I feel for hockey (18 December 2024)

Marcus talks hot air ballooning, sports that aren't getting funding, retail, and Roger phones back to talk clove bud oil.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from News
talks'd be.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
In greeting's welcome. My name's Marcus Phillis. Like the end
is near a couple of days for me before I
go for a bit of a breaker Rooney. So it's
nice to be here, feel festive and fet set today
in a place and they played some carols. It was
on the downlow, and I got quite festive. I didn't
when I say I got quite festive, right, I didn't

(00:33):
leave straight away. I absorbed the carols. Yeah, got quite
Christmasy with it. Then some of the neighboring table started conversation.
I tried to exit, but there we go. That was me.
It was quite a pleasant half an hour. So anyway
by the bike. You got to feel for the hockey players,
don't you. I've always had a sneaking fascination with hockey

(00:55):
because a sport, right, and we're good at it, because
we've got a meddle one time, and for those of
a certain age, we'll always think that hockey is a
very special game of news in them because of that
metal and the goalkeeper played on with a fractured pateella
I think and it was at the Olympics. Someone know

(01:18):
when it was seventy two, seventy six might have been
seventy six got the gold. So because of that, hockey
has been one of the great sports, a sport that
we love. But you know, how are they going to
get good again? They're there at the Olympics, they don't
win a game. The men's and the women's have been
no more money or the funding cut. But if you're hockey,

(01:40):
what else can you do? Because you have ever seen
a hockey match? No one there. So it's not like
a sport that's going to grow because people don't turn
up to watch it. You feel sorry for them. They're
watching football soccer in New Zealand, all these people turning
up for the A league matches. Then you got the
no one knows what's going on, So how are people
going to start playing hockey? They're not because where all

(02:02):
they see it? Nowhere? And where are the good stories? No,
where are the heroes on the weak boxes? There aren't
me So I feel for hockey. I don't think it's
a game that's enjoyable to watch. Everything seems to come
from the corner. But you might want to comment on
that because yeah, if you're a sport on the decline,

(02:22):
then how do you stop the decline? You can't because
then the funding goes, then no one or play next thing.
There'll be no fields. They'll turn them up and put
them onto basketball courts. So hockey is one of the
back topics tonight. I just thought there might be someone
that wants to talk about it. There aren't many people
that play it. Yeah, I don't know how many people

(02:44):
would play it with it be forty thousand, but anyway,
so yeah, I do feel for hockey because you'd be
playing your hearts out of the Olympics, not just to
win a medal, but also because you're playing for funding
and the funding's gone. You know, want to get much sponsorship,
are you? I think women's hockey head some sponsorship for
a while, but you neverlready see the men's hockey on
the TV comvisial, do you. Anyway, that's just that out

(03:06):
there if anyone's if anyone's desperate talking about hockey in funding,
I'll just put that out the because it's one of
those topics that occasionally I like to talk about. They
spent a fortune on turning all where the fields, didn't
they thought there would be the adser all were the
fields speed the game up, but still no one wanted
to watch it. They wet the field before the game,
still no one anyway. I don't know. If you want

(03:30):
to mention hockey, I'm all for that. I don't think
they can make them a game more exciting. I don't
know how they do that. It's just one of those
games that some people play and some people like to
play it, and not many people like to watch it.
I think it's beak in Holland. There's some professional league
or something, but I think the viewing figures would be
quite slim. I don't know that it's what I surmise anyway.

(03:52):
That's hockey. Oh wait, totter at eighty. The other thing
I want to talk about, and it's because I saw
it this morning when I woke up, there was that
balloon hot air balloon mishap south of Warnaka, near lug
It or Lugarte as the locals call it, which we like.

(04:12):
We always like a mispronunciation of a place name, providing
it's a deliberate mispronunciation by people that know the correct mispronunciation,
which is different from people that mispronounced today our words,
But anyway, I'm just putting that out there. Legate So, yeah,
the balloon came down quite quickly. The balloon, I prayed,

(04:33):
do we call them a pilot? The balloon pilot didn't
know there were fences, and the people got dragged through
some fences and they got rushed off to hospital with
minor injuries. I don't know if you've ever been ballooning,
but I'm curious to hear about your hot air ballooning stories.
I know, obviously with the new ZM we have had
the ballooning tragedy and the wided upper with the eleven

(04:55):
people died, of course, and there was those people. I
think that Ronner Valentine's Day kind of a thing that
was quite grim. But yeah, I'm curious to know if
it's still a big thing because you don't see the
balloons so often. For a long time, it was quite
a big tourist thing. There'd be balloons, balloon trips in Queenstown,
there'd be balloon trips in Canterbury, there'd be balloon trips

(05:18):
in Auckland. For who really do you see them?

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Now?

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Maybe I've got that one wrong, but if you have
someone that's gone ballooning around the world. I wouldn't mind
hearing about your trip. You might have gone ballooning in Turkey.
Where do they do that? Is it called? I don't
know Turkey, but people that know Turkey know Turkey, and
they always go on about the place that I can't
pronounce where they go. Ballooning in Turkey looks very visual.
I think it's called Cappadocia, and basically go, Hotti, you're ballooning,

(05:45):
and then you manage to turbo charge your Instagram feed
because it looks so visual. There's all these balloons. Looks gorgeous. Anyway,
I went ballooning once in Alice Springs and what it
involved was getting up very very early and going in
a van and driving into the desert. And from then

(06:09):
on what happened was there was an ex South African
was Zimbabwe type, ex military person that kind of yelled
at us for an hour as we got the balloon up.
None of it was fun, like quite a stern authoritarian guy.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
You know.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
It was incredibly fascination. Then we got in the balloon,
and once we got in the balloon, it was quite
pleasant and you end up as real quiet because you
moved just sort of at the speed of the wind.
You sew kangaroos below, and yeah, it was interesting, but
it wasn't like it was one of the things you
do once you wouldn't do again. Oh I want to

(06:49):
go ballooning again. It's not like an escape room we think, oh, okay,
wait to do another one. It's like tick, I've done
ballooning and I don't know what else to the other
stage of the ballooning obsession. Oh, I don't think the
Actually many people would buy their own balloon. But there
we go. I kind of think. But like hockey, ballooning
is on the way out, is it. You don't meet

(07:10):
people that don't balloons these days. Once upon a time,
there was a brief period of my life where I
was very keen to no one's even on a balloon
journey between Stuart Island and the South Island. I thought
that could be a good attempted trip. But focused on

(07:30):
other things. Anyway, I've got a lot of texts coming through,
so that's a good sign. There's about six texts already.
So we are talking ballooning and hockey, and the other
thing is the back topic. There's a very good article
on the Washington Post that's been reprinted in the Stuff
website about the drones and New Jersey and what do

(07:53):
you know, it appears just to be paranoia and conspiracy.
And not only that, it is also the sign that
perhaps once the mainstream media, although what is mainstream now?
You could take the podcast to mainstream, but once the
media fractures that more and more people get their news

(08:15):
from social media, and the news they get is not
that robust, and people are going down all sorts of
rabbit holes with the drones. And there's a lot of
drones in the air, and once people start looking, they
all see all sorts of things. But I was thinking,
I was reading the article, what it must have been

(08:36):
like when planes started flying overhead with increased regularity. You
imagine how freaked out people must have been like that
they saw no planes in suddenly you see three or
four a week, that, gee, where are they all going?
What are they doing? What's that one doing? Then we
had the chem trails. I don't think anyone's ever recovered anyway.

(09:01):
My name is Marcus Head on Midnight. There's a fear
bit there to go around with. I'll read some of
the text when I can look forward to your calls. Oh,
and here's some lovely texts and I'll get to those.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
He is.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
I wait your inspired chat tonight, Marcus. Do you know
the brand of bikes being recalled because they have no breaks? No,
but you'd see if they had no breaks, wouldn't you? Marcus.
Last Friday, your topic was road tolls around ten permet
texts from a lady to say she lived on Northcote Road,

(09:40):
Northcote Point during the nineteen sixties and lived next door
to mister Paltridge, who worked on the Harbor Bridge toll booths.
His name was Ronald. He died nineteen eighty six on
his daughter in law. It was nice to hear about
him from Anne. Lovely text. Thank you, Marcus. Big balloon
festival in Hamilton each year. Want to rip it chairs,
Michael delpmn, thank you. Surely ballooney would be the worst

(10:04):
form of transport and history. I'd be keener to be
a human cannibal shit have a cannon and put my
faith in a giant blowtorch and some canvas sheets and
a wicked basket madness. Marcus whited up. Our balloon festival
is still heard every year twenty twenty five is at easter.
They will rise, Marcus. I remember the two thousand Olympics.

(10:28):
The women's hockey team that Mandy Smith was part of
was uge popular. They were very fast and skillful, say
with Jimmerfiln playing at three Olympics, but also part of
a group of strong athletic women. They are great to watch,
fast and skillful from Jilly, good on your Jilly, Marcus.
To most of the world, it's field hockey. Did ice

(10:52):
hockey get any funding from high performance sport? We know
too much about ice hockey, but I think high performance sport.
They're into the Olympics, aren't. They've got gold fever. I
do hope they'll be too excited about ice hockey because
we're not kind of going to get Olympic gold, are we? Anyway?
Nineteen past eight. My name is Marcus.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Welcome.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Oh the other thing I want to mention also observation
from me. Have been in the Big Smoke for a
couple of days. But it does seem to me that
I don't know if you agree with this, But what
I suspect is that I don't know how to say

(11:29):
this without freaking people out too much. It feels to
me that the pendulum has swung and that physically shopping
for presents for Christmas is now no longer worth doing.

(11:54):
Most things you want to buy you can't buy because
they're only available online. It's happened very quickly, and I
certainly sense that that. Yeah, you go and try and
find things, they're just not there because retail suddenly seems
to have it's not performing like it used to perform.

(12:17):
There's not the range, there's not the stock. The shops
have closed down, it's all gone online. Are people experiencing that?
Do you think that's a fair summation. That's certainly the
impression I got today doing some or trying to do
some retail tasks. Anyway, Marcus nearly prediction. Imagine it needs
to do with no chocolates because they're really expensive this Christmas.

(12:38):
Thank you, Marcus. I think ballooning is rather one of
the safer air transportation options, particularly based on how few
tragedy crashes there have been throughout the world. I'm looking
forward to go out to balloon next year. Wow, whereabouts, Marcus,
there is a huge gem up on the right out

(13:00):
of fun Day. Anyone know why? Thanks? So we've got
to situate north or south out of Fugarde. Let me
know about that. I'll do the nz TA and check
on that on the old Wako Katahi. If you've got
any more information about the road and fun a day,
let me know, because I don't think they'd be prone
to traffic jamming, would it. So I'm on the websites

(13:21):
for that people chick State Highways cheap? Is what a
phone number? I'm clicking on something now. I think they
might be a road closure, But as I say, it's

(13:42):
a terrible website and every understand what it's saying. No,
I can't tell you about that. Could someone let me
know why the traffic's greved and fun today? Marcus? Do
you mean field hockey will die and us in and
all worldwide? Because the international game is growing? The Chinese
women's team almost won the last Olympics. I don't think

(14:03):
it's growing. There might be a few new country are
taking on because they say it's an easy metal, but
I don't think it's growing. dB Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
You've gone up another notch of jealousy on my list
of things that you've done that I haven't really. Yeah, yeah,
I've never managed to talk myself into a hottier balloon.
I've done a favorite of other flies. I've never got
into a hottier balloon, and I would love to have
a crack at that.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Why don't you do what that guide in America with
those weather balloons in his dick chair and the BB rifle.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
I think I'd like a little bit more control than
the stratosphere with no more control than the BB gun.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
That guy nearly got up and it any got up
into the jet stream. It wasn't going well from there.
So he was a remarkable guy.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
I think things could go really bad. Also, if one
of them pops, you can't reinflate it.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
No, that's right. So yeah, he had to have some
basic comes quite. Have you got a plan?

Speaker 3 (15:10):
dB?

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Have you got a plan for your when you're going
to go ballooning.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
The food turns up? I'll say yes, it's basically why
I plan. I mean other things like I used to
fly planes with motors, Yes, some people call them blinders. Yes,
where of course I control where I go. But three balloons,
of course, they really are the of the of the weather.

(15:36):
And we've had a few beat disasters, and I'm sure
breezes kicked up and they haven't managed to round early
enough not to stand in the sea.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
It was one of there was one of christ jutes
that went quite bad. Yeah, and that was that was
before the terrible one and the wided upper. But yeah,
I dober and then I think that that stopped the
balloon tourism and christ judge someone to let me know
more about that, because I'm sure we'll have some balloonists
out there. But yeah, I think that was kind of
the end for them.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
Yeah, and well, a lot of it's called an adventure
tourism and rules have changed, so like the marama the
gliding out of a marima, which were used to be
done as a club with them to become adventure tourism,
and the rulebook for that become became untenable, so they

(16:23):
had closed down. They just couldn't run it as I
can't remember which part of the rulebook it becomes under.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
How that safety We'll talk more about the TV. I've
got to give the headlines. But nice to hear from you.
Thank you, twenty nine away from nine.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
A very good text here and it's good Marcus not
wishing to be controversial, but I think Christmas has done
its dash We've received five cards this year. Twenty years
ago we got fifty work Christmas parties at tiresome as
getting very drunk is discouraged and companies don't want to
pay for Texis homes. People have bought what they want
for Christmas and the Black Friday sales. It's over, I

(17:00):
tell you from Nick. I've thought that for a long while, Marcus,
reballooning been the worst for of transportation. I would rather
use a balloon than new form of council transportation. Loll
loll loull. Marcus. Just like you, I hated that conspiracy theories,
but you sometimes sound like you need more into that

(17:22):
in your life. Wow. Brilliant, Jan Marcus, Welcome, Hello Marcus.

Speaker 6 (17:30):
I just wanted to tell you I went up in
the hot air balloon in Tanzania and we went across
the SEREENKII.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
What okay, tell me all about this?

Speaker 6 (17:39):
Okay, this was goodness me I was. This is thirty
years ago. I'm seventeen now and this I was about
forty then. And yes, so it was something I always
wanted to do and was incredibly well organized.

Speaker 7 (17:55):
Like you.

Speaker 6 (17:56):
We had to get up very early in the morning
and they blew the balloon up and off we went,
and it was fabulous because all the animals were racing
along underneath you, and we saw the sun come up
and it was fabulous. And then when the basket came down,

(18:17):
they were waiting with a champagne breakfast. I'll tell you what.
It was just the most wonderful experience that I'll never forget.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
And there were giraffes.

Speaker 6 (18:25):
There were I didn't see any giraffes, but there were
the world of beasts, and oh, I couldn'ess it was
so long ago, Mark, because I can't remember all the animals,
but I don't distinctly remember giraffes. But as you said,
it was silent and other than when they sort of
sort of had to rise up. But yeah, no, if

(18:47):
you're going on a balloon ride.

Speaker 8 (18:48):
Do that one.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
And I quite like the idea of the Serengeti too,
because if you if you come down in the wrong place,
you'd be amongst the wild animals, wouldn't you.

Speaker 6 (18:56):
Yes, yes, or you were. And there was a vehicle
that sort of followed along and they were waiting for us,
and it set up this tape with a beautiful breakfast
and a Gingham tablecloth, and yeah, I know it was wonderful,
unforgeutiful experience.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Did you see hip hippopotami hippopotamus?

Speaker 6 (19:20):
No, no, no, no, elephants. No, we didn't. I didn't
see that. I just saw it. I tell you what.

Speaker 9 (19:27):
It was so long ago.

Speaker 6 (19:29):
I just remember the animals. I'd have to go back
and look at my journals.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Oh, because you wouldn't have it on your cell phone.
They have to take notes.

Speaker 6 (19:36):
And no, there were no cell phones.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
I'm quite like the sound of that. Okay, so we've
got ballooning in the Serengetti. Where have you been ballooning?
How good was it? It's about ballooning tonight and hockey.
Very good, Jen, Thank you for that, Marcus. Years after
the christ accident, the JTB stop balloon tourism for the Japanese,
which was a large part of the market at the time.
It certainly, I certainly wouldn't go on one chairs, Nigel,

(20:02):
whatuld you call a form of transportation? Mike, In case
you're wondering, I'm pretty sure you can change course in
the balloon by going up and down into different air currents. Marcus,
can we balloon across the cook straight and ditch the ferries,
but would they be rail enabled or rail capable? Marcus,

(20:23):
hockey would be more exciting for players was suspended under
small balloons. You see what people are getting very good
at mixing the two topics. Yeah, so don't we say
what next thing? What they should do is dissecting the
balloons or something micro shipping the hockey players whether they

(20:44):
should be micro chipping the Christmas sales. Get in touch
by name's Marcus. Welcome. It's all about ballooning and hockey
and the drove. It's already got too many topics going around.

Speaker 4 (20:59):
I quite like that.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
I mean, you know the week before Christmas talk about
you chuck the kitchen, sinking it and find what people
are going to go on and on it because people's
minds are scrambled. I've locked in the belly of the
beast of Christmas retail today and people are scrambled. I
can guarantee it. By the way, to the person that

(21:21):
told me they are in day can't go to Vanaha
two they've gone and they've landed. So I think Port
Veela is cut away from the airport because of landslides,
but they will be having they'll be taking diggers and
things up. I would think there are armies, they'll know

(21:41):
what to do. And I think all of us are
excited that the air force is helping huge, hugely significant
in New Zealand, the nie Van to the people of
Vana two in our workforce, temporary work force. Certainly when

(22:04):
I spent the air in Cromwell, very big community from
doing a lot of the fruit picking, a lot of
the work there seasonal. I think we come across in
that pickpic pic Marcus. We did a hottier balloon of
the Pyramids and tot who who. I can't Mexico as

(22:26):
the sun rose best experience I've ever had, yep, And
I'll tell you what an all clinger'd quite often see
them ballooning. And then of course there was a Ray
Smith that did he get involved in ballooning. I think
he did. There mean some great characters in ballooning. But yeah,

(22:54):
I don't know where the ultimate bucket list ballooning trip
would be. Probably the vineyards of France would be pretty good,
would it. Anyway? Get in touch, Marcus till we in hockey.
You got a feel for hockey. They always seem to
be good hockey for getting grants to get new fields,
don't they. There's always sort of astro turf they're putting

(23:16):
town to rejuvenate the sport. But yeah, no medals, no money.
That's the way it goes. You don't get the medals,
you don't get the money, which I think is of
it brutal. Surely if you're not getting the medals, you
should get the money to make you better. So you
do get the medals. I mean you could crack that
egg two ways. Still trying to work out what's the

(23:37):
situation where the traffic coming south of Fangade, Not quite
sure if it's south of North or south. Already got
the forces. They are suffering the blowback from the situation
with the boat that went under the reef. Someone is
texted says, hope the Air Force knows how to turn
off the autopilot. Oh, yes, we would, they're coming from,
aren't we. With the jokes. He would get the Navy
to help dot dot dot dot and pyramid trips. My

(23:59):
name is Marcus Walker and pallooning in New Zealand. I
don't even know they still did it, but they must
be doing it. In Warnacer. You go up and you
come down, Marcus played first fifteen for Todd on the
Boys for three years, two years quick at. No one
wants to get in front of those heavy hitters in
hockey with that ball flying how it moves. Also, being

(24:21):
left handed doesn't help you playing. You can't play if
you left handed?

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Can you?

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Or is it just polo? Can you play hockey if
you left handed?

Speaker 7 (24:29):
It's bad.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
If you can't, yeah, I don't think you can play.
That's bad. AH should take that to the Human Rights Commission. Marcus. Interested,
how many of your listeners feel like I do? Christmas
used to be fun filled and the bullet was amazing.
Now it's like a finished line and a month long
marathon where everyone wants everything completed, and so you work

(24:52):
yourself for the bone, and come Christmas you get sick
from all the stress and overworking. I'm hopeful one day
it'll be like it used to be, maybe when I'm retired,
if I ever retire. I like the text that says
it's over. Don't want to be controversial, Marcus, but I
think Christmas has done its dash. How long were we

(25:14):
been doing Christmas for? How long are we actually? Seriously,
how long are we doing Christmas for? When did they
start would it be five hundred years? Do you reckon?
I'm not gonna do in the dark ages? Are they?
They wouldn't be doing it in a lot of the
time because they wouldn't have had the spare time the surfs.
I don't know how long people have been celebrating Christmas.

(25:38):
I wonder how long in the world we've been doing that.
But look, getting touched one of us, Marcus. Today is
the date that consists of the text to day is
the date that Kirsty McCole, who sang on Fairytale of
New York, drowned. I don't think she drowned. I think
she got by a water skier, which always seemed to
be a very unfairy tale way to meet your demise.

(25:59):
That's why a thing happened to her. Would you call
that drowning, Marcus? I had a lifestyle block at West
Melted and Christitch. Hottier balloons used to drive the ostriches crazy.
Well they would I think it was a giant egg.

(26:19):
Your animals, I don't think would like a Hottier balloon.
They're creepy, sort of coming over you with their bright colors, Marcus.
Hottier balloons are spectacular but not easy control of a
breeze gets up, you get down, and dairy cows that
are normally pleasant go into a tails up mess dampede

(26:41):
at the side of them. Haha. Owls did anyway? Term
tito so animals, farmers that sort of stuff anyway. Yeah, yeah,
and the other thing too. You had a lifestyle like
West Melting and Christchitch. Hoty balloons used to drive the

(27:02):
Ostriches crazy, which bigs have thought, why are you taking
you Ostrich's hottier ballooning? Are we that sort of show?
I suppose we are fifteen away from nine one of them.
It's talking about hotier ballooning tonight. We've got people that
have done it in the Serengetty. It's hard to hear
the words seiring giddy without front of the song, isn't it?

Speaker 4 (27:28):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (27:28):
I love that song. Yeah anyway, it's got all the
great words in that one. Hold your horses, Ellen, I'll
be with you. They will take Ellen. It's Marcus.

Speaker 10 (27:39):
Good evening, Hey, Marcus Allen.

Speaker 11 (27:43):
How are you going?

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (27:43):
Good?

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Ellen?

Speaker 4 (27:46):
Good? Now.

Speaker 10 (27:46):
I've been hottier ballooning in two places, England and Capitoc.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah yeah, wow, Okay.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
I mean.

Speaker 10 (27:56):
The hardest arts coming down. In my view both cases
you end up flat on your side with the basket,
and they're not a very controlled thing. Fine going up,
fine going along, but coming downs hard.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Now, if I remember, right, are the drills about landing
you do kind of they teach you to do something
like like fliction nees or something, is that right? And
hold the side?

Speaker 10 (28:21):
Oh yeah, But as I say, you end up flat
on your face most of the time. I mean I
always I thought, I mean, England was great and Cappadocia
just unbelievable, you know, and like you say, it's very quiet.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
I thought.

Speaker 10 (28:34):
The thing that was interesting from my point of view
is I have a horrible hit for heights, but didn't
bother me.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
No ballooning, because it's quite gradual, isn't it, And you're
quite calm. You don't even know by the time you're
high it's been so yeah, that's a good point.

Speaker 10 (28:50):
It's a strange it's a strange sensation, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Well, I'm surprised you went tho if you've never hit
for height, Dellen, because you wouldn't have known beforehand, would
you that it was going to be calm?

Speaker 9 (29:01):
No?

Speaker 10 (29:01):
No, Well, that's the thing. But no beautiful days and
we had great experiences. But and I guess you're right,
you know, would I do it again?

Speaker 3 (29:09):
No?

Speaker 10 (29:10):
Not really?

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Is this something about I think, is this something about
Cappadopia that lends itself to why has it all happened there?
Because it's kind of like ballooning Central, isn't it.

Speaker 9 (29:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (29:22):
I think it's cheap. I think the hot air off
the rocks, you remember, you know how those rocks with
the hotel, with the hotels and them. So I think
it's just and it's very picturesque. So I think a
combination of those three things. And I mean the Turks
are amazing. You know, you do worry a little bit
about their expertise, I guess, but that was fine. Which

(29:45):
one was lovely, you know, fields of England and all
that kind of stuff, And yeah, it was a great experiences.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Tear from me. Yeah, I think I'd be worried about Cappadopia,
not that I've ever been there. Someone text us, they're
very curious to know what the Serengidi song is. To
text about the full lyrics starting with here the drums
echo we tonight, but she hears only whispers of some
quiet conversation. She's coming in twelve thirty flight her moonlit

(30:14):
wings reflect the stars that guide me towards salvation. Is
that about ballooning? Maybe it's one of the great songs
because of the sort of the bongos. Someone's text their
prediction for next year, Airships due to make a comeback?
Did the school project on airships making a comeback? That

(30:37):
seemed to be the thing then, and we've waited fifty
more years of their never making a comeback. Marcus number
one thing. Balloons always and Hamilton lots of them. Second
of all. Christmas began around six point sixty BC in Rome.

(30:58):
Goodness that early balloons? Would you call them a form
of transper I know people have gone around the world
on them, but not easily and pretty much They're going
up into the sky and the world was revolving below them,

(31:18):
wasn't it? Balloons? I wonder where they get those ones?
You get those ones that are made in different shapes.
I never know where they make those. I'm curious to
talk about anything ballooning tonight. That would have themed the
show too late in the year to theme it. But
I am curious to know about ballooning. I'd be on

(31:40):
some junket. I'd caught the train to Allie Springs and
went ballooning Elie Springs up there was good, and then
we went on a jet to Uluru, which is ears Rock,
but didn't get to We just drove across and d
flew across and on one of those Flying Doctor I

(32:02):
think we're in the Flying Doctor plane. Actually said a man.
Don't forget what it was, but I think, well there
was a jet I can't remember. Seemed to be a
waste of av guest to me. But anyway, junkets do
what junkets do. Eight to nine, my name is Marcus.
Welcome also hockey. What future for hockey? And that's going

(32:22):
to be one of those games that I think in
New Zealand, if we're not careful, it's going to die.
Is it going to be a bad thing? What role
does hockey play? Because all these artificial fields they've built
at great expense to save the sport. But Gosha, you
never see it televised, and yet anytime you see anyone
playing it, you never see a soul watching it.

Speaker 6 (32:43):
And why not?

Speaker 2 (32:45):
It's not that different from football. The balls and play
a lot, just no one watches it Good evening, Andrew,
It's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 12 (32:55):
Hi. How are you good?

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Andrew?

Speaker 12 (32:57):
Good? I hope you have a good Christmas and Merry
Christmas to you, to you and your family. You okay, No,
I just want to I've been watching a bit of
the Yankee News, going between from news station to the
news station and trying to pick bits of the truth
out and and uh, but they've all agreed on one
thing that you know, the young the youngsters what do

(33:20):
they call them, gen z or gen whatever they call
they're getting in America. And you know how all US
Western countries follow America six months to a year later
or wherever. They're all getting back into going to the malls,
going to the shops, doing the inter getting realizing that

(33:41):
the interaction with people is all part of the experience.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
You know.

Speaker 12 (33:46):
So I won't I won't take long, and they'll catch
on over here again.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
What are they just go there to hang though, are they? Yeah?

Speaker 12 (33:55):
But it's it's picking up the business, Yeah, because I
mean generally it's bringing you know, bring brings. I mean
they've got to eat, they've got to drink, they've you know,
plus it brings in other people think oh, go back
to the mall. You know, it's it's all lively again.
So it's doing well over there apparently, But you know

(34:16):
how vague that all is. But I just want to
let you know that, and Andrew headline from Retail Wire magazine.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Yeah, gen Z may save this shopping mall. How malls
attract younger consumers.

Speaker 12 (34:32):
Yep, that's it.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
That's it.

Speaker 12 (34:33):
You're right to it, say, yeah, yeah, So I just
want to let you know, don't you pisimistic because it
takes about six months to a year for us to
sort of.

Speaker 11 (34:42):
Pick it up.

Speaker 12 (34:42):
But we're all like little Americas now, so you know.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
Why we've I guess it's the media. But thank you
so much for that. There, Andrew, there we go. But
a retail a bit of ballooning. Nothing about micro chipping cats.
That doesn't sound like a very fun topic, does it.
Microchipping sounds like it's been going on for it. They
don't want to desext them, just microchip them. Who's behind it?
You like this one of the green members. But it's
just I mean, it's probably the right thing to do, Marcus.

(35:15):
A multi engined aircraft landing with an engine out is
a precautionary landing. A glider landing with no engine is
a controlled forced landing. A balloon landing is a controlled crash.
I mean, surely the worst shoes for driving would be slippers.
That's right there in the name, isn't it. That's your
worst one?

Speaker 4 (35:36):
Be that?

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Then the Gendal's there'd be my take on that one.
Traffic update, Cindy Marcus, welcome in coming.

Speaker 13 (35:43):
Ah, Hi Marcus, yet in coming here. I'm just on
the Wykato Expressway again at last. But I was driving
Hamilton to Auckland and fairly left the city and got
to about what they call resolution drive. And I was
on the expressway for a little way. And then they
don't burn you off, no warning, like they seem to

(36:05):
have closed it down.

Speaker 14 (36:06):
I'm hitting north Goodness, Yes, I don't know.

Speaker 13 (36:11):
It's just cones everywhere. I mean, what a time of
year to do it. Yeah, And I've just driven all
the back way the old Great House roads through I
know how much?

Speaker 2 (36:26):
How much longer has it taken?

Speaker 13 (36:29):
Oh, I'm about eighty ks away from Auckland now.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
And I left over an hour ago, okay, And I've
googled up Revolution drive and I think it's resolution drive,
Am I right?

Speaker 13 (36:41):
Resolution drive?

Speaker 2 (36:44):
I thought you said revolution. I thought what revolution? In
Hamilton they name that road after? Okay, so I'm seeing
where you are now, okay, wow?

Speaker 13 (36:52):
Yeah yeah, quite a big section. And and just you know,
I wish I knew who set that up because the
detail assigns were really poor. Yeah, very they were really
spaced apart. Like I found it really hard to fallow.

Speaker 8 (37:06):
Luckily I.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Should have go on Google Maps. Do you think you'll
be home for Christmas? Cindy?

Speaker 13 (37:15):
Hopefully I'm behind tonight, But.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Sounds like I ever heard a Walton's Mountain sticks in
my heart. That episode of Walton's Mountain when John Boy
wasn't going to be home for Christmas or ever that
I'll tell you what I think that was always the
best Christmas special was the Walton's Christmas Special. No, no,
John Boy was coming home from the Spanish War or
from a blizzard or you know the other thing for

(37:42):
Chris two things at Christmas. I like, right, the Waltons
Christmas Special and probably the highlight for me for Christmas
every year was Once upon a Time, And I apologize
to go down a nostalgic road route route the week
before Christmas, and people will back me up on this.
Milko's well, the week before Christmas, the milkman would bring

(38:04):
round milk that would have a fear best of fiend
foil top to the milk. So always it was always
a silver foil cap to the milk, or a blue
white one for the homogenized. But for Christmas it would
have Oh it was exciting that they do that. Gee,

(38:26):
what a great thing to do to get special Christmasy
foil for the top of the milk. Anyone else want
to talk about that. It's a big deal in the day.
What would you call those things? Were they the milk
to what were the foil? Do you know what they
were called? They called lids? Andy Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 14 (38:47):
How are you balloons? Yeah, we're doing a game. We
we're coming back then and we're in a place called
or in Chat Egypt. Thanks pretty prestoricy for think there.
But if you having my soul, rickety Dan, and you
think they all get into the hot blow and everything

(39:08):
went well, lifted up probably maybe three or four hundred
just doub the ground trembled around for it half an
ear over. The they do it. They go with the
Valley of the Kings, which is pointless because everything is
kind of build into cut into the hill, so you
can't actually say anything is going over the valley. However,
when it comes to lane, the guy didn't know where's lane.
What gets gets lower trembling over these kind of pett

(39:33):
fields and and she haanning. Yet there's this then this
this like an old twitter high sort of thing, which
is says, and he goes towards them. The things driving
around all these roads pass until we get down low
head and we just kind of drop and there's nothing

(39:54):
kind of graceful. We had a hottie balloon, so the
thing just tipped and just the top of the basket
just hit the h they'll get a shark and all
kind of roll out. But it was just heaven. So
it really slow, but maybe just felt like it happened
really slow. It didn't feel like we're in danger, but

(40:14):
it was just those It was just such a such
an egypt operation that you appreciate.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Yeah, and you don't want you don't want to get
into into stereotyping different cultures, but ballooning something you'd want
them to have the right Civil Civil Aviation Act kind
of behind it wouldn't wouldn't you You want to know
that they're kind of that they're checking out the people
that they are. Actually they're not letting their cousin ride
the balloon because they can't make it.

Speaker 4 (40:39):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 14 (40:39):
I think that's exactly heavens. But you're kind of just
you know, when you're tribling, when you're young, you're just tunure,
you forget those things.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
What year we're talking and they oh, not like long.

Speaker 14 (40:48):
Ago, twenty ten, it's about September twenty ten.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Because you know, years ago, because you know that luck
Saw in Egypt was the home of the world's worst
ballooning tragedy twenty thirteen. Nineteen people of twenty one died.

Speaker 14 (41:05):
I think, yeah, yeah, I think, and it was Yeah,
I think I'm looking.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Now, were you before we after before that?

Speaker 14 (41:11):
Yeah? Yeah, okay, well it's quite a fewe that, there's
quite a few to do it. But you know, yeah,
you're in a place that thousands of years a thousand
thousand year history, and it's it's it's not you know,
the pyramids are the most advanced sort of engineering over there,
and everything else is that it's the country. It's that

(41:34):
everything else takes long, long time to build, and I
don't think they have the whole rulves and regulations.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
It actually wasn't the worst ballooning accent. The worst ballooning accent,
obviously was the Hindenburg, but it Seys and lux of Elia.
The King's concerns over past his safety had been raised
from time to time, with multiple crashes reported in two
thousand and seven, two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine.
That's your end sounds that we had every right to Well,

(42:04):
I mean, you can't judge your instant because you're already
on it, weren't you.

Speaker 14 (42:06):
Yeah, yeah, But I wouldn't do the game because it
was okay, it's peaceful there except for when they when
they you know, across the gets up and when you
land and you yes, but hey, good story.

Speaker 15 (42:20):
You never forget it.

Speaker 14 (42:21):
And yeah, it's not.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
And we're talking about ballooning in the world. We're going
to serig Getty, We're going Luxe or Pyramid, Valley of
the Kings. I wasn't a donkey for that. Why I
had to do the ballooning wasn't an option. We're also
doing Cappadocia with the balloon's Turkey you'll see that on
Instagram for a visual Stephanie.

Speaker 16 (42:42):
It's good morning, Marcus.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Morning, Stephanie.

Speaker 16 (42:45):
Yeah, that road between Horror two and Tearoffrey has been
closed at night for months.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Oh wow, Okay, it's.

Speaker 16 (42:55):
Just an ongoing I can't stay it wrong on on ere.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
An ongoing and ongoing work in progress.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
Yeah for a.

Speaker 6 (43:05):
Last yes, really yep.

Speaker 16 (43:10):
They started it uhout October November twenty twinkie, and there's
been going since then. Okay, and lately every night the
motorway is closed.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
It's going to be interesting some of you because the
Desert road's closing also, isn't it.

Speaker 16 (43:28):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it just means everyone comes over to
where I come down through National Park, so yeah, or idiots.

Speaker 9 (43:37):
To deal with.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
To get a break, Stephanie, hopefully Christmas New Year. Okay, Well,
hope you have a good break and stand touch. Nice
to hear from you, Stephaney. Thank you. Fifteen past nine texts.
Keep those going. There's been some rippers some of you guys.
You could text for New Zealand figure out the hockey
players you got to context at the Olympics. Marcus, never
ever try to drive a car with ski boots on

(44:05):
especially in menu regards Graham or flippers want to drive
cross handed. Marcus aid, is normal at night between Topai
and Tadapa closed at night. Marcus, I just came north
from the Bombay Hills. There was probably twelve ambulances and
several cop cars heading south about an hour ago. So

(44:28):
south of the Bombays twelve ambulances and several cop cars
dand we on it. Nothing I can see. We're on
that too, So that's a lot. That twelve emuinences is
more than I've seen for a while. Marcus, ice hockey
is more exciting to watch them. Field hockey definitely faster
and more physical. Yeah, I've often been fascinated by hockey

(44:51):
because I can't work out how they managed to fund
it for so long, because there's no other revenue streams
for it. You look at rugby, there's revenue streams. You
look for football, the A League, there be revenue streams.
Hockey there's nothing, nothing, And it's discriminating against the left handers.

(45:12):
But that's not my that's not my lane. Isn't about
the hockey lane. I am curious, though, Marcus. When I
was a kid now sixty five, my mother always had
a stainless steel bowl of fat in the fridge and
a packet of dripping OMG for gravy, etc. Today I

(45:34):
saw a packet of dripping the souper market. Is that
better than the cooking oils we buy today? My sister
and brothers are not fat from that stuff. Really interested
what you think? Cheers the old go back to fat discussion?
You want to get the podcast for that one is
a fee bit of appetite for that sort of discussion.

(45:59):
By the way, the big balloon crash and luck saw
it was a balloon that caught fire, leaking fuel line.
The pilot left to safety, but the rest died, came down,
and then a cust of wooden came in. So it
sounds like a terrible combination of events. We are talking

(46:23):
and ballooning. Also we are talking is it the end
of Christmas? When jeeps creepers two weeks ago on to
move it? Now we're saying at the end of it.
I'm not saying that a text door has said this,
And what's the worst footwear to drive? And is it
the slipper it's in the name, or is it ski boots.

(46:44):
I'm not saying this to be humorous. But obviously some
people need to be warned about some of their footwear
that they are driving. Most of my footwear choices are
pretty good for driving. I would think, what's bad if
there's something rolling down underneath the paddles and you don't
bother to pick it up, like a spray can or something,
that's always bad. Marcus. I did the hoty ballooning in Cappadocia, Turkey.

(47:09):
Incredible control. The guy dropped down slowly so the barket
basket brushed against the tops of trees. I was able
to pick a leaf before he lifted up again. Amazing.
Not sure I'd do it again, not as brave. Young
Hindenburg was not a hot air balloon. What does sound

(47:31):
wiki ped It was the deadliest ballooning accident in the
history since the Hindenburg disaster. It's a balloon, though, Was
he gonna say it's ballooning, gonna say it's a dirigible?
I'm gonna have a texting with saying about a dirigible. Aunt,
I can just see it. How do you get jobs
on the road A hot balloon? Indrigible? I'd say it

(47:54):
was a balloon or it was a steel frame. That's
what caught fire the glue. It's a blimp. Was the
Hindenburger balloon? You know what I mean? Was the Hindenburger balloon?
Was the Hindenburger balloon? No, the Hindenburg was a rigid aircraft,

(48:16):
not a balloon. We'll tell that to Wikipedia, Marcus. I
broke my ankle and at ed. They put me in
a moon boot and said you can't drive. I'd driven
myself to D's and my left foot, so I drove
home using my left foot on the accelerator. I got
really good using the moonboot on the accelerator, just had
to get the feel right. It was fine, very bad

(48:36):
because it's illegal. I think the moonboot is probably the
worst footwear to drive a year, right, I think Vanessa.
She broke her foot and had a moonboot, and we're
the car with a hand accelerator. I didn't enjoy driving.
I felt like it was I was playing up with
my hemispheres of her brain. Someone has said that ice

(48:59):
skates to be the worst shoes to drive, and I'm inclined.
I'm inclined to agree. Timos to Marcus, Cold evening and welcome.

Speaker 14 (49:06):
I can say I don't think clubs would be too
good either. It's just silly of me, but it's me
they have more seriously, they maybe you and your family
and everyone on your where you work, have a good,
safe Christmas. And so I was driving this from Cookie

(49:26):
up to town today and largely I think we're pretty good,
you know, on the high way, and there are a
couple that went and I stick to the left lane,
leave the other lane free for passing. I will use
it if one passing, but chivenly, I stayed left as

(49:48):
much as possible, and I just thought to myself, well,
you know, if everyone relaxes a bit before the holidays,
leave the ego at home before they jump in the car.
And if you get someone who's in your boot, you know,
on your tail, at the first opportunity, if you can

(50:12):
pull to the side, do so and just let them go.
I mean, they're going to fall into a few categories.
They're just a dickhead, or they could have an emergency situation,
you know, yep, and you know, probably speeding might ultimately
help them. They could crash or whatever. But that's you know,
we can't do anything about. Selling us is a good

(50:34):
idea to let people get on their way whatever is
motivating them, because there could be genuine reasons, and yeah,
just try try not to take things personally.

Speaker 8 (50:48):
You know.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Was was it driving particularly bad that you saw today.

Speaker 11 (50:54):
No, it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
It was.

Speaker 11 (50:57):
Ninety eight. But it was just a couple of exceptions
that I thought, well, you know, it's it's fine, you know,
and everyone Jimile he was hanging to the left and
near a couple of hours that were just sitting out
in the right hand laying for no particular reason. So anyway,

(51:21):
that's that's just my Christmas Eve thought, you know, just.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
I don't know, let him go quite Tommy, I appreciate it.
Thank you for that. We got contots from twenty six
past nine. Warick. It's Marcus.

Speaker 17 (51:34):
Good evening, Macus, good to talk to you again. I
just wanted to just give some give people some a
little thought about driving out on the highways also in
the holidays. There's something that's occurred to me that you know,
a lot of people they feel that when there's a
caren friend of them, they want to get past and

(51:55):
have clear road in front of themselves. But I want
people to realize that once you do that, you're not
longer in control of your life. You know, you you're
in you're basically at the or the ability of people
that are coming the opposite way and they're overtaking maneuvers,
whether they can judge speed and distance, whether whether they're patient,

(52:17):
you know, whether they're even distracted. You'll put yourself in
a very vulnerable position. So you know, if everyone likes
to feel that when you when you're driving, you're in
control of your own destiny. But like I say, when
you've got clear road ahead of you, you're you're no
longer in control of your destiny. You're leaving it up
to random drivers to judge the overtaking maneuvers coming towards you.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
You're also at risk if you're a close follower, you're
at risk of the cast slaves on its picks too
quickly and you got into its bag.

Speaker 17 (52:47):
Well, I was going to say, if you've got a
carry that's in front of you, that's traveling at a
reasonable speed, then just follow it at a safe distance.

Speaker 15 (52:54):
You know you can judge.

Speaker 17 (52:55):
You know, just think that person you.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
Love, you love being behind another car.

Speaker 17 (52:59):
Do you I like being behind another car that's traveling
at a decent speed. Yeah, doing the speed and I'm
happy just to sit there, you know, fifty meters behind
and then you know it sounds I don't want it
to sound callous, but you know you have got a
buffer zone between you and people coming in with a
opposite direction. You know that it's tailgating other people and

(53:23):
pulling out behind caravans and that you know, so if
someone is doing one hundred k's, you know that's that's
fast enough out on the highways. You know, a lot
of the country I live in the country, and the
country roads, you know, the sure the speed them, it's
one hundred k's. But I mean you're talking about roads
that have very little shoulder, you know, can turn into
two bends and corners quite abruptly.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
You know.

Speaker 17 (53:46):
They're not a lot of places in the world there
would know no way there would be one hundred k roads,
but they are in New Zealand, and a lot of
people feel that that's how they should be driving. And
it's you know, there's not a lot of room for era.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Nice to hear from you, Warwick. Thank you, Marcus. In
one week's time, Christmas is over and it's Boxing Day.
As much as Christmas days and board has been quoit
toy with the loved ones. A lot of people stress
of the day when it's not needed and can be avoided.
Good luck avoiding it, Marcus. Tell the people wanting to
drive on the Waikato Expressway to stop complaining. They got
it built and maintained and don't have to pay the driver,

(54:18):
not like the new roads in the Totong area. Marcus,
I agree with what caller that caller about letting speeding
drivers pass. My philosophy is they're obviously the hurried of
an extent. I don't want to be involved. All people
loving pulling over, aren't they all? Let me just get

(54:39):
out of the way texts. According to the Cambridge Dictionary,
although the Hindenburg could be considered a hydrogen balloon, it
iss subclassified as a dirigible as it can be steared,
guided or directed. Marcus, by any knowing you and uncle
wants to know whatever happened to all those old mister
whiopy trucks? They're not it? Pick apart or do they

(54:59):
have their own truck symmetry?

Speaker 3 (55:00):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Why do you never see a mister whippy van in
the in the in the part cemeter tree. It's a
question for you to answer tonight, Marcus, I can't speak
because my ninety three tournic co ride will start to
smoke at any keys we're talking. We're the most interesting
place you've been in a balloon? And what about hockey?

(55:26):
They don't want to give him any money because I
didn't do very well at the Olympics. But how will
they get betiful they get any money? Good evening roads,
it's Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 8 (55:37):
Oh seasons, Christians and the mirror Christmas. I think you
rose and all the best of the new year for
you and your family.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Thank you rose.

Speaker 8 (55:47):
Now about it was probably about forty years ago, so
I still live in a little place called Cantident by
Filistin and.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
And the Yep Yep.

Speaker 8 (56:01):
And every Saturday morning you'd wake up early. You'd wake
up with this noise and you look at sid and
honestly there would be sans you were so balloons in
the air and it was just amazing. It was really
really beautiful.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Why was it such a good place for ballooning just
because you could go in any direction?

Speaker 4 (56:22):
Is that what it was?

Speaker 8 (56:24):
Well, I'm not too sure that there was a lot
of balloons and they did that every Saturday, but it
must just be an area that.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
It's not to Yeah, and and they'd starting cards and
they'd go eastward. Day is that what direction they'd go normally?

Speaker 3 (56:43):
Yes, okay?

Speaker 2 (56:44):
And whe would they end up? Well, they go as
far as Marsterton, they.

Speaker 8 (56:49):
Would be No, they went past Cartsan, Yeah, would have
gone ended up in.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Bustan perhaps, Oh yeah, that way they went that way
on Missus Pheatherston.

Speaker 8 (57:04):
Yeah, goodness that they would have gone. But they would
have just gone with that.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (57:12):
We're balloons leaned?

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Did you go up yourself?

Speaker 8 (57:16):
Good lord? No?

Speaker 4 (57:17):
Why why not?

Speaker 3 (57:20):
I know?

Speaker 8 (57:23):
Tear of my feature?

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Really ever been on a plane?

Speaker 8 (57:27):
I have? And I don't sickly like that?

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Oh yeah, okay, I quite like a plane.

Speaker 8 (57:37):
Oh I'm saying that I just have a motorbike and
it's not.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
No, it's not terra. But nice to hear from me,
thank you. Oh by the way, look I threw that
away as a topic. But when we had milk and bottles,
what did you call that thing that was on the top.
Was it called a lid? That foil thing? Was it
called the cap? Do you want to remember?

Speaker 18 (58:06):
That was called?

Speaker 2 (58:07):
You'd collect them for the blind? Who remembers what that
was called and who remembers was it nationwide that they
once Christmas they would convert that to like have holly
and things on it. It was quite a big deal.

(58:31):
There'd always be silver or blue for homogenized or red
for cream. Ah. Yes, but once a year they had
these delightful things on the top that were in fact
I'd like to see some images of them. Actually, I'm
sure if I get on some nostalgia Facebook page, they

(58:55):
always like nostalic facebook page called the comments don't be ridiculous.
They were everything or something like that. There's two things
with Facebook comments threads people looking for a fight or
what is even more annoying is that people that trojan
horse of thread and write something topic adjacent but actually

(59:16):
not about that, and suddenly the whole discussion goes in
a completely different direction. Don't ever be that person. I'm
sure we'll get a milkcoat call before midnight tonight to
tell us. I don't know what they did. I'm sure
someone collects milk foil caps. Marcus pottersh you can put

(59:38):
on your fruit plants of the garden to help the
plants go into fruit. Marcus great binon Rangiora I knew
they have a good banon. I knew they have a
good banin Marcus. Instead of a milk is the kid.
It was called a milk bottled top, blue top, silver top,
green top. Yet we're onto milk tops. He didn't touched

(01:00:03):
Hittle twelve all about the tops, the milktops, green, silver top,
milk top. Marcus security camera infrared light to track moths,
which attracts spiders, so you need to spray with bug
spray monthly. Lenses also need cleaning regularly. Applying rain cross

(01:00:23):
X is helpful. Open the process of putting one in.
A fake rock. Love a fake rock, Marcus. How did
the blind know a mind what color it was? Oh,
they'd be told they'd put in a special place. But
you clept it all the foil tops, and I think

(01:00:44):
they melted those down for the money for the aluminium,
and that went to the blind. Marcus. Our local West
Haok and mister Whippe still play its original tune from
forty years ago. It's like he has driven out of
a museum. By the time I find some coins and
head down the long drive, I missed out be payWave now,
wouldn't it would mister whild be be payWave, you'd have

(01:01:04):
to be. We occasionally get them in Bluff, but not
outside our place because they're on the main highway. Marcus
was called a milk bottle top. We used to smooth
them out, fold them and halford wrap them around our
finger as a ring wow. Whatever next, I'm heading towards

(01:01:32):
midnight people. I also want to talk about the Waltons
Christmas special. I have been doing some reading about the
plot to the Walton's Homecoming Christmas story from nineteen seventy one.
You remember this well if you remember the Waltons. This

(01:01:52):
is the plot summary. It is nineteen thirty three, during
the Great Depression, I mean Christmas Eve. The Walton family
is in the midst of their Christmas preparations and hoping
to celebrate it together. The problem is that there are
many events which seem to prevent John from arriving home
to share this Christmas with his family. Olivia is wishing
and hoping that he will make it home. The children
are rushing to the daugh to see of the noises

(01:02:14):
they here are John and john boys heading out for
the snowy night to try to find him. Eventually, John
walks through the door on the first Walton Christmas Miracle
has occurred. One of the great Christmas movies, in fact,
probably the ultimate Christmas movie. I'm just putting that out there.
That's I don't even know what he said that we
need to talk about the Every time we talk about

(01:02:35):
the Waltons, most people end up wanting to talk about
the people around the dairy or the shop. Remember that.
Get in touch. My name is Marcus Hittle twelve looking
for I think it was the Goodsy's that ran the shop. Anyway,
here till midnight. My name is Marcus. Good evening. How
are you? What's happening? By the way, this will come
as not surprising news to some of you talking about

(01:02:59):
news in a divorce New Zealand Defense Force plane that
was supposed to lend in Vanahua two this evening. The
r n z AFC one thirty h on route to
Port Vila has had an engine fire warning indication. This evening.
The crew safely diverted to New Mayor. A second aircraft

(01:03:21):
will be seen at first light tomorrow morning to recover
the personnel and equipment and take them on to Vanua Two.
Other flights will continue as plan, including a C one
thirty j with m fat and support staff at first
light tomorrow's as well as a Boeing seven five seven
to transport freight and enable vacuations tomorrow afternoon. So the

(01:03:45):
range at EFC one thirty h has turned back and
has gone to New Mayor. Also your ballooning trips to Denise.
It's Marcus, good evening, Hi, Denise.

Speaker 7 (01:03:57):
Oh hi Marcus. Actually, regarding online shopping, I have done it.
I have done it a little bit. I mean I
do do it sometimes, but I really don't think it
will become more popular than actually going into a really
nice shop off the main street, because you know, I
sort of like to feel a fabric and you know

(01:04:19):
I have bought things online and you get them home.
Oh when they arrive you don't really want to by
the setting them back, but you know they're not the
right sort of fabric you want. And it's nice to
be able to go into a nice shop and to
try a few things on and get an eye oh yeah,
and then go away perhaps and look at another shop
and then come back. I like to sort of look

(01:04:39):
at cho or three as Denise.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
I don't think you're going to end up having I
think that luxury is going to be taken away from you.
Oh absolutely, I'm convinced of it.

Speaker 7 (01:04:49):
Why too costly or because I think.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Probably the shops aren't carrying the range they once did.
Therefore it's going to become too frustrating. You won't You're
go looking to do to do real shopping, bricks and
more to shopping, and there won't be anything there in
the ed you'll give up.

Speaker 7 (01:05:08):
See Oh gosh, well I may mind you. Our wardrobes
might not be parto for.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
You can't get the good fabrics anyway these days anyway.

Speaker 7 (01:05:19):
Oh no, well, I actually, yeah, I did buy a
really expensive address about twelve months ago online. It was
about four hundred dollars and when it arrived, you know,
the material is really slimusy and I've never actually worn
it yet because it really you know, it was it
from overseas. No, no, it was the New Zealand favorite

(01:05:43):
New Zealand thing, but it was sort of a Christmas
It was sort of Christmas yew year and the time
went by, and you know, I don't really like it,
you know, which seems silly because I was a lot
good in the magazine. But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Maybe you should set it online. Denise put it on
a marketplace.

Speaker 7 (01:06:04):
Oh, yes, well I got I. We do have one
of those sort of shots. It can sell second hands.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
So oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah on on consignment. Denise
knows to talk to you. Laureate's Marcus welcome, Yeah, hi Marcus.

Speaker 9 (01:06:23):
Yeah, hey, it's amazed that they sent that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
H Is it one of the old ones?

Speaker 9 (01:06:32):
Is it one of the old ones?

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:06:34):
I thought there was supposed to be. Yeah, was supposed
to be supposed to be doing its farewell flight round yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
So why did they see the old ones?

Speaker 9 (01:06:41):
Well, it's a good question.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
I can't work that out.

Speaker 9 (01:06:45):
Now that I thin, because I think they've got three
of the jay the new ones already, although I think
they've been using some of them for the Antarctic.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
Flights, all antactic.

Speaker 9 (01:06:55):
Yeah, yeah, but the just reflecting on Christmas, well, perhaps
Christmas dinner last year we're up in Hawaii, were family
up there and we had the pop Eye Chicken Christmas
toner delicious. But surprise, surprise, they're just starting to build
a drive through pop Eye Chicken and Parmeson North. They

(01:07:17):
won't be ready for Christmas, but that'll be ready for
next Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Wow, so I think it's it's an Awklan Tuck and top.
It's just gone up in Hastings way down. It's the invasion.
I've been Wellington by next Christmas.

Speaker 9 (01:07:30):
Yeah, well, there are some of our rallies up and
Walkland are jealous wing they're going to go away across
town to Pope Chicken. But this is just going to
be down around the corner from us.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Would students, would Palmerston North be better served than most
places for fast food?

Speaker 9 (01:07:46):
There must be in that particular block. They're just going
to be across the road from one of the Burger kings.
But yeah, there's there's heaps of you too, Kentucky Fries
and several McDonald's and Wendy's and all that sort of stuff.
But in that's just on the same stretch of street
Ringers Tickie Street where the Popeye one is going to
be on the corner of is within probably one hundred meters.

(01:08:10):
There's probably about five or six fast food efforts when
he's included. So yeah, it's going to be a real
busy corner. This seems to be what's concerning a lot
of the people.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
That'll be fine. Were you all right, going halfway around
the world for Christmas and just getting takeaways.

Speaker 9 (01:08:28):
We said others, O, well, I mean it was a
bit of a People were lining up for it in
Honolulu as well. It's still regarded as a bit of
a delicacy here, even though we're staying in a hotel.
We had family and they go around and they brought
stuff from different places they liked around town. But you

(01:08:51):
had to get down early in line.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Up for that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
What is quite interesting, Laurie, and you'll appreciate this. You
going to America and you look at a map of
each state and the most popular chicken franchise and it's
quite regional. There's some big friendship, but they were all
quite different. You know, each states have their different ones
that seem to be their local.

Speaker 9 (01:09:09):
Yeah, ye, specialty special because.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
There's Popeye and there's the Colonel and sorts of different ones.

Speaker 9 (01:09:19):
But it's going to be a busy drive because it's
going to be co sided with Starbucks apparently sort of
that that's driving through between two streets, but a real
nasty corner.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
You can see.

Speaker 9 (01:09:31):
It's going to be a bit of a start up probably, But.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
What's the population of Parmison is it growing or is
it withering on the vine?

Speaker 9 (01:09:38):
No, No, it's growing exact numbers. There's a lot of
you know, a lot of subdivision carrying on. Yeah, and
almost both the same with fielding as well. It's sort
of there has been quite a significant growth.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
What's driving it.

Speaker 9 (01:09:55):
Well and in some respects well then there's quite a
few people tied up with the defense force that also business,
you know, farming, education, Yeah, yeah, uh, I mean there's
still a lot of commercial buildings around town. The aquarium
deep it suddenly in the square they got the old

(01:10:16):
post office. So they just just announced also this high
flyers there's going to be an international hotel starting to
build in the square on that site. They're going to
use the facade of the old post office a bit
of five or six story get them what chain it is.
But it's just been announced.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Is there any appetite to get rid of the departure text?

Speaker 9 (01:10:40):
It's been gone for a long time.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
Oh, there we go, please about ten years or so.

Speaker 9 (01:10:44):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
That's one of the best us I've heard, Laurie. Nice
to talk, Thank you, Bill, Marcus, welcome you a build,
good thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
Good on here I talk about milk model tops. I've
got some of those cardboard ones. You know they used
to put on the top of that one.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
It was before my time. The cardboard. I can't imagine
it worked that.

Speaker 19 (01:11:06):
Well, did it.

Speaker 9 (01:11:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
Yeah, These are just sort of slot and they're quite thick,
because I mean once you've once you opened your bottle,
you generally drank it. The ones I've got have got
wye Naughty Dairy one five why Naughty Road, christ Church
and pasteurized cream on them. Oh yeah, And I've had

(01:11:33):
them for probably fifteen years and I've been selling them
on trade me now and then. I don't sort of
flood the market too much for usually for a buck each.
And about ten years ago to Papa bought with a
successful bidders on one of my os. So I think
they paid nine dollars for five or something, which was

(01:11:55):
a bit expensive. So I sent them. I've probably sent
them fifty five a novel life just to keep mappy.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
So yeah, oh yeah, yeah, where did you get them from?

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
Bill? I had a mate that wanted me to look
at an old building and that it was obviously the
old wine Ninty Dairy and Wine Road in christ this
year and look at the recovering the remove in it,
but it was it was full of boor so. Anyway,
I just happened to be, you know, at a bench,

(01:12:30):
and I just noticed this thing sticking out and I
sort of prized it up with a screwdriver. And anyway,
about five thousand of these.

Speaker 3 (01:12:42):
And the.

Speaker 4 (01:12:45):
Yeah yeah, so and while I was there, I ripped
the floor up and found about thirty of the old bottles.
Any milk cream bottles underneath the floor.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Any milk tokens, No tokens.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
No, I'm not sure they had tokens back then.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
I got a good point. They would have the metal tokens,
wouldn't they.

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
They did have year the medal tokens, and I'm not
sure they're hard plastic ones, but I remember, I remember
the meddle tokens. They were. They were sort of a
get up to stop people from pinching milk bottle money,
because you used to leave your money out in the
old days, you know, in your in your and your
sixpences and inside a bottle.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
Be still some of them prepared to pay good money
for tokens in the day of fence, those.

Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
Wouldn't there would be yeah, yeah, the there are milk
and you see it frustrated because if you if you
have left the weaver of the water in the bottom
of your bottle and they put your money in the
crosty morning, yeah, you get the money out, yes, yeah, yeah,
or e it was weird.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
It would sometimes be hard to get out. What do
you have to give it a big bang and throw
it around.

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
Yeah. I actually sent you a photo in a text
of of these, so I'm don't know what it came
through and the text. I have technology.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
I'll go to the I'll tell you what I'll do,
but I haven't. I can't get the text, but I'll
look it on the tapapas page because they have all
their things there on that one. So thank you for that, Bill.
I appreciate that getting touch. People are nice to chat
to you. Bill. Someone said, Popeye is Popeye's is due
and lower lower hut within the next month of coursh
they're taking over. They must see the kernel has been weak, Marcus.

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The schoolhall social was decorated every year with streamers from
the milk factory. The milk bottle foils were punched out
of foil strips. The leftover folds were sparkly streamers three
to four inches wide with holes in them where the
bottletops had been punched from. They are really long and
made great Christmas decorations. We attached them from the center
of the hall out to the walls and great big
loops like garlands and blues, and the social score rocked.

(01:14:45):
The milk factor was just up the road. It's closed now.
Of course, there were red cream ones, blue ones, silver ones,
and the Christmas design ones too. That was a bit
of a fifty year ago wonderful. And the bills seeking
to remove Good Friday East to Sunday as restrictive trading
days has been voted down for goodness sake, And it

(01:15:09):
seems in the UK Easter eggs have appeared already on
the shelves, leaving people to joke Jesus hasn't even been
born yet. Yeah, so I don't know if anyone's concerned

(01:15:30):
about that. Mark is just who you're talking about. Parmeston North.
Can anyone tell me why they have a chemist warehouse
and Parmest North, Thanks Chrissy. I don't know the trigger
for a chemist warehouse. We haven't got one an invert
cargo either, And I know that people like them because

(01:15:55):
I believe they are seen as cheaper. There'll be some
old school people that want the local chemist to remain,
but I'm sure there'll be plenty of others who just
think the cheaper, the better. Seems to be the way
it's going now with people, isn't it when it comes

(01:16:16):
to their pharmaceuticals. So yeah, I don't know how many.
I can't find a map of where they all are.
I thought I could, but heaven just now anyhow, certainly
a chain that's taken overy quickly and none very very well.
I'm looking at them now where they are, well, there's

(01:16:38):
a lot. I don't know why they're not in Palmerston North, Yes,
because they are, and they don't know every where they are. Actually,
I'm trying to think where they are. Someone might know
some information, but getting touched with that you want to
wear that also, So now I don't know why the
Chivist warehouse is not in Palms North. Aromae's got any

(01:16:58):
some information on that that would be of interest, Marcus.
The lint chocolate bunnies have been sold at the supermarkets
here in Wellington, so it does happening here there are
is it an Easter bunny? It's not a Christmas thing
is it lint always sounds like something you get out
of the dryer. Is lint? It's not a good name
for a chocolate brand. But Marcus, regarding the hockey funding,

(01:17:21):
this is a text because hockey's had their money pulled
because they didn't do one at the Olympics. They haven't
done well for a long time, have they sort of
probably one of the country's most familiar headlines as men's
hockey team losers. Regarding the hockey funding is a former
commercial manager at a high performance sporting realization in the UK.

(01:17:42):
Whoever runs this will need to get busy leveraging every
available sponsorship opportunity to fill the gap advantage the main
sponsor and Ford Motors won't be able to fill the
gap alone many things, Neil. And that's why I always
am amazed about that, because how could you get sponsors
for hockey when it gets all my Snow TV coverage

(01:18:04):
and it gets all my Snow audience turning up to
see it. It's just hopeless as far as trying to
get the revenue streams, because I'm sure we've regod it.
We've got great players, but sponsorship is not going to work,
is it. No One knows their name, no one knows
what they do. Then how do you start growing a

(01:18:27):
sport like that? Maybe a team of great players will
come along and, despite the odds, will go and win
gold medals like we did it the Olympics in seventy six.
Was it seveny to or seventy six? I'm pretty sure
it's seventy six. The goalkeeper played with a broken kneecap.
I think that's right, Marcus. Do you know about the

(01:18:48):
flesh eating disease the holiday spots? Yes, it's from possums, Marcus.
The new Starbucks and Parmeston North have a drive through.
Popeyes were meant to be targeting suburbs without an existing
without an existing KFC one day, so we're gonna get
sick of chicken, but no one seems got stick of pizzas.

(01:19:09):
They're all opening up, aren't they ridiculously cheap? All the
lines are free people looking forward to hearing from you.
By the way too, when it comes to sport, they're
also just part of the et. Sport hasn't got any funding,
must be probably one thing was sport he til twelve. Roger.

(01:19:30):
It's Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 20 (01:19:33):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Thank you?

Speaker 20 (01:19:34):
Roger, Merry Christmas to you. And last night somebody missions
that with coke bud or yes, now it's I think
what somebody also asked about cleaning their car with it
way back. I remember that. And what they've got to

(01:19:56):
do is clean the car then and let it dry
and dilute the coat or don't put it on leather
to take the paint off, and maybe about forty fourteen
drops to about pipe hundred the email of water and
spread on all over the car, and that will keep
let it dry, and that will keep animals away.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
So the bird and the birds won't land on it.
If it's got the cloth but oil on it diluted.

Speaker 20 (01:20:28):
They smell it and they keep away. It keeps animals
away from the garden. And when you spray aphis or
fins in the garden with it, it's about fourteen drops
to about pipe hundred e mail spread all over the
plant and the aphis keeps away. Cats and dogs keep away.
They smell it. They just don't make the smell. You

(01:20:49):
can spray it in the doorway and the animals will
keep away. But it's cloved but oil, and you get it.
Can I say where they Yeah, they can spray house.

Speaker 4 (01:21:01):
Has got it now.

Speaker 20 (01:21:02):
I've bought fear them into meaning the other day or
that week, and the agents have got sixteen dollars. Were
we to twenty five in their bottle? They were the
first time I bought it, there were twenty five dollars.
I've been unspecial and they use that. It do's all

(01:21:23):
sorts of things. You've got plants growing in a garden
like peace spray spray a little dry and the birds
won't pick it them.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
And how long will that last before it wees off.

Speaker 20 (01:21:40):
On ice raed I don't know because once it tries
the I got peace and by the time they go
up the birds will attack them. Okay, if it's if
the maines the spray, the place where is dry, say
in the doorway in a nice weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:22:02):
Okay, appreciate that, Roger. Think where'd you say you got
it from?

Speaker 8 (01:22:05):
Again?

Speaker 20 (01:22:05):
Dunedin Chimber Squarehouse got a most of those places got it,
but they had it on special. It's sixteen dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
Okay, close, but oil, Thank you, Roger. Jordan Marcus, welcome
for Jordana.

Speaker 15 (01:22:23):
I'd be keen to weigh in on the esports conversation
that you guys are having me too. I find it
particularly interesting that at New Zealand especially find it that
they don't want to weigh in on the on the
funding for esports. I think it's a massive oversight, not

(01:22:45):
not realizing what a huge industry that they're not tapping into.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
I mean, but you don't need to travel for it,
and you don't need equipment, so what what would the
funding be for?

Speaker 11 (01:22:56):
That's right?

Speaker 15 (01:22:57):
Well, I mean, look, even if we look at let's
look at one there's even one game alone which is
one of the biggest, biggest esports games in the industry
right now, even in twenty twenty four alone, we're talking
about twenty five million dollars in prize money for just
a single game alone. That would be Counterstrike is the

(01:23:17):
name of the game that yep. And if you know,
if there are key we well we'll call them athletes
in quotation marks that are competing on the world stage.
And if that sort of prize money isn't enticing for
just just one of the many games that are out
there for the taking, then don't don't. I don't really

(01:23:40):
understand why. I agree that it's an oversight.

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
What's preventing people from playing counter Strike, what would the
money go for to make them better at it?

Speaker 15 (01:23:50):
I think a lot of what's stopping it is that
when you get to the biggest stage in terms of
a lot of these games have a big competitive scene,
is that they're built on top of organizations, and all
organizations will build their team around players. And if we
don't put the funding into promoting players from New Zealand,

(01:24:13):
similarly to every other sport that we play the same as,
you know, like sports that we love, like rugby or
football even or cricket, you know we're not We're not
going to get the results that were after And I
mean but I think people.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
I think people see those sports has been good good
to fund because when they get profile that people will
play them and they create a healthy lifestyle the exercise.
I presume that's the inference. Whereas I ges esport, people
aren't seeing that. But but as counter struct is the
sport organized are there is there an administrative body that

(01:24:51):
will find the best players and promote them and things
like that? Is it that stage yet?

Speaker 15 (01:24:56):
Oh, there's there's a myriad of tournaments that occur throughout
the entire year that can only be available to the
to the best of the best, okay, and those and those,
you know, the cream of the crop. Are those big
organizations that that will go and search the best talent
throughout the globe for those for those talents, I guess,

(01:25:20):
And and it's evident in many different games that that
New Zealand has got a lot of those players. And
if there isn't the kind of backing from you know,
you know, if we don't have the financial backing, then
they won't be promoted on that world stage. And I
think there's it, just it doesn't seem apparent to most

(01:25:41):
people that there is such a big industry out there
for for esports. And I think it will become apparent eventually.

Speaker 14 (01:25:51):
But is it a moment?

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Is it sport?

Speaker 15 (01:25:56):
I mean that's the big question, right, I mean that
that well, you'll be a.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
Place to answer it than anyone because you're obviously involved.

Speaker 15 (01:26:05):
Yeah, I mean for sure, And I mean I'm involved
in both physical sport and you know, some would call
esport at the end of the day. Would you call
ballet a sport?

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
No, I wouldn't. But yeah, but that's that's culture, and
I guess that gets fun from a different stream. Maybe
it's more culture. Jordan, nice to talk, Thank you. Seven
from eleven. Hello Jane Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 18 (01:26:32):
I just didn't quite get the oil. You said that
would keep the car, keep the birds and things off
your car. But the fella said it was clove bud oil.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
It's different from clove oil. It's clove bud oil.

Speaker 18 (01:26:45):
Where are you, Jane, I've been buy.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
Have you got a chemist warehouse?

Speaker 18 (01:26:51):
Yes, we've just got a beautiful new one.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
So you got it all, haven't you.

Speaker 18 (01:26:54):
Wow, we've got everything in good spot.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
Great spot. Clove bud oil. That's what you're going here.
It's on special for sixteen dollars fourteen drops, he said,
not too much.

Speaker 18 (01:27:06):
Was what specific about?

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
I zoned out?

Speaker 18 (01:27:09):
Five hundred mills of water or something? Did he say?

Speaker 2 (01:27:12):
What do you say, Dan, Dan's listening to it. What's
the recipe? Then?

Speaker 4 (01:27:18):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
Oh you got good. You've got good recall Jane.

Speaker 18 (01:27:22):
Oh, yes, and would it be I was wondering would
it be any good for mosquitoes? I thought it might be,
you know, if you sprayed outside on your table. Yeah,
do you reckon it would be any good mosquitoes are
in your room?

Speaker 7 (01:27:41):
Oh?

Speaker 18 (01:27:41):
No, No, I mean when we say when we're outside
for having a barbecue when you've You've got to know you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Because you've be heaven outside barbecue wanting.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
To eat.

Speaker 7 (01:27:52):
When it's not Wendy, I.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
Take the bait. Yes, I don't know if that would
be good for I don't imagine it would be that
good for that. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:28:01):
Oh well, you never know.

Speaker 18 (01:28:02):
Someone might tell this something.

Speaker 2 (01:28:03):
Maybe yeah, you woightn't been something. Maybe if you put
a drop, because I remember those terrible coils you used
to boom. Yeah, that's right, the rage for a while.

Speaker 7 (01:28:14):
Interest.

Speaker 18 (01:28:14):
You never know who will come on.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Yeah, no, Jane, good luck, and I appreciate your moxy
coming through remembering the recipe. I don't know why I
didn't say twenty eight drops for a liter or one
point four drops for one hundred. Good on them. He's
his own man, Roger. He's like the most on twit
guy I've ever heard about. Cloth. But oil it's quite

(01:28:39):
different from clove oil. It's more pungent. And I told
you last night that you could drive in your generals.
No one cares. You're not going to lose insurance. That's garbage.
So yeah, knock yourself out. I mean, don't but you
can drive in Gendles. Just so you know, I think

(01:29:00):
I'm looking forward to the last hour. How I go
ahead and watch the last episode of Walton's Mountain that Christmas.
I mean, just picture them coming in through the snow. John.
One of the great episodes nineteen seventy one and also

(01:29:22):
one of the very good theme tunes was Walton's Mountain
got a bit Morkish towards the In fact, it was
mawkish the whole way, but still simpler times. Maybe someone
wants to come out of E games. Actually probably it
would be quite a good topic that, But I just
can't work out why they want funding, because you imagine

(01:29:45):
why the hockey team needs funding to get around the
world to go to tournaments. But you wouldn't even read
to travel wood. You would most E games be done virtually.
You might have some information about that and ballooning and
all the other topics also there tonight. So everything's on
the board tonight. What have you got? My name is Marcus.
Welcome middle twelve o'clock. If there's something else you want
to talk about. Someone wanted pot ash, How to get potash?
Where to get potash? Feel we haven't served that guy

(01:30:07):
well with that question, that's the pottersh question.

Speaker 10 (01:30:15):
Umm.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
Now someone says, I enjoy the text. I like this
way this text is worded, and I'll read it verbatim. Mah, Marcus,
this will drive you mad. But could you repeat the
clove but oil again? Merry Christmas, Mary? I think according

(01:30:41):
to Roger, you get some clove bud oil from chemist Warehouse.
A bit of check it is there at chemist warehouse
because the guy might have got the wrong chemistry seemed
pretty particular his facts. Chemists Warehouse clove bud oil. Well

(01:31:04):
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Speaker 11 (01:32:30):
Love?

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
This been in my diffusor for weeks straight? Now What
the person writes comments on the chemist Warehouse website for
the same called talkback This oil Mum's little help with us.
Oil smells divine. I find it a great help for
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product for general cleaning as well. And these everything feeling fresh.

(01:32:53):
I wouldn't be without this oil. That's Virginia. Anonymous one
one one one s his good product, good product, easy ordering.
So we are talking about cloths thro in the kitchen,
sink it you, But actually what we really wanted to
talk about is clove. But oil fourteen drops to half

(01:33:14):
a liter. Then what did you say you do? Put
in a spritzer bottle? You sprout around your car. Don't
put it straight on your car. It'll strip the paint
if you said that one. He said that a thousand times.
People have no nonsense with their reviews. Mold killer exclamation marks,

(01:33:36):
strong and feisty. Mold be gone. Recent floods in Queensland
brought mold. Mold be gone. It's like a haiku. There's
a hiko, mold be gone. Recent floods in Queensland brought mold.
Mold be gone. One two, three, three syllable short. I

(01:34:08):
use clove bud oil, three drops of of steam and
halent morning and night. I'm sixty six. Suffer from seasonal
hay fever airborne wheat husk. I'll be careful about that. Also,
put a cotton bud with these oils in my COVID mask.
Will have to wear it. Hello, loler, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 4 (01:34:32):
Hi.

Speaker 3 (01:34:33):
You're talking about clove oil.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
Clove bud oil.

Speaker 14 (01:34:36):
Yes, Oh, what's the difference.

Speaker 2 (01:34:39):
Oh that's a big question. I don't know. But to Roger,
he said, don't buy clove oil. You gotta buy clove
bud oil.

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
Oh okay, yeah, well I was just going to say
about clove oil. It's the dentist used to use it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
For anesthetic, yeah, and the tooth Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
And so I had somebody, a friend come to my
house one morning at two point thirty in the morning
with toothache and put it on a cotton all bud
and swab her gun with it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:22):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
They used to call it. They used to call it
usien ol. I think usual ol.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
Okay, So this rose bud oil, it must be in
a bigger quantity, is it?

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
Not rose bud oil? Clove?

Speaker 12 (01:35:40):
But sorry, close clothes bad oil.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
Yes, they must get it in a bigger quantity because
the clover oil is highly concentrated.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
Okay, I don't even know what a clove, but is.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
Well, you know when you get when you get the
whole clothes. Yes, have you seen what the whole cloth
looks like.

Speaker 2 (01:36:06):
I've seen them in a packet where you poke them
into an orange and make those things.

Speaker 3 (01:36:10):
It's right. The bitter on the end is the bud,
is it? And it depends whether it's fresh or whether
it's highly dried or old. But when it's fresh, it's soft,
and probably that's when they make the oil from it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
Oh, that is the bud. Well, actually, the whole thing
looks like a bud. It says on the diagram the
entire thing is the clove bud. But I don't know
what else they'll be making the oil from.

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
Yeah, yeah, but they make it when when the bud
is soft, not when it's been dried and it's hard.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
But maybe the clove oil is made from the whole
plant and the and the clove bud. Is that but
that you poke it to the orange.

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
Yeah, but they would they would only use their bud
and the and the clot and the stalk for making
clove oil, not cloth bad oil. But I don't know
the difference in the strengths between clove oil and cloth
bood oil. But you've always been able to get clove oil.

(01:37:19):
I wasn't aware.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
I think probably the other one is from the leaves
of the clove tree.

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Then why would they call it clothes blood oil.

Speaker 2 (01:37:31):
This is a different one. Yeah, cloth butter specified, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
Yeah, so the leaves would still have the clothes light.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
Very much light. Yeah, that's right, Well like a eucalyptus tree.

Speaker 3 (01:37:53):
Yeah. So anyway, see what turns out, God that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
The guy came at two thirty and it was for
his teeth, a.

Speaker 3 (01:38:04):
Well, they were terrible pain, and so I just told
her the next day to go to the dentist. But
at two thirty in the morning, there is no dentist around, No,
and she had to get her daughter to drive her

(01:38:24):
over because she couldn't drive. She's in too much pain.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
She need something harder.

Speaker 3 (01:38:32):
Well, there was no tooth there. It was just like
a cavity, and risk of infection would be high, so
she needed to go to a dentist.

Speaker 14 (01:38:45):
But anyway, that's very interesting, LOLLI.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
I appreciate that. Think it's for kind you called through
with all that. I don't know which is the clothes, Bud.
I'm very confused about it. Now there's flowers and leaves, Marcus.
When I'm at Cora across the Tapu Stream, my neighbors
who are a model of the waters, with thirteen children,

(01:39:07):
various ages, milking cows, laughing, arguing, swimming, hunting, riding horses,
driving farm trucks, diggers, motocross all the various times of days.
It's pure joy to the mind, with no complaints from me.
Someone says, sounds like a topic for feral people. What
does our cats? Yeah, ye ye ye, I think Gareth Morgan.

(01:39:34):
It became so extreme to be that the topics never
recovered from that, has it. It's a trouble with coming
out wanting to ban something that kind of The cat
people just kind of doubled down. We can't have any
sensible discussion about cats. But what they want to do

(01:39:55):
is there's a bill being brought to Parliament and I'll
tell you about this. So I read that before I
came on here tonight, and I shall bring this and
read it to you. The Green Party MP Celia Wade
Brown has launched a Propose Members Bill causing calling for

(01:40:19):
the microchipping of all domestic cats and a national cat register.
I was like guns, the bill does not make desecting
men to a tree. But they started to step in
the right the right direction compulsory microchipping. I guess most

(01:40:45):
people are opposed to the cost about making sure every
cat has loved and looked after while protecting the native wildlife. Jay,
it's Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:40:58):
Him.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
Hey you going yeah good? Jay, good? Jay good Jay.

Speaker 19 (01:41:04):
I'm a crazy cat lover and I thought to call
you about my two cats. I've got to rescue pure
breads breeder.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
Didn't you're going to rescue pure bread.

Speaker 19 (01:41:18):
Yeah, so I usually get these Buca specials myself because
they're already you know, need a home. But I went
along with a friend to see what it was all about.
These Scottish folds, which actually needs to be banned because
of genetic issues. Bears sold down because they don't have

(01:41:40):
enough like stuff that makes their joints good.

Speaker 8 (01:41:44):
Enough.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
College what are they called?

Speaker 19 (01:41:47):
The Scottish folds? So although they look kind of cute
and a bit weird, it unfortunately does hurt their health.

Speaker 2 (01:41:56):
So hopefully so have been banned.

Speaker 19 (01:42:02):
Not yet they have been banned, I believe overseas, but
hopefully one day music that they will.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
So you've got some of them?

Speaker 19 (01:42:10):
Yeah, they ended up I went. So I went there
with my friends and realized they're a backyard breeder. I
did actually report them. They got shut shut down, but
I ended up taking two myself, just because I felt
sorry for them. There are thousand dollars a pop. So
I've got my two thousand dollars indoor cats, but I actually.

Speaker 4 (01:42:30):
Have the cat.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
Were they free to you?

Speaker 3 (01:42:35):
No?

Speaker 19 (01:42:35):
I paid for them and photos and got some vet
reports and reported them.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
Is it legal? Is illegal to be a backyard breeder.

Speaker 19 (01:42:46):
Oh, it's more that I'm sure people have like great
setups and stuff and love their animals and do it
the right way. But these cats were very sick and
not good conditions. But I've actually chosen to have my
cats mostly indoors. They only go outside with me on harnesses.
I'm one of those cat like well, go you jay,

(01:43:10):
because although I am a cat lover, I do understand
like dogs and stuff. You know, you walk them and
you should have them on the lead most of the time,
or unless you've got them under control and pack up
their Hopefully cats two piss people off. They like pee
in their garden, pope in their garden, a fight with

(01:43:32):
their cat or something, get some beat bills. So yeah,
they hang out in their little jungle gym off the
house each day, and then I hang out with him
the afternoon evening and we go on the harness. We
can go up the hills, we can.

Speaker 6 (01:43:44):
Go to the beach.

Speaker 8 (01:43:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
Did they take the harness quite happily. Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:43:50):
I put a dog harness on it because it's more
supportive on their chest rather than going around their neck.

Speaker 2 (01:43:55):
Look at you.

Speaker 19 (01:43:56):
They get very excited when they come up to me.
Once they see the harness, they're happy to pop on on.
I guess micro tripping is kind of just good the
facts you can maybe know whose animal isn't return it
to them. I don't know if you know, our country's
only got so much money, how can we really, you know,

(01:44:19):
put resources towards cracking dance on people? And that I
used to work for doc as well as a trapper.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
So yeah, hey, just I ask this question. Just it's
not really where I want to go to. Other people
be wondering. You've decided to pick up the cat excrement?
Is that difficult?

Speaker 7 (01:44:41):
Oh?

Speaker 19 (01:44:41):
I've got uh, kitty litter and it's tumping and I
can just poposcope and it's a I don't want to
have a house that smells like cat.

Speaker 2 (01:44:51):
People, But when you're where the cats are walking, you
pick up the cat excrement? Is that what you said?

Speaker 10 (01:44:55):
Or that.

Speaker 19 (01:44:57):
They don't they wait they hold wait again.

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
Okay, I see what you're saying.

Speaker 19 (01:45:02):
I don't really ok I definitely would if they did.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
Well, look at you. Okay, have you got one of
those cat backpacks with the adorable little window in them?

Speaker 7 (01:45:12):
Oh?

Speaker 19 (01:45:12):
They are adorable. I just shot them in the regular
backpack and they decide it out there when they don't
want to walk anymore of that year.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
I'm just looking at pictures now of Scottish fold cats.
Are yours a tabby?

Speaker 19 (01:45:28):
There're ginger tabby?

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
Little ease it fold down? They're delightful, aren't they? M hmm?

Speaker 19 (01:45:35):
But yeah, I think, you know, just the sex thing
I'd be more for than putting money towards than just
the marcro chip. How long is reducing numbers?

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
How long of I'm sorry, how long of Scottish? Is
it a recent like genetic throwback? The old Scottish Scottish
fold cat?

Speaker 19 (01:45:57):
I think there was just maybe a mutant cat back
way back and they're like, oh that's cute, and then
ire in Scotland and they just ran with that cat
and I had babies from that one.

Speaker 4 (01:46:09):
One.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
Who I wonder when they first came to New Zealand.

Speaker 19 (01:46:13):
Oh, I'm not quite sure, but yeah, we have my
two little fruit loops with me.

Speaker 2 (01:46:19):
The original Scottish fold was a white barn cat called Susie,
who was found on a farm near Tayside, Scotland, in
nineteen sixty one, with an unusual fold in their middle,
making their maker is fold in the middle made look
like an owl. They should call them an ol cat.

Speaker 19 (01:46:35):
A Yeah, totally.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
Will they live for a long time when you get
fourteen years out of them?

Speaker 19 (01:46:42):
Probably just the fact that you know, I have them,
had a good food and when they live with the
high life. But yeah, in regards to the market tripping,
yes that'd be great. But yeah, I think just reducing
numbers in the stray cats more important.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
Jay, when there are you've got adorable cats on leads
when you're at the beach, what do people normally say
to you? What adorable cats? Is that what they say?

Speaker 19 (01:47:09):
Yeah, they get a little bit surprised, but then they
usually get a pet all they want to have a
hold of them and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
But yeah, they're quite Are people surprised or are they
familiar with Scottish fold cats? Yeah?

Speaker 19 (01:47:22):
Not many people have come across now I've.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Never seen I've never seen one in the wild.

Speaker 19 (01:47:28):
Yeah, you haven't met any other Scottish folds. Wasn't mine personally?

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
Wow? Okay, brilliant. Okay, I think Taylor Swift's got Scottish
fold issue.

Speaker 19 (01:47:40):
Yeah, it is nice to know these.

Speaker 2 (01:47:44):
Anyone thinks you've just got them because you're a swifty
rather than you're a mad cat lady.

Speaker 19 (01:47:48):
A yeah, yeah, I'm more Metallica myself.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
Okay, Jay, thank you very much for that. Wow. Two
things I know about Taylor Swift her parents ran a
Christmas tree farm and she's got Scottish Bold cats. I'm
actually gone slightly offer for that because she shouldn't have
a cat that to throw back, Jay, well, she should
have because she closed it down.

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
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