His unusual crouching stance (19 February 2025)

21 people were killed on this day in 1938 - but can you remember what happened?

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
That'd be hump Day just about over. Welcome, well, welcome
to Wednesday, nineteenth February, Marcus till twelve are they're expecting
mass of thunder and hail and central land up the
coast south Ganaby Gangery. If that's happening with you, I
want to weather report asap right now. Let us know
if it's come through. Seems like it arrived twenty four
hours early, big rain yesterday, mess of flooding around Lumsden,

(00:33):
clearing up the bikeway. If you've got some deeps, if
you've got a thunder lightning happening now, let me know.
Or giant hale. I don't know how big giant hale gets,
but you know it's giant hale. Oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty also too, on the Facebook page tonight,
that plane lended. We've talked much about this. No one

(00:53):
believed it was possible. The last of the Hercules has lended.
It's landed at Wigram into a field, so it hasn't
landed on Ester but it's landed on a field. If
you were there, there seemed to be a fairly good
crowd there, did a touch and goll gorgeous day there,
then went back around and landed plenty of room. Didn't

(01:13):
look sketchy at all. Then taxied round and they got
off and there were hugs and it was quite a
moving ceremony. So the video of that is on the
Facebook page. If you're Johnny on the spot, if you're
an eyewitness at that, let me know, because a lot
of people said it can't land there, there's no airport.
But what there is is there's the field next to

(01:33):
the Aviation museum and the plane landed there and it's
going into the aviation museum. It was incredibly moving. Now,
why was that not in our state? Broadcaster Tonight, Absolute history,
Absolute history. Maybe it was. I couldn't see it anyway.
I don't even know what the field's called. It's the
Canterbury blowcart Club, but it wasn't blowcarting. It was the

(01:57):
herculing Let gorgeous plane, touch and go back around. Just gentle, Oh,
fantastic to watch. So go watch you all of that.
I watched about twelve minutes. They came off, there were hugs,
It's quite moving. I'm pretty sure that's the last time
any hercules will fly. I think the ones are already
up in the one at blend Him's. This was the

(02:18):
last touchdown. Now it goes into the Air Force Museum
and they'll keep it going. I suppose. I don't know
what will happen when it's a shape. It can't keep
flying it There we go. It's going to be the museum.
It's going to be hows for go and watch that
on Facebook. If you saw that or want to comment
on that, I'd like to hear about you from you,
about you on next to the crematorium. Didn't know the

(02:38):
old crematorium on Vickery's Road. Goodness, Oh there's the chimney
getting touch people. If you want to start the whole
discussion tonight about people love a discussion about a hercules.
So that landed today, you might have lived in wigroom.
You might have been able to see that. I wouldn't
mind knowing how many people were there and what was interesting.

(03:02):
And I watched the video quite intently. There was a
big five yellow fire trucks and as soon as they
landed they took off. I presume they were on secondment
from krozger Gport. They must have come across just for
the landing, then raced back. Very well planned, very well plotted,
very well thought out, so well donder all those people

(03:24):
they are. I've never been to an aviation museum in
my life. Bad experience at motet, never been back.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
But if.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
You saw that, yay, very moving anyway enough for me
about that. Some of you will have been there, And
I'm disappointed and couldn't tell you yesterday it was on.
We had no full warning. I'd warned you last week.
But there we go. This is the last of you.
Endeavor Hercules landing and Gomburger into the shed. Fix it up,
keep the engines going. Who knows what they'll do with it?

(03:55):
Of course I sound excited, don't they? By the way,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty the other thing always
liked to hit you with a bit of history today,
start with a quiz Quizzy wizzy woo. Today in New
Zealand history, one of our worst yet least know and

(04:16):
disasters happened. Don't google it. Twenty killed more than twenty
killed this day in nineteen thirty eight. What was it?
It means? Let me see if you know. Don't google it,
but just if you want to guess. S ring up
and tell me what do you think happened this day
in nineteen thirty eight. Yeah, be curious to know, if

(04:39):
you know. I'd never known much about it and did
some research a few years back, and I'm curious to
if you can actually guess that one oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty or what disaster happened, and it'd be
the top twenty worst disasters in this country, but a
particularly unusual I guess form of disaster. So you might

(05:01):
talk a bit about that. Let me know if you
can guess what that was? Phone that through eight hundred
eighty ten eighty coming in fast and strong tonight. Some
of you will know, but some of you will guess.
I like wrong guesses to start with, makes it more exciting.
Twenty one kill, I think it was actually in the
end there was twenty two killed. There was someone that

(05:21):
was killed later on as often as the case. Umm, oh,
eight hundred and eighty thirty and nineteen No, what was it? Marcus? Hi, Marcus.
We have just come off a fixed home rate loan
and seen the interest at five point four to nine

(05:42):
for one year. I'm a very happy woman. It would
have been seven point two five before last year or
something like that. I'm a very happy woman today. We
have been on seven point twenty five before. That's oozery

(06:02):
you Marry Marcus. Welcome, good evening today.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
How are you tonight?

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Good?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Thank you Mary. How are you all right? All good?

Speaker 5 (06:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (06:10):
Oh good good.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
I'm thinking, is is it a train wreck?

Speaker 7 (06:15):
It doesn't sound like enough fatalities, but there was a
train that went off bridge or something or tongue Awai.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Tangawai was big. I
think tangawa But Tangawai was in the fifties. This is
nineteen thirty one, murray, but thank you. Get in touch
if you can guess thirteen past eight. Wasn't a train,
wasn't a train? Wasn't a fire? Yeah? No, one's got

(06:43):
it via the text high train derailment.

Speaker 8 (06:45):
No.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
I thought he was going to go hide, but went
tang Awai. Tangawai. No, that was nineteen fifty three, Marcus.
Train crashed down south result of drunken train driver. Yes,
they gave him hard labor. I think I think he
died in prison. Wasn't good if you know, you know, oh,
eight hundred and eighty we like a guessing game eight

(07:06):
hundred eighty eighteen Eightian nineteen ninety two to text, what
was it this day? Thirty eight, nineteen thirty eight? How
well you know your disasters? I'm not quite sure. I'm
so fixated on them. Not in a good way either.

(07:27):
Let me know if you think you can guess fourteen
past eight oh eight hundred eighty ten eight Chris, Chris Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 9 (07:38):
Ja Marcus.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
What do you reckon? It was?

Speaker 7 (07:43):
Judging for the body account, I'm thinking it's probably the
Strongman mind disaster.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
I think it was twenty eight. It was sixty five,
a run of mine. What year was Strongman?

Speaker 7 (07:55):
I don't know, to be honest, I know it was
early twentieth century, So that's me guess.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, it's not that, Chris, but thank you for that.

Speaker 10 (08:04):
Judith Marcus, welcome, Oh greasing Marcus.

Speaker 11 (08:09):
Was it the an anger who earthquake?

Speaker 2 (08:12):
He died? And I don't know how by the way
for that last guy, Nineteen were killed at Rinunga, so
his number was just about right. Okay, when was the
when was a Nunger?

Speaker 12 (08:24):
Who are.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Well?

Speaker 11 (08:26):
I've driven through there a couple of times, and the
railway went through there and it completely annihilated the the
railway lines here.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Just three died in nunger Who I'm talking twenty one
with this one, Judith, But thank you Rose, Marcus welcome.

Speaker 11 (08:46):
Oh hi Marcus.

Speaker 13 (08:47):
Hey.

Speaker 14 (08:47):
I was wondering whether it was the Nate earthquake.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Oh no, I think a lot more died than that. Similarly, Yeah,
but I think there was. I think it was in
their fifties or sixties, Napier earthquake. It wasn't a quake.
It wasn't a quake, and it wasn't a mining disaster. Okay,
although although hang on, okay, I think it was the
same year. Oh no, it was seven seven years, seven

(09:14):
years later, So yeah, that was seven years beforehand. Keep
your guesses coming through. If you've got to say something
about that. Someone said the Hindenburg question, Dunedin ooh, someone
said the Tennery explosion or the Fairy disaster, Fairy Fairy disaster.

(09:40):
Get in touch. You've got a guess about that. When
I will reveal this halfway, I won't kind of prolong
that for too long. By the way, if you saw
the plane land today, let me know how many tune
up for that one. Getting a lot of triggers a
lot of reminiscence. Marcus. The anung Who earthquake was sixty
nine form memory. I live in Greymouth. Remember all the
brick chimneys crashing down lying on the ground, you know,
that's why we used to head for the doorway to

(10:00):
shoot it from chimneys coming through the roof. Think they
got rid of most of the chimney's chimneys, John, it's Marcus.
Good evening and welcome.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
Yeah, Marcus, I think it was the Brindowins bush crush.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yes, that's right now that I think that was in
the when what what year? I have said nineteen thirty eight, Well, no,
I think it was nineteen. I think that was in
the I think that was in the sixties, wasn't it.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
I don't have enough the head busses then all the
bran Duwins, John, but I'm not quite right Mcmarcus.

Speaker 9 (10:30):
Welcome, okay, mate.

Speaker 10 (10:32):
I was just finding that it was the Branno mine disaster.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Oh yeah, that's a good point too, because that was
that was early on, wasn't it.

Speaker 10 (10:39):
It might have been like eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 12 (10:41):
It could be out a few years.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, I think that's eighteen ninety, but there's quite a few.
I think about sixty died in that.

Speaker 15 (10:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (10:48):
Yeah, I was written the book on age over Christmas.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Oh now yeah, okay, I've got that book.

Speaker 15 (10:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (10:55):
Branner Mine disaster.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
I think it is.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, and I know the guy that wrote that. It's
pretty grim is.

Speaker 10 (11:04):
Yeah, mam leans it to me.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Sheer coaster.

Speaker 10 (11:08):
No, no, that we're benched for Angela.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Oh yeah, okay, that wasn't that. But it's always good
to talk ABOUTNY disasters. Actually, which will we go and
do next there?

Speaker 16 (11:16):
Then?

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, Chris, Chris, it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 9 (11:22):
Hey, cheated though, I'm just walking inside.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
You can walk in sern are you?

Speaker 12 (11:30):
Are you Google to figure it out?

Speaker 2 (11:34):
That's disappointing.

Speaker 17 (11:36):
Yeah, so I'm guessing that's the first thing.

Speaker 12 (11:40):
They came a flash flat on the WIO stream at
cop Far in New Zealand.

Speaker 8 (11:47):
But nineteen fear nineteen fty.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
Eight Destroidal railway construction workers killing and one woman.

Speaker 13 (11:54):
Mark for Quinn.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, they're building it. They're building a concrete viaduct and
there was a work camp and the rain came up
and they all got switched to their death.

Speaker 9 (12:04):
Yeah, that's horrible, and.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
No one ever heard of it, because there is a
there is a monument to it, but it's hard to
get to and no one kind of talks about it.

Speaker 12 (12:15):
True.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, but that was right. But thank you for gooding that, Chris.
I appreciate that. There we go. That's a busy start
to the old show. Yeah, cope, war for a public
works camp. I think it's from our only fatal mud slide.
There was Abbotsford, but I only anyone died at Abbotsford.
And no one likes that guy for googling it. Oh,
that guy's a party pooper, someone says.

Speaker 18 (12:38):
So.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Yeah, they're building the railway between Hawks Bay and Gisbon.
Of course that railway doesn't go anymore, which is even
a poor testimony to those people's sacrifice. But that's rail
for you. All those logs could be coming down that
rail line, but I noticed chuck him on the road.
We don't have a whole night on disasters. I wonder
what the next disaster is going to be. I'm not

(13:01):
going to suggest that it's a topic, but it doesn't.
It doesn't make you wonder if you're a catastrophist. Mind
a lot of the articles I'm reading about, you know,
which way the world will end with Trump in charge.
Will it be a plague, Will it be financial ruin?
Will it be a war? Will it be the nuclear bombs?

Speaker 5 (13:21):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (13:21):
What is the next big disaster? It's got to be
the furies going down? Doesn't It got to be the fairies?
Although I'll tell you what my fury crossing there's brilliant,
so good out the back on the Kataki under on
the sun lounges that the magician. The magician was back
because rabbit was sick the day before. It was so rough.

(13:42):
I think the rabbit had thrown up and the magician
had thrown up. It wasn't good, but the magician was back.
And mind you, with magic these days, a lot of
magic is actually tying balloons. I don't know what the
magicians feel about that. You think, hang on, I'm supposed
to be a magician. Now most of my work is
tying balloons. But what the magician would do is you'd

(14:03):
tie the balloons to kids that had been chosen to
be the assistant for some of the stunts. So they
tied balloons, but we didn't get the balloon to laughter
because I guess you thought people would kind of play
with the balloons and make squeaky noises to pop them.
So I thought that was smart John at smartus. Good evening.
Welcome John.

Speaker 19 (14:23):
Yes, I think the disaster you might be referring to
was was a Ministry of Works camp was flooding in
I think war or at the east coast there somewhere just.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
By Maha, my heir here, Yeah, did.

Speaker 19 (14:43):
You don't know much about it?

Speaker 5 (14:44):
Was?

Speaker 19 (14:45):
I only told about it at school? What were you
the big disasters?

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Where were you at school?

Speaker 19 (14:54):
At school?

Speaker 2 (14:54):
And oh, okay, you know I didn't realize that.

Speaker 19 (14:57):
Well.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
I thought you might have been in Mahia, John, Nice
to hear from you. Someone's texted three thousand sheep were
lost in the valley in the Kope war for a flood.
Three thousand sheep that'd be floating out to sea. It's
a lot of sheep, Marcus. The next disaster is the
National Party chairs Patrick good dunk. It's become a punchline

(15:23):
to a joke. Now, hasn't it that happened? Quick? Wow?
There is a monument, but you can't get to the monument,
which I think is bad. Anyway, that was a big
frenetic session of talk back. Now I'm waiting for the
thunder and lightning and heavy hail in central Otago or

(15:46):
in Kendby. That's happened. Let me know. Also, if you
saw the Hercules land at Wigram in the field, that's
quite They did a touch and go and they went
back around and then landed at beautiful landing, a lot
of people watching, and then the engines would tune off
for the last time ever. I don't know what happens,

(16:08):
and I don't know if you, I don't know if
there's some I don't know if a plane has just
taken its last trip, if there's some ceremonial thing you do,
like you remove the joy. Look, I don't know what
there was. I was watching it, but the photographing was
quite a distance away. I was singing, watched the protocol. Marcus, Mima, Dad,
come from Copoua framhe my aunties and uncles still live there.

(16:29):
Sarah Marcus, my mom, my eighty seven year old mum,
and three plane spotting sons observed herk OH one make
its final landing. Special great flying. I hope they've got
the kids out of school for that. I mean, that's
as much of aviation history as you ever seen brilliant,

(16:54):
get in touch, marks till twelve, Full of the wonders.
I've talked back tonight eight hundred and eighty eighteen eighty
nine two nine two to text. There's breaking news. I'll
bring that to you. I'm friendly scuts or they've had
to kill all the ninety whales stranded at Tasmania. False
killer whales. Yeah, Arthur River the usual story tried to

(17:23):
reflect challenging condition. Didn't want to go back home. Euthanase
always seems a bit grim, doesn't it. Since the euthanase
will be carried out using firearms, no kidding, what else
would you use? Twenty seven past eight o'clock. Governet's Marcus Welcome, Hi, Gavin, welcome.

Speaker 13 (17:53):
Hello.

Speaker 10 (17:54):
I just some time called.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yeah, god, that's good for NASA phone met you.

Speaker 10 (17:59):
Oh yeah, yeah. We saw the plane dive and I
couldn't believe it and went over twice. Yeah what We
were in Sydenham and it just comes one way and
went back the other way. And my mate, he's actually
an ex pilot who used to fly little planes. He
knew what the plane was.

Speaker 9 (18:18):
It was awesome.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
Did you know? Had you heard the show? And we
talked to depth about what was about the head? Keep up?
This is big news because there's not.

Speaker 10 (18:28):
Even because it was really low where we were actually
sitting in the bar and it come over really low
and it just flew around. That is so awesome.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Did you say you're sitting in the bar.

Speaker 10 (18:41):
Yeah, we're having a drink one the afternoon?

Speaker 5 (18:44):
What bar.

Speaker 10 (18:47):
Sandwich?

Speaker 20 (18:47):
Hotel?

Speaker 13 (18:48):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Is it called the sandwich?

Speaker 3 (18:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (18:53):
Yeah, they come across.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
What's got such a night? Was it called such a
waking name?

Speaker 10 (18:59):
I don't know, because it is? But they reckon the plane?
Won't someone else will get that plane, won't. I won't
sit down and nothing way over do it. Someone else
will get it somewhere overseas will get it, and they'll
use it for.

Speaker 12 (19:14):
Other stuff as well.

Speaker 10 (19:15):
Apparently, what of you whether it's true or false?

Speaker 2 (19:18):
It is that what you heard in the pub? Given?

Speaker 10 (19:21):
Yes, and I know the guys who are exploited it,
and they said no, I'm pretty sure they won't just because.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Given given everyone in the pubs and ex pilot.

Speaker 10 (19:33):
Oh yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
Well not really, I'm ex piloting between jobs. Everyone in
the pubs and the ex pilot for goodness sake. So
did you say it's called the Is it really called
the Sandwich Hotel?

Speaker 21 (19:48):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (19:49):
Was it not on Google?

Speaker 4 (19:51):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (19:52):
And it's in Sydn.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I'll look into that. By the way, bt W Luxon
wants to get his favorability, he should have been involved
with that. On the plane and walking out of that
did the shake and house. That's a big thing for
our forces, the last of the planes. He's not plane aware.
People love a plane story. If he was there, Oh yeah,
I welcome you know, and I don't even know what

(20:18):
you do, but that's what that's what people want to
be a part of history. Still can't find the Sandwich
bar Jeff Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
Marcus. I just hadn't listen to listen to the show
for a while and switched and heard you're talking about
I knew executive what it was. The cop My interest
is that we have the lease up of the rail
from our here up to the Copple Viaduct and just
short of the monument. You can't quite get to the

(20:52):
monument now because it's because the track is so damaged.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
But damage damaged by what.

Speaker 21 (21:02):
Look a lot of it would be slash. Should it
be fair to say, don't say so? Slash come down,
block the colvits. Everybody blames kel It's not quite the case.
You know, Slash was the biggest unforeseen consequence of forestry
and it's caused a lot of damage in that section

(21:23):
of railway between between Maheir and Gismon. But anyway, we
do have the use of that line and we can
get you close to the monument. You're dead right.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
The monument is totally overgrown now and it's very hard
to see and it's about a two kilometer walk from
where we can get to. But we've got plans to
actually sort.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Of Jeff, was the monument always designed for pedestrians to
walk from the road or was it designed for people
to access from the rail.

Speaker 18 (21:55):
No?

Speaker 5 (21:56):
From the road, Okay, because the road it's so there's
a belly that sort of goes up and this was
the coppwire for a stream that came down and was
the reason for the desire. So the rail is on
one side, the work camp was on the other side,
and it was too low to not that they knew

(22:16):
it at the time, but it was too low to
the river and they didn't see the level that the
river could actually sort of it was a tremendous flash flood.
And it was two o'clock in the morning. There was
a huge downpour and it broke a storage down. It
was above the river in the copper of a stream,

(22:37):
and it was almost like a tsunami, and it came
down and it just hit the camp, hit the lower
they hit the lower part of the camp, which was
the single men's quarters, and just literally it was like tsunami.
It just actually swept twenty one guys out of their
beds and down the river. The married men's quarters. They

(23:01):
were okay, but of course it was just three minutes
absolute indemonium. And the next day it was just chaos.
You know, they were just bodies and fences and gods,
it was terrible.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Did you did you say you're planning to liberate the monument?
Is that going to become accessible again?

Speaker 5 (23:20):
Is that yeah? Yeah, yeah, we've got to know we're
going to sort of get up there very shortly. And actually,
because it's got hardly overgrown, it is so where we
get to on our little rail journey where you can't
quite see it, So it's a bit of a walk.
It's start to took along with a walk further from
where we can get to to to see the monument,
but we want to actually sort of clear around the monument,

(23:43):
so it's actually brought back to its klory.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Are you involved in rail tours there? Is that what
you're saying?

Speaker 22 (23:49):
No?

Speaker 5 (23:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah without sort of sort of blowing.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
The trumpet on on bikes.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yes, okay, because me rail bikes as what we are.
So but anyway, you know that's been the thrust of
that journey is to actually because that's the whole story
behind behind this little trip that we've got.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Okay, it's a bit, it's a bit of distance. Do
you go all the way from Gisbone south on that
we go?

Speaker 20 (24:22):
No?

Speaker 5 (24:23):
No, we go north from Marhire peninsula of a little place
called Obatana and you go about sort of beady en
kilometers north to as far as close as we can
get to the tragedy side.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Good on you for tying something quite good with old
rail with a bit of history. That's brilliant.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
Yeah yeah, No, it's look that the thing will never
be reinstated for trains again because of basically Gabriel actually
just absolutely destroyed the sudden end down the Naper end.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
And also the Toedo worm had churn through the piles.
Hadn't it wrecked the piles a whole.

Speaker 5 (25:06):
On the holes? Yep? And look slash is a big
part of the reason too. I always feel sorry for
Cuba because they gets, you know, slammed for not looking
out of the track. It wasn't next to game at all.

(25:27):
It was basically us.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
We stopped chasing it, you know, to who are your tourists,
your tourists local or international?

Speaker 5 (25:34):
Fifty to fifty, Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
It goes good. You're busy.

Speaker 5 (25:40):
Yeah, the first year we've only been going for six years.
The first year was brilliant, and then that was the
year before COVID, and then COVID sort of send everything sideways.
But then the cyclone was particularly bad for Gismond because
you couldn't you know, that connection through to two maybe

(26:02):
was closed for about five months and that sort of
stopped people coming because you have to you have two
around your head to go all the way back.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
And around your website looks great.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're sort of there's the only one
in the world. That's that's our claim to fame, and
it's it's it's pretty because.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
All the others, all the others, all the others, are
golf carts, aren't they? Y qright white? Because there's two
golf there's three golf cut. You've got double bikes sort
of with a connected haven't you yeah?

Speaker 5 (26:31):
Okay, well yeah yeah yeah, And people say, you know what,
don't you do the gold cuts and you know we
want to be sort.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Of bikes don't go, don't go e bikes? Have you
done that?

Speaker 8 (26:42):
No?

Speaker 5 (26:42):
I had had to go e bikes. We didn't originally originally,
but of course had to. You know, it's about fifty fifty,
you know, fifty fifty percent take the e bikes and
fifty percent take the standard bikes.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
And do you go on the railways? Did you go
on the way?

Speaker 5 (27:00):
Yes, well Gisbone. Gisbane's lucky like that because you know
we don't get too cold, you know, not as called
as he goes down there down the bottom it's.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Twenty out degree stage. If I've got a rumble, look,
that's great for you guys that don't know. He was
so kind to ring Gisbane rail bikes as the webs
sounded like a set up there, didn't it. I'm sorry
about that. Sound like I'm going to mention something and
give him mate some publicy never heard of him. Gisbane
Railbike Adventure. It's a beautiful railway line. And then you go, Jeff, sorry,

(27:36):
I just had you on mute there for a while
the videos, and I suppose to you right near the
rocket launching place too, aren't you.

Speaker 5 (27:43):
Yes, although that's sort of never really works because you
know when they launched, it's always seventy two okay, our window.
You know it's going to be those o'clock on Tuesday,
Well it sort of can be Wednesday twelve o'clock or whatever.
You know, So you've got to be a patient man.
Actually break around and see what love your talk.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
I've got to run, but Jeff, that's been tremendous talking.
Do you thank you? I hate to say it, but
it wouldn't be wrong to start a eight to twelve
tour company. We got to hobbiton then we go on
the bike rail. Then we're what else would we do
up in that part of the country, because after that
woman last night that rung up on the recommendation of
Hobbit and she was she has a cockerhoop about that,

(28:23):
and then we go to the Sandwich bar. There'd be
the South Island version of it wouldn't it. Peter Marcus welcome.

Speaker 9 (28:30):
Yeah, hello Marcus. It's the Sandridge Hotel.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Our sand Ridge sand Ridge.

Speaker 9 (28:36):
Yeah, that's right. Ridge. It's about one hundred meters from
Columbo Street. Also not far from Sydenham Park, which is
a great sporting arena and apparently before it was built,
all when it was built, there was a sand Ridge
somewhere nearby, and so the smart public had decided to

(28:58):
call it that sand Ridge.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Well, everyone that's texted says it's a it's not the
best pub in the world.

Speaker 9 (29:08):
Well, it depends, doesn't it if you want to drink
beer or even wine. I drink wine when I go there.
And incidentally, one of New Zealand's great double all Blacks
used to drink there. He's now dead. It's a funa
named Keith Thompson Hockey All Black.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
And I'm sorry, I said, jeepers, jeepers.

Speaker 9 (29:31):
Yeah, he and his brother and actually Dean tild his
brothers and other sporting people. So yes, it's not I mean,
it's not a fancy pub. It does have the motels
behind it alongside it, and it's pretty popular. You had
a lot of people going there, a.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Lot of pilots are there these days.

Speaker 9 (29:53):
I suppose, is that right?

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Yes, that's what the guy said. They're all pilots. Keith Thompson,
known for his unusual crouching stunt at the crease.

Speaker 9 (30:02):
That's the man, Yes, indeed he He was one of
New Zealand's best hockey players too. He was a brilliant
hockey player who could pass a ball like nobody. But
that's another matter, isn't.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
It sixty Olympics? Nice to hear from you, Peter san
Gridge love to mention a pub, I think I'd liken
the ter of the show is to have every pub
mentioned eventually. That's the great thing about public Oh a
great all Black drank there, or something double International drank there.
Every pub's got a story. Some of the stories aren't

(30:38):
very good, but everyone's got one. Peter, Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 22 (30:42):
Today, Marcus. Dang that fellow, that other Peter just stole
up under Africa Standridge. But never mind. I'm parted diagonally
across from it right at this very moment, and I
was going to draw to everyone's attention the correct name.
I sort of had a giggle to myself. How things
get lost in translation, perhaps, But never mind, it kind

(31:03):
of seems to thee.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
It seems to be in the middle of nowhere.

Speaker 22 (31:07):
Well, yeah, it's not the most salubrious of neighborhoods. I'm
not too far from it myself. It has a wee
bit of a reputation as being a rather hard shot
institution at times.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Imagine ninety bucks a night to stay there, that's reasonable.

Speaker 22 (31:24):
Yeah, I can't imagine that there's any branch of the
Cairo Club out the back, but looking at it. But hey,
the other thing is the other thing that amused me
about all these pilots apparently, and none of them had
really seemed to have the correct idea about the future

(31:45):
of that. Actually, well, it's been pretty well publicized. The
reason I actually landed at Wigram because it's going to
become part of a static display at the Air Force
Museum there. So it was donated to the as it
were donated to that museum, And at this stage, I
think they're going to have to store it outside. They're

(32:06):
in the process of designing, and then we'll build sufficient
hangar space to house it from there on. Apparently that's
that's the story anyway.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
But that's public bars during the day it's not the fact.
It's the self belief, isn't it. Oh No, they're sitting
in overseas, that's what they'll be doing with it.

Speaker 22 (32:24):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't I don't know what
the equivalent.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
I don't know what the.

Speaker 22 (32:28):
Equivalents among airline pilots is. But when I was younger,
there was a we always talked about Chinese secrets, and
perhaps one pilot came in the door and he had
a slightly different version of the story to the pilot
that was already sitting in the pub. And as it
went through, you know, that's what I can be.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
It's going to be a hell of a building for that.
You think they would have got the building because I've
known these planes are going to end for a long
long time. I'm surprised they even't started on the building.

Speaker 22 (32:52):
Yeah, but but I but I mean, yeah, that's true.
But I imagine for most of its life that that
plane has been outside anyway. Yeah, And I think there's
also another plane that they were donated in, some plane
with quite significant history. Somewhere last year they were donated
another plane. And I think therefore the designing a whole

(33:16):
new wing, well, doing a revamp, I think of it
and putting in more hangar space for these particular aircraft.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
On your shaky welcome, it's Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 17 (33:28):
Okay, Marcus. When you were asking about the what happened
on the date? I actually I thought it was the
Valentine's Fire, that's not definitely not No, there's a because
they had a few deaths with it. And also I
don't know if you've ever been around the mount at

(33:49):
Mount on the Neuis and there's a plant there dedicated
to the Rahan Nui, which was a motor launch that
went out on Boxing Day on some somewhere in the
fifties on its maiden voyage. And I believe there was
twenty one on that buy and only one boy survived,

(34:10):
the captain's son survived on that. But I like finding
those those memorial plaques and places. And the next one
I'm going to look for when I managed to go
out my back door at Katkenny is the EC eight
try and find where the DC eight creation in the
ci Mins.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, there is a memorial for that, and it's on
that road on the other on the other side of
the Rangers, I think on the Tierra has side. I
think I have looked for that. That's sad about the run.

Speaker 17 (34:42):
Yeah yeah, I haven't even known about it until I
went walking rid on the one day and I saw
that memorial. Yeah but I'm coming over the Timelin's now
hitting into tower. All were they probably truck and trailer
load of tea movements for all those people who buy
tea move But.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Do you sharky, do you actually know it's t MoU stuff?

Speaker 17 (35:05):
Well, could be anything. It's all New Zealand career boxes
and stuff. So yeah, they're making plenty of money, so
I guess. But you know it's got to be something
to do with.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Nice any idiots on the road sharky every day? Great answer,
someone said, Marcus, is tonight's subject dive bars because I've
just turned the radio one? And who did you talk
about the Sandwidge? People seem to know it, dB Marcus
evening welcome.

Speaker 9 (35:39):
I was just watching the Hercules lean a couple of times.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Thanks for those people that film that.

Speaker 9 (35:46):
Of course, Wigram being then next air Force base is
pretty roof on airplane. I've been there to what gliders
take off that those speak of it and it was
used as christ Church or Southland's Guide of Port. But
I had soon had feet to play with, and I
was just watching that I reckon he handles of that
and just a little over five hundred feet, so not

(36:11):
a bad piece of work. The first landing I think
was more of a thump and go as opposed to
a touch and go.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (36:20):
But what I rang about was I've forgotten the name
of the place up north of the line. I was
in another lot one of my many lives. I was
a train controller for that piece of track and I
haven't heard that name in obviously years. So I'm going

(36:42):
up there to go on those bicycles to have a
look at the piece of track I used to control.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Ah, that's one of the greatest stories I've ever heard.

Speaker 16 (36:49):
dB.

Speaker 9 (36:51):
Yeah, So that brought tears to my eyes because I
was up there a couple of years ago and I
was looking at some of the other stations, but I
never thought of cop and I never heard about the
disaster there.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
It's a gorgeous it's a I'll tell you. I'll tell
you a bit about it because I got because I
know the area quite well because of doing documentaries. But
it's amazing because there's a tunnel and you come out
of the tunnel and right when you come out of
the tunnel, the concrete viaduct is just there and it's
a bit like graft And Bridge. It's a poured concrete bridge.

(37:27):
I think it might be one of the first or
the longest port at the time. You know, it's a
significant bridge and wow, yeah, it's beautiful.

Speaker 9 (37:37):
I've got a.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Gorgeous I've got a gorgeous photo of a photo of
it at home, which is unbelievable. But it's a it's
a knockout bridge. It's a shame more people can't see it.

Speaker 10 (37:48):
Well.

Speaker 9 (37:49):
I'm a short story for one of the drivers was
the senior driver at wairo. He was going up to
that tunnel because to be mentioned that I hadn't realized
it was that tunnel one day and he had a
train that had an over gauged load, so he had
to stop at the end of the tunnel and I
think he had a bulldozer of and as he stopped,

(38:11):
all these people came out of the tunnel. And what
had happened is the train control has given people a
position to walk through the tunnel, but forgot there was
a train right so he picks up the telephone and
he goes copraafer and the train controller says, how many
did you get? And he says, it's your lucky day, Bud,

(38:34):
I didn't get any.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Don't they know? Don't they know?

Speaker 9 (38:39):
Tracks for trains no radios in those days or line
side telephones. So once the train had left the previous station,
no where to tell him there's people in the tunnel.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Was it your responsibility when the railway track went over
Gisbon Airport one of only two places in the world
where that happens.

Speaker 9 (39:03):
Yes, yes, I had to get hold of gives in tower,
tell them there's a train expected. And I have a
friend who was an air trip controller Gisbon Tower, I think,
says there was never a problem. We didn't have any
air places. You didn't have any change.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
So you will do you will do that. You will
go on the bike ride.

Speaker 9 (39:27):
Yes, I'm absolutely Oh good, good good, And I'll report
back after I've done it, maybe a month.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
It's a shame they can't get bikes individual bikes that
go on railway tracks. It's shame you've got to join
two bikes together. I can't quite work out how they
could get wheels, but you think they could get individual
bikes because anyway that's fine.

Speaker 9 (39:48):
Because RA is so parochial about tracks. They don't even
use about letting people have fun on them.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Yeah, let's not start d be But thank you, and
I'm looking forward muchly to you going and look up
in fortune. Have to walk across across that vibe under supervision,
and it is beautiful. But I'd be very keen to
get to the get to the monument because it's just
there in the middle of nowhere. When that guy was
talking about slash, he's not talking about guns and roses

(40:19):
se Ya'll leftover stuff from forests or forestry. I guess
you'd say, well, that's a good hour. Gee, a lot
more of those. Good evening, and welcome to you, ll
Manamus Marcus. I hope it's good where you are. If
it's not good, I hope it gets better quick Lee, Well,
soon as the show goes on. Get in touch Hettel

(40:41):
twelve oh eight hundred and eighty eighteen eighty. We are
talking about the mudslip that called all that killed all
those people in nineteen thirty seven. I think at Kopewha
fra other or thirty one or fact check that in
two ticks. We're also talking about the sand Ridge Hotel
and what it's motel? Is it because you can stay

(41:02):
there nineteen thirty eight and also talking with quite a
Christrich focus show and talking about the Hercules that landed
at Wigram and then Sharky came in with how bad
the traffick is and that's always a good thing for
us also, So if you've got something to add to
any of those topics. A lot of people are saying
that the Sandridge Sandridge they were going to demolish that soon.

(41:26):
Sounds like quite a story pub sounds like they had
quite a long and interesting history in Sydenham, So that
might be something you mentioned. All So, I don't know
that guy that drank the drank their played hockey, cricket
and rugby or just hockey and cricket. I think ash
Burton topped out thirty two point one degrees today now

(41:47):
it's twenty. There you go. Marcus was a DC three
that questioned the kaimos. Didn't he say that? Also the
other big plane at the airport for Air Force museums,
the Orione pethe free surveillance aircraft trucked in last year.

(42:12):
There you go. Sand Ridge Pub, not sandwich, no ex parts,
but probably all flying high there. How good was that
guy that texted through yesterday that it was a guy
has made it started vaping and I can't even remember

(42:34):
what the pattern? Yeah, Flip Peter w with the guy's
handle front handle, probably one of us thinking about that today,
one of the great texts. I don't know if he
made it up himself for if it's his own material.
But cheap is what a rip of text? I'm just
doing the search for it pretty slowly. The old search

(42:56):
button on the text in it that doesn't work at all.
How are you going? People? If you want to come
through my name as Marcus welcome. Eight hundred and eighty
ten EAD, nineteen nine to two to text Hedle twelve.
You got something I SHO want to talk about rather
the good topic standing room only. But you might be
just absorbing what people are saying and you might have
something to add, and that's not a problem.

Speaker 5 (43:19):
I wait.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
One hundred and eighty ten nineteen nine two to text
Hedle twelve. The last hour went so good. I don't
even know what we're going to do this hour. Let
it take its own form. I'll keep you updated with
us two. When that happens, I was expecting a lot
of thunder and lightning. That hasn't eventually it, which is disappointing.

(43:40):
Loto is being drawn six million dollars kind the kind
of the right amount?

Speaker 12 (43:47):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Not too much, not too little? Get yourself a villa
somewhere anyway, do come through if you want anything to
add to this. And they've euthanized all the whales in
TASMANI a false killer whale. Yeah, and Philip Polkinghorn's houses

(44:12):
for sale. He was from that trial. But of course
there's no open home because they've got to be desperate
to go and look at that. So yeah, you'd have
to probably show them your bank account to get looked through.
That one. Just putting that out there. Eleven past nine.
If there's something of interest you've got to say or
ring and talk about, would love to hear from you.

(44:35):
I apparently he's a bit more information. They plan to
build a large hangar that will house the Orion, which
is trucked in twelve pieces last year, and the Hercules.
A date of twenty twenty seven is given. I have
quite strong views about museums for machines that are used

(44:56):
to go, whether it be trucks or cars or planes.
Are they museums or are they graveyards? Because they never came,
they're alive. They go on there and ever see them again.
Sometimes I'll watch salvage hunters. There's always people with car

(45:17):
museums or truck museums that can't sustain its selling everything.
I've no I wants to go and see them anyway.
It's kind of heartbreaking. It's a shame. You can't think
there's not some billionaire that will keep all those planes
flying around like the Hercules. All our aviation history has
just all become static. But do get in touch if

(45:42):
you want to add to any of these things. Oh
eight hundred and eight ten and nine two nine two
to text Hittle twelve and you were the last hour
discussion is very very much, And get in touch of
you do anything to add to that or something else.
Who eight hundred eighty ten eighty and those massive thunderstorms.

(46:09):
Oh yes, rain and Warnica, thanks for that. This come
through so expecting. They said before nine o'clock was going
to be their heavy deluge. It's nine o'clock now high
from Ouamadu. Very heavy rain here at the moment, so
it's just coming in. So the tempest has started. I
love a bit of roll in coverage of the weather,

(46:29):
and you want to add to that too, would be nice.
But thirty two degrees in esh Burton today Marcus cyclone
Gabriel made a mess of state Heyweed two after Napier
and the Devil's Elbow. It will always need work. It's
good the guy can still run his bike traps down
the railway. That must have been like it's the railway

(46:50):
wouldn't be as affected with it because it's not. They're probably
pretty easy to remove landslips over it, but you do
get in touch. Thirteen past nine Marcus thoughts on military spending.
I think we need to increase it and worry with

(47:12):
Australian Defense Force use the same models EJ helicopters, jet fighters.
It must be work. Also, the class of ship for
Navy makes logistics of parts easier. Neighbors can be infandagual.
I'd be worried getting too close to Trump. He's blaming
Ukraine for starting the war and we're part of Orcus.
Oh no, I think you want to lie low for

(47:33):
a while. It's it blows over Otherwise I guess involved
in a war we don't want to be involved with.
It's not looking good. That's just my opinion. It's not
company policy. Good evening in it's Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 23 (47:50):
From Gisbone. When I was a young fella, the railcard
dropped us off and I think for anglong and we
camp down to the track and we camp somewhere near
the monument and we actually walk to the monument. Probably
got picked up at Oba Tama.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
And the other thing is is that with scouts or
a claustrip or.

Speaker 23 (48:14):
Oh just just a couple of mates. Yeah. And the
other thing is that about maybe about thirty years ago,
the steam train left Gisbon with about eight carriages on
and they went to we went to Wyraw and we
had lunch at Wyraw and when they came back, they

(48:35):
stopped at Black's Beach and took a lot of photos
and then came to Opatama and everybody got off and
walked to the beach because there used to be a
railway station there or platform. And then we came up
to the memorial and they stopped there and everybody everybody

(48:56):
took photos and what have you. Marcus, OK, yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
So would Opatama be the closest station, probably to the
way that the monument is. Would that be right?

Speaker 8 (49:06):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (49:07):
Yes?

Speaker 23 (49:08):
And that track I'm not too sure if it's where
you go through there. If it's private land, you know,
from there's a metal road you can head towards there, yes,
but after that it's probably private land.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Good point, okay, But I don't think.

Speaker 23 (49:26):
They can stop you walking on the track.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Ah, well, not if there's no trains. I guess that's fine.

Speaker 23 (49:31):
But I think the Canoe and Tramping Club and some
of the clubs walk through the organized thing and walk
through there sometimes.

Speaker 22 (49:39):
Market Oh, that.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
Would be worth doing, wouldn't it Because it's beautiful. It's
a beautiful and it's a shame that that trip's not
it's a beautiful bit of railway line.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
You dry? Are you and Gisbet at the moment?

Speaker 23 (49:49):
In Yes, we live in Gisbone.

Speaker 12 (49:51):
Yes dry, yes?

Speaker 23 (49:54):
Tis and warm.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Okay, unseasonably warm.

Speaker 23 (49:59):
Yeah, it has been this last few days. It's normally
hot like this in the summertime, but we've had a
real bad summer here this year with a lot of rain, oh,
okay and cool.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Has it affected the orchardists and the growers.

Speaker 23 (50:15):
No, I think the squash has been pretty good. I
was at the squash factory this morning and they tell
me that might run till Normally it's by March, it's
all over, but they're talking about running till April. And
Leader Brand do watermelons and they reckon it's the best
season they've ever had for watermelons.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Oh, they're great the watermelon. The quality of the watermelons
and the souper markets have been great. What are you
and the squash thing for? Are you just? Is it
part one of your responsibilities?

Speaker 23 (50:45):
No? No, no, I'm retired. But you can buy squash
from the copy understand.

Speaker 9 (50:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (50:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:54):
How much were they stay in the watermelon there for?

Speaker 23 (50:57):
I know you can't buy them from You've got to
buy them from the supermarket.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
But you can buy the squash from.

Speaker 23 (51:02):
The warehouse Yeah, from their factory.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (51:07):
Pretty pretty cool of the neighbors and a lot of
the old people that can't drive there.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
Pretty boring vegetable A squash, though, isn't it? What do
you do with it? Do you love it?

Speaker 23 (51:16):
It's nice and dry?

Speaker 12 (51:17):
Really?

Speaker 23 (51:19):
Yes, better than the soggy pumpkin.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
What do you do with your squash?

Speaker 23 (51:26):
Usually?

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Bake it well, cut it and then bake it.

Speaker 23 (51:30):
Yes, yeah, like for a roast.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Oh yeah, yeah, I guess yeah. Is it like a
butternut you're into.

Speaker 23 (51:37):
Yeah, yeah, it's around. They used to export a lot
from Grisbone to Japan.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Not a butter cup, but a butternut. Is that right?
Or a butter cup?

Speaker 8 (51:48):
No?

Speaker 23 (51:49):
I think they probably call it a butter cup.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Everybody just looks like, so, yeah, yeah, you've had a
spaghetti squash No quite good comes out like spaghetti comes
out and strands bizarre. What's going on there? And I've
enjoyed talking squash with you. And that place name I
hadn't heard before. I'm just going to repeat that again.
What was it called? Fuddy Oer Onnger rail Country A

(52:18):
get in Touch Marcus till twelve. Fancy that guy not
only saying how much he loved squash, but really shoving
it to pumpkin terrible soft stuff. It was a DC
three that hit the chimes, but and he his wrecked
DC eight on the mark of the airstrip just after
they introduced it in the late sixties, something about throwing

(52:39):
the motor in reverse. Someone ll know that details good
shoe Marcus never crashed one of the hercules all those years.
So good on the air Force for yeap, What wasn't
lux in there? Because he thought he used to run airline?
You think down there for the old landing, what wasn't
seven sharp there? You think they'd be interviewing the pilots?

(53:02):
What's going on with the stories? We want to see? Meanwhile,
in christ Church today, part of the aviation history aimed
to an end crossing now to oh that's right, well, yeah,
it's just we love that sort of stuff these days.

(53:23):
If it doesn't ever it happens outside, Auckland's not covered
for goodness sake, very important not to become bitter, isn't it?

Speaker 21 (53:33):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Yeah, do you living these end times? Twenty past nine?
My names Marcus, welcome. If you got anything to add
to these topics, Great God, knock yourself out. There's something
different you want to mention, Great Good, knock yourself out. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty ten percent of all Kiwi's
affected by fraud or deception in the last year. We've

(53:57):
got a we've got a global reputation has been easy
targets for scammers. Yep I reckon they'd be right, and
the sea one thirty. Hecus there at Wiggram Eerodrome this afternoon.
The videos on our Facebook page. How many watches has
that head? I'll go and check that myself. People, what

(54:23):
about I'm begging pumpkin like that soggy stuff sound a
good one, it though, I should eat more squash, love squash.
I'll just see how many people have left the interesting
comments about the plane landing. Oh yes, oh yeah, going

(54:48):
quite well as a post. It's a beautiful plane. We
live in an obstinable point and would often see the
sea one thirty flying overhead, will miss it. Thanks for
keeping us up then, I can't wait to see more photos.
Spot the hair running for its life. That's right, they're
cleared it. That's probably why they did the touch and go.

(55:10):
Thanks Marc as sad day. Clearly not important enough to
have on the news tonight. I'm not normally one that
rings up to talk. He said, oh, why wasn't this
on the news? But why wasn't this on the news?
The ocr and the Ukraine and the pope that was
it happened this afternoon. They could have had a reporter there

(55:32):
send out one of the mcveigh's package it up. Goodness,
just there for the offering great visuals. By the way,
here's something. Is anyone else having a big problem with
ants at the moment? It seems to be ant season

(55:54):
And I wonder if anyone's experiencing a particularly high infestation
at the moment, and what you want to do, how
you've managed to combat that. Are you sure there are
summer thing ants? Or is that just because we leave
more food out the summer. I think there are summer
thing I think most animals are more active in the summer.

(56:17):
Maybe there's such a thing as summer ants, and maybe
in winter they kind of die off. I don't know,
I'm not the bug man. Obviously, a lot of texts
calling luxon Luxton, which is weird that people hear that

(56:40):
name so often. They put the t in there. Don't
know what that's about. Like they always said John Keyes,
I always said just Center, and now it's always Luxton,
which kind of slightly amuses me or amuses me when

(57:02):
people come through some great points. But I think, well, actually,
and what about the fact that golf has gone indoors
all these tournaments now where they and even like Tiger
Woods and Roy McRae they're all playing indoor golf. Were
just bang the ball at a screen. Does that mean
that golf courses are going to be a thing in

(57:23):
the past? Turn them in there. And I haven't heard
anyone talk about this, but looks like it might be happening. Janey,
it's Marcus. Good evening and welcome, Hi Janey.

Speaker 15 (57:33):
Hi, Hi Marcus. My late mother was a teacher at
Corporal Ava when the flood came through.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
Wow.

Speaker 15 (57:40):
And we actually I've moved back into the area and
I'm now living on this peninsula and my peninsula. But
Corporal Memorial is something that's very strong in our our
area and certainly gets a lot of tourist attraction, although.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
The actual monument you can't get to, is.

Speaker 15 (58:01):
That right, Yes, it takes a bit of walking in
a bit okay here. It was when the railway was
open and running and functional. It was hugely popular and
very much people would sort of stay awake if they'd
come from Willington to Gisbon on the train, which it

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used to do and begging my day, people would certainly
stay awake to watch it and train would slow down
and I understand.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
So it was the monument was mainly for people to
watch as they went past on the train. That makes sense,
doesn't it.

Speaker 15 (58:37):
Yes, Yeah, because we were, you know, where the actual
flooding was was sort of quite quite sort of spread out,
but it was sort of put there to remind people
that walk, even people that walk along the track. Most
people now just walk along the railway track or what's
left of it to the monument. It's certainly not accessible

(58:58):
by anything else.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Was the school there specifically for the children of the
people making the viaduct?

Speaker 15 (59:05):
Yes, it was, And there was some her rumous stories
of people leaving your families on the other side of
the world to come over and engage in this because
it was quite a If you know that in the
rail line in this area, which I'm sure you do,
it's quite a it's quite difficult terrain and it was

(59:25):
quite specialized work that was going on in those days
in terms of building the rail line.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
And was your mother there for it? Was your mother,
wasn't it? Was she there for the flood? Was she
there for the flood?

Speaker 6 (59:38):
Yes, she was.

Speaker 15 (59:40):
She never really spoke about it much because she said
it was so traumatic and she lived and so many
people didn't. So it was something that we're always very
aware of but she never really enlarged upon. She just
said it was just she just so so sad.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
So she was in the camp with all the others.

Speaker 15 (01:00:04):
Yes, yeah, but she was fortunate that.

Speaker 11 (01:00:10):
They have been.

Speaker 15 (01:00:11):
They used to have quite sort of it was quite
a social establishment, and they used to have uthah nights
and social activities, and she was being a school teacher.
She was called upon to be the you know, quiz
nights and things like that. She was called upon to

(01:00:31):
be the sort of moderator of these activities. And she said,
it was it just happened so quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
You need to do all those things too, because isolated community,
wasn't it.

Speaker 15 (01:00:42):
Oh yes, yes, yeah it was. Yeah. And our farm
at Marhanger actually backed down and overlooked on to where
it happened. So, oh, I guess we've got a more
personal note than a lot of other people.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Well, I really appreciate you coming through, Janie. It's amazing
about the show. That meant you any event that was
summer with a connection to it, So thank you for that.
We just talked about the were just talking about the
disaster that happened in nineteen thirty eight. They're building the
railway track through Copewafa between Marha and Gisbon and a

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damn gave way and there was a landslide or a
month slide, I guess you call it, and twenty one
people killed. That happened this day in nineteen thirty eight.
Corpoo after I guess it's probably from that pass. It's
probably long oh at the beginning.

Speaker 9 (01:01:33):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
So there you go. Also talking about ants tonight and
the plane landing at Wigram. If anyone saw that, any
eyewitness said, some people that saw it from the pub,
the Sandgridge Hotel, and you yourself might have seen that, Marcus.
One memory I have about aircraft was at Milson Parmerston

(01:01:56):
North the air show. Dougas Bader was a guest. A
Globe Master made a low pass over the runway with
any one of its four engines turned on, displaying its
power plus it wrong opening. We're in ever Odell to
touch the runway. Damage in the undercarriage, got photos Knoll, Marcus.
Ants hate salt, So sprinkle salt where they are and
they'll be the last time you see them Rose Gisbon.

(01:02:19):
It's not me with the ants when I get them
down south, Marcus. When I was a child before cyclone
bowler hit. I would hear the train toot from my
nana's house in Copahafra. That's from Sarah Marcus. The reason
for indoor golf, the reason for its rise and popularity

(01:02:40):
is due to the gulft cost of course fees and
places like China and Coorea and maybe New Zealand seeing
ants coming through the kitchen window and ever had ants
before in the house. Eat wave might have something to
do with it. A lot of people recommending raid for
the ants, not just raid, it's raid liquid ants. What'd
be in it? I always thought it was never wrong

(01:03:01):
for ants or never Yeah, that's something that I've just
got to say about that, never wrong. I think the
Orange and Black Bottles cricket's about to start Champions Trophy
twenty twenty five. I don't know too much about that. Actually,
I'm not going to quite sure what I'm still getting
myself in for, so I should do some research about that.

(01:03:25):
I don't know that we've done anything to qualify for
there just a three cut I look into that. I
should have done some research. But maybe someone can tell
me about that. Oh yeah, there's a lot of teams
the okay, okay, okay. It's the ninth edition of the

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ICC Champions Trophy, hosted by Pakistan and Ua from the
nineteenth to February of the ninth of March. Will be
contested by the top eight ranked men's national teams qualified
for the twenty twenty three Cricket World Cup. So it's
fifty over. It's one day matches, is that right? I've

(01:04:08):
got that one right, So there you go. Two point
two four million per team for the winners. That's from Wikipedia,
fourtey away from ten. If you saw the plane land
at Rigwam, that's what we're about. And ants. I love
that guy from train Control too. But if you want
to add to that, and it's always interesting the list

(01:04:32):
of the different disasters, it's mainly ships, isn't it? Ships?
And quakes on them planes? But of course you wouldn't
call the Arabas disaster and he's head a disaster because
it happened in Antarctica, which makes it even odder because
it's Antarctica's worst disaster by a long long way. I'm

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sure more people died in Arabis than an Antarctic combined
everything else, even all those adventurers, oats and the like
good evening, hell and it's Marcus well them.

Speaker 6 (01:05:07):
Hey, hi Marcus. I'd like to talk about ants. Don't
ants pay some very important role role in the ecology,
in the environment. Don't they sort of clean up things,
you know, rotten logs and or is that cockroaches?

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
They don't often say that that all the ants combined
would ray more than all the people. I don't know
what ends do.

Speaker 6 (01:05:34):
I have a feeling they're sort of play an important role.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
I think I think people don't hate ants, they just
don't like them in their food.

Speaker 6 (01:05:43):
No, well, I feel very sorry for them. People are
always trying to wipe them out. I just take you know,
if they come in and they I just take whatever,
a bit of whatever it is outside, and they sort
of follow that and go outside, and then maybe they
come in again and try something else, But I just

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take it outside and I don't use Do you have
any problem with them? And then they just go away?
You know, I feel feel sorry for them.

Speaker 2 (01:06:11):
Do your ants like the sweet stuff or the savory stuff?

Speaker 22 (01:06:15):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:06:16):
The sweet stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
A lot of the ants these days have more savory.
The different one that like the savory, Yeah, but that
there might be your ones. You might have a different
I mean, you'll sound tame.

Speaker 6 (01:06:27):
They're lovely, I like ants. Yeah, I don't. I mean
I'm not I'm sounding very judgmental.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
I think you're sounding very fair.

Speaker 6 (01:06:40):
No, No, what I mean is, you know people have
people who kill them.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
You sound about pious.

Speaker 6 (01:06:49):
Yeah, I mean have a valid reason for it, you know,
because some people think they bring in diseases and stuff.
And I think, oh, yeah, well that's right, that's fair enough.

Speaker 15 (01:06:59):
You know.

Speaker 6 (01:06:59):
I'm I'm not prepared to condemn everybody who kills them,
but that's how that's just how I've dealt with them.
And I I just to get to get a bit
worried that we're trying to wipe them out. And they
play some very important ecological role. So maybe somebody who
knows a bit more about that. Do you want to
know about whippets?

Speaker 2 (01:07:18):
Yep.

Speaker 6 (01:07:19):
They're like very tiny little greyhounds, like half a greyhound
of be a whippet, very small, and they I think
they shiver because they haven't got any body fat on them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
Oh they're lean, aren't they.

Speaker 6 (01:07:31):
Yeah, And they've got fragile little bones and things.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
Where were they bred?

Speaker 6 (01:07:37):
I haven't got no idea, And we were talking about pumpkins.
There is a butter cup pumpkin which has like got
a sort of green skin, you know, it looks like
a pumpkin. And then there's a button nut pumpkin which
is sort of shaped like a good and there's a
kind of tan colored skin. Sorry about all these topics.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
No, it's good. That's good to get a recap, Helen.
I appreciate you for that. So getting some really strong
advocates for the ants, Marcus. I like ants too. I
feed them, they go outside. They are only trying to survive.
I don't know why we can't live alongside instincts and
kind of killing everything. Marcus. We went on a rampage

(01:08:21):
when we first moved here where ants everywhere. So we
ripped out any plants, forming a bridge to the house.
People aren't gonna like this. Then put trapped throughout and
around the house. Found on any bait that worked permanently
was ants in your pants. I've never heard of ants
in your pants. I've heard of ants in your pants,

(01:08:42):
but not. It's a great name for isn't it. If
they're having me on? If that's a real thing, ants
in your pants? How are you going people? My name
is Marcus. Welcome, Oh wait her an eight taty and
nineteen nine to de text. Oh so oh, it's from
the wet and forget people. I think ants naturally socially

(01:09:03):
distanced themselves from each other. I didn't believe it either.
When you watch them, it seems to be true. I
think ants around the fence rails, and I baked them
with exterm an and key weekend, no ants and more
teine spray, little glass jar, put holes in the lid.
Five teaspoons, white sugar, one teaspoon. Bor X works every

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time wherever you have an issue, even in the garden.
Get bor X at Bunnings. Christine, Christine Evening, Johnny Marcus,
welcome evening.

Speaker 8 (01:09:38):
Yes, we've got Argentine nts that come in from the
ships around Koller. And they first started coming around two
thousand and two, I think, in large numbers in a
suburb called NATUCKI at mounta mong Annoy, and it was
three people working on the wharf. I was one of them,

(01:09:58):
sure of it because they didn't get into your car.
And you get it from unloading ships and so on.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
And they're the ones that have the like the savory
stuff is that right.

Speaker 8 (01:10:11):
Well, they're in my kitchen occasionally. I'm always getting blown
up if I leave anything on the bench. But yeah,
they're sort of the yellowy color and the color or
more of a dull yellow. And yeah, there's a few
of them around, but I've noticed in Welcome Bay here

(01:10:33):
there's significantly more than satan space.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
They are like the brown, yellowy brownie, waxy looking, aren't they.

Speaker 8 (01:10:41):
Yeah, yes, the glassy looking, and they're a little bit
older than your average black ant. But yeah, they've they've
been in my garden and I've noticed, Yeah, there's a lot.
I don't use sprays or anything. I've got natural privitice,
but I see there's quite a variety of some interesting
ants tuning up. And I took a photo of one

(01:11:02):
of them and tried to find out, but I couldn't
really tell what species it once.

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
We might talk more without it the next Dowy Johnny.
But thank you for that, Laurie Marcus.

Speaker 18 (01:11:13):
Welcome, Yeah, hid Marcus. According to that blurb on the
ants and the pants packets, there's one hundred thousand different
species of ants.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
That's a few.

Speaker 18 (01:11:25):
I assume ruine Rude climb pass has an association with
that company. So yeah, yeah, he tests some of their
products and well, and I think he has when people
go on his show and have trouble ants, that's that's

(01:11:45):
something he recommends.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
Oh, I see, but he's got he's in their camp
in there.

Speaker 18 (01:11:52):
For that particular product. I know he gets a bit.
I know he's not that keen on the Miss Muppets Revenge,
which is a product to spray to get rid of your spiders.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Likes the spiders.

Speaker 18 (01:12:03):
He's pro spider here. So I've got yeah, but just
I don't know if if you've heard there's a number
of people it's sort of a genetic trait where you
can smelant. There's a phomic acid and I I can
smell them when they're in large numbers, but there's people

(01:12:24):
that can't smell them at all. But it's it's when
when you look up about it, they say it's it's
a genetic trait.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
What percentage can smell them?

Speaker 18 (01:12:34):
Well, I'm quite sure, but I mean they usually large concentrations,
and like say you're here, you get the north wall
of a building, and if I've gotten there in big numbers,
you know it's I mean the times I smell them,
it's it's it's there's no, there's no question about it.
Then you say there's other people and they can't smell anything,
But I think it's you know, it's I'm not quite

(01:12:55):
sure hair rere that is, but yeah, I see it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Twenty percent of people can smell them.

Speaker 18 (01:13:02):
Yeah, yeah, I mean in the mann or too. Well, well,
there's we just speak for a part of Parmi that
I live. And it's been the year of the quietly
end really this year, yeah, because it was quite wet
and over spring and we haven't had many in the
house at all. In fact, there's another product which is
quite good. It's called ripcord Plus, which you know, if

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you can spray to stop the ants sort of moving
in and let's keep the cockroaches and other things out too.
But it's it's pretty effective here, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Because you can smell the end. Say from how far
can you smell them?

Speaker 18 (01:13:38):
Well, they have to be in pretty big numbers, no,
normal small numbers. I don't, although I could remember a
particular occasion. I worked in Farmy for a government department
that got closed down being reorganized, and we had to
put a whole lot of office cabints, cabinets and storage.
We hired a garage up and Terrace end and stuck

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all these great cabinets in there, and they were going
to Originally the head office was going to send a
truck up to have to take them bad in Willington
in the process. Terrace is a pretty good place for ants.
When I went around when the truck arrived to unlock
the doors to load these things on, and said, you know,

(01:14:20):
I mean I smelled them straight away. The whole place
was just riddle with them, and all every seal cabinet,
every layer had you know that he nested ends. And
I just sort of visualizing because we I wasn't on
such great terms with the department that it shut us
down that we put them in the truck and sent
them off to visualize what they're going to be like

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when they've got hit Wellington.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Very good at Larry, thank you for that. Who can
spell ends? Why can't you smell? And who can spell
out spelling nts and Argentinian n or Argentine nts? Oh
wait one hundred and eighty ten, nineteen ninety two to
text someone texts, I can smell them. Of course you
can get in touch here till twelve thirty past ten.
My name is Markers. Seems to be a wicket in
a cricket. They're appealing, are they no betting?

Speaker 8 (01:15:07):
That?

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
Good evening, Alan as Marcus, Welcome, Hi Marcus.

Speaker 12 (01:15:12):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Alan? Thank you? How are you going all right?

Speaker 18 (01:15:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (01:15:16):
Pretty good? Yeah. I've got ant Siri, little tiny black things.
God can they move? Yeah. One night there I had
a lot of ants. They came in. I've got them
all around my section here the patches of them running

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around the concrete and.

Speaker 8 (01:15:41):
What have you.

Speaker 12 (01:15:42):
But one night here I got them in the They
come into my bedroom and they're all along in the window.
Sell them and they got on my tall boy, you
got into my hair. I could feel them running in
me here. I woke up during the night. You could

(01:16:04):
feel them in your hair.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Sounds good.

Speaker 12 (01:16:07):
They were in there. They were starting to eat me.
And I just got in the share. I got some
disinfected and I just sprayed the whole. I cleaned my
room out and pulled my room to pieces that day.
Next day, Uh, yeah, the cat goes out and rolls

(01:16:31):
on the concrete in the nice warm day. Yeah, and
he got some on me and he was running for
a while. I had to put some stuff on the
on the back of his neck. You get it a
new world and yeah, just give it a little tube
tiny we Chube.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
What part of the country you on? Ellen? And gray
here cheapers, they're in Graymouth. Yeah, I don't think they'd
be pretty empty at all.

Speaker 12 (01:17:03):
Yeah, I've got millions the things here.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
And when they're on you Is this just recently.

Speaker 12 (01:17:11):
A week ago?

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Yeah, sheep as, I'm feeling for you.

Speaker 12 (01:17:15):
But yeah, I sprayed them in pretty much every day.
I get nem o well outside and spray the spray
them outside. There there's lines of them. They come along
and from under there's under the bottom wall weatherboard that

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sits on the near the foundation. They go up under that,
under there, underneath my veranda. I'm sure they're under there
or under underneath by there's some run by the sitting
room there too.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
They sound very will they sound very well organized.

Speaker 12 (01:17:57):
Oh they are, they really are. They're in the trees too,
and my up and my nectarine trees and my but
is a camellia tree there they're up and there. I
sprayed them my love and there the other night. But
see they get in a big line. There's lines of

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them a ride alonger at my front from the house
right out to the front gate and along on the
alonger each of the boards, on each of the guards.
And there's swarms, absolute swarms of them.

Speaker 2 (01:18:38):
Have they just started getting worse?

Speaker 12 (01:18:41):
I spray them every night, you know, every day.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
But how long has this gone on? For?

Speaker 12 (01:18:47):
Weeks and weeks and weeks? All us all summer, all summer?

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Okay? And well, thoughts are with you? Elements. That's good?
I mean I enjoyed your story. Venty they're going on
a kid. Hello Jill, Jill.

Speaker 10 (01:19:03):
Hello, Hello evening. Marcus product. I have a product here
in my hand which is put out by Pee Week
Care and it's called no Ants gel Bait. And how
many grams doing it?

Speaker 24 (01:19:25):
Ready to use?

Speaker 10 (01:19:27):
Ten grands? I think it's ten? What was it?

Speaker 22 (01:19:32):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:19:33):
M hm?

Speaker 10 (01:19:34):
And anywhere they just squeamed out you see where the
ants are running and you just put a spot a
dab of this gel and they pick it up and
take it back to the nest and so they all die.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
You get the lot. To get the lot, someone comes
back with that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:51):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
So you've had you've had problems and this has worked
for you.

Speaker 10 (01:19:55):
No, not in my house. No, but sometimes they're outside,
not very often. I haven't had any lately, but I
just keep this in case. But I couldn't bear them
in my house because I have had them in homes
I live in Auckland, and they're dreadful if they get

(01:20:15):
into your house, and the smell they make is just unbelievable,
and they will eat anything, any sugar jam. They'll get
into all the products of your pantry. But no, my
house is Bullock Prosperence.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
What's the name of the product again.

Speaker 24 (01:20:39):
There, gen, Jill, It's key We.

Speaker 10 (01:20:44):
It's put out by key We Carey, we care And
no ants, Okay, miss killer brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Appreciate that, Jill, So for wrong naming you to your
aunt proud Wow, no ants.

Speaker 10 (01:21:01):
Valerie her name Marcus. I just thought you like my
story about inks. I went to go to the toilet
one day, and this is going back now about three
years ago, and the bowl of the toilet was absolutely
laden black with inks. So I lifted the lid you

(01:21:24):
know where you flush the toilet. I lifted the lid
right off and there was thousands of them all over
the lid. It was just jet black. And yeh. The
following year I went to have a shower. I got
a week to go to get a towel out of
the cylinder cupboard, and there was about ten thousand inks

(01:21:45):
in between my towels and the cylinder cupboard. I could
hardly believe it. So I rang the people that run
our plats and the man came down. And after that,
every year they come around and spray us, and I
haven't had one since.

Speaker 11 (01:22:04):
The bug man.

Speaker 10 (01:22:05):
They get the bug man and the sprays all around
by your back door and your garden. It doesn't kill
any branchs or anything, and we haven't. I haven't had
any trouble since. But why would they go on my
cylinder cupboard?

Speaker 2 (01:22:18):
Well, why they go in the toilet system because it's
witting there with the on top of the water.

Speaker 10 (01:22:23):
Yes, I was sitting on top of the water.

Speaker 13 (01:22:26):
All of them.

Speaker 10 (01:22:26):
There were thousands of them. That took me three weeks
to get rid of them completely.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
And they must have just appeared quite suddenly, if they
were just suddenly there.

Speaker 10 (01:22:38):
Yes, that's right, that's exactly right. I've never seen so
many in all my life. And I'll tell you another
place I loved that where they were bad was took
a coey I lived there for a few years and
the windowsills or brack with them feels quite empty.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
It feels like quite an anty kind of a place.

Speaker 17 (01:22:59):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (01:23:01):
Yes, so they're everywhere, I think, aren't they. I think
all towns have got them.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
I know of them down south. I've never seen an
anton bluff. We don't have ants, we don't have mosquitoes,
we don't have something else. I can't think what the
other thing is. Flies, And that in itself is a
reason to live there. I would to say, to be
free of ants is re freeing. You've been involved in
the house and an ant fes stations, just sources everywhere, events, stuff,

(01:23:28):
and it never works. They get used to it. In fact,
I think after a while they start drinking it just
to taunt you. Yeah, if you've ever been taunted by ants,
it's not pleasant. Don't want to jinx it with the
keis off to fly. They're playing Pakistan and the champions
trophy thirty two without loss, us even batting first Young

(01:23:48):
twenty one Conway ten ten off ten young twenty one
off twenty three run a ball, run a ball. Years
ago I worked in a rest home and ants would
set the fire alarms off wasn't so great. On the
night shift, the fire service automate and notified it would
turn up to check things out. Then of course all
the res a would wake up bringing this cool bells.

(01:24:09):
At least it made the shift go fast to fun times.
Ah yuck. Get in touch. My name is Marcus hit
On midnight tonight, oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
If you want to text, it's nine two nine two.
Do you want to see the plane landing at Wigram
Go to Marcus slash nuts on Facebook. Good evening, Jen,

(01:24:32):
Jen Jay, and it's Marcus.

Speaker 25 (01:24:33):
Welcome, Hi Marcus. Now, if you want to get rid
of ents, you go to the supermarket where the fly
spray is and get a container of ants sand. You
go right round your house, down your drive everywhere, get
rid of the whole container, and you'll never have another NT.

Speaker 19 (01:24:55):
What's it called ant sand?

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
How do you hear about these things? I never heard
of it?

Speaker 25 (01:25:02):
Well, I don't know, but round the windowsills, down the
drive way, right the way around the whole house and
you will never have another end.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
And send and send, And.

Speaker 25 (01:25:17):
That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Send and send and send sand freends.

Speaker 25 (01:25:24):
Yep, And it's but where the fly sprays are in
the supermarkets. Absolutely fantastic goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
I wonder what it is.

Speaker 25 (01:25:35):
Well, I don't know, but thet don't like it. I
can tell you you'll never have them better again.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
Good to work with a sand case. Just pour it
around like saying.

Speaker 11 (01:25:44):
And said, that's right.

Speaker 25 (01:25:46):
It's just just got holes in the top of the container.
And you shake the sand around on your windowsills, down
the drive, everywhere, everywhere, and you will never have another end.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
I've never heard of advertised sounds for you.

Speaker 25 (01:26:00):
Well, I'm advertising.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
You are doing very well, Jane. Thank you. Marcus money
a tall or no ants, fleas, slugs or snails too cold.
I can believe your antsand ant sand Hi beef. You're right, yep,
Marcus welcome.

Speaker 24 (01:26:20):
It's right, yeah, my market. I can smell ants. Wow,
they have the most horrible bitter acidy kind of smell.
And I accidentally ate a couple not realizing they were
in it, and just as I put it in my mouth,
I could start to smell the smell, but I was

(01:26:42):
already too bad on and oh my god, they taste
just like they smell, and.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
I know that kind of that taste. I think we've
all inadvertently tasted them. But I don't know. I don't
think I can smell them.

Speaker 24 (01:26:57):
Oh no, I can smell them, and took ages for
the taste to go out of my mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
How far away could you smell them? Could there be
one on the saw also and you'd smell it?

Speaker 24 (01:27:10):
It was probably more if there were quite a few
of them, like the other man says, And I know
this sounds horrible that I'd pour boiling water on them.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
Wow, that doesn't sound horrible.

Speaker 24 (01:27:23):
Yeah, that kills them straight away though, so I don't
feel quite so bad. But they when that happens, they
set off that smell as well. Yes, like when it's
almost when they die, they do a little pain.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
Could you go to someone's house and think, oh, that
smells quite anti?

Speaker 24 (01:27:45):
Well, I haven't noticed it at anybody's house, but I mean,
I'm not going around sniffing for ant feeder.

Speaker 2 (01:27:53):
But did you know that it was a superpower that
twenty percent of people are ant smellers?

Speaker 24 (01:27:58):
No, I thought everybody, No.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
No, you're a rare breed.

Speaker 24 (01:28:05):
Yeah, but I am. Where I used to live, there
up a lot of ants, and sometimes I put a
whole lot of sugar out to feed them, and then
when they're a whole lot there, then I just wipe
them out. And I felt really bad doing it, but
you know, you just sometimes have to. You've got to

(01:28:26):
do something to get rid of them, and they just
were everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
I don't know genetically what the advantage to be able
to smell ants would be.

Speaker 24 (01:28:38):
Yeah, I don't think most people even think about it.
They just go, oh, I can smell them.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
Do they smell like blue cheese?

Speaker 24 (01:28:52):
No, blue cheese smells better?

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
Okay, Wow.

Speaker 24 (01:28:56):
Yeah, it's a real bitter, really bitter, acidy kind of smell.
So they taste just as they smell.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
Yeah, okay, I appreciate that. Ant smellers twenty five to
ten eleven, Malcolm.

Speaker 13 (01:29:13):
Hello, get a Marcus Howei.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
Good, Thank you, Malcolm.

Speaker 13 (01:29:18):
The simplest, most easily sensible way to get right around
is just go out to any supermarket and buy a
bottle of white or malt vinegar. They hate vinegar. Oh,
for goodness, they run now, they run the hills. I've
been doing it for thirty four years. Works every time.

Speaker 12 (01:29:42):
Wow.

Speaker 13 (01:29:44):
You don't have to go and buy a branded product,
just get because most of them if you actually look
at them, will be vinegar? Just going to buy a
bottle of vinegar?

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
Gone, you're Malcolm, Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:29:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Someone says ants smell chocolate. Well, I guess it depends
on which different ances ship smelling the a lot of
different ends. I don't know what the definition of an enters.
There's probably something to do with it to body makeup.
You're an insect, aren't they? What's it? An insect and
a spider. That was always a bit vague, wasn't it.

(01:30:22):
What surprises me, right is people are so brand loyal
to some ant cure. Now bless her Jan, I think
it was you'll never see an ant again? Well, I
reckon you will. But she swears by the ant sand.

(01:30:48):
Would you go ant sand for Jan or Murray's melt vinegar.
I'd go to the ant sand because your phone line
was better. Marcus. They's ants are like aliens. They love fish.
I had some bait in a poly but and they
got through a tidy crack. Can't believe about twenty of
them actually froze to death marching over the ice. Marcus.

(01:31:08):
Ant sand would not be that great for the used
of crops and birds. Good point? Would the bird eat it?
They might well ant rid is the best Marcus blue
liquid and tube from New World World or Bunnings. Once,
like Kate, the ants squirt that near them, then more
and more arrive. They love it. They take it back
to the nest. During the next two days, less and

(01:31:29):
less arrive until none re effective. Similar concept to wasp kill.
By the way, I have no ants. It's not me
that suggested suggested that I've got ants. I said, people
are saying that ants are a problem this summer. No say,

(01:31:52):
oh yeah, Marcus, got ant o every anty. I've got
no ants, no zero ants to bring. Men say you're
forty for one, there's a wicked you, and say you
what you're going to try? Is this? Because I don't
need to try anything. I've got no ants. But if

(01:32:13):
I had them, don know what I'd be trying. Never on.
I've always rated when I've lived in more empty parts
of the world. But even in Craig.

Speaker 4 (01:32:28):
Hi Marcus, I reckon. I introduced ants to my house.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
I loved monarch butterflies, and I bought some swamp plants.
And ants will farm the aphids that get on the
swamp plants. And so originally we had the proper so
called ant, you know, the large ant that you can
see quite visibly. Never come into the house, you'll always

(01:33:01):
see it in the garden. And then we started getting
it was a smaller end and if you squash it,
to me, it smells like bananas. It has this sort
of fragrance, like you know when you go to supermarket
and you go to grab your bananas at Pack and
Save or New World or wherever, and you've got that

(01:33:23):
real pungent banana smell. Well, that's what they smell like.

Speaker 9 (01:33:27):
If you're squashing.

Speaker 4 (01:33:29):
And then there's a third ant that we get, and
it's even smaller again, and it seems to be faster.
It's very vigorous, and if you squash that it almost
smells gingery, like a ginger smell. So I'm in the
eastern suburbs of christ Church. I'm in the Bromley area
of christ Church, off Land Whatev. So it'd be interesting

(01:33:52):
to see if anyone else gets that kind of event
in that area. We're kind of on a sandy soil
and it's also that volcanic like the red sort of
soil as well. Yes, it'd be interesting to see if

(01:34:13):
anyone else has similar experiences in the area.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
I'll find out, Craig, but thank you. I just got
to tell you that Cain Williamson's gone out second ball,
got an edge caught behind. That's heartbreaking. He looks devastated
also too. So that seems so we're like forty for two.
There's a situation there forty So yeah, that's a worry.
Lennard's Marcus.

Speaker 9 (01:34:34):
Hello, Oh hi Marcus.

Speaker 5 (01:34:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 14 (01:34:38):
About seven or eight years ago, I had my home
inundated with ants and it was a really really dry summer.
I ended up by calling in an insect test controller
guy and we put that weakened to get product all around,
and he sprayed everywhere. I had a two story brick house.

(01:35:01):
I had them everywhere. It wasn't a cleanliness thing. It
was so dry outside. They were coming inside looking for water.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
System.

Speaker 14 (01:35:09):
Yeah, yes, you find their way into the shower, around
the taps in the pantry, everywhere, just black insect. They
smell like for melder hide or for melodic acid or something.
You can smell them coming. I had him in twice
that summer and he re sprayed, and the next summer

(01:35:32):
I called him in again because they were still around
and he said, you kind of clear out their massive
underground nests. But of course then there's a spare hotel
around and all the local ants and further afield come
in and take over there.

Speaker 2 (01:35:48):
Yes, of course, oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:35:50):
So every time it's really really dry like we're having
in South Auckland this year, I wouldn't be surprised if
the ants are out again, just one of those psychic
insect problems. Oh and the other thing he told me,
and I can't remember exactly, that there are where there
were really really tiny ants that were either sugar ants

(01:36:10):
or protein and the other bigger ants were different as well.
He was, you need a pest control guying up. It's
interesting to learn about them.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
There's some sweet, there's some savory. Yeah, and the big
ones are the Argentine ones that came for the common
the commonalth games at Mount Smart. That's what the first
spotted came with a competitor. I don't know what event.
If you regularly fly spray common column of ants and
their sauce when they're coming from they get the message
they stay clear of your food stuffs. And the ten

(01:36:42):
years I've had this, I've had two infestations. Dealt with
methods both times. Ants are sugar hollocks. If I leave
a can of bourbon out, it's a it's ants maniac rush.
They're easy to catch then, though. People are liking bed

(01:37:03):
with the boiling water Realy clearly even I got a shock?
Was she the super Speller? Forty five for two abra
is bowling. I don't know what happened with Caine. I'm

(01:37:25):
not happy, though, but Young's established. He's thirty one on
thirty two bulls Mitchell's two for four. It's Ants tonight.
Marcus opened the back door and on the porch for
around one hundred and more ants taking parts of a
dead bomb of moth back to their nest. A lot
of people rave about that movie Ants. I don't ever
like that a little bit. I'm not gonna say unbelievable,

(01:37:52):
a little bit sort of corny. No, I reckons there's
lots of people with entirety he's done to play on
anxiety and antiety. Good at least he's trying get in
touch by name as Marcus. Welcome hitded twelve oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty nine nine text. Anyone't got anything different?

(01:38:17):
They want to talk about that's fine by me, Marcus.
A panel including James Cameron was on Stuff Live tonight.
Patty Gower was the moderator. More than a thousand people
in the MFC with the Michael Fowler Center. It was
a difficult watch with bright lights and no table. Gower
and the panel, except for Cameron, looked down most of

(01:38:38):
the time, slouching trying to get out of the lights.
It was poorly moderated. Speakers were allowed to go on
and on, off and repeating themselves in the process. Gower
was restrained and keep his ego and check which was great.
Potentially an amazing opportunity for the world to look at,
to look and on Cameron will be followed by millions
here as yet to be grunded a citizenship. How crazy
is that? The passion was there, but boy at dragged Peter.

(01:39:02):
Why do we rely on an overseas persa? Do us
what to do with Wellington? He said what he said?
Does they need more car parks? Cheapers? How many car
parks are going to build? I saw ants attack monarch
butterflies while it was making a cocoon. So many ants
they completely covered their caterpillar and ate it. Good evening billets, Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
Good evening. Every time ants come into my house, I
simply pushed some of my son kill every one of them,
and they don't come back.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
So you can't have some of the infestations that are
big because sometimes people have trails with thousands of them.

Speaker 3 (01:39:47):
Well, it works for me, and no matter how many I.

Speaker 2 (01:39:51):
Okay, are you in a colder climate though, Bill.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
No, I'm a The other day I came into the
bathroom and the ants are starting to run into the basin.
I just swit for some gown and killed them all
and they haven't mean back. Sense.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
Does it take a long Does it take a long time?

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
Well, just a little of the time. They were just
starting their run a couple of years ago. They came
into my pantry and I just put my son on
them and that did take a bit a lot more
of them. And they haven't mean backed since a couple
of years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
So last time a couple of years you got.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
Brains O the yeah, brains, they won't come back.

Speaker 2 (01:40:35):
Brilliant. Okay, appreciate that, Bill, Thank you. That's Bill the
old thumb hemmer. We are talking about ants and the
problem with ants at the moment. Oh, By the way,
sky Sport is getting more expensive. I can't quite work
out why, because they're paying less for the rights for
the all blacks, so it should be less cost. A

(01:40:58):
lot of parents are saying that landlines are great things
for their children, that they enjoy always people ringing for them.
They enjoy the phone ringing at odd times. So not
getting their children's cell phones to just let them use
the landline, Well, I'll get bored with that soon or later.
I wasn't they sooner enough. Capital letters are falling out

(01:41:22):
of favor. I'm a big user of not using capital letters. Yep,
lower cases the way to go, according to people under thirty,
feels more relaxed. Someone said, when I start using proper capitalization,

(01:41:43):
it feels I'm trying to make a point strong that
it needs to be.

Speaker 12 (01:41:49):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:41:50):
To cultural marker, I've always been lower case. Like ee Cummings.
You're studying him at school anyway, good a Pete Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 16 (01:42:02):
Mars will go from ants to rets.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
To work rets.

Speaker 16 (01:42:09):
We'll go change the top, will go from from ants
torets regarding what basically, what's I'm refearing to hear what's
going on with the Ukraine now and how Donald Trump
is letting Putin doing what he's doing. I regon, it's
shocking for the world's going down there, very worrying. He's

(01:42:31):
an agressive basically what he's a I shouldn't say it,
but it's a very sair day for the Americans. I
thiees actually allowing Trump to take most of that land back.
He said he's had nothing. He should be head up
for war crime for what he has done to the
Ukrainian shockdown hospitals and you know already are rare by Trump.

(01:42:53):
So he's basically what he's doing, he's allowing Trump. I
just listened to the I've been following us for a
long time now and since Trump's got back, and which
is worse Trump for Biden? I have Biden. And what
Trump's doing hours wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
Well, I can't quite work out why he blames Ukraine
for the war. Say that again, I can't quite work
out why he's blaming the Ukraine for the war.

Speaker 16 (01:43:21):
Well, as far as I'm concerned, he invaded Ukraine and Putin.
Really the only way to be going to make the
world stronger is by letting him taking a lot of
that land back. The majority of that land back of
Putin wins that with Trumps, I reckon, what's going to

(01:43:41):
happen again and be like Crimemea, he will just wait
till he build his army up again. Here we back
in there again. So there's the agreements that he makes
now with the U n and all that, and even
by not even letting Lynsky in there for the for
the for the negotiations with the EU and the United Nations,

(01:44:05):
and that I reckon, who that hell does this Trump
think he is? He's out of control?

Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
Well, I think I think he overrates his own ability
understand understanding of world politics and thinks everything can be
done as a deal. But it's kind of weird and
kind of worrying.

Speaker 16 (01:44:27):
Very worrying Marcus, because what's He's got this word called aggressor,
which is not a good name to have if you're
a leader of United States, I can guarantee then you
know the Americans wouldn't like being called as as aggressive.

Speaker 12 (01:44:43):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
The weird thing is too now they're talking about, you
see in the military spending two percent of our GDP,
but would we want to spend two percent of our
GDPD go into an alliance with the United States to
follow them whatever conflicts are going to go into because
it's looking fairly unstable at the moment.

Speaker 16 (01:44:58):
Oh, very far as I'm concerned, I don't blame the
what's happening with the you know, if the EU were
for or the allies that around there, Basically what they're
realizing now is they cannot rely on the US anymore
because he's basically backing people like Putin. So it's I
think it's really been a shock for the for the

(01:45:21):
EU and the UN and what happens how Trump is
handling this right now, it's not to say right now,
it's not a good look for the world. If we've
got a man in power like that in the US,
he's going to pick size of Puot. And it's very
very shaky world right now. We've got a man of
power like that running the place.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
Have you spent time in the Ukraine?

Speaker 16 (01:45:42):
No, I've not been there. No, it's one place I
had not been. I traveled pretty much. It's one place
that did not go through there, you know, But I've
been through Russia and through there. When I did in
the OE and all they went to Moscow and Satan's
Petersburg and through there and mince whatever it was called.
But yeah, but what i've what's happening right now is

(01:46:03):
it's not good for the world. And I think basically
and what Trump is saying is too. He's saying this
war should have ended from day with some ways he's
wiped by staying that. But I reckon what's happening now
is that they should have ended that war from basically
day one and putin end and that when he when
they entered and then stopped them, he threating with nuclear power.

(01:46:25):
He would not have done that because he knows down well,
if he'd tried that, he would have got he would
have got burnt badly for doing that. And now what
he's done is he has actually realized he's playing with
the world. Now he's actually getting away with it right
now and he knows it. So it's really unless they
do something really bad with him take a most of
that land back, he's gonna, he's gonna. He's going to
come back, guarantee it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:47):
No problems with nts at home, Pete.

Speaker 16 (01:46:51):
No, not really. I think we all have them have
them outside. Well, I reckon fly spray is pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
Never ever used fly spray.

Speaker 16 (01:47:01):
Now we'll just go around around the door and you
just go around and just basically where actual the e
I should know, I shouldn't say it. Actually they actually
do most places. And you have got ants. I gotta
watch out too if I don't with my sugar and
out of my cupboards and that you just got to
make sure basically a containers all you just got to

(01:47:21):
you put a user bread wrap of my sugar bowl.
Just oh, you've got to wait for a long time.
But one day I don't. I had an old lolly
at the back my cupboards there. It must have been
there for a while, and they little buggers, they must
have you where. That was the next one I opened
that the cupboards. There's ants everywhere. The clean hole to
throw a whole lot of food out, and you know
the process you have to do once you get them

(01:47:42):
in your cupboards. And yeah, so the clean all those
cupboards out and yeah, so ever since it they smell it.
They blood, you know, they know, they know when you
have they I know, they just seem to smell it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
Nice to talk Pat seventy three for three, Sorry, seventy
five for three, Young on forty nine La for them
on two to the last book. It was but there
was one Marcus. I event. They come into my kitchen,
they clean up my benches in place that are hard
to get into, and they disappear. They are my home.
Help Marcus. The timu aren't farm might look good, but
when it gets it, it might be tiny. Marcus and

(01:48:17):
I canceled my myesport my sport now subscription. It's more
expensive than any other streaming service fifty five a month.
I think Netflix is about twenty. Don't know what's wrong
with them. Just rewrote my text without capitals.

Speaker 12 (01:48:31):
Very good.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
I appreciate that. Yeah, the skull should be going cheaper.
Is again the rugby for cheaper? My friend, all use
capital letters because we read the message easier. Might be
an old folks thing. Taking talking to somebody live takes
away any misconception that happens when texting. I got a
wasp nest on a post under my desk. Nest looks

(01:48:53):
like a wavy holy triangle. Use spray killed the wasp.
They are still persisting. Any tips what to drench the
nest with. Marcus woke up in the wall, was crawling
toutle black now exaggeration threw I was hallucinating. Sprayed with
ray never seen again true story Eke pouring with rain

(01:49:15):
and Temanu Marcus a little bit of thunder and lightning
earlier are eighty seven for three. It's gonna be late night.
Few people watching that, Dave Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 20 (01:49:26):
Hey Marcus, Hi, Dug, it's me again. I've I knew
when you got the news about Quincy Jones, so this
will probably be my fourth time now listen ants. It's
about seventy three. And then the missus had bought a

(01:49:46):
little house south the back of and the bush said
about that backer turn. First thing we wanted to do
was get the floors done right. So we sanded the
floors down and we sprayed it with this poly European
extreme high grass what's beautiful. Got there the next day,
left the windows and the doors wide open. It had

(01:50:06):
all set an ancherl right down the middle. Ants right
down the middle of it, and they were in a
straight line, and there it was. The line was nine
foot seven inches long and the wall was eleven foot
two inches away. Was so they had I got the

(01:50:30):
whole lot, We got the whole woman thing there and
we tried to cut it out. But the job that
was so woman good. You know, and when we did,
we cut it out like a with a knife and
a straight edge was only around about an eighth of
an inch two millimeters. So when the sunshine at a

(01:50:51):
certain place and we filled it back up again when
the sunshine and all these little black specks were in it,
like a straight line of black specks. And when I
had a look with them, we're gonna fine glass. It
was all the little weate and legs that we had left.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
Wow, you have to send it off.

Speaker 20 (01:51:11):
No, we we were trying to. We're trying to do
it and do it as gently as we could. But
so we ended up leaving it then throwing a woman
at sheeps get over it, you know. But yeah, that
was my story. Anyway, what they've done is they had
sacrificed themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:51:31):
Eh, must have died for the people.

Speaker 20 (01:51:37):
And of course the next day they had sunk down
so that they were all standing on the floor, tiny
little things to the tiny little hands.

Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
Are you still as it were still lived from there?

Speaker 20 (01:51:52):
From there years ago?

Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
Were you?

Speaker 12 (01:51:56):
Now?

Speaker 20 (01:51:57):
No, No, we're up and that the Becker grieton.

Speaker 2 (01:51:59):
Now, oh yeah, that's still kind of the same here
a little.

Speaker 13 (01:52:02):
Bit, is it?

Speaker 11 (01:52:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (01:52:04):
Yeah, here back and we're happy. Other end a welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:52:07):
Baby, yeah, because it's pretty anty there though, is it?
Someone was saying before welcome Bay with the Argentine ends.

Speaker 20 (01:52:14):
Well, I've never we've never had that's the only problem
that we've ever had with ends. Okay, the only time
I've ever seen them around there. But yeah, when you
were talking about answer, I thought, oh, are you my
old end story?

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
Good story, Dave, thank you for that. Hello, Halger, it's Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 10 (01:52:34):
Oh Hi, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:52:36):
Hell? Go, what's happening?

Speaker 10 (01:52:39):
I've done research on it. In the Bible it appears once.
Can I read it to you?

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
Of course?

Speaker 10 (01:52:46):
Proverbs six six go to the end, you lazy one,
observe its rays and become wise. And then there's a reference.

Speaker 15 (01:52:54):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 10 (01:52:55):
Yep, it's a rep as well. And the references like
didn't go to the teeth and smoke to the eyes
of the lazy person, is well, is to the one
who sends him, sends him? Sorry that again, but vinegar

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to the teeth and smoke to the eyes. So the
lazy person is to the one who sends him. So
you know you employ someone and they're lazy, Well, it's
a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:53:27):
May I thought you'd know it off by heart by
now Helga.

Speaker 10 (01:53:30):
Oh, that's so much to remember. I've done research. I
read in one of our weight magazines yesterday years ago
that scientists studied ants and that's how they get created. Roundabout, ah,
copying the ants, because they say they never bang into

(01:53:52):
each other. They all do a wise and they go
round each other, which is interesting. I did that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
Yeah, I don't know about that. I mean, they just
follow each other, don't they.

Speaker 10 (01:54:08):
No, they Actually that's how they got the idea of
the roundabout.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
From the end, what do you got coming two different directions?
What happens then?

Speaker 10 (01:54:17):
Well, they avoid each other give way? What is the
word for giving way? Yeah, but there's another word too,
like if you're walking along the road and someone's coming
towards you, you move aside because they're not clashing to you.

Speaker 4 (01:54:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:54:33):
So that's what I learned. And one of the interesting
point to do with stars and satellites. After our meeting
last week, one of my friends was telling me in
the western sky he saw twenty one satellites all in
a row a few nights in a row, passing over

(01:54:54):
west out here. Yeah, twenty one satellites, and he said,
I feel those are coming from the direction of America.
And on Monday they let off Last week five rocks
ron Gisbon. They told us after on the news that
they let them off from Gisbone taking satellites up from

(01:55:17):
New Zealand. Okay, so that's interesting, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
It's all interesting. I think those are those Elon Musk's
things Starlink, when they all go in a row, I
think that I've never seen them. I've always meant to,
but I've always been at work.

Speaker 10 (01:55:29):
I think, Well, I'll tell you. I found out our
Apple smartphones and their phones won't get starlink, and actually
Consumers Institutes taking them to court because with your Apple ifephone,
you can't contact the satellite in your car under a tree,

(01:55:51):
in the building and away from a tower. And if
you read the fine front, they're trying to promote the
starlink to businesses and you go down really small and
you've got to get a phone called wet Retics, Okay,
and that well, yeah, a very expensive one and matt
will mixed with starlink.

Speaker 2 (01:56:10):
Yeah, I heard it was problem I heard it was
problematic because also you can't it'll just be for texting.
You can't talk on it because it's not instant.

Speaker 10 (01:56:18):
Yeah, so were texts?

Speaker 24 (01:56:20):
Have a were texts?

Speaker 10 (01:56:21):
And you look up the fine print boona phone for
businesses getting connected to starlink.

Speaker 2 (01:56:30):
You've looked for me.

Speaker 10 (01:56:32):
Ah, I do a lot of it. I always read instructions,
and I said to my son, aren't you going to
read the instructions? Don't need to. And I also found
that when I bought my first cell phone or got
one from work. So used to do work at bus
stops and railway stations, marketing, ten years walk and fair sports.
And I read that you never put your phone on

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your skin. You never have it by your heart because
it's very dangerous.

Speaker 2 (01:56:59):
What's what's danus? By your heart?

Speaker 10 (01:57:02):
Your cell phone? Never put it in your top pocket
and against your body, even in your.

Speaker 2 (01:57:09):
Trouser pocket were you supposed to put it?

Speaker 15 (01:57:13):
And a bag?

Speaker 10 (01:57:15):
I put mine in the bag I had. You don't
mind if I see this? It might cut off my friend.
Her brother got tense of the gesticles little having is
in this pocket?

Speaker 2 (01:57:27):
Did they prove that though, Yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:57:30):
Well it was her brother.

Speaker 2 (01:57:32):
Yeah, they wouldn't know what the cause was. Helga By
the way, Trump COVID vaccines banned for all Americans. It
seems to be the latest. It'll go well, some of
you besides yourself with excitement about that, not me.

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