Mutton ham redux (6 December 2024)

More questions about mutton ham, and whether or not Auckland FC deserve a new waterfront stadium.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be greetings, could even be one of miss Marcus
hit til midnight tonight. How are you? I hope you
are good at a ETA eight here to right till
the end of today, here till the night? Goodness me?
How are you going? People? How yeah? Are you having
watched luck finding your mutton ham? If you are struggling
to get in touch, I can put you in touch

(00:32):
with someone that can get you a mutton ham. I
kind of reckon, and I haven't talked to the bosses
about this. Boss bosses, I reckon we could do a
good partnership with an online butchery, because I'm sure we could.
Actually they could come up with special meat deals and

(00:53):
we could actually say, well have you tried the old
crayfish sausages or something like that. It's kind of how
the man butchers started was great presence on radio during
sports talk. I think might have been radio I even anyway,
But let me know if you're struggling getting your mutton ham,
and I'll see what I can do to help you
out with that one. It might just be an internet search,

(01:14):
but you know, I'm big on this the old mutton
Hams anyway, and get in touch if you want to.
My name as Marcus Httle twelve. I'm sure there's a
lot of breaking us tonight with the fire at Castle
Hill Village or coming towards there also road instance happening.
Will keep you updated for that throughout the course of
the evening tonight. Anything else that happens while stranding is

(01:36):
anything like that, will be right across it. I'll bring
that to your attention and you can bring stuff to
my attention as well. A lot of talk on the
radio day about people checking and people checking through onions
as that's theft. That's not a hack, that's theft. That's

(01:56):
not a clever trick. I think probably the only clever
trick you get to a self checkout is if you
could probably disguise a more expensive key with fruit as
the bog standard green key with fruit. However, you know
what you're doing, it's theft by deception. I don't like supermarkets,

(02:17):
but I'm not gonna go and start robbing them. I'm
not gonna go and start encouraging people to rob them.
I like the staff at the supermarkets. They are people
I see regularly, and I enjoy them. I'm even enjoying
get this. I'm even enjoying my card, my Orange card
at countdown, my everyday rewards cat, I save ten dollars
there go figure. I mean I bought things that were

(02:41):
yeah anyway, whereas our brown onions. Yes, no. I I
would be very disapproving of people that were checking the
wrong thing through because you can't make out that it's
a heck. It's not a heck that's theft. It's not

(03:03):
even a fine line. I don't even know what a
hack at the supermarket is. But there we go. You
might want to mention that I don't know what else
to say about that, but I'm just putting that out
there also myself. But it is the Friday free for all.
As anything goes here till midnight tonight. There's breaking news
that it will happen here too. So a lot to
talk about, a lot almost to talk about. So the

(03:27):
country is tinder dry and the fire risks expected to
spike in many areas in the coming weeks amongst high temperatures,
low humidity, and drying winds. The fires and canterburno tag
over the past type of days paint a grim picture
of what we have. We'll see in the dryer parts

(03:48):
of the country if people don't take care with fires
or spark making activity. So it's all on tind to dry.
Just say you know, anyway, do get in touched. You
on to be a part of the show. My name
is Marcus hittled twelve. But yes, there's nothing there's nothing

(04:10):
legal about checking through onions and making out that that's
an innocent thing to do. I wouldn't even talk about that,
but oh eight hundred and eighty tady nine nine two
decks and have you had yes? Brown onion? Hack to
cut sack grocery. It's not a hack, it's theft. I
don't want to be someone to lecture people's morality, but

(04:31):
they write hack in the headlines so people click on
that it's not a hack. For godness sake. Anyway, get
in touch. My name's Marcus hittle twelve. Anything goes. It's
the Friday free for all. Looking forward to what you
have to say, but particularly if you any advice on
getting your mutton ham. That's been the back theme right
throughout the course of the week. I don't even know

(04:52):
if there are any good I just like saying Mutton Ham.
I did enjoy that session we had last night about
what to buy a twenty three year old girl for
Christmas that doesn't drink. I was quite heartened by some
of the responses we got last night. So if you've
got a difficult person that you want to buy for,
we can throw that to the group. Like it might

(05:13):
be your sons. I don't know who it would be.
You've got something to say about that? Oh great idea,
Marcus One's d bacon has a nice ring to it. Marcus,
are you following the New York City ceo assassination? Been

(05:34):
a while since someone got whacked. A lot of songs
on TikTok about that, and then people are upset because
no one seems to be taking it seriously. Excuse my
naive tay Marcus from Paula. What are Muttenhams?

Speaker 3 (05:48):
So?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
I don't know the full history of Muttenhams. There should
be a book written about them. Once upon a time
when New Zealand had about forty lambs for every person,
unlike now, the four per person lamb and Mutton was
re cheap and replentiful, and Mutton was dressed up in

(06:16):
all sorts of ways to make it more appealing to people.
And in fact they often call it and cock it
and call it colonialor goose. But one thing they did
with mutton for people that were short of money is
they would produce a Christmas Ham, but they would make

(06:39):
it out of mutton, and it was called a muttonham.
So often, if you could expect, if you could imagine
an episode of Walton's Mountain Christmas Special but set in
New Zealand, the father returning from war would be trekking

(07:01):
through snow. There would be summer, and it'd arrive at
the Christmas table with a Muttonham and prayers would be said,
and the families would say, well, we haven't got much,
but at least we've got each other, at least we've
got peace in the world. At least we've got this ham,
this Mutton ham. So it wasn't quite as good as
real ham, but it was a ham nevertheless, and those

(07:24):
bellies will fall on that Christmas night. So that's the
spirit of the Mutton Ham. It's kind of a it's
a connection. It's nostalgia to days gone by when New
Zealand was a different kind of a country with a
lot more sheep ham was expensive and mutton ham was
plentiful around Christmas. I think I've got that right. I

(07:47):
don't even know if I've actually had a mutton Ham
in the last fifty years. I think we had one
as children, but not because it were for nostalgia. I
just think we were ham. We were muttonham curious. But
it measure On Wednesday. There's been a lot of emails
from people wanted to get in touch with people that
do mutton Hams. There's still a lot of butcher shops,
particularly in the South Island, that do it what it
tastes like. I've got no idea. I thought of going

(08:11):
out and buying one this week, but probably you wouldn't
eat it in time. And we are going away, I
think for Christmas, and we're traveling light and one of
the rules of traveling light is not to take a Muttonham.
So you have would talk all night about Muttonhams. But
to the kick text of the call, that's what it is.

(08:34):
It's a ham made from mutton. I thought they'd be
pretty self explanatory, but someone might know the history of one.
Someone might be kind of a New Zealand food historian.
They were a well known dish of the Highlands and

(08:55):
Borders of the eighteenth century, made from the old sheep
as there were a few pigs in Scotland and muttonhams
were a major export from Glasgow. So obviously, with the
south of the South Island been colonized by South but
by Scott's people from Scotland, that's probably why the mutton
ham has been such a big deal down here. Ahem, Oh,

(09:28):
good evening, Graham, it's Marcus, welcome, how are you good?
Thanking Graham?

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Just touching on the mutton hands. I'm not a butcher,
but I understand what they are is a leg of
lamb that has been processed, cooked, processed in the form
of the same as corned to silverside a brine which
gives them a salty, reddish texture and taste, very very nice.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
But I think they've also been smoked as well.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yes they can be, yeah, but no I like it personally.
You get more off a leg of lambs fish if
I mushn't sorry, it is fishy. If it's a larger one.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
You prefer a mutton ham. You'd prefer a mutton ham
to a pork ham, wouldn't you.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Yes, you're always.

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Welcome with a pork one, but the muttain one is
it can be more tender, and if a slice the
right way, fish on fresh, very very fresh bread, it's
a perfect sandwich.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
That's right, you're onto it. And also too, if you're
embracing people of other creeds, the mutton ham is often
less divisive than the pork ham.

Speaker 6 (10:44):
Correct.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yes, especially Middle Eastern people.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yes, yes, all sorts of people. So if you're there
at the car. If you've got a community church Christmas,
well you know, I won't say church Christmas because you're
probably people with the same faith. If you've got a
community gathering at your local hall, from the school or
something at Christmas gathering, you want to take a cut
of meat, that's less polarizing, muttinham would be the answer.

(11:10):
Thoughts on great Day tomorrow, Marks, is it still going?
I'm surprised to hear that, Marcus. We always had muttonhams
in our house. We love them, taste just like ham
cured peck and save. If you buy loose spuds and
go through the self serve, it won't let you continue
until someone comes and checks the bag. Gosh, well I

(11:33):
just put checkouts back in. I'll tell you what it
in the carget peck and save all the vanilla escence
is behind the till so people don't drink it isn't
that extraordinary. There's no alcohol in the shops because of

(11:56):
the licensing trust. But you've got to ask for the
vanilla essence. I've never even thought of drinking vanilla essence anyway,
get in touch. My name is Marcus Hill, twelve o'clock tonight, Marcus.

(12:16):
I bought a Muttenham last Christmas, not realizing it was sheep.
We took it all the way to pict and delicious.
The Riveton Book Butchery has a great Muttenham and hegas
and Heggas sausages. Ray, Greetings and welcome. I want to
talk about this fire. If you can see this fire.

(12:37):
I want to talk about the wallabies that now there's
more sightings down south. These more sightings and more unverified sightings,
and the unverified sightings can't be proven, but the unverified
sightings have doubled. So keep an eye out for wallabies
when you are driving around the South Island the summer.

(13:00):
With our spreading. Monday, it'll be three years since Tom
Phillips disappeared. For the second time with his three children
three years. Just so you know, by the way, I
was interested to read today about that group of people

(13:26):
who are called super recognizers. These are people who are
able to identify someone a complete stranger several years later. Yeah,

(13:48):
they've got particular abilities to see someone, and I just
wonder if you're a super recognizer. I think they're very
helpful in law and order. I did think I was
a super recognizer, but I did a test to look

(14:08):
at two people to work out who they were, and
I thought one was Adele and one was Joey from Friends,
but actually it was Angeline and joe Lee and Elon Musk. Yeah,
and the other one is that's Maclorn. Who's that?

Speaker 7 (14:24):
You know?

Speaker 3 (14:24):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
I'm not a I'm not a super recognizer. How about
this political influencer and star athlete. Because if you recognize
people upside down, you might be a super that looks
like a mummam Kron and that looks like it's Avanka
Trump and Tom Brady. So yeah, I'm not. It's quite
a good quiz this one, actually, But no, I'm not

(14:46):
a super recognizer, but I do I can see people
years later and know where I've seen them. Take to
me a while to come up with it, but I
do know where I've seen them before. Anyway, my name's Marcus. Welcome,
do get in touch of you want to be a
part of the show. Actually, don't really know what we're
going to talk about tonight. It feels christmasy, doesn't it.

(15:09):
It feels like we've peaked about two weeks too early,
free Heart and by all their suggestions for that twenty
three eyed woman for her Christmas gift towels, Candles thought
we did quite well with that mutton Hams. Anyway, do
get in touch you ought to be a part of it.
My name is Marcus Hittl, twelve o'clock tonight, eight hundred

(15:29):
and eighty ten eighty And also to want to talk
about if you are a super recognizer, if you're one
of those people that would be of interest to me. Yeah,
get in touch. As I say, Oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty and nine two nine two de text Marcus,

(15:53):
I'm a super name forgetter.

Speaker 8 (15:57):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Well, I'm not good with names, and I've had embarrassing
circumstances with names. When I've said I've tried to have
things like Oh, can you say what your name is?

Speaker 9 (16:07):
Again?

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (16:08):
You know, I no that I meant your sur name
and stuff like that. Althose sorts of work around, but
sometimes you just got to admit that you're terrible with names.
But if someone forgot my name and said they'd be
terrible with names, I'd I'd probably wipe them. No one
likes to be forgotten. So yeah, that's a true confession,

(16:31):
so I'd rather not be sprung. Marcus. I'm grumpy as
I've been trying to order a Muttonham and the only
supply I can find is Hibberd's Butchery, christ Church. The
only supply locally not to the North Island, also called
york Ham and more delicious than pig Ham. Dave, we're

(16:52):
about to tell you, Dave, get in touch Marcus. Till twelve.
I'll tell you what this is. Just me with the vibes.
I'm sensing I'm seeing less fuss about Christmas lights. I

(17:14):
think the local real estate agents keep behind it. They thought, well,
you know, gett into it Christmas. I'm seeing very few
out there is there a thing? Have I got that right?
There isn't house in christ Church? You know that people
that causes traffic mayhem. Is that still a thing or
are they all kind of on the back burner. I
know there was a place in Tall Bay or Brown's
Bay that people used to go mad for. And I

(17:37):
know that the one on Franklin Road in Auckland that's
become problematic with unruly behavior after ten o'clock at night
and kind of just became a little bit tatty. I
think too many people slightly out of the spirit of Christmas.
I'm just wondering if there's anyone got any quick comments
about Christmas lights. I think Christmas lights was big when

(17:58):
suddenly you could buy those giant, cheap strings of lights
because of lack of tariffs or import restriction, and sudden
everyone went crazy for them. I think probably the love
of that is gone, has it? I don't know, because
she need a big house to have a basement full
of Christmas lights to put them up and get down
every year. So are we still getting the big numbers
or is it done? Its dash? Think it might have

(18:20):
done it to dash, mind you. I said it's done
its dash with the photos with Father Christmas, and someone
said it's booked out till New Year's Day. Marcus, can
you please clarify that Muttenham isn't just a leg of
hogitt Intrigued, I've got no idea, Marcus. I found a
cute gift for all ages and maybe give everyone a

(18:41):
measured release from boredom during the holidays. It's called mini
Boomerang spinner Drone? Is it on Timu? I almost think
we need a professional person just going through Timu to
see what the great things are. But a mini Boomerang
spinner drone sounds pretty good if you ever look at it.

(19:03):
Oh yeah, I think we've had the kids had one.
Is quite similar that a little flying sauce that goes
on your hand, but quite delicate, break quite easily the gow.
It didn't last Christmas Day, texts, emails, calls, Marcus till twelve.
By the way, if you are saying that putting your

(19:26):
onions through as putting your apricots through as onions as
a heck, it's not a heck, it's theft. And I'm
not Johnny that sticks up for supermarkets. But you know, God,
there's a limit, Calvin. It's Marcus.

Speaker 10 (19:38):
Good evening, very good evening to your Marcus. Before I
talk to you about mutton Hams. The Scottish came from
Ireland originally from there, and also the Scottish Scottish people
at one time, I don't know how long ago, on
the outside one particular corner outside of their house, they

(19:59):
would hang mutton and the cold wind, gentle coal wind
would slowly turn into a sort of like a ham.
With that, I don't know if they sold it or
what they did. Anyway, Now getting back to oh, mutton
hams now rand Osborne ninety forty one. So in the

(20:20):
early nineteen fifties when the beekeeper climbed Mount Everest.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Oh yep from to a coach round about.

Speaker 10 (20:27):
That time we had mutton Ham. So round about the
early nineteen fifties I would recollect we had mutton Ham
for Christmas. And my father was a butcher in one
of his different jobs he had, so he knew all
about that sort of thing, but he never really talked
to us really about it.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Now butchers tended not to talk about their butchery today
they just cut quite quietly went about it. Yep.

Speaker 10 (20:51):
So anyway, the mutton Ham we bought it because in
those days we tended to have either roast mutton at
Christmas time, roast mutton or roast lamb or roast chicken.
Very few people had, you know, ordinary pig ham, pig
ham as such, So when the Muddenhams come out, a

(21:13):
lot of people were interested and decided to try it.
So our family had it, but I personally found it.
The taste was okay, but it was slightly chewy, but tough.
It wasn't. It wasn't as candorized as as ordinary pig meat.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
They say, they say it's very important how you cut it.
You got to cut it with the grain. I think
that's what they've said. It makes a very big difference
how you cut it.

Speaker 10 (21:38):
Yeah, well you'd be cutting it now if you cut
it with the grain. I mean you're just slicing it
long ways. There would be tougher to eat. You cut
it downwards down.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
To be fair. Kelvin, a butcher, had ring to explain
to me how to cut it, and I wasn't really
paying attention because I didn't have a button ham in
front of it. But I think he did say you
go with the grain or against the grain, but it
was it was one way or the other.

Speaker 10 (22:02):
Grain. Yeah, if you've got a piece of meat lying
lying down and grains game from left to right, you'd
cut it downwards from top to down to the bottom anyway.
So I wasn't all that particularly impressed with Mutton Ham
And I don't know really why it's all come on
the news talk lately. What is the reason. Does it
come back and fashion again or something?

Speaker 2 (22:24):
I just like the word, yeah, the word yeah.

Speaker 10 (22:29):
I don't follow the word actually, but you might do anyway.
That's okay, then, Marcus.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
You've missed it. So what are you going for at Christmas?

Speaker 10 (22:39):
I'll be going to they used to call a Kentucky
Fried Chicken.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
You're going to You're going to KFC Chris. They open
Christmas Day?

Speaker 10 (22:50):
Oh yeah, come on, get up with the play, Marcus.
They're open. Yes, there's the Hamilton Zoo. Yeah, you got
to get out. You've got to get out there and
have a look around.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Hamilton Zoo wouldn't be open Christmas Day.

Speaker 10 (23:03):
Now you've just heard me, Marcus. I know your hearing
is reasonably good. The Hamilton Zoo is open on Christmas Day?

Speaker 2 (23:11):
How come?

Speaker 10 (23:13):
Well, we're trying to drag more money for in the
city here to help us rate payers down. See if
you and I went to the Hamilton Gardens, now you
would have to pay, but I'll get them free.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
How come it says on their on their Facebook page
hamilton Zoo is open every day closed Christmas Day.

Speaker 10 (23:31):
Well, I can't understand that at all. No, I would say,
I would say the Facebook page is wrong.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
That's not the that's the actual website. Their website hamilton'soo
is every day closed Christmas Day.

Speaker 10 (23:45):
Yes, well I find that. I had to believe.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Are you going to go there Christmas Day after KFC?

Speaker 10 (23:51):
No? No, Kentucky Fried Chicken is a way to go.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
What will you have there?

Speaker 10 (24:00):
One of those sort of highly advertised meals. Hey, I'll
tell you what what I've seen advertised in a local
work at the Times every day because it's a small
sized newspaper there and thickness and an area and yeah
that's going.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (24:17):
And Norman that effort what sells everything? What do they
call it?

Speaker 2 (24:25):
The warehouse?

Speaker 10 (24:26):
Now? Somebody Norman Norman.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Something, Harvey Norman, Yep, Harvey.

Speaker 10 (24:33):
Norman every day about eight pages. I don't know where
a where's the money coming from? None of the money
is coming from me, so it must be coming from
people like you.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
I picked up a fridge from Harvey Norman today.

Speaker 10 (24:47):
Well there you are, you say paper, Is it common just.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
About what they've got around the newspaper or is this
going somewhere?

Speaker 10 (24:56):
The comment is the number of pages of Harvy Norman's advertisements.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Good advertising still works. It's not going to Facebook or
or Google. Tell me something. What time will you go
to KFC on Christmas Day?

Speaker 11 (25:10):
Well?

Speaker 10 (25:11):
Probably in the middle afternoon. Okay, yeah, yeah, then again I might.
I might be away somewhere else if I wouldn't. Tomorrow
Night's seventeen million. I like the number seventeen be.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Too much for you? Now, Calvin, I reckoned if you won.

Speaker 10 (25:29):
What do you mean it'll be too much?

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Too much? Seventy million be too much for you?

Speaker 10 (25:33):
I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
You have to give it all? Yeah, I reckon your
blow a head guessket there'd be too much freedom.

Speaker 10 (25:39):
I'm only eighty three. I've got a few guesskets available.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, but you know, I mean you're sitting your ways.

Speaker 10 (25:48):
No way you hear? Yes, you may be said in
your ways, Marcus, love your Calvin.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
See evening, Pete.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Oh good ay there, Marcus. I'm just calling you about
the mutton hem disinformation I found because I'd never heard
of it in my life, and yeah, I looked it
up on Google and it pretty much just reads how
Muttenham is a cured leg of mutton that originated in
the British isles. So I assumed Scotland as a winter food.

(26:26):
It was a rich and comforting dish that was served
at breakfast or late supper breakfast. Yeah, And then it
reads Muttenham was a full of British cuisine until World
War II, when farming practice was changed and mutton fell
out of favor, And then it's got these these here

(26:47):
are some other facts about mutton ham. British colonialists brought
muttonham to America in Kentucky, a sugar cured smoked variety
became popular. In Philadelphia, a smoked lamb ham was a
common sight on sideboards. And then it reads, I think

(27:08):
you covered this. Mutton Ham was a major export from Glasgow.
And then it says in Shetland de ward Meet was
called rested Ham. So that's ruble e s t I
t rest rested Ham. And the last facts, yeah, mutton

(27:30):
Ham was a mutton Ham has another meaning In the Midlands.
Mutton ham can also refer to a large sale on
a fishing boat.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
I got the old mutton Ham, up got the old man.
And it must look like that. It must be sort
of billowing like a spinnaker or something. A mutton Ham.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
I'd imagine everything.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Is it prompted you to go and buy one.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
Well, from from what I've heard from a lot of
your older callers, it would appear rather appealing. It might
be worth a try.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Someone said it's like corn silver side. I don't think
it's anything like, because corn silver sides various. I mean
corn silver size just salted beef, isn't.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
It pretty much?

Speaker 5 (28:12):
Here?

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Salt you today? So but the thing is you don't
know untill you try.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Huh yeah, but salty pete. That's very thank you for that.
That's very good research from you. I thought probably Calvin
ben and olda sort of a unit kind of it
could have been a bit more positive about the Muttonham.
They stuck in his ways. That's his problem. By the way,

(28:39):
from Colin, who is Glaswegian, talk about the Glasgow Underground.
You got it. It's a little underground circular track. Until
recently the carriages were all orange colored. It was always
known as the clockwork orange. It's amazing that have an
underground railway for so many years and they've never ever
expanded it. And someone thinks the gift for the twenty

(29:08):
three year old grandson's girlfriend would be in a choir
reed diffuser, guava and laichi sawbet. Wow, gotta love a
you gotta love a diffuser. I'll tell you something. You know,
how if all these people having like a gourmet sandwich,
you know, oh, get on TikTok. They're doing expensive sandwiches. Yeah,

(29:31):
these sandwich bars. Why is no one even on a
Muttenham sandwich with sort of grue yea cheese or I
don't know. I think it's a food that's about to
be rediscovered. This is from me having never tried one
for forty years or fifty years. Yes, sory about that camp.
I've got about four minutes for you, so welcome.

Speaker 12 (29:50):
Oh god, ok. Muttenham in the eighties and nineties were
really popular, especially.

Speaker 7 (29:56):
In Nelson's whoa really Yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (30:02):
And I wish they saw at it now because I
prefer to to actual Ham. All it is. All it
was was a league mutton, a mutton leg and they
cured it.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Yeah, there must have been something. Was this some famous
butcher and Nelson that got right behind it.

Speaker 12 (30:23):
Well, we used to buy it from the local in Wakefield.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
I wonderful Wakefield.

Speaker 12 (30:30):
Yeah, and then they started here the beach's poetry, and
then they started supplying them in.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Supermarkets cheapest creepers. What ever next?

Speaker 12 (30:42):
And I wish they'd bring it back.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
Are you used to in Wakefield?

Speaker 10 (30:49):
No?

Speaker 12 (30:49):
No, no, no, we're actually up in the bar of Islands.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Now, so it's for goodness sake whereabouts.

Speaker 12 (30:58):
I'm on my way home now to how to do Falls?

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Oh goodness beautiful.

Speaker 12 (31:05):
I'm originally from here but lived in Nelson for about
forty years, so you get around.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, you'll be looking forward to the quiet times before
it gets a bit crazy.

Speaker 12 (31:17):
Are working over Christmas or working over the holidays?

Speaker 13 (31:20):
Anyway?

Speaker 2 (31:21):
I might? I might see you there. Do you work anywhere? Exciting?

Speaker 12 (31:26):
Are we work for the Northland?

Speaker 11 (31:28):
G hb oh, yeah, we're good driver?

Speaker 2 (31:34):
Probably? I hope I don't see you then?

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (31:39):
Are you coming up?

Speaker 2 (31:41):
I might be around that way, Cam, I might. I
can't say too much because because I haven't spoken with
head office exactly where we'll be, but yeah, I think
we're somewhere in that vicinity. I always find myself near
the winterless North. But anyway, yeah, thanks for that, Cam.
So what did you say the name of the butcher
wasn't Nelson?

Speaker 12 (32:03):
It was the Agents Butchery and Wakefield.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Are they still there?

Speaker 5 (32:08):
No?

Speaker 12 (32:09):
No, unfortunately not. They were a very it was the
old fashioned butchery like yeah they were in those days
really awesome.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah yeah, okay, age it's butchery. Cheers for that, Cam. Marcus.
Forty years ago I used to take a leg of
mutton to the butcher and paumu pay them five dollars
I've picked up four days later it would be a
ham jeepers. Wow, what about a Wallaby ham Increasing's welcome

(32:42):
head on midnight we are talking mutton hams. Of course
we are current. It's Marcus welcome Hi.

Speaker 14 (32:48):
Mark, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Thank you, Couren good Now.

Speaker 15 (32:51):
My recollection of mutton Hams was about forty years ago.
My dad used to bring them back home. Used to
work at the wire taking meat work, and they had
a butcher shop, a rancey wirelhook friends. And the reason
that we used to get them out of hands because
they're also referred to as the poor man's hans. Yeah,
because they're a lot cheaper than the pork cans, but

(33:13):
oh I love them, I'd say to me, I think
the paste of the meat. The closest thing I can
sort of compare it to would be we beat the
stramai without all the spiky on the outside.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
That's right, it's like one of those Yeah, it's like pastra.
Is that that's right?

Speaker 15 (33:28):
Yeah, it's that red meat. But that's that called some
hammy flavor. But we used to we'd have it on
Christmas Day and then the next it was the Mahia
Beach to go and see my grandparents, and my mum
would always make the mutton hand sandwiches with come and
cum or pickles used to make yourself. And then she'd

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have mashed eggs, tomato and lettuce.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
Oh.

Speaker 15 (33:52):
I used to love those sandwiches. Best thing when you
come out of the water getting pippies or you've been
diving or fishing, and it was that just had the fox.
So yeah, that was my over.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
That might be the greatest Christmas call I've ever heard.
We had, we had the poor Man's ham, we had mahre,
which we all love. We had come or come off pickle.
I mean, how good is that all? To get in
a giant sandwich out of the surf. I can see
you doing that. That's just unbelievable.

Speaker 15 (34:21):
Yeah, no, best memories ever.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Mutton Ham.

Speaker 15 (34:24):
You know, if I could find a Muttonham, I might
have a ham at myself this day.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
And I think I think it might be better for
you because I think with the the ham Ham, what
we call a ham hammer ham as opposed to mutton Ham,
they fill that with nightrates to keep that pink color.
I don't know if you need to do that with
a mutton Ham. But where are you, Cora? And I'm
not coming around, but where do you live?

Speaker 15 (34:46):
Oh me, I'm actually and tarong now, but I think
you're just hitting on my way to the coramandl for
the weekend to go call me.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Do the old man? What are you going to be
fishing for?

Speaker 5 (34:57):
For snapper?

Speaker 15 (34:58):
Hopefully?

Speaker 16 (34:59):
Okay?

Speaker 15 (35:00):
Out there hops on my line?

Speaker 2 (35:01):
What sort of bait?

Speaker 14 (35:04):
Bait?

Speaker 15 (35:04):
I'm usually either just squared or the bullet tuner.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
The old bullet tuner. Okay, thanks current. I watched it.
I've watched a live series eleven today. It's quite a
good watch. That one. They catch a lot of fish,
they catch a lot of pike in the river up
there in the Arctic Circle. Guy shot a moose with
a bow and arrow, a lot of moose jerky. He
tapped though Timber was the guy's name. Good unit, but

(35:31):
he tapped, tapped about three days too early, slightly, slightly,
God bother me. But he did pretty well. It's good
to watch he Yeah, it's all about getting that food
when the when the winter starts, isn't it. But his teeth,
his teeth were good enough for all that. He had

(35:51):
a whole moose in jerky form. Should have had a
moose ham Gloria, it's Marcus. Good evening, Honey.

Speaker 17 (36:06):
Did you sound different on the phone than on the radio? Really? Yeah,
just a different different times he.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Did.

Speaker 17 (36:19):
The other lady just start on my what do you
call it?

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Thunder?

Speaker 17 (36:26):
My thunder? Yeah, it's the door my life.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yeah, because ironically it's more expensive, now, that's what that's
why it's it's it's pricier than a ham Ham if
you can get it.

Speaker 18 (36:42):
Really, yeah, doesn't enough and I don't particularly well Muttenham's.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Did you have a it was your father at the works?

Speaker 16 (36:52):
No?

Speaker 17 (36:52):
No, no, he was tructor. He had his own carrying
general carrying business and work here.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Oh wow, Yeah, access to a to a to a
mattin hem.

Speaker 13 (37:04):
Did he.

Speaker 17 (37:07):
Ges the furlers gave us heap to net?

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Yeah? Is it?

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Is it? Watira, Northland at the railway junction. Yeah, Roger
that okay, I know that, Gloria, Thank you. I had
a funny old experience with a sound the Sundi at Waiatira.
It's the story for another night. It's all about the
mutton Ham.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
Ray, good evening, Good evening, Marcus. Just a couple of
hands about the mutton Ham. And in the old days,
we used to have three cointry sheep when it was killed,
and we would have a spring lamb, which we used
to have at Christmas. But a lamb that was born

(37:49):
the previous spring would be called a hoggart, okay, and
then the older sheep would be called a mutton. And
it is the older sheep that you use for the
mutton ham. And I think that they'd be very difficult
to find to buy.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Are you trade me in marketplace? You can buy anything
these days on the dark Web.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
But the thing is you've got to have the older
meat to get the flavor.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Yeah, you want the flavor if you did a lamb.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
It would be tasteless, there wouldn't anything in it.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
And I don't called a hog it ham though, do
they call it a mutton ham?

Speaker 5 (38:34):
No, it must be mutton. It must be the older mutton.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
I'm going to convert some of my sheep next year.
I think.

Speaker 5 (38:45):
We always had spring lamb at Christmas. Yes, it was
the lamb that was born in the spring and satened up.
And the previous Christmas or spring lambs were called a
hoggits and we had those for chops and things for
frying or generally we ate most hog it, but the

(39:07):
muttain was sort of kept for the corning and taking
hands and things.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Nice to talk, raywan, thank you. Before they had frozen shipping,
refrigerated shipping to Europe, sheep were just farmed for the
wool because you couldn't export them meat, and so what
they would do is they'd run them off the cliff
and old age and yeah, until they realized they could

(39:38):
actually freeze them and export them. May be the whole
Great South Island farms and just run all the sheep
off the cliff. Once they're days of providing wool were over,
and they're amazing. We've come a long way, although there's
still no use for the wall is there. But I

(39:59):
reckon if we could, I don't know why we Well, look,
I'm not convinced that our path to financial security as
a country is not via the mutton Ham. If we
could make that a big thing internationally, there might be
some wisdom in that. I because nothing else seems to

(40:19):
be working. To be fair, hasn't been a great week
for the government. Let's just put it that way. Good evening, Nigel.

Speaker 19 (40:27):
Good evening there, Marcus. Merry Christmas to you and yours.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Thank you, Nigel.

Speaker 19 (40:34):
That's all right. Do you prefer the mutton Ham over
the Christmas ham Ham?

Speaker 13 (40:39):
Do I do you.

Speaker 10 (40:44):
Like?

Speaker 19 (40:45):
Are you having like on Christmas Day? Will you be
having turkey?

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Mutamne Nigel. As I've repeatedly said, right, it would be
fifty years since I've had a mutton Ham. I've got
no memory what it tastes like.

Speaker 19 (41:05):
Okay, you'd be pretty young men.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Yeah, exactly. That's the point I'm making is that it
still looms larger people's nostalgia because they're just not available
like they once were. Have you seen a Muttonham? Have
you seen a Muttonham? Have you seen a Muttonham this summer.

Speaker 19 (41:24):
No, I've been looking for them though, looking at I'll
be looking at the Christmas Hams though in a New
World the sixteen dollars forty nine per kilo that's for
the ham on the bone.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Seems quite reasonable?

Speaker 19 (41:38):
Yeah, yeah, which New Worlds? That Center City? New World
and Eden.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Oh, it's kind of a big one there. And I'm
never quite sure about that one.

Speaker 20 (41:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (41:50):
I was in town yesterday. You know you told me
about that break and I saw where they got in
and Hanover Street. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, wow, Yeah, you
don't have the police accord them?

Speaker 2 (42:02):
No, nothing about that. How is the old New te effectless?
George Street? Is it going all right?

Speaker 10 (42:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (42:09):
No, it's it's gorgeous street. Now. It's the best George
Street's ever looked. I like the look of it. Yep,
the best uplift of George Street we've ever had.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
How's that new mean? Not much love for him? As there?
As he going? All right?

Speaker 19 (42:24):
I'm not sure about that. He he's probably going all right.
He's he was at he was at Martin Phillips's funeral.
They're all dressed in black and he had his black
leather jacket. You know how Martin Phillips had that song
I love my leather jackets are where it all the time? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Yeah, I don't know the part the path. Okay, were
you a friend of Martin Phillips?

Speaker 19 (42:52):
No, no, I liked his music. I liked his music.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
But were you at the funeral? Did you watch it
on the on the podcast on the telecast?

Speaker 19 (43:02):
Was at the funeral? I got there after court too.
Apparently the glen Roy ordered torrium was full by Cordner's too,
But there was other lot of rooms you could sit in.
The biggest funeral I've been to.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
It was a very moving funeral.

Speaker 19 (43:18):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and his father spoke last.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
And father spoke beautifully.

Speaker 19 (43:26):
Yeah, he didn't show any emotion.

Speaker 13 (43:28):
You know, I.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Thought he was quite emotional. I thought, I mean, imagine
that singing at a child. That's just so heartbreak and
even think of anyway, I'm going to pivot. Nice to
hear from your Nigel, Thank you. A lot of deep
dives into Wham's Last Christmas. They've analyzed every frame of
that video. Who wasn't it where they are now? Never

(43:51):
loved the Wham Christmas album. That's just me though it
was right for the time. It's no bony m. Also,
I am talking to people that have got very good
sight and memory and super recognizers. Is it something that

(44:15):
you are, you're a super recognizer, you can see someone
somewhere in you. I think I am very good at that.
I can see someone them, see them a month later.
Remember I've seen them from But there's a test on
this article about if you're a super recognizer and you

(44:38):
can recognize shots of people upside down. I can't do that,
mind you, MANI, because I don't recognize the people the
right way up. One's Timothy Challamay one Sydney Sweeney.

Speaker 8 (44:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
I wouldn't know her upside down all the right way up.
So there, ego, there's that good evening, Jim. And it's
Marcus welcome, Oh.

Speaker 8 (45:02):
Good day Marcus. She's razy super recognizer. Only been Sydney
about fifty years ago. I had a friend, a policeman,
and he told me that they had a man on
the force and he would just his whole job was

(45:22):
hanging around race courses and pool halls and pubs, and
they even used to move him into state and he
could look at photos of people they were wanted and
he would find them, and it was quite legendary apparently

(45:42):
in the police force. And yeah, he was so good
at remembering. But he spent most of his working life
around race courses and pubs and all the places they
crams in those days. Is to all frequent the races there.
That was well.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
I've read articles that said the police have always targeted
and had on the thing super recognized. Yeah, very similar stories.

Speaker 8 (46:09):
Yeah, but it's set in pool halls in those days too,
which probably before your time. Guys used to go and
play billions in pool halls and almost sleazy places.

Speaker 20 (46:25):
You know.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
But great, a great job.

Speaker 8 (46:30):
I'm pretty cushy, but you're to get a rid get
it rid sick of the characters around you.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Pool halls were just for people running, you know, pool
sharks had time in there and be gambling. Is that
what it was all about?

Speaker 8 (46:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, I think gambling went on.
It was illegal, but gambling we're on in pool hall share.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
They put a lot offer in, put a lot of
efford into stomping out gambling. And you can see why
they're legalize it, can't you, Because I tell you what,
people want to gamble. It must have been a hour
a time for the police trying to stop it.

Speaker 8 (47:02):
Well, also in that era, I'm going back, as I
say years, there was no tab and they had what
they called sp bookmakers, and they were private guys who
had their client tell and they would it would ring
them and put your bets on and they used to

(47:23):
pay starting price, hence the word sp And then that
was on the Saturday, and then during the week they
would meet you in a pun payout or collect And
my dad had a friend here was an SP book
He a lovely man and he lived in a very

(47:44):
nice suburban and nice suburban house and you know, you
wouldn't think butter and melt in his mouth. And his
dad used to drink with him and he always had
he always had great wads of cash in his pocket
and he'd be paying jakers out all the time at
the bar. While they were drinking, Jacos had come up
and he'd have it on bote board.

Speaker 15 (48:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (48:08):
And but then of course they legalized or they legalized
it and started tabs. Yeah we were we.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Were you living in Sydney gym, were you?

Speaker 20 (48:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (48:20):
Yeah, in Sydney And the other thing they used to
do in those days on the building sites everybody used
to have midweek races, and well you'd see all these
guys with the best pets in their back pocket, and
they used to sort of that, have the races on loud,
you know, whether you wanted to listen to it or not,
you had to, and and that sort of ride the

(48:41):
horse that we bent over and and smacking their bottoms
as if they were whipping the horse. You used to
see that, And there are there were other jacobs on
a Saturday. The whole Saturday consisted of don't getting down

(49:03):
the pub about eleven, having a few drinks, and then
they'd replacing their bets. It'd be a cue at the
phone to ring the sp book makers and then they'd done.
Then they as the horse racers were blaring out over
the radio, they would be riding them.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Good stories, Jim, nice to talk to. Thank you for that.
That's great. Yeah, I reckon that. Have a bit of
times there before the before all that sort of gambling
with Keno and lotto and stuff like that. I hate
to say it, but it's probably a fairly exciting way
to spin to Saturday. You got the best bits and

(49:46):
the bookie at the pub and you got all day
you understand it's appeal, can't you? Marcus? There was an
legal book maker at the Royal George pub on Fitzgerald
have Christitch until it closed about two thousand. It should
be a pretty dramatic way to live your life, to
be an a legal book mak fw wits about you.

(50:11):
Australian papers have gone big on the fact that Maggie
Tabora has died. She was Australia's first supermodel name that
I've always seen around. I mean, she's someone that was
always looming large in Australian media. I never quite sure
what her background was. Working with fame photographer Helmer Newton
in the late fifties for Vogue, went on to become

(50:31):
a journalist, founded a fashion label and populations company and
hosted several TV shows. She launched a public relations firm,
Meggie Tabora and Associates. I also had a chat show
called Maggie Won a Gold Logan seventy and seventy one,
had a clothing label, had just about everything, also fashion

(50:54):
editor of the AWW. So There we Go. Would have
turned eighty eight next week and survived by her daughters
Amanda and Brooke. Greetings, Welcome Inn good evening. A text says,
can we get back to the muttonham chat?

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Now?

Speaker 2 (51:11):
It's been life changing to know that something so terrible
wasn't just a fabricated childhood trauma. Sophie Free. Happy with
your calls on the Muttonham. I will talk to whatever
people were going to talk about. That's my brief. I'd
love you to talk about the muttonham. Marcus muttonhams originally

(51:34):
called colonial hams. You would find how to prepare them
and cook them and old you think cookbooks. Well, I
don't necessarily know. They're always called colonial hams. I think
they came from Scotland, exported from Glasgow. A lot of
really interesting stories about the muttonham, but falling out of

(51:55):
favor because hams became more plentiful ham hams. And now,
of course muttonhams are quite expensive because mutton is cheap,
a pricey So yeah, I think there's cheap, farmed, cage
farmed ham from overseas. They also call it a Welsh

(52:19):
mutton ham. Sometimes a lot of different names for it.
People call it a revelation, succulent and flaf succulent and flaky,
just like corned beef and the spices cut through the
richness of the fat. It's the only show in town.

(52:46):
But what we are talking about, I don't know what
you do. You know how you glaze the ham Ham
with pineapple and cheeries. I don't know how you do
that with a mutton Ham. I don't think you get
that nice crackling edge bit on it. I don't know
that though a lot of people asking online we get
a Muttonham and Wellington minded. This was from eight years ago.

(53:11):
I reckon Preston's could be the answer there Fred to
that guy saying the Hamilton Zoo's open. Nothing's open Christmas Day.
That's the trouble with Christmas. If you're not into it's
a bit of a downer. No doubt that we trouble
at the City Mission Christmas right there always the lead

(53:37):
story of the news bulletin on Christmas Day with an
S nine headline, like the Christmas Chair was on at
full show at the City Mission and there is someone
playing the piano or something. Anyway, get in touch. My
name is Marcus. Welcome before I get myself in trouble
by saying something silly.

Speaker 21 (54:04):
A.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Marcus, if you're actually eating a mutton Ham, you'll immediately
dropped the topic. They're in abomination. Quite a polarizing ham
Sander house Prebleton on the main road. I'm unsure if
it's on this year, usually five dollars. What is Prebleton

(54:25):
there in a suburb or like a rural district? Marcus,
can you please do a shout out for my husband Adam.
He listens to every night and raves about your yarns
or what are you doing every night? If he's listening
to this, KFC and macis will open Christmas Day. Those

(54:46):
poor staff, I hope they're getting specialty wages or a
special bit of chicken. Remember that outrage at the City
Mission because there was some tourist operators from overseas herd
sold as part of their tour of traditional New Zealand.
Chris was dinner and just took all their guests to

(55:09):
the City Mission. Marcus, what a lovely pro when listened
to as per usual, you don't glaze the Muttonham Well,
I don't think so, Maggie got a lot of people
are by the way, these are the names that are
falling out of fashion. Everyone loves a story about a name, hear.
Are the names that are falling from fashion and it's

(55:33):
not Karen. I'll find out what the names are before
too long, but get in touch if you want your
My name is Marcus, welcome eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty and nine to nine two to text. I think
Matthew's falling out of favor. I think that's the case. Yeah.

(55:58):
I don't think they found that guy that shot the
insurance boss yet. Is your name dying out? Rebeccah and
Matthew risk extinction and once common names like Laura and Hannah, Rebecca,

(56:21):
Amy and Meghan have plunged out of the top one hundred.
Go figure. I can even ender how popular your name
is if you like so, I'm put in Marcus. What's
on the list? Oh, she's all over mate. Number of

(56:57):
babies each year given that name, it's off a cliff
two hundred. There we go. That's a surprise, that surprise
for no one ever. By the way, not every KFC
has opened Christmas Day, and sometimes they run out of chicken.

(57:27):
Please see below the list of stores are open on
Christmas Day. All the stores below are open, but it's
not all of them. I don't think the ones that
in Veracrgl are open that I can see from that website. Oh, well,

(57:47):
back at your Marcus till twelve. I wait hundred eighty
eight nineteen ninety to text Marcus. I need ideas for
a present. I have a grandfather who is not mobile
and not fully compassmentus. We just buy them jigsaw puzzles
and sport boox. Need some new ideas. It's a tricky
thing to buy for good evening, Denise, Denise, Denise.

Speaker 14 (58:12):
Good an evening Marcus Market. I rang about a week
ago or there about about sky TV.

Speaker 6 (58:19):
Yes, someone else.

Speaker 14 (58:23):
Losing their picture.

Speaker 6 (58:25):
I I paid twenty dollars how much you have it?
Two hundred and twenty dollars to have it fixed today
Sky just I don't know what's happening with Sky I
don't after going broke or what.

Speaker 14 (58:43):
But the lying through their teeth one when you ring
another time someone says, oh there's nothing here, saying that
we're going to do this or we're going to do that.

Speaker 5 (58:54):
Turned out that.

Speaker 6 (58:56):
Losing the picture was it turned out to be my.

Speaker 18 (59:03):
Your roof right or the dish.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Yeah, sure it was a part. That's what they said.
They said, there's a faulty part that but focuses on
that's right. They said that was what was wrong.

Speaker 8 (59:14):
With them, right.

Speaker 14 (59:16):
Well, I don't know if I should say much, but
the person who came and fixed it was a Sky
TV technicians no longer the technicians all off their jobs
with Sky and Downers, and Downers had got the job

(59:40):
of adding technicians, none of which are trained, and I
think they've only got one in the Aukland that's going
through training at the moment.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Okay, so can you can you? Are you on speaker phone?
Can you make your phone better?

Speaker 14 (01:00:04):
Is that better?

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
So? How did you get hold of this technician?

Speaker 14 (01:00:10):
Well, he was someone that I had a number for
some time ago, and he's very very good and he
lives locally I won't say where that is. And I
just happened to have his phone number and he can't.
He's struggling to keep up with the work because all

(01:00:30):
these customers are not able to get Sky to come
out and fix their problems.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
So he just operates as an independent now.

Speaker 14 (01:00:36):
Does he yes, bosically, Yeah, he's doing.

Speaker 19 (01:00:41):
So.

Speaker 14 (01:00:41):
I just thought if anybody's out there wondering if they've
got the same problem, then yeah. Unfortunately I can't give
his number out.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
No, And how long we how much was the part worth, Denise.

Speaker 14 (01:00:56):
I have no idea how the whole thing was two
hundred and twenty dollars and I just got to the
point where I thought I'm going.

Speaker 22 (01:01:03):
To pay it.

Speaker 14 (01:01:04):
Yeah, I just that Sky weren't going to come. And
he fixed it within oh, I don't know, five ten minutes,
and it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Took them, and I took him five to ten minutes.
Was two twenty But most that would be for the part,
I guess, yeah, it was, well.

Speaker 14 (01:01:21):
It was quite a big part. But how much how
much it costs, I don't know. But but for those
in the one that had the same problem, and I
know there was a couple that did. Yeah, if they
have if they're able to get hold of an ex
sky TV technician, well that's the way that you're going.

Speaker 20 (01:01:43):
To have to go.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Thanks Denise. Hi, Paul.

Speaker 13 (01:01:48):
Hi.

Speaker 7 (01:01:48):
This is just a little Prebleton story where I used
to live in Lincoln, and so every time we drove
to Cross to go to Prebleton was on the road
and I didn't so I didn't live in Pribleton but Lincoln.
But the school kids used to have this chant that
they used to do, which was Lincoln Stinking Tie tap rats.

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When you go to Prebleton you raise your hats quite good.
And we were the butt.

Speaker 20 (01:02:19):
Of the joke.

Speaker 7 (01:02:19):
Of course, we've got being in Lincoln and tie tap
used to get to serve too, and so yeah, no
funny replaced.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
But yeah, Prebleton, Lincoln stinking Ti tap rats.

Speaker 7 (01:02:33):
When you come to Prebleton, you raise your hat.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
Why does Prebleton exist?

Speaker 5 (01:02:39):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:02:39):
It was just a little town on the way between
Lincoln and christ Does they have any industry?

Speaker 10 (01:02:46):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:02:47):
God, a nicer farming. It was a farming town in
my day. Probably still is. I think there was a
few few industries here, but I can't tell you. I
don't live in there. I live in Auckland now.

Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Oh, jeepers, creepers, really, how's that working out for you?

Speaker 7 (01:03:07):
It's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
You've been there, you've been there a while.

Speaker 7 (01:03:11):
I've been there. I've been there since the earthquake. Really
ran away from Drost Jude and the earthquake.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
You're glad you did.

Speaker 22 (01:03:17):
After the earthquake.

Speaker 7 (01:03:20):
Oh, well, it's a town I wanted to come and
check out. I've lived in Australia for a long long
time and I thought i'd better come and have a
looked at Auckland and so yeah, so we did. We've
got a caravan and drove around New Zealand for a
year and then ended up in Auckland.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
Yeah, they made you feel welcome. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:03:39):
Mostly I'm a muso now play music and very various
bands enjoy enjoying what joy. Yeah, you know it's all good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Got there from you, Paulopers cantend do anything that one.
My name is extinct till Christmas d It's on everything
and anything that's joy. Jungus Little India and Wellington open
Christmas Day. Jugnash. That's the name of the name of

(01:04:08):
the restaurant Marcus I had down as collect farther to
my house. Yes, so they were contacted by Cross through
the job of taking over from Sky Marcus oseiheartrady all
the time on Alexa as indeed the receptions crap on
anything else still on AM or upgraded to FM. Surely

(01:04:30):
by now we are on FM one I six point two.
Parents have very good frequency, Marcus. My mother's first name
was Neville Margaret n E V E L E. And
how it's pronounced therefore known as Mark to most and
Piggy to friends. Another old fashioned naming regime I used

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as all my children have three first names. Number one
son uses the middle name of his grandfather and myself.
Don't know what that means. Marcus Pribleton was known for
meadow mushrooms. Don't that make sense? Just driving home from
work that lady spent two twenty on repairing a dish.
You can buy a new one for one point fifty

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from nol Leaming. Just screw it up and plug it in.
The railway line from Hornby runs down Shane's Road all
the way to Prebbleton behind the old Meado mushroom factory.
Thanks John. If you are driving around as an Uber
driver or something, you want to tell me about how
busy it is out there, if it's going crazy before Christmas.

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By the way, here's I was reading today with American restaurants.
Three quarters of food now and restaurants is takeout. Most
people now getting food delivered by Uber and eating it
at home or in their hotel. Three quarters. That's why

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all the restaurants are empty. Now I can tell you
about unusual names now. Zoey emerged as one of the
less common boys names in the country. Three toddlers given

(01:06:26):
what was historically a girl's name. Likewise, three baby boys
were named Xavion, x A, y, v i O, n Zim, Chicken, Zim, Chicken, Chim, Woody, Tiger,
and Trim. Other rare male names include Jupiter, Jack, Junior,

(01:06:48):
and Gin. Nine boys were called Patents, Blessing, and Wisdom.
There were instants of children being named that. Among the
slightly moron Can conventional names were Hershey and King David.

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Six boys were named Beckham. Seven infants received the name Papa.
When it came to girls, name Zanaida was amongst the
most unusual three babies given that name. There you go, Zawela, Honor, Gift, Fox,

(01:07:38):
and Daja. Continuing trend of turning words used to describe
feelings into quirky and individual names, Dan, sky Teal, Winner
and Awesome were names, as well as sky Larray, sky La,
May and Kit and Lamar. There you go. Girls' names,

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they're all the a's. They valley names, Olivia, Amelia, Isla,
freyer Ava, Florence, Willow, Isabella on a bicycle, so it's
all very vowley. Don't know what that's about because the
kind of musical sounding. I think full board me Light
Me Up. Twenty three to twelve. I'm almost feeling like
playing Carol's. That's kind of where I am. I think

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we might do a little drummer boy avowed not to
par upper pump pum, although on the night before Christmas
we might just talk to people called Carol. That might
be a good option. Also tonight, Oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty Helga Marcus welcome, Oh hi, Hi, Hi Helga.

Speaker 16 (01:08:46):
Yep, God good. I just talk about my name Helga.
I've only ever met one Helga, but really two streets
and ortguns.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Really know you've only met one one Helga?

Speaker 16 (01:09:04):
And my life in New.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Zealand, I think I've met Helga's.

Speaker 16 (01:09:09):
You might have met me markers because I'm in Auckland.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Where are the Helga streets?

Speaker 16 (01:09:17):
Halger Streets and Tierta two? My brother used to stay
in Helga House and Helga Street. Yeah, and there's a
north shore Helga Streets.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Have you been? Have you been? Has your photo taken
under the street name? Sign? That toys a good thing
to do?

Speaker 16 (01:09:34):
I must do that, must go be, You've got to
do that.

Speaker 15 (01:09:37):
Where's where is it?

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
From Norway?

Speaker 16 (01:09:40):
My Norwegian grandfather came.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
It's Helga are there many Norwegians and New Zealand.

Speaker 9 (01:09:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:09:48):
Down north, of course there are, and in Auckland there are.
I've met a few. They used to have a Norwegian
club when I was younger, but I don't know. I
haven't checked that out.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
What would happen in the Norwegian club. You haven't got
any special food or anything, have you.

Speaker 16 (01:10:04):
I never went to. Oh I went to at once.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Yeah, they did hearings or something.

Speaker 16 (01:10:11):
Yeah. They like sardines, yeah, which.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
We all love, but I mean, you know, if you
want to go out to eat them.

Speaker 16 (01:10:19):
I don't think they have a saradine rest and the
engage in sad restaurant.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
Where was the Norway club?

Speaker 16 (01:10:28):
It used to be up somewhere around their Ponsonby. I
think I can't can't know that it was out east.
I can't remember because I had a friend and her
son had well, she had an affair with the Norwegian
salah and his name was Olav and her husband, oh yeah,

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and then she married in Norwegian. But now I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
I've never thought much about Norwegian New Zealanders.

Speaker 16 (01:11:01):
Yeah, where I had a sister called a Nietsra after
Pi against tweet.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
Oh I love here against Sweet. I love pe against Sweet.

Speaker 9 (01:11:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:11:10):
Well, there was a good dancing girl called Helga. That's right,
my Anitra. So my sister was called Anitra Inger and
I'm Halga Goodwin.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
They say that Russell Crowe was Norwegian. I'm looking up
notable Norwegian New Zealand as the only person mentioned is
Russell Crowe.

Speaker 16 (01:11:35):
Well, I'd said to something interesting about my grandfather, Leonard Mohler.
His father was the captain of the sailing ship in
Norway two hundred years ago, and he went to see
at nine, and then when he grew up he became
a n no. Nine years of.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Abe goodness, I see what you're saying. Okay, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 16 (01:11:56):
And then he grew His first trip was from Norway
to South American Bank, so he learned, and so he
ender all about the shop and steering the sailing ships.
And he grew up. He learned English, and at the
time of Hitler, he worked on the steamship that came
from England to New Zealand bringing two hundred and sixty

(01:12:17):
six passengers and freight, and they got shipwrecked on Great
Barrier Island in nineteen twenty two.

Speaker 2 (01:12:26):
Miscreen. What was the name of the ship?

Speaker 16 (01:12:28):
Did you say the Wiltshire?

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
W Oh, yeah, that was a famous wreck there, yes, yes, yes, yeah, And.

Speaker 16 (01:12:36):
We've got the chest that survived. But there's a DVD
at the library showing you can dive round the Wiltshire
at Trifina. Okay, yes, so he got shipwrecked, but he
lived in ponds and me at the three Lamps. They
bought a house in Clarence Street. Was he the skipper, No, No,

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he was the helmsman.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Was it his Was it his fault?

Speaker 16 (01:13:05):
I don't know, because Unkie said that she was two
and she said that the English captain arrived in Auckland
and the harbor masters said, no, ship's allowed to leave
New Zealand because there's a big storm in the Pacific.
And the English captain didn't listen. It was a time
of waiscoat and harbor masters said, if you go out there,

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no there's ships, we're not going to help you. So
they went anyway and they were drifting and they did
the mostcode back to Auckland, said we need help, and
they said no. So they just let them go and
they leaded half on half on the island half off
a big ship with two funnels, and it was going

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to break up. So they hauled their chests onto their
big wooden chests onto the island on that side of
the boat and it broke up and they were forty eight.

Speaker 7 (01:14:00):
Hours in the storm.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
No loss of life, no, not one person.

Speaker 16 (01:14:06):
And I think they had to haul the chess up
the hill because the Mary's apparently were up up there
but nineteen two, but it was modern times and they
couldn't get down, so they had to haul the big
chests up the whole. Have you been to Trophina, Yes, yes,
so because you couldn't get they were and how they

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what they did? There was a big cover on a
freak shiphold, so someone got there. They took the wires
from the the the chimneys and got the wires and
they used the wires for something and swim over. I
don't know exactly what they did, but it's online and
it's in the book called Auckland Shipwrecks. But not about

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my grandfather's but that.

Speaker 7 (01:14:52):
I've told you.

Speaker 16 (01:14:55):
Goodness me, so I'm a result, but I would have
still been the largest for you to die, you know,
it said, I'm glad he lived but the chest is wonderful.
It's made of wood from Norway. Perfect inside. But my
auntie put a paint and so outside you've got a
big circle of colored paint on top.

Speaker 2 (01:15:18):
Oh well not not. That's a forgivable thing to do.
A lot of people have done that, I know.

Speaker 16 (01:15:23):
But it's smelled of Tampa. You know how they used
to put the sheets and things in Tampa while but
that was to stop the moss.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Very good.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Hell there, nice to talk to you. Thank you for that.
Fourteen to eleven I read in Australia banks are charging
their customers three dollars every time cash is withdrawn from
bank accounts as most banks here Australia. It's going to
come here eventually, That's right. Everyone wants. They just want
everyone to go cashless and onto app I'm sure of it.
Mark is the best place to buy you an e

(01:15:55):
can handmade gifts for Christmas? Is trade Aid? I thought
trade Aid had gone broke. They've closed the trade aid shops.
Did I get that wrong? I'm sure that was a
thing you should Oh, that's right. Was it gone they're
closing down? Or I got that one wrong. I'll better
check that. I'm sure, Yes, trade aide ships focus progressively

(01:16:18):
closing retail stores. So they are closing. Yeah, so yes,
maybe it's online. Maybe it's a website. According to brother Dan,
say it's an online thing. So there you go. It's
not a shop. It's not a shop. It's a website.

(01:16:40):
I don't think it's a good thing. Is a website?
Good drinking chocolate? That might be good. Get it for
the twenty three year old grandson's girlfriend. Get us some
roy bosh the are you? The young women love a
wacky tea? Don't they?

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Do you want a wacky tea? Or nuts? Haven't got
me all the brick and mortar clothes, so they haven't
got much stuff. They're no nuts and seeds. So there

(01:17:22):
we go. That's them. Sorry, so pleasant. The stuff I've
always said always smelt or didn't it what it smelt like?
Sandal wood or something? Soap, nuts, all that sort of stuff. Anyway,
we've got good puzzles for the kids. Marcus I lived

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in Willington the seventy is a hairdresser I used to
go to. Her name was Helga. I believe she used
to travel with the Mischis and in contests. Contestants and
assist with hair dressing. Wasn't Harger the Horrible wife called
Helga in that cartoon strip? Do you remember that? It

(01:18:11):
was always in the papers? Harder the Horrible I think
his wife was Helga. I shall fact that, fact check
that myself. It was pretty funny. Harga the Horrible I
think Helga.

Speaker 15 (01:18:32):
Was.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
She herself had the spiked helmet, and the duck was
called Cavac kV Ac caves. Very funny. Quite a funny
cartoon that the Hopeless daughter. Didn't they remember that was
set in Norway in the Middle Ages? Yep, very funny.

(01:18:58):
Remember Lucky Eddie was at the ship with him the
first mate. Extremely good cartoon strip. Adam, it's Marcus. Welcome,
Hello Marcus.

Speaker 23 (01:19:10):
How's it going good?

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
Thank you, Adam.

Speaker 23 (01:19:13):
I'm just interested in your thoughts on the stadium at
Winged Point.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Sure where are we? It's a proposal, but it's not
going to happen.

Speaker 23 (01:19:22):
Right, Well, we hope it will happen. I don't think
it's going to be funded by the council, so I
think it's going to be from my intelligence, it's it's
it's three councilors are in favor of park being renovated,

(01:19:42):
which I don't necessarily agree with. Yeah, in terms of
we're just built the city rail link in central Auckland.
We've got amazing hostility in Central Auckland. We've got a
prime waterfront spot. It is not going to be used.
The alternative is building a park on the waterfront section,

(01:20:04):
which is tex fair money. We've got Victoria Park right
behind it. We could build a beautiful prime stadium right
on the waterfront.

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Okay, are you involved with the stadium anyway?

Speaker 13 (01:20:19):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Okay, when you say we've got Victoria Park right, yes,
I would much rather the stadium went there and had
the park on the point. I don't like stadiums downtown.
I think they're dead for most of the time. I
don't think there's many occasions in Auckland that would fill
a stadium. I think people get over a motive about

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them and say they're going to be great for a city,
but in fact they never are. There's just a whole
area of the city that's dead because you've got this
great thing with no one for most of the time.
I always think they should be out. I always think
they should be out in the WAPs.

Speaker 23 (01:21:00):
With our new rail system and public transport. The biggest
issue with it. Most of our stadiums is out. They
are out in the now, difficult to get to. Because
if you have this new rail system, give it downtown.
People can appreciate the hospitality. If you have Victoria Park's
a beautiful ground as it is, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
Come on Victoria Parks. Victoria Park is awful, surrounded by
buses and traffics. It's a flat bit of land with
an old stadium and a flyover. It's a horrible park.

Speaker 23 (01:21:33):
Grafton is beautiful Grafton.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
But if you had do you say Victoria.

Speaker 23 (01:21:41):
Park Victoria Park. Yes, But if you have a prime
stadium on the waterfront in Auckland, it becomes iconic like
the Sydney Opera House becomes iconic on the waterfront. Do
you know how much of the of the waterfront of
Auckland waterfront is fronted by taxpayer money in Auckland and

(01:22:03):
not one in the only section for awkn waterfront. Actually
the Auckland rate pants get access to there's stairs when
you'd quarters.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
What's the steers what's the steers at when you'd.

Speaker 23 (01:22:18):
Quarter next to the cloud they can you can walk
down it and do a mono off it, that is it?

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Oh yeah, I just don't think it's a very good
use of waterfront land to put a stadium on it.
An inward looking stadium.

Speaker 23 (01:22:33):
But what about it if you build a whole quarter
around it, you have a grand sent on the front,
you can look out to the sale GP. What you're
about to do? You have it there for future America's
Cups months grunt Alton brings it back.

Speaker 7 (01:22:49):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
I don't think the America's Cups cover it. No, I
just don't think. I just don't. I think it's a
waste of waterfront lane to put a stadium there. I
feel quite strongly about that. It's inward looking. You don't
put a stadium where there's a view, there's no point
to it.

Speaker 23 (01:23:01):
What about a cultural quarter? What so, what would be
alternative market? What would you put there to make the
most of the waterfront?

Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Oh yeah, well.

Speaker 23 (01:23:12):
Another park in front of more apartments.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Well, I think the park's probably fairly important for people
to come and have that interface with the waterfront. That's
that's really what Sydney works.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
In Sydney you've got not so much.

Speaker 23 (01:23:24):
The in front of the waterfront though. On the waterfront
the opera house building.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
It's all that space around that. I mean the opera house,
the concrete steps. Oh, you've got quite a big area.
It comes down from that, the botanic gardens and stuff.
It's it's quite a well integrated waterfront there. You look
at the Welling, you look at the Wellington waterfront. Yeah,
that seems to be the sort of sports stadiums there

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also aren't there anyway. I don't think it'll happen. But
the other thing is what events are going to be
there because people don't go to sports so much anymore.
There's the football team that's doing well, but they'll get
sick of that. No one turns up for the Blues,
no one tells it, turns up for the Auckland NPC matches.
Acts like Taylor Swift won't come because there's not enough accommodation.

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So you say, I mean Dunedin got seduced into having
a stadium. No one turns up there. They haven't had
an act there forever.

Speaker 23 (01:24:23):
I guess about the whole I think it's about the
downtown experienced Aalkland. I think if you create that, you've
seen it with Spark Arena, right, It's attracted a lot
more nightlife to the city.

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
But it's a dead area around there. It's a whole
block that Sky Arena because it's sort of because that's
what arenas do. They've got this these.

Speaker 23 (01:24:41):
Huge walls, Spark Arena, Spark Arena.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
Spark Arena. Yeah, why do you say Grafton though, that's
what I couldn't work at. What you see? What do you
say Grafton?

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Go?

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
Okay, I'll let you go. Aw, I'm not here, George Marcus.

Speaker 22 (01:25:02):
Welcome mate. That was a good conversation there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Oh good, I'm pleased you like it, George.

Speaker 22 (01:25:08):
Yeah, I was going to talk about the aucland Is
Sea game tomorrow and stuff and you are you excited
for it?

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
What time is it on?

Speaker 22 (01:25:16):
Five o'clock?

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Mate?

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Okay, ah, hey, I'll watch it.

Speaker 20 (01:25:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:25:25):
Do you think Aukland will win? I think they'll win.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Again, I don't think they will. I thought probably. I
preferred the way the Phoenix played the last match, apart
from that terrible goalkeeper blue.

Speaker 22 (01:25:36):
I was at that game. Yeah, I was at the
Wellington game. Yeah that was crazy. Yeah, that was a
horrible blue.

Speaker 19 (01:25:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
So I yeah, I don't I would rather this was
the Phoenix this year.

Speaker 20 (01:25:52):
I hope so too.

Speaker 22 (01:25:53):
Yeah, I'm Wellington originally, but who's Aukland.

Speaker 16 (01:25:56):
You know.

Speaker 22 (01:25:56):
I hope Wellington win tomorrow, you know, like yeah, if
you go Wellington.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
But they've done great, they've done great with the promotion
of it. But I imagine it will sour. I imagine
it all seems to be It all seems to be hype.
I just wonder how sustainable it's going to be.

Speaker 20 (01:26:11):
Heere, do you reckon?

Speaker 22 (01:26:12):
But I heard somewhere that they might want to build
a stadium at the Western Spring space. Now that that's gone.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
I haven't heard that, but that could well happen. Someone
will know. George, nice to talk. Thank you. Stephen Marcus alone,
Oh hello.

Speaker 13 (01:26:25):
This I guess ye steal it here, but I don't
to open a can of worms. But political or racial?
That is the golf course at Rangland still open.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
I wouldn't think so that was stolen land, wasn't it.

Speaker 13 (01:26:42):
It was? Well, I'm not sure what the full story was,
except that some few years ago its closed and I
believe it's all reverted back to second rank, second generation growth.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Yeah, I wouldn't know.

Speaker 13 (01:27:07):
I thought between you and I we knew evident. And
that's one of the things you knew.

Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
No, I wouldn't know. I know that it was big
when they occupied it would have been taken for an airfield.

Speaker 13 (01:27:19):
I think, Oh, so there's two airfields.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
I think we've taken fromn airfield. They returned the land
to the Ewee, didn't they.

Speaker 13 (01:27:32):
I don't know whether that deal was completed, but the
last talk of.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
It, but I think I think I think there's another
golf course there anyway, isn't there?

Speaker 10 (01:27:40):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (01:27:42):
Oh, I did not know that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Why where are you.

Speaker 13 (01:27:47):
Auckland?

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Okay? Why is some interested in the Ragland golf course?

Speaker 13 (01:27:52):
Because I'm a golf fanatic, have been. This was of
at twelve forty eight years of age, yep, and i've
over the last few years I've had the urge to
go play at regular golf course for there was spot there.
Well that's just a scrubb it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Yeah, why don't you just go and have a look yourself.

Speaker 13 (01:28:15):
Oh that was a special trip.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
Yeah, if you're in the golfer us.

Speaker 13 (01:28:22):
Yeah, but then they get down there, it's not there
were time.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
We'll just google wh's your scenes of adventure?

Speaker 13 (01:28:31):
Well they could do.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
I'm sure there's a new course there.

Speaker 13 (01:28:41):
Oh yes, I'll follow avenues over see how we get on.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
Steve Marcus, welcome, good evening.

Speaker 21 (01:28:51):
Yeah, so you're talking about the stadium. They're going to
build an upland Victoria Park's not suitable. That's that's all
backfill from the Brita Mark that developed. Also, there's all
one where World War One tunnels under there. The grounds

(01:29:11):
very unstable. The best place to build a stadium is
Gloucester Park and Only Hanger. It's just like the Cape
ten and Willington. It's surrounded by motorways, but it'd be
an ideal spot. The Glocester Park in in Only Hunger.

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Why do you say the Victoria Park is all lend for?
Where's it lends full.

Speaker 21 (01:29:35):
From from the Brita Mark development. When they were building
the there was a car park, there were office buildings there,
all sorts of things all around the back of the
post office. All that material was was dumped in Victoria Park.

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They backfilled the water first World War.

Speaker 2 (01:29:59):
Tunnels and I think I think Gloucester Park and Hunger
is originally a volcanic cone.

Speaker 21 (01:30:06):
Yeah it's okay, no, no, that's not it's.

Speaker 2 (01:30:10):
Not a criticism, but there's got a has got a
motorway going right through it hasn't.

Speaker 7 (01:30:13):
It around it.

Speaker 21 (01:30:17):
Mount Smarts are same but is used.

Speaker 19 (01:30:20):
Well.

Speaker 21 (01:30:20):
Gloucester Park would be ideal for a international stadium. It's yeah,
have a look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
Oh, I know Gloucester Park. Well, I think there used
to be speedway there.

Speaker 21 (01:30:32):
It used to be years ago. It would be ideal.

Speaker 7 (01:30:37):
But the trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
The trouble is Steve. People keep talking about where would
be a good place for a stadium, but people don't
realize that that people don't go out like they once did.
They'll go to Adele once every five years, but she's
not going to be around forever. They don't turn up
to sport any more apart from football. That will that
will sour. So what do they tune up for the

(01:30:57):
All Blacks once a year? Well that's not enough to
keep an area of vital is it?

Speaker 21 (01:31:02):
I really no? You see we Western Springs Heaven just
gift the speedway, you know, as I'll say, you're coming
out that way towards only Hunger where they're going to
go to what Wreca Park they'll combined with all that area,
I think it'd be quite a good hub for sports

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all in that same area.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
Is it where you're from.

Speaker 21 (01:31:30):
I know I'm from Mahta who ext originally.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
You know that area quite well?

Speaker 21 (01:31:36):
A yeah, I know the area and you know that
to me would look look to be quite a good spot.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
Don't your Christmas preserving of meat yet? Steve?

Speaker 21 (01:31:52):
Yes, I've got my turkey. It's been corned and smoked.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
Okay, did you shoot it?

Speaker 21 (01:31:59):
Yeah? I went up to Colvill and got one. Yeah,
Farmier was quite happy to get rid of it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
Okay. I thought you might try a peacock or something.

Speaker 21 (01:32:08):
No, but I have had a black swan just recently.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
Any good.

Speaker 21 (01:32:14):
It wasn't very nice.

Speaker 19 (01:32:16):
It was edible.

Speaker 2 (01:32:17):
How'd you co? How'd you cook it?

Speaker 21 (01:32:21):
Well? Actually I put them on the I've got a
smoker on the barbecue smoked them. Yeah, it was quite
it was.

Speaker 19 (01:32:30):
It was edible.

Speaker 5 (01:32:31):
You need it.

Speaker 21 (01:32:32):
You were hungry. But you know they're out on the
Caromeinal Harbor and they eat all the baby founder so
they've got a very fishy, fishy taste to them. They
even had a goose given to me that had been
shot on the Headling Lake. But no, I think you've

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got to farm them and give them a good tacker or.

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
Put them in a pin for a while before you
kill them to get that.

Speaker 21 (01:33:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, them up on good tacker because they're
all sort of you know, they're the sort of foraging
on whatever they can get. And yeah, no, it would
be good if the farm you could pet them up

(01:33:23):
and get them on good tacker.

Speaker 2 (01:33:25):
You don't, you don Canada goose lately?

Speaker 10 (01:33:29):
No?

Speaker 21 (01:33:31):
No, I haven't done a goose oh long time ago.
But the thing was where you see goose geese a
game bird. I think the one I got they hadn't
removed the oil glen of the.

Speaker 11 (01:33:45):
Tail to get that.

Speaker 21 (01:33:46):
Yes, yes, yes, and he got that oil he taste,
Oh yeah, no, even my cat wouldn't touch it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
What's the cats? What's the cat's name?

Speaker 13 (01:33:56):
Becky gee?

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
Same as same as the cat. Everything's called Blacky. Thank you.
I don't know where you get a Christmas goose. That's
a very British thing to do a goose. I couldn't
be bothered, but I like to say in the word goose.
I have to admit with the stadium discussions, I've kind

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of glazed out because there's always these people coming up
with grand ideas for stadiums. But I think they're always
built on dreams free ready it does private groups even
put together a stadium, particularly how the economy is tanked,
and I think it's ever going to happen, and the

(01:34:43):
government will Council is not going to do one, and
probably rightly, we've got enough stadiums for now. Eden Park
is satisfactory. It's not ideal, but it's satisfactory. But every
time that council comes up with a cost analysis for
a stadium, they're wildly inaccurate. They always say it's going

(01:35:04):
to do this and going to do that, and going
to do this. Look at the need and they're going
to bring these great acts. No one wants to play there,
but yeah, I don't reckon because you're not going to
get the people tuning up for it anyway. Kind of

(01:35:25):
common sense always leaves the discussion on those things what
a cities want rather than the stadium. It's going to say,
Allkland probably needs to roller coaster. They've got one at
Rainbows In but it's been pretty tired. Oh you're parked
by the waterfront. That's what I'd be doing. Beautiful down

(01:35:46):
by the water that's where people want to go. Mind you,
you want to get the old pipes fixings. You could
swim in the white matar. I see last weekend about
thirty of the beaches were unswimmable. Well that's an outrage,
but that's water where the money goes. We need to

(01:36:07):
maintain the pipes and things. Hahuh. Get in touch. You've
got anything to add to the discussion. Any other questions,
query things people want to say? Any drivers out there
that are ubering around? How busy has it been? Is
there are kind of a bounce on the Christmas yet?
Haven't had a call a week about Timu? Here's the

(01:36:28):
Temu buzz? Soured? Wouldn't mind talking to you about that?
How's the Temu buzz? Not often I go a week
without anyone mentioning Temu. Now some of the other discussions.
What else do you want to mention? Very very quickly

(01:36:49):
before twelve? How are you going for hobbies? Or anyone
got any suggestions or questions for gifts? By the way,
like Balley nine are coming out of prison soon, and

(01:37:10):
I'll tell you what they look really well, they look
transformed by their prison experience.

Speaker 3 (01:37:19):
Are there?

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
A couple of them were executed, but the rest look good.
They're about to be released. The ringleaders executed. One of them,
Renee Lawrence, was released and another one died of cancer
the same year. They can't go back to Indonesia, but

(01:37:42):
I don't think Chappelle can go back to Indonesia?

Speaker 13 (01:37:44):
Can she?

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
I'm not quite sure what's happening Chappelle. I used to
follow her on Instagram for while. She's making clocks sort
of a bit crafty but sort of yeah, like resin clocks. Oh,
she can no longer make the clock due to a

(01:38:08):
change in her life. Woer what the change in her
life is? And she's got a reson aalergy. Yeah, she says,
you have to give up the resin. She's moved to Perth.

(01:38:38):
The clocks are one hundred and ninety nine dollars online
and as signed with Chappelle to stamp their authenticity. So
there we go three confusing olle Quis doesn't say what
she's going to do instead of making clocks. She's got
another job. There was a big discussion on talk about

(01:39:04):
when Chappelle was before the courts, no one could believe
she was guilty. Such a sweet faced, innocent looking person. Marcus,
I've been buying heaps on Timu. It's like Christmas, but
ladies don't buy bras terrible sizing anything else brilliant Merry Christmas, Marcus.

(01:39:26):
I don't quite know how the sizing too big, too small,
or wrong sizing, Marcus. Sorry, not tuning in tonight, just
watching a video of Mamma Cass and John Denver leaving
on a hiplane and reflecting on the tragedy of Mamma
Kess's life. That's right. There's been some discussion recently about
Mamma Kass's life and her cause of death and the

(01:39:50):
misinformation about that, And I don't even know what all
that was about, but it seemed surprising she didn't choke
on a ham sandwich. I don't quite know what that
information got out there. It was all kind of tragic. Yeah,

(01:40:17):
she had a heart attack without any drugs in her system.
There's been a biography written about her. Yeah, So I
don't quite quite know who was responsible for the misinformation
about that. She had been an a beast child and

(01:40:41):
had been fed amphetamines for that, which I'm sure would
have had a huge effect on her heart. Anyway, Jerry,
it's Marcus. Good evening and welcome, Hi, Jerry. Oh sorry
I pushed the button really bare the Hi Jeriot's mark,
Hi Jeriots Marcus, Yeah, welcome, are we here to guess

(01:41:05):
you're here.

Speaker 24 (01:41:06):
I just want to solve a little conundrum for you. Yes,
you're concerned about why Chappelle gave up the clocks? Yeah, well,
what did she do in prison? I don't know she

(01:41:28):
did time. I thought that might bring a smile to
your face.

Speaker 2 (01:41:37):
Yes, to very strange out and about the resin clocks
because she says she can no longer make them because
you can't say what she's doing. But I think Ballei
jail's real relaxed. I think you get a lot of visitors.
You spend a lot of time out of jail. Always
picture kind of on mopeds going around the island.

Speaker 10 (01:41:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:41:55):
Well, here's another little bit of background thing is that
I've never been to Bali, hoping my daughter goes there
a lot. And and Chappelle was convicted on my daughter's birthday. Wow,
forgot on her thirty seventh birthday.

Speaker 13 (01:42:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:42:15):
And and another little sort of type this small with
New Zealand rather than Australia, is that Chappelle was born
on d C day Decimal currency day, not not the
real day when it started, but on the tenth of July.

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
How do you know all this? I just remember things
because you're a good memory.

Speaker 24 (01:42:37):
Well I have to at my age. Yeah, otherwise I'd
forget things.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
Don't keep your memory fresh.

Speaker 7 (01:42:45):
I just google it.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
Oh that I reckon google? Rick your memory?

Speaker 24 (01:42:50):
Well, actually, well I remembered. I remembered in the time
just before I called you, and I'm still can remember it,
so it seems to last.

Speaker 10 (01:43:01):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
Okay, how's anything else? Anything else from you?

Speaker 9 (01:43:05):
Oh?

Speaker 24 (01:43:05):
No, I'm going and I'm fine. Thanks. Make because you
don't have a good Christmas, I'm don't to speak to
you beforehand.

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
You're not a super recognizer, are you?

Speaker 13 (01:43:12):
Jerry?

Speaker 24 (01:43:13):
Pretty good on faces?

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
Are you? How good?

Speaker 24 (01:43:18):
Every time I'm looking mirror?

Speaker 7 (01:43:19):
I know who?

Speaker 19 (01:43:19):
That is?

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
Brilliant? Good thing to say, Jerry. I like Carol's by Candlelight.
I look forward to hearing Calvin ring Up introducing himself
as Carol, and all the other voices I recognize calling
themselves Carol. Fun idea Carol that's actually from Carol. Do
we have enough people to pretend to be Carol to
have Carols by candlelight? I'm almost thinking of a pun

(01:43:43):
on candlelight can you ask ai for that? What we're
good sort of carols by not jendle night, but something
like that. Carroll Endal band or candle dandal fandle handle
Mendel Ralph Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 8 (01:44:07):
Marcus.

Speaker 18 (01:44:08):
I just I was just lying and you were talking
about you had a check on shooting geese and turkeys
and things of fuel while minutes ago. And I've got
this old Redsipie books about one hundred and thirty years old,
and a trick they used to do when this book
was around at that time to take the the awful

(01:44:30):
taste away from the geese, you needed to peel a
lemon very finely and put it in bird and don't
ever put it near the mouth. But you had to
carefully take this thing out after you cooked the lemon,
and it absorbed all the them, the wild taste and oiled.

Speaker 3 (01:44:52):
Wow.

Speaker 18 (01:44:53):
If you'd ever track and if you ever tasted that, boy,
it was it was. It was putrid, but it did
it put the bird and it was as I said,
so out of this book, one hundred and forty year
old cooked book, I've got I.

Speaker 2 (01:45:07):
Wonder why the lemon would absorb all the all the
strong tastes. Is that just what lemons do? Are they
one of those? I guess they do. It's like an onion,
isn't it the absorbed things off your paint a house,
they'll absorb the fumes.

Speaker 18 (01:45:19):
Well, I think by taking that the skin off tinly
was out working the person everything, but then made it
more absorbent and what lot a lot diener at what
it did.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
Okay, I appreciate that, Ralph, thank you. Frank Marcus good evening, Hey, Cure,
how are you good? Frank? Good Frank?

Speaker 20 (01:45:44):
Yeah, two things to talk about profit polluting for profit.
But first the mutining you know, Mattin was the blue
stripe from the phrases in a big sheep yep, a
big leads and that's something's quite fairy fairy ones. But anyway,
you have never heard of it being sold uncooked. It

(01:46:05):
was always cooked hens yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they
started and led them in muslim cloth and then they
got into was it cryvack you know, so it was yeah,
but the meanway you you're just it was just like
hamm and you just carve it off, you know, carve
it and you know, have any semis we'll have it,

(01:46:26):
you know. But The best time to have it was
when it's starting to go off. Well, you know you're
not going to use it. And even though you had
a wet tea towel over or teatael over it, but yeah,
you fr it up and it's better. It tastes better
than bacon.

Speaker 2 (01:46:41):
Oh wow, now you're talking.

Speaker 20 (01:46:44):
Yeah, and it's just yeah, just beautiful, beautiful stuff. And
it's for carving that you know, how you get laying
lea leag chops and it's cut through that, you know,
just straight through the league. You just got your league chops. Yes, yeah,
well you can actually do that with carving too, you can,
you know, just cut it that way and then just
slide your knife right along the bone. It just comes

(01:47:05):
off like, you know, perfect amounts of the sizes that
you want and it's sure, you know, so you don't
have to worry about being a fleshy week over and
you just do it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:47:16):
You know where you get around where you get your
mutton ham from Frank.

Speaker 20 (01:47:22):
The last time I got there, there was a fantastic
shop and Ross and Dunedin. Oh yeah, Arthur Shriff. It
was Dave, David Camman and Arthur Shriff. A run there,
cheeky fellers. Yeah, and I know just the bacon was
fantastic and it was the professional butchers before you had
these greedy people who come into it and pumped it

(01:47:44):
full of water and stuff. You know, but you know
the bacon. These days, you you're checking them in the
fry pain or whatever, and it's all the swater comes
out and it's just it's not professional and it's not proper.

Speaker 24 (01:47:57):
But anyway, it's outright.

Speaker 2 (01:47:58):
I'm hearing you, Frank. Thank you for that. Thank you
for saying what we're all been thinking. Someone's different proposal
for Carols by Candlelight as Carol's and Descending Light or
Carol's in Descending Height and Summon said Carol's by Errol Dte,
which I thought is quite a witty, humorous thing to
have written. So thanks for that. Hello, David. A's Marcus.

(01:48:20):
Good evening and welcome.

Speaker 11 (01:48:23):
Yeah, hello Marcus. Just listening to you elate night Collins.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
Again.

Speaker 11 (01:48:28):
I just thought i'd give you a quick caller. I
just wanted to give a bit of a shout out
to a young fellow in Pirmiston, North I just drove
down Johnny F. Kennedy Drive and each year before Christmas.
He usually forestoons lights on a car on his parent's
property on the road front, and it's always very popular.

(01:48:48):
He started a little thing called JFK Lights for JFK
John F. Kennedy Drive. But I just wanted to give
him an extra bit of credit tonight because I was
driving past a couple of days ago and I had
to do a double take because I looked across on
the property across the road from his had a helicopter
packed on the front lawn.

Speaker 2 (01:49:07):
Wow.

Speaker 11 (01:49:08):
And I called and I had a chat to him,
and he told me a bit of backstory, and I
just called past this evening to see it because they've
lit it all up with drape with lights and it
looks fantastic and it's proving very popular, a lot of
people stopping and getting photos of these two properties. But
the backstory too. It I thought you might be interested
because if you have a look on the internet and

(01:49:28):
do a search on twenty seventeen helicopter crash, Horror or Inlet.
It was the helicopter that went down twenty seventeen and
crashed into the harbor and the pilot was very lucky
to get away. He was moving telegraph holes across the inlet,
and the CIA report determined that it was a your

(01:49:52):
factor that he didn't have enough height to control and
get out of and the thing went down and luckily
only into about two meters of water. But the helicopter
was written off and he was very lucky to only
get some superficial bruising and jarring. But there's some photos
on the stuff article you'll find on the web that
show it being salvage out of the harbor and it's

(01:50:15):
been He's got a hold of it to put it
on the lawn this year for Christmas, and I just
wanted to give him a special shout.

Speaker 2 (01:50:22):
Yeah, I'm look he's doing it. I'm looking at a
big chop. I'm looking on the Facebook page. He's got
his car across the road. I didn't even know there
was a JFK Drive. So that's exciting too for me
to know that.

Speaker 11 (01:50:36):
Yeah, well it's interesting because John F. Kennedy Drive. There
was a subdivision done in Barmston back in the seventies
and my mum actually bought a property as one of
the first ones in the road. It didn't used to
go all the way out to the western end that
used to have a stop off at the park. You'll
see there's a big park there on the southern side
of the western end. But then they opened it up

(01:50:57):
right through a few years later, and it's now quite
a heavy route for four lanes for big trucks, big
rigs that go around the north side of the city.
And there was a link to the airport out in
the northeast of the road goes right through to the
airport there now.

Speaker 2 (01:51:12):
So it was the suburb just being developed when JFK
was shot. Was that what happened?

Speaker 11 (01:51:17):
No, Well, the history behind it. Kazano Lanseva and I
grew up in Palms to North, and the history behind
the whole subdivision was it was quite a large farm
block that was developed in the seventies and a lot
of the streets got names like Apollo Parade and Gemini
Crescent and John F. Kennedy Drive and various things. I
think it was a Saturn way. It was actually following

(01:51:39):
on from the wave of enthusiasm for the American spost
program that was underway during the seventies, so they decided
to put a theme onto the road names and various things,
and that was part of its sort of marketing at
the time.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
And that probably would be that would be assisted by
the fate that was adjacent to the airport. I suppose
a bit of a theme there for that too.

Speaker 11 (01:52:00):
Ah, yes, yes, But anyway, that's the interesting thing for
tonight is that the helicopter the question the harbor has
suddenly turned up at the end of the road with
my mom's places, and the young fellow and his friends.
They've festumed the helicopter with lights and they've gone to
a hell of a lot of trouble. And as I said,

(01:52:20):
I think he told me tonight they've got a Facebook
page JFK Light is what it's called, and he's asked
if I could maybe give him some hand to put
some video and photos up for him in the next
couple of days while I'm here. But he's also raising money,
I think, through charity for various good causes around the
area through what they're doing with the Christmas lights. So

(01:52:41):
he deserves to shout out. And I thought you'd be
interested in the back story. It's not off and you
find a helicopter turn up from a crash that's on
the front lawn of the house at the end.

Speaker 2 (01:52:50):
Of your road, so extremely interesting story, David, I appreciate
that muchly. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Dave Marcus,
good evening. Hello, Sorry Dave. Bed button pushed from me,
Dave Marcus, welcome, good evening.

Speaker 10 (01:53:03):
Hello.

Speaker 9 (01:53:04):
Get a He've got a team delivery in yesterday. I've
got eighteen dollars Avy added sunglasses, six XL clothing and
five pairs of Marino Blend socks for eighteen dollars, which
I thought is a pretty good deal. And I swear
clothing and all that's a very good fit. Six XL

(01:53:26):
and several pairs of pants as well, for a quarter
of the price that.

Speaker 13 (01:53:30):
You pay normally.

Speaker 20 (01:53:31):
Now there's a gift this.

Speaker 9 (01:53:33):
You know, I'm into the landscapes and painting, but these
they're like in castin glass and sand and water, and
as the air bubbles discipline go up to the top,
it releases the sand down to the bottom.

Speaker 24 (01:53:51):
And try it a landscape.

Speaker 21 (01:53:53):
You know what?

Speaker 9 (01:53:54):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
They look great? Are they?

Speaker 19 (01:53:57):
Yes? Yes?

Speaker 9 (01:53:58):
And now I have seen them in shops. There are
several different sizes. I'd like a big one myself. Not
that I'm giving any hints out, but I thought an
ideal gift, even to a twenty three year old female.
And I think they're a damn good thing because every
time they you can turn them upside down and it

(01:54:19):
starts again, you understand.

Speaker 2 (01:54:21):
So what are they square around? What are they called
on the website?

Speaker 3 (01:54:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:54:26):
Square?

Speaker 7 (01:54:27):
And I don't know.

Speaker 9 (01:54:28):
I stumbled across the Marcus and I'm not sure what
they're called. And I'm still not sure, but you know
what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:54:37):
They're like, yeah, I certainly know what you're look talking about.

Speaker 9 (01:54:40):
Yeah, you can get different sized ones. The ones that
I've seen is about twelve inches across by say six
inches high, and but you can get bigger ones in
the shops and all and what have you.

Speaker 2 (01:54:56):
Yeah, I just I just called them a moving sand
art picture. That's what I'd call them.

Speaker 9 (01:55:02):
There you go.

Speaker 21 (01:55:03):
That's it.

Speaker 9 (01:55:03):
And as the team, who know, I swear the sizes
in my shirts, my sixty self clothing and all that
are good. And the socks they seem pretty good.

Speaker 11 (01:55:13):
I haven't really warn them yet, but.

Speaker 9 (01:55:14):
They seem all right. And so eighteen dollars for five
pairs of Marino Blend socks, well, I don't think it
can go wrong with eighteen dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:55:21):
Does it feel like Marino?

Speaker 19 (01:55:24):
Yes?

Speaker 24 (01:55:24):
It does.

Speaker 9 (01:55:25):
Yeah, it's only it says it's about I think about
thirty percent Marino and the rest is like a Nylon e.

Speaker 19 (01:55:33):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:55:34):
But at least there's woolen there, Marcus.

Speaker 13 (01:55:36):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:55:37):
You have a good weekend, Dave, nice to talk to you.
I know what you're saying. At least there's woolen there
in your socks. Thank you, Dave. And that, my friends,
is another week, another week on the radio.

Speaker 1 (01:55:51):
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