Noodle price check (26 February 2025)

Marcus talks about how terrible the Hamilton fountain is and why, of all the solutions to retail crime, citizen's arrests is the dumbest.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from News
Talks at be.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Greetings, Welcome, How are am I? Nas? Marcus eight eight?
I hope it's good will you are?

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
What tap Minghamilton? They're all washing in the town fountain.
Sounds like something from a Brugal painting. Have I got
the right art metaphor? I've got the right art analogy.
I think I probably have garden places people washing in
the fountain, and the water is recycled. It's not like

(00:40):
fresh and new water. Every time it goes around it,
it's regurgitated. I imagine this place is right around the country.
There's people washing in the fountain, palling anyway. That's it.
And now we can arrest people too. Where do you
think the first citizens arrest is going to be? And

(01:02):
according to Ryan, you can tie them up for goodness sake?
I imagine that's going to go about as well as you
could think, which is not very well at all. There
will be village vigilantes with ropes wandering around waiting to

(01:24):
find people and apprehend them and restrain them. Anyway, watch
the space. It might make for good talk back. How
are you're going anyway? People Marcus is my name? Hurdle
midnight tonight. You want to Here's something I'm wondering about dentists.
Every time I flosp my teeth, I think, what's it

(01:45):
like being a dentist. You must spend your whole life
being worried about your hands. Like you wouldn't want to
go gardening or build stuff with a hammer and nails,
would you, because you'd be terrified you're going to bang
your fingers. If you're bang your fingers, you couldn't. All
that fiddly work inside people's mouths must be a life
sentence to being a dentist. Soon as you got to sew,

(02:06):
you'd be out of action. Often think about that because
you do nothing. You couldn't play golf, you couldn't do anything.
You couldn't make furniture, you couldn't play pickleball. What could
you do? Be so worried about your hands, those tiny,
little dexterous fingers you put inside people's mouths. Anyway, I

(02:27):
spend more time than you think I would spend thinking
about that. For all those people that want the song
of me singing Jennifer Rush my impersonation, I will play
that sometime tonight because that was pretty good. That was better.
That's my voice singing Jennifer Rush if you missed it
last out at the end of the show, something very
very special. So yes, someone has kindly put that together

(02:51):
for me. Enough said about that, but that will happen
tonight at some stage within the next four hours. Anyone
out there on a zenpic for weight loss? Always curious
about that just out of the I don't think. I
think it's quite hard to get news. Anybody just put
that out there. Seems to be every newspaper's headline is

(03:14):
all about a zempic. There is another one with a
different name for it, but I forget what that's called.
These are the weight loss drugs that turn off part
of the brain, the craving part of the brain. They'll
be coming here soon. All the Hollywood stars are on it.

(03:34):
That's what's gonna happen at the Oscar zempic anyway. We
go Vy's the other name for it, which sounds like
a video game, doesn't it we govy. It doesn't sound
It sounds more like an online retailer, doesn't it a
we govy?

Speaker 4 (03:50):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Then nice shoes, whe'd you get them? We govy anyway,
I've got about four topics tonight, so we'll bounce around
like it. I think it's gonna be one of those
bouncing around kind of a night tonight. We'll talk fountains,
because no fountains are good. Counsels hate them, people hate them,
They get full of leaves, and now because of the

(04:13):
disparity of this country, people are bathing in them for
goodness sake. I've had a poor understanding of fountains ever
since I fell in that one in Ashburton. Still can't
quite work out what happened. Then sometimes I think I
should go and get the some of the video cameras,

(04:33):
some of the CCTV footage to see just what happened
middle of the day playing where the kids fell in
the fountain. So yes, ash Burton found in big thumbs
down for me. But most fountains terrible. People chuck foam
and then they're green. They're not exciting. I don't know
what the worst one would be. There used to be
a good one in Auckland outside the Art Gallery because

(04:55):
it had a good flow. It was a real fountain,
and I'm not quite sure. If I'm pretty sure it's gone,
it mightn't have gone it might have been compromised anyway.
So here's a question to start off with too for
you tonight after the great success of the topic. Are

(05:17):
they more wheels than doors in the world. I don't
have a slight inspiration that's coming to me. Here's a
straightforward question for you, right, and I wouldn't mind your
answer to this and your reasoning in New Zealand? Would
there be more people or traffic cones? Because everyone goes

(05:39):
on and on about traffic cones endlesser traffic code? I
wish she isn't How many would there be in the country?
Would there be more than people? How would you find
that out? So what do you reckon and use any
with there more traffic cones or more people? There must
be warehouses full of them. If you got some information

(05:59):
about that, get in touch with me all. I just
be curious about your thinking around that. I don't know
which way to go on that one. I would imagine
like a place the size of Invicago. You don't. I
don't know which you'd be more. I imagine this at
least a million traffic cones in the country. Would I

(06:20):
be right? Get in touch. Marcus Till twelve oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty nine nine two detect if
something's taking your fancy topic wife fountains and traffic cones.
I see too plenty of traction for the Hosking interview
with Luxon and the social media today. I don't think

(06:40):
that would have been on many people's Christmas predictions that
Hosking would be involved in the undoing of Luxen. But
there you have it, because he wouldn't answer the question,
just went into words salads anyway. You might want to
mention that also much discussion about that, Marcus. I don't
think there are warehouses full of traffic cones because they're

(07:02):
all on the bloody roads. You're probably right, Marcus. I
gave my son, who was twenty container, a foaming agent
that helped clean the milking machines. He poured into their
Spurton fountain on the main street. By the time they
woke up in the morning, was all the way down
the road, backed ab outside the Farmer's Trading company. A

(07:23):
lot of cry babies complained about the poor pump and
the founder, but the kids loved it. Marcus. The only
good fountain is a fondue fountain. Yeah, that's not a
bad point. Actually, have you seen that guy on the
internet that put cheese in the chocolate fountain? Wasn't good? Marcus?

(07:46):
You can get sex inder, which is kind of similar
to his impic. I struggled to lose weight for twelve years.
I've taken the lotos for a year and have lost
sixteen kilograms and kept it off best shape in my life.
You do need to have good healthy habits while taking it.
Do we applaud weight loss anyway? Get in touched by

(08:13):
nams Marcus foding past eight Andrew, Welcome evening, Andrew.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
He just on fountains. I think we need to get
a bit more creative with fountains. Yes.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
Go.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
The Italians have got the idea that VOLI.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
I don't know about that. People people rave about it,
don't they.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Well, I'm not sure what sort of you know. It's
a nice looking fountain, but they've sold the idea that
tourists literally walk up to a piece of infrastructure and
throw money at it.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
It's the idea, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (08:48):
You don't have to sell them tickets, you don't have
to run buses there, you don't have to produce brochures.
People literally tune up into the city and throw money
at the fountain. So we need to be sort of
pressing the idea that you know, this fountain here is
pretty special and you know you might get a special worship.
You choke fifty bucks at it.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Now, I would just correct you, and I think it's
not the Tavoli fountain. I think it's the Trevy fountain.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
Oh sorry, sorry, the Trevy. I'm at the dog park.
I'm elsewhere.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
I don't know what Tivoli is, but I think it
sounds like it sounds Italian, doesn't it.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
It's a theater, that's what it is. It's actually an
old theater in christ Us. I'm getting my wires crushed.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
How's the dog a Privy fountain?

Speaker 4 (09:32):
How's literally? Yeah? Nice and quiet, beautiful night in christ
It's a blue Dome day.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yeah, I love a blue Dame day. Okay, nice to have.
Did you enjoy Electric Head you go?

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Did you see did you see the new led Zeppelin movie?

Speaker 6 (09:47):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (09:47):
I loved it, absolutely loved it. I'll tell you what
happened again. I was tramping with my boy in Tiano
and we climbed up to Lake Marion. Oh that was
the next day. But we went to a session at
eight o'clock and he's ten, and by about half past
ten there was an intermission. He said, let's go. So
I missed the last twenty minutes. I loved it, absolutely
loved it.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
It's stunning. It was absolutely stunning.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
And Jimmy, Jimmy Page seems to be over his old
Satanism thing. He seemed all right.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
I think he's drawing a line under that.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
And what was interesting is how impressed they were by
Lonnie Donegan, because I always thought a skiffle band was good.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Well, that was the impetus it was. Yeah, it was
all three war you know, he couldn't buy in orange,
couldn't buy grape, and all of a suddenly there's old
Lonnie Donning and giving it a bit of on the second.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
That's that's what they wanted. Just but what a skiffle
It's like a washboard.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yeah, they used washboards and the old teacher's faces.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
And anyway, anyway, did it have the shot of them
in their special plane. Because I missed the last half hour,
I'm not quite sure if I'll go to the theater just
for the last half hour.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Now. Of course, the whole movie, of course, was about
the first two elves, so they didn't really they did
sort of delve into any anything past that one too.
The movie finished basically when they knocked me off number
one I think was aby Road, and knocked them off
the Beatles, off the number one perch all around the world,
and that was it. They never looked back.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Really nice to talk and thank you so much for
it and sending to see in the news yesterday that
Phil Collins has done us back and by drumming he
can hardly walk. Marcus, you stunned me last night. Why
don't you become the first of your own special show
and do your own theme? Please play it again? This
was me singing. This was me singing the power of

(11:41):
love for those Do you want to give play a
start of it? Can you give them the first few
lines of it? Dan, just to give them what they
missed out on.

Speaker 7 (11:49):
The whispers in the morning. My love is sneaky bed
over rolling by liked.

Speaker 8 (12:06):
No.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I can about more than that dender.

Speaker 7 (12:16):
I balls on to your barday and feel each move
you may.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Your voice says a warming tender a lot that I
not voice, cause iamy on, it's not good singing. I
am your lady, but that's all right, that's fine. You're

(12:52):
gonna be careful to stone age, don't you. Anyway? Fountains,
we are talking dentists in their hands and traffic cones.
Would there be more cones than people in New Zealand?
By the way, a lot of hype for the new
peck and Save. Why would anyone ever get hyped about
a new peck and Save. It's a bear bone shopping

(13:13):
experience at the best of times, particularly in a quake city.
I'm always worried that those things are going to fall
from the giant's shelves onto you. Anyway, Marcus, there was
an article I can't lay my hands on saying there
were more than a million cones and use in Auckland alone.
So are there more cones? Or people? Get in touch?

(13:39):
By name's Marcus, welcome headt twelve o'clock. Marcus. Can you
please ask the listers if anyone has seen an emo
in the National Park STATEHWA for about twenty k's of
north of o'cooney, So someone seen an emu?

Speaker 6 (13:56):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
And fountains. I think we've got too many topics all
out there. Anyway, I'll keep you updated. So which would
be more traffic cones or fountains and what was the
other topic. I can't remember, so oh, fountains, traffic cones
or people and now they're bathing in fountains. I think
there was a time when people were crazy for fountains,

(14:24):
and I think councils hate them because they're not idiot
proof and they clog up with leaves and most of
the time they don't function or run as well as
they did when they were first unveiled. So yeah, I'm
not particularly I like the bucket fountain, but who does
it because it's kind of clumsy and hopeless. I don't

(14:46):
know who's got the Yeah, I don't know where the
best fountain. I don't know any of these in as
are particularly passionate about the apart from the bucket fountain.
But ever you call it a fountain, would you? That's
more like a would you call it a fountain, It's
more a gravity feed situation. This is the one in
Cuba Street. I like it greatly, but I wouldn't call
it a fountain. I'd call it a water sculpture. Well

(15:09):
that's a gray area, isn't it. The water sculpture twenty
six Mary Marcus welcome.

Speaker 9 (15:15):
Yes, Hi, I'm sorry. I'm not ringing about the subjects
that you're already speaking about this night.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
That'll be a surprise, Mary, because no one's on topic
these days. No one can keep a string or a
trend going. A couple of nights ago we talked about
Sky TV, and you're having.

Speaker 9 (15:31):
Trouble right exactly, And as soon as it starts to rain.
What I'm wanting to know is that Sky's responsibility to
six the dish or is it our responsibility?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Who knows? Mary?

Speaker 4 (15:52):
Mary?

Speaker 10 (15:53):
Mary?

Speaker 2 (15:54):
You know how it's called satellite TV. Yes, the signal
for your TV comes from a satellite. Yes, And that
the satellite is running out of steam and slowly falling
to Earth.

Speaker 9 (16:11):
Yes, I've already read that, Yes I have.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
And as a result, your reception gets poorer and poorer. Okay, right,
And I don't know what you're supposed to do with that,
because I presume your rural.

Speaker 9 (16:25):
While we're in Central Hawk space we call that rural yep.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
So I mean, who knows? Because they got rid of
all their technicians and now Downer has the contract to
do the technicians, but there aren't many of them that
don't tune up fairly quickly. Have you rung Sky itself?

Speaker 9 (16:42):
No, I haven't because I couldn't find a number to
wring them.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Oh okay, can you give her a number? Then it's
a number in the Philippines. It's not an nine number.
It's an eight hundred number. Now, and you stay on
a hold for a long time. I've hadn't got anything
against the Philippines because everyone's going to make money. But
but yeah, they're not that helpful.

Speaker 9 (17:04):
No okay, Oh well, I'll try the one hundred number
and see how I get on. But I just thought,
is it my responsibility to have that folks store looked at?
Or is it Sky?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
That seems to be a gray zone. You can say
things like I'm going to cancel my subscription and then
they might help you out, or yes, yeah, I don't know,
but it's no good if no one turns up.

Speaker 9 (17:26):
No, no, exactly, all right, Hey, things for help with
someone else? One of the other listeners might sort of
know a little bit more about it.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Oh, got on you for clot cavising for calls. It's excellent, Mary.
There is a Facebook cat page too. I have the
marine traffic gap. Can't see the Chinese warships and the
Tasman are they're still there. There's south of Tezzi turned
eighty one mile south of Tasmania. There's a new submarine

(17:55):
perhaps underneath Get in touch one, Ms Marcus, welcome talking
about Sky. Thanks to the all the support for my
singing career. It's not quite as clever as you'd think,
but sounds good.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
The way.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
To an album like Homesy Mark is the homeless wash
in the water sculpture in High Street leaves rubbish and
cigy butts included. Over Where is the fountain in High Street?
Is that underneath the soldier? Is that underneath Freyburg and
Fryburg Square? I don't know if they do it in

(18:43):
the Trevy Fountain. I guess it's probably well policed. Of course,
I saw that in Emily and Paris when they went
to well now demly in Italy. I think it's all changed.
What a great show we are talking fountains, traffic, cones.
Would there be more than five million in this country?

(19:03):
And Sky? I'm too confused with Sky. I do tend
to get great zone out when people talk about Sky.
What's what? I think she's in white Pukado? What she's
supposed to do that woman because she probably got the
husband going on about the rugby. It's got rain. I mean,
who knows what's going on the private health they're living

(19:24):
without the sky dish working. I don't think rain fade
used to be when it's raining. Now it happens all
the time. It's misnamed as rain fade. It's just general
anything fade. Yeah, anyway, where do you think the first
citizens arrest will be? I'll tell you what I mean.

(19:48):
It's going to be a disaster.

Speaker 11 (19:49):
You can.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
When you can put a line under that now and
it'll be revoked. I don't even know if it will
become law. I think the cops are against it. They
think it's a terrible idea. Mind you, there's less of
those high rose Marcus.

Speaker 12 (20:03):
Welcome, Oh Marcus, busy writing everything down right?

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Good God, you write your topics down.

Speaker 12 (20:13):
What I'm talking to you about?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yes, oh, I should do that.

Speaker 12 (20:18):
Funny, you're funny now. I think that the first arrest
will be in Auckland, and I think that nothing will
stop until somebody's fatally hurt. That's what I think.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Well, what happens like in that subway, in that train
in America, someone held someone down to restrain them. Next thing,
you know, they stop breathing.

Speaker 12 (20:41):
Yes, well, yes, either way somebody will bring out a
gun and that's that.

Speaker 5 (20:46):
There's no no.

Speaker 13 (20:48):
I think that.

Speaker 12 (20:49):
Yes, in the hands, you know, the Hattens things. I've
always thought that about surgeons, about putting you.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Well, I think you've probably got more freeway as a
surgeon than a dentist and that tiny little mouth doing
everything in there. Of course it must be hard.

Speaker 12 (21:07):
Yeah, but I would imagine a student couldn't hmmer and
now in case he hit his finger or his hands
or they must be worth millions.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
You're probably right, You're probably right.

Speaker 12 (21:18):
Oh, I thinks it's been coming from you, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Although it's topic creep. I was talking Daners and something.
They were talking surgeons and all manner of things. So
suddenly now the topics will spread out everywhere, isn't it anyway?

Speaker 6 (21:32):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Okay, fair enough, yep.

Speaker 12 (21:34):
I apologize.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
That's right.

Speaker 12 (21:38):
Cones in New Zealand differently, no more cones than people.
I think there's way more people than.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
How many perfect cones would they be?

Speaker 12 (21:46):
Oh, marcu.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Gpt would you then on it?

Speaker 5 (21:52):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (21:53):
Good man, good man, dan foun Jim I think they're
really ugly actually, and Judy.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Well, it just covered and leaves and it sort of
gets green. And I don't I think probably in this
country nature provide such great waterfalls and water features. We
don't really need man made ones or people made ones.

Speaker 12 (22:12):
So with you there, we've got a beautiful one and
gives it. It's rock slides.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Oh they go, what do they go down there on themselves?
Will they have a bit of a thing.

Speaker 12 (22:22):
Well, they sometimes, if they're brave enough, they go down
just their togs, bums first on the rocks, or sometimes
the good ones go down on their feet.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
When did they first start doing that? Oh?

Speaker 12 (22:36):
I have to say that the Mouldies should probably been
doing it for a long time.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Ah, the Moldy think you rose a very good text
to you. The first citizens arrest will be a pitch invader. Yeah,
you're probably not wrong there, although the crowd seem to
like a pitch invader. What about those literary festivals and

(23:01):
people ask long winded statements as questions? Or you couldn't
really arrest them, they could not break it. You've got
to actually breaking the law to arrest them. Oh, he's
Cedric with a text from last century, Marcus, it's time
to bring back military service for both Australia and New Zealand,
even only for three months. I'm still predicting China will

(23:26):
invade Taiwan this year. They may decide to invade Tasmania
for practice. Re Mary Sky comments. No one seems to
have picked up on the simple fact that if Sky
either puts up a new satellite or switches to a
different pre existing one, every dish in the country will
need to be redirected. Everyone. Marcus, the first citizens arrest

(23:51):
will be outside of Kmart, that's for sure. You might
be wrong. What would it be as behavior particularly bad
at Kmart? He might be right there. I'm just trying
to think where I'd see people actually having a citizen
to arrest. Where I'd be most likely citizens arrest someone.

(24:15):
I thought it might be like a kid's sports feature. Marcus,
do you think security guards will be more effective now
they can make citizens arrests? They probably couldn't be bothered
with the paperwork I apparently came out. It's got a
lot of shoplifting. Who knew I thought you had to

(24:38):
show your docket on the way out. That's quite interesting.
Determining the exact number of road cones in New Zealand
is challenging due to the lack of centralized data. As estimated,
there are fifty to one hundred million traffic cones in

(24:58):
United States at any given time, really one hundred million.
That's one for every three persons. Specific out on the
number of road cones in New Zealand is not readily available.
Whever the country has a high capital usage of road
cones fifty thousand imported annually. We might make our own,

(25:20):
though would we. Global figures aren't available. Some estimates suggest
they are approximate one hundred and thirty million traffic cones
and use worldwide. Then it goes a little bit lux
and these figures highlight the significant role that traffic cones
plan road safety and traffic management across various regions. Marcus.

(25:45):
They are not forcing people to make citizens arrests, just
removing the risk of being prosecuted if you arrest. Summer
between six and nine is steading less than a thousand
of your property, Marcus. The supermarket should have a car
following offender's home and then invite themselves in. It's all

(26:11):
happening twenty three away from nine, good and bad fountains.
And it's quite hard for cities to get rid of fountains,
isn't it when don't they all happen? I feel in
the sixties we got rid of all the clock towers
because of quakes, and we put in pools and fountains,
did we. It's kind of an English thing, isn't think
I'll make it a bit like England. Put in a fountain.

(26:33):
I like the one at Mission Bay. It's kind of
attractive that one. I think there's one at Albert Park.
I don't know that one so much. Anyway, twenty two
away from nine Marcus till twelve more traffic cones or
people in New Zealand. There must be about a million here,
I reckon probably check GPT would be about right on

(26:53):
that one. If you got breaking news, breaking news, bring
that through. Oh by the way, Luxon has commented on
the interview with Hosking the priv this is just on
the Herald of eight thirty two. The Prime Minister admitted

(27:13):
he doesn't get communication with media ride all the time.
Following interview with new Talks to be Mike Hoskin. That's
been labeled fascicle. Sorry, he said, a comment on that
speaking to Medium Media and Vietnam. When asked about the interview,

(27:35):
lux and said, maybe I could have got to a
yes much quicker gee, no kidding to the supposition as
there's more people than cones, but about a million cone
seems to be common consensus. Thank you for that. Fountains.
No one's got a fountain that they love. The trouble
with Hamilton is that what is that garden square? Is

(28:00):
that just an old building they knocked out and put
some stuff in there. It always seems kind of unresolved.
I reckon the problem is not so much the fountain
and people washing in it, but they need to get
the square. It needs to have more point to it.
Every time up into that square, I've wondered what the
point of it was. Maybe someone could enlighten me. It

(28:23):
always seems to be kind of like it. It feels
like a planning mistake. I was there recently on the
bus trip, wandering through the square. I was surprised how
much retail Hamilton's come along, But it wasn't the most
reassuring experience. Just what it felt like. I was wandering, well,

(28:44):
I don't quite quite know what was going on with
mauls and back. Yeah, it seemed to be a straight Yeah.
I'll think more about what I want to say about that,
but that square is terrible. Anyway, do get in touch.
You want to speak on eight hundred and eighty today?
And where do you think the first citizens arrests will be?

(29:04):
I think it all came after that end guy try
to tackle someone in a supermarket. He'd been living in
Fiji and back and he tried to be the hero
and realized he was out a step. And there's a
bit of a outcry on social and now they've gone
and said, okay, you can arrest people, but it won't
go well. And because the sort of people that will

(29:26):
want to arrest people will be the sort of people
to be wandering around looking for people to arrest, vigilantes
and as we know about those people, more often and
not they get it wrong, They see things wrongly. We
have a lovely fountain of marine paraded Nape you. Thank you.

(29:47):
Stratford still has its famous glock and spilled clock tower.
Not a fountain, though, is it, Marcus? Where could you
find out how many roundabouts there are across the country,
including the outer Islands from Great Barrier Wahiki Chathams and
Stewart roundabout some Wayhiki, it's what a know there's a

(30:11):
roundabout there? How many roundabouts would there be? Dan check check.
They won't know, will they, because they can't go to
a map. They've just got to go to articles they've
already been there. We'll find out it could be of interest.
It's a really good question. I'd love to have a
roundabout discussion. I was driving to work coming around the
roundabout and thinking are we ready for another roundabout discussion?

(30:32):
Have people actually learned that you don't indicate twice when
you're going straight through, but you still have to indicate
coming off. Do people know that when you're going right
you indicate right then left? Even I forget about that
sometimes particular ate at night. As long as it's not

(30:54):
police cars around, I just go straight through. No, I don't, really,
I don't. It depends. I don't want to be a bragger.
By the way, this will come as a shock to
your total on one hundred and ninety Roundabouts one hundred
and ninety Hamilton, one hundred and thirty six. Mike, it's Marcus.

(31:15):
Greetings and welcome evening now.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
I am I Marcus.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Make good things, Mike.

Speaker 14 (31:23):
The fountain Hilton, I mean, does it get any better
than that?

Speaker 15 (31:27):
I mean internationally renowned almost to Hamilton Gardens.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Well, Hamilton Gardens people are raving about, but the fountains
kind of yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 16 (31:38):
Really, Well, you're going to find something to do with Hamilton,
and that's probably a second place.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
But would you even would you call garden place the
town square? It just seems to be to me to
be a place where they couldn't sell the land or something.

Speaker 17 (32:01):
I think you'll find maybe it takes a change since
we've got to be the base up northern downtown.

Speaker 15 (32:08):
The back of the day it was, it was a
hub of activity.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Okay, we'll talk more about that. Because I've always thought
it's a dud voice. I like Hamilton. I've always thought
that town square was just terrible. It's the worst town
square in the country. The weird thing is I kind
of get a proper look at it. None of the
photos serve me. DJ Jeff Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Here.

Speaker 13 (32:32):
Talking about fountains. The most beautiful fountain I've ever seen
was in King's Cross in Australia.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Wow, it was the light.

Speaker 13 (32:43):
When the lights come on and the colors come through
the fountain and it's flowing water up. I've never seen
a fountain like that ever in my life.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
What's it called. What's it called, Jeff, It's got a
famous name that film.

Speaker 13 (33:02):
It's just on the top of the King's Cross here.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
What's it called. It's a war memorial, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (33:10):
Ah, There is a particular name, but I can't remember
what the name was. It was a long time ago
since I saw it, but I was. I was walking
through the cross there one night and those things started
up and I was just absolutely amazed with some beautiful
lights and the water sprousing up. Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
It's called it's called the l Alamine Memorial Fountain commemorated
the Battle of l Alamaye during World War Two. Just then,
you know, fire fighters are working with rescue equipment to
extricate a person from a crashed aircraft at Tottonga Airport.
Fire an emergency. He's in a Northland Northern Ship Manager
rad And said the service were notified at seven forty

(33:56):
five of the light aircrash craft light aircraft crash. There
is one person currently trapped in the aircraft. I'll bring
you updates for that Peter Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Yeah, I'm ringing from the Mighty Hamilton. Kay, you're way
out of touch with this fountain. That Garden Place would
be the oldest square in one of the oldest squares
in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
But that doesn't make it originally a car park exactly right?

Speaker 5 (34:27):
And what did it have in it?

Speaker 3 (34:29):
Because and everybody gets it there it was one of
the longest running pie carts in New Zealand.

Speaker 18 (34:38):
There.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
That fountain has got holes and it's we thought the
water that runs out of its probably said your forty holes.
It goes back and comes back out again. Sounds our.
Numerous councils have ruined the Garden Place by the big
including the President and me and now hand council. They

(35:02):
think they know better and don't listen. Because I've been
in this town seventy years.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
You're begetting to hang out.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
I've seen seen the township ruined by president, mayor, the
mayor and numerous mess.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Peter, can you just listen to me? Does the fountain
heaven ech? No, Well, so it's just holes in the
ground with water coming out.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Yeah, Well it's tiles, specially shoot the special shoots and
it's like you see the top of them is like
a copper pipe, but it's at level at the ground.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
Sounds like a lazy option.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Okay, well it was the way they designed it there
and you cancelors have ruined the city.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
But you were on and over.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Did you see that? It was in the front page
news in the Working of Times, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (36:05):
You guys are excited about that, though, are you?

Speaker 19 (36:08):
No?

Speaker 2 (36:08):
No, no, But it happens in the summer, It happens
in It just looks like an uninviting puddle. It looks terrible.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
I've seen with.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
Yeah, they should have opened the river more the city
more to the river. That's the that's the heartbreaking thing.
You go there and you not know you're on the river.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, well I don't agree with that. The comment.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
You don't agree with it. It's fact.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
No, it's not fact at all.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
It is the city is to their beck on the river.
They haven't they have Can you can you can you
see the river from the Can you see the river
from the main street?

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Yes, you can as you walk down and a gap
and have a look. Do your research, Marcus, your research.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
I'm all about. All I do is research.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Well, you're not very well informed. They've been opening the
river the city that for ten years.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
I should have started that fifty years ago. I should
have it.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
You're talking for a hole in it now, Well.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
You agree with me, No, I don't you do everything
you said? You're agreeing with me.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
No, I don't believe they should be spending the money
that they are spending on it.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Well, if you don't spend the money, no one I
want to live there. You have old people, have old
people stuck there.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
Hang on, it's the fastest growing city in New Zealand.

Speaker 20 (37:34):
Did you know that?

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah? Were you that went? Well, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
If it.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Don't say people don't want to live here.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
You know, I lived on a farm.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Of course there was no farms.

Speaker 18 (37:47):
I'm seventy.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
You said older. You should say that.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Sixty five years ago. Now what what was our farm?
One of the biggest farms in the whiteout? I do
these breeders in the workout in their houses?

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Didn't they flood? Did they flood your town?

Speaker 21 (38:05):
No?

Speaker 3 (38:06):
No, okay, we don't get floods in this city.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Do you go to the square match?

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Yeah, that was there today doing what.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
I walked through it today into the casino of course
you did.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Did you ever collect?

Speaker 4 (38:22):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (38:23):
And then how much?

Speaker 18 (38:26):
I can't tell you that.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Did you put a bit? Why not? Because you put it? Oh,
because you put it before? You put it back in though,
didn't you, Peter.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
No, I didn't go three three hundred and sixty eighth week.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah, bet you put it back in tomorrow. That's how
gambling works, doesn't it.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
Oh, I won't be there tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Brilliant, that's the spirit. I don't know if this is
common knowledge, but I'm still reeling from this total on
at one hundred and ninety roundabouts. It's a lot, isn't it?
One hundred and ninety. I'd like to see a chart

(39:04):
of roundabout you anyway? And they're a good thing. I
guess they're cheap and they manage traffic. That's a lot. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty tendy and nineteen nine to the
text one as Marcus welcome, he'll twelve. What have you

(39:24):
got here for? If you went to the new pack
and save? How was that? Brian Marcus welcome?

Speaker 22 (39:30):
Gooy Marcus uh greetings and happy new year.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Thank you Brian, the same to you too.

Speaker 22 (39:38):
Thank you so far it's going okay. I'm loving this
warm stretch of weather up here in the northern part
of the North Island.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Are you in Hamilton, Hey, yeah?

Speaker 22 (39:48):
Well no, no, no, no, A little bit north of Hamilton.
I'm originally Hamiltonian, and I grew up there and in
the nineteen fifties and so on, and I just want
to have a word about Garden Place, so you know
who'd you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Please, thank you.

Speaker 22 (40:05):
It's a look at It's a fawny issue down there
and one of much debate. Now I'm not living in
Hamilton at the moment, but I had a business in
the main street for ten years and grew up there,
so I think I'm qualified to talk about it. Garden
Place was once the center of town, and it was
a really happening little area talking about nineteen sixties, mid

(40:29):
sixties and up until about the nineteen seventies, and Garden
Place had I think it was around about three hundred
and fifty or four hundred car parks in that garden
square as you call it. Yes, and around the perimeter

(40:49):
of Garden Place were a variety of shops, including big
ones like Woolworths and La Gloria Fashions and all sorts
of ones I remember, and the Buses Buses Limited, who
ran a fleet of blue buses big passenger. That was
their center of the universe. So if you got a

(41:11):
quarter a bus from out of Hamilton into the city,
you would end up in Garden Place, and because it
was the center of shopping and the buses circulated there
around there all day long. The present Casino was the
chief post office, so everyone was going there, and the
Regent Picture Theater was located nearby, so it's another attraction.

(41:34):
So you can see that there was a lot of
business activity and a lot of people going to and
pro and it was a really really busy place, and
it had atmosphere despite all being cars, you know, but
cars bring people into town and Tatum Way again, so
you had this flow and it was I like to say,
it was a really busy place. Now, what happened next

(41:59):
was that the first mall came to Hamilton. I just
forget the name of it, but it was a mall
that was a block away and suddenly everybody loved the
moll and the mall was you know, when malls were
started to come in had car.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Parking as well, didn't they say park under it'll.

Speaker 23 (42:18):
Be there here.

Speaker 4 (42:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (42:20):
Yeah, And so the mall ultimately had the effect on
a lot of the small shops in Hamilton closing down
over a period of a long time. But ultimately a
lot of the retail that was in the North End
and the South End, the north and south of Garden Place,
they just dried up and those shops closed.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
And by the time the.

Speaker 22 (42:43):
General Financial you know, the world GFC came along in
eight late eighties, that was the crunchet and the south
end particularly turned into a tumbleweeds and hardly anything happened.
So the South end survived mainly on eather reas and
bars because retail. Retail was no good and it's still

(43:06):
to this day. And I want to say you're dead
right with your comments about Garden Place. Let me say this.
I don't care who I offend. Garden Place is a
complete fowl up and it is a windswept, desolate piece
of grass that nobody wants to go there, particularly winter
because it's shadowed and it's cold, and in summer it's

(43:29):
just a blank space. Tell me, why did the council
think that putting a quiet zone, a peaceful area in
the middle of a city it's going to work. People
are an interested, they're working five days a week, and
at that day time.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
I'm also thinking as someone who's a visitor to Hamilton.
I'm looking at it from Google Maps. Now you can
be up and down the mainstream. And the last time
we got there was on the bus and then we
walked down to the square and as were the kids.
But you're also thirty meters from the river, and you've
got no idea the river is just there because you
can't see it or even sense it, you know, which

(44:09):
would seem to be the logical place to gravitate the wards,
wouldn't it, and the have yourself a drink on the
on the on the waterfront. But yeah, I just can't
work it out.

Speaker 22 (44:21):
The one of the criticisms that goes back a long
way about the river is that the city's found as
the forefathers of the city, turned their back on the
river and they established Victoria Street as the main in
the main main street, and they instead of what they
should have done was put the shops facing the river's edge,

(44:41):
absolutely the western bank, but it was never done, and
so the rear the river just became ignored.

Speaker 4 (44:47):
But it is a beautiful river.

Speaker 22 (44:49):
The there are river walks there on both sides, but no,
the tourists wouldn't know they're there. And then they lost
the paddle steamer boat which used to go up and
down as far as sort of Cambridge that because it
was just hmmm.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
And also two of these discussions that councils need to
have because Dunedin they're always decided they weren't going to
have malls because it would destroy the city. And they
kept with that for a long long time because they
wanted George Street to be a busy place. There were
no walls apart from one there and they did that
quite and that was quite successful. But now there are
those big kind of box retailers are opening up in

(45:29):
South and Eedland. That's kind of all the retailers seem
to be going to those. So eventually, eventually retailers do
what well, consumers do what they want to do, which
is drive to big shops and shop there without having
to wander. So I think Dunedin's also lost the battle.

Speaker 22 (45:46):
And Hamilton a lot of the big major retailers like
Farmers and Kamar have moved to the secondary streets. Yes,
so none of those big names are in the main street.
Now they gravitated one street over. But Hamilton's only ever
had one main street and that's Victoria. And you know,

(46:07):
if you're elsewhere, well, those people don't go near Victoria anymore.
So I would like to see. I'm going to say here,
bring back the car parks, bring back the buses to
the center of the street. I find you think you'll
find that the retail will follow because people are precurring today,
I guess, sort of going back to specialty shops and

(46:31):
not just malls all the time. But they absolutely, Man,
I just feel I want to bang their heads together
down there.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
And because people are so not into council's funding now,
I guess the chance to do something bold and move
it to the river, there's probably no appetite for that
because everyone's pitching pennies when it comes to local government,
so there's probably not the appetite to make it better.

Speaker 22 (46:53):
Yeah, I say just this while I got you there.
My view of Hamilton now, it is a great city
and there's got a lot of attractions there, but I
sort of view the city council the governing of Hamilton.
It's being done by itinerant people. Career people moving to Hamilton.
They may spend five or six years there, they do

(47:15):
their damage while they're there, and then they.

Speaker 10 (47:17):
Move on.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
This.

Speaker 22 (47:19):
You know, it seems to be that way. There's no
consistency in the council. And I also learned when I
was there, and this is a hot potato, and you
might want to put your finger on the dump button
if you don't like this. But I feel that city
is run by a clique of powerful businessman. I'm not

(47:42):
going to mention any numbers, names or anything like that,
but I think that the genders are set in place
with corridor politics in the council and people just don't
get you know, they can say what they want, but
it's not going to happen, and so that changes down there.
I think the city is suffering so badly with that
main street just being let go.

Speaker 18 (48:03):
You know.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Yeah, okay, nice to hear from you, bride. We'll keep
it going there. We only talk about garden Place, that
terrible waterfall or founder they need to get rid of.
That's my take. Do something proper with them. We'll actually
get rid of that park or square whatever it's called.
Oh Wa eight hundred and eighty tenty and nineteen ninet
text my name is Marcus Hddle twelve. Looking forward to
your comments. Also traffic cones, so yeah, let's be hearing

(48:30):
from you. Anything else you want to talk about? Also
and roundabouts total on or one hundred and eighty or
one hundred and ninety Marcus. Was a fountain of the
Screw in Palmerston, North that was built to commemorate the
coronation of Edward the seventh. Was he a goodie? Oh Marcus,

(48:56):
thank you for playing a snippet of your singing The
Power of Love. I'm gutted that I missed it on
hearing it last night. I would listen to midnight to
hopefully hear it its entirety. You have a beautiful voice. Wow,
there's some tricks and mirrors with that one, Marcus. The
Memorial Park tong A fountain is still there, but it's

(49:16):
undergoing a safety upgrade. Oh of course, a four year
old fairly drowned in twenty twenty three. That's the other
thing too, although no one's going to drown in that one.
And toto on because it's the water doesn't hold it
just specially around little puddle. Marcus. The bucket fountain has
to be one of, if not the most iconic fountain
in the country. It's been through many repaint and repairs

(49:37):
and seems to hold a charm despite the wet and
slippery pavement around it. Yes, people love the bucket foundin
because it's so hopeless. Sometimes the buckets tips, sometimes they don't.
Sometimes it blows, it doesn't go into the base. Sometimes
there's drunken people hanging from it. It's fantastic. I wouldn't
call it a fountain. I'd call it a water feature.

(50:00):
I think a fountain's gonna have water starting from the
bottom and going up, which reminds me the one outside
of the Aukan Art Gallery wasn't really found and it
was more a waterfall, an urban waterfall. It was good, though,
Stanley Marcus, welcome, good evening.

Speaker 19 (50:19):
Yes, good evening, Marcus. Now I look, yeah, you woke
me up in the middle of the night last night
with your song. Do you mind me asking you if
you if it was AI.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Generated completely, someone send it, someone sent it into me.
I see it's good though, isn't it.

Speaker 19 (50:43):
Yeah? I thought, is that actually Marcus, because he's doing
quite well.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yep, Well it's fact now people heard it.

Speaker 16 (50:52):
Yeah, No, No.

Speaker 19 (50:53):
It actually woke me up because quite often I have
you know, a news talk said be going and then
I'll drop off to sleep at door I don't know,
Levin or something, and it woke me up. Yeah, hey,
now can I talk about something else please. We've got
no poow g echos around here anymore on the farm.

(51:14):
We're out past why Toma caves.

Speaker 11 (51:18):
They're all gone, really, yeh.

Speaker 19 (51:21):
Look, there used to be so many when I was
a kid. We used to eat them. Dad used to
shoot them with the twenty two. And oh you know
they take while to cook. They sort of quite isn't you?

Speaker 2 (51:35):
And is it the loss of wetland or what would
it be?

Speaker 19 (51:40):
There was no real change here, okay.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
And you're a man of the land, you know, I
mean of the land. We keep an eye on what's
going on. We know, we keep out. I can't work
that out.

Speaker 19 (51:50):
Yeah, well, I said to my brother, have you seen
any poo geckos around for a while? It's ages And
I think somebody reckoned that they were quite bad on
eating baby ducks. Yes, and I know that there are
a lot more ducks around now, but something, something must

(52:13):
be getting down on them.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Can't work out what it would be. I'll tell you what.
Down south Wigan and undated by spoonbills. What are they
look like a white heroing but they've got a bell
that looks like a spoon and they got their head
in the water the whole time, going back and forward
and low water looking for things off the mudflats. Aussie bird,
Oh yeah, they're established there. They're not good.

Speaker 19 (52:36):
No they what do they do wrong?

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Nothing? That's the way they lock.

Speaker 19 (52:42):
Well, I tell you what. There is another bird. I
think it's a spur wing clover or something, and we
call them squawky birds.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
They're everywhere.

Speaker 19 (52:52):
Oh yeah, and they just have their babies in the.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Paddic Yeah, and panic breeders.

Speaker 19 (52:59):
Luckily not many of them survive, you know, because otherwise,
oh they make a terrible noise, you know, and all that.
But hey, can I just talk one more?

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Heaps of magpie suddenly?

Speaker 19 (53:12):
But you can trap them?

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Are I can't be bothered? But are they bad?

Speaker 19 (53:18):
Well? Yeah, I think they drive away all made a
birds because they're so aggressive. I don't like them, so,
but you can trap them. My brother he had a
couple of cages and he caught probably about two thousand
this This was over a couple of years and they've
never come back because see, magpies will go a long way.

(53:41):
And I think they were coming up right up the
valley from Maricopa right up to.

Speaker 2 (53:44):
Here tom Phillips. And Tom Phillips isn't eating them all,
is he.

Speaker 19 (53:51):
Well, yeah, we blame everything on him. They can want
one more thing, Yes, you know you're talking about Chris
Lux and he wouldn't give Mike Hoss a straight answer
straight away and all that. But I remember back in

(54:11):
nineteen ninety up in Auckland, and I think it was
Sean Plunket on every morning.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Yeah plunker Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where's he now?

Speaker 19 (54:21):
I don't know what he's doing, but I'd be waiting
outside the workshop, you know, just waiting for the doors
to open at about quarter to eight, and he'd be
on the air. I think it was him trying to
get a straight answer out of the politicians. And it
was just the same thing every morning, just ducking and
dodging and all the words pro barricading, obspacating, and he

(54:47):
used to just get furious with them. So it's not
a new thing, Marcus.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
I don't think anyone thinks it's a new thing. But
I think previously we've had good communicators and people thought, well,
you know, what's the point. I mean, the role of
the promise is to answer, particularly you got a short
interview in the morning, twenty three minutes. Well, however long
it is to answer questions, to think otherwise, there's no
point having the interviews. There seems to be the whole point.
I mean, what's the point of him being there. We
just going to obfuscate, Marcus. Crickets are still going strong.

(55:17):
It's going to give them the hose, but we're short
on water in Auckland. I think there's a fountain in
Cornwell Park. Oh that's right. It's kind of an a
Nomen's at the end of Market Road and Monaco Road.
I don't know there's people washing themselves in there, are there, Marcus.
We visited the Trevy founded in last September and years

(55:38):
it was heavily policed with the huge crowds. They have
some great photos on my new cell phone, but don't
know how to send them to you. Victoria on the
River Facebook page has great pictures. It's very nice and
opposite garden place. It seems they are trying Cameron Marcus

(55:59):
I live between Hamilton and Cambridge. I avoid Hamilton and
Capitals at all costs, guard and place fill it with restaurants.
It all opened out to the live entertainment, the Cedar
Street style French courtyard. It's a no brainer. I love
a no brainer, Marcus. They wasted time and money building

(56:21):
a weed splash, play fan and thing in Takapoon and
able to use it except seagulls and pigeons. It's gross. Simon, Well,
Takapoon has been a dead zone for a long life.
I can't work out what's going on there. I don't
know how they've always managed to ruin a suburb continually
for so long. It was only good when that guy

(56:41):
had the Nandos there, I know, or do you call
it Nando's. I'm never quite sure. People correct me. I'll
tell you one thing I've noticed this job. There's no
shortage of people correcting you. Marcus. My neighbors started trapping magpies.
We have none on our farm next door, but over
two years he's caught one hundred and fifty eight. I

(57:03):
think trapping magpies is quite cruel because I think you
put a female in the cage to tract the males
and then it's like a honey trap. Would you call
it a honey trap? Of it with birds? By the way,
why do they call it a honey trap? There's honey
involvers there so fountains, but those fountains where they just

(57:26):
have there's ones at Britain Art and Auckland downtown there
where there's just water coming up of the grid. Kids
run around and then you got to change their clothes
and they get wet. But they're terrible things, really. I
guess people can't drown them, so I guess that's the advantage.
The don't need to be fenced off, so it's kind
of a water feature without the pool. But then they
all get clogged up in half the time. They don't

(57:47):
work on We might start a campaign a post to
all fountains so the crickets are going off by all accounts,
that's good intel. Where do you think the first citizens
of rest will be? Yeah, you've got all these people
that think they're what's that? What are those people that

(58:09):
are always trying to arrest people? They think they're you said,
and what's that? Citizens movement? Is that because they're always
trying to arrest people, probably give them kind of false hope.
You know, they're always the ones that when they get
the police stop them and they want Oh you know
those people, they're good on YouTube. They drive you mad.

(58:30):
Sovereign citizens that's the handle, their front handle. They'll be
doing citizen arrests. He's not going to go well, and
then the criminals will be arming themselves to resist arrest,
and then people will get hurt.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
Cheap.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
It's twenty nine to ten money. It's about fountains, the
best and the worst. We've got so many beautiful water
features anyway, but fancy having a beautiful river within fifty
meters and then having a water feature like that. I

(59:08):
think someone with a fountain and fangade they got Coli.
That's not good. That's the Pootahi water feature. Oh that's it.
I quite like the town basin actually there, but I'm
not a favorite that that just gets out of the water.

(59:29):
Bobbitt's Marcus Evening.

Speaker 6 (59:32):
Yeah, just I'm wondering about the fountains there.

Speaker 5 (59:34):
MICUs.

Speaker 6 (59:34):
I'm I'm living in Blendam now and there's a beautiful
part here with a clock in it and a beautiful.

Speaker 11 (59:38):
Fountain, but there's not any protection.

Speaker 6 (59:41):
Once we haveing to stop a tile child wandering across
palling and it drowning.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
And I mean it's okay.

Speaker 11 (59:49):
Restricted and I'm not restricted fences around them or something.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Well you think with the beckyard pool laws you would
have to do that, wouldn't you.

Speaker 12 (59:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (59:56):
Yeah, because you put a pool in your back out
and they find.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Don't you? And kind of right? Is this Seymour Square?

Speaker 24 (01:00:03):
Is it the one that's the one?

Speaker 19 (01:00:04):
Mate?

Speaker 11 (01:00:05):
You're onto it?

Speaker 6 (01:00:05):
And fountain lovely back. I've done a great job there
with the gardens on that. But there's a fountain there
and since reasonably deep, you'll drown on't it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Maybe it's because it's a war memorial that's got special dispensation.

Speaker 6 (01:00:17):
I don't know why they tell them it's a war
memorial seed you can't drown and that come.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
On yeh, but maybe you know, I'm just I'm just
thinking how the councils would think. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:00:29):
So that's quite prittiant, that's everything's very nice there. But
I just thought when you mentioned it, I thought, when
I was wandering there the other day, I thought, what's
the stop a kid wandering and then drowning?

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Because you know, did you ever see the kids in it.

Speaker 6 (01:00:41):
No, I never seen any kids even in the park
for that matter. Yeah, okay, yeah, you've only got that
one in there, haven't you. You know, as I say,
you put a putting padic pull on a home and
you've got to build a great fence around it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Okay, we'll find out more bubble find of the legals
on that one, thank you. Twenty seven to nine ten.
Get in touch. Yep, there you go. Fountains, bad fountains,
drowning and fountains. Anything else you want to talk about
here on midnight? Oh wait, tatter at eighty Tenadian nine

(01:01:16):
two nine to de text Marcus, is it the crickets
going off with the Cicada's I'm hearing Cicada's daytime crickets
at night. Get in touch Marcus till twelve emails if
you've got the man, texts Marcus here in or Tucky.

(01:01:39):
We only have one round about, Jamie, where is that?
I spent some time there over the break, quite a
good town, free coffee at the beach that was good.
Didn't see the roundabout. I saw the shop with the
drive and it happened that that kind of weird budget
perfume shop I said the first time was saying that.

(01:02:04):
I said, oh, yeah, saw the How did you know
about that? We follow the news. Oh they've got a roundabout.
Had a pie. That was good. They're good town. It's
kind of almost like two towns, isn't it Anyway, had

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a good wander around the beach.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Happened to the races there also. That's a good place.
The race track there, it's got great events. We'll takeing
Maori Racecourse. I went to the races there. It was
quite spectacular. I just put two and two together. Get
in touch if you want to talk about fountains or
anything else. Tonight by the way to the fountain and
Oriental Bay, Wellington really nice. Kathy Marcus. We had a

(01:02:58):
new fountain put along put in along the main entrance
onto Audioa Beach in Auckland. Council spent one sixty k
on it. It's horrible and many complaints have been made.

(01:03:19):
Brilliant Marcus is an impressive fountain on Virginia late Fong
and we're well maintained by the council. As I recall,
it was activated by inserting a fifty cent coin and
had an intricate display cycle lasting about five minutes Livingstone. Hey,
did you read about North Korea robbing all the bitcoins?

(01:03:45):
What an amazing article that was. They robbed it was
the biggest robbery ever. They backedored the system and they
stole one point five billion dollars in a single heist. Yeah,

(01:04:13):
the largest crypto hack on record. There's a company called
Bybit based in Saudi where you still your crypto and
where you don't store it. They're a little taken. Had
forty million users. It's the world's largest crypto currency exchange.

(01:04:35):
So everyone talks about Crypto has been such a great
currency because you can move it around the world and
it's untraceable. But gee, how secure is it? I saw
that and I thought people must be freaking out.

Speaker 5 (01:04:51):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
You know, at least you've got gold and the safe
in the backyard. You have to come and knock on
the door and ask you for your code number. But
becomp gold and seconds. Roberts Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 25 (01:05:08):
Good evening. I was just at Towing Airport at a
meeting in the gliding club which runs alongside the grass runway.
When the light aircraft came in and flipped onto its nose.

Speaker 10 (01:05:32):
Was it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
Were people aware that it was going to be a
challenging lending or was it unexpected?

Speaker 25 (01:05:40):
I believe it was unexpected. We were just sitting having
a meeting and the light aircraft came in about I
don't know, fifty meters away from where we were, and
it came in. It seemed a fairly normal approach and landing.
Initially it was coming in fairly quick, but we didn't

(01:06:03):
actually see it crashed because it went behind the building.
And the first we knew that anything was wrong was
several fire engines and sphracles and an ambulance rocked up.
Evident the violet is okay, but he's been taking the hospital.

(01:06:27):
But as far as I can ascertain, the plane came
in and just I'm not sure what's happened, but he
but it was a tail dragon plane. I that he
didn't have a nose well, And it seems like it
possibly dug into the ground in some way or form
and flipped over and ended up upside down.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
And you said, it's a grass but landed on the
on the Ashfelt runway. Did it not on the grass runway?

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
No?

Speaker 25 (01:06:55):
No, No, It landed on the grass runway, which is
run runs parallel to the main runway so and and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
It hit something and then flipped right forward and landed
on it and it catch fire.

Speaker 11 (01:07:08):
Not to my knowledge, Okay, I didn't see any fire
or anything.

Speaker 14 (01:07:13):
Just a lot of.

Speaker 25 (01:07:15):
Fire engines and personnel running around. And yeah, the guy
evidently is okay. But it's been taken to tower in
the hospital just for the precaution.

Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
Appreciate the update Rob much on the agenda at the
glider meeting.

Speaker 25 (01:07:30):
Not really have you ever been to a committee meeting.

Speaker 20 (01:07:36):
One of them?

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
I regon they should have them standing up so they
go quicker. Rob, thanks so much for that. Fifteen to ten.
My name is Marcus. Welcome so I suspected, oh, eight
hundred and eighty Telly nine two nine. It takes bad foundains,
good fountains, guard and place and Hamilton, what a disaster
that is. They opened it up to the river. Sort
out your city. From a business point of view, it's

(01:08:00):
kind of it's just a wasted opportunity. Hamilton. Feel quite
strongly about that, the number of times I've been there
and not really got a hang of it. Here's the issue.
Hamilton grapples with people showering in the town square. Hamilton
City council is resting what to do with people showering

(01:08:22):
in a central city fountain. People have been spotted showering
in the Garden Place fountains. The fountains water recirculates so
it doesn't drain off. People then play in that water.
It's not just showering. There's people defecating, hanging clothes, taking drugs,
begging and displaying threatening behavior in the square. There's obviously

(01:08:50):
mentaliness and dict issues going on, but Garden plays is
an area where people like to come and sit relax
at lunchtime, and this is not conducive for that. He said.
There are businesses wanting to move out of Garden Place
due to some of the behavior in the hub. This

(01:09:10):
is a counter saying garden places our showcase, garden places,
our showcase places, our town square. Anyway, it's a failure,
that's what it is. It's a terrible place and they
need to resolve it and it needs to be elsewhere.
I would say that would be my answer there. I'm
getting touch Marcus till twelve. You doing talk on here?

(01:09:33):
There's something else you want to mention. I did ask
you if there's more traffic, cones and people, and you
I don't know. I we've got a proper answer for that,
and Totong has got one hundred and ninety roundabout. It's
a lot, isn't it. By the way, I don't think
anyone ever said that's band roundabouts. I think they're growing
and here to day. They're cheaper than traffic lights and

(01:09:53):
safer because with traffic lights you abandon all decisions to
the lights, whereas with roundabouts you've got to have skin
in the game. It's conditional on you making some decisions
and that makes them safer. Marcus, it will be interesting

(01:10:16):
to see how companies will balance their health and safety
obligations around the new citizens arrest announcement. I wouldn't be
surprised if lots of businesses continue with the state's growth.
I'd be surprised if it actually becomes a thing, the
citizens arrest. The police have been very down on it.
It seems to have not been widely sought after a

(01:10:39):
widely approved I think it's poor legislation. We were promised
five hundred more police. There's more police than they had
when National started, and now it seems that they're trying
to make everyone become police and do the enforcing for
the government anyway, Marcus, why can't we have a logan's

(01:11:01):
run system. If you don't contribute to society, you get zapped.
You know, that's what they're talking about in America. I
think they're talking about compulsory sterilizations certain groups of people. Yeah,
go figure, it's not good. Let's say it's worrisome. Worrisome, Thomas,

(01:11:26):
it's Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 11 (01:11:28):
Hey, Marcus, are going mate. I was listening to you
on my headphones walking into the soup market and got
bowled over nearly by go running out with the full basket.
And then it's a bit of a commotion. I was
kind of sharing as the security guarden noted the basket
of his hands and got all the goods.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Whereabouts are we talking, Thomas?

Speaker 11 (01:11:46):
The main road cut down? Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:11:49):
We was.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
Yeah, so he had one of those hand baskets, did.

Speaker 11 (01:11:52):
He Yeah, And he went through the sharks teeth, but
they were the prospects.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Ones the shark teeth to go in, not to come
out right.

Speaker 11 (01:12:01):
So as I was coming in the shark teeth, I
nearly got bowled over because like he was running past me,
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
And I've never seen it before, so I've never seen that.

Speaker 11 (01:12:09):
I didn't retually realize what was going on until security
just ran after him and as was leaving the glass
sliding doors, they I think they ship maybe bumped them,
grabbed the basket off them, and then he ran away
the defender.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
So what did the security guard do?

Speaker 11 (01:12:30):
I don't know, like because I couldn't quite see.

Speaker 18 (01:12:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:12:34):
Yeah, but I went up to the two security guards
and one was a lady who was a young male
who I both were real chop with themselves, and I said,
well done things. They've got an appetite for the new
the new law coming in, and they just said, yeah,
we can't wait.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
So what did What did they actually do?

Speaker 22 (01:12:58):
Well?

Speaker 11 (01:12:58):
They they got the basket out of his hand, and
I think they might have might have bumped them a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Were they waiting just outside the shack teeth? Could they
see because normally they're normally they're out by the tills,
are they.

Speaker 11 (01:13:11):
They were by the tills. But as he ran past them,
because he bought a lot of attention of self, you
don't if you kind of just walk out. Yeah, but
here ran in a fluster.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Ah, what was in it? What was in the basket?

Speaker 4 (01:13:26):
I was full?

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Yeah, of what sort of stuff.

Speaker 11 (01:13:32):
Not not your thrown and veg It was just all
this other stuff like shampoos and stuff. Yeah, okay, okay, yeah,
And it was like it was a mixture. It was
a mixture. It was like not one thing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Did you see where we'd get everything back?

Speaker 12 (01:13:46):
Now?

Speaker 11 (01:13:46):
They didn't see when I said you're not allowed to
go off the property and do anything to him? Were
allowed to tuck them? They said? And did no one
allowed to grab the basket?

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Did no one pursue him?

Speaker 12 (01:13:59):
Nah?

Speaker 11 (01:13:59):
They didn't even look like they're calling the cops or anything.
But yeah, because they did their job. Say the stores follow.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
Do you say it?

Speaker 14 (01:14:08):
Do?

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
They say? It happens often?

Speaker 11 (01:14:12):
I get into that, but I'm a feeling it did.

Speaker 18 (01:14:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:14:15):
But they were chas day like they were like fving
each other and stuff for security.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
Appreciate you calling Thomas. Thanks. Someone has texted and asked
whether people could use pepper spray for citizens or wrist
So you want to know about that. And if you
can tie them up, can you also use pepper spray
to disable them? I wouldn't imagine you could, but I'm
sure someone's going to try that. Oh, by the way,
the seven planets are aligning. Everyone's given that a go.

(01:14:45):
Someone says, can the alignment of the seven planets be
seen from New Zealand whether without a telescope? Thanks you
got some information about that. Great, that's straight at what
we need to hear, Marcus. My, how times have changed.
Only a few years ago the headlines were where are
the group of really tourists currently now? As where is

(01:15:06):
the fully Chinese frigate? And someone says can you use
pepper spray when doing a citizen to rest? Marcus? There
was a time when Blenham was the king of roundabouts.
I guess teldong I took the trophy for most roundabouts
and most told roads. Oh eight hundred and eighty Teddy

(01:15:28):
one of us, Marcus, welcome head at twelve o'clock. Fountains, parks,
cones and roundabouts and seeing the seven planets aligned. I
think there's too many articles about suddenly we can see this,
suddenly we can see that, and actually can't see any
of them. They just realize there's kind of an appetite

(01:15:51):
for those sorts of stories. But every comment lately has
been a dud. I reckon this planet lineup is going
to be a dudtle, So you might have something to
say about that. I don't know what it is too. Hello, Judy,
it's Marcus.

Speaker 20 (01:16:03):
Welcome Marcus, my husband and next customs officer. And it's
illegal to use papa say and CSS goes.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
But you'd say it would be illegal to you would
say it would be illegal to tie people up. But
maybe with the new laws you can do that now.

Speaker 20 (01:16:23):
My husband is an next customs officer and he said
it's illegal.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
Okay, but these are these are new laws coming in,
aren't they.

Speaker 13 (01:16:31):
This is just new legislation being well, look a minute, Marchael,
I let my have some talk to you.

Speaker 18 (01:16:38):
John.

Speaker 20 (01:16:38):
He thinks the law will be changed.

Speaker 5 (01:16:40):
Oh, my husband is.

Speaker 14 (01:16:41):
But inspect.

Speaker 8 (01:16:43):
If you're having a confrontation with anybody, one has to
look at what you're being confronted with. And if it's
someone with a big chunk of woods, then you obviously
need something to upset the chunk of wood. But if
it's a knife or a gun, then I'm afraid CS
guests just won't help you. He might get into the
knife before.

Speaker 5 (01:17:01):
The CS guest effects.

Speaker 8 (01:17:02):
And so it's the way it is, Marcus. It's it's
one of those conundrums.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
Appreciate that. Thank you, Judy and mister Judy vow good evening.

Speaker 26 (01:17:13):
I know, I was just talking about a countdown thing
that I witnessed, and these people went out with a
trolley full of groceries and I had just paid for
mine and I sort of came out just a little
bit behind them actually, and the staff were all out there,
and I said what are you doing. They said, they've
just punched the groceries. I said, well, can't you stop them?
They said no, we're not allowed to do anything. And

(01:17:35):
I said, oh, is that right? So I just had
my trolley, who was going to my car, and I
just followed them up the way they were going, and
they started putting this stuff in their car, and I
took the number plate and I walked back and gave
it to the staff, and they rang at the police
and the police got them.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
Oh well from the number plate.

Speaker 18 (01:17:57):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
You wonder why the security guard tend gone out to
get the number plate.

Speaker 26 (01:18:03):
Well, maybe they didn't think about it. And I just said, oh,
you didnt get a number plate they're putting in the car.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
We think they would think about it because and you
think also there'd be CCTVC footage. That's right, Yeah, which
countdown wasn't vell?

Speaker 26 (01:18:17):
There was one in Napier.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
In the middle of the middle of the day.

Speaker 26 (01:18:22):
Oh yeah. It would have been about maybe two o'clock
or something with sunlight, quite a nice day.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
Would you would would you? Would you partake in the
citizens to rest?

Speaker 26 (01:18:33):
I don't know whether i'd want to interfere with anybody,
because sometimes they just go crazy, you know, and just
pinch them. I think I think it's easier just to
watch where they're going with it and take their car
down them.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Some of the fear is now they could be armed, because.

Speaker 26 (01:18:49):
That's what I mean. And they've got screwdrivers and all
sorts in their pockets, haven't they.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Well they might have pepper spray as well.

Speaker 26 (01:18:56):
Yeah, And I mean I'm a bit over the hill,
so I don't think I want anybody to tacking me.

Speaker 2 (01:19:03):
Fair enough. Nice to hear from your vel. Hello Russell
ats Marcus, good evening, did they?

Speaker 27 (01:19:09):
I'm an old Southland fuller born in in v Cargo, uh,
reared around the cheese factories the way down south. But
I remember the the cocktail and the toilets at the cocktail.
Can you remember that you won't. I don't think you're
too young. They are underground toilets.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Which city are we talking?

Speaker 27 (01:19:34):
Going down towards the railway station and in the cargo, Yes, exactly. Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
They always seemed a bit sketchy underground ones, didn't they.

Speaker 27 (01:19:44):
Yeah they were. They were in Dneedin as well.

Speaker 2 (01:19:47):
I think Orcan had them to you go. I don't
even know why they built them, subterran and they always
seemed to be sort of not a sort of place
should be drawn to. O.

Speaker 27 (01:19:57):
Well you had to go this. Yeah, So they're underground cargo,
just in just towards the railway station from the big
clock there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
Yeah, oh, that's all under repeat now they're actually putting
the cars back through there again, believe it or not.

Speaker 27 (01:20:18):
Yeah, the old railway station's not there now either.

Speaker 19 (01:20:21):
Is it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
It is there, but it's used, it's not used for anything.
It's quite a modern time and I think it was
in the early seventies. But just kind of a white elephant.

Speaker 28 (01:20:30):
Now.

Speaker 27 (01:20:31):
Well, I used to come from Longwood and way down
below Riverton. Yes, that was a chief factory manager there, goodness.
And I used to come on the train to the
South and Technical College and we used to have fights

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on the platform at the.

Speaker 18 (01:20:55):
At the.

Speaker 27 (01:20:57):
At the station, the bluff boys would come up and
we'd throw handbags at one another, and then we'd go
on to school.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
What we're studying?

Speaker 27 (01:21:06):
Oh, I was just a carpenter at t U n
D in the Cargo Technical College.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
Did you turn that into did you turn that into
your vocation?

Speaker 5 (01:21:16):
Oh?

Speaker 27 (01:21:17):
Crops, Yes, yes. I had a successful business in Bettleclutha
here doing what uh building with the building firm. And
then I bought a floor sander and went into carpet
lane spid.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
Hey your knees, Oh.

Speaker 27 (01:21:36):
My knees are good.

Speaker 18 (01:21:39):
I got out of that.

Speaker 27 (01:21:40):
The doctor told me to get the hell out of
that carpet lane game. And I got a meter reading job.
Really yeah, And I toured in and I've been meet
a reading from the Danzi's pass to the captain's Are
you still doing?

Speaker 2 (01:21:58):
Are you still doing it?

Speaker 27 (01:22:00):
Oh Crops maydey seven. Now I've been out of that
for a bit. Great life, had a great life.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Any exciting story, any close calls of the meter reader?

Speaker 12 (01:22:12):
Oh?

Speaker 27 (01:22:13):
Had I had?

Speaker 18 (01:22:15):
Yes?

Speaker 27 (01:22:15):
I had a lot of fun. And Parmerson and you
know Parmerson north of Duneda.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
We hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. We
don't say Palmiston north of Duneda. We just say parmist need.

Speaker 27 (01:22:30):
A need Okay, okay, I'm not that politically correct, but
in mind, you know where I am and walking up
the passage of a big old house and the meter
was up in the middle of the passage and you're
knock on the door. We had a key in those
days to get into a place if you couldn't get in.

(01:22:53):
And we walked up the passage and reading the meters
and here's a bit for girls come out with no
tops one just a shock of me life.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
In Palmerston.

Speaker 27 (01:23:11):
Yeah, it was just well back in those days, Marcus.
There was drugs of starting to get around, and there
was hippies and all sorts of things, and and yeah,
it was quite an interesting job at see. I had
all sorts of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Nice to hear from your Russell. Thanks very much for
that I met you. The story would have been about
that that nature goodness. Oh one hundred and eighty e
tey nineteen.

Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
Text.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
What about the pepper spray? So we get ourselves on
pepper spray anyway, Marcus Seasons, greetings, Happy New Year. I
just want to jump on the round about subject here
and pok a Cory. They seem to have none until
someone got seriously heard interdection. Then they build one. How
much do you think of roundabout costs to make? I'd

(01:24:06):
say two hundred grand, that's my take, Marcus. Security guards
don't chase them for their own safety, otherwise they'll be targeted,
thank you. I don't know what the stage is thinking

(01:24:26):
when it becomes law, but the police have very much
opposed to it. Just so you know, but I think
it's the worst idea. This is citizens arrests. I don't
think you just say I hereby arrest you You've got
to actually then hold them. I think until the police arrive.

(01:24:50):
I think you can tie them up if you've got
a lariat. What's a lariat? Is that the right? If
I use the right word, then if you had a lariat,
or if you've got your take your belt off and
you could what's going to happen. There be people arresting
people that'll be posting on YouTube, There'll be influencers arresting people.

(01:25:14):
It will be a disaster. You mark my words on this, Hi, Pete,
it's Marcus. Good evening and welcome.

Speaker 28 (01:25:22):
Yeah they're Marcus.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
You'd be up from arresting someone, wouldn't you.

Speaker 24 (01:25:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (01:25:28):
Good?

Speaker 28 (01:25:28):
Wait, Well, for as far as I'm going to see,
what we want to do first is the character as
you know yourself, you've been around. We're too soft in
this country. We just have to do like the other
countries do. Security guards. They have a taser gun, they
have a better and you'll find a lot of the
stuff will go away because I'll start realizing, hey, people
going to control, not them the control, and citizens arrest

(01:25:51):
aren't actually for it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
So hang onte, hang on because I like a bit
of to and fro, because we were expecting when we're
promised five hundred more police, which we haven't got. So
so they've got to get people to arrest people themselves.
Will you be getting yourself match fit to arrest people?

Speaker 18 (01:26:10):
No, I won't.

Speaker 28 (01:26:12):
I wouldn't go that far. I'm not going to do
it myself.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
So would you tackle someone?

Speaker 18 (01:26:19):
No, no way, I'm not going to do that.

Speaker 28 (01:26:20):
All I would do is if I saw someone coming
out of a out of a supermarket of groceries, hoping
that people in the supermarket, like the other lady said,
what they brain dead? You know when they just get
the red they do half of the mostly went forward
the police so they can track them down once they
leave the supermarket.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Do you think do you think the security brain dead?

Speaker 14 (01:26:44):
No?

Speaker 28 (01:26:44):
Everybody you know.

Speaker 6 (01:26:45):
What when they get paid.

Speaker 28 (01:26:47):
It's common sense first of all, Chris Pete.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Pete, you're one of those guys that's got all the answers.

Speaker 28 (01:26:55):
It's common sense, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
I don't know. You're telling me what do you do
when you have a car crash?

Speaker 28 (01:27:01):
The first thing is do you get the details?

Speaker 18 (01:27:03):
They drive off?

Speaker 28 (01:27:03):
You've got nothing, so you make the job easy for everybody.
So first thing you get the registration. They're putting the
stuff in the car so fiercely.

Speaker 18 (01:27:13):
There might be a.

Speaker 28 (01:27:13):
Stolen carb who knows. So basically, Lisia, done your best,
but you're not doing your best or the cops.

Speaker 18 (01:27:19):
Will show up.

Speaker 28 (01:27:20):
I see you eat the ridgeoe.

Speaker 24 (01:27:21):
Oh we didn't think of that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
So would you see that? Would you see you as
a member of the public, right, would you see it
as your job to be a part time crime fighter
and gather information for the Feds?

Speaker 8 (01:27:34):
No?

Speaker 28 (01:27:34):
Not really, but if I see it, I'm not going
to get looking for a want to be police. But
if I if I do see something in the front
of my eyes that I see is not good, I'm
not I'm in an age and not going to harm myself.
I hurt myself by some loser that's going to fully
smesh me in the nose or something.

Speaker 14 (01:27:50):
I don't want to do that.

Speaker 28 (01:27:51):
But I'll make the job hard for them, or at
least I'll give the police information to try to.

Speaker 15 (01:27:56):
Get those people.

Speaker 28 (01:27:57):
So as soon as more people like me, who think
like me, we'll get on top of these foods. I realize, Hey,
we're actually getting court now. People are dubbing uson. So
the more we do that, the better and we'll probably
find the people the problem go away. And also with
the I said before, with the with the guards, they've
got to be armed. They're gonna be they've gotta have
a taser or Betton. You go to Europe, it doesn't

(01:28:20):
know we got they all got them.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Do you think some of those security guards with betans
would would they be the use to defend the supermarket?

Speaker 14 (01:28:29):
Well, put them this away, Marcus.

Speaker 28 (01:28:31):
I respect someone's got a Beton, wouldn't you You've got
a taste gun.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
Well, I don't think the people that are robbing from supermaks,
are respecting anyone much anyway, I don't think the betan's
probably gonna They'll probably get themselves a bet and it
will become a bit of an arms war.

Speaker 28 (01:28:44):
No, no, really, because the end of the day is
that those security guys have got a duty to do.
They've got a job to do. That's what that paid
to do. So then they're not gonna be They're gonna
watch it while they do too, they'll assuming be out
of a job. They're not going to be the How
could I say, Arnold schwarsniggers on the job?

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Hang on, hang on, you can't say no, not really.
You said that they're going to have taste and bettons
because everyone in the world, And then I said, wouldn't
that mean just the robbers are going to arm themselves?
Then you said, no, not really.

Speaker 28 (01:29:16):
What I'm saying no that robbers won't arm themselves because
they just then they say, get tougher and the problem
go away. So we just have to get tougher. We're
far to soften this country. And right now they know
that that we hardn't app for final honor, and they
won't do these things because the police are on security guards,
on the staffer, on them.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
They'll go the police, the police, and on them. Because
we've got nowhere nearly enough police. They can't fulfill and
replace the policemen that are leaving.

Speaker 18 (01:29:45):
Well that's what I mean.

Speaker 28 (01:29:46):
But by the serious security guards, I me and Joe
public who sees something and don't I'm not going to
harm myself. I'm not going to get there. I'm not
going to get some loser gonna smith he's gonna help.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Me in the nose.

Speaker 28 (01:29:57):
No, I don't want to. I don't want to end
up for whatever. So I'm not going to give them
that opportunity. But I make the job really hard for them.
So I'll do my best. Hoping the police when they
do show up on the job, they've got all the information.
There's much information I can give to them to try
to stop these folks more.

Speaker 2 (01:30:14):
Have you thought of making your own pepper spray, Pete.

Speaker 28 (01:30:20):
Well, that's nothing to you, probably is. If they're going
to bring this human law and a citizens of arrest,
you know, why not. If you're going to make it
easier for them and.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
People starting to hang on, would you think of making
your own pepper spray?

Speaker 28 (01:30:36):
They wouldn't make it. I'll just if it was available.
I think some countries already have it. I think they
actually do have. Some ladies have it themselves. Just to
protect yourself, so just to stun them, basically, to stop
them on their tracks, so they listen. Hopefully by that,
hopefully by when if they bring the citizen a citizens.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
In which they won't. It'll never happen. But anyway we
can dream.

Speaker 28 (01:31:01):
Well, I hope it does happen.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
Well, no one thinks it's a good idea. Apart from you.

Speaker 28 (01:31:07):
I think it's a jolly good ideas. Can we got
to get tough of Marcus?

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
What about if you had a fishing What about if
you had a fishing net?

Speaker 28 (01:31:17):
Well, it's abasly not a bad thing, is here?

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
Well, you're gonna want to sear them in something like that.
Just have it by the boot of your car. Look
like you're rummaging in the boot past they come for.
Don't get out your homemade pepper spray.

Speaker 28 (01:31:30):
Yeah, hopefully, hopefully the place if they bring the citizen,
the rest and that they will act was actually doing
them a favor. The more we catch these guys that
are doing this, they're getting away from right now. They
know they're getting away with it, so we've got to
stop them. If we don't bring something in law, they're
going to carry on doing what they're doing. So we've
got to stop these thunks. They're thunks.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
The things you're getting.

Speaker 2 (01:31:53):
You're getting quite emotional about that, and.

Speaker 28 (01:31:57):
They're getting your aff and it's time to stop the stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:32:00):
Good eye, you're Pete. Nice to talk. Wow, Oh, Marcus.
The governor only permitting citizens arrest because cop numbers are
down under their watch. They're saying to every retailer out

(01:32:21):
there that their own security is in their hands. Don't
expect the cops to come out of rest the thieves.
If you dear Hamish Marcus re security guard at supermarkets.
It would be a biggot terror to have two guards.
Supermarkets can afford the costs, that's right. They're making a
lot of money time for supermarkets to protect their staff

(01:32:45):
and customers. Just look at the profits they make each year.
It's a good point. Davo Darvo, Tony, it's Marcus. Welcome.
Hi Tony.

Speaker 23 (01:33:01):
Hey, you mean Marcus has again. It's a pretty enjoyable show.

Speaker 2 (01:33:05):
To be honest, You've got to be honest.

Speaker 23 (01:33:10):
The last caller are how they funny? Anyway, the fishing
net was hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
But yeah, well I'm thinking about that because you want
to stop someone. It's a pretty Scooby Doo move that one,
isn't that their net? Yeah?

Speaker 23 (01:33:26):
Yeah, yeah, pretty fast?

Speaker 18 (01:33:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:33:29):
Anyway, I'm not for it. I mean, it's what a
ridiculous idea. I was listening to what the police the
police minister this morning, and he's happened, like the last
caller anyway, you know, I'm not for it. You know,
the next minute, you'll have virgilante groups all over the place, and.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
I think what happens. People want to do it for
the YouTube follows. They'll be wanting to form games and
they'll be throwing fishing nets at people and hog tying them.

Speaker 23 (01:33:56):
And then you have criminals just arresting, trying to arrest
their mates and stuff so they can get light defendants.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
Yeah okay. And then those sovereign citizen people, I mean,
I mean, they're a quick hittle fish. God, is what
they'll be doing. Marcus, the supermarket I go to, I've
twice seen it twice seen a security guard kick a
trolley over that has been full of groceries and been
just walked through the check up without paying. They have
run off as don't want to hang around to pick

(01:34:28):
up the groceries. The security guard never touched the thief.
Just kick the trolley over. Brendan, Marcus, Welcome evening, Marcus.
There's a game, mate, Good Brendan.

Speaker 17 (01:34:40):
Look my take on it from what I've seen, and
I've seen people at the supermarket absconding. Look some of
the security.

Speaker 29 (01:34:51):
Guards that they hire, they're all nanos, or they're out
of shape people or young company based noodles. I mean,
you know, there's no deterrent there. You need some real
tough meat heads there too as a deterrent. Look recently,
I went as a as a support person for an

(01:35:14):
associate or an acquaintance of mine that was going to court.

Speaker 18 (01:35:18):
And at the.

Speaker 17 (01:35:22):
When you walk into the court, there's a couple of
security guards there and I tell you, you know, six
foot plus, you know, one hundred and thirty kilos. They
could have played prop for the All Blacks. That's the
sort of dudes you need. You don't need these bloody
wet blankets that have done a security course. There's no
deterrent in there at all.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
You need, do you know how much they're getting paid.
It must be incredibly boring work.

Speaker 17 (01:35:50):
Look at most of the time it would be. There's
not a lot of altercation there man. You know, you
just see them standing outside Michael halland and stuff like that,
and all they're doing is standing there all day long.
But I mean, if someone wants to put a hammer
through the through the Michael Hill blast thing and come
out to a school leaver that's got a security ticket,

(01:36:10):
they're just going to laugh at him. You need you
need a you know, I hate to use the expression again,
but you need a decent meeting out the hesita terrem.

Speaker 19 (01:36:19):
Not a noodle, Not a noodle?

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
Got a noodle? Alistair, you've traveled, have you?

Speaker 18 (01:36:32):
Hello? If to Australia, now go you? Yeah? What I
wan to say tonight, I'd like to see the news
zerand Justice Department study how the Australian Justice Department how
they work. They work twice as Shavilla and news Zerand.

Speaker 2 (01:37:00):
What metrics are we going to look up here saying
this sentence is are twice as long?

Speaker 18 (01:37:05):
So then again.

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
Are you saying in Australia there's sentences or twice as long?

Speaker 18 (01:37:14):
Yeah, Well, I'd never think about a jail in Australia,
but came difference on the Yellow broadcaster. He were saying
that the Yellow Lot they are quite strict over there,
not strict they need.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
Okay, so it's someone else you've heard say this. Yeah,
but I try and deal in the fact, Alistair, because
I quite know what you're alluding to in Australia, what.

Speaker 18 (01:37:48):
I'm saying, and they need you and just should study the.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
Alistair. Alistair, what are you saying in Australia sentences.

Speaker 18 (01:38:00):
Are longer they could be in Kapa.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
But you don't know this, Alistair, you're making a up.

Speaker 18 (01:38:09):
No, they broadcast like tim Yeah, but you've got.

Speaker 2 (01:38:13):
No effects, Alistair. That's opinion. What I want to do
with in the internet. Google something up and see if
sentences in Australia are twice as long or what you're saying,
because this is a problem they have in Australia as well, and.

Speaker 18 (01:38:28):
More severe too. And then and this is what they
want and you hang on.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
Alist I'm getting frustrated with Have you got Google?

Speaker 19 (01:38:38):
No?

Speaker 18 (01:38:40):
What there you want? Year? It's hard labor?

Speaker 2 (01:38:45):
Oh please? Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:38:47):
What should like?

Speaker 22 (01:38:47):
Google?

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Should google average sentence in Australia.

Speaker 18 (01:38:53):
If you like I don't have a computer.

Speaker 6 (01:38:57):
What have you got nothing?

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
You got a phone?

Speaker 18 (01:39:01):
I don't need them. I don't need them people you
think they need you ary things?

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
So okay, well let's google average prison sentence in New Zealand,
shall we?

Speaker 18 (01:39:18):
Yeah, and compare it with what Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
All right, I'll get it done. I'll see what I
can find out. Twelve away from eleven o'clock, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. What are much of security workers
get paid? Marcus Peck and save more house av have
security guards on per shift and they don't miss about.

(01:39:53):
They do an exceptional job, and they look like people
don't want to mess with Marcus. Who is the bigger thief,
the supermarket owner makes millions and pays staff less than
a living wage, or the petty thief. I don't agree
with theft, but in the case of the supermagnetic care,
security guards are not allowed to touch you. Yes, there
are a large number of supermarket owners on the rich list.

(01:40:15):
It's a lucrative gig. Marcus has a bit gunned to
read in the Herald that three hundred people are flying
to Vegas for the warriors. I know for a fact
that way more people would have gone sold it in
seventy minutes and no one else could put together more
deals for fans. Long term fan but never even got
a look in three hundred people only and the is

(01:40:36):
the pits for such a popular sports team. Pretty undignified
how the Landi's was trying to persuade Trump to go.
Goodness me to the caller saying the security guards are noodles.
They aren't trained to tagle offenders. They're trained to take
details of offenders and vehicles, et cetera. Most are on

(01:40:58):
minimum wage. Good evening, Shaky, It's Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 15 (01:41:13):
Hello Marcus. You were talking about the roundabouts. Well, I've
just gone through nine roundabouts.

Speaker 2 (01:41:21):
You'll be dizzy.

Speaker 19 (01:41:23):
Are you?

Speaker 15 (01:41:25):
From Hewlett's Road in Mountain Annui to Caddy Keddy is
nine roundabouts and they're building two more.

Speaker 2 (01:41:34):
Are you driving trucks?

Speaker 15 (01:41:36):
No, I'm heading home. I've passed the trucks of the night,
so I'm heading home now. But yeah, nine roundabouts between
Hewlett Road and Caddy Keddy. And if I say they're
building two more, but in the morning, when I go
back down, When I go back down, the worst roundabout
that I've struck is the roundabout in Tapoona. It's like

(01:42:00):
a catchment because everybody seems to be coming from every
direction and then trying to god towards Why row a bridge?

Speaker 2 (01:42:09):
The reason I'm asking is it hard to do roundabouts
and trucks?

Speaker 15 (01:42:14):
Oh in the truck and trailers? Yeah, yeah, because people
try and cut you off or go around you or yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
But they built they're built big enough, are they?

Speaker 12 (01:42:27):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (01:42:28):
Yeah, they are.

Speaker 15 (01:42:28):
But you've got to be careful because like if you're
trying to stick to the outer lane as you're going around,
you know, there's there's people will cut on the inside
of you or on the outside. And of course they
have the slow vehicle merching lane which you can pull into,
you know, So I try and do that as much

(01:42:49):
as I can, to let cars go past, because you
do get a build up of traffic. You're in a
flower vehicle.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
It seems crazy, ain't nine just to get home?

Speaker 12 (01:43:00):
I know?

Speaker 16 (01:43:00):
Crazy?

Speaker 15 (01:43:01):
But no, no traffic plays.

Speaker 2 (01:43:04):
Yeah, well that's the thing. I guess that's probably in
the lone long run that's quicker a.

Speaker 26 (01:43:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:43:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:43:11):
And it's for the security thing I reckon that they should.
Why don't they give these guys at guns? What are
you saying of the fishing net a gun with an
it they can just shoot and catch people.

Speaker 2 (01:43:25):
That's very Scooby Doo too, isn't it?

Speaker 15 (01:43:29):
Yep? But hey, if they can put it in cartoons,
why can't they do it in reality?

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
How they got the deer and deer recovery jumping from
the planes with neck guns? How we build up our
deerstock out of the out of Fiordland? Were the choppers
and the jumpers? Chris Marcus?

Speaker 10 (01:43:46):
Hello, Hi Marcus, How are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:43:49):
Chris? Thank you?

Speaker 12 (01:43:51):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (01:43:51):
The pay is always been low in the security industry. Well,
depending on what area of industry you work, pay may
vary based on experience and based on on the site
you go on. But most of the time the reason

(01:44:12):
why the wages are so low is due to the
training security havebit it's easy to get a security and license.
It's easy just to go into the security industry and
people think it's a walk in the park. But the
thing is in regards to the I used to work
at Peck and Save many years ago as a security

(01:44:36):
and we had a zero tolerance. The owner had the
numbers in the store playing clothes and uniforms and we
would actually pull them up. We got, we got, We
retrieved the items before they got out the checkout, and

(01:44:56):
that was because of the numbers we had in the store.
But you see some of these security guards that one
in every store like a pack and sayble countdown. I
think it comes down to a lot of companies don't
really risk assess who they really put on the actual

(01:45:18):
site like this stay depending on the risk of the
pack and save itself. And some of them have no
awareness training. Some of them have no training at all,
just think it's the stand Well that's practically what they do.
They stand there and they're always on their phone or
they're not aware of when a situation is going to happen.

(01:45:41):
So that's why security is so underbated in its pay grade.
And well they've got no powers, and I reckon that
security guards should have powers in some form. The crime
is getting bad, and just for others sake, we are

(01:46:04):
behind other countries. Security overseas is probably more equipped and
maybe got more training standards, and you know, maybe the
house and safety aspect there is more in place prepared
for that. But whether it's not be yet be a
ten to twenty years away before that may happen.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
Maybe it's why the supermarkets when you want to do
this shopping online. Maybe that's the future, is there be
no supermacs, We'll just get all delivered in the van.
It could be what people want, because when I go
to sup market, not there's no and then they're just
filling out orders. And people say, well, there's no work
itself checkout, But all those people that used to be
at the checkouts are filling orders and seem to be

(01:46:48):
quite busy, busy, busy. I've never heard anyone called a
noodle before. I've heard someone called a noodle neck, but
not a noodle. I don't know that was a term. Yeah, noodle,
they're noodles. We're talking anyone wanted to do a citizens
arrest in the trouble doing a citizen to rest right

(01:47:11):
is more often than not, you get it wrong. I mean,
there's a lot of people out there that think they've
got the wrong that have got the wrong end of
the stick. So yeah, I don't think. I don't think
it's going to happen. If it did happen, I don't
think it would go well. But we are talking about that, Marcus.
When I was a checkout chick at Peck and save

(01:47:32):
more house. There was a safe word over the speaker
for all male staff to come running to help the
security guard. That was twenty years ago, so it isn't
an you issue. What guess what the safe word was? People,
they haven't told me. I think she hasn't told me
because he's just check out chick. So that's what we

(01:47:57):
are on about tonight. When there are would you carry
a bit of rope because they said you can tie
them up? I mean, I'm sure some people will be
right into this. There's a lot of people that are
frustrated that want to be in law enforcement. By the way,

(01:48:18):
the police don't think it's good. I think it's a
terrible idea. So your comments on this and roundabouts were
back on those, there's one hundred and ninety and totong.
If you ask me the guests, I'd say there would
have been twelve one hundred and nineties. A lot one

(01:48:39):
of the meors moved the yets. He bought a house
yet come on. And also the stupid fountain in Hamilton
in Garden Place because people now are bathing in fountains, Well,
that's not a good idea, is that? With this hot summer.

(01:49:01):
I kind of reckon fountains are a bit of a yeah,
particularly they do those ones like in Hamilton and at
britam Art where there's just kind of holes in the
pavement and they shoot water up, just makes a puddle
and blows around terrible things. It's not RESTful at all.
Just makes it look like a Yeah, I'm not into it.

(01:49:24):
I don't mind saying that, not into it at all.
So there we go. That's what we're about to get
hearing from you. I'm not saying bean the fountains, but
what are they about. I don't mind a bout of
public art, but fountains aren't art. They I think kind
of people design them and then they're badly execute They
never kind of work properly. That's my angle on that.

(01:49:48):
When I'm staying with it. Yeah, we'll start with you,
Tim Timmots Marcus welcome, Hi Tim.

Speaker 14 (01:49:53):
Here you go, Bud, good time. I work security at
a major retail store in New Zealand. I don't want
to say where.

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
No, don't don't protect your anonymity.

Speaker 14 (01:50:06):
And this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
It's only a matter of time before there's a serious
incident in a store where a customer will accuse someone
else and you know, it's like nowadays, the person accused
will we'll push back and there'll be a fight. You

(01:50:27):
guarantee it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
Someone will get don't tell me the scenario again.

Speaker 14 (01:50:33):
Yeah, I'll guarantee you that someone will accuse someone of
stealing something and that person getting accused will push back
and there'll be a serious fight in the store. And
then then there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
So the security guard will lay a hand on some
and say hey, I think you've pocketed some raisers, and
then he'll take a hip at them and then it'll
be all on.

Speaker 14 (01:50:56):
I work security and I'm not allowed to touch the person.

Speaker 5 (01:50:59):
So there you go.

Speaker 11 (01:50:59):
So what is that?

Speaker 5 (01:51:00):
What? What? What?

Speaker 14 (01:51:01):
What does that tell you?

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
Yeah, it's a really good thing.

Speaker 14 (01:51:06):
Yeah, I'm not even allowed to follow them out the store.
I can report it to management and they have a
look on camera and that, and then if it's serious enough,
the police get called. But this is just an accident waiting.
This is just a serious accident waiting to happen.

Speaker 2 (01:51:25):
Well, they say that person that was killed had pursued
the person and that's kind of where that all went bad. Well,
this was the shot, This was the shop, this was
the shop owner, a worker, an autan I think, pursued
someone and then it turned out they got stabbed or something,
and that was from I don't know if it's trying
to do a citizen's arrest, but it was tragic.

Speaker 5 (01:51:45):
Well I'm not allowed to.

Speaker 14 (01:51:46):
Follow the person out of the store.

Speaker 12 (01:51:48):
So and.

Speaker 14 (01:51:51):
Why would you why would you want to put your
life on thing for say a twenty dollars product?

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
Do you think that you work as a deterrent?

Speaker 14 (01:52:01):
Sorry? Sorry, bub what you say?

Speaker 2 (01:52:03):
Do you reckon that the value for you? B there
is a deterrent?

Speaker 14 (01:52:10):
Well, I like my job and then the place I
work for a look after me.

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
So yeah, but what's the point of view being there?
Is it to stop people stealing because they see someone there?

Speaker 18 (01:52:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:52:23):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 3 (01:52:24):
Yeah, Okay, it must.

Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
Work if they're doing it, if they're paying you for it,
must work.

Speaker 4 (01:52:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:52:29):
Well I get paid reason money, so I'm not. I mean,
I disagree with some of the people talking about ship wages,
but I get paid reason money. So you know, I
like the place I work for.

Speaker 2 (01:52:39):
So yeah, do you see a lot of theft?

Speaker 14 (01:52:42):
Oh yeah, plenty, plenty, like ten a day or that
much or no. I've heard people walk out of the
store with trolleys. Yes, but but then then you know,
if you if you want to steal a trolley full
of stuff for one hundred dollars, well good luck to you.

Speaker 5 (01:52:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
Do you see the same people coming back?

Speaker 14 (01:53:04):
No, I won't get caught. They don't come back.

Speaker 11 (01:53:06):
Okay, cheers mate.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
Nice, Yeah, thanks, I appreciate that. That's not the truth
coming out there. Evening, Mark Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 27 (01:53:16):
Today, Marcus.

Speaker 5 (01:53:17):
H it's Mark again. You know I'm the righteous one.
I just look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:24):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (01:53:24):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:53:25):
I don't know what. I don't know what you mean, Mark,
I don't. I don't recognize you as been righteous or anything.

Speaker 5 (01:53:30):
But yeah, okay, well well I'm trying. Well, what I
would say is, when I was a young fella, my
father was in the military and we lived in Singapore
for two years and on the plane over we were
given them instructions if we stretched the car, drop rubbish

(01:53:53):
blah blah, we would be punished. And New Zealand has
loosed its way because we do not punish bad people.
They get away with it and we can get to
them and we don't have to do this. We can
turn it around.

Speaker 19 (01:54:12):
Your thoughts.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
None, really are you saying this? As far as the
citizens arrest?

Speaker 5 (01:54:21):
Oh totally. You know, why do we have to even
have that?

Speaker 2 (01:54:26):
Because because because the government, the government promised us five
hundred and more policemen and at the moment more policemen
have left. So that's probably what it's about. We haven't
got enough police. I bet they probably had enough police
in Singapore, so that's one of the big problems.

Speaker 5 (01:54:43):
No, they didn't need police because what they're doing is
Singapore Singapore.

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
Singapore has got police though, haven't they?

Speaker 5 (01:54:52):
Oh, no doubt they would.

Speaker 2 (01:54:54):
Okay, So with the citizens arrest, right, you think it's
going to work.

Speaker 5 (01:55:03):
I don't think we need to even go there.

Speaker 2 (01:55:06):
So you think it's a bad idea.

Speaker 5 (01:55:09):
No, I think we shouldn't even be there. We should
be saying, well, self responsibility. If you you can go
and steal something, well I'm going to cut the finger off.

Speaker 2 (01:55:23):
How many people, with all respect Mark, you're not really
making any sense, who would cut their finger off?

Speaker 14 (01:55:31):
Well?

Speaker 5 (01:55:32):
If you if the rules were there, the line is
in the sand, and if you cross.

Speaker 4 (01:55:38):
It, you too.

Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
You're talking. You're talking, not about citizens CITs interest. You're
talking about stuffer penalties right, yes, and you're talking about
chopping fingers off.

Speaker 8 (01:55:51):
Well, if we?

Speaker 2 (01:55:52):
If we, is it what you want to do? It?
Is that what you want to do?

Speaker 13 (01:55:57):
Well?

Speaker 5 (01:55:57):
I think that we've got that far down the track
now that we can't do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:56:04):
How do you mean we've got that far down the
track we can't do anything?

Speaker 5 (01:56:07):
Well? Well, the criminals have this more rights and than
anyone now.

Speaker 2 (01:56:14):
Okay, I guess I'm not hearing anything new from you, Mark,
but I appreciate your story from Singapore and thank you
for coming through sixteen past eleven. I've got the safe
word h This This is from London, esh and London

(01:56:43):
is emailed. Hi Marcus, thanks for the talkback chat. Listen
to you while I work. I wonder whether the peck
and save safe word was noodle price check flip No,

(01:57:04):
I want to chop people's hands off cheaper creamer. That's
when talking about goes really bad, isn't it. The first
they start to talk about Singapore, then they started about
check chopping people's hands off. Brilliant anyway, Marcus, I'm a

(01:57:28):
bloke just like the term check out check.

Speaker 5 (01:57:30):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:57:30):
So this is more house Peck and Save. It was
a name that mister something. I can't remember. It was
twenty years ago. I was a student and drank a lot.
So was it like could mister could mister Peters come
to check out three and they're all in right, it's
the code word. I don't know why I chose mister

(01:57:50):
Peters must be something like that. And then everyone descends
on Aisle three and they tackle the guy. Fancy. It's
going to be exciting at Peck and Save now when
they've got a safe word, although they don't say much.
On the TENOI where I go to Peckens, there is
a security guard there all about security and souper market.

(01:58:15):
Tellow Timbo's Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 24 (01:58:17):
Good evening, mister Lushell you tonight, good, thank you, tim
that's good.

Speaker 5 (01:58:22):
Hey.

Speaker 24 (01:58:23):
This sort of let you know the word, the security
panic word, same as the ESA, yes, and packing and
save as banana banana banana.

Speaker 18 (01:58:34):
Now, I'm not chasing you, straight.

Speaker 24 (01:58:36):
Up, that's what we do, banana banana. Like you know,
you're an actor and you're a DJ man and a
talk pack host, so you know, if you've been filmed,
you go rubarb, rubar, barb and you're in the background
talking because that's all you used to do in the
old day with all McPhail and the boys. But no, yes,
so remember anything happens to you, Marcus, even if you

(01:59:00):
can't talk and the gag. You're right, banana banana banana
on the window.

Speaker 2 (01:59:04):
Brilliant. Appreciate that more than you can agent given. Hello Marcus, Welcome,
Hi Devin.

Speaker 5 (01:59:09):
Yeah, Hi Marcus.

Speaker 21 (01:59:11):
I've just had a couple of things to a little
story from a while back. My wife and I we
can't take a historic home, and it's the two story building.
And one night I was hearing sort of banging in
one of the sort of museum windows which is part

(01:59:32):
of the historic home. And I went out there and
I saw through the window the sixteen fifteen, sixteen year
old four east. It would have been about three or
four or five of them, smashing up the banisters.

Speaker 19 (01:59:46):
And so I.

Speaker 21 (01:59:49):
Performed citizen arrest on these boys. I was a bit crazy,
but I jumped out the window and grabbed a hold
of them as many as I could, and I was
like and some of them scarped, and I'm like, well,
I've got a couple of them.

Speaker 5 (02:00:05):
I'm holding on to them.

Speaker 21 (02:00:05):
What am I gonn do now? And so I called
my wife, who called the police, and I think I
hold them for about about about half an hour and
tell the police of Beauly game. So it was a
bit of at work. It was really it was kind
of good to be able to sort of head them
there for the police, and so they got a bit

(02:00:27):
of the telling off, you know what, I mean, what.

Speaker 2 (02:00:29):
Would they get? What were they trying to do with
the banisters?

Speaker 21 (02:00:31):
They were just smashing them up. I mean that's you know, yeah,
just idiots. So they probably won't do it again. And
the fact that I could hold them, you know, and
they were telling me, you know, like while I was
holding them and sort of tugging on their shirts like
may you're recking up my shirt? And I'm like, I
don't care, you're hooking up there.

Speaker 3 (02:00:53):
It was funny.

Speaker 2 (02:00:54):
But do you think they could slip away? What sort
of grip did you have them with?

Speaker 21 (02:00:58):
I had one of them around the head and the
other one sort of holding onto his shirt. And I
think they were just stunned, you know, like if they
all detect me, I mean, I wouldn't have underdo it.
But I think they were just stunned, you know, they were.
They were a bit younger, you know, fifteen sixteen.

Speaker 2 (02:01:13):
And did the police say, did the right thing? Were
they impressed or what of the because you never quite
what you're supposed to do.

Speaker 21 (02:01:19):
They they didn't tell me off. They just I hold
them up there because there was a there was like
a stair, you know, a fire exit. They'd come up,
you see, so they couldn't really get down easily.

Speaker 5 (02:01:32):
And I let them go.

Speaker 21 (02:01:33):
But I let them down when the police come. They
couldn't go anywhere else, and the police sort of took
them away. One of them was sixteen, I think, and
he he might have got I don't know. I just
said to the little report and that was the.

Speaker 18 (02:01:45):
End of it.

Speaker 2 (02:01:47):
I think it's it's a moronic crime.

Speaker 4 (02:01:52):
Yeah, banisters, Yeah, I know.

Speaker 21 (02:01:56):
It's just one of those things boys feel for, you
know that people do it. But I think what I'm
trying to say is that being able to be free
to just where it's safe, hold on to people, you know,
it's a good thing. And the other thing is that
it's pretty sad when one of your listeners was a

(02:02:17):
security guard and he's not allowed to touch anybody. He's
not allowed to even go near them or whatever. I mean,
what the hell, you know, what, what do we pay
them for? You Like, my boy worked at at a
New World and one was the guy stealing something. So

(02:02:38):
my boy he yelled out and started kind of yelling
up to the security guy and the security card. He
ran out the building and and the security the security
guy ran after him, and my boy ran after them.
And it's really funny because we were my wife and
I were filling up fuel just down the road, and

(02:03:00):
all of a sudden, we see my boy running down
the road with the security guards.

Speaker 5 (02:03:05):
What the hell don't know? But you know, I think where.

Speaker 21 (02:03:10):
It's safe, there is an element they never caught them,
but where it's safe, there is an element of you know,
knowing that you can't you're not to get locked up
yourself for catching someone or holding them down.

Speaker 5 (02:03:22):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:03:25):
Yeah, I think it's yeah, well, I mean, it all
depends on how you restrain them. And if you're in
a choke hold and they killed some and stuff like,
they could go bad. So I reckon there's probably a
lot of tricks, you know, because people that yeah, I mean,
not if it's going to get it right, are they no?

Speaker 21 (02:03:42):
Yeah, it's a judgment call, and I agree you've got
to have the judgment. But it's just it just allows,
it allows Like how many times do we hear of
someone protecting themselves or protecting their property and then getting
and because they injured the criminal, they get prosecuted, prosecuted
or they end up in court, you know those sorts

(02:04:03):
of things.

Speaker 2 (02:04:03):
That Well, there was a situation. There was a situation
the workout where a guy found someone in his house
and he chopped off his fingers and he got off it.
Remember that.

Speaker 21 (02:04:11):
I don't remember that one.

Speaker 5 (02:04:13):
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 2 (02:04:15):
Yeah, well, well, I mean, I mean one of the
foundations of justice is that it's not individual's jobs to
meet out justice. That's the court's jobs. The police is
to apprehend people, to bring people before the court. You
can't have vigilante justice because that never goes well, Jamie Marcus, welcome,

(02:04:36):
Hi Jamie.

Speaker 6 (02:04:37):
Hey have a going Mica, good, thank you.

Speaker 16 (02:04:41):
Yeah, I was bringing a bit like now, but before
the news you had in your call of saying Australia
is a lot harder on crime than you know, which
is a state by state system. So to say that
it's pretty sounds pretty crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:04:55):
Really I thought so, And that's where you've got to
challenge people. They just say things like that because yes,
it is a state system.

Speaker 16 (02:05:04):
You're right, and I'm going to make that filed to Queensland.
But he got done for something in New South Wales
and he gets across the border every twice a week
to go and chicken.

Speaker 2 (02:05:16):
You know, like, yeah, it's your boy racer.

Speaker 16 (02:05:20):
Uh, he got done an extremely large or contraband. Yeah,
he was to get bail.

Speaker 2 (02:05:30):
Actually, is it when you say, when you say contraband?
Can is it like jicks a head? Can you run
stuff from state to state?

Speaker 18 (02:05:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (02:05:39):
Yeah, happened.

Speaker 12 (02:05:42):
Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (02:05:44):
It's not an illegal product.

Speaker 16 (02:05:48):
Yeah, highly illegal, understand.

Speaker 2 (02:05:50):
I just I just wanted. I just wanted with different
state laws you can actually run people. One thing's across
state lines.

Speaker 16 (02:05:58):
Well, in Queensland they have glb lasts, where in New
South Wales they're highly illegal. What do they call gel
blasts like little paint guns. They shoot little gel bullets.

Speaker 2 (02:06:11):
Yeah, you'd into those.

Speaker 16 (02:06:15):
No, No, I don't like and eat guns. Actually yeah
they're not my things. Now too violent for me?

Speaker 5 (02:06:21):
Here go.

Speaker 16 (02:06:23):
Yeah yeah, so but yeah, if you get pulled over
and you stat my over. You got to Court Rhythm
Queens there. You can buy them the shop.

Speaker 21 (02:06:29):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:06:30):
Is it like a paintball gun?

Speaker 16 (02:06:33):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much. They just shoot these little yeah,
like you put these gel things and water and then
they expand and you put them in like a paintball
gun and you shout them.

Speaker 4 (02:06:44):
That's a big sport really yeah. Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 16 (02:06:51):
Paintballing, and that's swilling.

Speaker 2 (02:06:52):
Not my thing, no mine.

Speaker 16 (02:06:55):
And some yeah every Christmas party, not everyone, but you know,
you go paintballing and I'd.

Speaker 2 (02:07:02):
Rather get drunk, you know, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 26 (02:07:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (02:07:07):
I just thought it was strange that he that's good
Australia's going to hear his youth problem quite real bad.
And it's different to you, Neely know from listening listening
to you, like instead of the ram raide they just
roll through your house at two in the morning when
you're sleeping and take your expensive car and whatever. You know,

(02:07:29):
it's more I guess, it's more upfront and more frightening.

Speaker 18 (02:07:32):
In a way.

Speaker 2 (02:07:33):
Nice to hear from you, Jamie, Thank you for that.

Speaker 30 (02:07:35):
Tricia Marcus, welcome, hello Marcus seven manufact Ages. But I've
been listening, so just a small story my daughter went
shopping one day in the mall in Hamilton and.

Speaker 12 (02:07:51):
It Spark.

Speaker 30 (02:07:53):
She was in Spark getting a new phone, and there
were two women in there and apparently they loaded up
what they wanted and walked out of the shop with
all this stuff and up keepers said, well, we can't
actually do anything. So this daughter of mine is very
very tall, not a big girl, but she's very tall.

(02:08:17):
And another lady who had witnessed it as well, followed
these two ladies, which was I said to her, don't
ever do that again, out to their car and said,
now we'll have all that stuff back, thank you. And

(02:08:37):
these two women gave it back and I think they
were so shocked to think that anyone would do that.
And the other lady, I think she was the same,
I don't.

Speaker 13 (02:08:51):
Think what's the word.

Speaker 30 (02:08:53):
Yeah, anyway, same as them, And so they weren't going
to fight her. And so this daughter of mine and
now the lady bought all the stuff. They were armed
was you know, they are an armful each, and bought
the spark and said here here's your stuff back. I said,
that's very very risky. You can't do that, you know,

(02:09:14):
that could have ended up very bad, and it's.

Speaker 2 (02:09:17):
Appreciating the stuff bag.

Speaker 30 (02:09:20):
Absolutely, yes, I think they were. They were probably flawed.
They got it back because yeah, they weren't expecting that.
And then my daughter got her phone and I said,
did they give you some freg minute? She said no,
but they were very very happy. I was only joking,
but yeah, so it's happening all the time. But one

(02:09:42):
funny little thing before I finish. I listened to you
on a tiny little transistor radio, which my batteries go
flat quite often, and so I've had to steal all
the batteries out of the remote.

Speaker 13 (02:09:56):
And I've got to have.

Speaker 30 (02:09:58):
I knew you'd laugh at that and then whip and
then not forget to buy my own batteries. And then
if I do it, my husband goes to work very early,
so he doesn't see that I've done because he'd go
to watch TV and no batteries. Funny, but I've got
to get them back in early on a Sunday because

(02:10:20):
he gets up early on a Sunday.

Speaker 2 (02:10:23):
Nice story, Trician, I think it's pretty funny. Wow, you
need to buy some batteries.

Speaker 1 (02:10:27):
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