mid ahees and
tip this country upside down, it's been a downhill run
ever since.

Speaker 3 (01:49:23):
You're talking about are you talking about are you talking
about Rogeromics or the taking away of the farmer's subsidies?

Speaker 12 (01:49:30):
Oh well, it was my whole package, the whole package,
and ever since it's been a downhill pair of skids.
And I think joining Australia eventually will be inevitable as
a state.

Speaker 3 (01:49:46):
As long as they'll have us, as long.

Speaker 12 (01:49:49):
As they'll have us. Yep, yep. Well it's not that,
it's we're going to need them. That's how I see it,
because from a defense point of view, from every point
of view that I can see, at the moment, this
country is on a downhill pair of skids.

Speaker 3 (01:50:05):
Did you get your part of when you're in Australia?

Speaker 16 (01:50:09):
No?

Speaker 13 (01:50:09):
No.

Speaker 12 (01:50:09):
I got my pilot's license in nineteen fifty eight of
the Kennembury Air Club at what age eighteen? Virtually the
day I was old enough to get my license. I
got my license.

Speaker 3 (01:50:23):
Do you still fly?

Speaker 13 (01:50:24):
Meg?

Speaker 16 (01:50:26):
No?

Speaker 12 (01:50:27):
It's like my aeroplane is still down and christ By
trying to get the fly out, but they're not being
very cooperative. It's a little paper cup zk BNL and
it's still flying. I got my license to.

Speaker 3 (01:50:41):
Who's not been cooperative? The feeds, the government?

Speaker 12 (01:50:45):
Kenebary air Club. Well, I've literally got nobody that's available
to go up with me these days. I wouldn't mind.
I've asked astron I was eighty years old and I'm
eighty seven now or today, you know, I sort of
keep asking if it ever comes to Nuors somewhere, i'd
have to go flying in so do.

Speaker 3 (01:51:05):
You need another person to go beside you.

Speaker 12 (01:51:08):
Yeah, i'd have to because I gave up my license.

Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
I didn't realize that. Oh yeah, i'd go with you,
but I haven't got I haven't got my license, so
I would be no use.

Speaker 17 (01:51:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:51:19):
But let's say I've see in New Zealand at the
moment it is inevitable we will become pain with Austroasia.

Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
You know, there's been a lot of people's a lot
of people have seen. They have quite strong view. I've
never really thought much about it, but yeah, Meg, I
appreciate what you've got to say. Marcus. How come no
one is talking about Winston been asleep at the way
and the cooks off to see China all on coc watch. Marcus.

(01:51:49):
I say that those I say they should cut those well,
I don't see what you're saying, Darryl. I say they
should cut those billies off down and Wellington, join them
to Australia and let the rest of us fix this country.

(01:52:10):
You're not in the country to be so to spirited.
Boy boy, where's the hope? James? And is Marcus welcome?

Speaker 5 (01:52:21):
Yeah? Hi, Marcus, I love your show. I was just
calling about you're talking about working in Australia and New
Zealand County of the State of Australia. Yes, yeah, you know,
I worked all pretty much in every state in Australia
and I sort of think about it as key. We say, oh,

(01:52:44):
let's move to Australia. It's gonna be great, you know,
a lot of money. But it's sort of I look
at it as it's five different New Zealand's over there.
It's like every state is different. The wages are a
lot different. You know, say, if you have worked in
Tasmania as chef, I probably am more in New Zealand

(01:53:08):
than I would in Tasmania, you know, and.

Speaker 3 (01:53:16):
Go for what is it, James, Is it just a
population thing?

Speaker 5 (01:53:21):
Well, yeah, possibly, you know. And I've worked in sort
of Queensland as well, and if you go to rural Queensland,
you know, the wages in New Zealand are probably better
here than if you're in sort of unless you're in
the mines. Maybe yeah, you know, they have you know,
the shops closed on Sunday in Queensland and it's yeah,

(01:53:44):
I don't know. You sort of can't just say I'm
going to move from your town to Australia. I'm going
to spend a lot of money. It's like every state
is different, you know, I'd say probably New Zealand's better
than South Australia, Tasmania, possibly rural Queensland, you know, initiated
Western Australia and New South Wales. If you can find
a house to living. Yeah, it's I've known I was

(01:54:08):
not so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:54:10):
I guess it's probably people. Yeah, look, yeah, I think
what you're saying is interesting. When you walked it worked
in all those different states you're mainly shifting.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
Is that right?

Speaker 12 (01:54:21):
That's right?

Speaker 5 (01:54:22):
Yes, yeah, and you know I mean, and don't get
me wrong, the money is a lot better in Australia.
You know, you go to sort of to the mind
in Queensland or Western Australia. Yeah you're any one hundred
grand a year. But if you're in average Tasmanian or
South Australian. You know, I've work in South Australia and

(01:54:42):
be honest, the money is better in Auckland or Wellington
than it is an adult Ahia.

Speaker 3 (01:54:49):
Because you think in places like Tasmania, if you're trying
to attract shifts, you'd have to pay them more because
it's the smaller. Yeah, I can't quite work out what
would govern that.

Speaker 5 (01:54:58):
But yeah, it's funny. I mean, I don't know. I
mean I just sort of think of Kiwi saying let's
move to Australia. But you sort of have to think
about them in Every state is different. Like I've work
in Queensland and then gone to South Australia and they're
they're wearing cowboy boots in cowboy hats and they ever
heard of Bill of Wong? And you know, you go
to Queensland, it's all surfing and yes, I know it's

(01:55:21):
a vast country and the wages are really different ereverre
you go. Yeah, it's sort of like five different New Zealands.

Speaker 3 (01:55:29):
I'm hearing you, thanks James. I think what's happening. A
lot of people are a lot of the young people,
young professionals are moving there because they've graduated here and
they've seen no options there, so they're going to Australia.
They're on the big coin because they're the jobs that
people are seeking people for a lot of people are
now texting This text sums up what a lot of

(01:55:49):
people are saying. I'm just try to read this. Marcus
I wouldn't say we are needed to about New Zealand.
Certainly a lot of love for this country, but it
has changed significantly. Get John keyback in charge. Wow, Keys,

(01:56:17):
he'd probably up for another gay round, because then that's
love him. Marcus. I'm on the super and last year
worst ever. Rates increase forty and a half percent, insurance increase,
barely affordable power going up regularly. Food prices increased, especially
basics like butter. I'll try and keep my house and

(01:56:39):
hope for a change of government. It's all about the water,
that's your rates.

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
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